Watching parts of the Boston Marathon today I was reminded of this phenomenon I’ve always noticed. I live in New England and even in the winter, runners will run at night in the street as massive snow banks are piled high and visibility is so low. They don’t give two fucks about your safety. There’s also that whole ‘look’ they tend to keep. The sports watches worn high on the wrist, the wardrobe of nothing but Saucony and Nike logos, the air of pretentiousness as if they’re all elite athletes. I can’t be the only one who notices this among the majority or runners, can I?
Why are so many runner and joggers so smug and douchey?
|by Anonymous||reply 156||October 15, 2021 3:24 AM|
How do joggers affect your safety?
|by Anonymous||reply 1||October 11, 2021 10:24 PM|
OP types fat
|by Anonymous||reply 2||October 11, 2021 10:25 PM|
OP, to hell with them. I just want the Red Sox to win tonight.
|by Anonymous||reply 3||October 11, 2021 10:28 PM|
I used to jog in 30 F weather...in just sweatshirt and sweatpants
|by Anonymous||reply 4||October 11, 2021 10:41 PM|
OP, I’m a longtime runner and your criticism is definitely valid. I’d like to think I’m on the nicer end of the douchey runner spectrum, but there is definitely a toxic element within the hobby (note: running is not a job or a lifestyle unless you’re a Kenyan or an Olympian). I do get a smug sense of superiority from being in better shape than most people…and I’m similar to a lot of other runners in that I assume I’m agile enough to avoid getting hit by cars, so I tend to take whatever risks are necessary to maintain my pace. I’m also similar to a lot of runners on that I can be fat phobic and unsympathetic toward those I view as lazy in terms of fitness.
One of my best friends is a textbook runner who occasionally invites me to join him on runs with douchebros from a running group he belongs to. One thing I’ve noticed is that he and the guys in his running group aren’t what you call well-rounded. My friend is in a bad marriage and his job situation has been precarious the 2 decades I’ve known him. But he’s a great runner, and running is the one area or his life where he doesn’t have try too hard in order to excel. I’m an okay runner and don’t have the commitment needed to get much better…therefore, I do things like read books and stay on top of the news. I can’t join in on the conversations about which marathons I’m doing this month or my VO2 max, but at least I can discuss current events.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||October 11, 2021 10:42 PM|
The bikers are the worst. The ones on the ten speeds. With the Lycra shorts and perpetual scowl. They want you to put your tire 1|32 of an inch into the bike lane so they can pound on their handlebars and scream at you.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||October 11, 2021 10:44 PM|
Why do they have to run 1 inch past you when there is a entire sidewalk? It is very disconcerting. Joggers and cyclists are the smuggiest and douchiest people on earth!
|by Anonymous||reply 7||October 11, 2021 10:45 PM|
R5, I wish you lived near me. I’d totally be your running buddy. Or, maybe your bicycling-behind-you buddy. ;-)
|by Anonymous||reply 8||October 11, 2021 10:50 PM|
R7, often it’s a matter of principle. The sidewalk is supposed to be shared, but often walkers…especially when there are 2 or more…think they can show a complete lack of regard for anyone who might want to pass. As a result, I often find myself playing a game of chicken with other people on the sidewalk. Sometimes I’ll buzz past them, but often if there’s not traffic I’ll hop off the curb. It just depends on my mood.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||October 11, 2021 10:51 PM|
Runners age terribly.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||October 11, 2021 10:53 PM|
No it isn't often a matter of principle, R9. It happens to me several times a week when it is just me and the jogger on a 6 feet wide sidewalk and I am on the right. Joggers are arrogant douche bags.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||October 11, 2021 11:51 PM|
I've never met a runner who didn't have some huge self-esteem issue. I've had 2 major relationships with runners and had some lovely, but fucked up friends who ran. They don't feel good enough, they feel less then and that's their motivation for running... and judging. Judging makes them feel better. I guess maybe they really are running from something.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||October 12, 2021 12:19 AM|
They DO get too close when passing on the sidewalk. Fuck them. It’s creepy and brands them as needy frustrated twats.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||October 12, 2021 12:26 AM|
Runners don’t seem to get that they are moving at a much faster pace than walkers and have different goals in using the sidewalk (speed and efficiency). If you’re walking down the sidewalk, you aren’t necessarily trying to get somewhere quickly, you might be old or in bad shape or just thinking about the errands you’re about to do. Runners coming up on walkers (especially from behind) is often startling and the walker doesn’t always have time to notice and move away. A sidewalk is not a track, and while runners certainly have the same right to the sidewalk as walkers, they don’t have a right to a sidewalk free of other people so they can maintain a certain pace.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||October 12, 2021 12:30 AM|
Idk who is more detestable: cyclists or joggers.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||October 12, 2021 12:32 AM|
Swimmers > runners
|by Anonymous||reply 16||October 12, 2021 12:33 AM|
So are cyclists, spinners, gym fiends
|by Anonymous||reply 17||October 12, 2021 12:47 AM|
This could all be solved if so much of public space wasn’t given over to cars. It’s crazy how much space is allowed to (mostly private) vehicular traffic, not to mention the noise and air pollution.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||October 12, 2021 2:09 AM|
R18, I am often in a park that allows no cars, the roads are used by joggers, cyclists and walkers. The cyclists who think they are in the Tour de France really make it a dangerous and unpleasant experience. They think the road is theirs. They go at top speeds and ignore traffic lights. People have been injured by them.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||October 12, 2021 2:43 AM|
What is the rule if you are waking? Do you stay to the left or right?
|by Anonymous||reply 20||October 12, 2021 2:46 AM|
I agree with OP. All the heavy runners I know are shallow and self-absorbed, which they pass on to their kids. They think that running is some sort of gift, and all the rest of us are less than...well, them. The worst is when a president or CEO of a company is into this shit, and it becomes the culture. If you're not a runner, you're not "in." I've seen it happen a lot. Ridiculous.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||October 12, 2021 2:47 AM|
Most can’t stop running, because that’s what defines them. While they appear smug, they’re really just addicted. If they don’t run, then they are nobody. My boss runs daily. He ended up with bi-lateral stress fractures in his feet. After they healed, he still runs 7 miles a day. He’s 47 and said will likely need knee replacements by 50.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||October 12, 2021 2:52 AM|
R9 in my area the walkers are fine. It is the cyclists who whiz by on the sidewalk or paved path and sometimes don't announce their approach. One wrong move and either the dog or I could be terminally injured.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||October 12, 2021 2:56 AM|
I should start jogging, I'm not fat, but have a small belly. I don't think there is other way to rid of it.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||October 12, 2021 3:02 AM|
Liz Lemon made fun of joggers on 30 Rock. "Duh, I'm gonna run around in a circle so I can live longer!"
|by Anonymous||reply 25||October 12, 2021 3:04 AM|
R23 that’s a bit dramatic.
R19 cyclists are still much safer than cars for pedestrians.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||October 12, 2021 3:45 AM|
I'd take joggers over cyclists any day. Cyclists are definitely a hazard.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||October 12, 2021 3:56 AM|
They are all endorphin addicts and they act like typical addicts.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||October 12, 2021 4:24 AM|
It’s fun to extend your fist was watch them run into it and knock themselves out.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||October 12, 2021 4:29 AM|
OP jerks to bear porn.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||October 12, 2021 4:29 AM|
"They don’t give two fucks about your safety. "
I'd agree that some are smug and douchey, but how are runners and joggers infringing your safety?
|by Anonymous||reply 31||October 12, 2021 5:04 AM|
[quote] The bikers are the worst. The ones on the ten speeds.
I have no real issues with runners or cyclists. It's the recent proliferation of electric bike riders who irk me. Within the last 18 months there's now a crush of them on the recreational trails I use. Many with the extra fat tires, going 5 to 10 mph faster than anyone else, usually ridden by novice or newbie riders. It's not going to work out well.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||October 12, 2021 8:16 AM|
Oh OP our bodies were made for movement and have not changed much over the span of thousands of years, all though our society has. I don’t run to feel superior to you, or to show off, or to look better, or to be healthier. I run because it feels good. Running in the woods for hours is one of my favorite things to do.
I could show you research about how running has wonderful effects on your brain, how it is better than medication to combat (low-grade) depression, how it improves focus and concentration- but those things are not the reason I run. Breath and movements in harmony, feeling my body is strong and can keep going, thoughts flowing freely, that gives me pleasure.
All these running-gadgets are not for me, they would be disturbing and ruin my joy. I see guys having much fun with these toys though, good for them. I don’t understand the things they talk about and leave them to it.
Some people are just smug and like to show off, regardless of wether they are runners or not.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||October 12, 2021 10:14 AM|
I notice men who jog like to come from behind and very close to women KNOWING they are scaring them as they pass an inch from their bodies. They enjoy seeing the women get that shock of fright. I notice most joggers give men lots more room when they pass them. Who doesn’t like to give women rapey jolts! AMIRIGHT.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||October 12, 2021 12:24 PM|
It’s the cyclists who are a menace . Some of them are really nasty and dangerous. Remember that cyclist that killed a woman in Central Park a few years back. He screamed at her to get out of his way and killed her . They say he was devastated and I believe he didn’t go to jail. Totally agree with what r34. I have a mother and sisters and it’s nasty out there if you are a female.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||October 12, 2021 12:38 PM|
Completely agree with the people asking why runners have to pass within an inch of you when there is an entire trail or sidewalk and I am on the far side of it. In the warmer months there is also the breathing on your shoulder or arm as they pass. Gross.
At the beginning of the pandemic there was a woman jogger in the building across the street who would veer close to people in the crosswalk and huff in their faces. Totally sociopathic, but then I live in the City of Sociopaths.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||October 12, 2021 12:38 PM|
R31, runners and joggers interfere with everyone’s safety when they don’t follow the rules of the road. A driver must swerve to avoid them causing peril to the driver and any person, thing, or animal that is in the now out-of-control path of the motor vehicle.
I’ve been a cyclist who bicycled to work when I had a job within 4 miles of my home, but I agree many cyclists are aggressive, arrogant douchebags.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||October 12, 2021 12:48 PM|
My foot has been run over twice in a crosswalk by cyclists (both women.)
|by Anonymous||reply 38||October 12, 2021 12:53 PM|
I was never athletic, but I ran cross country in high school and the first two years of college (Division III). I was awful but it was nice to be on a team and I finished every race.
One experience I had during a college meet encapsulates douchey runners for me. I, naturally, had fallen behind the pack during the race. I was running past the parking lot and passed one of the coaches from another school. He was OP's stereotypical "runner" and dressed for the part.
As I passed him, he looked at me (I was a few pounds overweight -- MAYBE ten -- but not a fat whore yet) and very dramatically shook his head. The look of contempt on his face was palpable. Was my form off? Was he judging my weight? My speed? Who knows. But I'll never forget his expression of smug superiority.
I was clearly struggling and not as fast as the other runners, but for fuck's sake, I was doing the best I could.
That single experience really turned me off to the world of running.
|by Anonymous||reply 39||October 12, 2021 2:20 PM|
I work with a "runner" who is constanty dressed in runner gear and has all the 5k 10K medals hanging on her cube. I got a new pair of Nikes one day and she looked at them and told me "You really should not buy running shoes if you are not a runner they are designed for runners." I told her I run on the treadmill with them and she laughed. "That is not running." ...now I call her runner police.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||October 12, 2021 2:28 PM|
Do you live in DC, r36?
|by Anonymous||reply 41||October 12, 2021 2:28 PM|
What's the difference between running and jogging?
|by Anonymous||reply 42||October 12, 2021 2:30 PM|
R41, DC-adjacent. I can bike or walk to DC.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||October 12, 2021 2:34 PM|
And don’t forget the spitting - at the height of the pandemic! Maybe if you live in a sparsely traveled rural area that’s ok but not where everyone is going to step in it and track it around.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||October 12, 2021 2:37 PM|
It's a sideWALK, people.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||October 12, 2021 2:48 PM|
It's weird you mention this, I never thought about it, but I've benn acquainted with three runners. one a friend from college and two the husbands of women I know. All three are known as "nice guys" and are not really assholes, but they all have a REALLY sarcastic attitude that drives me crazy. You can just be having a conversation, alone with them or in a group, and they invariably come out with some sarcastic put down that reminds me of junior high school. They usually get their laugh - at others' expense. They're like the type of person you later think "I really have to talk to this guy about this" but you never do because you don't want to start a fight.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||October 12, 2021 3:01 PM|
I don't run, cycle, or drive but I find it bizarre that so many people complain about runners and cyclists when cars kill and way more than any cyclist does, and cars emit so much disgusting pollution too. From a personal safety point of view I'd much rather take my chances with a bike than a car and I massively appreciate that commuters who cycle or run aren't emitting disgusting fumes for me to breathe in.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||October 12, 2021 4:33 PM|
[quote]I don't run, cycle, or drive but I find it bizarre that so many people complain about runners and cyclists when cars kill and way more than any cyclist does, and cars emit so much disgusting pollution too. From a personal safety point of view I'd much rather take my chances with a bike than a car and I massively appreciate that commuters who cycle or run aren't emitting disgusting fumes for me to breathe in.
So you want 70 year olds to start riding bikes and jogging to their medical appointments?
|by Anonymous||reply 48||October 12, 2021 4:41 PM|
I'm driving to visit my aunt today, and take her out to lunch. She lives 40 miles away and you can't get there by bus or train. Maybe I should bicycle, and then we can get to the restaurant by rickshaw.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||October 12, 2021 4:44 PM|
Dickheads R48 / R49 his point clearly is that the fewer people in cars and the more people on bikes the better. Not that it’s one or the other. Are you unable to see things in a realistic way without jumping to extreme conclusions?
FWIW r48 my dad is 67 and cycles to and from places regularly. Wtf is wrong with the 70 year-olds where you’re from?
|by Anonymous||reply 50||October 12, 2021 4:52 PM|
r49 you gave me the first real laugh of the day
|by Anonymous||reply 51||October 12, 2021 5:00 PM|
Thank you OP, I too can’t stand joggers. So self righteous and smug
|by Anonymous||reply 52||October 12, 2021 5:04 PM|
They are like crossfit people. "Do you even crossfit bro?"
|by Anonymous||reply 53||October 12, 2021 5:24 PM|
Cyclists are the worst.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||October 12, 2021 5:25 PM|
Even worse when they’re also vegan.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||October 12, 2021 5:38 PM|
There is a guy I see jogging all the time in my neighborhood. He looks to be in his 50s and is always shirtless with short shorts on. The weird thing is, he only wears socks. No shoes. I wonder is he's autistic or challenged in some way. That has to be hard on the joints and shins, not to mention dangerous!
|by Anonymous||reply 56||October 12, 2021 5:47 PM|
It's a thing, r56
|by Anonymous||reply 57||October 12, 2021 5:49 PM|
I did not know that R57. Running barefoot on the beach I can understand, but on sidewalks and asphalt? That just seems nutty.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||October 12, 2021 5:53 PM|
I was rambling along on the sidewalk reading this thread and almost got barreled over by a man running with a stroller, screaming “BEHIND YOU.”
|by Anonymous||reply 59||October 12, 2021 5:55 PM|
I also find many runners are also OCDers. They HAVE TO run in certain areas everyday ONLY. Some even run in the same places multiple times a day. Bizarre.
|by Anonymous||reply 60||October 12, 2021 5:55 PM|
Runners with children are the worst r59.
|by Anonymous||reply 61||October 12, 2021 5:56 PM|
They can never move over and go around someone slower, the walkers have to move out of their way, because they are ~*runners*~
|by Anonymous||reply 62||October 12, 2021 5:57 PM|
[quote]Dickheads [R48] / [R49] his point clearly is that the fewer people in cars and the more people on bikes the better. Not that it’s one or the other. Are you unable to see things in a realistic way without jumping to extreme conclusions? FWIW [R48] my dad is 67 and cycles to and from places regularly. Wtf is wrong with the 70 year-olds where you’re from?
The smug/douchey gene must have skipped a generation in your case.
|by Anonymous||reply 63||October 12, 2021 5:59 PM|
R59 ya I mean think of it from the other persons perspective. You’re standing there walking 1mph paying no attention to your surroundings with your head in your phone. They’d prob be frustrated with you too.
It’s about sharing the space, you have to pay attention to your surroundings too.
|by Anonymous||reply 64||October 12, 2021 6:01 PM|
I never move for people who at like assholes like "behind you" wtf? The same goes for dog owners who expect you to step aside for their dog. Fuck that!
|by Anonymous||reply 65||October 12, 2021 6:01 PM|
r64, that when the runner needs to slow down and walk passed someone who is walking. He has a stroller FFS! Slowing down as he passes IS the right thing to do. Better yet, he needs to find a places to jog properly.
|by Anonymous||reply 66||October 12, 2021 6:06 PM|
There's a difference between barefoot running and running in your socks (without shoes).
|by Anonymous||reply 67||October 12, 2021 6:08 PM|
Can someone tell me the difference between runners and joggers?
|by Anonymous||reply 68||October 12, 2021 6:08 PM|
I see cyclists running red lights and stop signs all the time. Aren't they supposed to follow the rules of the road? I think that a shot of pepper spray on a couple of those guys that invade a female's space while she is jogging would solve the problem quite efficiently.
|by Anonymous||reply 69||October 12, 2021 6:09 PM|
same basically r68.
|by Anonymous||reply 70||October 12, 2021 6:09 PM|
R69 They also drive through crosswalk, like they are pedestrians. Expecting the cars to stop and let them pass. I don't know about US but in my country, the crosswalks are only for pedestrians. If a person on s bike wants to cross the road, they need to get off and walk beside the bike
|by Anonymous||reply 71||October 12, 2021 6:15 PM|
R48 Yes and in heavy traffic.
|by Anonymous||reply 72||October 12, 2021 6:18 PM|
Cyclists in Washington DC are smug, morally superior assholes - especially the ones endangering their toddlers in the trailers.
I used to run when I lived where there were trails, I won't do it on city streets. Gym treadmills and ergs and a choice between machines and free weights is more my speed now. I suppose I'm more vain than in it for the sport.
|by Anonymous||reply 73||October 12, 2021 6:19 PM|
R40, simply put, your co-worker is a bitch.
FWIW, this thread has forced me to think long and hard about my own behavior as a runner. We really can be bad about gatekeeping and having little to no regard for other pedestrians. I do have to challenge the spitting thing--I regularly spit in bushes when I don't see others around--but there's no justification for spitting on sidewalks or private driveways.
One thing I've noticed about a lot of runners, to include myself, is that our smugness comes from the fact a lot of people either can't run or don't like to.
|by Anonymous||reply 74||October 12, 2021 6:23 PM|
R74 I wouldn’t worry about the spitting.
I still can’t understand why everyone focuses so much on cyclists or runners when we all know that car drivers consistently put people at risk of death. And cause death quite often. I see drivers making left turns at every single light after its already gone read, meaning that they cross the crosswalk when it’s already supposed to be used for pedestrian traffic. They park across sidewalks making people walk on the street, park at corners meaning people can’t even cross sometimes, speed around schools and public buildings, change lanes against cyclists without signaling, turn right at stop signs without checking for cyclists coming along the inside (again not signalling) and I see all of these behaviours most days. FWIW I drive and hate both cycling and running but I can see the wood for the trees.
|by Anonymous||reply 75||October 12, 2021 6:32 PM|
R74 I don’t get the last part. I’m a big swimmer and it makes me feel bad for people who can’t swim, or can’t do the strokes well enough to swim laps. It wasn’t in my control—my parents taught me as a little kid and it works well for my body. It’s nothing really that makes me feel smug, just lucky.
|by Anonymous||reply 76||October 12, 2021 6:34 PM|
You're a cyclist r75. You want YOUR WAY all the time as all cyclists do. Whenever anyone speaks to a cyclists it is ALWAYS about them and their needs and wants no matter what subject you are talking about. Everything is directed back to them and cycling. It's fucking insane!
|by Anonymous||reply 77||October 12, 2021 6:38 PM|
My husband’s sister likes to justify her vile diet of garbage with “I ran five miles this morning”.
|by Anonymous||reply 78||October 12, 2021 6:39 PM|
But you will spit on peoples plants r74? Really?
|by Anonymous||reply 79||October 12, 2021 6:41 PM|
That is ZERO medical facts on why people need to spit. Excuses are always given but fact is there's no reason to behave that way.
|by Anonymous||reply 80||October 12, 2021 6:43 PM|
I’ve never spit outside, but it seems like a plant would be a nice place to spit, as long as you’re not doing it in anyone’s view.
|by Anonymous||reply 81||October 12, 2021 6:43 PM|
A shit ton of runners have eating disorders, r78
|by Anonymous||reply 82||October 12, 2021 6:43 PM|
R80 Medical, shmedical. I don't run any more, but when I did, I always had to spit. Obvisouly you get a lot of slaiva or post nasal drip in your gullet and you have to get rid of it. If people didn't have to do it, they wouldn't be doing it.
|by Anonymous||reply 83||October 12, 2021 6:46 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 84||October 12, 2021 6:46 PM|
If nothing else, living in China taught me that spitting is one of the grossest human behaviors.
|by Anonymous||reply 85||October 12, 2021 6:48 PM|
Then you had other issues going on that you didn't take care of but again there's not medical reason to spit. I'm just saying this because people who do spit always have a bullshit reason why they do it.
|by Anonymous||reply 86||October 12, 2021 6:50 PM|
R77 can’t you read? I said I don’t cycle. It wouldn’t make sense for me to cycle in the city I live in currently - its not well designed for it. But I’ve lived in cities before where cycling was more prevalent and I can see the societal benefits to cycling. Better organized public space, less noise, cleaner air, fewer accidents.
|by Anonymous||reply 87||October 12, 2021 6:51 PM|
Nobody is EVER looking at runners wistfully wishing they could jog. Stop with that fantasy.
|by Anonymous||reply 88||October 12, 2021 6:52 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 89||October 12, 2021 6:53 PM|
[quote]Then you had other issues going on that you didn't take care of but again there's not medical reason to spit. I'm just saying this because people who do spit always have a bullshit reason why they do it.
Why do they need a reason? You're aware there used to be spittoons in barroms, right? People must have needed to spit. Who the fuck knows why. People are always hacking up something. Do you live on the planet earth?
|by Anonymous||reply 90||October 12, 2021 6:55 PM|
[Quote] You're aware there used to be spittoons in barroms, right?
Are you kidding with this bullshit reason? Look up why those were around that then? Not for medical reason but for bad habits.
|by Anonymous||reply 91||October 12, 2021 6:58 PM|
R90, that's because they were chewing tobacco.
|by Anonymous||reply 92||October 12, 2021 6:59 PM|
Spittoons are for people who dip tobacco.
|by Anonymous||reply 93||October 12, 2021 7:00 PM|
I used to jog daily (and to me the difference is, speed - I could jog from anywhere to 5-13 miles but I wasn't that fast) and had to quit around mid 30s due to knee problems. I loved it and miss the endorphin rush, you don't get the same from an elliptical or walking. Runners and joggers aren't smug or douchey unless that is their trait in life. I just wanted to be left alone and given my space and did the same for others.
Those who speed zoom up on you as other joggers/runners are dicks. Cyclists who have a clear bike path and use the running track are dicks. If it's a public sidewalk runners/joggers need to heed the safety of pedestrians. It's that simple. I use to use all of these- specified running paths, combined bike/running/walking, and sidewalks. Know your course and plan accordingly.
|by Anonymous||reply 94||October 12, 2021 7:00 PM|
True story of a co-worker, an older woman. She'd been married to a mover and shaker in New Orleans and he got her into marathon running, mainly because he wanted her bone thin. Total control issue and she also developed an eating disorder. She collapsed running one day, massive heart attack. She just had a bad heart and required a transplant. While in the hospital, hubs left her calling her weak and defective. He also said this to their son when he broke his leg. This guy always captured the epic douchiness of runners to me.
|by Anonymous||reply 95||October 12, 2021 7:02 PM|
R95, He sounds like an epic douche, but doubt running is to blame.
|by Anonymous||reply 96||October 12, 2021 7:05 PM|
R92 It was a joke. Because you're being a twat about it.
"Many runners develop excessive saliva or mucus while jogging. This causes them to spit much more during their training than they normally would. A jogger might feel like spitting more during a workout for any of several reasons. Because a body in motion is under a variety of stresses, more saliva or mucus will be produced and, therefore, will need to be expectorated."
"When running outside in cooler temperatures, your nose must warm and humidify the air you breathe before it reaches your lungs. This action produces mucus in your nose and throat, and the mucus acts as a humidifier to condition the air before it reaches your lungs. The buildup of saliva and mucus will cause you to spit more often."
|by Anonymous||reply 97||October 12, 2021 7:06 PM|
You're projecting cunt @ r97. Thanks for the bullshit opinion piece. What a pretentious douche cunt you are.
|by Anonymous||reply 98||October 12, 2021 7:18 PM|
I hate running (and runners) so it gives me great satisfaction when they hit the wall at age 40 and look ragged, sinewy and gristly. Almost all of them need knee replacements young. I would argue my lifestyle of being skinny fat, eating moderately and going out for strolls now and then produces a better outcome.
|by Anonymous||reply 99||October 12, 2021 7:20 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 100||October 12, 2021 7:23 PM|
[Quote] It was a joke.
No it wasn't, r92/r90. You're just dumb and low informed. You probably voted for Trump twice, cunt.
|by Anonymous||reply 101||October 12, 2021 7:31 PM|
They piss me off so much I'm about to go Deathrace 2000 on their ass
|by Anonymous||reply 102||October 12, 2021 7:41 PM|
R1 They run on crowded sidewalks in NY and never think of stopping so best to get out of the way or risk get knocked over and when they are running behind you unless you have eyes in the back of your head. . . maybe they should run in the park.
|by Anonymous||reply 103||October 12, 2021 7:42 PM|
Peloton pod-people are also massive cunts.
|by Anonymous||reply 104||October 12, 2021 7:50 PM|
R101, those are not the same commenters, following the fucking thread you twat. If you're the idiot who wrote "You're aware there used to be spittoons in barroms, right? People must have needed to spit." (R90) then you - or someone - typed something absolutely stupid and hence received several answers in reply: namely R91, R92, and R93.
Go abort yourself.
|by Anonymous||reply 105||October 12, 2021 7:59 PM|
The hangry runner energy has infected this post !
|by Anonymous||reply 106||October 12, 2021 8:00 PM|
r105, it was for r97/r90, calm down micro meat Mavis!
|by Anonymous||reply 107||October 12, 2021 8:10 PM|
Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe humans are designed to WALK several miles a day not jog and cycle. This is in reference to the poster several posts back ^^
|by Anonymous||reply 108||October 12, 2021 8:38 PM|
Such free-floating spite and anger are not good for your health. You don't have to run or judge the runner. Just be kind whenever you can.
|by Anonymous||reply 109||October 12, 2021 8:53 PM|
Ugh. Peloton has been the "thing" during the pandemic with the grand poohbahs of my company. They always have to slip it into some infernal zoom call - as if the rest of us worker bees didn't need even more demonstration of their abundance of disposable income. These brain trusts also like to crow about their offsite meetings at the Ritz Carlton when they docked our salary in 2020 due to COVID. I'd take any outside asshole runner, cyclist - what have you - over one of these indoor Peloton freaks.
|by Anonymous||reply 110||October 12, 2021 9:01 PM|
Peloton removes all the variety of the gym. Blah.
|by Anonymous||reply 111||October 12, 2021 9:04 PM|
108 I doubt walking sealed the deal for our ancestors out hunting. Better run if you want to catch that meat.
|by Anonymous||reply 112||October 12, 2021 9:15 PM|
My Boomer mother has taken up running in the last several months, and while I support her enthusiasm for fitness and keeping in shape and mobile, tbh she has become rather boring about it all.
Every morning when we have a phone call or text exchange and every time we grab lunch or she comes over for dinner there has to be a long spiel about her times and miles. The detail can be repetitive and excruciating to say the least. Sometimes she chats for a full half hour at a time about it. Maybe you have to be into running to find it meaningful? I am a walker and a dancer by philosophy and by nature, and I’m sticking to it it, sorry.
And like, I try to be supportive and nice about my mom’s passion, and I get she’s proud and excited to be into something vigorous, but after over half a year of her monopolising convos with it I’m really getting tired of it and have grown uninterested. She doesn’t ever ask about my interests or accomplishments (including exercise—I got into home bellydance classes over lockdown), and if on rare occasion I bring them up myself, I get an “oh that’s good darling” in reply and then steered back to talking runs (or her other interests, which are only ever old tv soaps I don’t watch, baking for her shitty neighbors/colleagues, and her tedious bookkeeping job that she’s had my whole life).
Tactful avoidance or deflections haven’t worked to stop this. Is there anything I can say to just curb her enthusiasm in conversation? I love my mom and she’s done a lot for me, so don’t want to dent her confidence, but I really can’t listen to it anymore. I’ve recently got to the point where I’m deleting her texts and cancelling lunch/coffee meets.
|by Anonymous||reply 113||October 12, 2021 9:17 PM|
^^^^ I bet she's thrilled you call her your "boomer mother."
|by Anonymous||reply 114||October 12, 2021 9:19 PM|
 what did you two talk about before she started running?
|by Anonymous||reply 115||October 12, 2021 9:22 PM|
That's called sprinting R112
|by Anonymous||reply 116||October 12, 2021 9:25 PM|
Spitting is stupid. You swallow saliva all day, so do it when you run. There’s nothing beneficial to expelling excess spit or phlegm, just a gross habit some people get into.
|by Anonymous||reply 117||October 12, 2021 9:33 PM|
R112 No, better keep still and stalk that meat. Then you can shoot an arrow at it and lesiurely saunter to its carcass. Same with fishing, the more still, the better.
|by Anonymous||reply 118||October 12, 2021 9:35 PM|
r39 You sound like an early snowflake prototype. One look from a stranger ruined running for you? Get a grip.
|by Anonymous||reply 119||October 12, 2021 9:46 PM|
(116) you had me wondering, always imagined these hunters chasing on for hours. Found this in Discover magazine:
Paleofantasy: Our ancestors’ lives revolved around sprinting barefoot after prey.
Modern mimic: On his blog, Evolutionary Fitness, Paleo lifestyle coach Arthur De Vany emphasizes exercises that he feels emulate “the activities that were essential to the emergence and evolution of the human species.” He goes on to explain: “High intensity, intermittent and brief training mixed with power walking and play is closer than aerobic exercise, high-volume weight training, or sedentism to how our ancestors lived.”
Science weighs in: De Vany and other Paleos are in direct opposition to a growing number of scientists and athletes who believe that running long distances can be healthy, and that humans may have evolved doing just that.
We are surprisingly good distance runners, with numerous skeletal features that allow us to accommodate a marathon-like pace. Some scientists suggest that our skills evolved in the context of persistence hunting — or running down prey by keeping it moving until it dropped from heat exhaustion. “
|by Anonymous||reply 120||October 12, 2021 9:50 PM|
r120 pro tip: you can quote other posters by putting a R in from of their post number R 120 (but no space)
|by Anonymous||reply 121||October 12, 2021 9:55 PM|
[Quote] Spitting is stupid. You swallow saliva all day, so do it when you run. There’s nothing beneficial to expelling excess spit or phlegm, just a gross habit some people get into.
Trashy low IQ trump ass licking dumpster people do it because they believe it's best for the body to expel saliva. If spitting was a necessity then why are gyms not flooded with loogies? These are the same dumpster trash people who believe throwing snot rockets is the healthy thing to do too.
|by Anonymous||reply 122||October 12, 2021 10:11 PM|
Some runners are smug douchey assholes. Some cyclists are smug douchey assholes. Some car drivers are smug douchey assholes.
Its a people thing - some are smug douchey assholes, whatever the hell they happen to be doing at any particular point in time.
|by Anonymous||reply 123||October 12, 2021 10:18 PM|
R121 thank you, Hopi it works
|by Anonymous||reply 124||October 12, 2021 10:30 PM|
Cyclists too. Garbage.
|by Anonymous||reply 125||October 12, 2021 10:32 PM|
Cyclists are worse. Road hazards and they ride around like there's something up their asses
|by Anonymous||reply 126||October 12, 2021 10:45 PM|
[quote]Why are so many runner and joggers so smug and douchey?
Lack of testosterone.
|by Anonymous||reply 127||October 12, 2021 10:50 PM|
R126 look at numbers of people killed by cars v killed by bikes then tell me who the road hazard is.
|by Anonymous||reply 128||October 13, 2021 2:03 AM|
I saw a middle-aged guy running with no shirt. Blech! Too thin, sunken, saggy tits bouncing. Like I said above, it's horrible on your body and ages one terribly.
|by Anonymous||reply 129||October 13, 2021 2:50 PM|
When I used to bicycle from Magnolia to Seward Park, Lake Washington Blvd. was open to cyclists on some w/ends. But due to the layout of houses, it was impossible for a car to take any other route until they reached another street. I always kept to the right. There were always these cunts on their ten speeds riding three abreast in the middle of the road when there was a car behind them. The cyclists didn't move. The pig fuckers. Those cunts are the ones who gave cyclists a bad name. It made me angry. Can you tell?
|by Anonymous||reply 130||October 13, 2021 3:10 PM|
R130 yeah I find that annoying as a cyclist too. Even worse is cyclists that use the road when there is a perfectly good cycle path right next to the road. WTF?
At least with runners that use walking paths they are at least in the right place
|by Anonymous||reply 131||October 14, 2021 12:57 AM|
Can we talk about the fact that swimmers and rowers have better bodies than either one and are not douchey? Nor do they take up the sidewalks and bike paths?
|by Anonymous||reply 132||October 14, 2021 3:18 PM|
R132 sorry are you whinging about cyclists using the bike paths?
|by Anonymous||reply 133||October 14, 2021 3:58 PM|
8 out of 10 runners look like crap and 9 out of 10 cyclist look like fools
|by Anonymous||reply 134||October 14, 2021 4:07 PM|
Why are so men so smug and douchey?
|by Anonymous||reply 135||October 14, 2021 4:09 PM|
My uncle who was a marathoner started having severe joint problems in his 60s/70s and is now in a wheelchair.
|by Anonymous||reply 136||October 14, 2021 4:12 PM|
R133, No. In my city drivers complain about the existence of bike paths because they supposedly take up parking places and I'm tired of everyone sounding douchey on both sides. I'm shallow and I want to look at hot bodies, want to join me?
|by Anonymous||reply 137||October 14, 2021 4:12 PM|
I'd rather find a parking space.
|by Anonymous||reply 138||October 14, 2021 4:18 PM|
Swimmers contain their annoying behavior to the lane and are only violent to each other. (Tap my feet to pass me and then you stop cold two seconds later at the end of your lap?! Why?!)
|by Anonymous||reply 139||October 14, 2021 4:20 PM|
I used to think this about Jim Fixx. Then he died. At 52.
|by Anonymous||reply 140||October 14, 2021 4:43 PM|
R128 there are a couple of things wrong with that argument. #1 is that there are far more cars on the road than cyclists so the "numbers" are going to be higher. A more accurate question would be what are the rates of death for cars vs bikes. #2 is that unlike cars and their drivers, cyclists are not required to have license plates displayed on their bikes nor any kind of license to ride a bike on the streets so cyclists are pretty impossible to trace if they are in fact causing accidents. All of the benefits of using the road with none of the responsibilities. #3 streets/roads are designed for cars, not grown adults on toys, so cyclists riding in the streets will always be a nuisance to those using the streets/roads for it's intended purpose-driving a car.
|by Anonymous||reply 141||October 14, 2021 4:50 PM|
Jogging is like other white upper middle class sports, lacrosse, field hockey, rock climbing, water polo, and horse riding. They usually make it apart their identity as well. These sports and activities help bourgeoise whites decorate their empty life. And it's also another way to signal wealth or status to peers without seeming shallow ie. wearing expensive fashion brands. Instead they buy fancy expensive name brand gear at REI or Dick's
|by Anonymous||reply 142||October 14, 2021 5:03 PM|
Athletes of all sports and all socio-economic levels make it part of their identity. You've heard of Air Jordans, right? You know that not just Michael Jordan wore/wears them, right?
|by Anonymous||reply 143||October 14, 2021 5:48 PM|
Honestly, if you are going to spit, carry a rag with you and spit into it. Oh wait, that’s gross to carry that thing around with you for the duration of run? Think how people feel when they step in your globs on the sidewalk or trail.
|by Anonymous||reply 144||October 14, 2021 5:58 PM|
R141 first of all roads are not designed for cars they are designed for any vehicle use (bikes included).
Secondly, glad you asked re some numbers. See link attached. You can read through yourself but you’ll notice pedestrians killed by cars are zero, and proportionally much less than cars or other motor vehicles, you can check the other year reports it pretty much stays the same. Bikes are safer than cars per journey per accident per any other standard you want to apply. Cars are road hazards, bikes not so much sorry.
|by Anonymous||reply 145||October 14, 2021 6:10 PM|
Who are so many of you responding so smug and douchey?
|by Anonymous||reply 146||October 14, 2021 6:38 PM|
[Quote] responding so smug and douchey
They are joggers and cyclists in this thread being hyper defensive with their insecure selves.
|by Anonymous||reply 147||October 14, 2021 6:50 PM|
[quote] Can we talk about the fact that swimmers and rowers have better bodies than either one and are not douchey?
Don’t forget football/soccer players😍🤤
|by Anonymous||reply 148||October 14, 2021 7:02 PM|
[quote] first of all roads are not designed for cars they are designed for any vehicle use (bikes included).
Hellooooo. What universe are you living in? Roads are designed and built for cars and other motor vehicles first and foremost. They are not designed and built for bicycles.
|by Anonymous||reply 149||October 14, 2021 7:08 PM|
r149, I think the person your talking to is speaking about roads were first build for wagon trains and everything else including bikes which weren't even around then. You are speaking of now which I agree with you.
|by Anonymous||reply 150||October 14, 2021 7:33 PM|
R150 I was speaking historically but also contemporaneously. Roads are not designed solely for car use. They’re designed for vehicles that use rubber tyres, that is the purpose of the surface. Bikes / motorbikes etc are all supposed to be using that space. Hasn’t anyone seen specific bike markings at intersections (at the front) or bike filters on traffic lights? Obviously certain types of roads (motorways / freeways etc.) are for an engine of a certain size (that’s why that is displayed on the signage) but city roads are designed for all vehicle use.
|by Anonymous||reply 151||October 14, 2021 9:13 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 152||October 14, 2021 9:22 PM|
I ride on a recreational bike trail near my house. It's 3.5 miles one way. I cannot tell you how many douchey runners and bicyclists I have to deal with daily. The ones in the marathon clothing are the worst. Biker shorts, some sort of jersey on top. They FLY down this bike trail where families walk with their kids and their dogs, and kids are learning how to ride bikes. I go at a slower pace than the douche bros and I have actually yelled at the Lance Armstrong wannabe's who get right on my ass and then fly past me as if I'm in their way to the finish line. It's a fucking RECREATIONAL trail, not the final lap in your fake race. I hate those guys.
But yes, the joggers are also just as douchey. It's always a large group of men and women , huffing and puffing their way down the trail and they expect other people to pass them instead of moving out of the fucking way. The fucking hairy, disgusting shirtless men with the full long, zz top beards that run past me give me the creeps. If women can't go topless in public, men shouldn't either. It's so gross. And yes, I'm a woman. I always look at the joggers and think, "Well someday your knees and or feet are going to be fucked up from your stupidity of running on pavement." It never looks like fun. They look tortured, most of them.
|by Anonymous||reply 153||October 14, 2021 9:38 PM|
Agree with R142, and being from Europe I'd add skiing to that list. I work at a University and a lot of professors run and like to break into conversation to compare times and terrains. It's another small way to make the club more exclusive. The running/cycling fashion is a thing too- like a silicon valley bro uniform or something. I've known some professors to even document their running on blogs or in "casual" reports that look like a academic papers. Now I always feel pity for people who do these kinds of things. It seems like a way to fill a big hole in their lives.
|by Anonymous||reply 154||October 15, 2021 2:43 AM|
A neighbor was removing mountains of trash this evening on a street that narrows where she was working. Rather than interrupt her work, I stepped in the street to walk around her. A jogger running in my direction decided to also run in the street at that precise moment and would have body checked me if I didn't stop short and throw my hands out. Y'all scum. Cyclists too. Scum.
|by Anonymous||reply 155||October 15, 2021 2:55 AM|
Bikers are the douchiest. The road is for cars, bitch!
|by Anonymous||reply 156||October 15, 2021 3:24 AM|