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BBC Expected To Quit Stonewall’s LGBTQ Diversity Programme

Because of their pro-tranny stance...

Exclusive: The BBC is expected to quit Stonewall’s LGBTQ diversity programme.

LGBTQ staff at the BBC told me they are “super scared” by the implications of the decision, and they hope managers will change their minds…

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by Anonymousreply 134October 17, 2021 9:08 PM

I've been told that Fran Unsworth (the BBC’s director of news), just discussed this on an all-staff call about impartiality.

The BBC is currently making "a documentary debate programme" which will explore "questions" around gender and sexuality.

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by Anonymousreply 1October 10, 2021 8:56 PM

The Beeb reporters are no longer allowed to participate in Pride parades in an effort to stay impartial. The Pride parades have turned into nothing but anti-white, anti-Jew political rallies.

by Anonymousreply 2October 10, 2021 8:57 PM

I bet the LGB employees are happy about this. The <1% of "trans" employees are the ones who don't like that their fascist "charity" is getting called out.

by Anonymousreply 3October 10, 2021 8:58 PM

I actually saw a trans person saying that being anti-trans and being a woman = patriarchy... this person was born with a dick. lol

by Anonymousreply 4October 10, 2021 9:01 PM

Ben Hunte, who wrote the article for Vice, was previously the BBC's LGBTQIANB2S+ special correspondent but left to cover African issues after repeated criticism for his poor journalism.

The issue for Stonewall is that whatever good it did in the past, it is now so discredited that there is no benefit from being a member of its schemes and paying it for legal advice.

It really is a shame because they were really a force for good over gay and lesbian issues, but they have been totally consumed by trans ideology.

by Anonymousreply 5October 10, 2021 9:15 PM

LGBTQ staff at the BBC told me they are “super scared” by the implications of the decision

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by Anonymousreply 6October 10, 2021 9:41 PM

BBC = Elitest Luvvies.

by Anonymousreply 7October 10, 2021 9:59 PM

[quote] Corporate members pay Stonewall, Europe’s largest LGBTQ charity, a fee in order to sign up, and in return, Stonewall helps the organisations create more inclusive working environments for LGBTQ employees, such as giving advice on inclusive toilets and changing room facilities.

What a scam.

by Anonymousreply 8October 10, 2021 10:09 PM

What a s̶c̶a̶m̶.̶ ̶ protection racket.

by Anonymousreply 9October 10, 2021 10:12 PM

Good. The BBC wastes too much money already and they're in the privileged position of getting any household in the UK with a TV to pay them a licence fee (even if they never watch the BBC). Staff are scaremongering when they say they're super scared of the decision - the BBC is very pro-trans already.

by Anonymousreply 10October 11, 2021 5:26 AM

[quote]LGBTQ staff at the BBC told me they are “super scared”

I doubt he talked to any gay employees.

by Anonymousreply 11October 11, 2021 5:47 AM

Impartial Beeb = oxymoron

by Anonymousreply 12October 11, 2021 5:52 AM

Just a reminder for those of us in the US that Stonewall in the UK doesn't mean the same thing it does here in the US. Stonewall in the UK is a particular organization, with some controversial views, not a generic name for our civil rights movement.

by Anonymousreply 13October 11, 2021 6:53 AM

That strange noise you can all hear is the collective sobbing of the BBC's LGBTQIA+ staff in response to this transphobic article which doesn't mention trans and non binary teenagers getting periods., or acknowledge that there are some girls who don't have periods because they have penises.

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by Anonymousreply 14October 11, 2021 7:17 AM

We don't care about what you ladies care about. It doesn't matter how many years you invade our space and try to force us to care, we're not going to care about the same things.

Start your own site. You don't fit in here.

by Anonymousreply 15October 11, 2021 7:23 AM

They no longer want to be associated with a soon to be declared terrorist organization. Understandable. And, of course, when they say they've talked to LGBTQ+ who are super scared, they actually only talked to 6'3" Pauline in Accounting who until six months ago was Paul from Accounting. "She" still has a dick and beard and is married to a woman but now represents the voice of lesbian and gay men for the entire company.

by Anonymousreply 16October 11, 2021 7:40 AM

Poor, bitter old women, you'll still die alone.

by Anonymousreply 17October 11, 2021 8:12 AM

This is a genuine tweet thread from a non binary man in London

[quote](1/6) Okay so I had the most DISGUSTING INVALIDATING experience at heaven nightclub last night- a place where I am meant to feel free and accepted. Queuing to enter the club it splits into 2 lines- MAN and WOMAN- to be checked by seperate people. I am non-binary so OF COURSE I’m

[quote](2/6) gonna queue in the women’s line in sheer protest of where I know they would expect me to queue based on my appearance. I wait to be checked nervously and then one of the security staff rudely gestures me to the other line for men. I then kindly tell them that I am

[quote](3/6) non-binary whilst highlighting the pronouns on my earrings which clearly say ‘They/Them’. They carried on refusing me access, repeatedly saying this side was for ‘women only’. I shamefully walk to the other side. The two distinctly separate box-like detectors for each queue

[quote](4/6) added to the prison-like atmosphere. I felt invalidated and embarrassed. As a place that hangs the pride flag on every wall, invites non-binary performers every week to perform, calls themselves a QUEER VENUE. This is anything BUT a queer venue. What really upset me most

[quote](5/6) was guest @theebillyporter , who is such an inspiration to me, introducing himself and celebrating every gender identity when they were on stage. @JeremyJoseph this type of treatment at your establishment NEEDS TO CHANGE. And until this backwards, dangerous rhetoric is

[quote](6/6) reversed, HEAVEN IS NOT AND WILL NEVER BE a queer venue. I’m appalled.

There you have it - it's dangerous rhetoric to expect males to be patted down by male security guards, and females to be patted down by female security guards.

This is the kind of man who is super scared by the BBC quitting the Stonewall scheme.

by Anonymousreply 18October 11, 2021 8:17 AM

This is the original tweet.


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by Anonymousreply 19October 11, 2021 8:18 AM

LGBTQ = Nobody Gay (including L) and Sane

by Anonymousreply 20October 11, 2021 8:27 AM

If 999 out of a 1000 people would clearly identify you as a dude on sight and the single outlier is blind, you are a fucking man. What is wrong with these people? Everyone is non-binary. We are all on the gender spectrum somewhere between 1 and 100. It is literally meaningless attention seeking crap which is why they have to add the they/them crap to make them feel special and different.

by Anonymousreply 21October 11, 2021 8:28 AM

By making a huge phony fuss about it you give those who are attention-seekers exactly what they want.

Brava, ladies.

by Anonymousreply 22October 11, 2021 8:34 AM

"Non-binary" is the stupidest identity.

It usually just means "I'm a queeny twink" or "laddish dyke" but "non-binary" sounds so cool and modern!

by Anonymousreply 23October 11, 2021 8:36 AM

Non-binary - Guy who sometimes likes to wear eyeliner; girl who's doing her best to opt out of womanhood, with all its challenges.

by Anonymousreply 24October 11, 2021 8:42 AM

Ben Hunte's bf is cute.

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by Anonymousreply 25October 11, 2021 9:30 AM

If you have a dick you are a guy, next?

by Anonymousreply 26October 11, 2021 9:55 AM

I predict within the next decade many of these people I call "whim trannies" will decide their lives have not been any better as the opposite sex and we'll start seeing a wave of what I'll call "reverse trannies". The ones who went whole hog and let some butcher cut off things or add things on will have to live with their fixations for the rest of their lives, happy or not.

by Anonymousreply 27October 11, 2021 10:13 AM

Stonewall is an utterly poisonous, corrupt racket. Because they once had a good reputation for gay issues and became a partner for government, business, universities, the public sector, etc. that were looking to develop pro-gay workplace policies, once same-sex marriage had passed in the UK and the gays apparently had no needs anymore, the trans swept in and captured Stonewall and used it to relentlessly promote their trans/gender ideology.

They were hugely active behind the scenes and under the radar, with their trans workshops (brainwashing programmes). With the Diversity Champions programme and the suchlike , Stonewall convinced government, companies, the NHS, the public sector, etc. they could simply outsource their policy-making and diversity training to them, get a nice little Diversity Champions award and also that way they would attract the active and voluble so-called "LGBTQIA++ community" as voters, customers, etc. In reality, they have made life a hell for gays and, especially, lesbians.

Don't underestimate the pernicious effect of this disgusting cult-like organisation on public life in the UK. They are responsible, through their workshops and guidelines, for this sudden onslaught of crazy gender ideology policy in the UK in recent years, from single-sex toilets and gender ideology promotion in schools, to the introduction of insulting language in the NHS ("people with cervixes", "chest feeders") and men in women's hospital wards, to male rapists in prisons, to the ridiculous contortions the Labour party has got itself into. And people are too scared to speak out against Stonewall because - aside from the wall of silence that has been erected, where anyone who speaks out is viciously cancelled - they are worried that not only will they seem transphobic but homophobic, since Stonewall has exploited the LGB - who it no longer represents in any way - as a vehicle to garner protection for its activities.

As mentioned above, Stonewall is also basically a money-making machine, not only getting millions in taxpayer money and other grants but also making a pretty penny by charging for attendance at its workshops. And attendance at these workshops has almost became mandatory in the public and much of the private sector.

by Anonymousreply 28October 11, 2021 10:36 AM

Using the name Stonewall is cultural appropriation. Give it back.

by Anonymousreply 29October 11, 2021 10:52 AM

* male rapists in women's prisons

by Anonymousreply 30October 11, 2021 10:55 AM

[quote] The Beeb reporters are no longer allowed to participate in Pride parades in an effort to stay impartial. The Pride parades have turned into nothing but anti-white, anti-Jew political rallies

Don’t worry, r2! Public support of Black Lives Matter is also not allowed to be displayed by BBC news employees. “Virtue signalling” - yes, those exact words were used - is banned.

by Anonymousreply 31October 11, 2021 10:58 AM

R31 "Virtue signalling" on social media by Beeb employees is banned. That does not mean that the Beeb itself is banned from "virtue signalling" or promotion of agenda in its reportage.

by Anonymousreply 32October 11, 2021 11:18 AM

R23 But Themi Lovato isn't a "queeny twink" or "laddish dyke"

by Anonymousreply 33October 11, 2021 11:41 AM

Yes, lots of pathetic they/them non-binaries are your very typical straight-looking women and men. In addition to deranged she/they, they/she, he/they, they/he, she/they/he.

by Anonymousreply 34October 11, 2021 11:47 AM

Thanks for background info, R28.

by Anonymousreply 35October 11, 2021 12:15 PM

R18 I swear just a year or so ago non-binary used to mean “I’m a man but not masculine” or “I’m a woman but not feminine” . Which I didn’t think needed a new word but sure, whatever.

But now people think they are *literally* a different gender just because they don’t correspond to some 1950s gender stereotype. It’s insane.

by Anonymousreply 36October 11, 2021 2:23 PM

GLAAD no longer stands for gay and lesbian. No seriously. They dropped that shit for the trans community. Trans people can have their own exclusive organizations catering to their needs but the moment gays and lesbians do it’s bigotry.

by Anonymousreply 37October 11, 2021 5:40 PM

The trans movement and non-binary crap is full of so many contradictions it’s not even funny. These are the same people who also scream about labels yet they label everything.

Society doesn’t care about your life story. They don’t care about your pronouns. You’re not that important nor interesting. The narcissism is through the roof. We’re supposed to run into a place and check with the person over their pronouns before giving them important information. Criminals will be getting away with shit because we’re no longer allowed to say whether the perp was make or female.

by Anonymousreply 38October 11, 2021 5:43 PM

Trans person takes over gay Episcopal group. It immediately collapses.

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by Anonymousreply 39October 11, 2021 5:44 PM

[quote] men in women's hospital wards

You have separate hospital wards?

by Anonymousreply 40October 11, 2021 5:46 PM

Yes, r40. Don't you in the US?

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by Anonymousreply 41October 11, 2021 5:51 PM

[quote] If 999 out of a 1000 people would clearly identify you as a dude on sight and the single outlier is blind, you are a fucking man. What is wrong with these people?

It doesn’t matter what 999 people identify you as. It only matters what you identify as. The 999 people are not in your head so they don’t know what sex you are. Only you can tell them. They shouldn’t assume and make an ass out of you and me,

by Anonymousreply 42October 11, 2021 8:07 PM

R42, one's sex is an objective physical reality, not something that exists only in one's head. That fucking narcissistic idiot wanted to pretend that he doesn't have a specific physical body type for the security check. The entirety of society has to turn itself upside down for these fucking idiots who want to pretend that they aren't what they physically are. It doesn't fucking matter what infantile shitty little ideas he has running around inside his head when it comes to a security check, which is based on physical reality.

by Anonymousreply 43October 11, 2021 8:35 PM

So is being gay a physical reality too? Some people can be gay without even presenting gay, imagine that.

by Anonymousreply 44October 11, 2021 8:40 PM

The tweet at R19 is a perfect example of how such people only care about policing what others say about them. If he were really "non-binary" (though that term has no basis in reality), then what possible difference could it make which person frisked him? He's gotta go in the women's line to make a point, but if there really were nothing to biological sex, then why does he care either way? No, it's just that he wants to stir shit up and get attention. No harm could come from being "miscategorized" as non-non-binary. That's why they have to escalate a hurt feeling into VIOLENCE! LITERAL! BEING ACTIVELY HARMED! etc. Otherwise, their objections would be seen as what they are: trivial complaints from very a picky, touchy, self-obsessed person.

by Anonymousreply 45October 11, 2021 8:50 PM

UK = Terf Island

by Anonymousreply 46October 11, 2021 9:01 PM

"trans women are terrorists and they're trying to invade womens bathrooms to rape young girls"

Totally rational, acceptable feminist discourse, apparently.

by Anonymousreply 47October 11, 2021 9:02 PM

Yes r44, being gay is based on physical reality. Person with a dick (aka man) exclusively attracted only to other people with dicks (aka men) = gay man. Person with a pussy (aka woman) exclusively attracted only to other people with pussies (aka women) = lesbian/gay woman. It's also very obvious without having to see the contents of one's pants whether one is a man or a woman (real men and women, not the fake "trans" kind).

by Anonymousreply 48October 11, 2021 9:17 PM

R47, no one ever said that so stop making shit up. Men should not be in the women's toilets or other women's spaces, though.

by Anonymousreply 49October 11, 2021 9:18 PM

R38 don’t you think that traditional gender norms also are extremely hypocritical and full of crap?

by Anonymousreply 50October 11, 2021 9:18 PM

R46, we've also been terrorised by the trans cult in the UK, especially through the entrenchment of the homophobic, misogynistic trans-captured organisation Stonewall, so I'm proud that we're fighting back and the transloons are calling us Terf Island.

by Anonymousreply 51October 11, 2021 9:20 PM

R50, the trans and the non-binary are the ones reinforcing traditional gender norms. "If you're a man who's effeminate then can't be a real man, you must really be a woman!" "If you're a woman and you like playing football then you can't be a real woman, you must be non-binary!"

You can be a man and behave and dress and act however you want. You can be a woman and behave and dress and act however you want. You don't have to "change" your "gender" (which isn't even possible) and "transition" in order to be how you want to be. Fuck gender norms - don't let them make you reject your body and your real gender/sex.

by Anonymousreply 52October 11, 2021 9:23 PM

Being angry about trans people online is the sole reserve of upper middle class white women and stray crazies like Graham Linehan. Literally no one else gives a shit.

by Anonymousreply 53October 11, 2021 9:24 PM

[quote] Yes [R44], being gay is based on physical reality. Person with a dick (aka man) exclusively attracted only to other people with dicks (aka men) = gay man.

No, gay is a man being attracted to a man. Has nothing to do with dicks. Hell, some gay men don’t even have dicks, doesn’t make them any less of a gay man.

by Anonymousreply 54October 11, 2021 9:25 PM

Haha R52 suuuuuuure yes it’s trans people that reinforce gender roles, not straight people! Straight people never do things like, oh I don’t know, gender reveal parties, dress little girls in princess gowns before they can walk, segregate schooling based on sex, and the million other things that they do that enforce outdated ideas onto kids personalities at formative ages.

by Anonymousreply 55October 11, 2021 9:31 PM

It’s not the BBC being anti-trans it’s because Stonewall is anti-women and anti-gay. Stonewall which used to be a force for good has been overtaken by the wokerati.

by Anonymousreply 56October 11, 2021 10:18 PM

I hear they're replacing it with Pennylane Pooftas and Bulldagger Semenar.

by Anonymousreply 57October 11, 2021 11:25 PM

This was more alphabet people than trans but Goldsmiths was a precursor. They allied with a radical Muslim group that openly castigated gays. Apparently gays, lesbians and bisexuals were basically unsafe there.

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by Anonymousreply 58October 11, 2021 11:26 PM

Ben Hunte has put on some weight but still cute.

Here's another tweet of his - gee I wonder what this really means?

[quote] Exclusive: I’ve been investigating anti-LGBTQ hate crimes across the UK. The number of homophobic hate crime reports has tripled, and the number of transphobic reports has quadrupled over the last 6 years…

Ben needs to check his punctuation.

by Anonymousreply 59October 11, 2021 11:46 PM

R55 Gender revel parties have killed 5 people AT LEAST. The big gripe terfs have is with imaginary trans women who are supposedly cackling in the shadows ready to rape every unsuspecting female while they're shitting in a public toilet. The former is a real threat, the latter is imagined so where is the hoopla over these killer, retrograde gender reveal parties?

by Anonymousreply 60October 11, 2021 11:53 PM

[quote] UK = Terf Island

Thank you, R46. We duly acknowledge your nomination of the UK for the Peace Prize.

Our only concern is how to find enough chairs for the ceremony. We could do a picnic I suppose.

by Anonymousreply 61October 11, 2021 11:54 PM

Being gay is about being attracted to your own sex, r54, so go fuck yourself you homophobic piece of shit.

by Anonymousreply 62October 12, 2021 12:13 AM

You and your tranny friends do all that and more, r55. You dress little boys in princess dresses.

by Anonymousreply 63October 12, 2021 12:16 AM

R63 wow you’re stupid. The whole point was that dressing a girl in a princess dress reinforces gender roles. Obviously doing the same with a boy would not. You’re a fucking dope lol.

by Anonymousreply 64October 12, 2021 12:19 AM

By the way r55, anatomical sex is a real thing. Even kids are biological boys or biological girls. There's nothing wrong in allowing kids to understand their physical reality. What you and your tranny cult want is to make kids think that gender is all just in the head and you're a girl or boy according to behaviour.

Most straight parents try to raise their sons and daughters equally and let them know that they can do what they want and be who they want to be. It's the tranny loons who are telling boys that if they're "effeminate" then they must be girls.

by Anonymousreply 65October 12, 2021 12:21 AM

What gender roles are princess dresses reinforcing r64, considering almost no girls ever grow up to be princesses?

by Anonymousreply 66October 12, 2021 12:22 AM

R65 I believe in anatomical sex sure. I also understand that the way gender has been organized in human society is largely a performance. From women not being allowed to vote, or to own land, or to have abortions, to men finding it difficult to access mental healthcare, or enact violence on their spouses so commonly.

There is no cult. You’ve just been reading the anti trans conservative propaganda and fell for it. Have fun with that.

R66 that comment is too stupid for words.

by Anonymousreply 67October 12, 2021 12:34 AM

Oh fuck off, r67, you patronising cunt and take your transcult "performance" gobbledygook with you.

No, r66 is not too stupid for words. There's nothing wrong with kids - girls or boys - wearing princess dresses for fun, just as there's nothing wrong with those very same kids - girls and boys - also climbing trees and playing football. Kids can do what they like and transcultists trying to claim that a kid is trans because of how they like to dress are disgusting child abusers.

by Anonymousreply 68October 12, 2021 1:01 AM

Well done R68 you misunderstood both me and R66 haha.

by Anonymousreply 69October 12, 2021 1:09 AM

R14, the article is about teen girls. Not all articles have to be about trans. In this case, it was exploring the concerns of this group. How about you recognizing this group and not making it all about someone else?

by Anonymousreply 70October 12, 2021 2:27 AM

R67 You realize that the overwhelming majority of people don’t even have “gender identities,” right?

They call themselves men because they have male bodies or women because they have female bodies. That’s it. The only criterion. Nothing at all to do with personality or regressive stereotypes or pronouns.

by Anonymousreply 71October 12, 2021 2:59 AM

I'm a lesbian. I work with someone now who claims to be non-binary even though she's very clearly a woman. We even look alike a bit. No one would think she is anything but a woman. I actually find it insulting as a woman, especially a gay feminist woman, that she rejects being a woman. I do believe she's also gay, so I'm doubly insulted that this non-binary nonsense has basically erased a gay woman from existence. It's all attention-seeking behavior and is most certainly erasing gay men and lesbians.

Supporting this nonsense would be the same as asking the black community to start embracing light skinned blacks calling themselves white. That would never, ever fucking happen. I can see the "You're fucking black, ou fucking fool!" youtube videos now. What would be the most hilarious is that the only people supporting black people calling themselves white would be the same woke whites who think you can change your sex. Fucking morons.

by Anonymousreply 72October 12, 2021 3:59 AM

R71 I think that’s naive.

by Anonymousreply 73October 12, 2021 4:14 AM

[quote] R71, I think that’s naive.

Not R71 but NO that's not naive. That's reality. That's how normal and mentally healthy people live their lives.

The overwhelming majority of people on earth do not spend their lives overanalyzing who and what they are - they do not live with their noses buried in their belly buttons.

There is a peak awakening coming. I don't even care sometimes if the backlash hurts anyone. Maybe that's what it takes to learn to leave others alone and stop forcing your crazy bullshit on the rest of us.

by Anonymousreply 74October 12, 2021 4:33 AM

R74 but so much of what you call ‘normal’ peoples lives is decided by society for them because of conventional gender roles. Your name for starters, what type of hobbies you were introduced to, what kind of education you got, the type of jobs that were pushed for you. It’s naive to think that conventional gender is just a secondary passive aspect of your sex.

by Anonymousreply 75October 12, 2021 5:39 AM

Society dictates gender roles, behavior and presentation.

Biology dictates gender.

by Anonymousreply 76October 12, 2021 5:44 AM

The Haters have attempted to cancel the OP's contribution to our debate.

by Anonymousreply 77October 12, 2021 5:54 AM

This may come as a shock, but most well-adjusted adults don’t obsess over their gender identities. Believe it or not, it just doesn’t occur to them. They aren’t interested in examining where they fall on the gender spectrum or in compelling others to validate them and affirm their lived experience. They reject replacing natal sex with gender identity in public policy and law.

People who DO fixate on gender identity usually suffer from gender dysphoria (very rare) or cross-dress for purposes of sexual gratification (much more common). More recently, it has become trendy for kids and young adults to present themselves as gender atypical, e.g., nonbinary. It’s funny because they act like they’re the first ones ever to flaunt gender nonconformity or play around with gender roles. Talk about naive!

I suspect you may be somewhere in the last category, R73. Since gender identity seems so important to you, allow me to offer you this. You can use it to help determine whether you are a woman or a man!

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by Anonymousreply 78October 12, 2021 7:03 AM

R76, that's the convoluted bullshit definition.

There are two biological sexes - male and female.

There is an infinite spectrum of gender - masculine to feminine.

It was all very clear until people who either were uncomfortable saying the word 'sex' decided 'gender' didn't make them feel all squicky or the trans purposefully tried to conflate the two terms to fuck with people's minds.

More bullshit at R75. Feminists and true liberals have been fighting for damn near a century (or more) to stop that crap. We've been fighting to have everyone judged on who they are as a person, not a sex. It's the transtapo who have decided that we should go backwards now and define women as wearing dresses and makeup because a group of beta males who weren't very good at fitting their definition of "male" decided to take over "female" instead by putting on dresses and makeup and we're all supposed to just play along because even the creepiest, most insane beta male traipsing around in a dress is given more sway in this world than a centuries work of feminists from across the world. They are a cult. Fuck them all.

by Anonymousreply 79October 12, 2021 7:49 AM

[quote] No, gay is a man being attracted to a man. [bold]Has nothing to do with dicks. Hell, some gay men don't even have dicks[/bold], doesn't make them any less of a gay man

Why are homophobic freaks like r54 all over this Gay (Homosexual, Same-sex attracted, Same chromosomes, Same genitals) website, spreading their most vile homophobic shits?

by Anonymousreply 80October 12, 2021 8:23 AM

[quote] By the way [R55], anatomical sex is a real thing. Even kids are biological boys or biological girls. There's nothing wrong in allowing kids to understand their physical reality.

Um, no, it’s not a real thing. It’s a spectrum and you know that. Kids should understand THAT reality instead of being locked in to being a boy or girl. They should have the freedom to move along that spectrum as they see fit.

by Anonymousreply 81October 12, 2021 8:50 AM

[quote]Um, no, it’s not a real thing. It’s a spectrum and you know that. Kids should understand THAT reality instead of being locked in to being a boy or girl. They should have the freedom to move along that spectrum as they see fit.

How would you teach kids about pregnancy? What words would you use to describe how pregnancy occurs?

by Anonymousreply 82October 12, 2021 9:01 AM

Birthing person, semen impregnator

by Anonymousreply 83October 12, 2021 9:51 AM

Moron at r69. I am r66, you fucking idiot, so, no, I did not misunderstand myself.

by Anonymousreply 84October 12, 2021 10:34 AM

Shut the fuck up you fucking moron at r81. There is no spectrum of anatomical sex, there is male and female. Boys (males) and girls (females) should have the right to dress, behave and just be how they want without being told that their anatomical sex is an impediment or that they are "in the wrong body". There is no such thing as a gender spectrum because there is no binary of behaviour in western society. A girl wearing a t-shirt and jeans is not "moving along that spectrum". She's just a girl in a t-shirt and jeans.

by Anonymousreply 85October 12, 2021 10:40 AM

Ricky Gervais says something totally reasonable, is accused of "defending Nazis":

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by Anonymousreply 86October 12, 2021 1:46 PM

[quote] No, [R66] is not too stupid for words.

Well then why did you talk about yourself in the third person dickhead R84? I repeat, you’re too stupid for words.

by Anonymousreply 87October 12, 2021 4:18 PM

Fuck off shithead r87, it fitted into the context of my reply to your earlier bullshit post. What exactly am I supposed to have disagreed with myself over?

It's fucking hilarious that a tranny apologist objects to how someone refers to themselves while trying to force us all to accept the pronoun bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 88October 12, 2021 4:33 PM

The profanity doesn't make you sound threatening or masculine. Just stupid.

by Anonymousreply 89October 12, 2021 4:55 PM

[quote] Ricky Gervais says something totally reasonable, is accused of "defending Nazis"

Nazi accusations are the cornerstone of progressive debate

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by Anonymousreply 90October 12, 2021 5:45 PM

I don't give a shit what you think, r89.

by Anonymousreply 91October 12, 2021 5:51 PM

We live in a society.

by Anonymousreply 92October 12, 2021 5:53 PM

R78 I can’t believe any sane rational person could look at that chart and conclude that sex can be defined by a color coded spectrum. It truly boggles the mind.

I guess chopping off pony tails is the way to masculinity.

by Anonymousreply 93October 12, 2021 5:57 PM

But what about...the man bun?

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by Anonymousreply 94October 12, 2021 6:01 PM

The bottom line.

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by Anonymousreply 95October 12, 2021 6:34 PM

Allison Bailey had a court hearing today - she's the black lesbian suing Stonewall and her chambers (law firm) after the Head of Trans Inclusion at Stonewall (a 44k a year job) emailed them and tried to get her sacked because of her views on sex and gender.

She's tweeted to say "it went very well" and will provide more details soon.

NB Stonewall's Head Of Trans Inclusion sounds like a right Karen.

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by Anonymousreply 96October 12, 2021 6:45 PM

R95: I've always thought the best part of that scene is the little girl next to him who just immediately laughs, like she doesn't give a fuck.

by Anonymousreply 97October 12, 2021 6:51 PM

From r96's link.

Look at one of Allison's tweets that Stonewall not only claims is supposedly transphobic but that it is "calling for trans people to lose their current legal rights"

[quote]Women & girls have suffered, and continue to suffer, at the hands of predatory & abusive men. It is offensive & unacceptable to suggest, much less litigate, for a system whereby any man can declare himself lawfully to be a woman.

It's absolutely crazy to claim that something like that is "transphobic". It means that, according to Stonewall, women and girls will never have any protection from male predators ever, in any situation - just goes to show how much the transcult absolutely hate women. Even worse, however, is that it's a complete misrepresentation of the law - a common Stonewall habit - and Garden Court should be ashamed of themselves for ever taking such a smear seriously.

The claims about the other tweets supposedly being transphobic, violent, or "misgendering" (Allison was simply pointing out an individual's biological sex, which is a reality) are also off the wall and it's an absolute outrage that Garden Court Chambers ever took these smears seriously and launched an investigation into Allison on the basis of such ridiculous allegations. I remember their garbage claims at the time that they've always stood by trans people, etc., etc. It's almost as though they didn't give a shit about the actual claims, just wanted to virtue signal their pro-trans affiliations - at the expense of a black lesbian who happens to be one of their employees.

by Anonymousreply 98October 12, 2021 8:27 PM

Extreme trans positions are the Q-anon on the left side of the political spectrum.

by Anonymousreply 99October 12, 2021 10:06 PM

The Northern Irish journalist Stephen Nolan has recorded a multi part investigation into Stonewall and their lobbying, specifically of the BBC.

It's available on BBC Sounds.

It's done from a perspective of mostly good faith and scepticism. The interview in Episode 4 with "non binary mayor" Owen Hurcum is one of the most fascinating interviews with a narcissist I've ever heard. He makes absolutely no sense - he refuses to believe in male or female but believes strongly in masculine and feminine.

Stonewall naturally refused to take part so they're defended by Ben Cohen from Pink News who flounders at basic questions.

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by Anonymousreply 100October 14, 2021 7:36 PM

[quote] "non binary mayor" Owen Hurcum

Oh, dearie me.

I suppose the town of Bangor produces nothing more than welfare recipients.

I heard that English homeowners import slate from China rather than using slate from Bangor.

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by Anonymousreply 101October 14, 2021 9:27 PM

The idea that everyone should stop and give a shit about what pronouns you use, how YOU see yourself this week is beyond narcissistic.

This gender isn’t the same as sex started by a crackpot psychologist who had children act out sex with one another and led to the murder of a so-called trans person who wasn’t trans. No one brings this shit up, where this ridiculous ideology comes from.

by Anonymousreply 102October 15, 2021 2:31 AM

Ben Cohen used to be so hot and so gay baiting, bless his undecided soul. He must be ancient these days.

by Anonymousreply 103October 15, 2021 9:24 AM

[quote] Ben Cohen used to be—

— a "gay-for-pay" prick-teaser who was kept on a tight leash by his shrew of a wife while he made money off the gays.

A prick-teaser who never showed his.

by Anonymousreply 104October 15, 2021 9:30 AM

Surprisingly he's only 43. But I get your point. A tease.

by Anonymousreply 105October 15, 2021 9:31 AM

^ And we're supposed to be grateful that big Ben is teasing us.

Like a monarch giving table scraps to the dog.

by Anonymousreply 106October 15, 2021 10:57 AM

There are 2 Ben Cohens.

One is an very attractive rugby player:

One is an unattractive mini gay who runs the misogynistic news site Pink News and is looking for a surrogate to give he and his husband a child.

by Anonymousreply 107October 15, 2021 5:39 PM

Sane populace to BBC: Quit that bitch now.

by Anonymousreply 108October 15, 2021 5:40 PM


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by Anonymousreply 109October 15, 2021 10:38 PM

Hiding behind US

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by Anonymousreply 110October 15, 2021 10:39 PM

$$$$ all around

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by Anonymousreply 111October 15, 2021 10:40 PM

The medical community is going to be sued out of existence in 20 years time. Mark my words.

by Anonymousreply 112October 16, 2021 12:12 AM

R109 When I see the headline for that story, I try to imagine what the general hears and sees. All this trans shit is attached to us (gays). We’ll end up dealing with the backlash

by Anonymousreply 113October 16, 2021 12:35 AM

What's even more amazing about that story at r109 is that it's a Labour MP - Tonia Antoniazzi - who's speaking out against the Welsh government's misinterpretation of the Equality Act, as dictated to them by Stonewall. There are still a few decent people left in Labour and they're fighting back. There must be an almighty struggle going on in the party. Still not voting for them, because the official party policy is trans-crazy.

by Anonymousreply 114October 16, 2021 12:59 AM

R113, then speak the fuck up and denounce it now.

by Anonymousreply 115October 16, 2021 1:10 AM

Why are Big Black Cocks scared of Stonewall?

by Anonymousreply 116October 16, 2021 1:25 AM

r115 Indeed. What ordinary people who are not into LGBTQIA+ politics do see the most in the mainstream spaces (media, Pride, corporate trainings, campus, mainstream and local LGBT orgs, etc.) are all these "Gays for T (including any insane TRA demands/stances under the guise of pro-LGBTQ+)" & "Gays against Anti-Trans/Anti-LGBTIQ+".

The public barely see gays speaking up and denouncing en masse because the existing collective number, voices & visibility all are not strong enough to reach widely.

by Anonymousreply 117October 16, 2021 2:33 AM

Also, T can be extremely intimidating, doxx, make death threats and speaking up can cost one their job, R117. So, there's that.

by Anonymousreply 118October 16, 2021 4:02 AM

Plus, R117, the T have also taken all the formerly gay organizations hostage, too. Strangely, it's all the men in dresses variety that have forced their way into leadership positions. Hm, wonder why that is?

by Anonymousreply 119October 16, 2021 5:59 AM

On the other hand, it is only the Welsh.

Can we still make Welsh jokes?

by Anonymousreply 120October 16, 2021 7:39 AM

Episode 7 is so cringe - Ben Cohen talking about him being an employer and needing to provide toilet facilities for non binary staff members so they can have dignity. As he was asked questions could could hear his brain cranking gears as it started to contemplate whether women should be afforded the same dignity.

I almost feel sorry for Cohen. He is so out of his depth trying to explain the policies of an organisation he isn't part of or responsible for, but he ploughs on making a tit of himself.

by Anonymousreply 121October 16, 2021 7:47 AM

R121, Ben Cohen is 100% responsible for pushing the trans agenda. I don't feel sorry for him at all, this is probably the first time he's ever been put on the spot to explain his stupid beliefs, which is astounding considering what a huge platform he has for his positions. One of the main problems, which has allowed the trans cult to flourish, is the lack of accountability. Stonewall are never required to publish their accounts or detail their activities. People like Ben Cohen can run a website that relentlessly promotes their positions and never be questioned about those positions. University activists can get away with whatever they want because "transphobia".

(Note: this is not Ben Cohen the rugby player, it's a different, and very stupid, Ben Cohen.)

by Anonymousreply 122October 16, 2021 10:49 AM

Look at these lovely ladies protesting outside and attempting to disrupt a conference where Afghan women are discussing human rights violations."

"Suck my dick you tranphobic CUNTS" just emanates a feminine sensibility and solidarity with other females, no? Esp those oppressed by the Taliban. Hard not to see the similarities.

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by Anonymousreply 123October 16, 2021 8:08 PM

This is the conference. Stonewall has really done a number on the UK.

Things are not much better in Canada and worse than is generally acknowledged in US.

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by Anonymousreply 124October 16, 2021 8:10 PM

In the US the protestors would have brought pink bats wrapped in barbed wire.

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by Anonymousreply 125October 16, 2021 8:11 PM

The voices of men need to be raised against these violent incels in lip gloss. Their intent is to hide behind the gay rights movement, our best chance of avoiding the backlash is to speak up. Human decency also requires it.

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by Anonymousreply 126October 16, 2021 8:15 PM

The T are overwhelmingly autistic, which makes them even more dangerous when you pump them full of hormones. They can't read the room and they have no boundaries.

by Anonymousreply 127October 16, 2021 8:15 PM

Where's the Cohen interview?

by Anonymousreply 128October 16, 2021 8:15 PM

Ben Cohen is interviewed throughout this series of podcasts.

He gets so defensive. At one point he is asked why Pink News described a journalist covering the Tavistock scandal as a cis white woman and he said he had no recollection of the story and anyway, DO YOU KNOW HOW OFTEN HE IS REFERRED TO AS JEWISH?

I'm still laughing at him using the term "expectant mother" to defend the Scottish Government removing the word mother from their maternity policies.

And green haired mayor Owen Hurcum using the term "biological boy" to argue that sex is a spectrum. Maybe he was experiencing a rush of gender euphoria from wearing a chiffon blouse and it distracted him.

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by Anonymousreply 129October 16, 2021 8:24 PM

Troon demonstrators at the pathetic demo against the FiLiA feminist conference in Portsmouth today.

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by Anonymousreply 130October 17, 2021 12:51 AM

Cult group chant: "Terfism is fascism!!!"

It's amazing how small, ridiculous and pathetic they look when they have to organise their own demos and not rely on the LGB to do it for them.

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by Anonymousreply 131October 17, 2021 12:56 AM

It is sad and baffling to me that Amnesty is so involved re: this.

It is easy to mock and dismiss them but the threat they pose to women and girls and to gay rights is all too real.

Tragic how so much time and energy trying to combat this could have been spent improving life for women and girls and building on gay rights victories rather than our movement being used as a Trojan horse for this.

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by Anonymousreply 132October 17, 2021 1:04 AM

They're prime candidates for early cancer so they may not make it to old age. But not before they suck up more medical and health resources.

Magdalen was such a loss.

by Anonymousreply 133October 17, 2021 7:34 AM

What's the latest?

This story is almost 3 weeks old.

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