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The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills 4-Part Reunion Trailer- Andy comes for Erika Jayne hard!

Omg I’ve never seen Andy come for one of the women this hard before! Hes calling her out and putting it all out there. Wow. This is a first. And must see!

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by Anonymousreply 159October 25, 2021 8:45 PM

Oh HELL YES. Can't wait.

Loathe Rinna and Dorit.

by Anonymousreply 1October 6, 2021 8:02 PM

How much does Erika get paid for the show? (it was mentioned as a topic in OPs clip)

by Anonymousreply 2October 6, 2021 8:14 PM

speak up bitch (EJ) we all know you knew more than you're letting on

by Anonymousreply 3October 6, 2021 8:15 PM

Bravo is boring.

by Anonymousreply 4October 6, 2021 8:18 PM

Is this starting tonight ?

by Anonymousreply 5October 6, 2021 8:22 PM

Rinna is going to look so bad if it comes out that EJ knew what her husband was doing this whole time

by Anonymousreply 6October 6, 2021 8:22 PM

Andy has NEVER come hard fora woman.

by Anonymousreply 7October 6, 2021 8:24 PM

[quote]How much does Erika get paid for the show?

$500,000 a season. So she is not broke. And she could have left her husband.

by Anonymousreply 8October 6, 2021 8:44 PM

^^ I think that was Andy's point

by Anonymousreply 9October 6, 2021 8:47 PM

Despise both Rinna and Erika.

Sorry, I LOVE Dorit. Don't know why!

She gets no respect and I suspect this is her last season :(

by Anonymousreply 10October 6, 2021 8:50 PM

I find this delightful. This thieving bitch, who gleefully watched how her husband stole hundreds of millions from the devastated relatives of a plane crash's victims, and (mis)used the money to lead a wasteful lifestyle and play Rockstar Barbie dress up, deserves to be publicly shamed for everyone's amusement.

She is a talentless old whore and one of the most annoying, unpleasant and egomaniacal real housemonsters of plastic surgery, alongside Nene Leakes (who is also broke, incidentally), that Giudice gorilla with fake boobs, the Frankel Crypt Keeper and the entirety of the utterly INSUFFERABLE Orange County set. And let's not even get started on Lisa Rinna...

I hope she likes to wear orange jumpsuits, because it looks like she will have to adapt to a Slammer Glamour style really soon. 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

by Anonymousreply 11October 6, 2021 8:52 PM

R11- She is not going to jail, she will get away with this I think.

I have to agree- Erika's personality was always so cold - inherently cold- just like PK called her out on years ago.

It kind of worked on the show and gave her some edge.

However, when all this shit was revealed it makes her an absolute bitch and monster...

Nene was at at least entertaining (a detestable human being) but funny as hell. Erika has NO sense of humor. Literally- NOTHING.

by Anonymousreply 12October 6, 2021 8:59 PM

Thanks R8. I had no idea she got that much.

by Anonymousreply 13October 6, 2021 10:53 PM

I want him to go for Kyle

by Anonymousreply 14October 7, 2021 5:29 AM

This ought to be thread 6.

Is OP someone who starts new threads (that everyone ignores) because she is not a subscriber?

by Anonymousreply 15October 7, 2021 6:15 AM

R15 what????

by Anonymousreply 16October 7, 2021 3:15 PM

last thread paywalled so why not post here

Rinna looked so much younger in this week's episode with that dark wig.

by Anonymousreply 17October 7, 2021 6:53 PM

I never watch the show but was surprised how Rinna looked in that clip without her signature wig.

by Anonymousreply 18October 7, 2021 8:01 PM

Rinna always looks better with any style that is not her signature "Meg Ryan circa 1997".

by Anonymousreply 19October 7, 2021 11:16 PM

people are commenting how much older Erika's face looks in the reunion trailer compared to this season lol she must not be able to afford all those cosmetic upkeep procedures anymore

by Anonymousreply 20October 7, 2021 11:21 PM

"In tonight's performance, the role of Erika Jayne will be played by her mother."

by Anonymousreply 21October 8, 2021 12:27 AM

so Charlie Sheen no longer has to pay Denise child support wow

by Anonymousreply 22October 8, 2021 3:26 AM

Perhaps in honor of Erika's starring role in the upcoming reunion, the Louvre featured Pazuzu today on Instagram!

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by Anonymousreply 23October 8, 2021 1:09 PM

I'm so ready for the reunion

by Anonymousreply 24October 8, 2021 6:08 PM

Brad Goreski reenacts the dinner from hell

some housewives commented on it too

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by Anonymousreply 25October 10, 2021 7:24 AM

Isn’t Brad married to that Family Guy comic?

by Anonymousreply 26October 10, 2021 10:53 PM

had no idea he was married

by Anonymousreply 27October 11, 2021 6:02 PM

[quote]R12 She is not going to jail, she will get away with this I think.

Her trump card is she could sell out hubs and take a plea deal.

by Anonymousreply 28October 11, 2021 6:29 PM

Wan't Erika and Tom being sued in the last 3-5 years...I recall an appearance on WWHL and she said she couldn't talk about it.

by Anonymousreply 29October 11, 2021 6:34 PM

When is the reunion show?

by Anonymousreply 30October 11, 2021 11:49 PM

R30 starts Wednesday.

by Anonymousreply 31October 12, 2021 12:56 AM


by Anonymousreply 32October 12, 2021 12:57 AM

r29 He's been in trouble for a long time. He'd been paying off and bribing people and it finally caught up with him.

r12 I don't think hubs will be able to protect her much longer. She's been playing along as long doesn't stick to her but she won't have anywhere to turn after this show is done with her if it does. I wonder if the casino guy will drop her if that happens

by Anonymousreply 33October 12, 2021 7:50 PM

Omg I can’t wait

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by Anonymousreply 34October 13, 2021 8:30 PM

Damn, what awful people.

by Anonymousreply 35October 13, 2021 8:35 PM

That reunion set is almost at tacky as the women sitting on it.

by Anonymousreply 36October 13, 2021 9:10 PM

R34. Rinna is such a fucking cunt.

by Anonymousreply 37October 13, 2021 9:39 PM

I used to like Rinna but I'm here for Garcelle

by Anonymousreply 38October 13, 2021 9:54 PM

Why did Denise Richards leave?

by Anonymousreply 39October 13, 2021 9:57 PM

I think she was blind drunk and couldn’t find the set.

by Anonymousreply 40October 13, 2021 10:44 PM

^^ Oh sorry that was KIM Richards!

by Anonymousreply 41October 13, 2021 10:45 PM

R39 because Denise couldn't handle being involved in a storyline she didn't like and several times refused to film or left scenes last season. Then she turned around and said she'd return for more money and Bravo was like oh fuck no. Denise was boring her first season and an entitled spoiler of scenes in her second season. She should never be on again. I like Garcelle overall but I can't stand her unwavering loyalty to nutty Denise.

Denise's husband "cancer is your best friend" is indefensible btw. and why does Charlie Sheen now have custody of their daughters? Something's up

by Anonymousreply 42October 13, 2021 10:58 PM

Rinna realllly wants to call Garcelle a nigger.

by Anonymousreply 43October 14, 2021 3:28 AM

Agreed r43, and Dorit isn’t much better. They are so angry with her. They’re both coming off bad tonight.

Erika is on Xanax or Klonopin, she’s eerily calm.

by Anonymousreply 44October 14, 2021 3:33 AM

Yep. Dorit basically hates Garcelle and wants her out in her place.

And Lisa “Harry Hamlin!” Rinna ABSOLUTELY thinks Garcelle bringing race into the show is “not in the spirit of RHOBH”.

by Anonymousreply 45October 14, 2021 3:38 AM

Erika has the starts of Meemaw face.

by Anonymousreply 46October 14, 2021 3:43 AM

I’m fascinated with Lisa’s lips.

by Anonymousreply 47October 14, 2021 3:50 AM

Lisa walked over to Garcelle and they’re all looking at her like she’s phony and/or nuts . There isn’t an authentic bone in Lisa Rinna’s body. She thinks she’s doing improv Days of Our Lives.

by Anonymousreply 48October 14, 2021 3:52 AM

She shut down the racist talk damn quick by straddling Garcelle. Who totally received that message about Racist Rinna from Kyle.

by Anonymousreply 49October 14, 2021 6:19 AM

[quote] [R39] because Denise couldn't handle being involved in a storyline she didn't like and several times refused to film or left scenes last season. Then she turned around and said she'd return for more money and Bravo was like oh fuck no. Denise was boring her first season and an entitled spoiler of scenes in her second season. She should never be on again. I like Garcelle overall but I can't stand her unwavering loyalty to nutty Denise

Wrong. Denise left because of Kyle calling a meeting every single fucking week and demanded to know if she eat Brandi’s pussy, even though every week Denise denied it.

Denise didn’t like the whooooole season being about whether she cheated on her husband when grifter Dorit, scam artist Teddi, married to a trans-chaser Kyle, married to the Where Do We Start With The Rumours About Harry? Rinna never get called on their personal lives.

The truth is Denise addressed it a few times but Kyle and Teddi wouldn’t shut up about it, the same way the Kyle kept stirring the pot between Crystal and Sutton and later, when Erika and Sutton called a truce, Kyle told Erika Sutton was talking shit about her.

Denise didn’t want to be last season’s Sutton and bowed out.

by Anonymousreply 50October 14, 2021 6:26 AM

R50 hi Denise. You know what these shows are about. The producers were salivating over the idea that a famous actress might have had an affair with 1 of their own Bravolebrities. Storylines often run for entire seasons. Denise couldn't handle it. Yelling "Bravo Bravo Bravo" to end scenes pissed off production. She left Garcelle hanging in the season finale. Denise doesn't need to return to reality tv if she's not willing to play the game. The housewives brand has been on tv long enough that I don't feel sorry for anyone joining at this stage. No one should join that show if she wants to keep her reputation in tact. Sometimes the storylines are true and sometimes they are rumors.

by Anonymousreply 51October 14, 2021 6:45 AM

the 2 most unintentionally hilarious moments of the part 1 reunion tonight were:

A) Andy and Erika's dialogue at the beginning;.

Andy: How'd you sleep?

Erika: Very well

Andy: Really?

Erika: Was I supposed to sleep any other way?

I fucking howled at that


B) Sutton saying her business had grown "excrementally". Erika seemed to be the only one to notice that mistake and made a stink face as this twitter user noted:

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by Anonymousreply 52October 14, 2021 6:48 AM

Without the fillers and glam squad, Erika’s face now has an eerily resemblance to Bette Davis’ daughter BD Hyman.

by Anonymousreply 53October 14, 2021 1:34 PM

Erika looks like Anna Nicole's mother.

by Anonymousreply 54October 14, 2021 5:29 PM

I'd love to know who texted Garcelle about Rinna. Clearly it's someone who knows them both

by Anonymousreply 55October 14, 2021 5:56 PM

It was probably Denise

by Anonymousreply 56October 14, 2021 6:09 PM

What was the text? (I’m just here for the recap.

by Anonymousreply 57October 14, 2021 6:29 PM

[quote] married to a trans-chaser Kyle

Really7? First I heard that. Her hubby is hot, please tell us more.

by Anonymousreply 58October 14, 2021 7:44 PM

Garcelle that someone told we that Rinna said this ain’t a show about race

by Anonymousreply 59October 14, 2021 10:38 PM

Her not we

by Anonymousreply 60October 14, 2021 10:38 PM

Erika looks awful

by Anonymousreply 61October 15, 2021 2:53 AM

I'm really eager for Andy's questioning of Erika especially about her marriage

I hope he asks the obvious about the timeline between Tom's alleged Alzheimer's, his scams and his affairs. No one on the show has really brought that up, including detective Sutton. That is the most obvious thing to me, even more so than some of the less believable details in Erika's stories. No way could Tom cheat on her, scam people out of millions of dollars if he was in mental decline. So when did he start going into decline and when were his last business deals?

by Anonymousreply 62October 15, 2021 3:06 AM

Was he still active in law in the last few years … taking depositions, negotiating contracts, handling complicated wire transfers to offshore accounts? Or was he just sitting in his office, wondering where he was?

by Anonymousreply 63October 15, 2021 3:39 AM

I was listening to Watch What Crappens and they said Erika looked like Tina Yothers on the reunion and they weren’t exaggerating.

by Anonymousreply 64October 15, 2021 3:49 AM

R63 that's what we need to know.

by Anonymousreply 65October 15, 2021 4:04 AM

The Lion Air crash was in the fall of 2018, so presumably he still had his marbles then.

by Anonymousreply 66October 15, 2021 4:13 AM

For me the highlight of part 1 was Garcelle & Rinna making up. I like Garcelle but do think she’s been trying to torture Lisa for the way she treated Denise. I really hope they mend their friendship. Last night I dreamt that Rinna & LVP were face to face & LVp was screaming at Rinna. I think it was residual stuff about their potential mended friendship, versus Rinna & LVP’s ruined one.

by Anonymousreply 67October 15, 2021 5:03 AM

With big law firms the names on the company door are the guys who are out hustling up business. The people who do the real work could be anyone. But the company guy setting up and approving the flow of payments most likely would have been Tom or another company guy. That is where Erika has some leeway in knowing what was going on. If Tom wanted to keep her in the dark it would have been easy. Which is why I think they are telling her they will protect her if they do what they tell her to do. Fat chance.

For reference when Johnny Depp decided to sue his representatives, the law firm that had been representing him for 30 years shut down and divested their assets rather then deal with his claims.

by Anonymousreply 68October 15, 2021 6:00 AM

Would any of the housewives even spit on Erika’s twat if it were on fire?

I ask myself this.

by Anonymousreply 69October 15, 2021 6:17 AM

Lisa Rinna makes my skin crawl. She’s full of rage that’s excessive and inappropriate. The way she love bombed Garcelle to shut down the racism discussion made me uncomfortable. It’s similar to her anger towards Kim; she threatened her physically twice.

Why on earth would anyone trust her or see her in a sympathetic light after she flushed a 20 year friendship with Denise down the toilet for Pussygate.

She’s gotten away with it because she’s been the driver of storylines for several seasons. She needs to step up her game, however; Sutton, Garcelle and Crystal made it clear they can create drama on their own without her help.

by Anonymousreply 70October 15, 2021 6:56 AM

Does anyone really believe 80 year old Tom was having an affair?

by Anonymousreply 71October 15, 2021 10:47 AM

It’s possible when the man is rich

by Anonymousreply 72October 15, 2021 11:51 AM

r71 Lot's of old people still have egos that need feeding.

by Anonymousreply 73October 15, 2021 5:52 PM

speaking of egos,

with Vanderpump Rules flopping hard in the ratings, someone is considering coming back to RHOBH but no way in hell is she worth $2,000,000 and because she left, the producers would not pay her the same rate as the only original left, Kyle

the show doesn't even need her with ratings doing very well this season.

Sure, if you listen to the rabid fans on twitter and instagram, they want Kyle, Rinna, Erika and Dorit fired with LVP, Camille and Denise coming back. I think a cast made up of LVP, Camille, Denise, Garcelle, Sutton and Crystal would be pretty boring with only minor drama

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by Anonymousreply 74October 17, 2021 4:17 AM

I do wish LVP would come back, just for the drama she’d create, all the while professing to be totally aboveboard. I like her but accept her for the shady lady she is!

by Anonymousreply 75October 17, 2021 4:35 AM

The questions about Tom's legal and professional activities and his state of mind should also present questions about any litigation he has been involved with over the past decade. If he was out of his mind enough to embezzle tens or hundreds of millions for himself and his wife, and if he really did have serious brain injuries, then how can his legal representation for clients stand unchallenged?

by Anonymousreply 76October 18, 2021 2:10 PM

How can one be senile and still calculatedly embezzle vast sums? If he’s senile now you could say he cannot participate in his own defense, but it doesn’t mean he couldn’t, say, have murdered someone.

I don’t buy the diminished capacity claim for a minute, BTW.

by Anonymousreply 77October 18, 2021 3:13 PM

Holy shit! I almost gave this its own thread.

LVP is such a fucking liar.

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by Anonymousreply 78October 19, 2021 8:16 PM

^finally!! Kyle & the truthful Lisa are redeemed!!!

by Anonymousreply 79October 20, 2021 2:15 AM

I don't see why the producers would lie but why didn't they say it way back then when LVP refused to attend the reunion? There were still people covering for her at the time.

Dorit is horrible though for bringing the dog to a kill shelter and LVP has now been exposed as a liar. The LVP psycho stans of course still won't believe LVP lied

by Anonymousreply 80October 20, 2021 2:53 AM

Dorit didn’t take the dog to a kill shelter. She gave it to what she thought was a good family, & that woman took the dog to the shelter. I’d heard it was a no-kill shelter, but LVP played it up for dramatic effect.

by Anonymousreply 81October 20, 2021 3:11 AM

oh ok I didn't know that part. Glad Dorit didn't take it to a kill shelter

well glad Kyle is vindicated at least. LVP and Ken are true sociopaths for blowing up on her when they were in fact lying

by Anonymousreply 82October 20, 2021 3:33 AM

P78. Some of the comments are unbelievable. Those LVP loons are fucking psychotic

by Anonymousreply 83October 20, 2021 3:44 AM


by Anonymousreply 84October 20, 2021 3:46 AM

LVP stans are ridiculous. It’s always the same thing: she’s so classy & rich, everyone’s just jealous. Her brother killed himself, leave her alone. Now her mother died, have you no shame? Giggy died! Hasn’t this woman suffered enough????

by Anonymousreply 85October 20, 2021 3:51 AM

without question and for an unknown reason, LVP has become the housewife with the most insane and loyal fans. Second place goes to Teresa. I don't know why LVP has so many fans to begin with but even more than that why they act like she's so amazing and perfect. They get angry when she's accused of anything and will attack on social media

by Anonymousreply 86October 20, 2021 3:56 AM

I don’t understand the article. It says “When Lisa lost the narrative in the show, and she realized that it wasn’t going the way she wanted, that’s when she leaked the story to the press.” What narrative had she lost? Wasn’t it her leaking the story to the press that she lost the narrative of? This seems to imply she leaked the story as a result of something else, which doesn’t really make much sense.

by Anonymousreply 87October 21, 2021 6:03 AM

I think what happened is this:

After season 4, when LVP was the villain, there seemed to be a pact between LVP and Kyle -they started to manipulate and twist the storylines by using a foil like Rinna to do their dirty work, while they pretended to be above the fray. They stopped getting into confrontations directly with other cast members themselves and started self-producing.

See-Munchausens, Pantygate, etc.

The real reason LVP was iced out by Brandi, Kyle, Kim and Yolanda in season 4 was they were pissed that she used the show to launch Vanderpump Rules. But they all ended up unlikeable on season 4 as a result, and that’s why it’s probably the worst season of the show.

When her final season began, LVP wanted the main storyline to be Dorit dumping that dog in a shelter. She was trying to use Teddi to push this forward by having her gays tell Teddi the story on camera, knowing she would confront Dorit in front of everyone .

LVP’s real purpose here was trying to use the story as a launchpad for yet another spinoff about one of her businesses, this time Vanderpump dogs.

What LVP didn’t know was her plan would backfire, because the other bitches got together and decided they weren’t going to allow her to do this again. There was actually a story in Radar Online about them meeting, with Rinna leading a toast at a restaurant to taking Lisa down.

That story could have been planted but is definitely plausible.

When LVP realized Kyle was going to fuck her over she through her out of her house and she left the show.

Since Kim and Brandi left, this show has been about some inane drama between two cast members , orchestrated deftly by Kyle and/or LVP-usually it’s a newbie fighting with someone who’s getting too popular.

What makes this season interesting is Kyle didn’t need to do that-the Erika/Tom drama unfolded and created the most interesting storyline in years.

by Anonymousreply 88October 21, 2021 6:32 AM

yeah I think what the producer meant by "LVP lost control of the narrative" is that during filming, LVP realized the other ladies were not on her side. She wanted to get ahead of the season by leaking the story to the press so that her rabid fans would come in fuming and automatically lash out against the rest of the cast. It worked actually and the producer calling LVP out for lying about leaking the story will not likely have an effect on most of the show's viewers. The ones who already believed she was lying now have it confirmed but most of her fans will just say oh the producer is biased and probably close to Kyle so they'll disregard what he's saying.

by Anonymousreply 89October 21, 2021 6:41 AM

so tonight in part II, Andy didn't fully question Erika about Tom's mental decline. He asked 1 question about it but he never got into the timeline. Can we buy that Tom could repeat old memories to entertain people but forget daily topics? sure but if that is the case, then he surely would have made numerous mistakes while working as a lawyer. I don't see how he could have continued as a lawyer for the last several years or juggle 3 mistresses and a wife.

by Anonymousreply 90October 21, 2021 6:44 AM

the other attorneys and staffers working around him surely would have noticed that Tom wasn't as sharp as he used to be and wouldn't be able to continue handling cases. If you can't remember the name of new associates anymore, how can you scam people out of millions of dollars at the same time?

by Anonymousreply 91October 21, 2021 6:45 AM

R90 I predicted above several weeks ago that the reunion clips of Andy 'grilling' Erika were created through editing and would not play out the same way in context. Not exactly a psychic reading given that previews of every episode do the same thing. The editors just intercut 'shocked' reaction shots and GASP! music after a question to make it look like Andy has lowered the axe. Or else he really says something like "People are saying you're guilty. What do you say to them?" and the clips show footage of him saying "you're guilty" followed by out-of-context reactions from Erika and the other women with their mouths agape and Erika blotting tears. It's really annoying to me that all the media that cover this crap 'report' on such trailers that Andy is roasting Erika and then that takes on a life of its own. I heard someone say 'Andy Cohen gives Ronan Farrow a run for his money in the reunions,' but Andy was not adversarial or even that tough on Erika. He allowed her to give her pre-ordained explanations that her lawyers worked out for her and he didn't ask many follow-up questions to challenge her.

by Anonymousreply 92October 21, 2021 7:02 AM

as someone who isn't married, can someone explain Erika giving all her paychecks to Tom's firm and why she wouldn't have had access to her own money? Was it put into a trust of some sort? and why agree to give your money to your spouse but have no access?

that also leads to another question. If Tom was truly in mental decline the last few years, who was the one giving both he and Erika money for all their expenses pre-divorce? Again, if he can't remember the names of Erika's castmates, then he surely cannot manage money for them to keep living on

by Anonymousreply 93October 21, 2021 7:29 AM

R93 I don't think most married people have arrangements like that, with one spouse allegedly surrendering their paycheck to another.

Tom supposedly had many tens of millions of dollars. I can conceive of a scenario in which a person with assets like that would have a team of business and financial managers who would account for everything, and I can conceive of a lazy spouse with no money management skills taking advantage of such a team to manage their assets along with the rest of the household's assets. In theory, it's not a stretch that a trophy spouse would do this and live an easy life without worrying at all about managing money, which is stressful and annoying.

In this case, though, the stories don't add up. Erika has said throughout the series that Tom pays to support her, and she has said he pays up to $40,000 per month for her beauty services. If she is aware of that figure, then she has some idea of how much her lifestyle costs and how it is paid for. That means she isn't clueless about her finances. If she gave her money to him and he covered her exorbitant expenses, then it would seem that their money was community property, collected together and distributed to both from the same pot or by the same team of managers, at least.

She said she couldn't go anywhere/get out because she surrendered her paycheck(s) to her husband. But she did eventually get out. She left him and moved into a $10,000-per-month rental property. If she did not have access to her own money, then where did she get the money to do that? While $10k/month may be "slumming it" by the standards of the people on this show, $10k/month is a lot of money and exorbitant and should be impossible for someone who left with nothing and no access to cash to cover. No one will rent a luxury home with a heated backyard pool to someone on an IOU.

To give her the benefit of the doubt, I'd need to know what changed in her life from all the years she was financially captive to the day she walked out and signed a lease for $120,000 a year. She was cut off from accessing her own money and then she had more money than 99 percent of American people on the day she finally did leave. How did that happen?

Andy is not asking the right questions or follow-ups to get the credit he is getting.

by Anonymousreply 94October 21, 2021 8:21 AM

Andy went easier on Erika than he did on Garcelle.

by Anonymousreply 95October 21, 2021 10:35 AM

EJ so rehearsed, so many lies and it seemed like Andy was playing along with her. What I R K E D me to no end was that certain ladies (Dorit, Rinna & Kyle) bent over backwards to try and hold up Erika’s bullshit filled stories.

I CACKLED when Kathy broke down over her evil Mother. I just read House of Hilton, those richards/hiltons are nuts because of sociopath Big Kathy.

by Anonymousreply 96October 21, 2021 11:26 AM

of course a lot of idiotic viewers still LOVE Kathy but I thought she came off very poorly last night. She basically admitted her falling out with Kyle was all because she's bizarrely overprotective of her mother's reputation and didn't like how Kyle put their family business out there for public consumption.

This is the same woman who also said during RHOBH this season that the press has written so many things about her and her family and she doesn't care.

Why does Kathy care so much what the public thinks about her mother? Clearly she and her sisters had unconventional childhoods to put it nicely. I appreciate that Kyle is so open about it.

by Anonymousreply 97October 21, 2021 5:21 PM

I don’t get the Kathy love either. She’s been nasty to Kyle all these years, raised 2 quasi-horrible brats (Nicki’s ok), put her daughter in an abusive boarding school, fat- & fashion-shamed her alcoholic sister, now is playing the part of a moron for yuks. I think her fans are the same ones who worship at the shrine of LVP.

by Anonymousreply 98October 21, 2021 5:25 PM

R98 they are. Many of them were hoping Kathy was going to join the show and fight with Kyle. They were disappointed she's not doing that but instead think her "comedy" is oh so funny despite the obvious bad acting job

by Anonymousreply 99October 21, 2021 5:27 PM

I knew Kathy was full of shit when she was on WWHL, and she purposely butchered Leonardo DiCaprio's name for laughs. I'm like, "Bitch, aren't you half Italian? How the fuck do you mispronounce his name like that?"

Playing the down-to-earth, ditzy, uber-rich socialite is her shtick, and shockingly, many viewers can't see through it.

by Anonymousreply 100October 21, 2021 5:32 PM

Mooghan MooCain & S.e. (2girls1) Cupp were on Wwhl last night & declared Kathy is the all time best housewife. Wtf!!!

by Anonymousreply 101October 22, 2021 5:04 AM

[quote] I knew Kathy was full of shit when she was on WWHL, and she purposely butchered Leonardo DiCaprio's name for laughs.

I hope it didn't take you that long. It's easily apparent to me on the show that she is playing a partially scripted, partially improvised character in the same way her daughter has done. No one who doesn't have dementia is as daft as the new Kathy Hilton TV character is—except the TV Paris Hilton character. The box fan, the Red Bull, Hunky Dory especially all are obvious creations for the show.

The thing is, the character is pretty funny if you accept the deceptiveness of the series insisting it's "reality" while presenting a wholly created character. I think she is funny with good comic timing and dry delivery and I think she could honestly be a decent Jennifer Coolidge type for productions with budgets too low to afford the real thing. I mean that seriously, not as a dis.

Watching past seasons reveals via Kathy's cameos that she is nothing at all like this character. In all past seasons, her appearances may as well have been accompanied by the Wizard of Oz music cues used when the Wicked Witch of the West. Both Kim and Kyle said in multiple seasons that Kathy is best known for questioning what they are wearing, telling them they look bad and telling them they look "ugly." And then cut to Kathy saying something like, "You're going to wear that? Really, though, you're not putting me on? OK." This season, Kathy—she who taunted her sisters for not looking good enough or wearing nice enough clothes—was seen throughout looking schlumpy in sweats and Kyle even taunted Kathy with "Are you really wearing that?" It's roleplay.

Kathy Hilton raised at least one horrible human being (Conrad, who threatened to kill an airline staff while in flight, called passengers "peasants" and laughed when he was taken off the flight in handcuffs, announcing that his father is rich and will pay $300,000 to get him out of jail. He's above the law and he knows it, just another Trump in the making.) I don't know what to think of Paris as a person because we only know her character persona. And Nicky zeroed in on one of the richest people on Planet Earth to merge her wealth with.

Kathy raised opportunistic and predatory children. She ain't no silly old grandma who carries around a $50 box fan from Target. She's a high profile person and she agreed to do this show as a character and not her real self so that she wouldn't risk giving away any part of her real life.

by Anonymousreply 102October 22, 2021 9:17 AM

R102 that could work unless someone goes after her in the press with something scandalous she'd previously done. The reality tv format often takes cast members through the fan favorite to villain rollercoaster.

by Anonymousreply 103October 22, 2021 9:57 AM

R103 She was said to be a one-season-and-done "friend" cast member initially. I don't know if that changed but if it did and she were to stay more than one more season, then yes, she's likely bound to be vilified. Fame is hard to give up. She was tempted to do the show even after she saw it almost kill one of her sisters, so she is probably on the hook until the hook starts to shred her public image.

by Anonymousreply 104October 22, 2021 10:04 AM

If you haven’t read House if Hilton yet you should. “Kooky” “doddering” Kathy Hilton is a complete invention for RHOBH, she’s a scheming, vindictive, narcissistic bitch just like dear old Mom she was shedding tears for.

Gross. Their mom was such a grifter psycho I have no idea how Kyle is semi-normal.

by Anonymousreply 105October 22, 2021 11:22 AM

They need to bring back the other sister, Kim, on the show.

by Anonymousreply 106October 22, 2021 12:54 PM

Anyone remembers Kathy's first foray into reality tv with her own show "I Want To Be A Hilton"? It looks like another The Apprentice wannabe. Some YouTuber uploaded the episodes.

Nicky looks so much like Kathy, I almost thought it was her at first.

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by Anonymousreply 107October 22, 2021 1:03 PM

[quote] I have no idea how Kyle is semi-normal.

Probably because she had the benefit of two older sisters who likely protected her from the worst of Bjg Kathy. Big Kathy was also probably mostly focused on Kim since she had the most successful acting career. That’s also probably why Kim is the most messed up of the 3.

by Anonymousreply 108October 22, 2021 3:26 PM

Denise Richards, Rinna, Yolanda, AND Kyle were all Heidi Fleiss girls and that is how they know each other.

by Anonymousreply 109October 22, 2021 5:11 PM

She was caught in a lie. She said "where was I going to go?" and then pointed at all the ladies asking if they were going to take her in. Sutton offered her a loan so she could escape. Erika turned her down. She had no money but someone got a car lease, apartment and a moving company to move her out in a day? Come the fuck on. She knew everything and this was their escape lane. He would transfer the assets to her, she would file divorce so when all this came out she whould protect the stolen money. It just all came out too soon.

by Anonymousreply 110October 22, 2021 5:17 PM

Can someone enlighten me about why in season one (which they flashed back to in the reunion when talking to Kyle and Kathy) when Kyle calls Kim an alcoholic Kim screams that Kyle stole her house. What is the story behind that?

Also, man there is a LOT of trauma in that family if Kathy is sobbing about her mother’s death years later and the sisters are on again off again with contacting each other. Wonder what happened in their childhoods.

by Anonymousreply 111October 22, 2021 6:04 PM

[quote] when Kyle calls Kim an alcoholic Kim screams that Kyle stole her house. What is the story behind that?

I was wondering the same thing, R111. But i thought she said Kyle stole her "husband".

by Anonymousreply 112October 22, 2021 6:26 PM

[quote] I predicted above several weeks ago that the reunion clips of Andy 'grilling' Erika were created through editing and would not play out the same way in context.

R92, are you some sort of wizard that you can predict the future so?!?!?!

by Anonymousreply 113October 22, 2021 6:33 PM

Big Kathy owned a home in Palm Springs and the sisters would take their kids there every year for large family vacations. We see the house in season one, when Kyle and Kim go to Palm Springs-it’s the house where their scenes are shot.

When Big Kathy died, she left the house to the three sisters. Kathy Hilton sold her share to Kyle. Kyle also bought out Kim, who was probably drinking at the time. Kim seems to think she basically had a mortgage on her share with Kyle and that Kyle would return her share to her when she had the money.

Kyle saw it as the sale of property and refused to give her back part ownership of the house-that’s where the “YOU STOLE MY GODAMNED HOUSE” comes from.

Kyle and Mauricio sold the house during season 4 and bought the one we saw this season at that time.

by Anonymousreply 114October 22, 2021 7:47 PM

Kyle and Mauricio have been funding Kim's lifestyle for years so I don't blame Kyle for taking over their mother's house. Kim blew all her money

by Anonymousreply 115October 22, 2021 8:20 PM

[quote]Kim blew all her money

That's not all she blew.

by Anonymousreply 116October 22, 2021 9:12 PM

R109 good tea, can you elaborate?

by Anonymousreply 117October 22, 2021 10:33 PM

r109 that is a lie at least regarding Rinna. I can't say I am her biggest fan but I have know her since she dated Peter Barton. She hustled but never was a call girl. Hell she was working at Sunglass Hut when she met Harry.

by Anonymousreply 118October 22, 2021 11:56 PM

Say what you will, no one sells a synthetic, featherweight, full length cardigan in just 3 easy payments like Rinna.

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by Anonymousreply 119October 23, 2021 3:05 AM

Saw Halloween Kills tonight, by the way, and not only did Kyle do well, but she lived!

by Anonymousreply 120October 23, 2021 3:51 AM

Erika is such a dumb hooker but I love watching her melodramatic antics. It’s hilarious how she keeps showcasing her “poverty”

by Anonymousreply 121October 23, 2021 3:55 AM

R111 The story seems to be that the Hilton mother died and willed a house she owned in Palm Desert (or something) to the daughters. Each had a share. According to Kyle, Kim did not have the money to make payments on the house and so she (Mauricio) paid Kim the cash value for her share of the house and Kim wanted that at the time but later resented Kyle for "stealing my goddam house!" because Kim feels her child labor is what paid for her mother's whole house in the first place. So in a way, neither of them is wrong. Kyle did what was best for Kim by buying Kim out when Kim needed cash, and Kyle kept the house in the family.

But Kim was the family's cash cow as a child and teen, and her work is probably what bought the house in the first place, and I can't blame her for having some misplaced resentment transferred onto her sisters, who ultimately profited indirectly from her work.

On top of that, Kim is probably embarrassed that Kyle "saved" her in this way with money that Kim feels was her own to begin with, while keeping the rest for herself while Kim had continued to struggle financially, relatively speaking.

It's also useful perspective to remember that Kim married a billionaire and expected to be fabulously wealthy from her earliest years because she had a successful acting career compared with (what at the time must have seemed like) her third-rate sisters *AND* she married a human bank. She must have always thought of her life as enchanted. (Kyle has said several times that she thought Kim was magic growing up and Kim, being kooky and addicted to mind-altering substances, might have had some magical ideations about herself when she was young, too.)

Then she not only lost her bank-husband access but her career fizzled, Kathy became the fabulously rich one and then famous because of her daughter's cocksucking, and then Kyle became fabulously rich and then famous because of her reality show. And now Kyle is refurbished with many surgical interventions and in movie theatres in a bad slasher movie that is getting tons of press for some reason.

So while it isn't objectively real, I can put myself in Kim's head enough, beginning with her early-in-life fame and fortune, and imagine why she feels so wronged by life and by Kyle especially. People who are disappointed for how their lives are going naturally look for reasons why and often the blame lands on people close to them.

by Anonymousreply 122October 23, 2021 11:29 AM

r122 Marucio is a shady real estate agent. The reason Kim says they stole it is they paid her under market for her share while she was not able to really make decisions, then he sold it for three times the value he estimated to Kim. The right thing to do would have been sold it first then pay out. That is his M.O. It's why he was being sued recently. He was contacted to help sell the house of a foreign leader. He only presented low ball offers (which was actaully his low ball offer - he and some other investors bought the house which he is supposed to disclose as the realtor but he did not). Then they turned around and sold it for 42 million (I think they paid less than half that). He is a shady fuck.

by Anonymousreply 123October 23, 2021 2:30 PM

Kyle has her faults but if she were that bad, she wouldn't have been helping Kim financially for so many years. We don't even know if Kathy helps Kim at all either. Kim clearly suffers from typical child star syndrome, in which they got used to being popular and successful while young but it didn't carry over to their adult years. She's nearly 60 now and still hasn't gotten over it which is sad.

by Anonymousreply 124October 23, 2021 8:27 PM

I remember when RHOBH first premiered and they were advertising it not as "starring former child star Kim Richards" but instead " starring Paris Hilton's aunts and Kelsey Grammar's wife". The vast majority of people under 50 only know Kim from housewives, not any of her acting

by Anonymousreply 125October 23, 2021 8:40 PM

The only acting I've ever seen Kim do is that clip from Black Snake Moan. I guess I am too young for Witch Mountain, which seems weird since I am 43. I thought her Black Snake Moan performance was impressive.

by Anonymousreply 126October 23, 2021 8:48 PM

[quote] they got used to being popular and successful while young but it didn't carry over to their adult years. She's nearly 60 now and still hasn't gotten over it which is sad.

At least she doesn't have to look after a sister in a wheelchair.

by Anonymousreply 127October 24, 2021 1:50 AM

Kim had the longest career. Nanny and the Professor, all the Disney movies, Hello Larry, James at 16. She has been a staple of TV and movies since she was a baby. She acted steadily from 1971 to 1985. She was the primary breadwinner for that family. After Kathy landed a Hilton, she landed a billionaire. That turned out bad in the end.

by Anonymousreply 128October 24, 2021 1:56 AM

[quote]R122 Kim did not have the money to make payments on the house and so she (Mauricio) paid Kim the cash value for her share of the house and Kim wanted that at the time but later resented Kyle for "stealing my goddam house!" because Kim feels her child labor is what paid for her mother's whole house in the first place.

If the house was purchased back in Kim’s acting days, why would any of the three sisters still need to be making payments on it?

Maybe Kim should have been mad at their stupid, slutty mom for (re)mortgaging it to the hilt.

by Anonymousreply 129October 24, 2021 2:19 AM

[quote] Marucio is a shady real estate agent. The reason Kim says they stole it is they paid her under market for her share while she was not able to really make decisions, then he sold it for three times the value he estimated to Kim.

I never believed that Mauricio undersold Kim’s portion of the house, for two reasons:

1) Farrah handled the purchase on Kyle’s part, and Kim has always been tight with Farrah; and

2) Kim is a junkie. Their versions of events can never be trusted. They lie, lie, lie, never take responsibility and are rarely cogent of reality when they they are not 100% clean.

I can’t stand Kyle, but Mauricio’s lawsuit with regards to that other mansion means nothing in terms of the Palm Spring property.

by Anonymousreply 130October 24, 2021 3:21 AM

I wasn’t impressed with her in Black Snake Moan. Because Kim Richards isn’t actually drooling on screen, it’s hardly a great performance. She’s a mean, trashy bitch. Gee, what a stretch.

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by Anonymousreply 131October 24, 2021 3:25 AM

I don’t think Kyle screwed Kim over. I think Kim’s delusions got the better of her, like they usually do.

by Anonymousreply 132October 24, 2021 3:29 AM

Thanks, Rinna at R131, but Kim can act circles around you, high or not.

by Anonymousreply 133October 24, 2021 3:54 AM

Kim was in Tuff Turf with James Spader AND Robert Downey Jr., at their prime looks-wise. How did I not know this?

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by Anonymousreply 134October 24, 2021 12:31 PM

One comment calls is “Spanderific!”

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by Anonymousreply 135October 24, 2021 1:15 PM

[quote]The producers were salivating over the idea that a famous actress...


by Anonymousreply 136October 24, 2021 1:16 PM

Settle back and enjoy R126.

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by Anonymousreply 137October 24, 2021 1:43 PM

Spader and RDJ went on to John Hughes movies - wonder why Kim didn't

by Anonymousreply 138October 24, 2021 2:47 PM

Because she’s a terrible actor with no star power, r138.

Like former child stars the world over.

by Anonymousreply 139October 24, 2021 2:49 PM

She is not bad really and I could see her in 16 candles as the hot girl AMH ends up with or one of the mean girls in Pretty in Pink.

by Anonymousreply 140October 24, 2021 2:59 PM

Kim was easily the best looking out of the Richards sisters when they were young I’m actually surprised. From the pictures I saw Kathy was actually downright homeley and Kyle had a bad nose.

by Anonymousreply 141October 24, 2021 5:59 PM

No wonder Kim is so lost.

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by Anonymousreply 142October 24, 2021 6:02 PM

Kim is a hook-nosed midget. Being better looking than Kyle Richards (who, 3 nose jobs later, still looks like the Wicked Witch Of The West when she forgets to hide her smirk) isn’t saying much.

by Anonymousreply 143October 24, 2021 6:04 PM

Was there less competition in gold digging in the 80s? How did all the Richards sisters land rich men?

by Anonymousreply 144October 24, 2021 6:29 PM

Big Kathy groomed her girls to gold dig. When Kim landed a billionaire she suddenly had a new favorite daughter again. It was Kathy this and Kathy that before because she married a Hilton. Big Kathy was the one who convinced Kyle to have sex with the Indonesian man to trap him because she wrongly thought his family was billionaires too. The poor guy did not speak a word of engligh.

by Anonymousreply 145October 25, 2021 4:41 PM

[quote]Big Kathy was the one who convinced Kyle to have sex with the Indonesian man to trap him because she wrongly thought his family was billionaires too. The poor guy did not speak a word of english

Kyle has a type. Because she next moved on to the gardener, Mauricio.

by Anonymousreply 146October 25, 2021 4:53 PM

R146 in between them was an older news anchor Michael Tuck. They were engaged but Kyle left him for Mauricio

by Anonymousreply 147October 25, 2021 5:04 PM

Mama Kathy sounded like a piece of work. We will never get the real story about her as long as Kathy Hilton is alive.

by Anonymousreply 148October 25, 2021 5:20 PM

"Big Kathy" would make a great Halloween movie.

by Anonymousreply 149October 25, 2021 5:31 PM

did Big Kathy die before or after Paris' sex tape came out and she became famous for being bratty, snobby and trashy?

by Anonymousreply 150October 25, 2021 5:35 PM

[quote]r139 she’s a terrible actor with no star power. Like former child stars the world over.

Excuse me!

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by Anonymousreply 151October 25, 2021 5:41 PM

R147 That story about how she met Mauricio is probably the most incriminating thing Kyle ever said about herself. She just tossed out playfully, like it was really, really cool, that she was engaged to someone else and then she saw Mauricio and immediately broke up with her fiancé. Presumably, two people who are engaged to one another have been together for a while and care a lot about one another. The "dumped at first sight" scenario might be OK for a romcom plot device, but anyone who does that in real life and shows zero remorse strikes me as at least sociopath-adjacent. She was smirking when she said it.

And it incriminated the women she told, too, who acted like it was a fun scandal in a soap opera.

If a friend told me they did that, I would want to know how long they had been together, how hard it was for her to break up with him, if she knows how he is doing now, if she cares or ever thinks about him, etc.

by Anonymousreply 152October 25, 2021 6:18 PM

Little Kathy wanted Kyle to marry Mauricio because he needed a green card and was one of Rick Hilton’s top RE agents

by Anonymousreply 153October 25, 2021 6:42 PM

[quote]Little Kathy wanted Kyle to marry Mauricio because he needed a green card and was one of Rick Hilton’s top RE agents

Kathy: "He was looking with a chick with a dick, but I told him, 'Kyle can be a dick so that's almost the same thing. Besides, you can't have everything. Well, I can. But you can't. Because you're Mexican.'"

by Anonymousreply 154October 25, 2021 7:14 PM

r152 it is worse than that. Kathy told her to marry Mauricio so he could get a green card because he was Ricks's hottest agent and they didn't want to lose him. Kathy told Kyle how much he made in commission and she married him WHILE she was still engaged to Tuck. She never broke up with him she just let him find out she got married.

by Anonymousreply 155October 25, 2021 8:10 PM

Regarding the house, going back a bit further, Big Kathy got some old rich dude to pour big bucks into renovating her house, talked him into selling his, using that money, then he crapped out. There is a joint called the Nest in Indian Wells by Palm Desert where broads stake out the old geezers as sugar daddies. Most believe that’s where Big Kathy met the doddering old, rich fool. The whole family sounds like trash. The Gabor sluts have nothing on that group of users and opportunists and grifters.

by Anonymousreply 156October 25, 2021 8:35 PM

R154 They have REALLY played up the "Mauricio is Mexican" thing. He was born in Mexico but his background is Greek and Jewish. He moved to the US at age SIX, and he went to school in Beverly Hills and then to USC (from which he dropped out).

I am a bigtime supporter of DACA and the DREAM Act. The whole foundational principle of this legislation is that when children are brought to the US from a young age, the US is the only home they know and they are cultually American.

For some reason, Kyle and Bravo have consistently presented Mauricio as Mexican seemingly for some kind of street cred or something. He does speak with an accent, but it seems he is not Mexican by heritage or by upbringing. I'm sure there's some Latin influence from his family having lived there, but he is as American as any other person who moved here at a young age and feels thoroughly American.

by Anonymousreply 157October 25, 2021 8:40 PM

The Kathy character is totally fabricated, but I admit she is really funny in an off-kilter, Jennifer Coolidge-esque way. She missed her calling as a sitcom actress. She might do well on Curb Your Enthusiasm.

by Anonymousreply 158October 25, 2021 8:42 PM

The Nest in Indian Wells where Big Kathy used to hang is often called Courgarville.

by Anonymousreply 159October 25, 2021 8:45 PM
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