“A team of specialists who investigate cold cases says it has identified the Zodiac Killer, one of America's most prolific serial murderers who terrorized communities in the San Francisco area in the late 1960s with a series of brutal slayings and unsolvable riddles”
Don’t they have his DNA to test from the stamps on the letters? Don’t wake me until they announce a match.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | October 6, 2021 6:37 PM |
Uh oh.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | October 6, 2021 6:38 PM |
Fox news & TMZ? I think I’ll wait for another news source
by Anonymous | reply 4 | October 6, 2021 6:42 PM |
Man, so many retarded comments on Twitter from young people. Many comments like "the police didn't catch him because he was white, dats racist". No you stupid whores, it was because it was the '60s, forensic pathology was still in its infancy, and serial killers were a relatively new phenomenon. People shouldn't be allowed to speak in public forums until they're 30. Sew every zoomer's mouth shut.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | October 6, 2021 6:52 PM |
R5 And I bet a lot of them don't even know about The Doodler, the guy killing gay men around the same time in SF, was a black man who was also never caught. You can't apply modern racial tension logic to things that happened 60 years ago, but they don't understand that.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | October 6, 2021 6:56 PM |
Also, the group making these claims has some pretty flimsy evidence. For example, they haven't compared Poste's DNA to the sample from the letters. They also claim the scars on Poste's face match the police sketch, but the original witnesses never said they were scars, just forehead lines. Finally, they say a boot print matches a pair of boots Poste owned. However, that same print could be from 3-4 different types of boots/shoes available at the time. Their evidence is flimsy and similar to other "suspects" we've seen over the years.
That said, the only real suspect is Richard Gaikowski.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | October 6, 2021 7:09 PM |
I thought it had to be Arthur Leigh Allen, according to David Fincher.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | October 6, 2021 7:12 PM |
Was he hawt?
by Anonymous | reply 9 | October 6, 2021 7:12 PM |
This sounds like clickbait.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | October 6, 2021 7:22 PM |
This man is not the Zodiac Killer. I don't believe it.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | October 6, 2021 7:23 PM |
So the result is a bunch of "specialists" once again connecting a Zodiac suspect with a murder he had been associated with and then declaring that he WAS the Zodiac, as people already suspected?
Oh. A book. Of course.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | October 6, 2021 7:27 PM |
[quote] That said, the only real suspect is Richard Gaikowski.
Amen.
Weren't the Zodiac's "Wingwalker" boots a standard military issue boot? Not exactly surprising if someone else owned a pair.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | October 6, 2021 7:28 PM |
He's hot. Have at him, ladies.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | October 6, 2021 7:31 PM |
Thanks R14.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | October 6, 2021 7:38 PM |
I keep reading Poste as Potsie.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | October 6, 2021 8:19 PM |
I posted this in the other thread, it's interesting he was named several years ago by multiple people. contains links to pictures of him and family
by Anonymous | reply 17 | October 6, 2021 8:25 PM |
Rescue-chick, you're our honourary Mother Superior. And I am unanimous in that!
by Anonymous | reply 18 | October 6, 2021 8:40 PM |
I, too, am a fan of rescue-chick.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | October 6, 2021 8:42 PM |
I love her earrings r18!
by Anonymous | reply 20 | October 6, 2021 8:43 PM |
Puleeze.
Just ANOTHER suspect some team of obsessed serial murder fans glommed onto.
I did a deep dive many years ago into Zodiac and it was fun but these people - so called experts - are usually fame seeking blowhards. They get very territorially and start smearing each other if anyone dares to call them or their "findings" into question. Some of them are out and out charlatans.
So far I am very skeptical but it should be fun to once again enter the crazy world of the Zodiac hunters.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | October 6, 2021 8:47 PM |
Michael Myers did it.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | October 6, 2021 9:09 PM |
So, the evidence for Gaikowski is an old lady’s memory of a voice she had heard once 40 years earlier and the anonymous source who says Gaikowski knew things only the killer would know. How does the source confirm these things only the killer would know?
by Anonymous | reply 23 | October 6, 2021 9:21 PM |
R5 is just looking to bash young people. I bet the elderly Trumpsters who are reading this Fox News article probably believe lots of stupid things
by Anonymous | reply 24 | October 6, 2021 9:27 PM |
R21, the Zodiac nuts remind me of the people who come out of the woodwork every few years to accuse some dead, famous Victorian guy of being Jack the Ripper.
If he's ever identified, I bet it will be someone who was never considered a suspect, like the Golden State Killer or BTK
by Anonymous | reply 25 | October 6, 2021 9:30 PM |
Did they finally arrest Mitt Romney?
by Anonymous | reply 26 | October 6, 2021 9:47 PM |
R8, Fincher made a very compelling film, but Zodiac obsessives do not find Graysmith credible, and the film fabricates some of the evidence, such as it is, against Allen. The film vs. reality discussions are their own internet rabbit hole.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | October 6, 2021 9:52 PM |
Oh do fuck off Zodiac spammer
by Anonymous | reply 28 | October 6, 2021 9:52 PM |
The articles about the latest suspect S U C K.
Removing his “full name” from the codes allow them to be deciphered? What the fuck do they say?
by Anonymous | reply 29 | October 6, 2021 10:04 PM |
BUMP
by Anonymous | reply 30 | October 6, 2021 10:55 PM |
Somebody's thirsty.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | October 6, 2021 11:40 PM |
How big was his cock?
by Anonymous | reply 32 | October 7, 2021 12:11 AM |
[quote] So, the evidence for Gaikowski is an old lady’s memory of a voice she had heard once 40 years earlier and the anonymous source who says Gaikowski knew things only the killer would know. How does the source confirm these things only the killer would know?
I’m pretty sure there’s a lot more to it than just those two things, but I haven’t read about him in a number of years.
This new guy, though, is a joke. The Zodiac Killer message board people were all over this today.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | October 7, 2021 12:51 AM |
[quote]The family of Gary Francis Poste revealed his identity as the Zodiac Killer in order to clear his name of any association with Ted Cruz.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | October 7, 2021 2:46 AM |
I saw something nasty in the woodshed
by Anonymous | reply 35 | October 7, 2021 2:51 AM |
No f'ing way!
by Anonymous | reply 36 | October 7, 2021 2:58 AM |
You can run but you can't hide, Mitt!
by Anonymous | reply 37 | October 7, 2021 2:58 AM |
[quote]And I bet a lot of them don't even know about The Doodler,
No, he was a pedobear named the Diddler
by Anonymous | reply 38 | October 7, 2021 3:11 AM |
I watched the movie on Netflix tonight. I tend to think it was a bunch of different people.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | October 7, 2021 3:14 AM |
It was Mitt. It's a funny coincidence that the rumors of Ted Cruz came out right after we made a compelling argument about it being mittens
by Anonymous | reply 40 | October 7, 2021 3:17 AM |
As usual, the butler did it.
by Anonymous | reply 41 | October 7, 2021 3:47 AM |
I can't believe that he was still alive up until 2018!
He may have been sitting behind you when you went to see Zodiac in the theater in 2007. Just think about that for a second, especially if you live in the SF Bay area.
by Anonymous | reply 42 | October 7, 2021 3:59 AM |
It wasn’t Poste anyway, R42, so disregard.
by Anonymous | reply 43 | October 7, 2021 4:01 AM |
Bullshit!
by Anonymous | reply 44 | October 7, 2021 4:02 AM |
I think it’s him. It sucks that he is already dead 😡
by Anonymous | reply 45 | October 7, 2021 4:04 AM |
And why do you think it’s him, R45?
by Anonymous | reply 46 | October 7, 2021 4:05 AM |
OMG it's Noel Casler
by Anonymous | reply 47 | October 7, 2021 4:06 AM |
Half a century later.
by Anonymous | reply 48 | October 7, 2021 4:49 AM |
The local SF news stations had a few snippets of Tom Colbert from the Case Breakers tonight. Thankfully, they kept it to a minimum. He reeks of OAN and CreateSpace.
Zodiac - solved!
Atlanta child murders - solved!
D.B. Cooper - solved!
Jimmy Hoffa’s grave - found!
I have no doubt this Zodiac thing will become a docuseries on some little-known streaming platform.
by Anonymous | reply 49 | October 7, 2021 5:12 AM |
[quote]And I am unanimous in that!
No you’re not, silly. You signed your name.
by Anonymous | reply 50 | October 7, 2021 11:33 AM |
I still think "Joseph Newton Chandler" could have been the Zodiac Killer.
by Anonymous | reply 51 | October 7, 2021 11:42 AM |
If you were the Zodiac killer wouldn’t you leave a posthumous confession so you could be immortal? Of course you would. Ergo, the Zodiac still lives!
by Anonymous | reply 52 | October 7, 2021 5:18 PM |
I still think it was Angela Lansbury.
by Anonymous | reply 53 | October 7, 2021 5:49 PM |
What makes you think that guy was Zodiac, R51?
by Anonymous | reply 54 | October 7, 2021 5:49 PM |
It is possible to kill a few people then stop
by Anonymous | reply 55 | October 7, 2021 6:04 PM |
[quote] [R21], the Zodiac nuts remind me of the people who come out of the woodwork every few years to accuse some dead, famous Victorian guy of being Jack the Ripper.
Well, I solved the Ripper mystery, so there will be no more of those obsessed nuts anymore.
CASE. CLOSED.
by Anonymous | reply 56 | October 7, 2021 6:09 PM |
Who was Gary Francis Poste? He reportedly had a wife and at least one son.
The man named by the Case Breakers was married to Mary Poste, and had at least one son. He reportedly worked for years as a house painter after serving time in the United States Air Force. He lived in Groveland, Calif.
In 2016, Poste was arrested for domestic battery against his wife. A mugshot was taken following his arrest, which has been circulating online.
Poste's widow is currently residing in an assisted living facility, according to The Daily Mail.
Other details about Poste's personal life are currently unknown to the public.
Gary Francis Poste died at the age of 80 in 2018.
According to a death certificate obtained by TMZ, Gary Poste passed away in August 2018 from vascular dementia, sepsis, septic shock, and dysphagia.
The certificate also reportedly noted that Poste was suffering from osteoporosis, atrial fibrillation, hypertension, and hypothyroidism at the time of his death.
The 80-year-old died in Groveland, and it is important to note that he was never charged with any of the crimes related to the Zodiac killer.
by Anonymous | reply 57 | October 7, 2021 6:13 PM |
He clearly was not the Zodiac.
by Anonymous | reply 58 | October 7, 2021 6:17 PM |
[quote] —Robert Poste's Child
LOL--that's what I keep thinking about when reading this thread too!
"I'll not deny ye your rights, Robert Poste's child!"
by Anonymous | reply 59 | October 7, 2021 6:19 PM |
[quote] According to a death certificate obtained by TMZ, Gary Poste passed away in August 2018 from vascular dementia, sepsis, septic shock, and dysphagia.
[quote]The certificate also reportedly noted that Poste was suffering from osteoporosis, atrial fibrillation, hypertension, and hypothyroidism at the time of his death.
OMG--I have all those things too!
PLUS OCD and fibromyalgia!
by Anonymous | reply 60 | October 7, 2021 6:21 PM |
Tom Voigt, one of the foremost experts on the case, who also runs the zodiackiller.com website, gave this interview to Rolling Stone last night.
[quote] ‘Hot Garbage’: Zodiac Expert Calls ‘Bullshit’ on Possible ID of Infamous Serial Killer
[quote]Zodiac Killer: Just the Facts author Tom Voigt tells us why the new report about Zodiac Killer’s identity is “completely bogus”
[quote]Despite what you may have read today in the news, the Zodiac Killer has not been identified. That’s according to an expert on the infamous, still-unknown serial killer who murdered at least five people in northern California in the late-Sixties.
[quote] Earlier today, a team of cold case investigators announced, via press release, that a now-deceased man named Gary Francis Poste was the Zodiac Killer. Among the evidence: a furrowed brow on the sketch artist’s drawing that matches Poste’s forehead scarring; an allegation that one of the Zodiac’s mysterious ciphers could be unlocked using Poste’s full name; and claims that Poste perhaps killed a waitress named Cheri Jo Bates, an assumed-but-not-definite Zodiac victim.
[quote]The story was picked up by Fox News and spread quickly. Social media made jokes, noting that investigators had figured out who the Zodiac Killer was before they managed to track down Gabby Petito’s missing boyfriend (and person of interest in her death) Brian Laundrie. However, for Tom Voigt, operator of ZodiacKiller.com and author of Zodiac Killer: Just the Facts, the news of the ID itself was “completely bogus” and “hot garbage.”
[quote]Rolling Stone spoke to Voigt on Wednesday about the bombshell report and why, in his opinion, it’s “bullshit.”
[quote] You have been researching the Zodiac Killer for 25 years, what got you into the mystery?
[quote]My father was an investigative reporter in Southern California, 1960s. He was a reporter for the Los Angeles Herald Examiner, which was the newspaper that the Black Dahlia Avenger wrote his letters to. That’s what I grew up hearing about and seeing, and all the craziness in Southern California at the time, and the Zodiac was part of that.
[quote]By now obviously you’ve seen the news about the Zodiac Killer’s identification. What’s your take on it?
[quote]Yeah, I’ve got about a million people on my website right now. It’s all bullshit, by the way, just to get that out of the way. This is hot garbage. I don’t know why it got any coverage at all. It was basically a press release.
[quote]Are you familiar with the Case Breakers?
[quote]First of all, the funny thing is, I’ve never heard of any of these people that are these so-called experts. I have been doing this for 25 years and I’ve never heard of any of them. So that there are some red flags right off the bat. And then the funny thing is, they’re matching up lines on foreheads. No witness ever described lines on Zodiac’s forehead. Those lines were simply added by the sketch artist to fill in the sketch. The amended sketch, which is supposed to look more like Zodiac, according to witnesses, doesn’t really even have any lines. So they got rid of them. So because the witnesses were like, “We’re not really happy with that sketch that we gave you a few days ago,” they got changed. The lines went away. No witness ever described that.
by Anonymous | reply 61 | October 7, 2021 6:21 PM |
Anyone else think that pic in OP’s post looks like Michael J. Fox?
by Anonymous | reply 62 | October 7, 2021 6:24 PM |
SFPD is disputing the findings re the identity of the killer. They say it’s contrary to the known evidence they’ve collected. Seems like just a PR stunt.
by Anonymous | reply 63 | October 7, 2021 6:24 PM |
Tom Voigt (ZodiacKiller.com) RS interview cont.:
[quote] What about their claim that Poste’s name unlocks one of the Zodiac’s ciphers?
[quote]A lot of what they’re typing and talking about is nonsense. These people, what I’ve seen, they don’t really have any kind of a command of the basics of the Zodiac case. From what I’ve read, they’ve gotten their Zodiac information from the comments section at Facebook. They’d skip the main article and they went right to the comments and they think they know everything about this. Maybe they’ve saw the Fincher movie, but probably not. Or, they turned it off after the two-hour mark or so.
[quote]Why do you think Fox News picked up the story?
[quote]It was probably some overnight intern that didn’t read the press release carefully, didn’t realize it was just a publicity thing, and threw it in the news feed. And then other people thought, “Well, this must be legit, it’s on Fox News.” And so they started recycling. And it’s so funny because there’s not even one person who has had any trouble seeing through this for what it is.
[quote]I read on Reddit that this same group of investigators also looked into the D.B. Cooper case a while back.
[quote]They went all-in on that and it blew up in their face. [They accused Robert Rackstraw], but he’s a super-prominent suspect.
[quote] I know that your site has a list of suspects. Obviously there’s Arthur Lee Allen and Rick Marshall. Even the Wikipedia page has an extensive list of suspects. Was Poste ever on your radar in any way? Have you ever even heard of this guy?
[quote]I wouldn’t even call him a suspect. I don’t think he checks any boxes whatsoever. In fact, if he does have scars on his forehead, that’s a really fucking good reason to rule him out.
[quote]The heart of their argument is that Poste maybe killed this possible Zodiac victim Cheri Jo Bates. Do you think that Bates was killed by the Zodiac?
[quote]I do believe so. The original task force in November 1969, the Zodiac detectives and the Riverside Police, got together had a meeting and determined through sharing evidence that Zodiac was absolutely responsible for the murder. That’s what they determined, and that’s what I believe.
[quote]So let’s say hypothetically this team of investigators somehow tie Poste to the Bates murder. Does that eliminate Bates as a Zodiac victim? Or does it kind of open the door for him to maybe possibly be Zodiac?
[quote]It’s possible any of the victims that have been linked to Zodiac, that somebody else may have killed them and the copycats had taken responsibility. It’s a hypothetical question so I have a hard time with it. The [Gary Poste] case they’ve presented in public is probably one of the weakest I think I’ve ever seen against any so-called suspect. You know, I’ve had people honestly contact me thinking Clint Eastwood was Zodiac, L. Ron Hubbard was the Zodiac. People that thought that Bill Russell, the basketball player, seven foot tall, black guy. They were serious and they had a whole team. They had a whole laundry list of reasons why Bill Russell was the Zodiac. I would put Gary Poste down there with Bill Russell as being one of the worst suspects I’ve ever seen.
[quote]If you had to put your money on one suspect, who would it be?
[quote]Richard Gaikowski is my best bet. If I was if I was an employer looking to hire the Zodiac, he’d probably have the most impressive résumé in my eyes. But the reality is that Allen is the suspect you just can’t quit. I just can’t quit that “Big Al,” especially now I’m going over all these old emails and tips and leads going back 25 years. And some of the stuff that was that was said to me about about how it is just mind boggling. Yeah. If he wasn’t, if he wasn’t the Zodiac, he might be responsible for some other murders.
by Anonymous | reply 64 | October 7, 2021 6:25 PM |
ALLEGED ZODIAC KILLER OBSESSION WITH SLAUGHTERING ANIMALS
by Anonymous | reply 65 | October 8, 2021 1:08 AM |
These people have less than zero credibility.
by Anonymous | reply 66 | October 8, 2021 1:19 AM |
I don't see anything wrong in the mercy killing of a mangy dog who is set to attack.
by Anonymous | reply 67 | October 8, 2021 1:22 AM |
The Case Breakers' mastermind appears, in all his pumpkin-spice splendor, at 00:30.
He has evidence that is "out the kazoo." In other words, noise and hot air.
by Anonymous | reply 68 | October 8, 2021 1:33 AM |
r65, if being a hunter made you a serial killer then 90% of redneck dudes would be serial killers
by Anonymous | reply 69 | October 8, 2021 1:33 AM |
[quote] Tom Voigt, one of the foremost experts on the case, who also runs the zodiackiller.com website
Yea that was the site I went down the rabbit hole with. Can't even remember what I thought of Voigt but there were some people commenting on his site that larped as an expert in this or that field and were taken seriously and then turn out to be full of shit. LOL! I think he tried to control that to some degree.
by Anonymous | reply 70 | October 8, 2021 1:49 AM |
I don't think we'll ever know so many years later........
by Anonymous | reply 71 | October 8, 2021 4:03 AM |
BUMP
by Anonymous | reply 73 | October 27, 2021 7:28 AM |