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Andrew Garfield is Jonathan Larson in the new movie “tick, tick… BOOM”

Jonathan Larson was the man who gifted us with the musical RENT. This looks incredible, and Garfield is perfectly cast.

We are going to be able to watch the birth of Rent!!!

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by Anonymousreply 124November 28, 2021 6:12 PM

Isn't he the actor who keeps insisting he isn't gay?

by Anonymousreply 1October 4, 2021 4:41 PM

God fucking dammit. Are there no gay actors?

by Anonymousreply 2October 4, 2021 4:45 PM

It's certain to succeed at the box office! Another huge surefire hit in the vein of "Dear Evan Hansen" and "In the Heights"!

by Anonymousreply 3October 4, 2021 4:48 PM

Does it matter? He’s acting.

by Anonymousreply 4October 4, 2021 4:48 PM

This one does not look like Box Office bait, it looks like Oscar bait

by Anonymousreply 5October 4, 2021 4:49 PM

Was Larson gay?

by Anonymousreply 6October 4, 2021 4:50 PM

I guess he was straight. Could've sworn he was gay R6

by Anonymousreply 7October 4, 2021 4:54 PM

He was straight. He liked to write about the social issues of multiculturalism, addiction, and homophobia in his work. He witnessed all of that happen to people around him (or himself, as he was Jewish) and wrote about it.

by Anonymousreply 8October 4, 2021 4:57 PM

This Reddit thread pretty much sums up what I thought. Though I didn't really assume he died of AIDS

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by Anonymousreply 9October 4, 2021 5:00 PM

Will Garfield get an Oscar nomination out of this?

by Anonymousreply 10October 4, 2021 5:07 PM

My impression is that most DLers hate Rent. Am I correct in assuming this?

by Anonymousreply 11October 4, 2021 6:20 PM

I did!

by Anonymousreply 12October 4, 2021 6:25 PM

RENT ruined Broadway. "Rock" musicals are shit.

by Anonymousreply 13October 4, 2021 6:27 PM

All the gay roles go to straights. That is so fucked up. Just don’t see it.

by Anonymousreply 14October 4, 2021 6:29 PM

R6 Nope, and his sister seems to get really pissy that people think he was. Also, she gets pissy over people thinking he has AIDS. Guess she only wants people to think he (would've) profited from those things, rather than actually be them.

Anyone know who Richard Kind is supposed to be?

by Anonymousreply 15October 4, 2021 7:55 PM

R11 and so they should. This video does a great job at summing up why.

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by Anonymousreply 16October 4, 2021 7:57 PM

R9 Christ, the OP of that thread seems so tedious. No, it can't be that little miss perfect assumed something incorrectly, NO, it must be that she was FED LIES!

by Anonymousreply 17October 4, 2021 8:03 PM

I can’t wait to watch this.

I’ve always loved Rent. DL bitches about it but that show saved Broadway.

by Anonymousreply 18October 4, 2021 8:32 PM

I never saw Rent on Broadway. Thought I was missing out. Hah!

by Anonymousreply 19October 4, 2021 8:34 PM

He is cute, but he's also an insufferable, obnoxious closet-case.

by Anonymousreply 20October 4, 2021 8:39 PM

Will they ever stop putting this uggo in everything?

by Anonymousreply 21October 4, 2021 8:41 PM
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by Anonymousreply 22October 4, 2021 10:38 PM

R15: Jonathan Larsen "profited" off of AIDS because one of the characters in his hit musical has the disease? Wow, you are really fucking stupid and twisted. You have a very sad, dark view of the world around you. Seek help, it's not too late.

by Anonymousreply 23October 4, 2021 10:41 PM

He lost tons of friends to AIDS. Tons.

by Anonymousreply 24October 4, 2021 10:44 PM

R23 One of them? I'm guessing you've never actually seen Rent?

R24 And yet still he wrote that shallow piece of shit.

by Anonymousreply 25October 4, 2021 11:04 PM

I disliked Rent by in 1995 for some reason.

by Anonymousreply 26October 4, 2021 11:15 PM

1995 it wasn’t on Broadway yet and didn’t have the music.

by Anonymousreply 27October 4, 2021 11:16 PM

I disliked it in 1996.

by Anonymousreply 28October 4, 2021 11:17 PM

One r23?! Half of the cast of RENT has HIV. HIV is a major, major theme of the show.

by Anonymousreply 29October 4, 2021 11:20 PM

You didn’t even see it. You’re just saying years.

by Anonymousreply 30October 4, 2021 11:20 PM

I was going off memory. 95/96 - whatever.

by Anonymousreply 31October 4, 2021 11:21 PM

[quote] My impression is that most DLers hate Rent. Am I correct in assuming this?

No, it’s just some eldergay theater queens who are set in their ways and say rock shouldn’t be on Broadway. Whatever.

by Anonymousreply 32October 10, 2021 12:50 PM

Garfield was only gay when he was Spiderman.

And in the Social Network, of course. I still say they should have left in the scene where he was sucking off Jesse Eisenberg. It would have sold the later "I was your only friend" scene better.

by Anonymousreply 33October 10, 2021 1:05 PM

I can’t wait to watch this.

by Anonymousreply 34November 12, 2021 2:16 AM

Same here, R34. It's one of the few things on my must-see list for the holiday season.

by Anonymousreply 35November 12, 2021 2:27 AM

Why?

by Anonymousreply 36November 12, 2021 2:29 AM

R36 why what?

by Anonymousreply 37November 13, 2021 2:34 AM

Why the film might be on your must-see list:

Rottentomatoes (Tick Tick....Boom currently 88% fresh, 80% audience score)

[quote] Andrew Garfield is sublime

[quote] Boisterous and messy, exhausting but alive, tick, tick... BOOM! is a joyful party for musical theater fans. It really goes for it.

[quote] Larson is a perfect role for Garfield, who does the best work of his career.

[quote] Lin-Manuel Miranda, as it turns out, can compose "Hamilton" and direct great movies.

more at link

(On Netflix November 19th)

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by Anonymousreply 38November 13, 2021 5:25 AM

Andrew Garfield sings, "Why" from "Tick, Tick... Boom!"

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by Anonymousreply 39November 19, 2021 3:10 AM

Never seen the show and not interested.

by Anonymousreply 40November 19, 2021 3:25 AM

Here's an actual scene from the movie featuring Andrew singing. Did you think that Andrew could do this? Judging from some of this interviews about this project, I don't think Andrew thought he could do this.

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by Anonymousreply 41November 20, 2021 4:08 AM

Andrew is amazing in this part and the film is good, for a musical.

by Anonymousreply 42November 20, 2021 3:23 PM

So, is there not an actual thread to discuss it? Is it all being done on the theatre thread?

by Anonymousreply 43November 20, 2021 10:32 PM

It’s being discussed here

by Anonymousreply 44November 20, 2021 10:47 PM

Wow! Just watched and LOVED it!! Beautifully performed, directed, and filmed.

My life is so wrapped up in that time. I moved to NYC in 1995, and Jonathan Larson died within a year. Rent became huge of course. AIDS had finally gotten treatments. I came out of the closet in 2000 and went with in a date to see the off-Bway production to Tick.. Tick..Boom in 2000-ish. This brought back so many great memories.

I loved Andrew Garfield—what a actor! Good singer but no one can replace the amazing Raul Esparza in my mind. When I saw him perform in the stage production, he literally blew my mind. I remember thinking Where did this guy come from?!

Watch it on Netflix. It’s wonderful. Thanks to LLM for bringing it to the screen. The diner scene alone a every Bway queen’s wet dream.

by Anonymousreply 45November 21, 2021 3:08 AM

R45, I just watched it, too, and agree that Andrew Garfield is fantastic. He 100% deserves to be nominated for this performance.

by Anonymousreply 46November 21, 2021 3:51 AM

Nominated for what?

by Anonymousreply 47November 21, 2021 3:52 AM

Wasn’t he a chub who died of a heart attack, like Mama Cass?

by Anonymousreply 48November 21, 2021 3:54 AM

Well, he won’t get nominated if he died.

by Anonymousreply 49November 21, 2021 3:55 AM

I’m looking at pictures of him. I could have sworn he was a fatty.

by Anonymousreply 50November 21, 2021 3:57 AM

He was never fat.

by Anonymousreply 51November 21, 2021 4:06 AM

Are you thinking of Frank Wildhorn?

by Anonymousreply 52November 21, 2021 4:07 AM

Larson died from an embolism. I know someone who died young from this in a similarly random fashion. It’s like the hand of god just comes down and snatches the person away for no reason. Awful.

Garfield was fantastic in this but I wish they had made a film about Larson actually writing Rent and his death, not this film.

by Anonymousreply 53November 21, 2021 4:11 AM

This is (long but interesting) journal article about what killed him, theorizing it was aortic dissection from undiagnosed Marfan syndrome. But it also details the complete fuck up by medical personnel in not giving him help even though he went to the ER three different times.

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by Anonymousreply 54November 21, 2021 4:17 AM

So, not fat?

by Anonymousreply 55November 21, 2021 4:22 AM

Certainly not by now.

by Anonymousreply 56November 21, 2021 4:36 AM

I can't look at Garfield. He looks like the child of Sandra Bernhard and Michael "Kramer" Richards.

by Anonymousreply 57November 21, 2021 4:39 AM

I wonder if the bad medical care and his family’s lawsuit over it explain why no one’s made a full biopic of him—maybe his family is barred from talking about it or selling the rights to a project about it.

by Anonymousreply 58November 21, 2021 4:39 AM

[quote] When I saw him perform in the stage production, he literally blew my mind.

Then how do you manage to still breathe, much less type?

by Anonymousreply 59November 21, 2021 4:43 AM

He sho is ugly. I get him and Tom Holland mixed up.

by Anonymousreply 60November 21, 2021 4:59 AM

My friend was a resident at St Vincents during that time and was actually doing an ER rotation. He was not working the day Larson came in. Apparently, the radiologist on call when Larson came to the ER didn’t note the aortic dissection. When it was re-reviewed (likely after Larson’s death), the regular radiologist saw it immediately.

by Anonymousreply 61November 21, 2021 5:05 AM

[quote] or selling the rights to a project about it.

His estate will anything to keep the marrow of his rotting bones alive. 'Rent' exemplifies the worst of 'new' Broadway, and Larsen the plagiarist dying was his best career move.

by Anonymousreply 62November 21, 2021 5:14 AM

R62, Rent is great. The tunes are wonderful and it’s compelling understandable why it became such a cultural phenomenon.

by Anonymousreply 63November 21, 2021 1:06 PM

R63, shouting her teen accolades from the TKTS steps in Time Square for her TikTok video.

It became a "cultural phenomenon" because of a massive corporate PR campaign, ninny. The dual-appropriated story line, blaring rock score and parasitic grab of East Village poverty culture was made palatable for tourists and midwestern theatre students who still romanticize a difficult era in urban life. It's glossy loud treacle for dumb people.

by Anonymousreply 64November 21, 2021 9:58 PM

R64 has never actually seen RENT

by Anonymousreply 65November 21, 2021 9:59 PM

[Quote] The dual-appropriated story line, blaring rock score and parasitic grab of East Village poverty culture was made palatable for tourists and midwestern theatre students who still romanticize a difficult era in urban life

Um, what musical doesn’t romanticize life? That’s the whole point of musicals

by Anonymousreply 66November 21, 2021 10:01 PM

R65, actually I endured it twice, ninny. I've also seen 100s more better shows.

Yes, R66, musical = romanticized life. But Larsen's near-plagiarism of Schulman's novel is despicable.

The frequent threads about this over-praised musical prove the vapidity of the average DLer, who has seen few other musicals and has no breadth of knowledge about the subject, yet like the fools in this thread, maintain an almost feverish devotion to 'Rent' that verges on cultlike dementia.

by Anonymousreply 67November 21, 2021 10:06 PM

Rent was brilliant, raw, real, deep and heartfelt. It was new and fresh. I loved it.

by Anonymousreply 68November 21, 2021 10:11 PM

R68 reviews McDonald's food on Yelp with the same guileless enthusiasm.

by Anonymousreply 69November 21, 2021 10:47 PM

When Lin played Jonathan---

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by Anonymousreply 70November 21, 2021 10:52 PM

When Raul played Jonathan---

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by Anonymousreply 71November 21, 2021 10:53 PM

I hated RENT.

There's not one likable character and they're all self-infatuated drama queens. Some of the music is lively, but it too is so self-impressed it doesn't need you to like it. Also NONE of the events in the show make sense as happening anytime after 1983 or '84, yet it is set in 1996. I was there, so don't come for me!

by Anonymousreply 72November 21, 2021 11:45 PM

Larson notoriously stole the story line from Schulman's novel, 'People in Trouble,' and one of many giveaways is the anachronistic inclusion of an AZT pill timer.

I know Schulman, and admire her writing, but I don't like her as a person.

I DESPISE plagiarists, even dead ones.

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by Anonymousreply 73November 21, 2021 11:52 PM

So nice to see people here disparaging Rent, and I’m sorry but Tick Tick Boom is just more dreck as well, most obviously the music doesn’t transcend the time it was made in and should have been left in the past. I hate how they also plagiarized that building opening from Hedwig and the Angry Inch, one assumes Stephen Trask didn’t know they were doing that when he appeared in an earlier cameo.

by Anonymousreply 74November 22, 2021 12:00 AM

If Larson hadn't died there would be no praises for "Rent."

by Anonymousreply 75November 22, 2021 12:06 AM

R68 and yet despite the hype it received when it opened spawned largely by the death of Jonathan Larsen, it's never been revived on Broadway since. Unlike Chicago, Gypsy, West Side Story, Cabaret, Fiddler on the Roof . . . which are frequently revived, I don't think the over rated Rent.

by Anonymousreply 76November 22, 2021 12:27 AM

None of those shows ran as long as RENT in their original runs. Hardly comparable.

by Anonymousreply 77November 22, 2021 12:31 AM

Rent is the longest running musical ever. That’s why it hasn’t been revived yet.

They’re doing a reunion tour.

by Anonymousreply 78November 22, 2021 12:31 AM

R77 R78 It can be seen at the Count Basie Playhouse in Red Bank NJ!

by Anonymousreply 79November 22, 2021 12:47 AM

The film version tanked and none of the songs have become standards.

by Anonymousreply 80November 22, 2021 1:00 AM

No one wanted to see a film version and the recasting of two of the originals (both the female POC) was trashed, while the fact the originals were cast to begin with was trashed because they were too old to play early 20s by then.

Some songs/acts were cut for the film and some stuff rearranged.

A lot of the choices didn’t go over well with fans.

by Anonymousreply 81November 22, 2021 1:03 AM

I saw "Rent" at NYTW when it hadn't officially been announced to transfer but the reviews had hit. I lucked out and got the last cancellation seat when I was visiting over Spring Break my senior year of college 1996. It was really exciting, there really wasn't anything else quite like it. For someone accustomed to the glitz of Broadway even with stuff like "Tommy" to see something so stripped down and contemporary without all the bells and whistles was very cool. The cast was on fire and it's clear why so many of them have had careers.

Nowadays it feels kind of trite and simplistic but at the time it really was something new and different and would have been just as big a deal even without Larson dying. The NYT was already onboard and was going to push it no matter what. Obviously it was a much bigger deal with the tragedy but it would have been a hit regardless and likely transferred and there still would have been all that controversy of old-vs-new with "Big" and "Victor/Victoria" and "State Fair" all getting snubbed while "Rent" and "Noise/Funk" were suddenly the future of theatre. I think it still would have happened with Larson around.

I saw TTB in previews and liked it but the competition among my social media feed to have the most over-the-top reaction ("I started crying as soon as I touched the Netflix icon on my phone and still haven't stopped, three days later I literally saw God!") has already prejudiced me against it. But watching a number of my colleagues realizing that they didn't get cameos when virtually everyone else on Broadway did has been kind of fun.

by Anonymousreply 82November 22, 2021 1:35 AM

[quote] Also NONE of the events in the show make sense as happening anytime after 1983 or '84, yet it is set in 1996. I was there, so don't come for me!

It was not set in 1996, idiot. So yes, we’re coming for you.

by Anonymousreply 83November 22, 2021 4:10 AM

More proof he didn’t watch the show r83. He’s just making shit up, like he does all over this site.

by Anonymousreply 84November 22, 2021 4:18 AM

r57 can't unsee ...

by Anonymousreply 85November 22, 2021 4:22 AM

Larson notoriously stole the story line from Schulman's novel, 'People in Trouble,' and one of many giveaways is the anachronistic inclusion of an AZT pill timer.

So a lesbian wrote Puccini’s beloved opera La Bohème?

by Anonymousreply 86November 22, 2021 4:25 AM

The only reason I would see this is the time capsule, but there are better places to go for 90's nostalgia.. like actual 90's movies.

by Anonymousreply 87November 22, 2021 4:29 AM

I first saw RENT from the Balcony. The sound system in the theatre wasn’t so great and it didn’t make much of an impression, except that it was loud.

The next time I saw it was from House Seats . Up close, RENT is glorious.

by Anonymousreply 88November 22, 2021 4:34 AM

While RENT hasn’t had a Bway revival, it had an off Bway revival.

by Anonymousreply 89November 22, 2021 4:34 AM

R86, Larsen combined 'La Bohéme' with 'People in Trouble.'

It's the only clever thing about the script.

by Anonymousreply 90November 22, 2021 5:47 AM

Having read the article at R73's link, one thing I know for sure is that if Susan Schulman had written a musical people would have been fleeing for the doors after ten minutes. I don't blame her for being annoyed if she thinks Larson ripped her off (though she ignores all questions about La Boheme), but she makes humorlessness an art form.

by Anonymousreply 91November 22, 2021 7:01 AM

Andrew is brilliant in this, loved the show

by Anonymousreply 92November 22, 2021 1:56 PM

Can't imagine Raul Esperza in this role. Not a fan.

by Anonymousreply 93November 22, 2021 3:55 PM

[quote] if Susan Schulman had written a musical

R91's attempt to be clever pairs nicely with his stupidity.

by Anonymousreply 94November 22, 2021 4:50 PM

Looks horrid

by Anonymousreply 95November 22, 2021 5:06 PM

This is one good tearjerker and Andrew is terrific in this.

by Anonymousreply 96November 22, 2021 5:10 PM

Well, I’m glad someone is getting jerked.

by Anonymousreply 97November 22, 2021 5:13 PM

[quote] Can't imagine Raul Esperza in this role. Not a fan.

20 years ago, Raul was at his peak as a musical actor with a voice that soared amazingly. He was stunning in this role.

by Anonymousreply 98November 22, 2021 6:10 PM

Oh, please. That goat vibrato is a crime.

by Anonymousreply 99November 22, 2021 6:13 PM

He didn't have a wide vibrato back then. Check out the original cast album of Tick Tick Boom

by Anonymousreply 100November 22, 2021 6:19 PM

[quote] 20 years ago, Raul was at his peak as a musical actor with a voice that soared amazingly. He was stunning in this role.

20 years ago? Oh please, how many of us were even born back then?

by Anonymousreply 101November 22, 2021 6:36 PM

R95 did you expect anything less from Lin Manuel Miranda?

by Anonymousreply 102November 22, 2021 6:54 PM

R78 Longer running than the Phantom of the Opera and The Lion King?

by Anonymousreply 103November 22, 2021 7:28 PM

[quote] 20 years ago? Oh please, how many of us were even born back then?

On THIS site? Oh, honey.

by Anonymousreply 104November 22, 2021 7:40 PM

[quote] 20 years ago? Oh please, how many of us were even born back then?

Oh please. Most of you were in your 60's by that point

by Anonymousreply 105November 22, 2021 7:42 PM

The premise is so uninteresting to me I cannot imagine seeing this.

I think you'd have to think "Rent" was a work of genius to find this story appealing, and I do not think it was at all.

by Anonymousreply 106November 22, 2021 7:44 PM

R106, wow, so much conjecture. You've never actually seen Rent, have you?

by Anonymousreply 107November 22, 2021 7:49 PM

Of course I've seen it, r107. I saw it on Broadway during the original run. It's just okay.

by Anonymousreply 108November 22, 2021 7:55 PM

p.s.--speaking of "wow, so much conjecture"... I guess you failed at yours.

by Anonymousreply 109November 22, 2021 7:56 PM

I watched it thinking it was about the creation of Rent. Boy, was I confused.

by Anonymousreply 110November 22, 2021 7:59 PM

I wonder if this one is bombing viewership-wise. I know DL isn't really a gauge of the real public but usually posts don't stop within 2 days of a premiere. Plus they only hit 110, with some additional comments on the theatre threads

by Anonymousreply 111November 23, 2021 4:28 PM

Any Andrew nudity?

by Anonymousreply 112November 23, 2021 4:32 PM

I notice lots of shot armpit hair if you like that sort of thing. Many underwater shots of him swimming

by Anonymousreply 113November 23, 2021 4:34 PM

[quote] I wonder if this one is bombing viewership-wise.

It's not really known outside of the theatre-loving community so it doesn't have a huge built in audience

by Anonymousreply 114November 23, 2021 4:45 PM

[quote] Any Andrew nudity?

Just cock, no hole.

by Anonymousreply 115November 23, 2021 6:37 PM

As R54 notes, Larson did not die of an embolism or a heart attack—he suffered an aortic dissection from an aneurysm in his aorta, which is typically a death sentence for most people unless it's caught swiftly and the person is rushed into surgery. When an aortic dissection is diagnosed promptly and surgical intervention is undertaken immediately, the survival rate is pretty high (around 95%). The sad part is that Larson would have most likely lived if it had been noticed when he was first hospitalized.

I myself had an aortic aneurysm resulting from an inefficient bicuspid aortic heart valve–my valve issue was diagnosed in childhood, but the aneurysm developed concurrently as I went into adulthood. I had to have open-heart surgery when I was 29 to fix both problems, mainly because the aneurysm had ballooned to a point that was too dangerous. Aortic dissections are common in people with Marfan syndrome, which is a genetic disorder (also noted by R54) with a whole host of symptoms, one of which is weakening/aneurysms of the arteries (thus resulting in dissection). It is strangely prophetic that Larson wrote a musical called "Tick, Tick... Boom!", given that aortic aneurysms are often described as ticking time bombs.

by Anonymousreply 116November 24, 2021 4:21 AM

r115 There's cock?

by Anonymousreply 117November 24, 2021 4:28 AM

Just saw it. Andrew Garfield is mostly terrific, especially when he's supposed to be buoyant or nervous. He's not good, though, when he's supposed to be anguished--he does the same thing Lin-Manuel Miranda does when he plays anguished in "Hamilton," which is to put fake little insincere gasps into his lines. (I would guess Miranda directed him to do this.) But I was surprised what a fine singer Garfield is, and how sexy he is (although he always seemed gay--he had far more chemistry with Jonathan Larson's gay best friend than with his girlfriend). He has a great ass.

I didn't know the score but there are two really fine songs in it, "Boho Days" and "Therapy" (which reminds me a lot of songs from "Cabaret"). The big anthemic song at the end, "Why?", is okay, but I would guess if thre's anything like a favorite song from this it would be that one. It's very shallow, though.

The big problem with the show is that the story is ultimately not very interesting. I think it only found success after Larson died because the whole show (referenced in the title) is about his anxiety he's going to turn thirty and not be a success, and it's pretty impossible to care about that--but of course if you know he's going to die at 35 and doesn't know it, his anxiety about running out of time adds much more dimension to the whole thing.

by Anonymousreply 118November 27, 2021 6:32 AM

Since I didn't know the show, the meta-song "Sunday"--based on Stephen Sondhiem's "Sunday," but about a waiter at a diner complaining about Sunday brunch in the meat-Packing District--was sort of surprising: there were a zillion famous Broadway stars appear in the number as diner customers, and so you send the whole number saying "Isn't that...?"

There's also a number of other famous musical theater stars (or even famous supporting players like Danielle Ferland from "Sunday in the Park" and "Into the Woods") who appear in cameos in other scenes.

by Anonymousreply 119November 27, 2021 7:09 AM

[Quote] famous Broadway stars

A contradiction in terms.

by Anonymousreply 120November 27, 2021 7:11 AM

R119 According to Wikipedia, the Moondance Diner was in SoHo, not The Meatpacking District. Everyone knows the great Meatpacking Diner was Florent.

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by Anonymousreply 121November 27, 2021 10:04 AM

[quote] Everyone knows the great Meatpacking Diner was Florent.

"everyone"....

by Anonymousreply 122November 27, 2021 6:12 PM

R122 Yes everyone, it’s where the blue collar workers, truckers, prostitutes, Gays, Trannys (as they weee called in the day) all came together to eat at three in the morning surrounded by the beautiful designs of M & Company, all under the watchful eye of its French owner Florent. Obviously, Larson was not cool enough to work there.

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by Anonymousreply 123November 27, 2021 6:22 PM

Garfield was good but he the definition of a banana head

by Anonymousreply 124November 28, 2021 6:12 PM
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