What is the best sequel to “Psycho”?

I believe critics were kinder to III than II, but I found II to be the better film.

IV shouldn’t exist.

All of them are tacky. I refuse to watch them.

II is really great. Way better than it should be and III is really entertaining as well. IV is fine, but definitely my least favorite. For a franchise that never needed to exist, none of them bother me much. There's usually at least one or two sequels in every horror franchise that are downright awful, but none of the Psycho sequels are that bad.

R2 is the exact type of person the Director and writer knew they would deal with when making II.

R3 agree that II was a lot better than it ever should have been. A sequel to a massively beloved film like Psycho, which was already considered a classic 22 years later was never supposed to be good. But it was.

II has a lot of great shots that are creepy, like when you see Norman’s tall skinny silhouette standing at the top of the steps by mother’s house at the end, or mother showing up, walking up the stairs at the end… they did good.

[quote]Maybe her career would have been bigger if she didn’t act like a brat.

I never heard Meg Tilly was a brat. She seems quite sweet on her youtube channel. She was an interesting actress. I think she's quite good in this and really nailed the performance in Agnes of God.

(she's also really good in the umpteenth remake of Invasion of the Body Snatchers.)

I could watch the shovel scene in 2 on an endless loop. Amazing scene!

R6 supposedly she was upset that Perkins was getting treated better than her while filming and like more of a star. She didn’t know why he was getting meatier scenes either. This upset Perkins.

She had never seen the original yet either which he didn’t like and made him feel she should be recast.

I loved part 2. It was actually very good

I enjoy Part III more than Part II.

R10 really? Why?

I like how weird, gory and sleazy it is, R11. Part III takes the over-the-top tone of Part II's final scene, and turns it up a couple notches. I also enjoy Norman as a killer much more than as the victim he was in Part II.

Part II wanted to be taken seriously, so it's a very serious, straight-forward, but solid, movie. Part III threw caution to the wind and went crazy.

R12 the writer/Director spoke about why they made II to be the way it was. And they were right to do so.

The Director wanted to make II is B&W also, but the studio refused it. He wanted II to look just like the original to not upset the fans too much (even though he knew many would still be upset this sequel was happening) but the studio said it must be in color.

I always wanted to watch the original in color.

I remember the guy who sneaks in the basement with his girlfriend was good looking.

Meg Tilley was terrific in this, even if I found Mary annoying.

All 3 sequels and the remake are all on Peacock

I am watching II on Peacock right now. It’s surprisingly good.

Vera Miles was terrific in her few scenes in the sequel.

I loved the ending. I always found that shot of him standing at the top of the steps outside the house, where he looks like a tall, long silhouette frightening, yet beautiful. A terrific shot.

I see the sequel has a 60% rating from critics on RT while the audience gave it 55%

The third has 61% from critics while the audience gave it a 29% rating.

The sequels, no matter how good, were doomed from the start. You can’t make a sequel or remake to certain films. They will never be loved by the public.

“Meg Tilly was never allowed to watch any sort of television as a child, and so had never seen the original Psycho (1960) and was unaware of its significance. She didn't understand why the press was giving all the attention to Anthony Perkins for his comeback role in this movie, and one day on the set Perkins overheard her say, "Why is Tony getting all the attention?" Perkins was upset, didn't talk to her during filming, and recommended that she be replaced, even though half of her scenes had already been shot.”

Sounds like she unintentionally offended him.

Meg Tilly has expressed that her worst film experience was working with Anthony Perkins and director Richard Franklin in Psycho II (1983) saying that they were both very difficult to work with. She has also said her best film experience was working with director Norman Jewison and co-stars, Jane Fonda and Anne Bancroft in Agnes of God (1985). Interestingly, both films resulted in Tilly being nominated for several awards, including a Golden Globe and an Oscar (Academy Award).

Actress Meg Tilly did not get along well with either director Richard Franklin or co-star Anthony Perkins. Tilly complained about all the Psycho fans at one point. Perkins, who already wasn't happy with her performance, asked Franklin to fire her. Tilly said it was the worst work experience of her career; and she did not attend the premiere. In spite of this, most critics praised her performance and her chemistry with Perkins.

“I AM NOT ONE OF YOUR….MOTHERS!!!”

Idk how you guys like III. I just watched it and it was fine until the final 20 minutes. What a mess.

IV is even worse. Omg

2 was better but I remember liking 3 too. I also recall jacking off to a shot of Jeff Fahey’s bare ass back in the 80s…was it this film?

Perkins directed III.

They made Perkins change the already filmed ending to 3.

His original pitch for a 4th sounded great. Idk why they didn’t like it and went with what they did, although some people feel the Made for TV 4th film is the best sequel

I like them all except that Bates Motel movie from 1987 with Lori Petty and Bud Cort. Other than the subplot with the woman checking into the motel to commit suicide, I find that one to be completely silly and it's no wonder that it hasn't been mentioned yet. As for Psycho IV, I much prefer the TV show Bates Motel as a portrayal of Norman's teenage years. It is great show. But it's still interesting to watch Psycho IV as a different take on that. Especially all the scenes with Olivia Hussey and Henry Thomas together. CCH Pounder was great as Fran Ambrose as well.

I prefer Gus Van Sant's remake of Psycho II.

I actually really like Psych IV, but that might be in large part because Henry Thomas in his skivvies helped tween me figure some stuff out.

R30 he didn’t make II.

R31 I just finished that one and he is sooooo cute in this. What a hottie.

R29 because that was on NBC and didn’t even have Norman Bates. It was actually a pilot for a series but it did so poorly in ratings that the show was shelved. Years later we got a show that did well though.

Part 3 seemed to get a reevaluation in recent years. I think the reviews were terrible but I preferred it to part 2. Part 3 was an experimental film in a lot of ways and a lot of people just didn't get it.

I wanted to like Bates Motel but they changed too much for me to like it. Also, Freddie Highmore looks Nothing Like Perkins.

Adding siblings etc? No.

It took a while to accept that Bates Motel was going more for Twin Peaks than Psycho.

The remake was doomed from the start. It was seen as unnecessary and unneeded. Add on the casting was terrible etc.

If people never fully accepted the sequels (despite II being a box office hit) they certainly weren’t gonna accept a remake.

Meg recently did a Psycho 2 live watch on her Youtube channel and it was a lot of fun. She watched the entire thing and gave tons of tidbits about the filming as the movie went along, noting things like body doubles used, what it was like working with the actors and even her haircut (which she hated). Robert Loggia was apparently a doll, but Perkins and director Richard Franklin were jerks.

What’s funny is all the actors on the next two sequels had nothing but nice things to say about Perkins.

Vera Miles said that she never got to speak to him during the original film. None of the actors could speak because Hitchcock was so strict and the set was always stressed to make everything perfect for him or you had to keep redoing it and he would get pissed. So on the sequel she was finally able to converse with him on set and she said he was absolutely lovely.

Maybe Meg was the issue. Just because she’s miss sweet now doesn’t mean she was then. She was Hollywood’s “IT” girl from around 1981-1985.

Part of Meg's side of the story was that, during a particular day of watching the dailies, she happened to receive a lot of compliments from the crew about how well she was doing and someone noted that Anthony wasn't doing quite as well, which ticked him off. She has stated that between Perkins' behavior and the director's bullying, she almost quit acting. She didn't even attend the premiere.

She’s full of shit. The Director and Perkins felt she was giving a terrible performance, and had to keep redoing takes because of her. Perkins started being a dick in hopes she would give a more realistic performance. One day he overheard her bitching about all the attention he was getting by the press and media for doing the film instead of her, and it upset him so much he opted for her to be fired despite her filming more than half her scenes already.

Granted she never saw the original and didn’t know how big a deal it was, but still. He wasn’t having it and found her disrespectful.

Meg Tilly acted in Psycho II without ever having watched the original Psycho?

Psycho II, as others have said, is far better than it has any right to be.

I don't know who was in the wrong with Tilly/Perkins, but it's crazy to me that her agents and managers didn't make her watch Psycho or even talk about the significance of the role when she got cast

Bates Motel is a great show when it focuses on Norma and Norman. The town stuff is meh.

R41 yup. see r21 r22 r23

Vera Miles said in interviews that she never really talked to Anthony Perkins during the shooting of the original. She said Hitchcock was so strict and focused, and everyone was bending over backwards to get this stuff right; so no one really had the time or freedom to socialize. But she said when they were shooting the sequel, both she and Anthony Perkins had loosened up; and they had a few conversations together. "He was delightful," she said.

Bates Motel cast Rihanna as Marion. So it sucks.

Spoiler Alert: I enjoyed Bates Motel up until the last season. Having Marion drive off into the sunset felt like a betrayal of the original but even weirder was having Norman die at the end. The show was marketed as a prequel but ended up being a total reimagining and subversion of the original. I still like the series for Vera and Norman's brother but Norman himself wasn't that interesting by the end.

R47 same. I didn’t like it at all. I was upset when I watched it because it was promoted as a prequel to the film but from the start I could tell it was nothing of the sort.

The only good thing in the 1998 remake is how handsome Viggo Mortensen is in it. Him and Julianne Moore are the only good casting choices in it too.

Psycho 2 was the best because its premise was grounded on reality. Yes, Norman would have been found innocent by reason of insanity and yes, he would have been released in 20-25 years time from whatever institution he was placed in. No wonder Marion's sister (Vera Miles) was, er, upset.

As a matter of fact, Viggo was way too hot for Heche in the remake.

Was Heche considered some great beauty and A-Lister the way Janet Leigh was in 1960 to be cast as Marion? I’m confused.

Pretty. And I don’t mean her.

R51 there’s a scene in the remake where he is looking in the motel and he looks so nice and tall with beautiful king legs in his cowboy outfit. Very handsome in this film. Him and Julianne Moore worked well together.

Whoever cast Vince Vaughn as Norman should have been blacklisted from Hollywood.

I know someone who is a mental health professional who thinks Vince Vaughn nailed his performance.

R47 What I found most interesting was how Norman got just a little crazier each season. Season 1 he seems like a normal teenager and Norma is portrayed as the crazier one. But by season 4 they start to switch places and Norma is completely terrified of him. But he still loved her underneath it all. Even when he killed her, he did it in the most loving way possible. He spoke of them moving to Hawaii so her last thoughts would be of hope. Then he waited for her to fall asleep so it would be peaceful and painless.

It’s a lot more than the performance. It’s the look, charm, charisma. Or lack thereof in Vaughn’s case.

In the book Norman is middle aged, short, fat and unkempt, bald with thick glasses. He was a gross slob. Hitchcock knew that wouldn’t work for a film because in real life a woman like Marion would have saw him and either left or stayed but refused to eat with him etc. casting someone who looks like Perkins was genius because no one would look at someone like him and think he would be up to no good, especially back then. He was tall, lean and handsome, as well as charming.

Vince Vaughn isn’t the books version nor Hitchcock’s version. He is meh looking without any charm, charisma or style. I am rewatching it now, with 13 minutes left, and he comes off suspicious throughout.

R55 And he intended to take himself with her, though things didn't quite turn out that way.

[quote] Even when he killed her, he did it in the most loving way possible. He spoke of them moving to Hawaii so her last thoughts would be of hope. Then he waited for her to fall asleep so it would be peaceful and painless.

I didn't like that at all. In the earlier seasons, I would have assumed it was the result of a blackout. The fact that he planned his mother's death completely goes against the character, even as established earlier in the series. Through the course of Bates Motel, he goes from a character you sympathize with to one who you want to see the sheriff take down.

I've never watched any of the sequels, no interest. It would belike watching The Wizard Of Oz II. And after the early 60s, Perkins' baby fat was gone and his sharp features became more gaunt and unattractive. So much so that he could only get creep roles (Mahogany).

R56 I agree. I think all the actors, apart from Vaughn, are much better in the remake but the film just doesn't work. It's an interesting failure for sure.

He was typecast after Psycho r59. He didn’t wanna do 2 because he felt Bates was a curse who destroyed his career. He was known as Norman Bates and nothing more to most and he hated it, despite it making him a huge star. But who wants to be a big star who is known for one role and typecast as a creep?

He ended up embracing it because he loved the script so much and just stuck with it after.

R60 I don’t feel Heche worked either. Those two roles should have been cast differently.

Even the “big reveal” is worse in the remake. How does the 1998 film look so much cheaper than the 1960 film?

Even the final shot is inferior to the originals

Vs this amazing work of art

R47 I didn't like the way Sheriff Romero was portrayed in the last season. He was a good guy in the first four seasons. He definitely wasn't a pushover. He could be rough and get stuff handled if he needed to, but he also had a compassionate side. In season 5 it was all about revenge. I felt like he sort of lost his human side and became some sort of killing machine hellbent on vengeance.

I thought Vince Vaughn was actually kind of sexy in the remake. It felt weird to me watching Norman and feeling turned on.

R65 I haven't seen the remakes since the theater (reading this thread is making me curious) but I'm pretty sure Vaughn was still attractive in 98.

[quote]She’s full of shit

How would you know? Were you on set during the making of Psycho 2?

Vaughn was cute in a funny pudgy best friend way. He played the part suspicious and awkward. That was one of the biggest complaints with critics, that this Bates came off suspicious! Some said they would automatically know he was up to something, he would get all awkward filled with ticks and his eyes looking crazy and reddish.

He had nothing on this mans beauty.

Didn't Vera Miles also complain that Hitchcock made her dress frumpily and unattractively compared the the glamorous and risqué way Janet Leigh appeared inthe film?

Yes r69. She wanted to be able to dress in the outfits Leigh was given but they wouldn’t have it. Her sister was the more wholesome, responsible one.

Vera is still alive. I didn’t know that.

I think Bates Motel greatest strength was also its greatest weakness. Norma and Romero became such beloved characters that Norman got the shaft. Even Norman's brother was more likable.

You can’t overlook the fact Anne Heche was terribly miscast as beautiful and desirable Marion. She’s beautiful and sexy in the book and Hitchcock kept it that way for the film. Heche is fine but neither “beautiful” or “sexy”.

The 1998 movie was garbage. Absolute garbage.

And I keep saying you know another remake will come eventually

All the supporting players - even the minor bit players - were inferior to the originals. The only exception might have been William h Macy for Martin Balsam, but Balsam still acted the part better.

Vera Miles was pissed at Hitchcock for replacing her in Vertigo after she got herself knocked up.

Hitchcock is a MONSTER. An absolute MONSTER!

I wasn’t aware Vera Miles is still living. She’s 92.

I just watched Vertigo for the first time recently. Surely Miles wasn’t up for the Kim Novak part? I could see her as bespectacled Midge but not Judy/Madeleine

Can Gus Van Sant do a shot-for-shot, line-for-line remake of Psycho II with Vince Vaughn and Julianne Moore returning? But who'd play Meg Tilly's part?

R79 you wanna watch another bad movie like his remake of the original?

R79 I’m available!

I thought Henry Thomas should've played Norman in the remake. It would've been a nice touch that would've given it that extra connection to the original series.

R82 he almost did.

In some film class in college our professor screened the remake of Psycho and had us write a lengthy review/essay. The catch was, we could not reference the original film in any way, or it'd be an automatic F. We had to pretend that the 1998 Psycho was the only Psycho, and go from there. It was a very interesting exercise.

Miles could have played Barbara Bel Geddes' role in "Vertigo", but her lack of charisma would have killed the movie had she played Kim Novak's role.

I feel so bad for Norman in the second one. They really push him to the edge and he falls back into his old habits. He was truly trying to live a normal life.

This guy uses the movie as part of a Bible study… seriously

R87 I'm not surprised. I could definitely see it being a lesson on forgiveness. Lila didn't display a Christian attitude at all by refusing to forgive Norman and continuing to harass him.

In the scene where Norman peeps at Marion through a hole in the wall as she is undressing for her shower, Norman is supposed to be masturbating as he is watching her. But the censors would not allow that in 1960, so he is shown peeping at her and nothing more. In the1998 remake, though, it is made clear that he is also masturbating at that moment.

R89 yea. Still sucks.

R88 harass him? She pushed that man back into the deep dark side and got herself and her daughter killed.

I'm watching Psycho III and pretending the nun is actually Christina Crawford.

Vera Miles seemed lovely.

Her discussing Perkins

Up until Dodgeball, Vince Vaughn was thought of as a serious actor who did a lot of indies. At the time, one would have thought his career would have been like Joaquin Pheonix.

[quote] I thought Henry Thomas should've played Norman in the remake. It would've been a nice touch that would've given it that extra connection to the original series.

After seeing so much of him lately and being impressed with his range, I definitely think he could've pulled it off.

I don’t think anyone thought he was serious. I remember him Being in indies and most of them never working out for him. He was always pointed out as one of the bad parts of those things.

Actor Henry Thomas was considered to reprise his role as Norman Bates in the Psycho (1998) remake before Vince Vaughn was cast.

He was an attractive man 🥵

Does anyone know what was Perkins ethnic background? He was gorgeous. He also had very dark features. Olive skin, dark hair, dark eyes, tall and lean.

😻😻😻😻

Heche's overacting was annoying. The costume design was horrible. Vaughn was completely miscast. But as an experiment, the remake was somewhat interesting to watch.

R72 = Ellen

R101 imagine they cast Ellen as Marion lmao

A real life Psycho.

If you're a fan of Anthony Perkins, I would recommend "Fear Strikes Out" (1957), where I think he was at his most handsome.

R105 he was incredibly attractive. Whoever got to fuck that is lucky.

It’s a shame he caught the aids. If not he could still be here

Perkins truly was a beauty. Wow. And a NYC native who graduated from Columbia? Must have been an intelligent guy.

[quote] Whoever got to fuck that is lucky.

That would be me.

Did Grover give him HIV?

The biggest question that should be asked is how the fuck did Perkins not get an Oscar nod for Psycho?

I think he should have been, his contribution to "Psycho" was huge and memorable. "Psycho" received 4 Oscar nominations, for Cinematography, Art Direction, Best Director (Hitchcock) and Best Supporting Actress (Janet Leigh), but did not win any them. No nomination for Best Picture.

Hitchcock was nominated 5 times for Best Director (for "Rebecca," "Lifeboat," "Spellbound," "Rear Window" and "Psycho"), but did not win any of those. In 1968 they did give him the Irving G. Thalberg Memorial Award.

Anthony Perkins received only one Oscar nomination during his life, for Best Supporting Actor for "Friendly Persuasion" (1956). The winner for that year was Anthony Quinn, for "Lust for Life."

In the 1961 Oscars, when Janet Leigh was nominated for "Psycho" and Anthony Perkins could have been nominated for "Psycho," the nominees for Best Supporting Actor were Peter Ustinov for "Spartacus," Chill Wills for "The Alamo," Jack Kruschen for "The Apartment," Sal Mineo for "Exodus" and Peter Falk for "Murder, Inc." Anthony Perkins was not nominated. The Oscar went to Peter Ustinov.

Wouldn’t Perkins be Lead Actor?

Anne Heche was the late 90s It girl. She was in just about everything, including a lot of roles like Psycho that just didn't fit. She must've had a REALLY good agent in those pre-Celestia years.

Heche would've been better as Lila and the only role Vaughn should've been considered for was the boss Marion robs.

On another note, how is Psycho not in the Criterion Collection?

The remake had beautiful production design and cinematography. I think it would’ve been received much better if Norman and Marion weren’t terribly miscast. I heard that Nicole Kidman was the first choice for the role and I think she would’ve been terrific.

It was gonna be hated no matter what

Best part of PSYCHO III is the Carter Burwell score.

Nicole Kidman isn't sexy.

Did Janet care about Nicole?

She seemed like a nice lady and she enjoyed working with Hitchcock

Someone like Nicole Kidman at that time really would have been perfect as Marion. You need a movie star in that role for the shock to really work. I believe she was offered the role and turned it down, knowing it was a fool's errand.

The most fascinating part about the remake is how it's basically shot for shot, word for word and, yet, it doesn't really work as a movie. With the two leads so miscast, it makes the first half a chore to sit through and only picks up steam when the better supporting cast takes over. I always felt like it was the opposite in the original movie. The first half was stronger than the second or at least they were more even.

It's like seeing a bad production of a great play. It proves that even the best material isn't fool proof.

But would it be shocking when Marion is killed r120? We all already know she’s gonna be killed

Nicole Kidman is not nearly pretty enough or sexy enough to play the part of Marion. Maybe Lila, but that's all.

Vera Miles wanted to make Lila sexy also, like Marion.

R121 Gus Vant Sant added nudity and dream images for the shock factor that would otherwise be lacking.

The dream images don’t work though. They actually take you out of the scenes

The best sequel to “Psycho” is some of the threads started on DL lately.

Vera Miles has complained that Hitchcock wouldn't let her be attractive in "Psycho" and even may have said he tried to sabotage her career. I can't find the article now. Obviously he could not hide her pleasant, photogenic face in the film, but had her dressed in the most frumpy, narrowly clothing, completely covered up, so as not to compete against the sexy Marion, who was scantily clothed or even nude.

Matronly clothing, not "narrowly." Autocorrect.

Best sequel?

The Biden Presidency.

All awful.

Another reason why that 90s Psycho remake failed was the language didn't translate well either, things like when Arbogast said: "Well if it doesn't jell, it isn't aspic, and this ain't jellin'!" Totally anachronistic and didn't fit for the 90's, the same could be said of the movie The Grifters, which was from the 40s and had that old timey language, but they set the film in the 90s. Personally I like that old slang--it's kind of fun, but it didn't fit the modern setting.

But why wouldn’t Lila wear matronly clothing? That was part of her character. She’s the older, more mature and responsible sister who is more a “goody” type vs her more sensual, sexy sister who got herself into deep trouble, whether alive or dead.

[quote] On another note, how is Psycho not in the Criterion Collection?

Because Universal wants exclusive rights to milk Psycho until the end of time.

I didn't mean it to sound uncaring.

II is a little overplotted with hammy dialogue, but it's fun.

III is sort of ahead of its time with Director Perkin's Twin Peaks-esque vibes. A weak ending, though. Also, was Perkin's entire performance dubbed?

IV is a totally unnecessary prequel, but watchable.

Besides Meg Tilly, other Psycho alumni who had issues with Perkins:

Juliette Cummins (Red in III). She made a weird crack about Perkins acting gay or something. He got pissed and maybe even tried to get her fired. She swears she didn't mean anything by it.

Mick Garris (director of IV) said Perkins was the most difficult actor he had ever worked with.

Yet some people like Lee Garlington were fawning over him as a director. He seems like one of those complicated people who either love or hate you.

Did Garlington have more than one scene in Psycho 3? Seems like the people who had to work with Perkins more extensively are the ones who had issues.

The remake would have been vastly better had Anne Heche and Julianne Moore swapped parts. But it still would have been a bad movie.

R138, she talked about it in one of the documentaries. She was in part two and he asked her to come by for 3 when he was director. She said he ate lunch with her and everyone every day and would tell them great stories but did not suffer fools. There was also a great deal of respect for him by the crew.

Of course, she could’ve been protecting his legacy or the two were cliquey together, but it was an interesting perspective to contrast the ones of Tilly, Garris, and the homophobic chick from Psycho 3.

Most people got along fine with Perkins. The Director of II loved him. The Director of IV found him difficult. In reality he was a very professional, and incredibly hard working and intelligent man.

He wasn’t like many celebs, he went to a great college and graduated one of the top of his class. He was a talented musician also.

The Director of II didn’t like Tilly either and found her to be immature, unprofessional and without much talent once they actually started filming. They had to film scenes over and over because of her. He also took issue with her feeling she deserved more attention than Tony, as did Tony himself.

That woman in III made a gay joke about Perkins which he took issue with. Whether she meant it to be rude or not doesn’t change the fact he didn’t like it, and most of you wouldn’t either probably, especially in the 80s when being gay was a big no no.

Perkins was a very shy and timid man in his day to day life. He probably was a bit sensitive too, especially by the time II came and he was now older and a bit jaded. Like many of us, he grew a bit jaded with time. He loved that Norman Bates was such a beloved character in a classic film, but he also resented him a bit because he couldn’t shake Norman off of him. He was typecast for the most part. He wasn’t being offered good roles and tons of horror types. He didn’t want that. Everyone saw Norman when they saw him, nothing else. Not even “Tony”, just Norman Bates.

He didn’t wanna do II until he was promised on the Director and writers graves that they were going to give him a project he would love to film and be proud of, and be a redemption for him in peoples eyes. He only took it because Norman is placed in victim role and is the one you sympathize with this time. It was a box office hit and he was paid a lot to do another one plus offered the Directing role, so he agreed to it and a IV, which was almost not made at all after 3 underperformed (after 2 over performed). They ended up making IV a few years after it was originally supposed to.

Perkins had only ever been with men until he was 39. And I hate people who criticize him for being closeted, as if he would be starring in Psycho (or anything) back then if he were out and proud.

Victoria Principal was the first woman he was ever with sexually, while filming “The Life and Times of Judge Roy Bean”. He went to therapy to move past his “homosexuality”, as back then they believed one can be helped in not being gay and live a “normal” life.

He later married his wife at 41, and she was 25 and they had two sons together.

His widowed wife died on AA Flight 11 on September 11, btw.

Also, part of the issue with Juliette Cummins was she wasn’t making a gay joke to him, she was making them behind his back and he overheard her. Naturally he felt some type of way about that, especially a touchy topic like his sexuality

He graduated from Columbia University.

He was born and raised in NYC until he was 10 and then his mother moved them to Boston, where he had family since 1630. His father died when he was just 5. He moved back to NYC for college and remained in his hometown for years before moving out West.

It’s a shame IV is such a stinker.

Henry Thomas was a great choice for the role.

And it’s a good idea.

The direction, cinematography and writing were atrocious and only shone a light on Perkins’ limited ability.

[quote]R141 The Director of II didn’t like Tilly either and found her to be immature, unprofessional and without much talent once they actually started filming.

Well, he was a bad director in that he didn’t realize what he had to work with. (He’s also never made a movie of any consequence.)

Tilly is really too good for the film. She brings a gentle, almost spiritual quality to what she plays. Richard Franklin and Anthony Perkins (who was really on the way out) expected Tilly to be awed, she wasn’t, and they freaked.

If any fanboys can get over Meg not worshipping Tony Perkins and his PSYCHO legacy, they can hear here reaction to the film 40 years later here:

Can someone please explain to me how the revelation, or at least the very strong implication, in PSYCHO 2 that Norman's real mother was the murderer of all those people in the first movie can possibly be squared with what actually happens in the first movie? I'm not someone who knows the original like the back of his hand, but it seems to me there are so many moments in it that are inexplicable if the murderer is not Norman himself.

Look Ma - I’m an actor!

An ACTOR!!!

Or lawsuits.

Late to this thread, R149, but in PSYCH0 2 the revelation is that Miss Spool performed all the murders *in PSYCHO 2* -- not in the original film.

The Marjorie Taylor Greene Story

I just bought the Psycho: The Story Continues 4K set by Arrow Video which includes Parts 2-4. It has been a long time since I've seen them, but I remember always enjoying Psycho II. I watched it today and it still holds up. It's much gorier than I remembered. Vera Miles's death scene is fucking brutal. I am probably going to watch Psycho III tonight. Again, it's been awhile since I've seen it, but I also recall liking that one. It was very colorful and giallo-esque from what I remember.

Julianne Moore is dreadful in (though far from the worst thing about) the van Sant PSYCHO -- harsh, humorless, dyke-y.

[quote]R30 I prefer Gus Van Sant's remake of Psycho

One of the rare cases where the remake is better than the original.