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Cobra Kai Season 4

The return of Terry Silver!

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by Anonymousreply 179January 19, 2022 1:24 PM

Terry’s power-pony is my favorite Karate Kid character.

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by Anonymousreply 1October 2, 2021 11:03 AM

give me soft comfort fluffy-haired demetri/hawk or idc

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by Anonymousreply 2October 2, 2021 8:38 PM

I’m kind of surprised they’re even referencing Karate Kid III. Even Macchio thinks it’s a bad movie (I don’t think he’s crazy about II either).

by Anonymousreply 3October 2, 2021 9:09 PM

R3 WeHateMovies podcast have a hilarious lampooning critique of KARATE KID PT. III.

When they call Daniel-san “the Wooderson of the Valley” I fucking lose it. And point out that “Miyagi’s only escape [from Daniel] is death at this point.”

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by Anonymousreply 4October 2, 2021 11:06 PM

R3 if KKIII is stupid and sucks so bad, that’s partly on Macchio himself. By that point in the trilogy he had clout enough to call a few shots...and the only time he used this power was to veto kiss/love scenes for Daniel because it would upset his irl wife😒

by Anonymousreply 5October 3, 2021 10:35 AM

It seems form the trailer that they're toning down Silver's batshit lunacy. Which is a shame.

Macchio was right about kk3. Its awful. But silver was the best thing about it.

I heard he asked for the rewrite because the girl was 15 snd he was pushing 30.

by Anonymousreply 6October 6, 2021 2:04 PM

[quote] I heard he asked for the rewrite because the girl was 15 snd he was pushing 30.

Really? Thanks, I didn’t know.

The more I hear about Macchio, the less I think he’s a straight man. When it comes to sex and relationships, most Hereros don’t really have morals.

by Anonymousreply 7October 6, 2021 3:49 PM

R7 His voice didn't really break till he was in his 30s and he looked pre pre-pubescent throughout his 20s. My money is on some kind of hormone problem.

by Anonymousreply 8October 6, 2021 7:52 PM

New Season 4 trailer.

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by Anonymousreply 9December 9, 2021 9:17 PM

R9 wow, that looks fucking intense.

Johnny training Daniel?🤒Silver and his power-pony back on his mindgames?😱Robbie telling everyone to go fuck themselves?👍

I’m in!

by Anonymousreply 10December 9, 2021 9:30 PM

"LOL @ the guy at the end "May God have mercy on us!" I love how over the top everyone is about the under 18s regional Karate championship! Those poor kids.

Love how the guy playing Terry towers over Ralph even when he's deliberately slouching. I really hope he goes full axe crazy. Also looking forward to more Johnny and Daniel interaction.

Looks fun.

by Anonymousreply 11December 9, 2021 9:43 PM

[quote] "May God have mercy on us!" I love how over the top everyone is

They’re leaning in so hard that it could easily become Camp. And I’m here for that.

[quote] Love how the guy playing Terry towers over Ralph even when he's deliberately slouching.

Daniel’s relationship with Terry is fascinating and terrifying in a psychosexual way, almost, so I’m really curious to see how far CK4 will push it and how honest it will be about it. Deep potential for some dark crazy powerful content, there.

by Anonymousreply 12December 10, 2021 12:21 PM

Ralph still hasn’t hit puberty in Karate Kid III and by that time he looks more like a lesbian with his weight gained.

by Anonymousreply 13December 10, 2021 1:57 PM

R12 I mean... They're unlikely to go too far just cause of the tone of the show but my money is on some terrifying Silver v Daniel dream sequence. Like with Sam and Tory last season.

by Anonymousreply 14December 10, 2021 10:19 PM

It's good seeing Thomas Ian Griffith back on screen again. I know he's been working primarily behind the scenes as a writer/producer. And like William Zabka and Ralph Macchio, he has aged well over the years.

by Anonymousreply 15December 10, 2021 10:24 PM

Still waiting for the young kids to outshine the olds onscreen, and it hasn’t happened yet. All cute kids and solid actors, but lacking the intangibles and presence of Macchio, Zabka, Kove etc.

by Anonymousreply 16December 11, 2021 11:09 PM

Shout out to those insane fanpeople who make such engrossing stories and video edits for Johnny x Daniel storylines. We can’t have it in reality, so it’s the next best thing.

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by Anonymousreply 17December 12, 2021 10:02 PM

New season dropping Tomorrow. The reviews are great!

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by Anonymousreply 18December 31, 2021 12:24 AM

Just about ready to start watching.

by Anonymousreply 19December 31, 2021 2:08 PM

Xolo's packed on some Covid weight.

by Anonymousreply 20December 31, 2021 6:07 PM

R20 so has Sam

by Anonymousreply 21December 31, 2021 8:33 PM

I never saw Karate Kid III (and I heard that it wasn't very good) so I'm just going to have go with the flow with this Terry Silver character.

by Anonymousreply 22December 31, 2021 8:38 PM

R18 wait Aisha is on the poster?? She coming back?

by Anonymousreply 23December 31, 2021 8:50 PM

Is the actor who plays Hawk over 18? My friend was asking

by Anonymousreply 24December 31, 2021 8:52 PM

R24 don’t quote me on this but isn’t Jacob in his early20s? Iirc he was born c.2000-1.

Really hoping that the gay couple teased by the writers ends up being Hawk/Eli & Demetri. It would just make so much sense. They have the most intense and gripping character relationship dynamic of anyone else on the show besides Daniel & Johnny. I don’t mind waiting til the final season for them to come to terms with gay feelings, so long as they do.

Then again, given how bullshit and woke shows have to be these days, the LGBT!!!!! content will probably end up being a T (either a background kid, or a new character altogether).

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by Anonymousreply 25December 31, 2021 9:17 PM

It will be Sam and Tory. Netflix only does lesbian or trans characters.

by Anonymousreply 26December 31, 2021 9:23 PM

^*if it’s transbians then I’m actively and vocally boycotting. Fuck that offensive noise.

by Anonymousreply 27December 31, 2021 9:35 PM

R25, I can get on board with that storyline.

by Anonymousreply 28December 31, 2021 10:52 PM

Billy Zabka has to be the hottest 56 year old in America.

by Anonymousreply 29December 31, 2021 11:06 PM

Ok... I love how they justified Terry Silvers manic behaviour in KK3. Pure gold.

by Anonymousreply 30December 31, 2021 11:44 PM

R29 literally??? How did he maintain such fucking great shape? Even other martial arts actors of his generation don’t look as good.

And the fact he beat the Eastern European genes—usually the kiss of death for the looks of older men—is incredible...

by Anonymousreply 31December 31, 2021 11:45 PM

Thomas Ian Griffith has an amazing body for someone his age.

by Anonymousreply 32December 31, 2021 11:47 PM

Every karate class in America is crawling with gay kids and yet this show doesn't have any gay guys in it? What the hell!

by Anonymousreply 33January 1, 2022 12:32 AM

Daniel admiring Johnny’s beautiful ass during his Miyagi-Do training session😏we love to see it

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by Anonymousreply 34January 1, 2022 1:39 AM

Conversely, the Terry/Robby S4 content was not darkly homoerotic enough for me. I wanted another helping of KKIII camp and heavy breathing and bleeding and D/s flirting, but instead I only got :/ and angst.

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by Anonymousreply 35January 1, 2022 1:41 AM

r35 Which is weird because when Daniel was warning Robby about him he described him exactly like a nonce.

by Anonymousreply 36January 1, 2022 1:43 AM

AND Daniel’s reveal scene to Johnny telling him about Silver & Barnes was also kind of a quick lazy copout I thought? Like it was just Daniel monologuing for thirty seconds at the bar, not even looking at Johnny while he breezily told the tale, and showing pretty much no deep or difficult struggle about the whole thing, let alone any insight.

The previous seasons and the original movies make it clear that Silver’s abuse is a trauma that derailed Daniel’s entire life and outlook thereafter, yet in that scene Macchio just plays like it mildly inconveniences Daniel at the utmost. I felt as if the characters at this moment were telling plot but not character, and that’s cheap and flimsy writing/acting.

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by Anonymousreply 37January 1, 2022 1:48 AM

R36 maybe Robby isn’t really Terry’s type. Bet he likes them more doe-eyed and idealistic and eager, like Daniel was—more fun breaking them, then.

Or these days he’s just too old for power-play scenes with twinks. Maybe he’s calmed down and called off the perving in his dotage.

by Anonymousreply 38January 1, 2022 1:50 AM

“I’m sick of blaming you, Dad”

😭😭😭😭😭

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by Anonymousreply 39January 1, 2022 2:00 AM

R28 thanks! I’d love to see a Demetri/Eli couple endgame too, though I’m realistic about the fact that it’s highly unlikely, maybe even out of the question. Sadly, CK seems all in with the linear pattern of interlocking straight relationships for all its main characters, ignoring the possibilities for lateral growth. Maybe one of them could get in mortal peril in the final season, and after a rescue and tearful reunion they come to terms and kiss? Idk I’m just riffing...

For me, the funny and interesting but also sad thing about Demetri & Eli is that they don’t seem to realise that their closeness is very unusual for friends; that they have achieved a level of intimacy somewhat beyond typical young American male friendship, and one that could easily and naturally progress into a comfortable and healthy romantic attachment now that they have both come out of their shells (so to speak). But they’re both teenaged idiots who think they need to hang on to hot girlfriends to stay afloat in their social shark tank, so of course the possibility of skipping the small shit to get together hasn’t consciously occurred to them (though I’m sure they have flickers of subconscious recognition).

It’s even obvious in their banterous little exchanges in filler scenes, or the way they sit and stand together, or the way they refer to one another. That is natural chemistry, not the forced variety that CK keep shoving down our throats.

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by Anonymousreply 40January 1, 2022 2:24 AM

Does Robby remind anyone else of Nancy McKeon?

by Anonymousreply 41January 1, 2022 5:51 PM

Larusso Jr. is delivering some Mary Beth Lacey realness with that hairdon't.

by Anonymousreply 42January 1, 2022 6:10 PM

Kreese seems to have a sexual obsession with Johnny.

by Anonymousreply 43January 1, 2022 11:46 PM

I'm assuming they're introducing these Jr. High characters because the older teens are aging out of high school and they want to continue the series.

by Anonymousreply 44January 2, 2022 7:03 AM

So who is the gay couple the producers were hinting about?

by Anonymousreply 45January 2, 2022 9:05 AM

I thought maybe Daniel and Johnny were going to kiss when they were apologizing to each other. The scene was tender and it affected my tenders.

by Anonymousreply 46January 2, 2022 1:08 PM

R46 they should have kissed. Billy & Ralph need to get all that sexual tension out somehow.

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by Anonymousreply 47January 2, 2022 2:46 PM

Tanner Buchanan thinks Daniel & Johnny should hook it up and date, awww☺️supporting the Karate Dads agenda

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by Anonymousreply 48January 2, 2022 2:49 PM

Maybe everyone will couple up in season 5:

Daniel & Johnny

Terry & Mike Barnes

Kreese & the crooked ref

Dimitri & Hawk

Miguel & the Asian kid

Sam & Tori

Anthony & Kenny

and they all live happily ever after

by Anonymousreply 49January 2, 2022 3:43 PM

I just started watching season 1. What a clever show! I love it!

by Anonymousreply 50January 2, 2022 5:06 PM

“Everyone has a weakness, John, and mine… is you.” has the same energy as “I wish I knew how to quit you.”

by Anonymousreply 51January 2, 2022 7:56 PM

For the amount of brouhaha over this karate tournament, you'd think it was a state championship or at least an LA city tournament. Not just the valley. 😂

by Anonymousreply 52January 2, 2022 8:06 PM

R52 my absolute favorite deepest lore is the way the board that runs the children's intramural karate tournament in the small Valley area is having a Succession-level power struggle in the background of the main plot the whole time.

Some woman (probably mother to one of the kids) on the board literally asks for a vote of no confidence like its the fucking intergalactic Senate in Star Wars.

by Anonymousreply 53January 2, 2022 8:25 PM

fellas it gay blindfolding your childhood karate nemesis so you can drag him to an abandoned warehouse where you circle him like a lion fixing to devour a gazelle then put him through strenuous tests involving staring at his ass while he sweats and swoons and flexes plus maybe shouting praise at him and calling him baby?

(ALSO johnny starts out his training with daniel by circling around him exactly like terry silver always did. guess that there is the masculine urge to get a 360 view of daniels timeless princess beauty when all daniel can do is stand there and Be Attentive hmmm🤔)

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by Anonymousreply 54January 2, 2022 8:35 PM

R53, lol!

And what exactly were the revolutionary changes the Valley Karate Tournament Board made? A skills test and separating the championship title into a Boys and Girls champion?

I do love that they dredged up Carrie Underwood and gave her some work.

by Anonymousreply 55January 2, 2022 8:43 PM

This show is so awful, and yet somehow I can't stop watching it.

by Anonymousreply 56January 2, 2022 9:01 PM

My 85-year old grandmother with cognitive decline watching the stream with me: “is the older Italian actor....well....yknow.....”

Same wife since the 80s, weird phobic delayed reaction to own onscreen gay kisses. and reported problems with conception. I’m just saying😆

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by Anonymousreply 57January 2, 2022 9:20 PM

Didn’t he have delayed problem with conception because he didnt hit puberty till he was in his 30’s? I think Ralph said that in an interview that he had late stage puberty.

by Anonymousreply 58January 2, 2022 9:30 PM

Thomas Ian Griffin aged quite well. His physique at that height is quite nice if y'all were to ask me. He has a scene in the finale and I am not going to spoil it but it seemed like he broke character and started laughing (he hides his laughing behind his hand in the scene a bit) because of the camp of it all.

Ralph Macchio I truly think had just enough of an underactive pituitary gland to not be a little person. I'm serious. His balls never even dropped low enough for him to have any bass in his voice, unlike that fine ass William Zabka.

by Anonymousreply 59January 2, 2022 9:37 PM

R43 and Terry is sexually fixated on Daniel.

Difference is, Johnny’s not into it anymore, but deep down Daniel kind of still is.

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by Anonymousreply 60January 2, 2022 10:42 PM

R59 yeah I can see what you mean about Ralph tbh. Just from a clinical glance, I have a feeling he has low testosterone, and probably very breakable weak bones & muscles prone to injury as a result. Would be interesting to know if he struggled at all with karate training, for the original movies or for Cobra Kai.

Regardless of sexuality, ime men with lower testosterone or hormone problems have a certain delicateness of voice and gait and personality, I’ve noticed. They also can tend to be more moody or emotionally-demonstrative than typical men.

Chronically-injured and sensitive profootballer Jamie Redknapp fits the profile; he once went on camera during a gameshow bit and did a testosterone count, that came out low.

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by Anonymousreply 61January 2, 2022 11:14 PM

You can see here how he didn’t hit puberty till he was in his 30’s in the early 90’s and when it did his appearance started to finally change.

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by Anonymousreply 62January 2, 2022 11:25 PM

R58, I did not know that. Wow, that makes sense.

by Anonymousreply 63January 2, 2022 11:34 PM

Still think RM could be a little bit fruity also but🐣go on ahead with your discussion about glands if it makes you feel better

do straight men flutter their eyes like this at other men? male friends of theirs? is that a normal thing that happens? not rhetorical i seriously do not know if it is😅

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by Anonymousreply 64January 2, 2022 11:42 PM

There are sone funny quotes here about Ralphs age,and also his near total inability to fight, or train.

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by Anonymousreply 65January 2, 2022 11:45 PM

I cheered when Daniel broke the ipad.

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by Anonymousreply 66January 2, 2022 11:48 PM

r65 I laughed out loud.

[quote]JOHNSON: I trained Pat and Ralph separately, really hard. They would moan and bitch—they developed a relationship because they had that in common.

[quote]KAMEN: Neither of those guys knew s--- about karate. You don’t see Daniel throwing any flying wheel kicks or any of that stuff. You see him being defensive, deflecting strikes. That’s as far as I could get with him.

[quote]MATTHEWS: We all wondered if Ralph could do it because he looked so frail.

[quote]MACCHIO: Good thing the other person I trained with was Pat Morita, so I always looked good.

[quote]SHUE: I remember being incredibly jealous that Ralph got to learn karate and I didn’t. I made fun of him a little bit, like: I could kick your ass. "

by Anonymousreply 67January 2, 2022 11:58 PM

r57

[quote]weird phobic delayed reaction to own onscreen gay kisses.

A: What gay kisses? B: What delayed phobic reaction?

Do tell.

by Anonymousreply 68January 3, 2022 12:04 AM

R68, didn't he kiss Eric Stoltz in some early '90s movie?

by Anonymousreply 69January 3, 2022 12:18 AM

Does Ralph wear a hairpiece?

by Anonymousreply 70January 3, 2022 12:24 AM

R69 Macchio did indeed have a long wet smooch with Stoltz, in a short scene of this shitty early 1990s Woody Allen-esque movie made by a one-and-done director (I saw it once on tv decades ago—3/10 do not recommend, really bad film).

Weirdly Ralph was fine with taking the gay role and doing the kiss initially, but then did press shortly (don’t recall the sources anymore) after the release saying how gross it was and how reluctant he was to do it, and that he hates that people assume he’s gay. Kind of left a bad taste. Maybe it’s just how Italian men of a certain generation are though?

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by Anonymousreply 71January 3, 2022 12:30 AM

He probably has the same type of condition as this guy who like Ralph grew tall but still has a body and features as a 14 year old. The good news is he did hit puberty 5 years after this video was posted.

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by Anonymousreply 72January 3, 2022 2:27 AM

So I’m on episode 4 of Season 4.

It seems like the basic premise of the show is that Daniel LeRusso and Johnny Lawrence are 50 something daddies who are competing with each other for attention from twinks Robby and Miguel? Is the creator of this show gay or something?

by Anonymousreply 73January 3, 2022 5:09 AM

It’s a soap opera that appeals to straight men except it’s not WWE.

******spoiler alert********

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by Anonymousreply 74January 3, 2022 6:11 AM

[quote] Daniel LeRusso and Johnny Lawrence are 50 something daddies who are competing with each other for attention from twinks

Proxy. Johnny & Daniel want each other; have done since they were both twins. They just can’t admit it.

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by Anonymousreply 75January 3, 2022 11:33 AM

R73, in the video I posted you can interpret it as a guy desperate for a father figure or a twink and his daddy.

by Anonymousreply 76January 3, 2022 1:05 PM

Love how comfortable the younger guys are with each other.

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by Anonymousreply 77January 3, 2022 3:33 PM

Tanner & Xolo are close friends. They’d make a really cute and hot young couple. Anyone know if they still live together?

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by Anonymousreply 78January 3, 2022 3:42 PM

Tanner should fuck some of the Covid fat off Xolo.

by Anonymousreply 79January 3, 2022 3:51 PM

Did Netlix pick it up for a fifth season? They're notorious for canceling shit 3 or 4 seasons in. I know they've only had the show for 2 but still...

by Anonymousreply 80January 3, 2022 3:52 PM

R80, the show was renewed for a Season 5 before Season 4 premiered.

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by Anonymousreply 81January 3, 2022 9:02 PM

Martin Kove did porn in the 70s. There was a thread which showed screen caps of his hairy ass.

by Anonymousreply 82January 3, 2022 9:36 PM

R82, was it straight or gay porn?

by Anonymousreply 83January 3, 2022 10:28 PM

IIRC there were some m/m scenes.

by Anonymousreply 84January 3, 2022 10:32 PM

I think this is the thread. IDK if the links still work.

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by Anonymousreply 85January 3, 2022 10:52 PM

So does DL still link Zabka is closeted? I seem to remember a thread about him a while back. I think he got married in his late 40s and was kind of religious?

by Anonymousreply 86January 3, 2022 11:50 PM

R86 dunno. It would make sense if he were gay/bi, but honestly he could also just be the type of straight man who loved fucking around too much to bother cheating. Though usually Christian men don’t care about the sin of infidelity, so🐣

I will say that I did find the CK scene where Johnny couldn’t get it up for Carmen because he was thinking about Daniel & Miguel kind of....hmmmm. I mean, what were the writers trying to say with that? Yeah, whisky dick is a thing, but he could have been written to obsess about anything or anyone else at the time besides his best male frenemy and his twink student...

by Anonymousreply 87January 4, 2022 3:09 PM

Excited for Season 5. Looks like we're getting Mike Barnes and Chozen next season. It's also likely we'll see Hillary Swank return. She probably was embarrassed by The Next Karate Kid but funnily enough, this show could end up reviving her career if they did it right. I have faith in the showrunners. Terry's return was done perfectly and Griffith was great. One of the greatest villains of all time.

by Anonymousreply 88January 4, 2022 4:32 PM

Julie Pierce (Hilary Swank’s character) hasn’t met or even heard of Daniel LaRusso before, afaik. That would be an interesting first encounter.

Sean Kanan is an ass irl, but the thought of seeing the adult version of the Bad Boy Of Karate Mike Barnes....goosebumps man.

by Anonymousreply 89January 4, 2022 5:01 PM

[quote] Maybe it’s just how Italian men of a certain generation are though?

This I can confirm!

by Anonymousreply 90January 4, 2022 5:24 PM

I did not know that was Macchio's daughter Julia playing Cousin Vanessa until I read it about it.

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by Anonymousreply 91January 4, 2022 5:24 PM

I hope we don't hear any metoo stories about Zabka. He must be up to his neck in pussy.

by Anonymousreply 92January 4, 2022 5:45 PM

Curious about the Miguel's Dad storyline. Luis Roberto Guzmán is in season 5 according to extras on set and I suspect that's him. Another DILF for the record.

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by Anonymousreply 93January 4, 2022 6:23 PM

R91, where did his 2 kids got their nose from because Ralph and his wife’s nose isn’t like that.

by Anonymousreply 94January 4, 2022 6:33 PM

If she had a smaller nose Julia would look exactly like Ralph.

by Anonymousreply 95January 4, 2022 7:26 PM

R94, speaking of Macchio's 26-year-old son, I think he inherited Ralph's late onset puberty.

by Anonymousreply 96January 4, 2022 7:28 PM

R92 reckon Billy’s got a lot of illegitimate sprogs running around? Maybe he needs that COBRA KAI money just in case of a paternity suit...

by Anonymousreply 97January 4, 2022 8:26 PM

R96 iirc Daniel Macchio has some kind of developmental disability, maybe autism?

by Anonymousreply 98January 4, 2022 8:46 PM

I hope Dutch gets out of jail and teams up with Kreese.

by Anonymousreply 99January 4, 2022 10:38 PM

Yeah, I was surprised to learn that Martin Kove showed hole which was rare even in those days. Don't think it was in a porn film though. Probably some Z grade production.

by Anonymousreply 100January 4, 2022 10:49 PM

Kove got blown by Holly Woodlawn in a porno!

by Anonymousreply 101January 4, 2022 10:51 PM

[quote] It's good seeing Thomas Ian Griffith back on screen again. I know he's been working primarily behind the scenes as a writer/producer.

Surprised as he was so terrific in KK3 and in this. It was definitely an interesting interpretation of the same character. I was kind of worried we wouldn't get to see the maniacal version but what he ended up doing later in the season really surprised me in a good way.

by Anonymousreply 102January 4, 2022 10:53 PM

We finally got a reason for Silver's maniacal behavior! Cocaine addiction!

by Anonymousreply 103January 4, 2022 10:57 PM

Interesting that Martin Kove was originally supposed to be the main bad guy in part 3 but had his role reduced due to a scheduling conflict. We may never have gotten Terry Silver. No disrespect to Kove, but it really did work out as Griffith was the best part of the movie.

by Anonymousreply 104January 4, 2022 10:59 PM

I just finished season 1. I am surprised at how much I enjoy this show. It's like Friday Night Lights, in that it is far better than I could have imagined. The writing, characterization and structure of the story is excellent. (It's far more sophisticated than Succession, which beat you over the head with a few themes and which did not really see much development in the characters). I would have thought DL would hate this show since it features minorities in big roles.

by Anonymousreply 105January 4, 2022 11:03 PM

I'm guessing next season Johnny heads south of the border to Mexico in pursuit of Miguel. In between that culture clash, we find out Miguel's dad is in the cartel (Carmen alludes that he's a bad dude). What else happens?

by Anonymousreply 106January 4, 2022 11:16 PM

Hawk starts a cam show to pay for different hair dyes.

by Anonymousreply 107January 4, 2022 11:22 PM

Apparently, many of those posting aren't caught up so beware of spoilers. Anyway, it's clear Barnes will return to mentor Cobra Kai but I doubt Tory or Robbie will return as CK students. I also can't see anyone from Eagle Fang or Miyagi Do defecting at this stage. They'll probably introduce some new characters.

by Anonymousreply 108January 4, 2022 11:23 PM

I want Hawk so bad. So, So bad.

by Anonymousreply 109January 5, 2022 4:55 AM

😛

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by Anonymousreply 110January 5, 2022 6:16 AM

Will they be bringing Jaden Smith onto this show? Will he be teaching the characters Kung Fu?

by Anonymousreply 111January 5, 2022 6:51 AM

Who does Sam end up with at the end, Miguel or Robby?

by Anonymousreply 112January 5, 2022 9:11 AM

Okay, why did Carrie Underwood have to adopt that disgusting sounding ghetto accent? Why can’t she just sing in her regular accent?

Not “DOE-ing,” it’s pronounced “DOING.’ It’s pronounced “truth,” not “tro-uth.”

by Anonymousreply 113January 5, 2022 9:38 AM

While Jacob Bertrand is hot as ever(I bet he can FUCK),Xolo does not look good.

by Anonymousreply 114January 5, 2022 11:31 AM

R111, the creators made it clear they will not be including Jaydone. While I am happy, I'm kind of surprised since Will is an EP. Maybe since the show is a hit, he will enforce it upon them.

by Anonymousreply 115January 5, 2022 11:43 AM

Xolo probably was bulking up but gained some fat in the process. I wonder why since he wasn't shirtless this season.

by Anonymousreply 116January 5, 2022 3:36 PM

Apparently in the minority here but I like chunky Xolo. Plenty of teens and young men have puppy fat, including other youngsters on the same show (like Mary Mouser, who looks very cute at her size), so why can’t he? Even if you’re an athletic youth, sometimes your body doesn’t lose the chub until you’re older. It’s just normal biology, why hate it and rail against it?

by Anonymousreply 117January 5, 2022 4:37 PM

R116 He’s been cast as a DC superhero (Blue Beetle) so he might be bulking up for that?

I still think he looked cute either way

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by Anonymousreply 118January 5, 2022 10:30 PM

Xolo just doesn’t look good. His face is too filled out. No definition.

by Anonymousreply 119January 5, 2022 10:35 PM

R118 lmao no kidding? Blue Beetle & Booster Gold are the joke heroes of the DC world. Hopefully he can spin the role in a Deadpool direction and maximise the mileage on that.

by Anonymousreply 120January 5, 2022 10:52 PM

the way terry grins his way through the confrontation with johnny makes him INSANELY scary. Just the way he carries himself like a man with absolutely nothing to lose, and yet everything he DOES is in the effort of preventing loss?

And that he doesnt understand johnny or why johnny is a threat, just knows he is and that the threat he poses needs elimination. That military mindset resurfacing uggghhhh

meanwhile Terry is putting on a total show (for the one he loves) not realising that this is the one wrong move he could have made in his relationship w/Kreese. Drama!!!!

and Johnny? hes basically approaching this as Just Another Fight bc at this point he is so fatigued and constantly on alert in the Karate War. hes just in permanent ‘protect our kids protect the Valley protect daniel’ mode and blinkered to anything else. someone give this himbo a month off

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by Anonymousreply 121January 5, 2022 11:20 PM

I prefer skinny xolo but like him either way.

by Anonymousreply 122January 6, 2022 12:10 AM

I didn’t even know that was Xolo during the first episode until half way through. Lost any uniqueness to his face.

We still have Hawk to drool over.

by Anonymousreply 123January 6, 2022 12:31 AM

That’s a bit over the top. He’s still recognizable.

by Anonymousreply 124January 6, 2022 1:27 AM

R124 I mean I wouldn’t say no to his load I’m not crazy. :)

by Anonymousreply 125January 6, 2022 1:35 AM

Zabka deserves an Emmy!

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by Anonymousreply 126January 6, 2022 7:50 PM

What does Ralph think of this article? He is the star and Ralph gets paid way more than Zabka.

by Anonymousreply 127January 6, 2022 10:45 PM

R127 doubt he cares. He’s getting his bag, Billy is his friend, and Ralph has had more success and limelight in the past. I’m sure he’s made up for Zabka, and backing the push for an Emmy nod.

by Anonymousreply 128January 6, 2022 10:49 PM

Zabka is the star because he's the first character we meet in the series and we get his side of The Karate Kid.

by Anonymousreply 129January 6, 2022 11:21 PM

Zabka has been phenomenal in this series and has consistently nailed the dark humor. However, this past season he's been especially good with the dramatic scenes as well. That scene between him and Miguel broke my heart.

by Anonymousreply 130January 6, 2022 11:33 PM

MARY!

by Anonymousreply 131January 7, 2022 12:44 AM

Daniel LaRusso has so many Neanderthal Alpha males fighting over him! Johnny Lawrence, John Kreese, Terry Silver, and soon Mike Barnes...

Come to think of it, he kind of has a thing for a tougher man or an older man, doesn’t he? Explains why he spent his College years living and hanging out with an Elder veteran black-belt instead of dating girls or going to school with peers.

by Anonymousreply 132January 8, 2022 10:57 PM

It's hard to believe Ralph Macchio is 60 years old. He still looks more than 10 years younger. He's older than Thomas Ian Griffith who is supposed to be the same age as Martin Kove.

by Anonymousreply 133January 8, 2022 11:18 PM

R132, I spot virgin twink first. Yes go there.

by Anonymousreply 134January 8, 2022 11:20 PM

Love that they kept the continuity of Johnny & Anthony hating each other on-sight. Hope that dynamic never changes, it’s perfect. And it kind of gives “bitter kid hates his soon-to-be divorced dad’s new partner.”😏

The fact that Johnny had no idea who Anthony was on seeing him after his growth spurt was even more hilarious.

Still don’t really like or care about the Anthony character beyond that, though. Even with a storyline and a new appearance, I just see him as a one-scene punchline.

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by Anonymousreply 135January 10, 2022 3:46 PM

I loved that the ringleader of the middle school bullies was 4ft tall and looked like Shirley Temple.

by Anonymousreply 136January 11, 2022 12:11 AM

He taught you karate and you couldn't help him with his English? Hahaha I love Johnny

by Anonymousreply 137January 11, 2022 6:27 AM

The hockey goon assumed Daniel & Johnny were a couple and he’s right😔

just watch the look Johnny gives Daniel after he mentions ‘deescalation’...so soft and besotted. And then the flirty impresses look and voice Johnny throws to Daniel after the hockey players get pasted...

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by Anonymousreply 138January 11, 2022 10:37 PM

R135: "LaPusso." This show [bold]so[/bold] gets the taunting immaturity of Jr. High/high school boy dynamics right.

by Anonymousreply 139January 11, 2022 10:55 PM

When Robbie rips off his shirt he throws it to Tory. Hawk throws his to Demetri!😏

by Anonymousreply 140January 12, 2022 4:25 AM

Hawk can throw his to me.

by Anonymousreply 141January 12, 2022 11:51 AM

R138 the hockey goon didn’t assume they were a couple, he mockingly referred to Johnny as “his lover boy”, in a being gay is the worst thing a guy can be/let’s emasculate him manner, that straight guys do constantly with each other

Are we that desperate for representation on this show?

Jeez…

by Anonymousreply 142January 12, 2022 1:10 PM

Ralph’s daughter looks a whole lot like Liza to me.

On a side note depressing how is it that when you Google image “Liza” not a single picture of her comes up until way, way down the page. It’s all pictures of a YouTuber named Liza Koshy. Time marches on and all but our Liza is a legend replaced by a YouTuber. I’m OLD.

by Anonymousreply 143January 12, 2022 2:16 PM

R140 love that for Eli & Dem they’re endgame Im calling it now

and yeah R142 we are that desperate bc on every other fuckin show its Ts or Enbys or really badly and weakly and offensively-written fauxbians. give us complex and real gays & lesbians or gtfo

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by Anonymousreply 144January 12, 2022 4:25 PM

Ok but Hawk still looks really unhappy and disgusted whenever Yasmine hits on Demetri?

Demetri forgives Yasmine completely for her past—yes, she bullied them both badly and she used to be a bitch, but both boys explicitly acknowledge that she’s superhot and Demetri is lucky/punching above his weight to land her. It’s a typical straight nerdbro thing to act like a united front and a posse who have each other’s back when it comes to landing girls. so why then is Hawk’s expression always one of reluctance and distaste, when according to guy codes of friendship he’s meant to be totally supporting his buddy in their joint quest to get smokeshow girlfriends? It’s very....hmmmmm....gay of him✌️

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by Anonymousreply 145January 12, 2022 4:30 PM

It seems they've gotten a little free throwing the word "fuck" around this season. It seems like a show that would appeal to families, so that's kind of weird to me. I guess I'm old and back in the day you wouldn't have heard that in family entertainment.

by Anonymousreply 146January 12, 2022 4:33 PM

R146 yeah, you’re correct that a Lott of the formerly verboten words have lost their potency with time—my Silent Gen grandma and my Gen Alpha nephew both say “fuck” in everyday life without turning a hair. Plus while the CK script is fairly liberal with cussing overall, that is situation normal for streaming shows these days.

It makes a lot of sense for the mostly young and mostly poor characters of the Valleu to use such language in their everyday lives that we’re watching. It would be a little odd to hear a stream of blue language from the prim middle-class Larussos, or from prim & professional adult characters such as the All-Valley council, for instance, but for the schoolkids (many of them underprivileged) or the many down-and-out characters like Johnny I think it does work to add realism. Also, Silver & Kreese being ‘Nam vets gives them a swear pass too.

by Anonymousreply 147January 12, 2022 4:41 PM

cobra kai, at its very core, is about a passel gay people who are never ever coming out of the closet and don’t even know they’re gay and likely never will come to terms, but damn if the subtext isn’t still meaty

by Anonymousreply 148January 12, 2022 11:31 PM

Is that why Will Smith is an EP?

by Anonymousreply 149January 13, 2022 1:03 AM

R144 you’ll never see a masculine gay male character on this show, the fanbase is way too anti gay male judging from social media

They will bitch and complain and say they’re being “woke” if they have a gay male character, lots of snowflakes out there

These are the same “men” who push for Tori and Samantha to make out , but isn’t that promoting homosexuality?, so once again it’s that same trope , “2 girls is hot, 2 guys is repulsive and unmanly “

Not much has changed

by Anonymousreply 150January 13, 2022 6:54 AM

R150 is sadly right. Misogyny and homophobia run so strong in the current regressive culture, and the tide doesn’t look to be turning yet.

If this were a 1990s show, we’d have a gay couple on the horizon.

by Anonymousreply 151January 13, 2022 11:16 AM

I thought DL was anti-woke? yes, putting two masculine male characters (though is Demetri masculine?)would send this fan base insane. Sometimes woke ain’t so bad, eh?

by Anonymousreply 152January 13, 2022 11:59 AM

[quote] I thought DL was anti-woke?

R152 ah, see, trolls lack nuance....

by Anonymousreply 153January 13, 2022 12:47 PM

So there was no actual LGBTQ representation that the producers hinted on or will it be the new asian character who describes herself as she/her and they will put her queerness in the upcoming seasons?

by Anonymousreply 154January 14, 2022 8:08 AM

R154 you guys got a hot bisexual girl named Moon, who could make out with more girls on the show

Isn’t that enough, you silly fags!

by Anonymousreply 155January 14, 2022 8:48 AM

R155 Moon is sweet and the actress is fine and well-intentioned I’m sure, but the character is a great negative example of how pure positive checkbox representation is in fact a backhanded insult—because when you break it down, Moon really has no character except ‘Be Nice and Likeable and Reasonable and Hot’.

She’s the ultimate cookie-cutter straight guy fantasy of the perfect lab-cultivated girlfriend—hot but organically-so (notice she shows a lot of skin but under floaty caftan-like garments), femme but not feminist, popular and a ‘girls’ girl’ but not a powerful bitch or so focused on her friends that she neglects her man, smart but not ambitious or obnoxious, chill and down to clown but also not a raging stoner slut, caring and conscientious but not deep or studious, passive but not useless, and above all happily bisexual with a preference for and loyalty to men over women m.

Helps to remember when watching her that the ideal Western female personality diode is high in agreeableness, high in conscientiousness (quirky organisation), medium-high in neuroticism (endearing worrier), high in extroversion (bubbly), and high in openness (adventurous). These women are rare in the wild, particularly in the bi & lesbian community, but for some reason every man in our hemisphere still feels highly entitled to such a woman as his personal fuckdoll property.

Meanwhile, the more important hetero female characters of the Cobra Kai cast—who, please note, usually act as ciphers for their damaged male mentors or partners—get to rage, cuss, rebel, talk back, fuck around, chase goals, get heavy and be selfish evil insular chaotic agents within the plot....if their male controllers allow it and it suits their egoic image. Only with a nod from an old dude or a trauma permission slip can women go apeshit.

This is why the characters Aisha (the homely but high-achieving intellectual with a lot of righteous anger all her own) & Yasmine (the mean Queen-bitch who runs the school) were so important, and why the fact they’ve now been written out altogether (Aisha) or underwritten/rewritten merely to accessorise a male character (Yasmine, for Demetri) is such a slap in the face to females watching this show. Amanda could also have been (and could still be) a sorely-needed representational character, standing for glamourous Alpha women who grow to resent the burdens and ridiculous demands of their husbands and kids—Amanda’s scene with Tory in this new season had given me some hope (at least it scrapes a pass on the Bechdel), but I won’t get excited until I see more proof of decent writing that goes somewhere.

All this to say, Cobra Kai kind of sucks if you aren’t a straight or bi male.

by Anonymousreply 156January 14, 2022 10:24 AM

Anything short of Hawk being gay is unacceptable.

by Anonymousreply 157January 14, 2022 11:53 AM

R157 and it’s so clear that he is gay.

His initial terror over being mistreated for his physical deformity is very real and sad, and did need to be a story, but I feel that his anger and loneliness and sorrow go much deeper than a literal scar. To place all the onus on such a difference is too shallow of a reading of a boy with that much wounding.

Even when, early on in the series (season 2, I think?), it is made clear that no-one is judging or teasing Hawk/Eli for his looks anymore, his anger and his fear do not abate. Even now in season 4, he still finds himself in some ways a little frustrated and left out in the cold in certain social situations; here especially I’m thinking of the awkwardness and forced unnatural feel of his relationship with Moon.

The only thing in Eli’s life reset back to a healthy normal for him post Cobra-brainwashing was his bond with Demetri, the boy who is inarguably his life partner (Gianni Decenzo has outright said in an interview or two that he believes the two are “soulmates”, either platonic or romantic). This foregrounds that homoromantic (which it is, whether it ever becomes sexual or not) relationship as the most important one in the character arc of Eli/Hawk.

Therefore, I find that he’s gay, Your Honour *mic drop*

by Anonymousreply 158January 14, 2022 1:29 PM

R158 again, they will never make a male character gay or bisexual on this show

The fans would have epic , snowflake style meltdowns , they all love Johnny because he’s a breath of fresh air in this “woke” PC culture, they think it’s hilarious when Johnny says, “Don’t be a pussy!”

This is what happens when gay men stupidly align themselves with every liberal cause, especially the trans, that don’t affect them and they purposely cultivate a feminine image

You can’t have it both ways

by Anonymousreply 159January 14, 2022 2:05 PM

Thanks R159, I entirely understand, and almost entirely agree with your assessment. This comment of yours especially makes a lot of sense, and I wish more people took it on board when consuming contemporary media:

[quote] This is what happens when gays stupidly align themselves with every liberal cause, especially the trans, that don’t affect them.

It’s not audacious to say that gay rights and also womens’ rights are being hijacked, coopted, diminished and derided before our very eyes—yes, even evident on silly little kids’ tv shows. It’s proof of how pernicious the problem really is when it turns up in productions like Cobra Kai.

Our current culture being what it is and advertising/sponsorship/censorship being what it is behind the curtain, gays can’t have anything else by way of representation or storyline or space, because it’s not our time anymore and we “already got everything”, right...?🙄

That being said, I’m sure you can understand the disappointment of others over that saddening reality, and can allow for their enthusiasm in coming up with alternative fantasy timelines and explanations and headcanons to assuage that disappointment. It’s not a crime to speculate for fun, or for some kind of catharsis, or even just for the sake of a big fannish “fuck you” to homophobic producers—actually, it’s healthy and normal to push back on what is being shoved down all our throats, and to shout for our stolen space.

If a fan is writing manifestos about canon straight/washed characters as gay, it’s not because they’re looking for someone else to wade in and comment “ok but that’s dumb and unrealistic, that would never happen on this show, get over it, stop giving this attention”, because, like....we *know* it’s probably futile? And anyway this for us is just a pasttime? We can perceive the crushing weight of oppression in social reality, and also simultaneously try to relieve the stress of that load with enjoyment. Life is too short, bro.

by Anonymousreply 160January 14, 2022 2:35 PM

R160 the irony is in real life at least one of those kids that joined Cobra Kai in season 1 that were being bullied at school would have been gay

And that’s a conservative estimate

However, just having one gay character is now being “woke” and shoving it down people’s throats

Things were better when I was a teen in the late 90s

by Anonymousreply 161January 14, 2022 2:45 PM

[quote] If this were a 1990s show, we’d have a gay couple on the horizon.

When straight men were in charge of all of television? No we would not.

by Anonymousreply 162January 14, 2022 3:21 PM

[quote] the irony is in real life at least one of those kids that joined Cobra Kai in season 1 that were being bullied at school would have been gay. And that’s a conservative estimate.

R161 yes exactly!! Self-defense classes at my school in the 2000s were oversubscribed with gay kids wanting to learn how to deter bullies. All the theatre kids spent gym class learning how to kickbox, pretty knarly actually👍

Ymmv, but looking back to the start of the series, I think the obviously coded-gay Cobras/Miyagi-Dos are Aisha, little Bert, Eli & Demetri, Chris, & Robby (he’s got a crush on Shawn from Juvie yet he feels obligated by the crushing pressures of compulsory-heterosexuality to prefer Tory don’t even fight me on this).

by Anonymousreply 163January 14, 2022 6:24 PM

Anyone who says that people “don’t appreciate male friendships” when they ship mlm pairings have CLEARLY never seen me gushing at great length and sobbing on the floor about the absolute masterpiece that is Demetri and Miguel’s platonic bond

Also, if anyone is wondering where I am, from now on I will be living mentally and emotionally in the “Henceforth, Miguel Diaz shall be known as the rainmaker!” “EL DIABLO DE LA LLUVIA!” *Miguel grinning* scene. What do you get when you combine Miguel’s wholesomeness, Hawk’s hamminess, and Demetri’s wordy dramatics??? The best scene in television history, that’s fucking what.

GODS I missed the OG loser nerd trio. Have I mentioned how much I love Miguel’s two best friends being proud as hell of his sprinkler prank??? Like he sat at their pathetic little lunch table one (1) time and they both decided to hype this man up and be his personal cheer squad until the end of time. I get it though, it was a pretty epic sprinkler prank.

And did you notice??? Demetri and Hawk??? ARE MATCHING??? gaaaAAYY

Anyways, in summary, THE BOYS ARE BACK IN TOWNNNNN🎶

by Anonymousreply 164January 14, 2022 6:26 PM

MY GIRL MOON 🙏“I can’t do the whole physical aggression thing”

Remind me again then why she and ELI MOSKOWITZ aka THE HAWK are meant to be compatible at all??? He loves violence and gaming and science while she loves vibes and crystals and art??? So what even would they talk about???

REGARDLESS can’t help but admire Moon’s staunch determination to be a vocal pacifist and conscientious objector in a high school redzone singlehandedly spearheading the local karate wars

by Anonymousreply 165January 15, 2022 10:25 PM

”I love it when you talk nerdy.”

Based on the look on Hawk’s face after Demetri told Yasmine, “you are both the first, and my favorite person to say that”? Eli has def said that to Demetri before, and so was offended as hell when Demetri apparently forgot.

While for the whole of season 1 Yasmine was talking shit with the cool kids across the cafeteria, Eli was in fact the only person who felt anything BUT irritation and disdain when Demetri talked nerdy. For a good 10+ years.

Like the pure disrespect of this.

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by Anonymousreply 166January 16, 2022 2:08 PM

Great season.

by Anonymousreply 167January 17, 2022 11:29 PM

Jacob Bertrand has dreamy eyes. I know MARY

by Anonymousreply 168January 18, 2022 4:11 AM

R167, I thought this season was a major improvement over Season 3.

by Anonymousreply 169January 18, 2022 4:43 AM

R168 Jacob’s eyes are a little crossed, but it’s somehow sort of cute anyway.

by Anonymousreply 170January 18, 2022 11:56 AM

Saw some people online throwing shade at Tory’s prom dress but those people are wrong and leopard print fucks actually

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by Anonymousreply 171January 18, 2022 11:31 PM

So did Robbie and Tory fuck after prom? It hinted at it. And fuck Robbie looked gorgeous on prom night. He made me wet and I’m a guy.

by Anonymousreply 172January 19, 2022 12:29 AM

Looks like Xolo’s had a dick pic leak

Go to LPSG if you wanna see

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by Anonymousreply 173January 19, 2022 1:54 AM

R173 fuck he’s got a really nice cock. Packing.

by Anonymousreply 174January 19, 2022 2:00 AM

Latin men are always packing!

by Anonymousreply 175January 19, 2022 3:01 AM

Fantastic season 4 - way better than 3. The emotional scenes with Miguel and Johnny are so good in every season. I was crushed for Miguel. The fighting was great. Robby looks fantastic. They finally got his hair right after 3 seasons. I love watching Tori fight. Though Xolo gained some lbs, he is just such a sweet character and beautiful cock. Fantastic cast - a breath of fresh air from a year of disappointments. After AJLT & Gossip Girl, this show was a breath fresh air. Note Silver's Ferrari had tags from June 2019. I love that they are still pre covid.

by Anonymousreply 176January 19, 2022 7:56 AM

[quote] Robby looks fantastic. They finally got his hair right after 3 seasons.

LOL, only on DL.

by Anonymousreply 177January 19, 2022 11:45 AM

R177 Huh

Robbie was gorgeous. That body is amazing. He’d be an amazing fuck.

I have the same question- did he fuck Tory after prom?

by Anonymousreply 178January 19, 2022 11:59 AM

this is one of my favorite Robby scene, you can see the switch in his eyes after Kreese talked to him, from that moment on he became like a Sith killing a younglin.

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by Anonymousreply 179January 19, 2022 1:24 PM
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