Monica Lewinsky was a fat, looney whore

She was Suzanne Sugarbaker beautiful.

It’s not like they changed her pronouns, OP.

Letting some guy penetrate her with a cigar. What was she thinking?

She was not a victim. She was an adult who pursued a married man. Thems the breaks

Clinton needed to have her removed to another the first time she made her availability known.

By Clinton I mean Hillary.

What's wrong with being penetrated by a cigar? Considering where Clinton's dick has been, the cigar might have been the saner choice.

“WAS”, OP?!?

I think Bill comes off very well in this. I mean, sure, he was a fucking horn dog, but so are most guys. He actually treated her well. She acted like he had nothing better to do than chat with her all night every night. He seemed to genuinely care for her.

R1 A younger Delta would have been a good choice for a Sex in the Oval Office movie. But Divine (channeling Francine Fishpaw), would have been the only one capable of capturing the sadness and desperation of this Lewinsky creature.

R9 true.

So she kept a dress with a cum stain on it as a memento. A completely rational thing to do. Doesn’t mean she was some crazy star fucker.

Ryan Murphy, the goony gay sociopath from Indiana, continues his exploration of other sociopaths on screen.

No thanks.

You're all a bunch of nasty cunts.

R13 I guess we have something in common with that sloppy cream pie whore and her troglodyte buddy.

R11 The dress had the necessary DNA evidence on it.

I don't think Lewinsky was an angel but the real problem was the media and the right wing. Creeps like Ken Starr and Gingrich got the ball rolling and the media served as their pathetic little lapdogs, never once questioning whether this was actually worthy of the hysterics.This never ever should have been treated like some sort of national crisis. That millions were spent investigating a bj is obscene.

R16 actually the media kicked it off

R16 Exactly! And Monica has become very tiresome rehashing the incidents years later, even wanting an apology from Bill Clinton. She should apologize to the public and become a VERY private person for the rest of her life. Enough is enough!!!

R16 has it. The Lewinsky incident and our national obsession actually lead to some international security risks at the time, as our president was suddenly viewed as a joke and therefore a weak leader. The media was playing games with terrible consequences just to take down a democrat and get some ratings. Lewinsky was a pawn, but she sure made for some interesting TV.

R17 It was big right winger Matt Drudge who broke the story on his website and other right wingers have been flogging it ever since. And Matt Drudge still brags about it on his website giving the anniversary date when he broke the story. The right wing loonies treated it like it was the crime of the century.

Drudge actually broke the news that Newsweek had spiked the story on the affair.

Also, Drudge is gay.

Sex between consenting adults was never a story, except for Hilary but she was probably used to all of Bill's tom catting around.

R22 A closet gay.

Also, she wasn't even really fat. She was just not skinny in a decade when the anorexic look was very in. She and Clinton were both very attractive looking at the time. In fact, she was much better looking than the other women Clinton was known to have been with. The media just made her into a fat joke to further humiliate Clinton. Every ding on her looks was a ding on him for choosing her. But wow, it must have hurt when he called her "that woman"--couldn't even say her name, as if she were too shameful to even mention by name. Dehumanizing.

This wasn't her first time with a married man. She was no innocent. The coverage was brutal. But what good is fooling around with the President of the United States if you can't have some bragging rights? Unfortunately for her Linda Tripp was the wrong person to tell it to.

Linda Tripp was savaged on SNL.

It kind of made me like Clinton that the women he fooled around with were not model material.

Her nickname in the Press was the "Portly Pepperpot". Ouch.

R28 great point, though it makes me question the media agenda even more when I think of "Clinton's women." Some of the women (I can't remember their names) were claiming Clinton's advances were unwanted and harassment. By contrast, Monica wanted him badly, and the media slut shamed her for it. The other women, who were less attractive and seemed less into Clinton, were treated much better than Monica, who seemed to embarrass Clinton more than the prostitute and the woman who claimed rape. I wonder why? The whole story seems so strange now.

I too can keep your cigars moist Bill.

[quote] Some of the women (I can't remember their names) were claiming Clinton's advances were unwanted and harassment. By contrast, Monica wanted him badly, and the media slut shamed her for it. The other women, who were less attractive and seemed less into Clinton, were treated much better than Monica, who seemed to embarrass Clinton more than the prostitute and the woman who claimed rape. I wonder why?

Kathleen Willey and Paula Jones said he only sexually harassed them once or so, and they couldn't prove anything. (Neither woman ever won her lawsuit against him)

Monica Lewinsky had multiple sexual encounters with him over the course of two years, and had proof of their relations (she never dry-cleaned the dress he splooged on, so she had actual DNA evidence he could not refute).

Juanita Broaddrick, who accused Clinton of rape, was not credible whatsoever. Among other things, she said she couldn’t remember when (even what time of the year) the rape supposedly took place. She’s now a crazy anti-vaxxer.

Well, we know one thing from the blue dress: Either Clinton could cum buckets or Monica wasn’t good at swallowing.

Why did he have to cum on her dress anyway? Why couldn't he just catch it in his hand and toss it in a tissue? How difficult is that? Does he really need to ruin a girl's nice dress? Ill mannered, even if he dressed and spoke like a gentleman. Or maybe it was a blow job gone sadly, awkwardly, tragically wrong. Maybe he thought she was into him so much she would swallow his nasty cum and she couldn't, no matter how much she thought she wanted him because the cum was so appallingly foul.

Regarding the sex harassment allegations the media absolutely adored Kathleen Wiley, even after the FBI and ( which has no great love for democrats) found inconsistencies in her story and deemed her unreliable. George Will and Charles Lane were big fans. Chris Matthews was practically obsessed with her and treated her word as gospel. He used his show to spread her fabricated allegation that a journalist had threatened her for speaking up. A few weeks afterward some nut job was arrested after he showed up at the journalists house with a gun. Luckily he wasn't home. When Chris " Fat Mouth" Matthews was Me Too'd years later I laughed my ass off.

R30 With the exception of Kathleen Wiley the other women were not treated much better than Monica. The media's big beef was that ( 1) they despised Bill and Hilary Clinton and (2) they felt his affairs were with " trashy" or chubby women instead of the typical " high end" DC mistress. The supposed outrage in the press over his dishonesty was always phony. Politicians had affairs for years that the press covered up.

Does her pussy stink?

@r33, That Juanita Broaddrick is a nasty, miserable far-right nut job on Twitter. Every time she comments I comment back that I can't believe Clinton would fuck someone like her

"Does her pussy stink? "

Like the finest Cuban cigar

People forget how republicans viciously went after the Clintons from day one. They were despondent Raygun’s VP lost to this southern hick (oh the irony of their disdain for him when their whole schtick is “middle America” who republicans hate).

It was years and years of vicious republican slandering, investigations, and a whole vast right wing conspiracy machine to smear the Clintons. You see so many of the characters in this series, but it doesn’t scratch the surface. That’s the crime this mini-series should focus on. It was 8 straight years of relentless investigations and smears. From all of that, they got him for lying about a fucking BJ. The republicans put the nation through hell.

I give Monica credit or this- she was a warrior against Ken Starr and his goons. She gave them hell and would not give the what they truly wanted until they found the dress. She’s a fucking hero for that alone.

R16 is the one re-writing history. Clinton was impeached for (among other things) perjury in a grand jury proceeding, which is a pretty serious crime for the chief law enforcement officer of the United States. He eventually lost his license to practice law for this and had to resign from the supreme court bar.

Crazy drunk granny Nancy impeached Trump twice for things that weren't even crimes.

R42 You sound way off base and terribly mixed up to me. Go take a pill.

42 has been blocked by me for a long time. Old school troll. Likely a sad, incel log cabiner.

No argument here.

R16 they spent millions looking for something that either wasn’t there or would never be found, so they went with this instead.

I may be a sad, incel cabiner (sod roof, actuallyl), but at least I never fucked the worst woman in history - Hillary Clinton!

R47 You mean you didn't vote for her?

47 is blocked.

Monica was an innocent girl who WILL NOT BE IGNORED, DAN!

JFK made Clinton look like a puritan. He was fucking every woman in sight including a German spy and also had an affair with a woman who was also fucking a mobster. The Press covered it all up.

Closet case 51 will NOT BE IGNORED!

The sad thing is Monica Lewinsky will never be remembered for anything else. What accomplishments does she have? This is the one thing that will define her life, an affair she had when she was a young woman. I don't blame her for trying to take control of the narrative that defines her. It's just not working, though.

I still don’t understand why the Clintons and especially hillary were so hated by the Republicans and media. Holy crap, the wailing and gnashing of teeth when she said she wasnt going tomsit back and bake cookies.

I think the hatred some have for Hillary is fear of any woman who might gain power if she doesn't do so on her knees.

[quote]What accomplishments does she have?

She had a handbag line!

R54 it was a mix of classist ( neither Clinton was a blue blood and Bill was considered a hick) and misogynistic hatred. The difference between the elite right wing media is that they discussed aspects of their hatred openly, calling Hilary a bitch or lesbian or whatever. While the elite mainstream media had to be more subtle in order to keep their " liberal" credentials. So they would just discuss ad nauseam how * other* Americans thought Bill was trash and Hilary was a bitch.

Edit : the difference between the elite right wing media and elite mainstream media was that the right wing media discussed their hatred openly.

Hillary Clinton SHOULD have been President but Obama and Trump crowded her out. She would have made a great President! A great loss for the USA.......!!!

Lewinsky is a fat hoorah and Bill is a perv. Hillary was a still a terrible candidate. She lost to Obama in 2008. Dems got too cocky in 2016.

R55 It's going to be so funny when Kamala eventually become president and all the white Hilary fraus have to shut up about how America is helplessly misogynistic. No one likes Hillary. She was an awful candidate. Not because she's a woman but because shs's a cold robotic bitch who has never had an opinion that wasn't poll-tested.

R60 Hillary was a wonderful, gifted, experienced candidate, the best of the lot! She would have made a fantastic First Female President. The USA really screwed up!!!

R61 Don't count your chickens before they're hatched! Kamala is not well liked and is increasingly receiving plunging unpopularity polls. If the Republicans get rid of Trump and get a halfway decent Presidential candidate, Kamala will be wiped out. There's just something about her that's 'not there'.

Can’t make a Ho a Housewife………wait.

R63 Kamala is getting dumped on in the polls because she's attached to advanced dementia patient Biden and right wing media attacks related to Afghanistan. But unlike Hillary Kamala seems like a real person and she doesn't have to do cringy publicity stunts like pulling hot sauce out of her purse to appeal to black people.

R65 So feeble that it's laughable! On a bad day Joe Biden is much better that Kamala. She's just along for the ride and doesn't really have what it takes.

Was? She still is. Can not let go of her days sucking Clinton’s dingus.

Linda Trip was a fat, lonely cunt. And well played by Sarah Paulson.