In praise of the elder lez!

Miss Hathaway was Christopher Walken in lez drag.

“Actress Nancy Kulp Came Out Of The Closet”

When it came to fancying vagina, I was very Kulpable.

This thread will take a lot of licking.

I thought it was a thread in praise of OUR Elder Lez and came running in.

Rescue Chick, we always offer our praise and honor to our Elder Lez!

The glorious Lois Kibbee.

(If you're not a soap fan you'll remember her from many movies - she was the one in Caddyshack that, well....that whole business with the candy bar.....)

R4, me too. The voice of reason in most of those hysterical covid threads.

All hail ElderLez! But can she throw a slap like Connie Ford?

r8 Or a kick, Sylvia.

I love older stone cold butches. They're awesome.

The bar I used to go to in Pittsburgh would have young dykes get into parking lot fights every damn weekend. And it was always a few of those older butches that would shut that shit DOWN.

I miss the days when the lesbians looked like men

My favorite EL is Miriam Ben Shalom. First openly gay service member, TERF, beat up the dude who tried to carjack her

I used to be frightened of lesbians

Edith Head

BARBARA STANWYCK

Nancy is a role that Chalamet was born to play…

Agnes Moorehead

[italic]”I am more than half-persuaded that I am a man’s soul put by some freak of nature into a woman’s body…because I have fallen in love with so many pretty girls and never once the least bit with any man.”

Eleanor Roosevelt

Eleanor allegedly disliked having sex with Franklin.

Evelyn Harper owns this thread.

[quote] This thread will take a lot of licking.

That’s a good one, that’s funny

When she ran for congress, Uncle Jed stuck a shiv in her political back.

To her dismay, her Hillbillies co-star Buddy Ebsen contacted the Bud Shuster campaign and volunteered to make a radio campaign ad in which he called Kulp "too liberal".[24] Kulp said of Ebsen, "He's not the kindly old Jed Clampett that you saw on the show ... It's none of his business and he should have stayed out of it." She said Ebsen and she "didn't get along because I found him difficult to work with. But I never would have done something like this to him." Garnering 59,449 votes—just 33.6% of the ballots cast in the election—to Shuster's 117,203 votes and 66.4%, she lost.[25] After this, according to her close friends and family, Ebsen was regarded as "persona non grata" to Kulp and she made it clear to people not to bring him up in conversation around her with the exception of interviews related to her time on Hillbillies. In his later years, especially after Kulp's death, Ebsen privately expressed remorse for doing the ad and they only reconciled shortly before Kulp's death.[26]

Ann B Davis

Don't forget to mention me, my pretties.

I will fuckin’ cut you, OP.

Ellen Corby.

R26 Hi, bitch!

Don't forget me!

Good timez - getting tongue fucked by my maid in The Campanile.

Patricia Routledge.

I can't be certain of this one, but I always assumed.

Caitlyn Jenner looks Nancy Kulp ...

Katherine Hepburn

R31 Patricia Routledge? Really?

(Laura) Jane Addams

Mikulski has textbook caneface. I can almost hear it clacking.

Another late-in-life lesbian.

[quote]Buddy Ebsen contacted the Bud Shuster campaign and volunteered to make a radio campaign ad in which he called Kulp "too liberal"

Code, under these circumstances, for too "queer."

Daytime's favorite closeted lesbian, Deidre Hall:

Julie Andrews

If you're going to go that far, R41, I'll go further - Lena Horne

R35 Pat has been with Phyllis, a painter, for decades. They're retired to West Sussex. Always claimed she never married, her career wouldn't allow her to care for a husband and children.

What do we know about Kathleen Freeman and Peggy McCay?

R43 I guess I just believed in the Hyacinth Bucket character SO MUCH!

R38 say hello to R26

Don't forget me!

One only looked like an elder lez.

The other was the real deal!

In the Elderlez Pantheon.

Do you want me to write a song about it? Suggest some words for the song and I'll put it together on the spot.

Oh, I forgot THIS ole cunt.

I better make the list...or I'll hurt you!

I'm part of this community!

On Tuesdays and Thursdays on the 1st and 3rd week of every month, that is!

The ever agreeable character actress, Mildred Natwick!

Dinah Shore

Mary Wickes

Barbara Stanwyck.

Carol Burnett

57 posts and no Miriam Margolyes is pretty terrible, she's still alive, working and outrageous.

R56 see R15

Miss Hathaway was almost Miss Commerce Bank.

Listen, you cheap whores, don't just list our names, give us a photo too!

Ann B Davis is still Schultzy to me!

That's a nice photo of Ann, R62!

So rough

NBC’s favorite thespian

When asked about her love life, Ms. Kulp said "some believe opposites attract, I believe birds of a feather flock together."

Camille Paglia

Billie Jean King

New York TV's Sue Simmons, 79.

Martina Navratilova will be 65 NEXT MONTH!

Martina and Billie in bed

Someone likes that pretentious asshole Camille Paglia, I guess. I DON'T.

Do lesbians not like Lesley Gore or Sheila Kuehl?

R73, these responses are not from lesbians.

Do gay men not like Richard Simmons and Elton John ?

I knew Kristy McNick was lez before I knew what lez was.

The former governor of New Jersey - Christine Todd Whitman

R75 - NO

Everyone's favorite financial advisor - Suze the Virgin!

Not Alice but her Lez cousin

Alice, who, R80? Her name is SCHULTZY.

Patsy Kelly, who called herself a "dyke," as the sublime Laura-Louise.

LEZ be friends!

I am mentioning her NOW so I do not have to mention her LATER.

The sublime Ms Taylor.

Gertrude Stein and Alice B. Toklas

Well, I don't know who these responses are from, but as a gay man DLer, I love them, but I love OUR Elderlez even more.

Miss Lauren

[quote] Patricia Routledge? Really?

There are still humans who didn't know this? wow!

And, well.....

The young Fran Lebowitz.

Dorothy, a lesbian. Blanche another lesbian. Pat and Cathy possibly too but they were primarily image consultants.

I would've posted my photo earlier but I was neck deep snackin' on janet Gaynor's ever girlish snatcheroonie

R85 Holland Taylor is terrific in The Chair.

R93- Even in 1982 they were BOTH old broads.

who is Kathleen Chalfont's GF?

All hail the quee....er, king who made stone cold butch look glam on daytime!

R97- She was SO pretty ,beautiful even when she appeared on Dallas in 1981/82.

Representative Barbara Jordan (D)Texas

I'm concerned, what a great photo of me! Late life marriage agrees with us old maids.

R100 Who wants her?

what about me?

Speaking of old couples like Mary Martin and Janet Gaynor, here's a lesser known one - DL fave, singer Lena Horne and her1960s girlfriend Jeanne Noble PhD (right).

[quote]r98 She was SO pretty ,beautiful even when she appeared on Dallas in 1981/82.

Oh my yes. She looks like Marete Van Kamp from “Princess Daisy”

Elena Kagan and Sonia Sotomayor

ALL of my female gym teachers in Junior High and High school.

Has anyone mentioned Ms. Cherry Jones?

R106, we had an over-bleached, false eyelashes and white lipstick wearing (in the 70s), 35 year old cheerleader type straight chick in high school.

Supervisor Sheila Kuehl

Dana Delaney

A DL iconic moment, of course.

Joe Carstairs, Fastest Woman on the Water

[quote]Throughout her life, Marion “Joe” Carstairs challenged assumptions and expectations of her proper place in society. An out-and-proud lesbian in a time when British women were still seen as extensions of their husbands’ property, the Standard Oil heir took advantage of her immense wealth and privilege and traveled the world, dated some of the world’s most beautiful and famous women, and, for a brief time in her illustrious life, became the world’s top female speedboat racer. Throwing herself wholeheartedly into the sport, Carstairs spent significant resources on attempting to build a motorboat capable of winning her the Harmsworth Trophy, the highest prize in motorboat racing at the time, and bringing her the respect of her competitors and detractors alike. Fastest Woman on the Water would explore Carstairs’s larger-than-life persona and the symbol of athletic validation that thrice eluded her.

Tex Gill

Interesting that Nancy Culp and Sheila Kuehl were cast as unattractive women who kept slobbering over men who were creeped out by them.

What were the other roles in which lesbians hid in plain sight?

Match Game favorite, Fried Green Tomatoes writer and one time partner of Rita Mae Brown, I give you Fannie Flagg!

And here’s to the lezzies who lunch

Eating their nut loaf

R114- Jo on The Facts Of Life- her very first appearance on the show she rides a motorcycle to the school and walks into the building and Blair and Natalie thinks SHE is a HE- I know she was young then but I had to mention her.

Jo as JOE

The ultra femme Dorothy Azner, pioneering director (and pussy licker.)

Forever brilliant, forever goddess

Forever Dusty

And speaking of old dykes and Dusty's spring field.....

R114- Another LESBIAN hiding in plain site.

A young Jodie Foster demonstrates her technique.

Excuse me! I'm a Lez Legend!

Mrs. Bundy ( there NEVER was a Mr. Bundy) from The Birds

Oi!

The FABULOUS chanteuse and Gong Show panelist JAYE P MORGAN!

Never married or faked it. She'll be 90 years old in Dec.

I didn't know Jaye P did the Lez Lez!

Lezabeth Scott

R102 Let's review: What is the polar opposite of an old lez? How about a crazy-for-dick gay male senator?

R130 the joke was that the Senatrice LOOKS like an old lesbian.

Thankful to them both.

Any reference to Buddy Ebsen has to include this gem.

Gurl please

Taken from us too soon:

You bitches are slipping. 134 replies and nobody mentioned me!

When did Kate Smith become a confirmed lezzie? Just because she never married...I always thought she was more asexual than anything, with a healthy dose of Jesus (who she was always singing about).

I'd hate to be the wardrobe person who washed out her dirty pantyhose.

I'm loving seeing all this lezzie love on the DL - thank heaven for all these good ladies who get it done (even though society has always made it doubly difficult for them).

Kate Smith was an obsessed Catholic, not a lesbian, R138.

Wrong again, R140

Again? When was I wrong before, sweet pea?

Suze Orman

R132, Marjorie Main was Spring's partner.

Anyone mention Lily Tomlin, Jane Wagner or Ruth Buzzi?

You did R145

Pat St Clement and Patricia Routledge dating blows my mind

Legendary rocker Joan Jett!

From Wikipedia: In a 2018 interview with the New York Times, when asked about how an LGBT film festival did not want to show her documentary because she was not "out", Jett said: "They don't want the movie there because I don't declare? [Holding up her necklace of a labrys] What the [expletive] is that? Two labryses, or axes, crossing each other, inside of two women's symbols crossing each other. It's not been off since I got it. And I wear this one every day. [She turns around, lifts her shirt and reveals a tattoo with similar female symbols on her lower back.] I don't know how much more you can declare."[97]

Anyone remember Remington Steele? Stephanie Zimbalist is turning 65 in two weeks making her an elder lez!

Garbo

I didn’t know about the labrys double axe being a symbol for lesbians. It makes sense though: axe, hatchet wound, etc.

Angie Merkel

The labrys is a lesbian symbol because of its generally ancient Greek origins and more specifically because axes were associated with Amazons in mythology.

[quote]I didn’t know about the labrys double axe being a symbol for lesbians.

More specifically, lesbian feminism.

Our Gina has a labrys tattoo in BOUND.

Boy, it took a long time for someone to mention Lily Tomlin!

Kathleen Freeman was perhaps my all-time favorite Dyke (capitalization intended). God, she was great!

But it's Broadway star Cherry Jones, with her warm, deep voice and intelligent intensity, who really shakes me up. Thank god she's a Lesbian -if she were straight she just might convert me!

Honestly I thought someone mentioned Jane and Lily up top, I thought of them several times.

Jean Smart

Nana Visitor- Kira Nerys on Star Trek: Deep Space Nine

Ellen Corby, Grandma Walton.

Delta Dawn, what’s that thing you’ve got strapped on?

It's her party and she'll make the lez-lez if she wants to!

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I love older lesbians. I’ve known a few. One was a co-worker. Guess who?

R165- Beatrice Arthur

But Betty White is a LESBO too.

Lezzlie Charleson aka Monica Quartermaine

^^ she had dry dyke face for days.

Hmmm. A very nice pic of Angela Lansbury in her youth. I assume she plays on the same team as Greta Garbo.

Debbie Harry

No wonder Keaton's clothes often look masculine. She is a lez. Never thought of her that way.

Angela Lansbury is definitely not a lez. In fact, the only blemish on her otherwise-excellent LGBTQ+++++ record is that misguided quote from 2013 about women turning to lesbianism because there weren't enough men around -or something like that. It was a statement she later apologized for, confessing her own ignorance. Her first husband was gay, and she genuinely didn't know. She had a long and happy second marriage (with children). I know neither of those prove anything, of course -But just because she is a gay icon doesn't make her gay either.

There are plenty of wonderful, elder vagitarians out there -the group doesn't need her to shine. :)

[quote]Nana Visitor- Kira Nerys on Star Trek: Deep Space Nine

Nana Visitor is not a lesbian. But she is the niece of Cyd Charisse.

Mary Ann aka Dawn Wells of Gilligan's Island fame. Aside from dinner theater, her career never took off after the show...maybe by her design ;)

R174 coconut pie was a euphemism when Dawn was around

So many newswomen, national and local.

Wasn't Savitch a lez?

Jessica and Sue Simmons = VERY close

Robin Roberts

Ooops! Forgot about Robin Roberts. Thanks, R176!

I always got lezzie vibes from the four-times married (to men) Linda Ellerbee.

I'm croning as we speak!

Did anyone post Wanda Sykes yet?

I guess if we're including Robin then Wanda's in there too

though fiftysomething isn't exactly "elderlez"

R180 I agree.

R176 In the books about her she comes off as nearly asexual but but infer she enjoyed ladyparts .

Wow, R183 -- I thought she was older than that. But she's only 57.

So much for "black don't crack."

[quote]R176 So many newswomen, national and local. Wasn't Savitch a lez?

She did marry her gynecologist. That’s suspicious. Was he the keeper of its secrets?

Weren't Jessica Savitch and Sue Simmons an item for a New York minute?

R187, they were "roommates." And it's been discussed above.

R186 he was gay.

I don't know which concept is worse-- (a) a gay gynecologist or (b) a woman marrying her straight one.

Oy!

Jessica never figured herself out. She gave men what she thought they wanted, only to get beat up in one way or another. She had Judy Garland syndrome.

Cynthia McFadden on the other hand…

One of the greatest and most legendary Elder Lezzies is responsible for some of the greatest and most subversive children’s literature of all time. Ursula Nordstrom ruled the world of children’s publishing for close to five decades at Harper Brothers and single handily discovered and promoted some of the greatest Lesbian and Gay children’s writers and illustrators of all time, culminating in Maurice Sendak whose portrait of her is here. Almost Elder Lezzies Margaret Wise Brown (Goodnight Moon, Runaway Bunny) and Louise Fitzhugh (Harriet the Spy and sequels) would have attained that status if they both hadn’t died young. She discovered Shel Silverstein in the pages of Playboy magazine from his irreverent cartoons. She said she wanted to make “good books for bad children.” And had one of the biggest bitch fights in the history of lesbians that lasted decades with the head of the NY Public Library’s children’s services with Anne Carrol Moore, who was a wicked, wicked cunt!

So, here’s my Nancy Culp story. In Pennsylvania, not far outside of Gettysburg there is a summer stock theater in a state forest called Totempole Playhouse that was owned and operated by well known homosexual William Putch and his wife Jean Stapleton, yes Edith Bunker was married to a gay man, and they had children. In 1984, the year after he died, Jean was carrying on with the season and as a young gayling theater nerd my parents took me to see “You Can’t Take it with You,” which they had both starred in during a high school production. Ms. Culp was in the audience that night and it was electric as she was leading up to the election and her name was everywhere again, although the theatre wasn’t technically in the voting district. At the intermission she was swarmed with admirers and then afterwards outside the theater in the woods a huge crowd gathered and she graciously chatted and shook hands with everyone and even I got to meet her and tell her how much my family loved The Beverly Hillbillies. It was very heady, as south central Pennsylvania didn’t have many known TV stars from Hollywood!

[quote]R193 yes Edith Bunker was married to a gay man

Well, really, not to put too fine a point on it, but I doubt straight men were beating down her door (?)

R94- More important- Was Jean Stapleton a lesbian?

R195 That was not a rumor that circulated in Pennsylvania, I think she spent most of her time in California while he was based more in PA.

[quote]She had Judy Garland syndrome.

Bi-polar drug addict

Half of the women here aren't/weren't even lesbians.

Which half?

R199 The straight/bi half

I mean Dana Delaney, Liza Minnelli, Dianne Keaton...?

Yeah... Dana Delaney... she dated... eh... Jeffery Self!

Liza likes Lisa but Chita put a stop to it.

Liza likes Lisa but Chita put a stop to it.

R198 is one of those insecure lesbianphobes who gets agita when a favorite of his may not 'love cock' as much as he does.

R201, Liza Minnelli is at least bi-sexual. I don't understand the surprise. She's probably more lesbian that not but too screwed up to know.

Jean’s son John Putch always pinged to me, especially when he was on ONE DAY AT A TIME.

R205 is one of those insecure delusional DLers who think 99% of population is gay. Or any older person that isn't married and has 20 kids is a closeted homosexual.

But only the good looking ones, R207.

R205 " Liza Minnelli is at least bi-sexual"

- yeah, sure. Cause you say so. Also, bisexual and gay are two different things.

True dat, r209.

R209 - teetering of the edge of a make believe nightmare!

R211 Wut?

There’s tons of elder Lez representation in this new HBO documentary series.

That is one ugly dude R212.

Connie Britton

People are just throwing out random names.

Mrs. Butterworth.

ETHEL WATERS!

Willa Cather

"She spent the last 39 years of her life with her domestic partner, Edith Lewis, before being diagnosed with breast cancer and dying of a cerebral hemorrhage. She is buried alongside Lewis in a Jaffrey, New Hampshire plot. "

oops

R214, he’s revealed his identity after ten years of being an anonymous meme and he’s pretty cute.

can't mention Ethel Waters and not point out....

Carson McCullers

McCullers fell in love with a number of women and pursued them sexually with great determination, but seems not to have succeeded in finding mutual attraction. Her most documented and extended love obsession was with Annemarie Schwarzenbach, of whom she once wrote "She had a face that I knew would haunt me for the rest of my life." In her autobiography, McCullers reports that the two shared one kiss. McCullers' passion, however, was not reciprocated, and the two remained friends with McCullers dedicating her next novel, Reflections in a Golden Eye, to her.[14][15] Sarah Schulman writes:

There is the infamous obsession with Katherine Anne Porter and a much-implied ongoing “friendship” with Gypsy Rose Lee. But if Carson ever actually had sex with a woman, even Tennessee [Williams] didn't hear of it. According to McCullers's brilliant biographer, Virginia Spencer Carr, Carson did brag to her male cousin that she'd had sex with Gypsy once. But if that was the case, she never mentioned it to any of her gay friends. In the absence of reciprocated lesbian love and the inability to consummate lesbian sex, McCullers still wore a lesbian persona in literature and in life. She clearly wrote against the grain of heterosexual convention, wore men's clothes, was outrageously aggressive in her consistently failed search for sex and love with another woman, and formed primary friendships with other gay people.[14

WHY?

I know I’ve been over here in the shadows ignoring you, but you couldn’t possible have forgotten about me could you?

I had them all....Virginia, Violet, Harold, Mary, Hilda, and that hot menage a trois with Evelyn and Olive. I was insatiable

"Woolf was often bothered by what she viewed as Sackville-West's promiscuity, charging that Sackville-West's great need for sex led her to take up with anyone who struck her fancy."

they didn't get more elder or more lezzie than moi

What about me, Gertrude?

R193 Confirming what you said, a friend went to Totem Pole Playhouse to get his Equity card. Bull Putch hit on every young male apprentice.

How about LaRue/Viola Beverly Archer? Certainly seemed like a lesbian.

What about Candy Crowley? Always loved her energy on CNN.

I just finished reading Colm Toibin’s novel about Thomas Mann called The Magician. He managed to basically repress his homosexuality, but it popped up in three of his six children. Erika Mann comes directly out of Cabaret and in fact ran very subversive cabarets in Germany and Switzerland. She asked Isherwood to marry her so she could get out of Germany and have British citizenship, he declined, but past her onto Auden who did and they remained married for life, though never lived together. She lead a fascinating life.

[quote]What about Candy Crowley? Always loved her energy on CNN.

Her "energy" was Type 2 diabetes.

Yikes, R227. Alice B. Toklas got beaten with the ugly stick.

DL used to have an always hungry and very funny Candy Crawley poster.

How about former DL fave, CNN's Suzanne Malveaux?

She was so popular here once, and she's now in her mid-50s:

OMG! Wiki says Suzanne is in a relationship with Karine Jean-Pierre! Didn't know that.

Bernadette Peters?

R237 = not bright

R235 She's only 53. That's not elder.

R239, her date of birth is Dec 4, 1966. 55 on that date.

Silly R239. Here on the DataLounge, anything north of 39 is absolutely antiquated!

My, Gertrude Stein sure had a mannish face. Here's Alice, looking more lady like.

Patricia Highsmith.

DL gays looooove lezzies like Gertrude Stein, not so much for the Suzanne Malveaux type. The only ones I've known have been the latter.

[quote]R239 She's only 53. That's not elder.

ESPECIALLY when you just look 36!

r55 Dinah Shore wasn't a lesbian. She just had a LPGA tournament in Palm Springs named after her. (Neither was Mary Wickes for that matter.]

Margaret Hamilton was confirmed to be an elder "lesbitarian" according to DL fave Bruce Vilanch. Apparently she had lived on the DL for years, but by the time they did the Paul Lynde Halloween Special, she was pretty much out and on the prowl! Bless her.

Broadway's Patricia Morison was allegedly family as well.

We mustn't forget about our dear, delightful Miriam Margolyes either! Perhaps the greatest Graham Norton guest... And she just released a terrific memoir (available on Audible)

No one forgot Miriam. She was checked in upon arrival upthread.

VITA! R225 How wonderful. But where Vita goes, surely there must be Violet. She is the unexploded bomb in her life. And also I just love the hat.

Well, if you’re going to play that game, let’s toss in Nazimova.

Oh - I didn’t know this…!

[italic]”Mary’s, owned by Nazimova, was a dyke bar on the Sunset Strip opposite Café Gala, a gay bar that by the 1930s was home away from home for Cole Porter.“

I was going to start a Favorite Lesbians thread, but will list mine here:

Lily Tomlin: Michigan Legend

Patty Schemel: Hole drummer

Joan Jett: Eats out bi-curious young Hollywood (Lindsay Lohan, Pink, Carmen Electra, Christina Aguilera)

Alla Nazimova: Started "Sewing Circles" in Classic Hollywood

Another elder lesbian writer.

^^ I am SHOCKED!

PS: is she the one that murdered her girlhood friend’s mom, in “Heavenly Creatures”?

A wonderful Irene Ryan story!

My mother used to be the P.A. for Nancy Kulp back in the day when good ol Nance had the dough for a P.A. (post Parent Trap). Anyway, Nance had just gone through a very rigorous audition process in order to get the role of Ms. Jane Hathaway, on what would become the landmark televison series "The Beverly Hillbilly's". She was assigned a dressing room with an actress she had never heard of named one Ms. Irene Ryan. Well, Nance and Irene got along famously from the get go, though, apparantly, Nance was apprehensive about letting Irene know about her diggin the ladies, seeing as how Irene was 86 at the time, Nance suspected she might not take to kindly to having a lady co-star who liked to shave other gals Hams.

Well, how funny was it when after a long day of shooting, Irene packed up the castor oil and bag of hair that she always had with her and left the lot for the day. Nance thought that she had free reign of the trailer for the rest of the evening and invited a delightful Nubian extra named Puma into her trailer for some dinner and some hot finger fucking !!! Well no sooner had our girl Nance gotten up to her shoulder in Puma's girl than Irene walked in, Nance told my mom that she was caught "black handed" by dear granny herself. Well, Nance was ashamed and had it not been for her damned collatta ring gett ing caught on some of Puma's internal lady skin she would have had her arm out of her in an instant. Irene just looked at the tw o of them in their "compromising position" and chuckled. You could have knocked Nance over with a feather. Apparantly, she was bright red so Irene soothed her fears and told her not to worry, she was totally cool with the fact that Nance liked to bump waffles and then proceeded to lift up her skirt and show her the tiniest pair of balls that Nance had ever seen (granted, Nance probably didn't see too many balls in her day, but still). Irene then explained that while she was all lady, she happened to have be en born with a pair of vestigal testicals right underneath her clitoris.

Ever since then Irene and Nance remained busom pals til Irene's death in 1974 and Nance never revealed her secret, except to a few close personal friends. Now that is friendship!!

R256, that was Anne Perry.

Irene Ryan was 70 years old when she died in 1973 R257. Irene was around 60 years old when she started The Beverly Hillbillies. Makes your whole story suspect when you claim she was 86 years old.

Ha ha ha, R257. Very creative. But "for some dinner and some hot finger fucking" is just too stupid.

[quote] Makes your whole story suspect when you claim she was 86 years old.

You actually thought that was a true story? It had "Bad DL Creative Writing" written all over it.

Cornwell's enthusiasm for cosmetic surgery did surprise me.

I stopped reading it after he said she was 86 years old R261

Consider yourself lucky, R263.

R258 As one who likes Miriam, I worry about her carrying all that extra weight.

Oops I meant not R258 but whoever posted about Margolies. Which I'm probably misspelling. Whatever.

R254 Ew, she's a republican.

Old biddy dykes really got it going on!

Diane Bish of The Joy of Music fame, fired by Coral Ridge Presbyterian for her lesbishious tendencies.

[quote]R268 Old biddy dykes really got it going on!

Biddies in da house ! !

Grooming

[italic]Biddies Gone Wild[/italic] (Barely Legal edition)

Mrs. Bundy in “The Birds.”

Susan Flannery

A nephew or cousin of Ms. Kulp was/is? an educator in my town. I never had him for class, but he dated one of my teachers and they eventually married. I would see him often. He looked just like Nancy Kulp only a little more heavy set.