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In praise of the elder lez!

The Connie Ford thread made me wonder if we've ever had a celebration of the elder lez. Let's have one now!

There are so many from Hollywood, media and politics alone!

We'll start with Miss Hathaway......

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by Anonymousreply 275October 21, 2021 7:32 PM

Miss Hathaway was Christopher Walken in lez drag.

by Anonymousreply 1September 22, 2021 5:11 PM

“Actress Nancy Kulp Came Out Of The Closet”

When it came to fancying vagina, I was very Kulpable.

by Anonymousreply 2September 22, 2021 5:12 PM

This thread will take a lot of licking.

by Anonymousreply 3September 22, 2021 5:15 PM

I thought it was a thread in praise of OUR Elder Lez and came running in.

by Anonymousreply 4September 22, 2021 5:22 PM

Rescue Chick, we always offer our praise and honor to our Elder Lez!

by Anonymousreply 5September 22, 2021 5:26 PM

The glorious Lois Kibbee.

(If you're not a soap fan you'll remember her from many movies - she was the one in Caddyshack that, well....that whole business with the candy bar.....)

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by Anonymousreply 6September 22, 2021 5:27 PM

R4, me too. The voice of reason in most of those hysterical covid threads.

by Anonymousreply 7September 22, 2021 5:31 PM

All hail ElderLez! But can she throw a slap like Connie Ford?

by Anonymousreply 8September 22, 2021 5:42 PM

r8 Or a kick, Sylvia.

by Anonymousreply 9September 22, 2021 5:45 PM

I love older stone cold butches. They're awesome.

The bar I used to go to in Pittsburgh would have young dykes get into parking lot fights every damn weekend. And it was always a few of those older butches that would shut that shit DOWN.

by Anonymousreply 10September 22, 2021 5:48 PM

I miss the days when the lesbians looked like men

by Anonymousreply 11September 22, 2021 5:50 PM

My favorite EL is Miriam Ben Shalom. First openly gay service member, TERF, beat up the dude who tried to carjack her

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by Anonymousreply 12September 22, 2021 5:53 PM

I used to be frightened of lesbians

by Anonymousreply 13September 22, 2021 5:57 PM

Edith Head

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by Anonymousreply 14September 22, 2021 5:58 PM


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by Anonymousreply 15September 22, 2021 6:09 PM

Nancy is a role that Chalamet was born to play…

by Anonymousreply 16September 22, 2021 6:41 PM

Agnes Moorehead

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by Anonymousreply 17September 22, 2021 6:42 PM

[italic]”I am more than half-persuaded that I am a man’s soul put by some freak of nature into a woman’s body…because I have fallen in love with so many pretty girls and never once the least bit with any man.”

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by Anonymousreply 18September 22, 2021 6:53 PM

Eleanor Roosevelt

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by Anonymousreply 19September 22, 2021 8:12 PM

Eleanor allegedly disliked having sex with Franklin.

by Anonymousreply 20September 22, 2021 8:14 PM

Evelyn Harper owns this thread.

by Anonymousreply 21September 22, 2021 8:17 PM

[quote] This thread will take a lot of licking.

That’s a good one, that’s funny

by Anonymousreply 22September 22, 2021 8:22 PM

When she ran for congress, Uncle Jed stuck a shiv in her political back.

To her dismay, her Hillbillies co-star Buddy Ebsen contacted the Bud Shuster campaign and volunteered to make a radio campaign ad in which he called Kulp "too liberal".[24] Kulp said of Ebsen, "He's not the kindly old Jed Clampett that you saw on the show ... It's none of his business and he should have stayed out of it." She said Ebsen and she "didn't get along because I found him difficult to work with. But I never would have done something like this to him." Garnering 59,449 votes—just 33.6% of the ballots cast in the election—to Shuster's 117,203 votes and 66.4%, she lost.[25] After this, according to her close friends and family, Ebsen was regarded as "persona non grata" to Kulp and she made it clear to people not to bring him up in conversation around her with the exception of interviews related to her time on Hillbillies. In his later years, especially after Kulp's death, Ebsen privately expressed remorse for doing the ad and they only reconciled shortly before Kulp's death.[26]

by Anonymousreply 23September 22, 2021 8:23 PM

Ann B Davis

by Anonymousreply 24September 22, 2021 8:31 PM

Don't forget to mention me, my pretties.

by Anonymousreply 25September 22, 2021 8:34 PM

I will fuckin’ cut you, OP.

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by Anonymousreply 26September 22, 2021 8:41 PM

Ellen Corby.

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by Anonymousreply 27September 22, 2021 8:43 PM

R26 Hi, bitch!

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by Anonymousreply 28September 22, 2021 8:46 PM

Don't forget me!

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by Anonymousreply 29September 22, 2021 8:50 PM

Good timez - getting tongue fucked by my maid in The Campanile.

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by Anonymousreply 30September 22, 2021 8:51 PM

Patricia Routledge.

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by Anonymousreply 31September 22, 2021 8:53 PM

I can't be certain of this one, but I always assumed.

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by Anonymousreply 32September 22, 2021 8:56 PM

Caitlyn Jenner looks Nancy Kulp ...

by Anonymousreply 33September 22, 2021 8:57 PM

Katherine Hepburn

by Anonymousreply 34September 22, 2021 9:26 PM

R31 Patricia Routledge? Really?

by Anonymousreply 35September 22, 2021 9:34 PM

(Laura) Jane Addams

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by Anonymousreply 36September 22, 2021 9:42 PM

Mikulski has textbook caneface. I can almost hear it clacking.

by Anonymousreply 37September 22, 2021 9:45 PM

Another late-in-life lesbian.

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by Anonymousreply 38September 22, 2021 10:14 PM

[quote]Buddy Ebsen contacted the Bud Shuster campaign and volunteered to make a radio campaign ad in which he called Kulp "too liberal"

Code, under these circumstances, for too "queer."

by Anonymousreply 39September 22, 2021 10:14 PM

Daytime's favorite closeted lesbian, Deidre Hall:

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by Anonymousreply 40September 22, 2021 10:16 PM

Julie Andrews

by Anonymousreply 41September 22, 2021 10:20 PM

If you're going to go that far, R41, I'll go further - Lena Horne

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by Anonymousreply 42September 22, 2021 10:27 PM

R35 Pat has been with Phyllis, a painter, for decades. They're retired to West Sussex. Always claimed she never married, her career wouldn't allow her to care for a husband and children.

by Anonymousreply 43September 22, 2021 10:31 PM

What do we know about Kathleen Freeman and Peggy McCay?

by Anonymousreply 44September 22, 2021 10:32 PM

R43 I guess I just believed in the Hyacinth Bucket character SO MUCH!

by Anonymousreply 45September 22, 2021 10:34 PM

R38 say hello to R26

by Anonymousreply 46September 22, 2021 10:35 PM

Don't forget me!

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by Anonymousreply 47September 22, 2021 10:38 PM

One only looked like an elder lez.

The other was the real deal!

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by Anonymousreply 48September 22, 2021 10:40 PM

In the Elderlez Pantheon.

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by Anonymousreply 49September 22, 2021 10:52 PM

Do you want me to write a song about it? Suggest some words for the song and I'll put it together on the spot.

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by Anonymousreply 50September 22, 2021 10:56 PM

Oh, I forgot THIS ole cunt.

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by Anonymousreply 51September 22, 2021 10:56 PM

I better make the list...or I'll hurt you!

by Anonymousreply 52September 22, 2021 11:02 PM

I'm part of this community!

On Tuesdays and Thursdays on the 1st and 3rd week of every month, that is!

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by Anonymousreply 53September 22, 2021 11:10 PM

The ever agreeable character actress, Mildred Natwick!

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by Anonymousreply 54September 22, 2021 11:37 PM

Dinah Shore

Mary Wickes

by Anonymousreply 55September 22, 2021 11:50 PM

Barbara Stanwyck.

by Anonymousreply 56September 22, 2021 11:52 PM

Carol Burnett

by Anonymousreply 57September 22, 2021 11:53 PM

57 posts and no Miriam Margolyes is pretty terrible, she's still alive, working and outrageous.

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by Anonymousreply 58September 23, 2021 12:01 AM

R56 see R15

by Anonymousreply 59September 23, 2021 12:03 AM

Miss Hathaway was almost Miss Commerce Bank.

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by Anonymousreply 60September 23, 2021 12:05 AM

Listen, you cheap whores, don't just list our names, give us a photo too!

by Anonymousreply 61September 23, 2021 12:21 AM

Ann B Davis is still Schultzy to me!

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by Anonymousreply 62September 23, 2021 12:24 AM

That's a nice photo of Ann, R62!

by Anonymousreply 63September 23, 2021 12:45 AM

So rough

by Anonymousreply 64September 23, 2021 12:56 AM

NBC’s favorite thespian

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by Anonymousreply 65September 23, 2021 1:01 AM

When asked about her love life, Ms. Kulp said "some believe opposites attract, I believe birds of a feather flock together."

by Anonymousreply 66September 23, 2021 1:02 AM

Camille Paglia

by Anonymousreply 67September 23, 2021 1:02 AM

Billie Jean King

by Anonymousreply 68September 23, 2021 1:03 AM

New York TV's Sue Simmons, 79.

by Anonymousreply 69September 23, 2021 1:06 AM

Martina Navratilova will be 65 NEXT MONTH!

by Anonymousreply 70September 23, 2021 1:11 AM

Martina and Billie in bed

by Anonymousreply 71September 23, 2021 1:18 AM

Someone likes that pretentious asshole Camille Paglia, I guess. I DON'T.

by Anonymousreply 72September 23, 2021 1:59 AM

Do lesbians not like Lesley Gore or Sheila Kuehl?

by Anonymousreply 73September 23, 2021 2:01 AM

R73, these responses are not from lesbians.

by Anonymousreply 74September 23, 2021 2:03 AM

Do gay men not like Richard Simmons and Elton John ?

by Anonymousreply 75September 23, 2021 2:03 AM

I knew Kristy McNick was lez before I knew what lez was.

by Anonymousreply 76September 23, 2021 2:05 AM

The former governor of New Jersey - Christine Todd Whitman

by Anonymousreply 77September 23, 2021 2:07 AM

R75 - NO

by Anonymousreply 78September 23, 2021 2:13 AM

Everyone's favorite financial advisor - Suze the Virgin!

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by Anonymousreply 79September 23, 2021 2:19 AM

Not Alice but her Lez cousin

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by Anonymousreply 80September 23, 2021 2:24 AM

Alice, who, R80? Her name is SCHULTZY.

by Anonymousreply 81September 23, 2021 2:26 AM

Patsy Kelly, who called herself a "dyke," as the sublime Laura-Louise.

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by Anonymousreply 82September 23, 2021 2:31 AM

LEZ be friends!

by Anonymousreply 83September 23, 2021 3:14 AM

I am mentioning her NOW so I do not have to mention her LATER.

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by Anonymousreply 84September 23, 2021 3:15 AM

The sublime Ms Taylor.

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by Anonymousreply 85September 23, 2021 4:27 AM

Gertrude Stein and Alice B. Toklas

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by Anonymousreply 86September 23, 2021 4:52 AM

Well, I don't know who these responses are from, but as a gay man DLer, I love them, but I love OUR Elderlez even more.

by Anonymousreply 87September 23, 2021 4:56 AM

Miss Lauren

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by Anonymousreply 88September 23, 2021 4:58 AM

[quote] Patricia Routledge? Really?

There are still humans who didn't know this? wow!

by Anonymousreply 89September 23, 2021 5:01 AM

And, well.....

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by Anonymousreply 90September 23, 2021 5:03 AM

The young Fran Lebowitz.

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by Anonymousreply 91September 23, 2021 5:29 AM

Dorothy, a lesbian. Blanche another lesbian. Pat and Cathy possibly too but they were primarily image consultants.

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by Anonymousreply 92September 23, 2021 7:00 AM

I would've posted my photo earlier but I was neck deep snackin' on janet Gaynor's ever girlish snatcheroonie

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by Anonymousreply 93September 23, 2021 6:34 PM

R85 Holland Taylor is terrific in The Chair.

by Anonymousreply 94September 23, 2021 7:51 PM

R93- Even in 1982 they were BOTH old broads.

by Anonymousreply 95September 23, 2021 7:55 PM

who is Kathleen Chalfont's GF?

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by Anonymousreply 96September 23, 2021 8:23 PM

All hail the quee....er, king who made stone cold butch look glam on daytime!

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by Anonymousreply 97September 23, 2021 8:38 PM

R97- She was SO pretty ,beautiful even when she appeared on Dallas in 1981/82.

by Anonymousreply 98September 23, 2021 8:45 PM

Representative Barbara Jordan (D)Texas

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by Anonymousreply 99September 23, 2021 9:04 PM

I'm concerned, what a great photo of me! Late life marriage agrees with us old maids.

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by Anonymousreply 100September 23, 2021 9:14 PM

R100 Who wants her?

by Anonymousreply 101September 23, 2021 9:52 PM

what about me?

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by Anonymousreply 102September 23, 2021 10:22 PM

Speaking of old couples like Mary Martin and Janet Gaynor, here's a lesser known one - DL fave, singer Lena Horne and her1960s girlfriend Jeanne Noble PhD (right).

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by Anonymousreply 103September 23, 2021 10:23 PM

[quote]r98 She was SO pretty ,beautiful even when she appeared on Dallas in 1981/82.

Oh my yes. She looks like Marete Van Kamp from “Princess Daisy”

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by Anonymousreply 104September 23, 2021 10:27 PM

Elena Kagan and Sonia Sotomayor

by Anonymousreply 105September 23, 2021 10:38 PM

ALL of my female gym teachers in Junior High and High school.

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by Anonymousreply 106September 23, 2021 10:48 PM

Has anyone mentioned Ms. Cherry Jones?

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by Anonymousreply 107September 23, 2021 10:58 PM

R106, we had an over-bleached, false eyelashes and white lipstick wearing (in the 70s), 35 year old cheerleader type straight chick in high school.

by Anonymousreply 108September 23, 2021 11:00 PM

Supervisor Sheila Kuehl

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by Anonymousreply 109September 23, 2021 11:58 PM

Dana Delaney

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by Anonymousreply 110September 24, 2021 1:24 AM

A DL iconic moment, of course.

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by Anonymousreply 111September 24, 2021 1:29 AM

Joe Carstairs, Fastest Woman on the Water

[quote]Throughout her life, Marion “Joe” Carstairs challenged assumptions and expectations of her proper place in society. An out-and-proud lesbian in a time when British women were still seen as extensions of their husbands’ property, the Standard Oil heir took advantage of her immense wealth and privilege and traveled the world, dated some of the world’s most beautiful and famous women, and, for a brief time in her illustrious life, became the world’s top female speedboat racer. Throwing herself wholeheartedly into the sport, Carstairs spent significant resources on attempting to build a motorboat capable of winning her the Harmsworth Trophy, the highest prize in motorboat racing at the time, and bringing her the respect of her competitors and detractors alike. Fastest Woman on the Water would explore Carstairs’s larger-than-life persona and the symbol of athletic validation that thrice eluded her.

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by Anonymousreply 112September 24, 2021 1:32 AM

Tex Gill

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by Anonymousreply 113September 24, 2021 1:35 AM

Interesting that Nancy Culp and Sheila Kuehl were cast as unattractive women who kept slobbering over men who were creeped out by them.

What were the other roles in which lesbians hid in plain sight?

by Anonymousreply 114September 24, 2021 1:49 AM

Match Game favorite, Fried Green Tomatoes writer and one time partner of Rita Mae Brown, I give you Fannie Flagg!

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by Anonymousreply 115September 24, 2021 1:58 AM

And here’s to the lezzies who lunch

Eating their nut loaf

by Anonymousreply 116September 24, 2021 2:00 AM

R114- Jo on The Facts Of Life- her very first appearance on the show she rides a motorcycle to the school and walks into the building and Blair and Natalie thinks SHE is a HE- I know she was young then but I had to mention her.

by Anonymousreply 117September 24, 2021 2:20 AM

Jo as JOE

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by Anonymousreply 118September 24, 2021 2:21 AM

The ultra femme Dorothy Azner, pioneering director (and pussy licker.)

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by Anonymousreply 119September 24, 2021 2:23 AM

Forever brilliant, forever goddess

Forever Dusty

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by Anonymousreply 120September 24, 2021 2:26 AM

And speaking of old dykes and Dusty's spring field.....

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by Anonymousreply 121September 24, 2021 2:27 AM

R114- Another LESBIAN hiding in plain site.

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by Anonymousreply 122September 24, 2021 2:29 AM

A young Jodie Foster demonstrates her technique.

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by Anonymousreply 123September 24, 2021 2:35 AM

Excuse me! I'm a Lez Legend!

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by Anonymousreply 124September 24, 2021 2:39 AM

Mrs. Bundy ( there NEVER was a Mr. Bundy) from The Birds

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by Anonymousreply 125September 24, 2021 4:24 AM


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by Anonymousreply 126September 24, 2021 4:56 AM

The FABULOUS chanteuse and Gong Show panelist JAYE P MORGAN!

Never married or faked it. She'll be 90 years old in Dec.

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by Anonymousreply 127September 24, 2021 3:07 PM

I didn't know Jaye P did the Lez Lez!

by Anonymousreply 128September 24, 2021 3:23 PM

Lezabeth Scott

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by Anonymousreply 129September 24, 2021 4:31 PM

R102 Let's review: What is the polar opposite of an old lez? How about a crazy-for-dick gay male senator?

by Anonymousreply 130September 24, 2021 7:36 PM

R130 the joke was that the Senatrice LOOKS like an old lesbian.

by Anonymousreply 131September 24, 2021 7:54 PM
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by Anonymousreply 132September 24, 2021 7:59 PM

Thankful to them both.

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by Anonymousreply 133September 24, 2021 8:01 PM

Any reference to Buddy Ebsen has to include this gem.

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by Anonymousreply 134September 24, 2021 8:25 PM

Gurl please

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by Anonymousreply 135September 25, 2021 2:35 AM

Taken from us too soon:

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by Anonymousreply 136September 25, 2021 4:00 AM

You bitches are slipping. 134 replies and nobody mentioned me!

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by Anonymousreply 137September 25, 2021 4:29 AM

When did Kate Smith become a confirmed lezzie? Just because she never married...I always thought she was more asexual than anything, with a healthy dose of Jesus (who she was always singing about).

I'd hate to be the wardrobe person who washed out her dirty pantyhose.

I'm loving seeing all this lezzie love on the DL - thank heaven for all these good ladies who get it done (even though society has always made it doubly difficult for them).

by Anonymousreply 138September 25, 2021 3:28 PM

Kate Smith was an obsessed Catholic, not a lesbian, R138.

by Anonymousreply 139September 25, 2021 3:35 PM
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by Anonymousreply 140September 25, 2021 3:37 PM

Wrong again, R140

by Anonymousreply 141September 25, 2021 3:48 PM

Again? When was I wrong before, sweet pea?

by Anonymousreply 142September 25, 2021 3:53 PM

Suze Orman

by Anonymousreply 143September 25, 2021 4:08 PM

R132, Marjorie Main was Spring's partner.

by Anonymousreply 144September 25, 2021 4:11 PM

Anyone mention Lily Tomlin, Jane Wagner or Ruth Buzzi?

by Anonymousreply 145September 25, 2021 4:17 PM

You did R145

by Anonymousreply 146September 25, 2021 4:19 PM

Pat St Clement and Patricia Routledge dating blows my mind

by Anonymousreply 147September 25, 2021 4:27 PM

Legendary rocker Joan Jett!

From Wikipedia: In a 2018 interview with the New York Times, when asked about how an LGBT film festival did not want to show her documentary because she was not "out", Jett said: "They don't want the movie there because I don't declare? [Holding up her necklace of a labrys] What the [expletive] is that? Two labryses, or axes, crossing each other, inside of two women's symbols crossing each other. It's not been off since I got it. And I wear this one every day. [She turns around, lifts her shirt and reveals a tattoo with similar female symbols on her lower back.] I don't know how much more you can declare."[97]

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by Anonymousreply 148September 25, 2021 4:31 PM

Anyone remember Remington Steele? Stephanie Zimbalist is turning 65 in two weeks making her an elder lez!

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by Anonymousreply 149September 25, 2021 4:44 PM


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by Anonymousreply 150September 25, 2021 4:46 PM

I didn’t know about the labrys double axe being a symbol for lesbians. It makes sense though: axe, hatchet wound, etc.

by Anonymousreply 151September 25, 2021 5:23 PM

Angie Merkel

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by Anonymousreply 152September 25, 2021 5:40 PM
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by Anonymousreply 153September 25, 2021 5:41 PM

The labrys is a lesbian symbol because of its generally ancient Greek origins and more specifically because axes were associated with Amazons in mythology.

by Anonymousreply 154September 25, 2021 5:48 PM

[quote]I didn’t know about the labrys double axe being a symbol for lesbians.

More specifically, lesbian feminism.

by Anonymousreply 155September 25, 2021 6:04 PM

Our Gina has a labrys tattoo in BOUND.

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by Anonymousreply 156September 25, 2021 7:19 PM

Boy, it took a long time for someone to mention Lily Tomlin!

Kathleen Freeman was perhaps my all-time favorite Dyke (capitalization intended). God, she was great!

But it's Broadway star Cherry Jones, with her warm, deep voice and intelligent intensity, who really shakes me up. Thank god she's a Lesbian -if she were straight she just might convert me!

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by Anonymousreply 157September 25, 2021 8:00 PM

Honestly I thought someone mentioned Jane and Lily up top, I thought of them several times.

by Anonymousreply 158September 25, 2021 8:43 PM

Jean Smart

by Anonymousreply 159September 25, 2021 10:59 PM

Nana Visitor- Kira Nerys on Star Trek: Deep Space Nine

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by Anonymousreply 160September 25, 2021 11:16 PM

Ellen Corby, Grandma Walton.

by Anonymousreply 161September 26, 2021 2:42 AM

Delta Dawn, what’s that thing you’ve got strapped on?

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by Anonymousreply 162September 26, 2021 3:12 AM

It's her party and she'll make the lez-lez if she wants to!

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by Anonymousreply 163September 26, 2021 3:33 AM

Diane Keaton. With Sarah Paulson. In matching black and white. AT A MILEY CYRUS CONCERT.

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by Anonymousreply 164September 26, 2021 4:21 AM

I love older lesbians. I’ve known a few. One was a co-worker. Guess who?

by Anonymousreply 165September 26, 2021 5:39 AM

R165- Beatrice Arthur

But Betty White is a LESBO too.

by Anonymousreply 166September 26, 2021 5:46 AM

Lezzlie Charleson aka Monica Quartermaine

by Anonymousreply 167September 26, 2021 6:07 AM

^^ she had dry dyke face for days.

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by Anonymousreply 168September 26, 2021 6:17 AM

Hmmm. A very nice pic of Angela Lansbury in her youth. I assume she plays on the same team as Greta Garbo.

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by Anonymousreply 169September 26, 2021 6:49 AM

Debbie Harry

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by Anonymousreply 170September 26, 2021 6:51 AM

No wonder Keaton's clothes often look masculine. She is a lez. Never thought of her that way.

by Anonymousreply 171September 26, 2021 7:16 AM

Angela Lansbury is definitely not a lez. In fact, the only blemish on her otherwise-excellent LGBTQ+++++ record is that misguided quote from 2013 about women turning to lesbianism because there weren't enough men around -or something like that. It was a statement she later apologized for, confessing her own ignorance. Her first husband was gay, and she genuinely didn't know. She had a long and happy second marriage (with children). I know neither of those prove anything, of course -But just because she is a gay icon doesn't make her gay either.

There are plenty of wonderful, elder vagitarians out there -the group doesn't need her to shine. :)

by Anonymousreply 172September 26, 2021 7:27 AM

[quote]Nana Visitor- Kira Nerys on Star Trek: Deep Space Nine

Nana Visitor is not a lesbian. But she is the niece of Cyd Charisse.

by Anonymousreply 173September 26, 2021 7:53 AM

Mary Ann aka Dawn Wells of Gilligan's Island fame. Aside from dinner theater, her career never took off after the show...maybe by her design ;)

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by Anonymousreply 174September 26, 2021 1:18 PM

R174 coconut pie was a euphemism when Dawn was around

by Anonymousreply 175September 26, 2021 1:20 PM

So many newswomen, national and local.

Wasn't Savitch a lez?

by Anonymousreply 176September 26, 2021 1:39 PM

Jessica and Sue Simmons = VERY close

by Anonymousreply 177September 26, 2021 2:08 PM

Robin Roberts

by Anonymousreply 178September 26, 2021 2:11 PM

Ooops! Forgot about Robin Roberts. Thanks, R176!

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by Anonymousreply 179September 26, 2021 2:45 PM

I always got lezzie vibes from the four-times married (to men) Linda Ellerbee.

by Anonymousreply 180September 26, 2021 2:52 PM

I'm croning as we speak!

by Anonymousreply 181September 26, 2021 2:56 PM

Did anyone post Wanda Sykes yet?

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by Anonymousreply 182September 26, 2021 3:18 PM

I guess if we're including Robin then Wanda's in there too

though fiftysomething isn't exactly "elderlez"

R180 I agree.

by Anonymousreply 183September 26, 2021 3:25 PM

R176 In the books about her she comes off as nearly asexual but but infer she enjoyed ladyparts .

by Anonymousreply 184September 26, 2021 3:25 PM

Wow, R183 -- I thought she was older than that. But she's only 57.

So much for "black don't crack."

by Anonymousreply 185September 26, 2021 3:28 PM

[quote]R176 So many newswomen, national and local. Wasn't Savitch a lez?

She did marry her gynecologist. That’s suspicious. Was he the keeper of its secrets?

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by Anonymousreply 186September 27, 2021 4:15 AM

Weren't Jessica Savitch and Sue Simmons an item for a New York minute?

by Anonymousreply 187September 27, 2021 5:07 PM

R187, they were "roommates." And it's been discussed above.

by Anonymousreply 188September 27, 2021 5:09 PM

R186 he was gay.

by Anonymousreply 189September 28, 2021 2:16 AM

I don't know which concept is worse-- (a) a gay gynecologist or (b) a woman marrying her straight one.


by Anonymousreply 190September 28, 2021 3:33 AM

Jessica never figured herself out. She gave men what she thought they wanted, only to get beat up in one way or another. She had Judy Garland syndrome.

Cynthia McFadden on the other hand…

by Anonymousreply 191September 28, 2021 3:41 AM

One of the greatest and most legendary Elder Lezzies is responsible for some of the greatest and most subversive children’s literature of all time. Ursula Nordstrom ruled the world of children’s publishing for close to five decades at Harper Brothers and single handily discovered and promoted some of the greatest Lesbian and Gay children’s writers and illustrators of all time, culminating in Maurice Sendak whose portrait of her is here. Almost Elder Lezzies Margaret Wise Brown (Goodnight Moon, Runaway Bunny) and Louise Fitzhugh (Harriet the Spy and sequels) would have attained that status if they both hadn’t died young. She discovered Shel Silverstein in the pages of Playboy magazine from his irreverent cartoons. She said she wanted to make “good books for bad children.” And had one of the biggest bitch fights in the history of lesbians that lasted decades with the head of the NY Public Library’s children’s services with Anne Carrol Moore, who was a wicked, wicked cunt!

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by Anonymousreply 192September 28, 2021 8:16 AM

So, here’s my Nancy Culp story. In Pennsylvania, not far outside of Gettysburg there is a summer stock theater in a state forest called Totempole Playhouse that was owned and operated by well known homosexual William Putch and his wife Jean Stapleton, yes Edith Bunker was married to a gay man, and they had children. In 1984, the year after he died, Jean was carrying on with the season and as a young gayling theater nerd my parents took me to see “You Can’t Take it with You,” which they had both starred in during a high school production. Ms. Culp was in the audience that night and it was electric as she was leading up to the election and her name was everywhere again, although the theatre wasn’t technically in the voting district. At the intermission she was swarmed with admirers and then afterwards outside the theater in the woods a huge crowd gathered and she graciously chatted and shook hands with everyone and even I got to meet her and tell her how much my family loved The Beverly Hillbillies. It was very heady, as south central Pennsylvania didn’t have many known TV stars from Hollywood!

by Anonymousreply 193September 28, 2021 8:34 AM

[quote]R193 yes Edith Bunker was married to a gay man

Well, really, not to put too fine a point on it, but I doubt straight men were beating down her door (?)

by Anonymousreply 194September 28, 2021 8:52 AM

R94- More important- Was Jean Stapleton a lesbian?

by Anonymousreply 195September 28, 2021 3:25 PM

R195 That was not a rumor that circulated in Pennsylvania, I think she spent most of her time in California while he was based more in PA.

by Anonymousreply 196September 28, 2021 3:31 PM

[quote]She had Judy Garland syndrome.

Bi-polar drug addict

by Anonymousreply 197September 28, 2021 4:07 PM

Half of the women here aren't/weren't even lesbians.

by Anonymousreply 198September 28, 2021 4:36 PM

Which half?

by Anonymousreply 199September 28, 2021 4:38 PM

R199 The straight/bi half

by Anonymousreply 200September 28, 2021 4:40 PM

I mean Dana Delaney, Liza Minnelli, Dianne Keaton...?

by Anonymousreply 201September 28, 2021 4:42 PM

Yeah... Dana Delaney... she dated... eh... Jeffery Self!

by Anonymousreply 202September 28, 2021 4:44 PM

Liza likes Lisa but Chita put a stop to it.

by Anonymousreply 203September 28, 2021 4:44 PM

Liza likes Lisa but Chita put a stop to it.

by Anonymousreply 204September 28, 2021 4:45 PM

R198 is one of those insecure lesbianphobes who gets agita when a favorite of his may not 'love cock' as much as he does.

R201, Liza Minnelli is at least bi-sexual. I don't understand the surprise. She's probably more lesbian that not but too screwed up to know.

by Anonymousreply 205September 28, 2021 4:45 PM

Jean’s son John Putch always pinged to me, especially when he was on ONE DAY AT A TIME.

by Anonymousreply 206September 28, 2021 6:08 PM

R205 is one of those insecure delusional DLers who think 99% of population is gay. Or any older person that isn't married and has 20 kids is a closeted homosexual.

by Anonymousreply 207September 28, 2021 7:42 PM

But only the good looking ones, R207.

by Anonymousreply 208September 28, 2021 7:48 PM

R205 " Liza Minnelli is at least bi-sexual"

- yeah, sure. Cause you say so. Also, bisexual and gay are two different things.

by Anonymousreply 209September 28, 2021 7:52 PM

True dat, r209.

by Anonymousreply 210September 28, 2021 7:56 PM

R209 - teetering of the edge of a make believe nightmare!

by Anonymousreply 211September 29, 2021 2:42 AM

R211 Wut?

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by Anonymousreply 212September 29, 2021 7:00 PM

There’s tons of elder Lez representation in this new HBO documentary series.

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by Anonymousreply 213September 29, 2021 7:13 PM

That is one ugly dude R212.

by Anonymousreply 214September 29, 2021 10:51 PM

Connie Britton

by Anonymousreply 215September 30, 2021 12:30 AM

People are just throwing out random names.

by Anonymousreply 216September 30, 2021 1:19 AM

Mrs. Butterworth.

by Anonymousreply 217September 30, 2021 1:35 AM


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by Anonymousreply 218September 30, 2021 1:39 AM

Willa Cather

"She spent the last 39 years of her life with her domestic partner, Edith Lewis, before being diagnosed with breast cancer and dying of a cerebral hemorrhage. She is buried alongside Lewis in a Jaffrey, New Hampshire plot. "

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by Anonymousreply 220September 30, 2021 2:10 AM

R214, he’s revealed his identity after ten years of being an anonymous meme and he’s pretty cute.

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by Anonymousreply 221September 30, 2021 2:14 AM

can't mention Ethel Waters and not point out....

Carson McCullers

McCullers fell in love with a number of women and pursued them sexually with great determination, but seems not to have succeeded in finding mutual attraction. Her most documented and extended love obsession was with Annemarie Schwarzenbach, of whom she once wrote "She had a face that I knew would haunt me for the rest of my life." In her autobiography, McCullers reports that the two shared one kiss. McCullers' passion, however, was not reciprocated, and the two remained friends with McCullers dedicating her next novel, Reflections in a Golden Eye, to her.[14][15] Sarah Schulman writes:

There is the infamous obsession with Katherine Anne Porter and a much-implied ongoing “friendship” with Gypsy Rose Lee. But if Carson ever actually had sex with a woman, even Tennessee [Williams] didn't hear of it. According to McCullers's brilliant biographer, Virginia Spencer Carr, Carson did brag to her male cousin that she'd had sex with Gypsy once. But if that was the case, she never mentioned it to any of her gay friends. In the absence of reciprocated lesbian love and the inability to consummate lesbian sex, McCullers still wore a lesbian persona in literature and in life. She clearly wrote against the grain of heterosexual convention, wore men's clothes, was outrageously aggressive in her consistently failed search for sex and love with another woman, and formed primary friendships with other gay people.[14

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by Anonymousreply 223September 30, 2021 2:22 AM

I know I’ve been over here in the shadows ignoring you, but you couldn’t possible have forgotten about me could you?

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by Anonymousreply 224September 30, 2021 2:24 AM

I had them all....Virginia, Violet, Harold, Mary, Hilda, and that hot menage a trois with Evelyn and Olive. I was insatiable

"Woolf was often bothered by what she viewed as Sackville-West's promiscuity, charging that Sackville-West's great need for sex led her to take up with anyone who struck her fancy."

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by Anonymousreply 225September 30, 2021 2:26 AM

they didn't get more elder or more lezzie than moi

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by Anonymousreply 226September 30, 2021 2:32 AM

What about me, Gertrude?

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by Anonymousreply 227September 30, 2021 1:07 PM

R193 Confirming what you said, a friend went to Totem Pole Playhouse to get his Equity card. Bull Putch hit on every young male apprentice.

by Anonymousreply 228September 30, 2021 1:12 PM

How about LaRue/Viola Beverly Archer? Certainly seemed like a lesbian.

by Anonymousreply 229September 30, 2021 2:00 PM

What about Candy Crowley? Always loved her energy on CNN.

by Anonymousreply 230October 1, 2021 4:03 AM

I just finished reading Colm Toibin’s novel about Thomas Mann called The Magician. He managed to basically repress his homosexuality, but it popped up in three of his six children. Erika Mann comes directly out of Cabaret and in fact ran very subversive cabarets in Germany and Switzerland. She asked Isherwood to marry her so she could get out of Germany and have British citizenship, he declined, but past her onto Auden who did and they remained married for life, though never lived together. She lead a fascinating life.

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by Anonymousreply 231October 1, 2021 5:51 AM

[quote]What about Candy Crowley? Always loved her energy on CNN.

Her "energy" was Type 2 diabetes.

by Anonymousreply 232October 1, 2021 7:42 AM

Yikes, R227. Alice B. Toklas got beaten with the ugly stick.

by Anonymousreply 233October 1, 2021 7:45 AM

DL used to have an always hungry and very funny Candy Crawley poster.

by Anonymousreply 234October 1, 2021 2:31 PM

How about former DL fave, CNN's Suzanne Malveaux?

She was so popular here once, and she's now in her mid-50s:

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by Anonymousreply 235October 1, 2021 3:22 PM

OMG! Wiki says Suzanne is in a relationship with Karine Jean-Pierre! Didn't know that.

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by Anonymousreply 236October 1, 2021 3:27 PM

Bernadette Peters?

by Anonymousreply 237October 1, 2021 3:31 PM

R237 = not bright

by Anonymousreply 238October 1, 2021 3:39 PM

R235 She's only 53. That's not elder.

by Anonymousreply 239October 1, 2021 5:03 PM

R239, her date of birth is Dec 4, 1966. 55 on that date.

by Anonymousreply 240October 1, 2021 5:05 PM

Silly R239. Here on the DataLounge, anything north of 39 is absolutely antiquated!

by Anonymousreply 241October 1, 2021 5:10 PM

My, Gertrude Stein sure had a mannish face. Here's Alice, looking more lady like.

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by Anonymousreply 242October 1, 2021 5:13 PM

Patricia Highsmith.

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by Anonymousreply 243October 1, 2021 5:42 PM

DL gays looooove lezzies like Gertrude Stein, not so much for the Suzanne Malveaux type. The only ones I've known have been the latter.

by Anonymousreply 244October 1, 2021 5:48 PM

[quote]R239 She's only 53. That's not elder.

ESPECIALLY when you just look 36!

by Anonymousreply 245October 1, 2021 11:09 PM

r55 Dinah Shore wasn't a lesbian. She just had a LPGA tournament in Palm Springs named after her. (Neither was Mary Wickes for that matter.]

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by Anonymousreply 246October 2, 2021 12:13 AM

Margaret Hamilton was confirmed to be an elder "lesbitarian" according to DL fave Bruce Vilanch. Apparently she had lived on the DL for years, but by the time they did the Paul Lynde Halloween Special, she was pretty much out and on the prowl! Bless her.

Broadway's Patricia Morison was allegedly family as well.

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by Anonymousreply 247October 2, 2021 12:30 AM

We mustn't forget about our dear, delightful Miriam Margolyes either! Perhaps the greatest Graham Norton guest... And she just released a terrific memoir (available on Audible)

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by Anonymousreply 248October 2, 2021 12:33 AM

No one forgot Miriam. She was checked in upon arrival upthread.

by Anonymousreply 249October 2, 2021 1:39 AM

VITA! R225 How wonderful. But where Vita goes, surely there must be Violet. She is the unexploded bomb in her life. And also I just love the hat.

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by Anonymousreply 250October 2, 2021 2:00 AM

Well, if you’re going to play that game, let’s toss in Nazimova.

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by Anonymousreply 251October 2, 2021 5:42 AM

Oh - I didn’t know this…!

[italic]”Mary’s, owned by Nazimova, was a dyke bar on the Sunset Strip opposite Café Gala, a gay bar that by the 1930s was home away from home for Cole Porter.“

by Anonymousreply 252October 2, 2021 5:46 AM

I was going to start a Favorite Lesbians thread, but will list mine here:

Lily Tomlin: Michigan Legend

Patty Schemel: Hole drummer

Joan Jett: Eats out bi-curious young Hollywood (Lindsay Lohan, Pink, Carmen Electra, Christina Aguilera)

Alla Nazimova: Started "Sewing Circles" in Classic Hollywood

by Anonymousreply 253October 2, 2021 5:48 AM

Another elder lesbian writer.

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by Anonymousreply 254October 2, 2021 5:56 AM

^^ I am SHOCKED!

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by Anonymousreply 255October 2, 2021 6:00 AM

PS: is she the one that murdered her girlhood friend’s mom, in “Heavenly Creatures”?

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by Anonymousreply 256October 2, 2021 6:01 AM

A wonderful Irene Ryan story!

My mother used to be the P.A. for Nancy Kulp back in the day when good ol Nance had the dough for a P.A. (post Parent Trap). Anyway, Nance had just gone through a very rigorous audition process in order to get the role of Ms. Jane Hathaway, on what would become the landmark televison series "The Beverly Hillbilly's". She was assigned a dressing room with an actress she had never heard of named one Ms. Irene Ryan. Well, Nance and Irene got along famously from the get go, though, apparantly, Nance was apprehensive about letting Irene know about her diggin the ladies, seeing as how Irene was 86 at the time, Nance suspected she might not take to kindly to having a lady co-star who liked to shave other gals Hams.

Well, how funny was it when after a long day of shooting, Irene packed up the castor oil and bag of hair that she always had with her and left the lot for the day. Nance thought that she had free reign of the trailer for the rest of the evening and invited a delightful Nubian extra named Puma into her trailer for some dinner and some hot finger fucking !!! Well no sooner had our girl Nance gotten up to her shoulder in Puma's girl than Irene walked in, Nance told my mom that she was caught "black handed" by dear granny herself. Well, Nance was ashamed and had it not been for her damned collatta ring gett ing caught on some of Puma's internal lady skin she would have had her arm out of her in an instant. Irene just looked at the tw o of them in their "compromising position" and chuckled. You could have knocked Nance over with a feather. Apparantly, she was bright red so Irene soothed her fears and told her not to worry, she was totally cool with the fact that Nance liked to bump waffles and then proceeded to lift up her skirt and show her the tiniest pair of balls that Nance had ever seen (granted, Nance probably didn't see too many balls in her day, but still). Irene then explained that while she was all lady, she happened to have be en born with a pair of vestigal testicals right underneath her clitoris.

Ever since then Irene and Nance remained busom pals til Irene's death in 1974 and Nance never revealed her secret, except to a few close personal friends. Now that is friendship!!

by Anonymousreply 257October 2, 2021 6:08 AM

R256, that was Anne Perry.

by Anonymousreply 258October 2, 2021 7:14 AM

Irene Ryan was 70 years old when she died in 1973 R257. Irene was around 60 years old when she started The Beverly Hillbillies. Makes your whole story suspect when you claim she was 86 years old.

by Anonymousreply 259October 2, 2021 11:59 AM

Ha ha ha, R257. Very creative. But "for some dinner and some hot finger fucking" is just too stupid.

by Anonymousreply 260October 2, 2021 3:59 PM

[quote] Makes your whole story suspect when you claim she was 86 years old.

You actually thought that was a true story? It had "Bad DL Creative Writing" written all over it.

by Anonymousreply 261October 2, 2021 6:56 PM

Cornwell's enthusiasm for cosmetic surgery did surprise me.

by Anonymousreply 262October 2, 2021 7:09 PM

I stopped reading it after he said she was 86 years old R261

by Anonymousreply 263October 2, 2021 7:35 PM

Consider yourself lucky, R263.

by Anonymousreply 264October 2, 2021 8:07 PM

R258 As one who likes Miriam, I worry about her carrying all that extra weight.

by Anonymousreply 265October 2, 2021 8:29 PM

Oops I meant not R258 but whoever posted about Margolies. Which I'm probably misspelling. Whatever.

by Anonymousreply 266October 2, 2021 8:33 PM

R254 Ew, she's a republican.

by Anonymousreply 267October 2, 2021 10:18 PM

Old biddy dykes really got it going on!

by Anonymousreply 268October 2, 2021 10:25 PM

Diane Bish of The Joy of Music fame, fired by Coral Ridge Presbyterian for her lesbishious tendencies.

by Anonymousreply 269October 2, 2021 11:48 PM

[quote]R268 Old biddy dykes really got it going on!

Biddies in da house ! !

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by Anonymousreply 271October 3, 2021 6:34 PM

[italic]Biddies Gone Wild[/italic] (Barely Legal edition)

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by Anonymousreply 272October 3, 2021 6:36 PM

Mrs. Bundy in “The Birds.”

by Anonymousreply 273October 4, 2021 2:38 AM

Susan Flannery

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by Anonymousreply 274October 21, 2021 7:26 PM

A nephew or cousin of Ms. Kulp was/is? an educator in my town. I never had him for class, but he dated one of my teachers and they eventually married. I would see him often. He looked just like Nancy Kulp only a little more heavy set.

by Anonymousreply 275October 21, 2021 7:32 PM
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