'Pose' creator planned to thank Marsha P. Johnson and Sylvia Rivera in his winner's speech

Why award a show about these queens, when we can give yet another statue to a show about the OG queen over in England?

It's not like she gets enough recognition these days. Her face is only on some coins and bills.

Dumb fuck. Glad he didn't win so he could continue perpetrating this stupid lie.

YAS KWEEN! I’d like to thank a pair or druggies and a thief who used to mug and rob gay men.

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And then you look for pictures of the Stonewall riots and you find a lot of gay white faces

Apparently no gays or lesbians whatsoever were at Stonewall.

Who knew?

Only gay white faces, really. Maybe one black dude. Okay, two.

Cable shows trump history books.

Feel free to let him know the truth:

The protests and marches that happened after Stonewall had plenty of non-white faces. For some reason the anti-trans trolls always want to talk about the night of the riot itself and then dismiss literally EVERYTHING that came afterwards, because the photos of those later protests, events and marches show it wasn't all white men.

At least he mentioned Storme, which is more than most of them do.

R10 Of course there were a lot of non white faces, but listening to some trans activist it seems there was no gays or no lesbians and specially no whites when they were the big majority

r10, you know that's not what people like Canals are talking about.

Although, if you really want to go there, watch a movie like Gay U.S.A. (1977), which shows footage from Pride parades across America in the mid-70s; while it was definitely diverse, it was predominately white.

Canals mentioned women, lesbians, trans, blacks and Latinas, and you trolls are saying it was a "lie" and it was really all "gay white faces."

Should have put more effort into the final season and less effort in an acceptance speech.

Stonewall veterans float 12 years ago in 2009 with a trans veteran of the riot. I'm sure you'll say it's just propaganda and a lie.

r14, that picture is not from Stonewall. It's from the 1966 Compton's Cafeteria protest:

Let's just ignore the women and non-whites in this "predominantly gay white" movement because there weren't many of them.

I know r17! That's my whole fucking point! That you guys talk non-stop about the first night of Stonewall and say that the handful of photos we have of that night are all gay white men, therefore, they are the people who were responsible for the movement.

They're not. Plenty of events, protests, riots, and marches before and after Stonewall had plenty of women, lesbians, trans, blacks and Latinas involved, just like Canals said, but you guys always ignore those on purpose because it doesn't fit your agenda.

It's not about ignoring the women and non-whites, it's pushing back against the TRA's assertion that it was ONLY trans POC responsible for Stonewall and gay rights.

Bayard Rustin did FAR more for gay rights than Malcolm Johnson ever did, yet Rustin barely gets mentioned these days.

When will we finally honor the vital role of trans women of color in the American Revolution? That was no “stamp tax” that riled them up. It was a “tramp tax” and it was especially burdensome on sex workers, some of whom were at the docks for the Boston Tea Party. They spilled the tea, honey. HONOR THEM.

r19, we're clearly talking at cross-purposes, as I'm making the same argument as you are, except that my perception, as stated at r20, is that the TRA camp persists in the narrative that it was ONLY trans POC who got us to where we are today, which is a bald-faced lie -- it was the work of gay men and lesbians, white, black, Hispanic, Asian, etc., who fought for gay rights for over a century.

R19, I see ONE black person in the photo you're presenting as evidence. Do better.

[quote] They're not. Plenty of events, protests, riots, and marches before and after Stonewall had plenty of women, lesbians, trans, blacks and Latinas involved, just like Canals said, but you guys always ignore those on purpose because it doesn't fit your agenda.

Actually, your agenda is complete bullshit. Prior to Stonewall, the Mattachine Society and the Daughters of Bilitis were the real gay pioneers, a group of lesbian and gay MEN AND WOMEN, predominantly white, none tranny.

[quote]Prior to Stonewall, the Mattachine Society and the Daughters of Bilitis were the real gay pioneers, a group of lesbian and gay MEN AND WOMEN

Seriously. I wish Del Martin and Phyllis Lyon got 1/100 of the attention that Marsha and Sylvia get. True pioneers and heroes.

At least he didn't include a 'minute of silence'.

"Pose", Jesus. I thought the men were shallow enough in "Paris is Burning" long ago. This is still going on?

"built on the backs of the women"... hardly. Make him go away.

They don't get the same recognition because the alphabet train's agenda is to erase gay history. Gay men and women are responsible for their own history, nobody fought for us. We did it all ourselves.

The Trans and Queer brigade can fuck off.

R16, are you sure that person is trans and not a drag queen? I know it's a favourite tactic of the trans cult to claim that every pre-2015 drag queen was trans, but that's really a distortion of history. That person may not even have been a drag queen at Stonewall in 1969, because the original photos don't show many drag queens either.

The rest of the Stonewall veterans on that float are old white guys. Basically, by presenting that photo, all you've done is prove that the Stonewall rioters were 90% white gay men.

"I know it's a favourite tactic of the trans cult to claim that every pre-2015 drag queen was trans" - Because every post-2015 drag queen is automatically "trans".

I get preparing comments in hopes that you win. And, reading them to your friends would make sense. Honoring those women is great - honor them. Prefacing it with "the Emmy speech I never got to give"? Not necessary.

Marsha P. Johnson threw the first chest of tea into the Boston Harbor igniting the revolutionary Boston Tea Party protest.

No way was he going to win. His show is terribly written, no matter how worthy its subject matter may be. I'm tired of people pretending otherwise.

I am so grateful "Pose" is over so we won't have to see any more of Billy "Thirst Personified" Porter on the red carpets for a good long while.

I wish, r34. That judgmental face is going to appear on red carpets until he's on his deathbed, I'm afraid.

[quote]Stonewall veterans float 12 years ago in 2009 with a trans veteran of the riot. I'm sure you'll say it's just propaganda and a lie.

Back when one flag covered us all.

But honey, you DIDN'T WIN.

Canals only mentioned one woman, r31.

Jesus you guys are such losers. This must be the 50th identical thread on this topic. Get a life.

[quote] “The reason I get to stand up here as an openly queer Afro-Latin person is because of my ancestors,” Canals would have said if he had made it up on stage at the Emmys. In 1969 the fight for trans and queer liberation reached a fever pitch, built on the backs of the women, who happened to be trans and lesbian. Who happened to be Black and Latina. And so I want to honour Marsha P Johnson, Sylvia Rivera, Miss Major, and Stormé DeLarverie. And that work continues today with Mj Rodgriguez, Dominique Jackson, Indya Moore, Hailie Sahar, Angelica Ross, Our Lady J and Janet Mock.”

A simple "thank you" would have been much, much better.

R19, it's kind of funny that most of the pics you are sharing have MOSTLY WHITE people in them.

Gay Emmys should wear tiny falsies.

[quote]Gay Emmys should wear tiny falsies.

That would make them Trannys.

Why would you release your winner's speech when you DIDN'T win?

This makes this the LOSER'S speech.

"I'd like to thank Marsha P. Johnson and Sylvia Rivera for my losing this award..."

Who can forget the kickline of drag queens in their stilleto boots and pickelhaubes leading the charge against oppressive conformity!

While I actually don't have a problem with him mentioning folks like Marsha, Sylvia, Stormé and Miss Major, what I do take issue with is comparing these incredible individuals to a group of famous actors who happen to be trans. As wonderful as it is to see more representation, these folks weren't famous entertainers. They were doing actual work, on the ground, in the trenches, and they paid for it with the lives and livelihood. It's just not the same as a group of folks who are similar in identity, but in positions of actual privilege in the entertainment industry, in the context of 2021. Do these kids not get how ridiculous that sounds? Then, don't even get me started on the complete erasure of the actual history and contributions of actual gays and lesbians...

Canals spent as much time researching Stonewall and Gay History as he did writing his scripts....almost none!

Trust me, we will never hear from these people ever again!

Marsha and Sylvia were a couple of junkie street whores who had serious mental and emotional problems.

Del Martin and Phyllis Lyon don't get anywhere near the attention they deserve. They were true pioneers.