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Courtney's New Pixie Cut

Fabulous... or frau-ish?

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by Anonymousreply 144October 16, 2021 2:15 AM

I actually like it!

At first I thought it was strange to see her with such hair but I remember she chopped it all off in 2004 during her crazy years.

by Anonymousreply 1September 20, 2021 1:59 AM

It actually looks good on her. I’m not a fan of short hair on women generally, but whatever.

She looks healthy and… normal.

by Anonymousreply 2September 20, 2021 1:59 AM

Sandy Duncan

by Anonymousreply 3September 20, 2021 1:59 AM

I really like that look on her

by Anonymousreply 4September 20, 2021 1:59 AM

Ann Romano as a blonde

by Anonymousreply 5September 20, 2021 2:02 AM

Wow I like it.

by Anonymousreply 6September 20, 2021 2:03 AM

It’s hits her. Having long hair must get annoying after awhile

by Anonymousreply 7September 20, 2021 2:06 AM

She looks like Random White Lady from a Shonda Rhimes show.

by Anonymousreply 8September 20, 2021 2:09 AM

Face lift! If you don’t want people to focus on your face lift you cut your hair short.

by Anonymousreply 9September 20, 2021 2:10 AM

The surgeon got her nose crooked. Or maybe it's the best he could do. I know she got a tiny nose in the mid-90s for her burgeoning movie career (which burgeoned-out). Then she got one that better fit her face. But it's been slightly crooked ever since, with what looks like a scar on its right side. Maybe she had destroyed it doing coke?

by Anonymousreply 10September 20, 2021 2:11 AM

I love it. Or as the kids say, “Love this for you!”

by Anonymousreply 11September 20, 2021 2:12 AM

She wants to show off her new cheekbone implants. It's obvious she had them. You can SEE tham.

by Anonymousreply 12September 20, 2021 2:12 AM

She actually looks better than I’ve seen her for a while.

by Anonymousreply 13September 20, 2021 2:13 AM

I think given all the plastic surgery she’s had over the years, she doesn’t look so freakish. I mean she looks better than Madonna and they’re only a few years apart.

by Anonymousreply 14September 20, 2021 2:15 AM

Agreed, she does look better than Madonna

by Anonymousreply 15September 20, 2021 2:17 AM

I look better than Madonna

by Anonymousreply 16September 20, 2021 2:28 AM

She looks WAY better than Madonna. Courtney doesn’t look like she has ghastly, gigantic fillers and implants that need to be removed. Madonna’s face basically looks BOTCHED.

by Anonymousreply 17September 20, 2021 2:44 AM

I hate it

by Anonymousreply 18September 20, 2021 2:47 AM

has she always had different sized eyes?

by Anonymousreply 19September 20, 2021 2:52 AM

The mistake here is the 1975 brown going-to-the-office outfit.

by Anonymousreply 20September 20, 2021 3:07 AM

There’s nothing I don’t like about a brown, 1975 going-to-the-office outfit. It makes me think of the film 9 to 5. It’s unusual for her, and interesting.

by Anonymousreply 21September 20, 2021 3:11 AM

Has she transitioned into a 1986 Anne Murray??

by Anonymousreply 22September 20, 2021 3:20 AM

Big lips make you look stupid, male or female so this kind of offsets that.

by Anonymousreply 23September 20, 2021 3:24 AM

Cute! I always like seeing someone try an actual hairstyle these days. As opposed to long straight and parted down the middle. Looking at you, Streisand.

by Anonymousreply 24September 20, 2021 3:24 AM

Enough with the tattoos. She looks asymmetric, cheek implants. Hair can be fixed.

by Anonymousreply 25September 20, 2021 3:24 AM

[quote] has she always had different sized eyes?

I don't think so. One of them definitely looks smaller. I guess it's from all the plastic surgery. She's had a ton of it.

by Anonymousreply 26September 20, 2021 3:47 AM

She looks great.

by Anonymousreply 27September 20, 2021 3:50 AM

I swear every time I see her, her ears have been pulled back even further. They're practically on the back of her head now.

by Anonymousreply 28September 20, 2021 3:50 AM

Hiding a facelift

by Anonymousreply 29September 20, 2021 3:53 AM

Does she look like she’s had a facelift compared to the last photos of her in public?

by Anonymousreply 30September 20, 2021 4:06 AM

[quote] All the "So and so looks better than Madonna" comments

Trifling bitches.

I LOOK BETTER THAN MADONNA. Even now and I wasn't a beauty to begin with....

by Anonymousreply 31September 20, 2021 4:08 AM

I actually like it. I hope Courtney keeps it. A few years back Pam Anderson had a fantastic chic pixie cut as well. It suited her beautifully but within a couple of months she reverted back to that horrid stringy blonde weave.

by Anonymousreply 32September 20, 2021 4:34 AM

Yikes. Cubicle frau alert!

I’ve said it on here before; to pull off a pixie haircut, a woman must have exquisite features. Chinless Michelle Williams doesn’t pull it off. Marion Cotilliard in Annette does. Mia Farrow pulled it off. Courtney Love cannot pull it off..

by Anonymousreply 33September 20, 2021 4:37 AM

It will fool some of the people into not noticing her latest plastic surgery.

To really carry off a pixie cut one has to have a truly beautiful face, which Courtney doesn't have, but it looks okay.

by Anonymousreply 34September 20, 2021 4:37 AM

R34 and I are on the same wavelength!

by Anonymousreply 35September 20, 2021 4:39 AM

Who is that? Courtney Cox?

by Anonymousreply 36September 20, 2021 4:42 AM

Therapist at a winery event in Pittsburgh.

by Anonymousreply 37September 20, 2021 4:44 AM

We are sympatico, R33, I must have learned from your earlier posts on this subject.

It worked on Audrey Hepburn - perfect.

Terrible on Halsey, Scarlett Johanssen, Katy Perry, really terrible on Ruby Rose, Kristen Wiig (facelift distraction?), Jennifer Hudson, Lens Dunham, AnnE Hathaway as a blonde and a brunette, Emma Watson, Gwyneth Paltrow - it looks awful on most women but they all insist on trying it.

More proof that a lot of actresses have very few female friends. Someone needs to tell them "Oh honey, no!"

by Anonymousreply 38September 20, 2021 5:04 AM

Don’t forget the ugliest pixie: Rose McGowan

by Anonymousreply 39September 20, 2021 5:06 AM

She's not a blonde.

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by Anonymousreply 40September 20, 2021 5:26 AM

*^Yes we know.

Her first name isn’t really Courtney either.

by Anonymousreply 41September 20, 2021 5:36 AM

A pixie haircut, like the bob associated with Louise Brooks (actually Colleen Moore wore that look before Brooks) and the cornrows worn by Bo Derek, only really looks good on a woman with beautiful, delicate features. And Courtney Love does NOT have them. Her face is weird due to all the plastic surgery and this new haircut , which I guess she thinks is SO fashionable, only emphasizes that.

by Anonymousreply 42September 20, 2021 5:41 AM

Is that all she does now is go to fashion shows?

by Anonymousreply 43September 21, 2021 2:01 AM

Well there’s nothing else to do.

by Anonymousreply 44September 21, 2021 2:41 AM

She did a lot of lot of English tea party like media during lockdown. She's being all lady like in her dotage. I find it off-putting. I don't need her high and drunk but her current persona is just weird.

by Anonymousreply 45September 21, 2021 2:57 AM

Largely all I've seen her do during lockdown is post pictures and videos to Instagram with her and her dog. She seems to be living a nice quiet ex-pat life in London now, good for her. There's hardly anything English tea party/fake about it, imo. Age how you want! Until a minute ago she had pink hair and was doing Britney Spears covers on YouTube.

by Anonymousreply 46September 21, 2021 1:08 PM

She moved over there to try & marry an aristocrat. Bitch thinks she is Marianne Faithfull, but she is so very not.

by Anonymousreply 47September 21, 2021 1:24 PM

I like it.

I also liked Pam Anderson with one.

by Anonymousreply 48September 21, 2021 1:37 PM

I like it. She looks great.

by Anonymousreply 49September 21, 2021 1:40 PM

Who would have guessed 20 years ago that Courtney would be the one aging gracefully while Madonna’s the train wreck?

by Anonymousreply 50September 21, 2021 1:41 PM

Her face still looks mangled.

by Anonymousreply 51September 21, 2021 1:42 PM

^Madge

by Anonymousreply 52September 21, 2021 1:44 PM

[quote] Bitch thinks she is Marianne Faithfull, but she is so very not.

Right, because Courtney hasn’t gotten fat in old(er) age, and is (was) an actual songwriter and musician.

by Anonymousreply 53September 21, 2021 3:29 PM

I think it looks awful. Her pink bob a couple of months ago was cute and made her look younger and less asymmetrical.

by Anonymousreply 54September 21, 2021 3:35 PM

Anglophile American women are always embarrassing.

by Anonymousreply 55September 21, 2021 3:37 PM

She looks a little like Virginia Madsen...

by Anonymousreply 56September 21, 2021 3:41 PM

I liked the pink bob. I don't hate this current hairstyle, but it looks like a style she could wear to play a younger Barbara Corcoran (Shark Tank) type in a movie.

by Anonymousreply 57September 21, 2021 3:41 PM

You've obviously missed Marianne's career if you think she didn't write any of her own songs.

by Anonymousreply 58September 21, 2021 3:52 PM

She's kind of cute here, but maybe it's just her awkward smiling. I don't think the haircut itself looks *amazing*, but she looks healthy and happy, and in her career has always been better with a make-under rather than a makeover. Obviously she has had some surgery (lol at the DL sleuths thinking this is brand new information), but given her years of hard living and personal tragedy, she looks surprisingly good. I mean the woman is on her 9th life at this point, it's a miracle she even made it out of her teen years.

I do agree with the posters who mentioned what a strange pivot her life seems to have taken. She has always been an Anglophile, but seeing her cosplay as a posh lady who reads poetry and drinks tea and takes photos of her pomeranian is funny. I guess she's living another one of her fantasy lives, and this one is pretty harmless so good for her. I wonder if she will ever return to music or acting, there are not many genuine female rock stars these days (or male, for that matter).

by Anonymousreply 59September 21, 2021 3:57 PM

Emma Watson looked cute with the pixie. It helps to be young and petite. Winona Ryder really rocked the look in the 90s.

Weirdly, it works on Judi Dench, who was never a beauty even when young.

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by Anonymousreply 60September 21, 2021 4:00 PM

I think Judi Dench wore the pixie cut even when she was young. I googled her one time. It does look good on her....you wouldn't think so, but it works. Usually, you need to have a petite face with good cheekbones and features. I always like this cut on women. It's chic and stylish.

by Anonymousreply 61September 21, 2021 4:06 PM

This haircut looks better on Love than it does on Emma Watson.

by Anonymousreply 62September 21, 2021 4:29 PM

Rosemary Woodhouse

by Anonymousreply 63September 21, 2021 4:33 PM

She looks much better like that. I never found her pretty, but here she's kinda cute.

by Anonymousreply 64September 21, 2021 4:39 PM

She's morphed into a suburban house frau.

Combed correctly, it's almost a classic Kate Gossellin Karen hairdo.

by Anonymousreply 65September 21, 2021 4:41 PM

Who could’ve predicted that Courtney Love would end up looking like this and Madonna like that?

by Anonymousreply 66September 21, 2021 4:46 PM

R65 It takes courage nowadays for an adult to dress like an adult.

by Anonymousreply 67September 21, 2021 4:49 PM

The cut itself is sort of frau-ish, but I think it looks good. I'm not sure Courtney herself can ever be a true frau. Then again, some of the frau-iest fraus are ex party girls and ex "while child" types. Not as a rule, but I've seen it plenty. I don't think Courtney is truly a frau.

by Anonymousreply 68September 21, 2021 4:52 PM

Chic?

She looks like the suburban housewife from 1967 who has had a "terrible time" with her nervous breakdowns but now is back at home looking fragile when everyone around her suspects she was the one who killed the neighbors' cats in that grisly way.

by Anonymousreply 69September 21, 2021 4:56 PM

Does she speak with a Brit-ish accent now?

by Anonymousreply 70September 21, 2021 6:08 PM

Such a poser.

by Anonymousreply 71September 21, 2021 6:14 PM

Begone, R71, before someone throws another compact at you!

by Anonymousreply 72September 21, 2021 6:29 PM

[quote][R65] It takes courage nowadays for an adult to dress like an adult

It takes good taste and a sense of style to dress well.

It only takes a visit to Walmart to view the mannequins and a tiktok account to dress like her..

by Anonymousreply 73September 21, 2021 6:47 PM

Courtney always had a more natural way to pull off extreme looks than Madonna. Madonna had good and wide range of taste - "high and low" taste - when she was young - but lost it as a superstar. Courtney could always pull off classy and trashy looks with flair. This is key to why Courtney was a better actress, as well.

by Anonymousreply 74September 21, 2021 6:58 PM

R74 Courtney has never looked classy in her life.

by Anonymousreply 75September 21, 2021 7:00 PM

Whatever you say honey. Ive seen Courtney at couture shows looking chicer then chic. She will even do it on public red carpets occasionally.

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by Anonymousreply 76September 21, 2021 7:03 PM
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by Anonymousreply 77September 21, 2021 7:04 PM
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by Anonymousreply 78September 21, 2021 7:05 PM

She joins the exclusive club of Sharon Stone and Chynna Phillips as the white Hollywood women who can pull off short hair.

by Anonymousreply 79September 21, 2021 7:15 PM

Cute. She looks happy. Almost like an authoress. Hope she gets a lead role in a Woody Allen movie with that look

by Anonymousreply 80September 21, 2021 7:19 PM

This is just an act. She's crazy, always was, always will be.

by Anonymousreply 81September 22, 2021 3:35 AM

And mama Mia!

by Anonymousreply 82September 22, 2021 5:49 AM

This is by far the best she's ever looked. She actually looks sane and normal. I wonder if she's finally kicked the dope.

by Anonymousreply 83September 22, 2021 12:50 PM

As others have stated, who knew that drug-addicted, non-healthy wild child Courtney Love would get better plastic surgery than Madonna?

Everyone has forgotten about Charlize Theron and Halle Berry looking amazing with pixie cuts. Charlize in particular looks strange to me with longer hair.

by Anonymousreply 84September 22, 2021 3:40 PM

“the dope”? I don’t think her problem has been heroin for … decades at this point. Last I heard it was pain pills. Six of one, half dozen of the other, I know, but still.

by Anonymousreply 85September 22, 2021 3:43 PM

R81 is spot on.

by Anonymousreply 86September 22, 2021 4:16 PM

Methinks it's a wig. Cancer? Brit-Brit psycho meltdown? Extensions ripped the hair out?

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by Anonymousreply 87September 22, 2021 6:00 PM

synthetic opioids (painkillers) are the same family as heroin.

by Anonymousreply 88September 22, 2021 7:39 PM

She looks ok for a murderer.

by Anonymousreply 89September 22, 2021 7:51 PM

I can't tell if I like it or not. Her face is so distorted from cosmetic surgeries, and having the extra hair to frame it looked better I think. With her hair so short, it really accentuates all the shit she's had done. It's unfortunate, because she looked pretty cute in the early to mid-'90s. She should've stopped there.

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by Anonymousreply 90October 1, 2021 10:31 PM

"It's Vidal Sassoon!"

by Anonymousreply 91October 1, 2021 11:46 PM

Quoth the Daily Fail:

[quote]Her band Hole released their iconic album Pretty On The Inside 30 years ago

Look, I’ve gotten nothing against that album or the band, but there is no universe in which Pretty On The Inside is “iconic”. Even the Live Through This album, which is better known and more commercially successful by orders of magnitude, is not actually “iconic”.

When will this stupid trend of EGREGIOUSLY misusing that word fucking end?

by Anonymousreply 92October 2, 2021 12:11 AM

[quote] I’ve gotten nothing

*got nothing

by Anonymousreply 93October 2, 2021 12:12 AM

R92 I agree, although I do consider "Pretty on the Inside" a morbid masterpiece.

by Anonymousreply 94October 2, 2021 1:37 AM

Does Courtney have cancer? She posted this slide of photos today, the first of which is a chair in a hospital, and mentions in the caption that it's "Infusion day... studies/honors/amusements/ various Genius… Things to ponder & to learn." Given her recent haircut, I cannot help but wonder if she is going through chemo. Also taking into account her social media as of late, which seems to be very grace-minded and nostalgic. It makes me worry that she could be dying.

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by Anonymousreply 95October 7, 2021 7:25 AM

Looking at her Insta made me have to poop.

by Anonymousreply 96October 7, 2021 7:31 AM

The haircut's meh.

I'm more concerned about the knotted arrangement around her neck. Not sure if it's a bow, noose or macrame experiment.

I don't like her. I think she looks like shit.

by Anonymousreply 97October 7, 2021 7:38 AM

Courtney is lucky to have a nose left, I can't count how many nose jobs she's had.

One thing is does have, great legs. They are sure not the result of plastic surgery.

by Anonymousreply 98October 7, 2021 7:42 AM

Courtney's original nose in 'Syd & Nancy' looked like a big fake plastic nose. Scary.

by Anonymousreply 99October 7, 2021 7:44 AM

R99 she also has nice shoulders--they are broad, square, and kind of masculine, but they complement her overall body frame. I think she is fairly tall.

by Anonymousreply 100October 7, 2021 7:49 AM

Meant R98

by Anonymousreply 101October 7, 2021 7:52 AM

What is a frau haircut? Don’t most Republicunt Jesus loving Karens have bleached blonde hair and extensions? I don’t see many with short hair.

by Anonymousreply 102October 7, 2021 8:02 AM

frau-ish

by Anonymousreply 103October 7, 2021 8:14 AM

The last frauish short haircut was the Kate woman from, “Kate and 8”. The Whirlwind Pineapple.

by Anonymousreply 104October 7, 2021 8:21 AM

I am shocked—shocked!—by the kind responses on this thread. I didn’t realize she was likeable.

by Anonymousreply 105October 7, 2021 8:44 AM

She seems unable to find or maintain a relationship. By the time you find out she's dating an aluminum executive or something- it's already over.

by Anonymousreply 106October 7, 2021 8:51 AM

R95 she's anemic but for some reason when she announced it a few months ago she said she was fixed by a pain management doctor, so I don't know what exactly these "infusions" are. You'd think iron (or B12 for pernicious anemia) but she very clearly says she finally found a pain management doctor who would deal with her after "quacks" wouldn't treat her because she was an addict.

I don't know what kind of pain meds you need for anemia.

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by Anonymousreply 107October 7, 2021 8:53 AM

Take some iron pills 💊 , bitch!

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by Anonymousreply 108October 7, 2021 8:56 AM

I’m enjoying r108’s appearances in recent threads.

She looks awful and always will. But she’s entertaining.

Here’s a manic interview she gave Lisa Suckdog back in the early 90s.

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by Anonymousreply 109October 7, 2021 4:26 PM

"Even the Live Through This album, which is better known and more commercially successful by orders of magnitude, is not actually 'iconic'"

Yes, it is.

by Anonymousreply 110October 7, 2021 5:28 PM

"but I remember she chopped it all off in 2004 during her crazy years" Those would be from1964 till now.

by Anonymousreply 111October 7, 2021 5:54 PM

I think it looks great. It's nice to see that she's grown up, unlike Madonna.

by Anonymousreply 112October 7, 2021 5:58 PM

Actual LOL, R111. And I needed one today so... thanks.

by Anonymousreply 113October 7, 2021 6:03 PM

I think she looked her best around 1991 after nose job #1. Aside from the big schnoz, she always had decent features. The fillers circa 1998 (when Celebrity Skin came out) left her looking a bit Tara Reid-ish for a moment, I thought. Things got crazy around the early 2000s.

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by Anonymousreply 114October 7, 2021 9:06 PM

Who is she fucking now? She's had quite a diverse bunch of lovers, the actors Edward Norton and Steve Coogan come to mind.

Coogan claimed their affair never happened, then again, he's had his share of serious drug problems and sex scandals. They supposed 'dated' while they were both fucked up on drugs. Coogan probably doesn't remember much.

by Anonymousreply 115October 7, 2021 11:30 PM

[quote] I think she is fairly tall.

I think she's 5'9. She was twice the size of poor little Kurt.

[quote] Coogan claimed their affair never happened, then again, he's had his share of serious drug problems and sex scandals. They supposed 'dated' while they were both fucked up on drugs. Coogan probably doesn't remember much.

I think he'd remember fucking Courtney Love. A lot of men who were supposedly her lovers denied that that were, Trent Reznor and Russell Crowe being two prominent examples. I believe them. She's told so many lies; she claimed to have been impregnated by Reznor and Crowe, and either aborted or miscarried their babies. What bullshit. Even Edward Norton has distanced himself from her. He's not claiming they were nothing but "friends." Not according to her! She said he gave her a ruby engagement ring. In the movie "Kurt and Courtney" her father told the filmmaker she said she was getting married. "Who to?" "Edward Norton." She late accused him of stealing $300, 000 from her and Frances Bean. But later she sort of kind of apologized for accusing him, saying "I have the greatest respect for Edward. He could be the President of the United States. I could be his drug czar." She is indeed crazy.

by Anonymousreply 116October 7, 2021 11:52 PM

I don't know about Russell, he's had plenty of affairs etc. that were swept under the table (I remember him buying the CCTV tapes from the hotel after Azealia Banks said he called her the N word and choked her... I assume she was up there with him as some form of sex thing). Men lie when it suits them about not having had sex with someone.

I think Courtney looked best just after Live Through this when she cleaned herself up, but still looked like herself with her big, sharp, almost masculine features. I'm talking about pre-Celebrity Skin days. Even in the Gold Dust Woman video where she was brunette around 96 or 97, or this Ellen Von Unwerth shoot.

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by Anonymousreply 117October 8, 2021 1:30 PM

She looks surprisingly good actually.

by Anonymousreply 118October 8, 2021 1:32 PM

Another example. She actually sort of looks like a silent era or Golden Age era movie star here, who sometimes had stronger jawlines etc.

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by Anonymousreply 119October 8, 2021 1:32 PM

Last example of when I think she looked her best.

She really has had a million faces over the years (when I googled it was surprising to see some next to others, almost looking like two completely different humans).

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by Anonymousreply 120October 8, 2021 1:33 PM

I belong to the school that the original face is usually the best face.

by Anonymousreply 121October 8, 2021 3:00 PM

She looks great.

by Anonymousreply 122October 8, 2021 3:03 PM

R121 I agree.

by Anonymousreply 123October 8, 2021 3:13 PM

Just a nose job. Young and grungy. Looked good. Also she did look a bit like Jack Lemmon's Daphne, next to rather delicate Kurt.

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by Anonymousreply 124October 8, 2021 3:44 PM

R121 Nah. What if you have giant hooky nosey dumbo ears, giant mole, messed up teeth, no chin? Plastic surgery can help you become a lot better looking.

by Anonymousreply 125October 8, 2021 4:28 PM

[quote] I belong to the school that the original face is usually the best face.

Not in Courtney Love's case. Have you ever seen her original face? Her nose was huge, a shapeless lump. I think she's had work on every feature of her face, probably more than once. Her at this stage doesn't look "good", it looks strange. She's also had major work on her teeth' I heard she spent $40,000 on veneers. But none of it made into a beauty. You can't make a silk purse out f a sow's ear, as the old saying goes.

by Anonymousreply 126October 8, 2021 7:09 PM

I am a fan of 1991-1993 CL looks. In the later glam 90s she looked kind of ugly and too skinny to me. And then she started looking freaky in the new Century.

Do not like the pixie.

by Anonymousreply 127October 8, 2021 8:48 PM

Courtney's current face, still looks much better than Madonna's and I'm not a fan of either of these women, but I will admit when someone looks good. Courtney looks fine.

Speaking of Madonna, she was on Fallon last night, acting like the asshole she is, lifting up her short dress and flashing her odd looking fake ass. Then, she was splayed across Fallon's desk. How old is she again?

I was shocked Madonna's face didn't look as Amanda Lapore-ish and alien-like in the Fallon appearance. Someone needs to tell her to stop using those bizarre filters at her IG. Her face didn't look as tightly pulled as in her IG photos, she basically didn't look like an alien, she almost looked normal. Sure, you could tell she's had work done, but her face didn't look as severe and odd as it does at her IG.

by Anonymousreply 128October 8, 2021 9:00 PM

She is, after all, a woman of a certain age now and I think the hair looks good and the outfit is okay. Too bad about the wonk eye, though. It really looks wonky in that IG orange dress picture.

by Anonymousreply 129October 8, 2021 9:06 PM

R128 the problem is that Madonna has never really grown up—she has the mentality of a twentysomething still. Courtney has admitted fumbled and fucked up more times than anyone could count along the way, but she at least strives to be mature and have some class. She's still a kook and an addict, but she tries. Madonna, on the other hand, just continues to exploit and humiliate herself with no sense of dignity in sight.

by Anonymousreply 130October 9, 2021 8:56 AM

This thread sent me on a YouTube rabbit hole (no pun intended) of old Hole performances. I was too young to see them at their peak, but I have seen her live in more recent years, and her stage presence when I've seen her has always been very powerful. I can only imagine the raw energy of those earlier shows (and also the drug-addled soap opera of the Live Through This-era concerts).

As much as people want to hate her, I don't think you can deny that Courtney has star power. She is naturally charismatic in a playful, almost bratty kid-sister way, and she's funny. She often brings that same playful energy to the stage, but weaves it into her rage and really bares it all—there is almost always a sense that things could fly off the rails at any moment. Even when the performance sucks, there is still something enthralling about it.

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by Anonymousreply 131October 9, 2021 10:50 AM

[quote] As much as people want to hate her, I don't think you can deny that Courtney has star power.

I don't think it can be called "star power." She has a pathological need for attention and will do anything to get it. That makes people notice her. She got to be famous on sheer determination and marrying Kurt Cobain. As a talent I don't think she's ever been much. I'd say she's been very lucky. She was in right place at the right time.

by Anonymousreply 132October 9, 2021 8:39 PM

Her face looks like she’s had a hundred surgeries. I’ve been spending a lot of time looking at old people because it’s coming down the pike for me. I’m comparing the faces who are untouched with the faces of the altered. It been very interesting, and I’m not convinced that there’s anything to be done about most aging.

by Anonymousreply 133October 10, 2021 3:42 PM

Madonna's face looked good/normal on Fallon. Of course it's taped back under the wig, but everyone does that.

The super closeups of her face from fan videos at the Red Rooster also looked good.

by Anonymousreply 134October 12, 2021 3:02 AM

She looks....mature. Normal.

by Anonymousreply 135October 12, 2021 3:12 AM

I had always wondered what had happened to Joan Lunden. Now we know.

by Anonymousreply 136October 12, 2021 3:16 AM

She looks a salesgirl at Nordstroms Jewelry Counter!

by Anonymousreply 137October 12, 2021 3:17 AM

She looks good.

by Anonymousreply 138October 12, 2021 4:37 AM

The hair is okay, but she stole that outfit from my 75-year old grandma's closet.

by Anonymousreply 139October 12, 2021 4:40 AM

She looks like she shops at Hot Topic - or Torrid, and Claire’s Boutique.

by Anonymousreply 140October 14, 2021 12:20 AM

Mia, Halle & Audrey wore it best. Honorable mention to Jean Seberg & Winona.

I always loved this picture from the 1998 VMAs, it's so 90s.

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by Anonymousreply 141October 14, 2021 11:18 PM

Courtney would have disappeared LONG ago did she not have mountains of nirvana cash to keep her well tended, even through her most strung out insane years. Her "career" would have been in ashes, and she probably would be dead at 40.

by Anonymousreply 142October 14, 2021 11:31 PM

I think she actually did try to commit suicide on her 40th birthday? Or was put on suicide watch? carried off to rehab? It was a story at the time, I recall a picture of her being carried away on a stretcher. Quite sad.

I actually wonder about her money situation now. Obviously she gets a piece of the Nirvana pie ($$$), and I do think Hole's music does well compared to other 90s female bands (placements, radio airplay, streaming royalties), but from all her legal troubles and ramblings about lawyers and managers thieving her dry, I wonder what her wallet is actually looking like these days. It's a miracle she hasn't done a full Toni Braxton, financially.

by Anonymousreply 143October 15, 2021 11:13 AM

R143 she's attempted suicide a couple of times from what I can gather. As you say, she tried on her 40th birthday in New York (when she was at the height of her cocaine/crack binge), after which she got carted off to Bellevue Hospital; I believe shortly after that happened, she intentionally overdosed on heroin in a hotel in LA,, but someone saved her; I think I remember her saying that this violated her parole and she ended up getting sentenced to lockdown rehab because of it.

Her financial situation is fascinating. There are some who theorize she's been in England for the past two years to avoid paying her debts to the IRS, which is possible (she also has been working on an album there, so who knows). She has claimed for years to have been fucked over by attorneys and accountants who have surreptitiously bled money out of the Nirvana estate. From around 2005–2010, she was utterly obsessed with this, and would ramble about it incoherently to anyone who would listen. Some of it was so insane, I almost believe it to be true.

In any event, the share she has of the Nirvana publishing rights (even after she's sold off some of it) should easily ensure that she'll never go without money in her lifetime. The only problem is that she seems to be a big spender, so she gets herself in trouble by living beyond her means (which is really saying something). I know Frances, who owns around 40% of the Nirvana publishing, gets nearly $100k/month—Courtney sold off a chunk of her rights for $50 million some years ago, so I'm not sure how much the Nirvana publishing nets her a month these days, but it has to be substantial.

by Anonymousreply 144October 16, 2021 2:15 AM
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