I think Covid is almost completely over in 🇺🇸

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^That ain't all sweets.

OP = DJT, September 2020

So, it’s here to stay? How much longer?

It’s over for me. I’m vaxed. I wear a mask and social distance if it’s required. Other than that, I’m back to living my life.

I’m fully vaccinated and only wear a mask when it’s imposed upon me.

[quote] We will have a Halloween 🎃, Thanksgiving and Christmas 🎄 like normal.

Do you mean 2022 or 2023?

I'm fully vaxed, always masked in public and still experiencing Jennifer Aniston levels of paranoia about this shit.

[Quote]We will have a Halloween 🎃, Thanksgiving and Christmas 🎄 like normal

America has already returned to normal. People have been living their lives.

Actually it's here to stay and I wouldn't be surprised if it hasn't the end of our species.

I've already forgotten about it. It's old news. Don't even carry a mask with me.

It will pick back up again after Halloween, just like last year. I am vaxxed, but will probably start feeling better about things after I get a booster.

R9 And dying their deaths.

🇺🇸 is over COVID-19

[quote] Actually it's here to stay and I wouldn't be surprised if it hasn't the end of our species.

Retarded. Yes, it’s here to stay, but… “the end of our species”? Oy fucking vey. Read a little on this topic if you’re so paranoid about it. You’ll find out that no one who has any significant understanding about Covid-19 thinks it will END THE SPECIES.

In addition to being masked and vaccinated I’ve been getting tested every other week at a mobile unit in my hood. Takes 5 mins and gives me peace of mind.

That’s paranoia, R16. I mean, I’m glad you have that available to you, to give yourself peace of mind, but jeez. There’s a reason why the government wants employers to either require vaccination OR force testing, and not both.

[quote] Retarded. Yes, it’s here to stay, but… “the end of our species”?

Yeah, mankind survived the truly horrendous bubonic plague, smallpox, etc. Covid is obviously terrible and is doing/has done damage, but it's also important to put things into perspective.

[quote]🇺🇸 is over COVID-19

But is COVID-19 over 🇺🇸 ?

They lauded the vaccine as a key to resuming life with no more worry. Now they say the vaccine is only good for keeping you out of hospital and dead. The vast majority of people who got covid last year didn’t die and avoided the hospital 🏥

People who express themselves in emojis are, shall we say, not reliable voices on public health.

The vaccine still does prevent infection to a degree. Not as well as it did during the alpha period, but it does reduce infection and transmission by about 50% compared to an unvaccinated cohort.

R22, covid in 2020 was not that serious for average person

Duh, covid changed r20. We now have a new version of the virus, so the initial data on the vaccines doesn't apply to the new variant. Thankfully even with delta the vaccines do give you more protection against being infected and significantly more protection against hospitalization.

R24, wait till the next super spreader variant hits you smug fuck

I agree. It’s over!!

People are done !

R20 and 23 help persuade me that the deplorables are fundamentally uneducable. Fortunately the majority are sick and tired of being held hostage to their ignorance and support vaccination mandates so we can finally get this thing under control.

Vaccines don’t eradicate covid R28

r20 thinks the hospitals full of the unbreathing Covid patients are imaginary because he's not currently one of them.

She sounds like a real thinking man's Log Cabinette.

I’m worried about what diseases may come at us next. The human race didn’t do a great job of handling COVID how would we all react with something worse?

“super spreader variant” LOL

i am curious what the holidays will be like this year. Are people going to get together? It seems worse than last year.

I’m going to my parents r33. I didn’t travel last year but everyone else sure did. We’ve all had our vaccinations so I’m not worried.

People will full on celebrate the holidays this year. It will be bigger than ever

Why does it seem worse this year? It’s only bad for the unvaccinated, and they don’t give a fuck, either.

Imagine what the US would have done with an Ebola outbreak. The death cult would have made sure everyone got it.

Covid in 2020 wasn't that bad? WASN'T THAT BAD?

Are you out of your fucking mind? At least 400,000 Americans dead in less than a year. Have you forgotten the bulldozer pushing bodies into mass graves? We had them. That actually happened. The cold storage trucks filled with overflow bodies from hospitals and morgues? (Guess what, they're BACK) All the sickness and death that didn't need to happen but did because of Donald fucking Trump? That happened. Mask shortages, PPE shortages, ventilator shortages, ring any bells? ICU wards with more and faster deaths than our medical personnel had ever seen - that happened.

You people with your bizarre amnesia freak me out.

I get your point, R38, but the poster to whom you were responding likely meant that the vast majority of people who got it in 2020 did not die and did not become hospitalized. Yes, half a million is a lot of deaths in one year, but … there are over 328 million people in this country. 674k have died. That works out to 0.2% of the US pop. who’ve died of Covid to date, up to the present day. Most were elderly and obese.

Please note I am not saying they deserved to die, just that the average person in this country did not die from it.

You're insane, r39, minimizing this fucking horror show we've been through.

Jesus fucking Christ, how many would have had to die for it to have really been "bad" in your fucked up opinion?

If everyone who died had been under 40 and thin then would it have been bad?

Ugh. You're fucking retarded and disgusting.

You’re putting a lot of words in my mouth, R40. Didn’t mean to upset you and wasn’t trying to minimize Covid. Just putting the numbers out there.

Maybe have a glass of pinot grigio, go to bed. So what?

Pinot Grigio?

Fuck off and die in grease fire, cunt.

R42, is unhinged

LOL. I admire the ferocity and derangement.

There are a lot of DLers who think being vaxxed means they won't get it, it's kind of weird.

Everyone should get vaxxed. That doesn't mean the vaccine makes you immune to it.

So wear masks and sociallly distant for ever r 45?

For people who experience a breakthrough infection, the vast majority of those will be mild or asymptomatic. That might be why the fully vaccinated aren’t particularly worried.

Breakthrough infections also aren’t particularly common, despite their increase in the age of Delta, and despite all the people on social media who say 8 of their friends got breakthrough infections. I live in “hot spot” NYC, I take about 20 rides on public transit every week, I didn’t wear my mask in grocery stores when the mask mandate was lifted at the end of May, and somehow I haven’t experienced a breakthrough infection. It could happen, I realize, which is why I am wearing my mask again in supermarkets even when it’s not required (there are 2 big grocery stores in my neighborhood in Brooklyn that have *not* reintroduced mask requirements).

But I’m not scared of Covid. And I’m sick of wearing the fucking mask. The humidity is relentless and I can’t stand my hot breath steaming up my face. Enough already.

Sober up, r46.

Fun fact: as of this week the US will have more COVID deaths than people who died of the 1918 Spanish flu.

Oh, but Covid wasn't that bad, r49, haven't you heard?

It only killed 650,000 (at least) in the US so far and only 4,550,000 million worldwide! Practically nothing!

Also many of the people were old and/or fat so that makes their deaths less... um.. deadly.

A mere bagatelle.

Most were old and/or fat. Not “many,” but MOST. I realize you’re in that demographic, R50, so you’re really angry and scared and lashing out, but that doesn’t change the data.

You don't actually know anyone who was killed by Covid, do you R51?

Thought not.

Dismissing COVID deaths because "most were old or fat" is kind of psychotic.

Immediately screaming "die cunt die" because someone disagrees with you doesn't exactly scream "sanity," either.

I don't know why we have to go through this shit on DL every fucking day. People say stupid stuff about the vaccine, someone goes into full emotional meltdown, someone else says stupid things just to push their buttons, and it goes on for an hour. How do you have this much free time? Go wash a dish or something, damn.

Really? It's over?

[quote]Really? It's over?

Down to 2,000 deaths in the US per day! Practically nothing!

The internal organ damage that people who get the virus and survive, is that over too?

So what are your predictions for fall/ early winter ?

*mocking* I think Covid is almost over! 🤡

No one is dismissing the Covid deaths.

Oh no no, not *dismissing* them, heavens no!

But they were old and/or fat so it's not actually much of a loss more of a half-loss at best. It's not as if they were younger or thinner, that would be a real loss and those would be real deaths. I think we can all agree on this.

Everyone forgets that the regular flu kills hundred of thousand of people in the US every year.

Take a look at the difference in data between areas where most are vaccinated and areas where few are. The latter is where covid is still raging (in some cases worse than ever, with healthcare crises in ID, AL, LA, etc.). I reiterate that vaccination is the way to keep covid under control and stop the pandemic (NO, not stamp out covid entirely, which is probably impossible, but stop it spreading as a pandemic). It's the stubborn, substantial minority of anti-vaxxers who are keeping us from getting there. Anyone who thinks "Covid is almost completely over" in the country is a troll pure and simple.

Let’s dismiss them if they refused the vaccine. It will save the taxpayers money. ‘Conservatives” like this.

[quote] A mere bagatelle.

A what now?

NYC has a very high vaccination rate, I think around 70%, and pretty high mask compliance if my personal observations are correct. For instance the vast majority of people remain masked in the subways . It is also almost universal now to go unmasked outdoors. Continued indoor masking and a few other restrictions are annoying but it feels ALMOST normal here. Which shows what a high rate of vaccination can accomplish stupid Mississippi and West Virginia.

Will I get a moderate case of Delta? Maybe and that would not be pleasant. Hopefully I won't or will get a mild case. Which is what vaccines provide.

I love wearing masks. Always loved how they do it in Asia. I hope masks are here to stay permanently.

R8,

This isn’t going to mean much coming from some anonymous dude on here, but please try to relax. I know it’s not easy. Trust me, I had to work as an essential worker through this entire pandemic right from the start. Fortunately, I never got it.

Now that you’re vaccinated, there is very, very little for you to worry about. If you were in that exceptionally small percentage who contracted it in spite of being vaccinated, the chances of you even getting just mildly ill are low.

I’m not saying live your life with abandon and take no precautions anymore, but take it from someone who was virtually paralyzed with fear over this whole thing. Since the vaccines, I’ve breathed a heavy sigh of relief (not on anyone though). I hope you can do the same.

We’re about to find out the long-term efficacy of the vaccines over the next few months. Let’s put down the celebratory champagne at least until we find that out.

What’s with the fucking emojis? Are you a teenage girl?

Emoji 🤡 emoji 😷 emoji ☠️

It's almost completely over...for YOU, maybe, heheheheh

The US has 27% of all the daily cases in the world! That's practically nothing!

Lots of breakthrough cases among the vaccinated

R38 You do know that the Hong Kong flu of 68 69 was way worse with over 4 times as many deaths but we did not have the fear media pushing it on us day and night. No lockdowns, no masks.

People are becoming more skeptical about this virus and the efficacy of vaccines. A lot of people are wary of more shots

R75 Did someone say shots?

[quote] Lots of breakthrough cases among the vaccinated

Oh shut the fuck up

[quote] We’re about to find out the long-term efficacy of the vaccines over the next few months. Let’s put down the celebratory champagne at least until we find that out.

What do you mean, “we’re about to”? We already know. They wane dramatically after about 8 months. We saw this in Israel first and now we’re seeing it here, which is why a third shot is necessary.

To clarify for those who think Covid=seasonal flu deaths ... The CDC estimates that an average of 36,000 people died of the flu each year over the past decade. The worst recent flu season was 2017-2018, when 61,000 people died from the flu.

The next wave will be set into motion by a specific breed of American. Have there been any studies devoted to the anti-Covid capabilities of Buffalo wings and ranch dressing?

Fewer older unhealthy people on Medicare/Medicaid, that means more for the rest of us!

It really isn't dying out (yet). Cases and deaths are both still high worldwide as well as in the USA at the moment. Have you even looked at the facts, OP?

Op is a stupid ass

[quote]Now that you’re vaccinated, there is very, very little for you to worry about. If you were in that exceptionally small percentage who contracted it in spite of being vaccinated, the chances of you even getting just mildly ill are low.

It's not an exceptionally small percentage. The vaccines aren't as effective against Delta. The efficacy rate of Pfizer is 79% right now for those vaccinated in April.

I don't know who on DL keeps making it sound like you're fine once you get vaccinated, but you might not be. That's not a reason to panic but I also don't see any reason to lie about it.

[quote] So wear masks and sociallly distant for ever r 45?

Things are never going back to the way they were. It will probably take a few years for everyone to grasp that. People will need to get an annual Covid vaccine going forward and, yes, masks and social distancing are here to stay to some degree. The world has changed forever.

I think COVID is going to be a risk people will be willing to take when they want to socialize at big events. It will become part of normal life to remain vaccinated and, if symptoms occur, to pop some more pills to keep the worst from happening.

The media will move on to the next crisis and COVID related deaths won't get as much coverage than before for the sake of the (global) economy.

I’m a stupid cunt.

[quote] yes, masks and social distancing are here to stay to some degree. The world has changed forever.

Wrong.

[quote]Yeah, mankind survived the truly horrendous bubonic plague, smallpox, etc. Covid is obviously terrible and is doing/has done damage, but it's also important to put things into perspective.

Yes indeed - perspective. Bubonic plague and smallpox did not happen at a time when the planet is literally starting to burn up from global warming. One of the biggest contributors to climate change is animal agriculture, but the media largely ignores this and instead only focuses on fossil fuels, fracking, oil drilling, etc. Humans will never learn and will continue to consume animal products in greater quantities. To predict that yet another zoonotic virus will affect humans in our lifetime is almost certain. This planet and this human race are fucked.

R78 - compare vaccination rates between the two countries and the fact that boosters aren’t widely available in the US. We know what the potential is based on Israel, but that won’t likely be reality for the US, or at least for large parts of it.

Masks are over for me until the vaccines stop working which is just speculation and fear mongering right now.

R89 is a vegan nut. Are they aware they did animal testing on this vaccine?

Heh heh heh

r29 yes it does.

R89 You still think this virus was zoonotic?

Thank you R67. I know the odds and stats, I'm just a nervous fucking nellie. Got my little supply of 3M N95s and not leaving the house without one. I don't mind masking at all and very much appreciated suffering no seasonal colds or flu last year.

But your post was very kind, thank you again.

R89 may or may not be a "vegan nut" but they're right. Industrial agriculture is a perfect scenario for the creation of new and exotic bugs we have no natural defenses against. People can be as mad about this as they want but this very situation has been warned about for years - decades. We're lucky Covid wasn't something much more deadly.

Although I'm vaccinated, I keep masked up to keep my nieces and nephews safe. Once they get their vaccines, I will relax much more.

Vaccinated people may get infected with COVID-19 and have no symptoms but may be left with brain fog for an indeterminate amount of time. Of course, people who refuse vaccination already have brain fog.

Wait...what?!

Only 1% of those who get infected die!! Enough with this insane covidophobia!!!

[quote]Only 1% of those who get infected die!! Enough with this insane covidophobia!!!

a. outdated misinformation. Current estimated deaths in US - 1 million, cases - 42M, which comes to 2.5%.

b. That "hey c'mon! Hitler only killed 6 million Jews!" rhetoric isn't nearly as effective a talking point as your troll farm supervisors seem to think it is.

c. 670,000 dead Americans in 2 years is a lot. Which is why you fucking idiots keep pushing those fake percentage numbers.

d. Go drink bleach.

[quote] Vaccinated people may get infected with COVID-19 and have no symptoms but may be left with brain fog for an indeterminate amount of time.

You may be right.

I don’t remember.

R102, it's futile arguing with these nutjobs. The "only 1%" line has been around since the beginning, and it ignores the many, many problems short of death: missing work, clogging up hospitals and doctors' offices, passing on new cases, just plain feeling horrible for a couple of weeks, etc. But there's no arguing with the fools and trolls.

Despite all the advances of the past 103 years, the U.S. death toll from COVID has now surpassed that of the 1918 flu pandemic:

I'm certainly fine with masks at the doctor's office and hospitals, it should be required from now on forever. I mean, both places are SEETHING with sick people coughing and gagging, it should have always been like that.

And for god's sake, take those children's out of the offices, was that ever a good idea?!!!!

The brain fog, and most long Covid claims, rests on weak evidence. You will have brain fog is really antivaxx claims people! It's a claim that the vaccines don't work.

[quote] a. outdated misinformation. Current estimated deaths in US - 1 million, cases - 42M, which comes to 2.5%.

You can’t extrapolate that percentage from that data because we only know that 42 million have tested positive. There are certainly many more who have had it but we’re asymptomatic or mildly symptomatic and didn’t bother getting tested. So the number of people in the US who have had it is certainly greater than 42 million, which brings that death percentage down, likely much closer to 1% than 2.5%.

By the way, this is GOOD news. It’s only bad news if you’re the sort of person who prefers your news to be as grim as possible, for whatever reason.

Remember: when the vaccine was first rolled out in the US, various states were reporting tiny numbers of breakthrough infections. I considered this a great thing, but many people were quick to point out that not everyone was getting tested, and the number of the cases of breakthroughs was likely much larger than had been reported. Well, the same principle holds for the “42 million” cases.

^but muh freetums! Murica! Fuck I care bout how muh choices affectin other peephole? Fuck um! Wait, I’m havin some trouble breathin. Help me!!

Wu to all of you. It’s not over, till the fat lady sings.

R109, who are you responding to?

I'm so done with it.

So are we.

Can I have your stuff, OP?

[quote] It’s not over, till the fat lady sings.

Someone call Chrissy.

These people thought COVID was over too.

Republicans: do not get the vaccine. It doesn't work on conservatives. If you get Covid, don't go to a hospital. They will not do the treatments you want. Stay at home and take ivermectin.

Everyone else: get the vaccine ASAP if you haven't already.

Percentage of positive results seem to be up, no?

Maybe there is just less testing.

I've noticed in the NY Times daily graph that the number of new cases has been trending down most recently but deaths continue to trend up.

Delta is hitting the unvaxed and killing them badly is how I'd interpret it. Any other interpretation?

R108 I agree. I basically ignore the case numbers for that reason. I've never taken a covid test myself although I am vaccinated of course.

Goodbye Covid, hello orgies!

Wait until it starts getting cold out next month.

So what are we meant to do? Wear a mask forever? Socially distance eternally? Stay home unless absolutely necessary? I’m not down for any of that.

R119 Seems like it. If you look at the deaths per population, red states are currently moving up the rankings; they're the ones keeping deaths and cases high. A bunch of blue states were originally hit harder because they're more densely populated and have global travel hubs but red states with a higher % of anti-vaxxers were never going to escape it. I think everyone is going to have to get it at some point, just that the vaccine helps to stop severe cases.

Well, where is….

Oh, wait.

Going by total Covid deaths per population, the worst hit state is currently Mississippi, which has overtaken New Jersey for that spot. Louisiana has overtaken New York, while Alabama is currently in fifth place.

[quote] So what are we meant to do? Wear a mask forever? Socially distance eternally? Stay home unless absolutely necessary? I’m not down for any of that.

As I said up thread, mask-wearing and social-distancing will be necessary at least seasonally or in times of heightened community spread going forward. Also, annual vaccines/boosters much like the flu shot. The masking and social distancing will be important because a significant portion of the population will not submit to an annual vaccine. Things are never going to be the way they were before ever again. Covid will be with us forever.

^^^^Only you will be masking r117, I will not wear a mask unless made too, people need to do the right thing or die, it's really that simple.

[quote]Everyone forgets that the regular flu kills hundred of thousand of people in the US every year.

You know you can look these things up. The average number of flu deaths in the US per year is under 34,000. Hardly the "hundreds of thousands" you claim. Back to your Ivermectin protocol, Mary!

R129, the vaccinated don’t have to worry about death or hospitalization.

R130 Only about NOT being hospitalized, because all the beds are taken up by unvaccinated morons.

R131, huh?

Yahoo!

Covid will die out everywhere but the US, CNN will not allow it to die. They will invent new strains for ratings.

[quote] I will not wear a mask unless made too,

Oh, dear!

[quote] Covid will die out everywhere but the US, CNN will not allow it to die.

You, sir, are a moron.

R136 you sir are dumber than dirt.

At least I know how to use commas, you FUCKING moron.

I think people want to keep Covid hysteria going to control others. It’s an excuse to be a bully

[quote] I think people want to keep Covid hysteria going to control others.

Or... It remains a real threat and idiots like you are trying to distract from that threat for some stupid reason.

Don't you love how the rubes have all fallen for our reverse psychology ploy? We knew they would do the opposite of what we, the educated and intelligent, said to do so we hatched a plan. In order to kill off as many hicks and rubes as we could, we told you to wear masks knowing, the whole time, that you dumb rubes would do the exact opposite and end up killing yourselves en masse. Thanks for doing exactly what we wanted you to do all along.

The case numbers and % positive are kind of meaningless, to me at least, since not everyone gets tested. We'll never know the true infection rate among the population as a whole.

Even the death statistics may not be accurate, because someone's death could be recorded officially as from some cause other than covid; for example the comorbidity could be written as the actual cause of death.

Or people could die of covid without ever knowing for certain they had it. And some actively deny they have it, even when diagnosed with it.

There are people who will never mask, never distance socially and certainly will never submit to a vaccine. They will just continue to spread the virus and clog up the hospitals.

No, R142, all covid deaths have been accurately recorded. There were surprisingly few!