Hahaha. I don't know if I like her or dislike her, but I do know I love it when she pisses the right people off.
AOC's "Tax The Rich" Met Gala gown is making social media freak out
|by Anonymous||reply 375||September 22, 2021 9:31 PM|
It is awesome. I think she's too far left but the rich really are taxed too little. Trump, Bezos, Zuckerberg and the rest of them, they're basically laughing about how little tax they have to pay.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||September 14, 2021 9:12 AM|
R1 You mean because they pay none?
|by Anonymous||reply 2||September 14, 2021 9:14 AM|
Now that's how you troll the trolls.
|by Anonymous||reply 3||September 14, 2021 9:42 AM|
[quote]I think she's too far left
I find the differences in culture fascinating, because in my country and many others, AOC would be considered centre-left, and a lot of what she is advocating for is just common practice now.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||September 14, 2021 9:45 AM|
I like it, it shuts up the usual right wing "waaah, she's wearing something that costs more than $12.99" trolls.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||September 14, 2021 9:46 AM|
Smart! All publicity she gets for this, whether pro or con, has to include that message.
Sure beats "I Really Don't Care, Do U?"
|by Anonymous||reply 6||September 14, 2021 9:49 AM|
I like her but this is immature and not a solid move for anyone who wants a serious career in Washington. Tacky.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||September 14, 2021 9:54 AM|
So, she wants to be taxed more?
|by Anonymous||reply 8||September 14, 2021 9:57 AM|
[quote]I find the differences in culture fascinating, because in my country and many others, AOC would be considered centre-left, and a lot of what she is advocating for is just common practice now.
Dont be fooled by the posters here. We do not all think she is "too left". It's just a mantra conservatives like to say all the time to push their right wing agenda. They dont really know what left of center is because they are locked in their own tiny bubble and never even peek into what the rest of the world looks like. A lot of people under they age of say 55 have no problem with her ideology and probably agree with her. She got elected for a reason.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||September 14, 2021 9:57 AM|
"Tax the rich" is ultimately as hollow as "Defund the police".
It's great that it's a snappy slogan than can appear in a hashtag and on the back of a dress but it's not going to change anyone's minds.
Where is the policy on which taxes and who? Property taxes? Wealth taxes? Income tax? Investment tax? Taxes on stocks and shares?
And where's the analysis of the impact. Put a tax on landlords? Great! What happens when a couple in their 40s decide its not worth keeping the apartment one of them owned before they got married and put it up for sale. What happens when likeminded people all do the same? Some basic figures would be helpful but that won't fit in a tweet.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||September 14, 2021 9:58 AM|
She's the kind of progressive I agree with. Nancy Pelosi and Biden represent the bipartisan obsessed establishment that's outdated thanks to the Republican Party not being interested in bipartisanship at all. Nancy wastes precious time to wait for the GOP to reach over the aisle, and when it's not coming, she declares that only then it's ok for the Democratic Party to do something on their own. I mean, the right wing conservative media and the Deplorables will never give Nancy any credit for trying to do something with the conservatives, and if she finally gets something done they complain that it's not on their terms, and they use every dirty trick in the book to stall and block. And that plays out on a loop. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has no time and patience for such bullshit.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||September 14, 2021 9:58 AM|
Yes Boris R8. Some people in the US are not all about thefts, whores and money. Some actually fight for the middle class here. Unlike your shit hole country where you put them in jail and beat them to death or poison them.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||September 14, 2021 9:59 AM|
Oh no. Count 3,2,1 until Piers Morgan writes a hysterical column bitching about how dreadful AOC is for wearing a fancy dress and how that disqualifies her for ever talking about poverty again, blah blah blah.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||September 14, 2021 10:01 AM|
I think she gets $174,000 a year for being a House Rep but it's really the billionaires who need to be taxed properly, pay their fair share.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||September 14, 2021 10:02 AM|
I agree with the message but that dress looks a giant bloody tampon.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||September 14, 2021 10:04 AM|
I think it should be “tax the Ultra Rich”, because regular rich people pay plenty of taxes.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||September 14, 2021 10:05 AM|
Isn't there a bit of an irony/hypocrisy in wearing such a "message" at a haute couture gala event that's full of rich people? Does she mean the Rihanna billionaire type of rich or some other rich?
How much is her outfit worth?
|by Anonymous||reply 17||September 14, 2021 10:07 AM|
I guess "collect the taxes on the rich" or "close the tax gap" would have been more accurate but this story has been in the news and needs more attention.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||September 14, 2021 10:11 AM|
AOC = Always On Camera
|by Anonymous||reply 19||September 14, 2021 10:14 AM|
[quote]Isn't there a bit of an irony/hypocrisy in wearing such a "message" at a haute couture gala event that's full of rich people?
Wearing it at an event that is entirely about the rich showing off how rich they are is THE best place to wear it.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||September 14, 2021 10:15 AM|
Took the words out of my mouth, R20.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||September 14, 2021 10:16 AM|
This bitch attends a gala filled with rich people so she could smooche with them while virtual signaling bs. Most people shouldn't take her seriously after this. She reminds me of that YouTube's Hasan who wore tax the rich t shirt then he buys a 3 million dollar house in West Hollywood. A bunch of fake socialists. I guess AOC will be taxing herself.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||September 14, 2021 10:18 AM|
Reminds me of when I wear my “I Like Coffee At Home” sweatshirt to Starbucks.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||September 14, 2021 10:18 AM|
Right r20 and r21, so you think AOC was targeting rich people such as the billionaire Rihanna?
|by Anonymous||reply 24||September 14, 2021 10:20 AM|
[quote]Isn't there a bit of an irony/hypocrisy in wearing such a "message" at a haute couture gala event that's full of rich people?
Well, yes. But she could hardly justify attending the gala (in order to get all dolled up in couture, hobnob with celebs and get her picture taken a zillion times) WITHOUT some lip service to the poor. She had to make a gesture, otherwise she would have been reamed for being there in the first place. See?
As it is, Fox News has its schedule of round the clock coverage handed to them on a silver platter for the rest of the week.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||September 14, 2021 10:21 AM|
She couldn't just go and have a good time. Does every fucking thing need to be a content platform?
|by Anonymous||reply 26||September 14, 2021 10:21 AM|
When Emma Raducanu won the US Open the UK left were glorifying her because she's an immigrant - born in Canada to Romanian and Chinese parents and moved to England aged 2.
That her parents are wealthy financiers working in banking and she's now a multi millionaire is not relevant.
TAX THE RICH - how much should Raducanu - who just got paid $2,500,000 for winning a sporting tournament be taxed?
|by Anonymous||reply 27||September 14, 2021 10:21 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 28||September 14, 2021 10:23 AM|
R22 I always think that the issue is that human nature is to keep power/money/privilege for themselves in most cases, so the issue is really to not appeal to people's consciences (because that really won't work) but to legally enshrine it. That's why I never really think that kind of argument is a good one. If anything it just demonstrates that human nature can't do the altruistic thing in most cases and that's why it really should be put into law and enforced.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||September 14, 2021 10:25 AM|
[quote]Where is the policy on which taxes and who? Property taxes? Wealth taxes? Income tax? Investment tax? Taxes on stocks and shares?
Yes. And let's not forget estate taxes.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||September 14, 2021 10:27 AM|
How about Medicare for All instead of this silly dress?
|by Anonymous||reply 31||September 14, 2021 10:29 AM|
R31 But how would Medicare for All be funded?
|by Anonymous||reply 32||September 14, 2021 10:29 AM|
[quote]so she could smooche
The trolls that flood this place in the overnight hours are absolutely terrible at spelling, at verb tenses and idioms, they usually forget a word or two, it's just sloppy work.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||September 14, 2021 10:30 AM|
r32: See r30.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||September 14, 2021 10:30 AM|
[quote]Yes. And let's not forget estate taxes.
That's great - except families who stand to lose $$$$ through raised taxes will spend $$ on clever lawyers and accountants to make sure they can minimise their tax liabilities.
Meanwhile the 50 year old datalounger who lives in his mother's basement stands to lose his home in the event of his mother's death because they can't afford the tax dodge.
So how do you make sure it's a fair system? How many tweets will explain that?
|by Anonymous||reply 35||September 14, 2021 10:31 AM|
R30 It comes down to.. taxing the rich. Her slogan is pretty much right. But the problem is - does it win over people? Or does it just polarize people more?
|by Anonymous||reply 36||September 14, 2021 10:32 AM|
R36 it isn't winning over anyone except her already rapid brain dead fans. The irony of her dress and the event she attended.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||September 14, 2021 10:36 AM|
R32 - how about instead of paying for contracts to make obsolete war machines for the buddies of the old oil boys, we use it to fund Medicare? Do you know how many trillions are wasted each year on this? How about taxing people like they do in normal civilized countries?
|by Anonymous||reply 38||September 14, 2021 10:36 AM|
She is a shameless poseur who has indecently exploited the left, in her quest to be the next corporate multimillionaire with populist pretensions, à la Barack Obama. As Glenn Greenwald mentioned, nothing screams "dissident" like attending a wasteful event created by the élites, based on frivolous motives and designed to be a celebration of unrestricted consumerism and grotesque avarice.
What I find most repugnant is her 'This is MY moment to shine!' expression - it's evident that she is delighted to be seen among the oligarchs and their cohorts, standing out as the token pseudo-Socialist enfant terrible that everybody praises because, you know, she is just SO daring! Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha... 🙄
The Fraud Squad are truly despicable, and proof of what Chris Hedges says: the vast majority of those who seek power are mediocre, vulgar and talentless individuals who display signs of extreme narcissism, and want to reinforce their grandiose perception of themselves by putting themselves in a position that allows them to exploit everybody around them.
|by Anonymous||reply 39||September 14, 2021 10:38 AM|
R33 Grammar nazis need to cut people some slack. Some post on their cell phones and they have very fat fingers and there is still no edit function, like every other online forum in existence.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||September 14, 2021 10:38 AM|
R38, I don't even know all of AOC's policy positions but I'm already like 99% sure that she would agree with you on that! (As do I.)
|by Anonymous||reply 41||September 14, 2021 10:38 AM|
R40 I really have been wondering if those people are on the autistic spectrum or something because I don't understand why some people can't recognize obvious typos. People on the autistic spectrum lack cognitive empathy.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||September 14, 2021 10:40 AM|
Eh, they want her to come, Anna Wintour courts her. She's a gorgeous lightening rod.
Imagine some rich vapid asshole gabbing with her about their socialist pretensions at the event. Then she turns to leave and they read her dress. I like that.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||September 14, 2021 10:41 AM|
R39 = Milky Loads Sullavan.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||September 14, 2021 10:41 AM|
How could poor little AOC afford the 30,000 dollar ticket to the gala?
|by Anonymous||reply 45||September 14, 2021 10:43 AM|
I'm not handing out Oh, Dears or calling someone stupid for a misspelling, r33, I'm pointing out the very real, easily observable phenomenon of the trolls who say the most trollish things also frequently skipping words, messing up verb tenses, spelling words incorrectly, etc.
You sound like you're lobbing ad hominem attacks to defend trolls and that's kind of weird.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||September 14, 2021 10:46 AM|
Yes, r42, I'm an autistic psychopath because I pointed out that the troll calling AOC a "virtual [sic] signaling bitch" was, like many of our overnight trolls, having trouble with his words.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||September 14, 2021 10:48 AM|
When AOC says "Tax the Rich", who does she believe should be imposing these taxes? Surely she must mean lawmakers, because only they are the ones with the power to impose taxes. But she herself is a lawmaker, so she is addressing her colleagues. If she has not been able to convince her fellow lawmakers to raise taxes then she must be a failure. Is a stunt like this really going to convince her fellow lawmakers, when her well-drafted tax policy proposals were unable to?
|by Anonymous||reply 48||September 14, 2021 10:48 AM|
[quote] trolls who say the most trollish things also frequently skipping words, messing up verb tenses, spelling words incorrectly, etc.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||September 14, 2021 10:49 AM|
R46 / R46 They put on an extra 'e' on 'smooch' and you think that makes them a troll? No, it's kind of clear it's a typo/fat fingers. Yes, maybe you are on the autistic spectrum, because I did not really see anything much else obviously 'foreign' or wrong with the way they wrote.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||September 14, 2021 10:49 AM|
It's what they wrote, r50. They called her a "virtue signaling bitch." That's trolling. Are you saying it's not?
|by Anonymous||reply 51||September 14, 2021 10:51 AM|
R26, do you have ANY idea what the Met Gala is? No one is there to have a good time. No one. From start to finish, it is about being seen at the Met Gala. They are all working.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||September 14, 2021 10:52 AM|
R48 No, it's the voters. They vote for lawmakers. I guess she thinks this might be a good publicity stunt to try to get the message out to voters? I'm not convinced but in the end lawmakers are voted in by voters.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||September 14, 2021 10:53 AM|
[quote] If she has not been able to convince her fellow lawmakers to raise taxes then she must be a failure.
That's now how it works in this country. In order to convince fellow lawmakers, you need to convince the people who vote those other law makers into office. So she is appealing to the public, not the lawmakers. If they agree with her, they are the ones who will push the other lawmakers to get off their ass and do something.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||September 14, 2021 10:54 AM|
It’s “schmooze” (not “smooche”).
|by Anonymous||reply 55||September 14, 2021 10:55 AM|
[quote]That's trolling. Are you saying it's not?
Troll/trolling = Anything posted contrary to R51's peculiar worldview.
|by Anonymous||reply 56||September 14, 2021 10:56 AM|
[quote] How could poor little AOC afford the 30,000 dollar ticket to the gala?
I was the coat check manager for the Met Ball about 15 years ago (whatever year it was that Jessica Simpson looked like an Oompa Lumpa).
There is a lot of obnoxiousness, yes, but it is also a major event on the social calendar and a point of departure for all of the other small parties the celebs will attend into the wee hours of the morning. That is to say, for the upper echelon, it is a really buoyant and fun event and a good time is had by all (except the staff). I remember attendants that year including Melania & Donald (who wasn't as externally hideous yet), Queen Raina of Jordan (who had about 8 bodyguards), Tom and Gisele (who, I must admit, were otherworldly)... and Representative Carolyn Maloney (who made certain that everyone knew she was Representative Carolyn Maloney).
|by Anonymous||reply 57||September 14, 2021 10:56 AM|
[quote]Queen Raina of Jordan
That's RANIA, peasant!
|by Anonymous||reply 58||September 14, 2021 10:58 AM|
Wearing an expensive gown that says "Tax the Rich" at an event that costs minimum $35,000 a ticket where everyone else there are mainly limousine liberals and people like Megan Fox and Lil Nas X sends what message...and to whom exactly?
In the meantime, actual protestors were being manhandled and arrested protesting the event.
|by Anonymous||reply 59||September 14, 2021 11:03 AM|
All right, r50, your lack of reply is duly noted.
What r22 wrote was trolling. I said that this troll also had a lot of the same writing errors that our other overnight trolls do. You've since said that I called them "foreign" (I didn't) and that I said their errors mean they're trolls (I didn't) and also I'm autistic and lack "cognitive empathy." You've said that twice now in what's obviously meant to be an attack.
To me, it sounds like you saw the opportunity to rant about your personal pet peeve of autistics, who you apparently really dislike because they're autistic, and didn't pay attention to what was really going on, which is kind of weird but I'd bet you do this on a lot of threads, so I'll just let you keep on keepin' on with that. Enjoy.
|by Anonymous||reply 60||September 14, 2021 11:07 AM|
AOC obviously likely went to try to raise publicity for her 'tax the rich' message. We can argue whether it works or not (I am skeptical personally) but no way she paid 30,000 to go or even endorses that kind of fee.
|by Anonymous||reply 61||September 14, 2021 11:11 AM|
[quote]People on the autistic spectrum lack cognitive empathy.
As a person on the autistic spectrum who lacks cognitive empathy, I fine cognitive empathy nothing but a load of cognitive empathy.
|by Anonymous||reply 62||September 14, 2021 11:14 AM|
[quote]but no way she paid 30,000 to go or even endorses that kind of fee.
R61, discovering reality about Ocasio-Cortez.
|by Anonymous||reply 63||September 14, 2021 11:15 AM|
"HER" tax the rich message? Pretty sure people like Sanders and Warren were saying it long before AOC flounced into the Met Gala. Pretty sure the Clintons did raise taxes on the rich way back when. Pretty sure it's a well known position that doesn't need ass writing to gain attention.
|by Anonymous||reply 64||September 14, 2021 11:15 AM|
R60 why did you focus on grammar to prove that they were a troll? You are obviously implying that they're foreign (Russian) but I think they just sound like your average uneducated American type of grammatical and spelling mistakes. You likely can't recognise that because you're Asperger's.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||September 14, 2021 11:15 AM|
R62 Lack of cognitive empathy means that you can't put yourself in the shoes of someone else. You think this was a Russian when it's fairly clear it's a sloppy uneducated American. The irony is that a Russian trained in English would likely have made more correct English spellings.
|by Anonymous||reply 66||September 14, 2021 11:18 AM|
[quote]"HER" tax the rich message? Pretty sure people like Sanders and Warren were saying it long before AOC flounced into the Met Gala. Pretty sure the Clintons did raise taxes on the rich way back when. Pretty sure it's a well known position that doesn't need ass writing to gain attention.
Excuse me ma'am but I think you'll see that AOC did indeed invent the concept of higher taxes for rich people. Literally no one ever considered this as a way of making a fairer society before AOC had the idea.
|by Anonymous||reply 67||September 14, 2021 11:21 AM|
The problem with the tax the rich farce in Biden's plan is that it focuses on income and leaves, as the TIMES put it, wealth "gains" and I inheritance pretty much alone. As I heritanceis one of the primary causes of the huge gap between the haves and have nots.
And how adorable to attend one of the most socially posh events in America where every single guest has a fleet of accountants make sure their money is shielded from any laws AOC votes into law.
|by Anonymous||reply 68||September 14, 2021 11:21 AM|
R59 you said it better than I did.
She's a classic champagne socialist.
|by Anonymous||reply 69||September 14, 2021 11:24 AM|
Or aren't even US tax payers.
|by Anonymous||reply 70||September 14, 2021 11:25 AM|
How the hell would her tax the rich message work?
The people who need to be convinced to tax the rich because billionaires are vulgar are NOT going to be watching the MET gala except to mock all the narcissism.
So tired of rich white liberals acting like they’re poor. When she says tax the rich she doesn’t mean her friends and celebrities, she just means her enemies.
That’s how specialism work. You shame people for wanting capitalism to make money. And then milk capitalism to become richer and famous while continuing to virtual signal about how bad wealth is.
|by Anonymous||reply 71||September 14, 2021 11:29 AM|
But the typo still kinda works.
|by Anonymous||reply 72||September 14, 2021 11:30 AM|
AOC really isn’t advocating for anything that was any different than FDR’s Social Security or JFK and civil rights or LBJ and Medicare. But Republicans hate strong women. Especially women of color. And AOC is cutting into the GOP’s corporate welfare socialist agenda.
|by Anonymous||reply 73||September 14, 2021 11:34 AM|
Oh look Morning Joe r69 is posting here.
You know, that "limousine liberal" bull shit line is about 20 years old right? It's not a crime to be progressing and make a decent living. I dont know why Repugs cant get that idea through their tiny heads. Taxing people who make billions of dollars to pay their fair share does not mean they want everyone else to live in poverty. Repugs are so black and white. You can champion good causes and still be wealthy, it's not that hard of a concept to grasp.
|by Anonymous||reply 74||September 14, 2021 11:34 AM|
[quote]Lack of cognitive empathy means that you can't put yourself in the shoes of someone else. You think this was a Russian when it's fairly clear it's a sloppy uneducated American. The irony is that a Russian trained in English would likely have made more correct English spellings.
Your lack of cognitive empathy is showing r66. I have posted nothing on this thread that implies that I think anyone here is a Russian troll. I highly doubt that real Russian trolls bother too much with the Datalounge. It would probably interfere with their consumption of bad vodka and whole raw onions.
|by Anonymous||reply 75||September 14, 2021 11:34 AM|
R75, hey dude, you know that making a typo or a spelling/grammar mistake doesn't make someone a troll if they actually believe what they're saying?
|by Anonymous||reply 76||September 14, 2021 11:39 AM|
I truly hope R67 is satire. Are civics no longer taught in U.S. schools?
|by Anonymous||reply 77||September 14, 2021 11:41 AM|
R77 - Yes. Everything is racism. It's the one and only ideal.
|by Anonymous||reply 78||September 14, 2021 11:42 AM|
It's a joke R77, what country are you posting from? NO civics are not taught in US schools have not done so in 30 YEARS!
|by Anonymous||reply 79||September 14, 2021 11:44 AM|
I think she wanted to go to the gala and this was the only way to do it without looking like a hypocrite. A lot of the quests aren’t really rich. They’ are rappers and influencers who are hot now and will broke, and forgotten in 10 years.
|by Anonymous||reply 80||September 14, 2021 11:50 AM|
The thing is people like AOC tend to signal they don’t understand people, money, or wealth, and this winds up being endearing to the masses.
A lot of these super liberal celebrities have people in the background making sure they pay as little as possible in taxes. Hollywood will go to the outskirts of Canada to film car commercials and shit because LA is too expensive. But when you hear them tell it, they’ve never met a tax they didn’t like.
|by Anonymous||reply 81||September 14, 2021 11:52 AM|
The "Hollywood" you are talking about are not Liberals or Progressives. The people who finance movies are mostly conservative bankers and other money types that are VERY Republican and the real people who drive the movie train. They just don't exist in the public eye.
|by Anonymous||reply 82||September 14, 2021 11:58 AM|
No one loves billionaires like I do!
|by Anonymous||reply 83||September 14, 2021 12:01 PM|
This year's theme "American Independence" seems to have been designed to create political statements by attendees.
|by Anonymous||reply 84||September 14, 2021 12:01 PM|
AOC’s dress is spot on. It’s a shame that centrist dems like Biden and Nancy Pelosi would help rich people before they help poor people. I despise those two.
|by Anonymous||reply 85||September 14, 2021 12:09 PM|
A politician's first job is to get elected. Everything else is secondary.
|by Anonymous||reply 86||September 14, 2021 12:12 PM|
[quote[Wearing an expensive gown that says "Tax the Rich" at an event that costs minimum $35,000 a ticket where everyone else there are mainly limousine liberals and people like Megan Fox and Lil Nas X sends what message...and to whom exactly?
To whom? To the world press, Einstein. And from there to the voters. Let them know where politicians stand on the subject of equity and fairness in the American tax system.
|by Anonymous||reply 87||September 14, 2021 12:17 PM|
AOC lives in your heads rent free and I love it.
|by Anonymous||reply 88||September 14, 2021 12:48 PM|
[quote] This bitch attends a gala filled with rich people so she could smooche with them while virtual signaling bs. Most people shouldn't take her seriously after this. She reminds me of that YouTube's Hasan who wore tax the rich t shirt then he buys a 3 million dollar house in West Hollywood. A bunch of fake socialists. I guess AOC will be taxing herself.
Spot on, R22. Except she doesn't mean taxing herself, people like her always mean it to apply only those who are richer than they are. Of course, in reality, it always ends up hitting the middle class.
|by Anonymous||reply 89||September 14, 2021 1:00 PM|
Lmao had no idea this obnoxious bitch had cheerleaders here on dl, well not surprisingly since there's a handful of burntards.
|by Anonymous||reply 90||September 14, 2021 1:01 PM|
Um, where have you been, R90? AOC and Meghan are DL's Queens. HRC has been dethroned for at least 3 years now.
|by Anonymous||reply 91||September 14, 2021 1:04 PM|
Vote this cunt out.
|by Anonymous||reply 92||September 14, 2021 1:05 PM|
She's the best. Dump Gillibrand and replace her with AOC.
|by Anonymous||reply 93||September 14, 2021 1:06 PM|
R93. You can't serious. At least Gillibrand is not an insufferable attention whore.
|by Anonymous||reply 94||September 14, 2021 1:07 PM|
I'm totally serious. R94. And I think Gillibrand is an exactly and precisely an insufferable attention whore.
I have not forgotten what she did to Al Franken. And I won't ever forget it. Get rid of her.
|by Anonymous||reply 95||September 14, 2021 1:09 PM|
Gillibrand is a Jew scapegoating cunt, undeserving of public office.
|by Anonymous||reply 96||September 14, 2021 1:10 PM|
AOC is not afraid to speak out against the crimes of white supremacist Israel. Gillabrand is a Zionist cuntZ
|by Anonymous||reply 97||September 14, 2021 1:11 PM|
The American public already agrees with her. Sorry Republicunts.
|by Anonymous||reply 98||September 14, 2021 1:14 PM|
[quote]I like her but this is immature and not a solid move for anyone who wants a serious career in Washington. Tacky.
Sad to say, but being an attention whore that garners a lot of attention and raises a lot of $$ but gets very little done appears to be on trend for Washington these days.
|by Anonymous||reply 99||September 14, 2021 1:15 PM|
[quote] It's great that it's a snappy slogan than can appear in a hashtag and on the back of a dress but it's not going to change anyone's minds.
Americans support taxing the rich, idiot.
|by Anonymous||reply 100||September 14, 2021 1:15 PM|
Gillibrand is a cunt in every sense of the word. Flip flopper who cares only about power for herself. Metoo hypocrite who was happy to use the Clintons, Weinstein, Cuomo, and Schneiderman for their connections. Nobody likes her and she’ll never be anything other than a senator so vote this cunt out New York!
|by Anonymous||reply 101||September 14, 2021 1:16 PM|
Why is a political leader at the gala. Ugh.
|by Anonymous||reply 102||September 14, 2021 1:18 PM|
R97 One Jew-hating cunt praising another.
|by Anonymous||reply 103||September 14, 2021 1:18 PM|
She obviously hasn't been getting enough attention lately. I cringed when I saw here there. If you notice, the pictures of her with the other person she was posing with looked totally unhappy. while AOC kept grinning from ear to ear. The perception this gives is not a good one for one of our politicians. We know most of them have more money than the rest of the country and they get to hob-nob with the best of them but they have never thrown it in our face before. If she wants to be so famous maybe she should try Hollywood or maybe that would be too much work for her.
|by Anonymous||reply 104||September 14, 2021 1:24 PM|
[quote] no way she paid 30,000 to go or even endorses that kind of fee.
No doubt she got her ticket gratis - but by being there, she fucking well IS endorsing it.
|by Anonymous||reply 105||September 14, 2021 1:28 PM|
Chill, ladies. The dress said "Tax the Rich." How can that even be controversial.
It didn't say "Eat the Rich," or "Kill the Rich," or even "Hunt the Rich."
Any of which would have been fine with me. But AOC showed remarkable restraint in her messaging.
Let's be clear about the dress. That's not an expensive gown. It looks like a student creation at FIT or Parsons.
|by Anonymous||reply 106||September 14, 2021 1:29 PM|
it may not have been expensive like the rest of them but it was designed for her by Brooklyn-based designer brand Brother Vellies. If she was going to go it should have been low key but no, it had to say, Look at ME, Look at ME. what was on her gown meant nothing and isn't going to do anything. someone posted with a picture and said she was competing against someone who wore a gown , can't remember what year, I think it was 3 years ago that, that had Build The Bridge written on the back of her dress
|by Anonymous||reply 107||September 14, 2021 1:38 PM|
Did anyone else hear one of the Simpsons nerds’ voices reading R10?
Curious if you heard nerd 1, nerd 2, or Comic Book Guy, himself.
|by Anonymous||reply 108||September 14, 2021 1:47 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 109||September 14, 2021 1:48 PM|
A short history of corporate tax rates:
Reagan: 34% Clinton: 35% Bush: 35% Obama: 35% Trump: 21%
|by Anonymous||reply 110||September 14, 2021 1:48 PM|
[quote]capitalist realism has so captured public thought that the idea of anti-capitalism no longer acts as the antithesis to capitalism. Instead, it is deployed as a means for reinforcing capitalism. This is done through media which aims to provide a safe means of consuming anti-capitalist ideas without actually challenging the system. The lack of coherent alternatives, as presented through the lens of capitalist realism, leads many anti-capitalist movements to cease targeting the end of capitalism, but instead to mitigate its worst effects, often through individual consumption-based activities
|by Anonymous||reply 111||September 14, 2021 2:34 PM|
During the eight years of the Eisenhower presidency, from 1953 to 1961, the top marginal rate was 91 percent. (It was 92 percent the year he came into office.
|by Anonymous||reply 112||September 14, 2021 2:50 PM|
[quote]To whom? To the world press, Einstein. And from there to the voters. Let them know where politicians stand on the subject of equity and fairness in the American tax system.
Hey genius... it's not some obscure message that nobody would recognize had AOC not gone all bougie. The voters are well aware of it too. Surprise! And if that was truly her goal then she should have worn it at the protest occuring right outside the Met...she would have been noticed just the same AND kept her progressive creds intact.
|by Anonymous||reply 113||September 14, 2021 2:55 PM|
R74 The phrase's age has nothing to do with its applicability.
You can be wealthy and support good causes - easy ones that don't really impact your wealth and your children's because privately, you quietly ignore the ones that might because you can hire experts to help you do just that.
Sort of like Prince Harry bleating about climate change while his four-person family occupy a home with 16 bathrooms in drought stricken California.
We call them champagne socialists over here. Do you like that better?
|by Anonymous||reply 114||September 14, 2021 3:06 PM|
While the celebrity attendees of the Met Gala make it a media spectacle, it is actually a charity event to raise funds for the Costume Institute and attended by many old world old money top .01% types. NY area politicians are often invited. Hillary Clinton has gone at least once and Bloomberg has attended several times. And AOC didn't pay to attend if she was one of the Vogue invitee--they are comped.
|by Anonymous||reply 115||September 14, 2021 3:15 PM|
Her message does not challenge the rich at all. All of these rich asshole can pretend to agree and make themselves look ethical, but when tax time comes around they are colluding with their accountants to pay less taxes. If the rich and powerful were actually threatened by AOC, she would not be allowed to attend this event.
The MET would never actually invite someone who threatens the wealth and status of the elite.
|by Anonymous||reply 116||September 14, 2021 3:16 PM|
[quote]Taxing people who make billions of dollars to pay their fair share …
As someone previously posted, the exceedingly rich don’t EARN billions of dollars, as income. The assets of the very rich (stocks, etc) accrue value, assets are then sold to support extravagant lives, and the sale is taxed at the capital gains rate (that is, the tax on sale of assets), which is way lower than income tax rates.
At least, I think that’s how it works. Not sure how to fix the individual capital gains tax issue. (AOC has no clue either, other than to scrawl “tax the rich” on her own ass.) But it needs to be fixed.
The upper [bold]income[/bold] tax rate (the tax rate on the higher tiers of income), in the 1950s & 1960s, was way higher than it is now. Then Reagan came along.
That's one of the reasons business owners' income is so much higher than their workers' income these days.
|by Anonymous||reply 117||September 14, 2021 3:23 PM|
Everybody talks a big game, but at the end of the day all anybody really wants is to sit at the cool kids table.
|by Anonymous||reply 118||September 14, 2021 3:25 PM|
How much money is considered "rich?" I need to know so that I can decide if I agree with her dress or not.
|by Anonymous||reply 119||September 14, 2021 3:30 PM|
Adding to r110: Eisenhower corporate tax rate: 52%
From the Economic Policy Institute (2013):
[quote] The top statutory corporate tax rate has been falling since the early 1950s. The top corporate tax rate was 52 percent throughout the Eisenhower administration—17 percentage points higher than the current top rate of 35 percent.
|by Anonymous||reply 120||September 14, 2021 3:35 PM|
R117 You are talking about investment income AND capital gains, but rich people find other ways to pay less taxes, like keeping their money in offshore bank accounts, continually deferring capital gains tax(which is already low), and by donating a certain amount to charity, so they get put in a lower tax bracket which ironically lets them keep more money.
|by Anonymous||reply 121||September 14, 2021 3:37 PM|
[quote]I love it when she pisses the right people off.
How is she “pisses off the toe hit people.”? Seems like she’s really helping out “the right people.
She’s dumber than a box of cat hair, every stupid thing she does sends the progressive web war room off to their various corners of the web to post these insipid comments on how AOC “Owned” this thing or that thing…but people are onto that now. She’s an idiot OP, and rational Democrats like me don’t love her by the twisted idea of party loyalty you suggest we’re supposed to have by default, lest we be cancelled.
She’s a dotard. LITERALLY more stupid and delusional than Trump himself. Was the embarrassing irony of her own actions completely lost on her? Of course it was. She was really feeling herself, wasn’t she OP?… and yet there she was, in what is arguably one of the most famous class-based events on Earth. Wearing tens of thousands of dollars in designer gown. Arriving via limousine, before going back to D.C. and her rented multi-million dollar Georgetown flat…but not before going back home that evening to celebrate and toast her clueless self as she lounged in her NEW, multi-million dollar New York condo. All of which she accomplishes on the humble salary of a bartender turned junior Congresswoman. ……and she’s talking about “taxing the rich” and “pissing off the right people”. Is this why you think she did it and what she accomplished? Really?
You’re eye-blinkingly stupid if that’s what you think.
|by Anonymous||reply 122||September 14, 2021 3:37 PM|
It is not awesome. Politicians are not celebrities.
|by Anonymous||reply 123||September 14, 2021 3:42 PM|
R120 and others...whike then tax rate was higher in the past... rich people actually didn't pay that rate. When Kennedy cut the rate, the government took in more tax dollars since it wasn't worth the price of tax sheltering. So there was a time that tax income collected rose while the tax rate decreased.
[quote]And AOC didn't pay to attend if she was one of the Vogue invitee--they are comped.
This makes it worse. No politician should accept expensive gifts. There's no difference between accepting a comp on a $35,000 gala and a dress and a republican accepting a vacation.
And because Clinton and Bloomberg have done it doesn't make it right. This is the equivalent of the WH correspondence dinner, which is another event that politicians should steer clear of.
|by Anonymous||reply 124||September 14, 2021 3:44 PM|
[quote] Wearing it at an event that is entirely about the rich showing off how rich they are is THE best place to wear it.
How very naive you are. She is just enabling it all. Yes I got make-up and hair people and this very expensive gown but look what it says. See, I'm not one of THEM.
Sure, Jan. She is too young mentally to be where she is.
[quote] Everybody talks a big game, but at the end of the day all anybody really wants is to sit at the cool kids table.
Yes, R118, you nailed. Just like her posing for fashion magazine. She wants it both ways. She wants to indulge in frivolous rich people's pursuits but disguise it as not.
She really wants to be a celebrity and she found her entry card via politics. Happens all the time. The difference with her is she is spouting pie-in-the-sky things you want to hear.
|by Anonymous||reply 125||September 14, 2021 3:44 PM|
If she is accepting a ticket free, how is this not a gift?Politicians are not supposed to accept gifts, this is a violation of ethics. That being said, she probably was not the only one with a free ticket.
|by Anonymous||reply 126||September 14, 2021 3:47 PM|
Invited guests do not pay, so an invited politician is not being treated any differently than any other invited guest.
|by Anonymous||reply 127||September 14, 2021 3:52 PM|
[quote]Invited guests do not pay, so an invited politician is not being treated any differently than any other invited guest.
Hmm. That actually sounds like a scam work-around so you CAN accept a gift. How is this event tied to her work in congress?
|by Anonymous||reply 128||September 14, 2021 3:55 PM|
R128 are you really this ignorant, or just trolling?
Politicians have attended for YEARS, both Dem and Repub. It's a CHARITY FUNDRAISER.
|by Anonymous||reply 129||September 14, 2021 4:00 PM|
[quote]How is this event tied to her work in congress?
Hence the 'statement' dress.
|by Anonymous||reply 130||September 14, 2021 4:02 PM|
[quote] Politicians have attended for YEARS, both Dem and Repub. It's a CHARITY FUNDRAISER.
Is that in the rules? Can they accept for a charity fundraiser? haven't looked at them in eons.
|by Anonymous||reply 131||September 14, 2021 6:07 PM|
[quote]Now, you could say that wearing a “TAX THE RICH” gown at such a high-dollar event is a little questionable as a message. And of course, right now her detractors are tearing it up on social and conservative media, trying to find a reason to accuse her of some sort of woke hypocrisy.
[quote]And if you think the message is an odd one to sport while mingling with the wealthy, who do you think needs to hear that message most?
|by Anonymous||reply 132||September 14, 2021 6:20 PM|
Oh please Cinderella just wanted to go to the ball. You're forgetting how young she is. I just wish she'd stop the hypocrisy.
|by Anonymous||reply 133||September 14, 2021 6:21 PM|
she went there to beg for donations. that's what all these pols do on the phone all day. She went there in person to beg in person.
|by Anonymous||reply 134||September 14, 2021 6:30 PM|
No R24. Ghetto rich is AOK with AOC.
|by Anonymous||reply 135||September 14, 2021 9:01 PM|
Poor delusional R43. No one wealthy has any interest in chatting up this annoying bug eyed gnat.
And AOC "gorgeous"? Oh honey. No.
|by Anonymous||reply 136||September 14, 2021 9:15 PM|
It was a little predictable that the nasty old gays would become republicans once gay marriage was settled.
Lawd you all need some fresh air.
She looked great! There's no law that says you can't look good and be socially conscious too! Only Republicans and capitalists think anyone critiquing their rapacious criminality has to dress like a nun all the time.
Also, she's literally proposed legislation to raise the taxes of the Rich. If it were no big deal and the rich could easily avoid such taxes, why have they spent so much money on lobbyists to stop it? Why has Rupert Murdoch convinced you dumb sheep that she's Satan?
Because she'll raise their taxes. And they're greedy and they hate that.
Dumb Nazi Republican assholes on the DL strike again.
|by Anonymous||reply 137||September 14, 2021 10:42 PM|
She brought her boyfriend Riley Roberts as her date, and boasted online about how she was 'breaking the fourth wall' as a 'working class woman' by making the event more accessible
She claims she was 'invited' but she is refusing to say who paid for her ticket or if it was given to her for free
AOC was photographed leaving the event with Aurora James, the designer of her dress, and James' partner Benjamin Bronfman, the heir to Seagram's Company Ltd. and son of former Warner Bros CEO Edgar Bronfman Jr. AOC's reps won't say who invited her, nor will representatives for Mayor Bill de Blasio - who attended the event with his wife and his son.
She boasted to the magazine: 'The Met Gala is seen as elite and inaccessible...As a working class woman, [I] wanted to enjoy the event but also break the fourth wall and challenge the industry,' she proudly told Vogue at the event.
She claims to be 100% 'grassroots' and a girl 'from the Bronx' despite growing up in Westchester County
|by Anonymous||reply 138||September 14, 2021 11:04 PM|
[quote]As a working class woman, [I] wanted to enjoy the event but also break the fourth wall and challenge the industry,'
You can't have it both ways, idiot.
|by Anonymous||reply 139||September 14, 2021 11:15 PM|
What I don’t like about her is that she seems disingenuous. She talks about the rich as if she isn’t privileged. Wearing a couture dress to a party full of pretentious rich people seems vapid. It is like Larry Elder always bashing Newsom for being wealthy when his buddy Trump was also born into privilege. Not to mention Elder wants minimum wage to be ZERO. Basically whatever the employer think is fair. That is sweatshop labor!
|by Anonymous||reply 140||September 14, 2021 11:15 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 141||September 15, 2021 12:05 AM|
I don't think AOC knows what the fourth wall means...
|by Anonymous||reply 142||September 15, 2021 1:48 AM|
[quote] OC was photographed leaving the event with Aurora James, the designer of her dress, and James' partner Benjamin Bronfman, the heir to Seagram's Company Ltd. and son of former Warner Bros CEO Edgar Bronfman Jr.
So she couldn't find a designer in all of NYC or even her own Congressional District that hadn't made it yet or wasn't affiliated with the obscenely wealthy to give them a boost?
Where do you think her invite came from - Benjamin Bronfman's pocketbook.
|by Anonymous||reply 143||September 15, 2021 2:02 AM|
She's got balls
|by Anonymous||reply 144||September 15, 2021 2:05 AM|
“Activists don’t want to dismantle the systems of economic exploitation... they just want a better seat at the table of tyranny.”
-Nicole Mossbacher (The White Lotus)
|by Anonymous||reply 145||September 15, 2021 2:09 AM|
AOC slapped with ethics complaint for accepting free Met Gala tickets
A conservative group is asking the Office of Congressional Ethics to launch an investigation of Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez for accepting free tickets to Monday’s Met Gala, where she wore a custom gown that said “Tax the Rich.”
The self-declared socialist congresswoman drew broad social media scorn for partying at the elite $35,000-per-ticket event while presenting herself as their rabble-rousing foe.
Thomas Jones, founder of the American Accountability Foundation, wrote in an ethics complaint that he believes Ocasio-Cortez, who represents parts of the Bronx and Queens, broke House rules by accepting “an impermissible gift” of free tickets to attend the annual gala, which also was attended by fellow New York Democratic Rep. Carolyn Maloney.
Although House rules allow members to accept free tickets to charity events directly from event organizers, Jones argues that the Met Gala doesn’t count because the guest list is curated by a private company, media giant Condé Nast.
“[W]hile the individual’s invitations may bear the name of the Metropolitan Museum of Art, the Museum has ceded control over the invitations to a for-profit company, specifically Condé Nast, and to its Chief Content Officer, Anna Wintour,” Jones wrote.
He wrote that “the New York Times outlines that the Met does not have control over who is invited to the event, but rather the for-profit company, is in control of who gets invited.” The Times reported that “about 400 Chosen Ones” got to attend this year.
The gala is thrown ostensibly to raise money for the Metropolitan Museum of Art’s Costume Institute. It has become known as a celebration of opulence and exclusivity.
Jones, a former aide to Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), additionally claimed that Istagram, which is owned by Facebook, “was able to purchase access to Representative Ocasio-Cortez that is unavailable to average citizens” by sponsoring a table at the Gala.
The Office of Congressional Ethics can refer complaints to the House Ethics Committee for further review.
Jones did not mention in his complaint any possible issues around the custom gown worn by Ocasio-Cortez. The “Tax the Rich” outfit was created by designer Aurora James.
James showed up to the gala in a four-person group including Ocasio-Cortez and her boyfriend Riley Roberts. James brought her own plus-one, Benjamin Bronfman of the wealthy Lehman Brothers family, whose father, ex-Warner Music CEO Edgar Bronfman Jr., just bought a $12 million mansion in exclusive Palm Beach, Fla.
Ocasio-Cortez defended her participation.
“Proud to work with [James,] a sustainably focused, Black woman immigrant designer who went from starting her dream [company] at a flea market in Brooklyn to winning [a Council of Fashion Designers of America award] against all odds — and then work together to kick open the doors at the Met,” she wrote on Instagram. . The congresswoman added: “The time is now for childcare, healthcare, and climate action for all. Tax the Rich. And yes, BEFORE anybody starts wilding out – NYC elected officials are regularly invited to and attend the Met due to our responsibilities in overseeing our city’s cultural institutions that serve the public. I was one of several in attendance. Dress is borrowed.”
House ethics information available online says that members of Congress can borrow works of art — in this case the dress — so long as there’s a written agreement with the owner specifying that it’s not a gift and will be returned.
For gifts, House members can only accept $100 worth of items per year from a specific source.
The House Ethics Committee website says that for most charity events, the cost of the ticket for ethics purposes is not the same as the cost of the gift.
“The value of tickets to charity or political fundraisers is the value of the meal. The cost to the purchaser is not the ticket’s value,” the ethics committee says.
|by Anonymous||reply 146||September 15, 2021 3:56 AM|
“They want you to think that when we talk about rich, we’re talking about doctor or a lawyer instead of someone with hundreds of millions of dollars if not billions of dollars.”
|by Anonymous||reply 147||September 15, 2021 3:57 AM|
[quote] and then work together to kick open the doors at the Met,”
She seems to think no black designer's clothes have ever been worn to the Met.
The several years I was director of a government division we were periodically reminded about the conflict of interest rules and very low value of gifts we were permitted to accept. I had been wondering about the $35,000 ticket for AOC but didn't know enough about the applicable laws to comment..
|by Anonymous||reply 148||September 15, 2021 4:49 AM|
What horseshit, R146! Fresh outrage from the NY Post! 😂
|by Anonymous||reply 149||September 15, 2021 4:58 AM|
They want her there because she doesn't rock the boat too much and as per hew own words she's making the gala more accessible. She's nothing more than a handmaiden to the rich and famous.
|by Anonymous||reply 150||September 15, 2021 5:03 AM|
"She's nothing more than a handmaiden to the rich and famous."
That's overstating things a tad, R150.
|by Anonymous||reply 151||September 15, 2021 5:04 AM|
R147 what a disingenuous cunt. Yes The Met may belong to the people. But not the fucking Met Ball. If you want to be superficial and fabulous more power to you but own it. If you’re gonna be a crusader for the underdog it’s seriously bad optics to be part of the most superficial and elitist of cliques. Run with a different crowd if you want to ever be taken seriously.
|by Anonymous||reply 152||September 15, 2021 5:05 AM|
She could discover the cure for COVID, cancer, AIDS, and solve world hunger and you people would still hate her guts.
|by Anonymous||reply 153||September 15, 2021 5:45 AM|
Compared to Marjorie Taylor Greene, you cunts don't know who the cunt really is. Fuck outta here.
|by Anonymous||reply 154||September 15, 2021 5:54 AM|
R154 yes, she’s much worse and more dangerous to our country. That doesn’t mean I have to care at all for AOC.
|by Anonymous||reply 155||September 15, 2021 6:07 AM|
And no one cares if you care, R155. So doesn't that work perfectly?
|by Anonymous||reply 156||September 15, 2021 6:11 AM|
R156 what’s your point? People can have two thoughts at the same time, that seems to elude some people on here.
|by Anonymous||reply 157||September 15, 2021 6:21 AM|
No one said you "have to care" about her, R155. No one cares if you care or don't. That's my point.
|by Anonymous||reply 158||September 15, 2021 6:23 AM|
They need to dial back the ‘poor immigrant’ bullshit around Aurora James. Bitch, you’re from Toronto, you mom is an artist and your dad a Ghanaian elite, you wintered in Ocho Rios with your stepfather, and you’re fucking a fucking Bronfman.
|by Anonymous||reply 159||September 15, 2021 8:55 AM|
AOC is a fucking CUNT.
|by Anonymous||reply 160||September 15, 2021 9:52 AM|
I don't like AOC but you ain't going to get your message across sitting in your office.
|by Anonymous||reply 161||September 15, 2021 10:04 AM|
r10 didn't grow up in the Clinton era. Taxes on the rich helped the US to balance the budget for the first time. Jobs were plentiful and most of us were doing pretty good just working one job.
Compare that to today and I think you'd find that taxing the rich works wonders when the burden is eased on the lower classes. And guess what? The rich were STILL rich!
|by Anonymous||reply 162||September 15, 2021 10:17 AM|
This came off as a desperate attempt to fit in with the “cool” kids who may have viewed it as “edgy”, but ultimately it meant nothing to them. This crowd has money and wants to keep it.
AOC appeared as shallow as those in attendance.
|by Anonymous||reply 163||September 15, 2021 10:49 AM|
AOC is not the problem.
|by Anonymous||reply 164||September 15, 2021 11:55 AM|
Wow, the AOC haters are really Triggered. What a bunch of snowflakes.
|by Anonymous||reply 165||September 15, 2021 11:57 AM|
R165 you are the one that is triggered not the people that despise AOC.
|by Anonymous||reply 166||September 15, 2021 12:17 PM|
That makes no sense, R166. The people who despise her are the most triggered. They might not be on this thread, but she's definitely the Achilles heel to deplorables everywhere. I don't love her but I don't despise her because there's no reason to. Marjprie Taylor Greene she ain't--except to deplorables.
|by Anonymous||reply 167||September 15, 2021 12:23 PM|
R22, "smooch" does not have an "e."
|by Anonymous||reply 168||September 15, 2021 12:30 PM|
[quote]This came off as a desperate attempt to fit in with the “cool” kids who may have viewed it as “edgy”, but ultimately it meant nothing to them. This crowd has money and wants to keep it.
Exactly. Her 'message' was meaningless to the wealthy people she was swanning around with--they don't give a fuck about people with less. And for the non-wealthy watching, how can her message be taken seriously when those untaxed rich assholes are the same people she was air-kissing and taking selfies with all night? She's trying to have it both ways, but that doesn't really work here.
[quote]I don't love her but I don't despise her because there's no reason to.
She actively works against Democrats, especially in places where we can barely get elected, and has made it clear she despises the party and is only using it for its resources, just like Bernie. That's enough reason to hate her, and you don't have to be a deplorable to feel that way.
|by Anonymous||reply 169||September 15, 2021 12:39 PM|
Projecting you snowflake triggered attitude onto someone dose not make it so. I really dont spend my days being upset about the latest things AOC does. I am not part of her people she represents, she never crosses my mind. But I do find it fascinating how so many Repugs are triggered by her. You do in fact sound like delicate snowflakes. I wouldn't even know who she was without your triggered behavior.
|by Anonymous||reply 170||September 15, 2021 12:45 PM|
Yeah, I'd say a fair amount of the hate posts on this thread are triggered deplorables. Not all. She can be grating. But hate? Zzzzzzzzz.
|by Anonymous||reply 171||September 15, 2021 1:19 PM|
Ugly gown but lovely message!
At least she was creative and truly political.
|by Anonymous||reply 172||September 15, 2021 1:56 PM|
I am not an AOC hater R165. I think she made a poor decision wearing that gown and that it may come back to bite her in her graffitied ass.
Some may see it as a “let them eat cake” statement. Rubbing one’s clout into anyone’s face is rarely advisable.
|by Anonymous||reply 173||September 15, 2021 2:44 PM|
I don’t really care. Do you?
|by Anonymous||reply 174||September 15, 2021 2:45 PM|
AOC is the very definition of a 'champagne socialist'. She and her boyfriend paid $60,000 to attend an event reserved for filthy rich and mostly insufferably tacky celebrities.
|by Anonymous||reply 175||September 15, 2021 2:46 PM|
[quote]She claims to be 100% 'grassroots' and a girl 'from the Bronx'
Yeah. My Girl Be Real!
|by Anonymous||reply 176||September 15, 2021 3:24 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 177||September 15, 2021 3:35 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 178||September 15, 2021 3:52 PM|
Kanye was touched by her message so he’s sending the poors a coupon for $5 off his Yeezy Foam Runners.
|by Anonymous||reply 179||September 15, 2021 4:06 PM|
"AOC is the very definition of a 'champagne socialist'. She and her boyfriend paid $60,000 to attend an event reserved for filthy rich and mostly insufferably tacky celebrities. "
r175, what did they pay $60,000 for? Some of the people screeching above are saying she/they received their tickets for free (and that it was an impermissible gift for a Congressperson). Are you saying they paid to attend this event?
|by Anonymous||reply 180||September 15, 2021 4:14 PM|
As always, loudmouthed and tacky.
|by Anonymous||reply 181||September 15, 2021 4:16 PM|
The deplorables still desperately trying to make this a controversy just ensure that the phrase "tax the rich" keeps getting repeated loud and often.
Please proceed, idiots.
|by Anonymous||reply 182||September 15, 2021 4:18 PM|
R180 tickets are $30K each. You pay $275K to reserve a whole table. So either they paid for their tickets - and AOC's boyfriend is a freelance programmer and house husband - or somebody paid for them which is illegal for a member of Congress.
|by Anonymous||reply 183||September 15, 2021 4:44 PM|
I thought the designers or their houses bought tables and comped invited guests.
|by Anonymous||reply 184||September 15, 2021 4:50 PM|
R184 And dressed them.
|by Anonymous||reply 185||September 15, 2021 4:50 PM|
I think the comment on the dress is rather ironic as only the rich can support things like the Met these days. And forget average 'po folks' being invited. If someone average did manage to get in the door, Anna would have them locked in a service closet until it was over.
I hope the Costume department will come up with another way to raise funds. I'm tired of all the supposed 'influencers' using it as a night to enhance their glory and build their franchises.
|by Anonymous||reply 186||September 15, 2021 4:59 PM|
Yet this is what our former FLOTUS when visiting children detained in a Texas detention center. Fuck outta here, all you AOC-hating cunts.
|by Anonymous||reply 187||September 15, 2021 4:59 PM|
I find her irritating, but I'm not stupid enough to ever think she is the threat that the right-wing is and there's nothing more moronic than someone who witnesses the GOP's fascistic behavior, ignores it and acts like AOC or "the squad" are the bigger issue than an entire party whose leader is a stupid, lying, orange, fascist, corrupt clown willing to destroy this country using his very stupid, trashy followers because he's a sore loser.
|by Anonymous||reply 188||September 15, 2021 5:00 PM|
Exactly, R188, which is why all this AOC dragging is just so much bullshit.
|by Anonymous||reply 189||September 15, 2021 5:02 PM|
R188 of course she is not the threat to our country the way the other “team” is. But that doesn’t mean I have to approve of everything she does either - or even like her.
Like I can not care for AOC (which I don’t generally) and hate Trump and all his ilk even more. They’re not mutually exclusive.
|by Anonymous||reply 190||September 15, 2021 5:05 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 191||September 15, 2021 5:06 PM|
[quote] a sustainably focused, Black woman immigrant designer
What a mouthful.
|by Anonymous||reply 192||September 15, 2021 5:08 PM|
We've had 4 years of paying for Melania and Ivanka's, hair, makeup and expensive dresses as they walked around as though the world was their very own catwalk, so I'm really not triggered by OAC wearing a gown with an important message.
|by Anonymous||reply 193||September 15, 2021 5:09 PM|
I think she would have caught major shit if she showed up at an elite celebrity party wearing a normal dress. The "tax the rich" thing was her way of distracting from the fact that she went to the Met Gala at a time when people are going hungry.
|by Anonymous||reply 194||September 15, 2021 5:10 PM|
If I'm not mistaken, Republicans throw fundraisers where they charge hundreds or thousands of dollars a plate to attend. At least this was for a cultural institution. The only issue seems to be a charge of elitism, but even that is misguided. Showing up to a fundraiser full of rich celebrities is about as far from a real issue as one can get.
To quote Melanoma: I really don't care, do you? (Apparently dome of you do.)
|by Anonymous||reply 195||September 15, 2021 5:11 PM|
*some, not dome
|by Anonymous||reply 196||September 15, 2021 5:11 PM|
The dress has drawn mostly criticism from across the entire political spectrum, according to the NY Times. The vocal right, predictably, thinks she's being hypocritical in wearing this message to an event designed for elites; but so does the vocal left, which thinks she does not do much practically to enact her message and that she has no business being at the event.
I do agree that AOC seems to approach being a congresswoman as if it just means she's a highly visible influencer.
|by Anonymous||reply 197||September 15, 2021 5:15 PM|
R175 is a LONGTIME DEMOCRAT who is REALLY CONCERNED about the BAD OPTICS!!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 198||September 15, 2021 5:20 PM|
She had every right to attend a charity gala. It's the fact that she wore what she wore and that it was her. If she wore a monk's robe she would have gotten shit. Don't. Give. A. Fuck.
|by Anonymous||reply 199||September 15, 2021 5:22 PM|
It's interesting that here's another example of how the Dems get criticism because they have ethics and standards (a lot fall short of them, but they do have them) while Republicans skate for doing the exact same thing because everyone just assumes they're greedy, amoral pigs.
|by Anonymous||reply 200||September 15, 2021 5:24 PM|
Very fitting for AOC to wear such an ugly dress. That socialist/communist is ugly inside and out.
|by Anonymous||reply 201||September 15, 2021 5:27 PM|
Sure, sweetie R201.
By the way, it was as much a tongue-in-cheek critiique of her fellow attendees than it was any other rich bitch not in attendance.
|by Anonymous||reply 202||September 15, 2021 5:32 PM|
R201 is fighting off the hotties on Grindr because he's not at all a miserable old ugly cunt.
|by Anonymous||reply 203||September 15, 2021 5:47 PM|
R203 the people that attended the met gala aren't threatened by a bitch who will do anything to be there. They probably played her dust with her bullshit virtual signaling outfit. You think Rhianna cares about some bitch in a tax the rich outfit.
|by Anonymous||reply 204||September 15, 2021 5:51 PM|
That dress was not about making the attendees uncomfortable. In politics AOC is surrounded by rich fucks who don't care. She knows who her real audience is.
|by Anonymous||reply 205||September 15, 2021 5:56 PM|
^ Sorry, read the Twitter read thread at that link.
|by Anonymous||reply 206||September 15, 2021 5:56 PM|
R190, my point is that we do in fact have so-called moderates or center-left who act as though an AOC is the left version of a MTG - which is preposterous. And they so quickly say "This is why Trump won" or "This is why the GOP will win" - because they do in fact engage in hysterics and hyperbole when it comes to the left while the right is the actual violent and dangerous side.
I'm not saying you have to like her (Like I said, I find her irritating), but putting things into perspective is key. No matter your opinion of her, she is the better side. She is not the one to fear. The right-wing is destroying this country - and that is not hyperbole. It is obvious they do not believe in democracy.
|by Anonymous||reply 207||September 15, 2021 5:58 PM|
why would anyone despise her that wasn't a deplorable? She's pretty great. Love her.
|by Anonymous||reply 208||September 15, 2021 5:58 PM|
It's so weird. Either AOC is an ineffectual dilettante who is really just a rich bitch in poor person's drag or she's the second coming of Stalin, and her Green New Deal will paralyze the economy and her tax ideas will send the wealthy into John-Galt-esque self-imposed exile.
It really can't be both.
|by Anonymous||reply 209||September 15, 2021 6:18 PM|
She introduced the unemployment extension bill. They gave her a bone.
|by Anonymous||reply 210||September 15, 2021 6:21 PM|
In fact, R209, it's neither.
|by Anonymous||reply 211||September 15, 2021 6:33 PM|
Funny, that's 80% of what I read about her from the triggered snowflake Nazis on this thread. But sure.
|by Anonymous||reply 212||September 15, 2021 7:28 PM|
[quote]She introduced the unemployment extension bill. They gave her a bone.
Oh, so it's her fault restaurants can't get any staff because people would rather sit home on their asses and collect?
|by Anonymous||reply 213||September 15, 2021 8:11 PM|
Maybe it's the restaurant's fault that working for them is so fucking horrible and ill-paying that $200 a week is all it takes for them not to be able to hire someone?
|by Anonymous||reply 214||September 15, 2021 8:14 PM|
R132 Really. Like the rich give a shit what she says or puts on her party dress.
The poster should know better. The message is for her voters.
See? I may be having some fun hobnobbing with the very people whose accountants are busy hiding their money from me, but I haven't forgotten you little people! They'll really be scared when I turn around!
|by Anonymous||reply 215||September 15, 2021 8:27 PM|
Triggered, Triggered, Triggered! Hi, I am long time Democrat, or, uh I mean Deplorable. I post here all the time because I want to own the Dems but as an actual snowflake, when they respond I melt into a puddle of Santorum.
|by Anonymous||reply 216||September 15, 2021 8:48 PM|
Gosh R215 if the rich were really so unafraid of her or what she says or what she puts on her dress, why have the Murdoch empire spent three years making her into Satan? Why do the Rs have her picture on all the direct-mail pieces they send to panicky old rubes? Why has Fox spent years treating the Green New Deal as a suicide pact?
It must because they are secure and don't care.
|by Anonymous||reply 217||September 15, 2021 8:53 PM|
She paid some 50K to attend a shallow media event so she could be photographed lambasting the rich.
I really wish the democrats would primary these leftist phonies.
|by Anonymous||reply 218||September 15, 2021 9:04 PM|
She paid zero to attend the Gala. Someone tried to primary her just last year and it didn't work. The Repigs got someone to run against her and he got all the money in the world to do it (seriously, his ads were everywhere) and it didn't work.
She's popular. Her constituents (which include me) like her.
Her office has been doing enormous amounts of work to try and get government help to people affected by Hurricane Ida, a situation that throws her call for a Green New Deal into sharper relief.
But you'd much rather bitch about a woman with a big mouth who has the temerity to wear nice dresses. Fuck you.
|by Anonymous||reply 219||September 15, 2021 9:08 PM|
[quote]The "tax the rich" thing was her way of distracting from the fact that she went to the Met Gala at a time when people are going hungry.
She should have declined the invitation then. I don't think anyone among those going hungry went to bed that night with empty bellies but had sweet dreams nonetheless because AOC represented them.
|by Anonymous||reply 220||September 15, 2021 9:13 PM|
Joy Villa did it first. And better. Fuck this cunt.
|by Anonymous||reply 221||September 15, 2021 9:17 PM|
[quote]Her office has been doing enormous amounts of work
She's the least effective house member. It's all about self promotion for AlwaysOnCamera.
|by Anonymous||reply 222||September 15, 2021 9:17 PM|
Fashion is not for sissies, but obviously is for the disingenuous.
|by Anonymous||reply 223||September 15, 2021 9:18 PM|
AOC = Republican + Triggered = Snowflake
|by Anonymous||reply 224||September 15, 2021 9:23 PM|
Her supporters are like deplorables. Delusional of grandiose. Trump supporters will tell you that most of the country love Trump just her supporters will make you believe most new Yorkers give a shit about this bimbo. I live in NYC and most people aren't checking for her. She was able to win because most people in her district do not vote. She doesn't need a high percentage of votes to win. That is how low the expectation is in certain parts of NYC.
|by Anonymous||reply 225||September 15, 2021 9:47 PM|
[quote]Her supporters are like deplorables. Delusional of grandiose
Her haters are like deplorables. Delusional of grandiose SNOWFLAKES. There fixed it for you.
|by Anonymous||reply 226||September 15, 2021 9:48 PM|
R226. Someone is having a tantrum with the cap. The irony is lost on you since you type delusional.
|by Anonymous||reply 227||September 15, 2021 9:57 PM|
I would actually observe that members of the minority are less effective than members of the majority, R222.
So we know you're totally full of shit.
And as for R225. Well, it's just so funny that you know, just KNOW that she's widely hated despite knocking off one of the most powerful, centrist Dems in the city, galvanizing a rising cohort of younger left-wingers, scaring the pants off cunts like you, and being re-elected by a landslide for her second term.
Go back to the Post. Vote for Dov Hikind or some other fake Democrat. You have Eric Adams. Go slobber over him.
|by Anonymous||reply 228||September 15, 2021 9:57 PM|
I want to see her tax returns!
|by Anonymous||reply 229||September 15, 2021 10:07 PM|
[quote]If I'm not mistaken, Republicans throw fundraisers where they charge hundreds or thousands of dollars a plate to attend.
They do, but they don't pretend like it's a bad thing. AOC is not my favorite, I don't hate her by any means and I do think that she could be an effective legislator if she got out of her own way. Good politics and policy happens quietly and in inches. Those who come to DC looking to start a revolution usually don't last very long or they remain on the back bench for their entire career only getting bills about post office names passed.
|by Anonymous||reply 230||September 15, 2021 10:07 PM|
One has to "do" to learn, and at least she is trying.
|by Anonymous||reply 231||September 15, 2021 10:13 PM|
r208 I am not a deplorable and I can't stand AOC. I have said from the beginning that she was too immature for her job. She hasn't lived long enough or had enough life experience. She Still doesn't understand how gov't. works and she thinks she has all the answers and doesn't understand why everyone isn't doing it her way. She's also a show off.
|by Anonymous||reply 232||September 15, 2021 10:13 PM|
R232 = Get OFF MY LAWN!
|by Anonymous||reply 233||September 15, 2021 10:19 PM|
r233 nawww. I put up a fence so I wouldn't have to say that.
|by Anonymous||reply 234||September 15, 2021 10:21 PM|
OK Mr. Wilson.
|by Anonymous||reply 235||September 15, 2021 10:23 PM|
Build a treehouse.
|by Anonymous||reply 236||September 15, 2021 10:24 PM|
There's no way kum and Kylie are billionaires, just don't believe it. Most likely they're worth half of that but pimp moma kris is excellent at her job.
|by Anonymous||reply 237||September 15, 2021 10:50 PM|
[quote]I do think that she could be an effective legislator if she got out of her own way.
Obviously she has no interest in being and effective legislator. Look at people like Sharice Davids or Lauren Underwood, amazing young democratic members. The reason they get all the committee assignments is because they do the job they are supposed to do.
Dems need to get rid of the leftist saboteurs within their party.
|by Anonymous||reply 238||September 15, 2021 10:53 PM|
R161 That's right, you get it networking in the corridors and offices of Congress, going out to businesses and talking to corporate CEOs and telling them that more money in the middle and working classes' pockets means higher demand and more successful businesses, and that letting the middle class sink is killing the goose that lays the golden egg. Their support for these taxes in the end is in their own long term best interests.
|by Anonymous||reply 239||September 15, 2021 11:03 PM|
R228 you said "landslide" you mean winning 40 something percent the last time isn't a landslide. She won due to low expectations. You could run miss piggy in her district and she will also win in a landslide. Most of the people in her district did not even vote. She ran a against a a candidate almost no one has ever heard of that lacks charisma. Her mayoral candidate Maya Wiley lost so how popular is she again in NYC.
|by Anonymous||reply 240||September 15, 2021 11:11 PM|
I feel about AOC like I feel about Markle. They're enormous phonies and attention whores. AOC went to Kansas to primary Sharice Davids (a lesbian and a native American) for some fucking fatass white berniebro. Sharice won. Then she went to Chicago to push raving lunatic Nina Turner. She lost. AOC's rayon d'influence is NYC and the media.
She'll never be able to be more than a congressperson representing a distinctly leftwing district. The Squad is a joke.
|by Anonymous||reply 241||September 16, 2021 12:31 AM|
R240 should ask Joe Crowley and the well funded Republican who ran against her how ineffective she is. Or — even better! You run! If it’s so fucking easy. You do it.
|by Anonymous||reply 242||September 16, 2021 2:15 AM|
[quote] AOC's rayon d'influence is NYC
Not from where I’m sitting!
|by Anonymous||reply 243||September 16, 2021 11:36 AM|
AOC is a breath of fresh air. She's brilliant. She's photogenic, a huge advantage in a digital world. And she's got the support of the people who are the future of this country.
If a raft of malcontent caftan wearing geriatrics don't like her... that's okay. Their scorn won't make a bit of difference because they'll all be dead long before AOC finishes the job she came to do.
|by Anonymous||reply 244||September 16, 2021 1:24 PM|
Politics is about spectacle. Trump understood that very well, and he rode it to the Presidency over the head of the two party establishments. The left, however, is bad at telling stories, bad at narrative, and bad at setting the agenda. They might have the best arguments, but nobody listens. There are some honourable exceptions (I genuinely think Greta Thunberg is one of the most influential figures on the left there is today). AOC has probably gotten more people talking about taxing the rich than 1000 position papers from earnest and learned think tanks would. In this respect at least, she is much better at politics than Bernie.
I think she's great. I look forward to the emotional rollercoaster ride surely in store when backing her doomed run for President in 7 years or so.
|by Anonymous||reply 245||September 16, 2021 1:31 PM|
Most of the people that do not like her are not a bunch of geriatrics. There are young people like myself who cannot stand this bird.
|by Anonymous||reply 246||September 16, 2021 1:34 PM|
[quote]There are young people like myself who cannot stand this bird.
Sure. Some. A few. There are Log Cabin Republicans, too. But the numbers are not large.
|by Anonymous||reply 247||September 16, 2021 1:39 PM|
Without googling, what was Joe Crowley's greatest legislative accomplishment?
|by Anonymous||reply 248||September 16, 2021 1:50 PM|
Benjamin Bronfman is M.I.A's baby father. Rich as fuck and likes the "creative" women. I wonder if he doesn't hire an accountant in order to pay as little tax as possible, legally? I wonder if AOC had the ovaries to ask him or the designer of the dress, his present partner?
Like a lot of social media residents, AOC seems dim, beneath the ability to gain clout. I'm still reeling at the fact that Cif and Twitter have revealed Owen Jones to be an educated dunce. No wonder the tech heads limit screen time for their children for as long as possible.
AOC needs to work herself into not being one of the least effective members of Congress, instead of the vying for title of Queen Bronx Stuntette ( which belongs to J-Lo and will not be prised from her dead , cold hands. Not after having relationship after relationship with bum after bum, drug addict, drunkard after drug addict that she has in order to gain it, miraculously without having the whiff of suspicion of being a coke head herself to the naive).
|by Anonymous||reply 249||September 16, 2021 1:54 PM|
I love the thinking that if you don't like so and so then that must mean you are so and so. That's not the way life works. That's not the way people work. It's okay to have policy disagreements, even with people you share a political label with. And it's also okay not to like a person's style of politics.
|by Anonymous||reply 250||September 16, 2021 1:56 PM|
[quote]I love the thinking that if you don't like so and so then that must mean you are so and so. That's not the way life works.
That's apparently how Datalounge works. You can determine someone's age, race, relationship status, weight level, hygiene habits, and so more just by what they post.
|by Anonymous||reply 251||September 16, 2021 1:59 PM|
Hey, R251! It's important to accurately assess hygiene habits before diving under a Data Lounger's caftan.
|by Anonymous||reply 252||September 16, 2021 2:17 PM|
"Bird"? You're calling her a "Bird"? Are you posting from Liverpool in 1962?
|by Anonymous||reply 253||September 16, 2021 3:36 PM|
R253 it is an urban slang that young people use to describe a bimbo. Try to keep up boomer.
|by Anonymous||reply 254||September 16, 2021 3:53 PM|
I love how all the attendees are maskless and all the 'help' is masked. It reminds me of eunuchs!
|by Anonymous||reply 255||September 16, 2021 3:54 PM|
R255 no one besides you mentioned the mask less attendees. We all have to wear face mask outside and a bunch of rich people couldn't be bothered. Rules for peasants not for the rich.
|by Anonymous||reply 256||September 16, 2021 4:00 PM|
[quote] One has to "do" to learn, and at least she is trying.
"Trying" to attend a gala?!
|by Anonymous||reply 257||September 16, 2021 4:04 PM|
R242 Joe Crowley didn't live in the district, did jack shit for the district, never showed up in the district which is largely Puerto Rican. He was ripe for the picking and she took him down.
|by Anonymous||reply 258||September 16, 2021 4:12 PM|
Oh yes, R254 is so current in his slang usage by employing terms the Beatles thought was passe almost 60 years ago.
|by Anonymous||reply 259||September 16, 2021 4:25 PM|
This is why I cannot get with progressives.
While I agree with the sentiment and I think messaging are important, this action is too cutesy and, ultimately, distracting and just doesn’t counter the vitriol from the other side.
Metaphorically bringing a knife to a gun fight.
Literally playing dress up while they’re hosting a lynching.
|by Anonymous||reply 260||September 16, 2021 5:04 PM|
For what it's worth, AOC voted pretty much straight down the line with what Pelosi wanted. Her big idea - Medicare for All - has something like 70% support in polls.
That is, of course, crazy and kooky and left wing!
But currently, a small bloc of Dems are holding up a bill that would legalize caps on pharma prices, an idea that has something like 100% support.
They are, of course, moderates.
|by Anonymous||reply 261||September 16, 2021 10:59 PM|
[quote]Medicare for All - has something like 70% support in polls.
First of all, the polls say a lot of things. Polls don't always translate to votes.
And finally, if you want something like medicare for all to become a reality, it needs to be carried by a bipartisan coalition of moderates with no fear of being primaried. Someone like AOC is never going to get something like MFC passed.
|by Anonymous||reply 262||September 16, 2021 11:18 PM|
[quote]AOC has probably gotten more people talking about taxing the rich than 1000 position papers from earnest and learned think tanks would. In this respect at least, she is much better at politics than Bernie.
It's already popular position. It didn't take AOC's ass to make this a well known policy goal.
M4A does have 70% support until people learn that they'll lose their insurance or their taxes will increase then support falls into, I believe, the 30s.
|by Anonymous||reply 263||September 17, 2021 2:29 AM|
That only works, R263, if someone thinks that employers pay nothing for the health insurance they supply to their employers. There's the money to fund that tax increase you mentioned.
|by Anonymous||reply 264||September 17, 2021 2:45 AM|
It's so funny that the moderates always want shit like Medicare for All to be ABSOLUTELY PAID FOR but a trillion dollar, endless quagmire in Afghanistan can go on through inertia for years and then they wet themselves when someone has the temerity to stop it.
|by Anonymous||reply 265||September 17, 2021 3:46 AM|
I notice that the cunty moderate AOC-haters dont say a thing about their fellow moderates blocking pharma price controls (a thing that literally every other wealthy nation has). They'll lie and bleat that it'll hurt R&D but France and Germany aren't exactly hurting for drugs and their people aren't gouged.
|by Anonymous||reply 266||September 17, 2021 3:48 AM|
Yes, these so called moderates are killing the idea of negotiating lower drug prices because they all get money from big pharma. We need to stop calling them moderates and call them what they are, turn coat sell out opportunistic self involved politicians.
|by Anonymous||reply 267||September 17, 2021 3:56 AM|
She does seem to like the celebrity world.
I once said she'll either end up president or on Dancing with the Stars. (I kind of now think she'd prefer Dancing with the Stars.)
|by Anonymous||reply 268||September 17, 2021 4:30 AM|
Oh Please, Dancing with the starts is for Repugs like Sean Spicer one of Trumps guys.
|by Anonymous||reply 269||September 17, 2021 4:41 AM|
Actually I could see her as Roxie with Kamala as Velma for six weeks one summer in "Chicago"
(just six weeks, could keep their day jobs.)
Throw in Hillary as Mama Morton and Broadway is back!!!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 270||September 17, 2021 4:45 AM|
AOC is more a Big Brother type, much like datalounge former heartthrob George Galloway
|by Anonymous||reply 271||September 17, 2021 4:51 AM|
You all have to admit that it's a little sexist to assume that a woman who is pretty and looks good in dresses can't have a brain in her head.
|by Anonymous||reply 272||September 17, 2021 12:38 PM|
R272 you must be joking. So people pointing out the hypocrisy are sexists.
|by Anonymous||reply 273||September 17, 2021 3:26 PM|
No, it's the baseline assumption that a pretty young woman is, by definition, a ditz.
There are many legit ways to critique AOC, but she's not dumb. If she were some puffy lightweight, she wouldn't enrage all the 55+ crypto-racists on the DL.
|by Anonymous||reply 274||September 17, 2021 3:29 PM|
AOC's smart. But she's also a phony. Going to the Met Gala and pretending she's a flame-throwing socialist is the phoniest thing ever. The Brits have a term for actors (luvvies) who revel in being famous and living in opulent mansions and pretend to be Leon Trotsky: champagne socialists.
|by Anonymous||reply 275||September 17, 2021 4:52 PM|
Yes she should dress in rags and live in a lean-to next to a garbage dump. Then, very influential, good-faith observers like R275 would respect her!
|by Anonymous||reply 276||September 17, 2021 5:00 PM|
No one is saying she should dress in drag. She is a phony and fools like have fallen for her bullshit.
|by Anonymous||reply 277||September 17, 2021 7:37 PM|
AOC explains her attendance. She 𝒅𝒊𝒅 𝒊𝒕 𝒇𝒐𝒓 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒑𝒆𝒐𝒑𝒍𝒆 𝒐𝒇 𝑻𝒉𝒆 𝑩𝒓𝒐𝒏𝒙
|by Anonymous||reply 278||September 17, 2021 7:45 PM|
OMG are you Snowflakes still taking about this? Get a life Repugs.
|by Anonymous||reply 279||September 17, 2021 8:02 PM|
R278 eye roll. I am doing it for the people of Queens. She is so full of shit.
|by Anonymous||reply 280||September 17, 2021 8:33 PM|
[quote] During the eight years of the Eisenhower presidency, from 1953 to 1961, the top marginal rate was 91 percent. (It was 92 percent the year he came into office.
True. And yet MOST Americans do not understand what marginal tax rates are.
During the Eisenhower years, that top rate was only levied on that portion of your income OVER $1M.
That is about $4.4M dollars today.
No wonder rich people bought tax/free municipal bonds.
|by Anonymous||reply 281||September 17, 2021 8:47 PM|
Rich people just need to pay their fair share of taxes. Stop this bullshit that their wealth is not from what is considered "income" and therefore exempt. I don't care if it's from investments, dividend, inheritance or whatever other tax doge scheme. You still need to chip into society like the rest of us. And no, not on your terms as crumbs through charity. Fuck that, none of us regular people have that option. If that were the case I would not have my money go to endless wars or refunds to breeders who keep popping out Deplorable spawn in a world that is already over populated. If I have to pay 18% of my wealth I gained each year, so should you. Problem solved.
|by Anonymous||reply 282||September 17, 2021 9:08 PM|
Yes, R277 has a keen eye and is the most reliable judge of what is and isn't phony.
|by Anonymous||reply 283||September 17, 2021 9:54 PM|
I will give her this; like Princess Diana and Michelle Obama, she understands that the cameras will always follow her and amplify her message.
Now, if only she could legislate as effectively.
|by Anonymous||reply 284||September 17, 2021 10:10 PM|
R283 I am a better judge than you because you can't tell she is playing you for the simp you are.
|by Anonymous||reply 285||September 17, 2021 10:38 PM|
[quote] if only she could legislate as effectively.
I don’t know what this means.
|by Anonymous||reply 286||September 17, 2021 11:29 PM|
Trolls from NEWSMAX are posting here now? This explains the entire thread.
All unhinged Repugs. Why are Republicans such snowflakes?
|by Anonymous||reply 287||September 18, 2021 12:25 AM|
How dare an intelligent woman go out in public looking good?
Bernie Sanders showed us how it must be done.
|by Anonymous||reply 288||September 18, 2021 1:09 AM|
AOC's following is basically sexism. She's pretty. If she weren't, nobody would know who she is.
|by Anonymous||reply 289||September 18, 2021 1:56 AM|
The "legislate effectively" troll should take a Civics class.
|by Anonymous||reply 290||September 18, 2021 3:08 AM|
Oh no she's PLAYING ME!!! OH THE SHAME!!! IF ONLY I COULD SEE THROUGH HER!! LAURA INGRAHAM IS RIGHT!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 291||September 18, 2021 3:08 AM|
Will she primary Schumer?
I don't trust that guy. His bursting into tears when Trump instated that Muslim ban just seemed very attention seeking and not genuine.
Do NYers like him?
|by Anonymous||reply 292||September 18, 2021 4:15 AM|
R291 Girl who sees Nazi in everything
|by Anonymous||reply 293||September 18, 2021 6:02 AM|
Oh, for shame R291 will call me a Nazi
|by Anonymous||reply 294||September 18, 2021 6:03 AM|
R291 her mother sucked Nazi cock in hell
|by Anonymous||reply 295||September 18, 2021 6:03 AM|
R291 has no brains so call others names is her game for shame.
|by Anonymous||reply 296||September 18, 2021 6:04 AM|
R291 as AOC would say 'Grow up'
|by Anonymous||reply 297||September 18, 2021 6:23 AM|
R288 I haven't heard the intelligent words coming out of her mouth. It is untrue to call her intelligent.
|by Anonymous||reply 298||September 18, 2021 9:28 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 299||September 18, 2021 10:05 AM|
Because R298 you are too busy listing to your own unintelligent dribble. The person you hate is really that part of yourself you are afraid to deal with.
|by Anonymous||reply 300||September 18, 2021 1:00 PM|
Snow Flakes, throwing shade because they are triggered by a 29 your old woman.
|by Anonymous||reply 301||September 18, 2021 1:02 PM|
R300 what the hell are you talking about. You sound like those deplorables.
|by Anonymous||reply 302||September 18, 2021 1:44 PM|
AOC is fabulous. Most of the bitching about her can be chalked up to the fact that she is young, she is beautiful, she is Puerto Rican, and before her 30th birthday, she is already more successful than most people will ever be.
|by Anonymous||reply 303||September 18, 2021 1:46 PM|
Repigs = Nazis. Sorry I don't make the rules.
|by Anonymous||reply 304||September 18, 2021 1:47 PM|
R303 so admit young and attractive women can be vapid and devoid of self reflection.
|by Anonymous||reply 305||September 18, 2021 1:50 PM|
[quote]AOC is fabulous. Most of the bitching about her can be chalked up to the fact that she is young, she is beautiful, she is Puerto Rican, and before her 30th birthday, she is already more successful than most people will ever be.
I think that is so unfair and cheap way to try and shut down debate. All too often disagreements about policy end in these types of superficial comments.
AOC needs to decide if she wants to be an activist or a politician. The two play very different roles in the process and I am not even sure that she, herself, knows what she wants to be. Politicians, or at least the good ones, have to make pragmatic choices working within the system. And half of making good policy is making some friends (within your own party and across the aisle) who can help you along the way.
|by Anonymous||reply 306||September 18, 2021 3:14 PM|
Oh, please R306!
Did you not see ANY of Mitch McConnell's control of the federal judicial nomination and approval process. Did you miss the nomination of Merrick Garland? Did you miss McConnell's statement that Obama would be a one term president? And on and on.
Being "pragmatic" and making friends across the aisle is not necessarily a part of it. Leadership is also necessary. Good Cop / Bad Cop is also necessary. AOC is out front. She can be out front because she has a district that loves her for it. She would be in trouble if she did not speak out loudly and firmly. Others are working behind the scenes. Their districts require it.
|by Anonymous||reply 307||September 18, 2021 4:20 PM|
I'm not fan of Mitch McConnell, but McConnell didn't do anything that the rules of the Senate and the Constitution didn't allow him to do. You may not like that he blocked judges, but the Senate gave him that power. And he has a disciplined caucus, that backs him up.
AOC is in a boutique house district and is one of 435. She can make all the noise she wants, but until she makes some friends in the Democratic Leadership, she's not getting anything done. If she wants to just be the one starting all the conversations and going to Met Galas and posing for magazine covers, instead of getting really substantive legislation passed, then more power to her.
|by Anonymous||reply 308||September 18, 2021 4:32 PM|
Agreed. More power to her.
Your "pragmatic" politicians will sit forever with their eyes looking anywhere but up, so that they will not be noticed doing anything that someone, anyone, might find objectionable. Ergo, they are useless.
|by Anonymous||reply 309||September 18, 2021 4:36 PM|
Has AOC ever written an editorial? or does she prefer bumper stickers where her few vagrant thoughts can be best expressed?
|by Anonymous||reply 310||September 18, 2021 5:16 PM|
I love this woman. She has a fantastic sense of humor, and she knows how to make a statement.
I also appreciate how pretty she is, and knows how to keep it simple & classy with just her long black hair worn in a tasteful way, and her signature RED lipstick.
She doesn’t need tons of adornments or makeup or fake finger nails. She doesn’t need to dress like an escort for parties, with a huge fake butt, and she gets away with a literally absurd “statement” gown, because whether you’re in agreement or in opposition to her values, she’s smart AF & is FEARLESS.
She kisses no one’s ass.
If she were my daughter? I’d be beaming with pride as a result, and boasting that I somehow managed to do my small part in the contribution of raising my child to become an AMAZING young lady!
One in a million.
They truly & RARELY make them like her anymore.
Now, let me stop stanning and let’s TAX THE MOTHERFUCKING RICH!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 311||September 18, 2021 5:37 PM|
Bunny has weighed in.
|by Anonymous||reply 312||September 18, 2021 6:00 PM|
R311. Your comment must be a parody.
|by Anonymous||reply 313||September 18, 2021 6:52 PM|
AOC herself is close to parody
|by Anonymous||reply 314||September 18, 2021 7:00 PM|
AOC has a video response to you Snowflakes.
|by Anonymous||reply 315||September 18, 2021 7:37 PM|
[quote] I love this woman. She has a fantastic sense of humor, and she knows how to make a statement.
Yes she has a a sense of humor. Having a tax evader design a Met Gala tax the rich dress perfectly sums up her crowd.
|by Anonymous||reply 316||September 18, 2021 8:49 PM|
The cost of ticket was 30K which goes to the Museum's costume institute. AOC illegally parked her $35,000 Tesla while attending the event. She also owes 2K in taxes from 2020 for a failed business venture. If you have $28 to spare you can buy one of AOCs Tax the Rich Sweatshirts.
|by Anonymous||reply 317||September 18, 2021 9:27 PM|
"Despite perceptions, the highest-income strata of taxpayers are the only ones who pay a larger share of taxes than their share of income. In 2018, the top 1% of income earners made nearly 21% of all income but paid 40% of all federal income taxes. The top 10% earned 48% of the income and paid 71% of all federal income taxes.
On the other hand, in 2021, Americans making less than $75,000 are projected to have, on average, no tax liability after deductions and credits. The average income-tax rate for those making between $75,000 and $100,000 is expected to be 1.8%. More than 61% of Americans -- around 107 million households -- owed zero federal income taxes for the year 2020."
|by Anonymous||reply 318||September 18, 2021 9:48 PM|
If AOC and boyfriend received free tickets to the event, she's gonna be in trouble. If they actually paid $60K to hobnob with a bunch of rich celebrities, she's a hypocrite.
|by Anonymous||reply 319||September 18, 2021 9:57 PM|
[quote] The Brits have a term for actors (luvvies) who revel in being famous and living in opulent mansions and pretend to be Leon Trotsky: champagne socialists.
I've always preferred the term "Neiman-Marxists" for people like that.
|by Anonymous||reply 320||September 18, 2021 10:06 PM|
If AOC (you know, the radical novice dummy who does nothing) was on the Energy and Commerce Committee, shed have voted for drug price caps. But a CENTRIST DEALMAKER got her spot and now it’s not happening.
Sooooo fuck off.
|by Anonymous||reply 321||September 19, 2021 1:46 AM|
Regarding the corporate tax rates under the various Presidents:
You can make the headline tax rate whenever you want. However, when you go through corporate annual reports, they all pay about 20%.
This was true for the last 3 - 4 decades. You can make the headline tax rate 35%, but corporations lobby for loopholes and move income around the world.
|by Anonymous||reply 322||September 19, 2021 2:11 AM|
Fuck AOC Smollett who tried to make the Jan 6 Capitol riots all about her. She wasn't in the building under siege her office is in the Cannon House Office Building 10 minutes away and that building was not stormed by rioters. As many questioned her account she became emotional and revealed she was a sexual assault survivor which cause her to 'struggle with the idea of being believed' She has an even bigger problem of being taken seriously
|by Anonymous||reply 323||September 19, 2021 2:41 AM|
Been debunked, r323.
|by Anonymous||reply 324||September 19, 2021 2:57 AM|
R324 I still say Fuck AOC Smollett and repeat that she tried to make it about herself and how she feared for her life. When questioned she identified herself as a victim of sexual abuse something that curiously she never mentioned before. I never said she said she was in the actual Capitol Building.
|by Anonymous||reply 325||September 19, 2021 3:53 AM|
R303, AOC is over 30 - 31, nearly 32 actually.
|by Anonymous||reply 326||September 19, 2021 3:58 AM|
R303 Listening to her speak it's hard to believe she is 30 as she talks like a 12 year old with arrested development. What are her specific accomplishments i.e. how has she distinguished herself in office?
|by Anonymous||reply 327||September 19, 2021 4:02 AM|
Well, lookie here. The rich dress designer owes a bunch of back taxes and has tax warrants out in her name. She also owes property taxes on her $1.6 million Hollywood Hills home. AOC, tax the rich indeed, but start with your friends, hon.
|by Anonymous||reply 328||September 19, 2021 5:38 AM|
What about the designer who created a dress that said 'tax the rich' when they weren't paying their own taxes or rent apparently?
|by Anonymous||reply 329||September 19, 2021 5:47 AM|
When AOC is bleating on about taxing the rich and engaging in stupid stunts, but is endorsing someone who owes a shit ton in back taxes, that’s the very definition of hypocrisy.
|by Anonymous||reply 330||September 19, 2021 5:53 AM|
R319 she's a troubled hypocrite
|by Anonymous||reply 331||September 19, 2021 6:13 AM|
Whataboutism is when you bring up a completely different subject, R329. I believe hypocrisy is the word you’re looking for.
|by Anonymous||reply 332||September 19, 2021 7:34 AM|
Maybe even irony, too.
|by Anonymous||reply 333||September 19, 2021 11:48 AM|
I am a long time Long Cabin Republican and I am Triggered, Triggered, Triggered!
|by Anonymous||reply 334||September 19, 2021 12:02 PM|
That designer has now learned a valuable lesson, stay the fuck away from AOC. Her personal business is now all over the news because of one stupid dress.
|by Anonymous||reply 335||September 19, 2021 3:07 PM|
[quote] Despite perceptions, the highest-income strata of taxpayers are the only ones who pay a larger share of taxes than their share of income.
Nice try, Wall Street Journal-reading r318, but wealth and spending are more than just “income”. A 1 %-er sitting on $200 million worth of real estate and $500 million worth of Standard & Poor's can set their income @ $500 thou, and snack happily off interest and appreciation.
|by Anonymous||reply 336||September 19, 2021 3:52 PM|
How much did Trump pay in taxes? $600? Yeah. So many taxes.
|by Anonymous||reply 337||September 20, 2021 5:47 PM|
Maybe her dress should’ve read:
“Make the rich PAY their taxes and not use loopholes to avoid paying them.”
I’m guessing Chrissy Metz could pull that off.
|by Anonymous||reply 338||September 20, 2021 7:03 PM|
[quote] Nice try, Wall Street Journal-reading [R318], but wealth and spending are more than just “income”. A 1 %-er sitting on $200 million worth of real estate and $500 million worth of Standard & Poor's can set their income @ $500 thou, and snack happily off interest and appreciation.
So what? That's the way this country works. Uhhh, newflash: our country uses INCOME Taxes. And this data shows that the rich DO pay their fair share of income tax.
Wealth taxes have been tried in other countries and they 1) are almost impossible to implement and 2) don't really work.
And only a dumb, poor person would use "Wall St Journal reading" as an insult.
|by Anonymous||reply 339||September 20, 2021 10:06 PM|
[quote]newflash: our country uses INCOME Taxes. And this data shows that the rich DO pay their fair share of income tax.
No they do not pay their fair share. Your silly game of semantics wont work here. The INTENT of income tax is that everyone pays into a system that everyone benefits from. That includes roads, bridges, military, infrastructure, schools, fire departments and much much more. Your premise that someone who dose not make their money though traditional salary or income and therefore dose not have to pay a dime is complete bull shit. Everyone can see that.
|by Anonymous||reply 340||September 20, 2021 11:50 PM|
Right, R335. That poor woman. So what if she owes some money to the government, don't millions of other people as well? The way the media have dragged this young black woman out as some sort of deadbeat who won't pay any of her bills is disturbing and reeks of racism to me. The woman probably isn't even a part of the 1% or barely. AOC is talking about 1%ers when she says Tax the Rich.
|by Anonymous||reply 341||September 21, 2021 12:09 AM|
The Democratic nominee for the mayor of New York City said that he thought Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's now infamous Tax the Rich dress sent the wrong message to the city's business community, and rich residents who pay most of the city's tax.
'But when you talk about just blanketly saying tax [the] rich in this city, we may have 8.8 million people, but 𝟲𝟱,𝟬𝟬𝟬 𝐩𝐚𝐲 𝟓𝟏 𝐩𝐞𝐫𝐜𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐨𝐟 𝐨𝐮𝐫 𝐢𝐧𝐜𝐨𝐦𝐞 𝐭𝐚𝐱𝐞𝐬,' Adams continued. 'And if you say to those 65,000 to leave, then we're not going to have the firefighters, the teachers - all of those basic things.'
|by Anonymous||reply 342||September 21, 2021 4:05 AM|
R342, If he said that it's such a SHIT Republican talking point full of deception. The argument goes like this. Half the people are poors so without the rich paying taxes, there would be nothing. That's a complete deception. First of all, most people paying taxes are the middle class not the rich. The rich higher lawyers and tax accountant that effective get their amount owed to zero. Only a handful pay anything. The middle class cant afford to do that so they pay 90% of the taxes.
|by Anonymous||reply 343||September 21, 2021 4:56 AM|
R342 NYC has 8 million people of which 65,000 provide 51% of the states income tax revenue. We need the 1% to help pay for teachers, prison guards, police officers, fire fighters and the breakfast and lunch programs for students in the largest public school system in the US.
|by Anonymous||reply 344||September 21, 2021 6:26 AM|
R259 lipstickalley has been using it to refer to nicki minaj which confused me (27 yes old) must be a gen z thing.
|by Anonymous||reply 345||September 21, 2021 6:41 AM|
[quote] someone who dose not make
JFC you’re illiterate.
|by Anonymous||reply 346||September 21, 2021 10:48 AM|
Au contraire, JFK was highly educated!
|by Anonymous||reply 347||September 21, 2021 10:56 AM|
Lord, R344 thinks like a medieval serf. "We need the earls and dukes to live in unimaginable luxury otherwise how else would they provide me with this pigsty and a few crumbs of food???"
|by Anonymous||reply 348||September 21, 2021 11:09 AM|
What's funny is the designer of the dress doesn't pay her taxes and is in trouble for cheating her employees out of wages.
Of course AOC would love a designer like that. Say what gets me voted in, so I can do what I want.
|by Anonymous||reply 349||September 21, 2021 11:40 AM|
348 I know it ain't the homeless, illegal immigrants or inmates at Riker's Island buttering my bread. And so does Gov Cuomo who last summer (2020) was asking the wealthy to come back to the city.
|by Anonymous||reply 350||September 21, 2021 2:51 PM|
And you really think it's the 1% buttering your bread? Ok Renfield. Go lick a billionaire's ass. See how much good it does you.
|by Anonymous||reply 351||September 21, 2021 6:07 PM|
R351 yes, I do. In a single year they will pay 100 times more income tax than the average American will pay in a lifetime. It costs 88K a year to house an inmate on Rikers Island that's more than the average public school teacher makes. Go kiss an inmates ass!
|by Anonymous||reply 352||September 21, 2021 7:07 PM|
Billionaires are such selfless, giving souls! They help us fund mass incarceration! Bless them.
|by Anonymous||reply 353||September 21, 2021 7:34 PM|
R353 'They help us fund mass incarcerations'
Then that's true of all taxpayers isn't it?
|by Anonymous||reply 354||September 21, 2021 7:46 PM|
Maybe but thanks to the largesse of Billionaires (we don't deserve them!!!) we can incarcerate just so many MORE people!!! R352 and other serfs like him love Billionaires for that.
|by Anonymous||reply 355||September 21, 2021 7:48 PM|
Catch and release isn't working at least not in NYC and 65% of NYC public school children in the nations largest public school system get the benefit of free lunch and breakfast and after school programs.
|by Anonymous||reply 356||September 21, 2021 7:56 PM|
That's because billionaires have used their outsized power (and the love and devotion of brainless serfs like R356) to distort the economy of the US to impoverish everyone else so they can be richer.
Their super-low tax rate and the sustained assault on unions and worker protections has created a US where there are a whole lot of poor people (dependent on school lunch programs) and a very few unimaginable rich people.
It's disgusting and it needs to change. But it won't as long as there as dumb, deluded assholes like R352.
|by Anonymous||reply 357||September 21, 2021 9:00 PM|
R357 take your mother's cunt rag out of your mouth
|by Anonymous||reply 358||September 21, 2021 9:10 PM|
R357 types loser basement dweller who blames the rich for their lowly status
|by Anonymous||reply 359||September 21, 2021 9:11 PM|
In their quest to make life miserable for everyone, this just in:
|by Anonymous||reply 360||September 21, 2021 9:23 PM|
R357 uses Nazi in almost every one of their pointless, baseless posts. The sign of stupidity, limited thinking and a purview from mom's basement that reeks of crotch rot.
|by Anonymous||reply 361||September 21, 2021 9:24 PM|
R360 you were born miserable!
|by Anonymous||reply 362||September 21, 2021 9:25 PM|
R360 billionaires are just a convenient excuse for your miserable existence. If they didn't exist you'd still be miserable and you'd find some other group to blame.
|by Anonymous||reply 363||September 21, 2021 9:29 PM|
R363 masturbates to pics of Warren Buffet.
|by Anonymous||reply 364||September 22, 2021 10:18 AM|
R358's dad would drink the piss of Malcolm Forbes.
|by Anonymous||reply 365||September 22, 2021 10:19 AM|
R359 wants to be the cumsub for Zuckerberg but is too ugly and his hole is too loose.
|by Anonymous||reply 366||September 22, 2021 10:20 AM|
Mercifully, Boebert has offered to "sit down" with AOC and explain things to her.
(Pathetically, Boebert has no idea how patronizing she sounds in these clips).
|by Anonymous||reply 367||September 22, 2021 12:37 PM|
R344 The top 65,000 of NYC's residents only pay 51% of NYS's state income taxes? If true, these people are making out like bandits.
These include thousands and thousands of people whose income and spending rivals small countries'. They should be paying 75%.
|by Anonymous||reply 368||September 22, 2021 2:29 PM|
R368 Sounds like you don't have a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of or know anything about economics,
|by Anonymous||reply 369||September 22, 2021 3:47 PM|
R368 The price of the 2 tickets for the Met gala=60-70K which is about the average salary of a public school teacher and her $615.00 shoes are = to the monthly food budget of lower income families.
|by Anonymous||reply 370||September 22, 2021 5:12 PM|
Sounds like R369 thinks buying lottery tickets and voting Republican will make all her dreams come true one day.
You're not a hard-bitten realist. You're dumb.
|by Anonymous||reply 371||September 22, 2021 6:44 PM|
R371 My dreams have come true. I have a good job and have been happily employed for decades. And I rarely bother with lottery tickets. You sound unhappy
|by Anonymous||reply 372||September 22, 2021 7:23 PM|
R371 Who do you think will be paying for Biden's plan to double the current US contribution to help developing nations tackle the climate crisis and the trillion dollar infrastructure bill? Hint: We will!
|by Anonymous||reply 373||September 22, 2021 7:42 PM|
And your dream is to hate-post about Democrats on DataLounge!
|by Anonymous||reply 374||September 22, 2021 8:09 PM|
Biden is spending more time and $ flying Haitians back to Haiti than getting Americans out of Afghanistan. He must have forgotten them.
|by Anonymous||reply 375||September 22, 2021 9:31 PM|