What Will They Do To Us Given What We Have Done To Them?

Statement by Donald J. Trump, 45th President of the United States of America

09/08/21

Just watched as a massive crane took down the magnificent and very famous statue of “Robert E. Lee On His Horse” in Richmond, Virginia. It has long been recognized as a beautiful piece of bronze sculpture. To add insult to injury, those who support this “taking” now plan to cut it into three pieces, and throw this work of art into storage prior to its complete desecration.

Robert E. Lee is considered by many Generals to be the greatest strategist of them all. President Lincoln wanted him to command the North, in which case the war would have been over in one day. Robert E. Lee instead chose the other side because of his great love of Virginia, and except for Gettysburg, would have won the war. He should be remembered as perhaps the greatest unifying force after the war was over, ardent in his resolve to bring the North and South together through many means of reconciliation and imploring his soldiers to do their duty in becoming good citizens of this Country.

Our culture is being destroyed and our history and heritage, both good and bad, are being extinguished by the Radical Left, and we can’t let that happen! If only we had Robert E. Lee to command our troops in Afghanistan, that disaster would have ended in a complete and total victory many years ago. What an embarrassment we are suffering because we don’t have the genius of a Robert E. Lee!

RadDadPat RadDadPat

@XXXX: He only joined the Confederacy because Virginia did. He chose his state over his country and that's honorable. He did it because he could not see himself fighting his own state and his fellow virginians. He stayed up into the early hours of the morning pacing back and forth about whether or not to resign from the Union Army. It wasn't an easy decision. He had been in the Union Army for 32 years. If Virginia had stayed in the union, he would have stayed in the Army and would have most likely accepted the position offered to him as Commander of the Union Armies. No matter what the left does to try and destroy his likeness via taking down statues and what have you, he's undeniably one of the greatest generals this country has ever had. Right alongside George Washington, Douglas MacArthur, George S. Patton, ect.

lizards flyin

I have read 1000s of comments on this Lee controversy and hear the word traitor over and over. What happened to the word rebel? Being from up north, I consider Robert E.Lee , a rebel. I definitely don't believe he or the South were traitors, just rebels.

Hilary Miseroy

In 1790 when the 13 states had all ratified the Constitution many did so with a clause asserting the right of succession. So that being historical fact then how can Robert E. Lee be described as a traitor? From the perspective of the Confederates in Charleston, SC, war was declared when Major Anderson seized Fort Sumter in the dead of night. The South seceded, and the North didn't want to let them secede, so war broke out. The U.S. was not able to convict Jefferson Davis on treason because a secession was not illegal because states joined the U.S. voluntarily. All 50 states have their own governors, legislatures, police, national guard and capitols yet they are all part of a Federal USA. From 1790 to 1865 that was by choice. After 1865 it has been by threat of force. Do you think that is irrelevant? With todays growing division between red and blue states I find this very relevant.

In a letter to his wife Robert E Lee wrote:

[quote] In this enlightened age, there are few I believe, but what will acknowledge, that slavery as an institution, is a moral & political evil in any Country. It is useless to expatiate on its disadvantages. I think it however a greater evil to the white man than to the black race, & while my feelings are strongly enlisted in behalf of the latter, my sympathies are more strong for the former. The blacks are immeasurably better off here than in Africa, morally, socially & physically. The painful discipline they are undergoing, is necessary for their instruction as a race, & I hope will prepare & lead them to better things. How long their subjugation may be necessary is known & ordered by a wise Merciful Providence.

THE UNITED DAUGHTERS of the CONFEDERACY

Statement from the President General

The United Daughters of the Confederacy appreciates the feelings of citizens across the country currently being expressed concerning Confederate memorial statues and monuments that were erected by our members in decades past.

To some, these memorial statues and markers are viewed as divisive and thus unworthy of being allowed to remain in public places. To others, they simply represent a memorial to our forefathers who fought bravely during four years of war. These memorial statues and markers have been a part of the Southern landscape for decades.

We are grieved that certain hate groups have taken the Confederate flag and other symbols as their own. We are the descendants of Confederate soldiers, sailors, and patriots. Our members are the ones who have spent 126 years honoring their memory by various activities in the fields of education, history and charity, promoting patriotism and good citizenship. Our members are the ones who, like our statues, have stayed quietly in the background, never engaging in public controversy.

The United Daughters of the Confederacy totally denounces any individual or group that promotes racial divisiveness or white supremacy. And we call on these people to cease using Confederate symbols for their abhorrent and reprehensible purposes.

We are saddened that some people find anything connected with the Confederacy to be offensive. Our Confederate ancestors were and are Americans. We as an Organization do not sit in judgment of them nor do we impose the standards of the 19th century on Americans of the 21st century.

It is our sincere wish that our great nation and its citizens will continue to let its fellow Americans, the descendants of Confederate soldiers, honor the memory of their ancestors. Indeed, we urge all Americans to honor their ancestors’ contributions to our country as well. This diversity is what makes our nation stronger.

Join us in denouncing hate groups and affirming that Confederate memorial statues and monuments are part of our shared American history and should remain in place.

Mrs. Linda Edwards

President General, 2020-2022

[quote]The blacks are immeasurably better off here than in Africa, morally, socially & physically.

Hmm... physically, he might have a point. A lot of calories are burned when picking cotton from daybreak to sunset...

FITNESS! FITNESS! FITNESS!!!

Lee's father-in-law G. W. Parke Custis freed his slaves in his will. On taking on the role of administrator for the Parke Custis will, Lee used a provision to retain them in slavery to produce income for the estate to retire debt.

After the War, Lee told a congressional committee that blacks were "not disposed to work" and did not possess the intellectual capacity to vote and participate in politics. Lee also said to the committee that he hoped that Virginia could "get rid of them," referring to blacks. Lee was also urged to condemn the white-supremacy organization Ku Klux Klan, but opted to remain silent.

There are various historical and newspaper hearsay accounts of Lee personally whipping a slave, but they are not direct eyewitness accounts.

What REALLY "GETS" me and what I don't understand about these people who are defenders of "The Cause" is why they don't read the actual historical documents? The seceding States were QUITE clear about why they were leaving. They didn't bite their tongues! Basically, they all said;

"We want our slaves.

YOU said that we can't have them.

Thus, we're outta here!"

Louisiana even wrote that in English and in French so that there would be no misinterpretations and/or misunderstandings.

BUT... if THAT wasn't clear enough... you had the speech by Alexander Stephens (VP of the Confederacy) that proclaimed that slavery and white supremacy were not only the cause for secession, but also the “cornerstone” of the Confederate nation.

How much clearer can one get?

FYI;

HISTORIAN PORN!!!!

Rethinking Rufus: Sexual Violations of Enslaved Men (Gender and Slavery Ser., 2)--by Thomas A. Foster

Rethinking Rufus is the first book-length study of sexual violence against enslaved men. Scholars have extensively documented the widespread sexual exploitation and abuse suffered by enslaved women, with comparatively little attention paid to the stories of men. However, a careful reading of extant sources reveals that sexual assault of enslaved men also occurred systematically and in a wide variety of forms, including physical assault, sexual coercion, and other intimate violations.

To tell the story of men such as Rufus-who was coerced into a sexual union with an enslaved woman, Rose, whose resistance of this union is widely celebrated-historian Thomas A. Foster interrogates a range of sources on slavery: early American newspapers, court records, enslavers' journals, abolitionist literature, the testimony of formerly enslaved people collected in autobiographies and in interviews, and various forms of artistic representation. Foster's sustained examination of how black men were sexually violated by both white men and white women makes an important contribution to our understanding of masculinity, sexuality, the lived experience of enslaved men, and the general power dynamics fostered by the institution of slavery. Rethinking Rufus illuminates how the conditions of slavery gave rise to a variety of forms of sexual assault and exploitation that affected all members of the community.

FYI;

Within the Plantation Household--Black and White Women of the Old South: By Elizabeth Fox-Genovese

Documenting the difficult class relations between women slaveholders and slave women, this study shows how class and race as well as gender shaped women's experiences and determined their identities. Drawing upon massive research in diaries, letters, memoirs, and oral histories, the author argues that the lives of antebellum southern women, enslaved and free, differed fundamentally from those of northern women and that it is not possible to understand antebellum southern women by applying models derived from New England sources.

The Role of White Women in Slavery