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Addams Family Values (1993)

It's the rare sequel that holds up much better than the original. The obvious star is Joan Cusack, playing the most adorable Black Widow this side of Kathie Lee Gifford. In the words of director Barry Sonnenfeld, Joan has "A laugh that a man will love for two minutes, and then hate for the rest of his marriage to her."

The kids' B-plot at that idiot summer camp is also good fun, and it ends as all summer camps should: With violence.

I know it's a DL favorite, so pile on!

by Anonymousreply 64September 10, 2021 12:44 PM

Love it. Had it on VHS. My older sister broke it because she is a bitch and my mom refused to buy another one. She told me I needed to take better care of my stuff.

by Anonymousreply 1September 8, 2021 12:09 AM

I adore that movie! Seen it dozens of times, and it still amuses!

I totally identify with the bookish kid at the preppy summer camp. He's the "me" character.

by Anonymousreply 2September 8, 2021 12:10 AM

R1 So did you pull a Debbie and burn the house down?

by Anonymousreply 3September 8, 2021 12:10 AM

Christine Baranski and Peter MacNicol were great, too. And the other campers and their obnoxious parents.

by Anonymousreply 4September 8, 2021 12:11 AM

"Our Amanda's already skipped two grades. How about your boy?"

"Probation!"

by Anonymousreply 5September 8, 2021 12:13 AM

One of those films I love just as much as an adult as I did as a child. The previous film, while good, dragged a bit; the writers tried too hard to inject pathos into the Fester plot, and it didn't really work. This one is hilarious from start to finish. The only weak link for me is Pugsley - I think the writers just weren't sure what to do with him beyond making him Wednesday's sidekick.

The highlight is when Debbie is giving her Malibu Barbie monologue, and Morticia and Granny are sympathising with her. If only Debbie had just been upfront about being a homicidal maniac from the get-go, the whole family would have welcomed her with open arms.

by Anonymousreply 6September 8, 2021 12:15 AM

R6 and just before that, Debbie's afternoon of dancing at a sailor bar, blowing up her own house, and road-raging through suburbia in her Mercedes and shouting at all the slower drivers.

by Anonymousreply 7September 8, 2021 12:17 AM

Cusack is over the top fabulous

by Anonymousreply 8September 8, 2021 12:20 AM

"Miss Debbie!"

"Deborah!!"

by Anonymousreply 9September 8, 2021 12:28 AM

It works because there's jokes for kids and adults. I was little when it came out and there's so many layers that I catch now that I never did as a kid.

by Anonymousreply 10September 8, 2021 12:30 AM

I love Morticia's parting insult in Debby's trashy manse.

"You have gone too far. You have married Fester, you have destroyed his spirit, you have taken him from us. All that I could forgive. But, Debbie...Pastels?"

"GET OUT!"

by Anonymousreply 11September 8, 2021 12:31 AM

R11 - and shortly before that:

"You have enslaved him. You have placed Fester under some strange sexual spell. I respect that."

by Anonymousreply 12September 8, 2021 12:37 AM

Ma-LI-Bu Barbie!

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by Anonymousreply 13September 8, 2021 12:39 AM

[quote]Love it. Had it on VHS. My older sister broke it because she is a bitch and my mom refused to buy another one. She told me I needed to take better care of my stuff.

You should have told Mother it was her responsibility to "take care of" your awful sister.

by Anonymousreply 14September 8, 2021 1:12 AM

Anjelica Huston, Joan Cusack, Christopher Lloyd, and Raul Julia are having a blast and you can tell.

R14 No, I just rented it week after week at Blockbuster.

by Anonymousreply 15September 8, 2021 1:14 AM

Joan Cusack deserved an Oscar nom for Best Supporting Actress.

It truly is one of the rare sequels infinitely better than the original.

by Anonymousreply 16September 8, 2021 1:16 AM

If it was so successful, why didn't they make another sequel?

by Anonymousreply 17September 8, 2021 1:19 AM

R17, while it turned a profit and remains a cult classic, it only made half of what the original did. Besides, Raul Julia died the year after its release and the kids went through puberty (Christina Ricci started appearing in more adult roles only 3 years later).

by Anonymousreply 18September 8, 2021 1:29 AM

Pastels?

by Anonymousreply 19September 8, 2021 1:36 AM

Love this movie.

Was this the only movie where they gave Joan a chance to be sexy?

by Anonymousreply 20September 8, 2021 2:07 AM

R17, Raul Julia died shortly after the sequel. Also, they did make a late-90's installment with no-names and it completely bombed.

by Anonymousreply 21September 8, 2021 12:08 PM

R21 Wasn't Daryl Hannah in that one as Morticia? After she climbed that tree but before she married Jackson Browne?

by Anonymousreply 22September 8, 2021 2:38 PM

Great movie.

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by Anonymousreply 23September 8, 2021 2:43 PM

"I'll be the victim! I'll be the victim!"

"All your life."

It's a great line delivery from Christina.

It's definitely Joan Cusack's best performance and movie.

by Anonymousreply 24September 8, 2021 2:50 PM

"Gimme a kiss!"

"Gimme a Twenty!"

by Anonymousreply 25September 8, 2021 3:05 PM

[quote] Also, they did make a late-90's installment with no-names and it completely bombed.

The Addams Family Reunion. I remember watching part of it. Couldn't get through more than about fifteen minutes.

by Anonymousreply 26September 8, 2021 3:36 PM

I’ll have you arrested for trying to visit

by Anonymousreply 27September 8, 2021 3:51 PM

"Who are you? WHAT are you? Who moved the rock?!?!"

by Anonymousreply 28September 8, 2021 4:06 PM

"Oh no. He lives."

by Anonymousreply 29September 8, 2021 4:14 PM

"Is that your bathing suit?"

"Is that your overbite?"

by Anonymousreply 30September 8, 2021 4:44 PM

So many Debbie lines I still like to randomly drop into conversations:

"Give me a kiss..." "Give me a twenty..."

"Don't touch it till the scab falls off...."

"These are beautiful things! They're from catalogues!"

by Anonymousreply 31September 8, 2021 4:51 PM

The Thanksgiving play at camp is hysterical!

by Anonymousreply 32September 8, 2021 4:54 PM

"Sorry, Debbie. No Mercedes this year. We have to set an example!"

by Anonymousreply 33September 8, 2021 4:55 PM

"And so, the next night, the ghost returned to the haunted cabin. And he said to the campers, "None of you really believe in me, so I'll have to prove my power." And the next morning, when the campers woke up....all of their old noses had grown back."

by Anonymousreply 34September 8, 2021 6:18 PM

WEHT Joan Cusack? I never see her any more, and if any actor in the world should have a long career, it should be her.

But she hasn't done much in recent years except be the voice of Jessie in "Toy Story" stuff, which is a living, but she should have first pick of the scene-stealing mother or co-worker roles.

by Anonymousreply 35September 8, 2021 11:22 PM

Joan Cusack was magnificent. I love the movie. The one-liners are deadly.

by Anonymousreply 36September 8, 2021 11:32 PM

R25. I laughed so hard reading that line.

by Anonymousreply 37September 8, 2021 11:42 PM

r35 She was on "Shameless" for 44 episodes from 2011-2015.

by Anonymousreply 38September 9, 2021 2:05 AM

R35, instead Hollywood has given us her boring older sister lately.

by Anonymousreply 39September 9, 2021 1:07 PM

What the hell is that about, R39? Ann Cusack is a void of personality and charm, but she steadily works.

I will admit I've heard Joan can be kind of a bitch and is nothing like her quirky characters, whereas Ann might be nicer.

by Anonymousreply 40September 9, 2021 2:26 PM

R40 Ann probably works cheaper, and has a less annoying laugh.

by Anonymousreply 41September 9, 2021 2:55 PM

No mention of blink-and-you'll-miss-it scene with DL fave Cynthia Nixon. (Also Peter Graves and Tony Shalhoub.)

And Nathan Lane also has a small part.

by Anonymousreply 42September 9, 2021 4:45 PM

So Joan Cusack did TWO movies (the other is "In and Out") written by Paul Rudnick and which feature the Village People's "Macho Man" on the soundtrack.

by Anonymousreply 43September 9, 2021 4:46 PM

Set this!

by Anonymousreply 44September 9, 2021 4:49 PM

I don't see how she was (deservedly) nominated for an Oscar for In & Out, but not Addam's Family Values (which I really do think was a stronger performance)....although, "Fuck Barbra Streisand...and you!" still makes me laugh hysterically.

by Anonymousreply 45September 9, 2021 4:50 PM

Joan Cusack was Justice Strauss in the new Series of Unfortunate Events (2017-2019). She was in most episodes. She's also 60 years old has had a great career since 1980. She's enjoying her family.

Anjelica Huston is the one who barely works now. She doesn't have a family either.

by Anonymousreply 46September 9, 2021 5:23 PM

Don't you want to help me realize my vision?

by Anonymousreply 47September 9, 2021 5:24 PM

I’m not perky.

That’s for damn sure,

by Anonymousreply 48September 9, 2021 5:42 PM

I went to school with a kid whose parent's wouldn't let him watch The Addams Family of The Munsters because they were Devil worshippers.

by Anonymousreply 49September 9, 2021 6:17 PM

One of the funniest movies of the 90's. Definitely better than the original and I agree that Cusack deserved every award for that performance.

by Anonymousreply 50September 9, 2021 6:20 PM

[quote]I went to school with a kid whose parent's wouldn't let him watch The Addams Family of The Munsters because they were Devil worshippers.

School? Did they not teach the proper use of apostrophes there?

by Anonymousreply 51September 9, 2021 6:49 PM

It was funny except for the racist parts at camp. I hate woke culture and even I was offended. I guess it isn’t funny seeing white and rich racist kids and the racist camp counselors attacking all the brown kids/ weird kids with no one standing up for them.

by Anonymousreply 52September 9, 2021 8:15 PM

Joan carried this fucking movie , without her it really is nothing. Raul Julia and Angelica Huston were tedious and unfunny throughout.

by Anonymousreply 53September 9, 2021 8:16 PM

R52 the payoff of that is at the end though when the brown and fat kids take over the camp.

by Anonymousreply 54September 9, 2021 8:21 PM

But R52, isn't the whole point that the "misfit" kids get one over on the popular ones (and the counsellors) at the end?

by Anonymousreply 55September 9, 2021 8:27 PM

Yeah the kids who are different have a revolt in the end, so I'd say it's a positive, politically correct message in the end. Context is important.

by Anonymousreply 56September 9, 2021 9:59 PM

Wednesday has the type of personality that would never be defeated by anyone, let alone a bunch of clueless, rich, blonde, white kids. She is going to be in charge of everything for her entire life.

by Anonymousreply 57September 9, 2021 10:19 PM

R52 Unfortunately that was the reality back in the 90's for "different" kids.

by Anonymousreply 58September 9, 2021 10:24 PM

They wouldn’t have the balls for the “jamal” and “indian, enough said” jokes nowadays. They weren’t really needed, they were more offensive than funny and I wish Amanda’s racist parents got more than pies to the face.

by Anonymousreply 59September 9, 2021 10:27 PM

Why were they doing a Thanksgiving musical in summer, anyway?

by Anonymousreply 60September 9, 2021 10:59 PM

[quote]Joan carried this fucking movie , without her it really is nothing.

What am I--chopped liver?

by Anonymousreply 61September 9, 2021 11:06 PM

"Joan carried this fucking movie , without her it really is nothing."

Cusack wasn't in any of the marvelous summer camp scenes, those were carried by Christina Ricci, with help from some excellent adult and child supporting players. Except for Pugsley, who I agree was kind of thrown away, they didn't know what to do with him.

It was, IMHO, the best role Joan Cusack has ever played... up to now. Good actors can work as long as they can remember her lines, I still hope that one of these days, someone will give her a really stellar role as a smartass grandma or something.

by Anonymousreply 62September 9, 2021 11:28 PM

Can't believe anyone would say Julia and Huston were tedious in this film! They're perfect as Gomez and Morticia. Cusack is the star of the film, but the rest of the cast are great as well.

by Anonymousreply 63September 9, 2021 11:36 PM

"Don't... I... Deserve... Love? ...and jewelry?"

by Anonymousreply 64September 10, 2021 12:44 PM
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