9/11 Grief Porn

Yes. Yes, you are.

On the bright side, we won’t have to hear anything else until 50.

I watched the mini-series on Netflix and the mini-series from National Geographic. They're both wonderful.

OP why do you hate America?

[quote]OP why do you hate America?

Vaccine denial, ivermectin overdose, the Republic of Gilead...I mean Texas....

I understand the real and ever-present grief of people who lived through it or lost someone. What I resent is how many people are turning a profit by selling the world more 911 "remembrances" and producing new films that tell us nothing new.

I like the documentaries, but I will never watch any of the movies made about 9/11... that Nicolas Cage movie, United 93, the Tom Hanks movie, etc.

And I love musicals, but I have no interest in Come From Away.

[quote] What I resent is how many people are turning a profit by selling the world more 911 "remembrances" and producing new films that tell us nothing new.

This is exactly what I mean. I'm not so monstrous as to not understand why people are still affected. I have a BIG problem with the industry of memorial.

The actual memorial is wonderful--somber, thought provoking, and gives people the opportunity to reflect. None of these new documentaries and series are covering anything we don't know.

Yeah, Worst Porn Ever.

Don't even bother, you won't get off.

Get your flags!

See what I mean?

OP, blame the NY-centric media for the continuation of the grief porn. If the incident had happened in Omaha, there would be hardly a mention.

Well, this won't be the end of 9/11 grief porn. We're at the 20th anniversary. It will all come back for the 25th anniversary.

It's not the NY-centered media, R12. It's because no one ever thinks about Omaha and it has no opportunity to have its buildings become iconic to most Americans or the world. Nor does anything else about it. Face it: Bin Laden wanted to make a huge effect, and he chose the targets well.

The CNN special with sexy Victor Blackwell looks tasteful and not grief porny.

TBH, America has been through the ringer in last five years with trump, COVID, and declining race relations...9/11 is a distant memory for a lot of people now.

I somehow missed the part where OP was being forced to watch any of these projects. Is it part of the terms of your community service, OP?

"It's not the NY-centered media, [R12]. "

Where are all the "specials" coming from? Who is producing them? Who determines what special reports are broadcast? Where do they live and work? Why don't we have specials on the wreck in Pa or even The Pentagon.? It's the product of the NY-centered media. You don't like the grief porn? Take it to the people who are responsible.

This is a horrifying video. Interesting to see a foreign take on it and their explanation as to why American media didn't cover it.

I wonder if many people gathered on the roof. I've never seen photos from that. I guess no helicopter could get close enough. (or did they?)

When the the movies about 9/11 starting coming out I said I wouldn't watch any of them for at least 10 years. It has been 20 and I still haven't seen any. The National Geographic series was very compelling. I had tears welling up a few times, and some of the descriptions from eyewitnesses are a bit graphic. I don't recommend it to anyone who is always grasping at their pearls.

[quote]I somehow missed the part where OP was being forced to watch any of these projects. Is it part of the terms of your community service, OP?

People whine about the existence of comic book movies all the time.

[quote]When the the movies about 9/11 starting coming out I said I wouldn't watch any of them for at least 10 years. It has been 20 and I still haven't seen any.

Living through it was enough.

"People whine about the existence of comic book movies all the time."

Yes they do, OP. People whine about all sorts of things. Whining is nothing but annoying.

I was nearby, duly traumatized, mourned and am done reminiscing, or theorizing etc. Can’t forget soon enough.

I was downtown that day, a few blocks south. I left my work building just after one of the towers collapsed and walked through so much much soot that it look like it was midnight.

I’ve hated every anniversary. I don’t need an occasion to remember what happened. And it’s just upsetting to have it in my face. Sorry.

There were commercials last night for a new Long Island Medium 9/11 special where she talks to survivors. Yes, really.

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[quote]There were commercials last night for a new Long Island Medium 9/11 special where she talks to survivors. Yes, really.

That's VILE.

Are there any specials that JUST include news reports and footage from September 11, 2001?

I DON'T want to see retrospectives and memories.

2 things I absolutely cannot watch are 911 and Sandy Hook. I cry like a bitch still,even after all these years. Young people call the time before covid "before times" but i always think of 911 as the real before time. Nothing has been the same since.

There is a book and documentary about The Woman Who Wasn't There. Her name is Tanya Head and she managed to become the spokesperson for a group who survived the World Trade Centers collapse and found comfort in each other. She was never there but spun a fantastic tale of her rescue. It took years before a reported dug into her story and exposed her. Fascinating story.

They always show the jumpers but they never show the landings. A few made it onto the edgy sites and that shit was wild.

I'm always in a quandary whether I should immerse myself in Diana's Death Grief Porn or 9/11 Grief Porn.

Were people super blood-thirsty after 9/11, or just sad?

Of course, none of the current crop of series and films admit the truth; that the Saudis did it, and FOUR Bushes were complicit.

Bush Sr. met with bin Laden's father the day before, Jeb allowed the hired terrorists to safely learn piloting in Naples, Florida, and Marvin Bush ran the security companies for Dulles airport and the WTC a year before.

Shrub was... well, just the hood ornament. Okay, 3 Bushes.

R18 iirc the doors to the roof were locked.

I wasn't aware of this hotel until about a year ago. The focus is always on the twin towers or the Pentagon.

I saw somewhere this morning that COME FROM AWAY is about to release an item or 3 just in time for 9/11. Good thing it's "not a 9/11 musical but a 9/12 musical."

I'd die happy if I never had to hear about that show again.

R18- in the NG special, they interviewed a guy and showed footage of a guy in a helicopter who was trying to rescue people but there was no one on the roof.

Was Bai Ling on the roof?

R18: apparently the doors to the roof were locked so there was no one up there to rescue even if the helicopters had been able to get close enough.

I am voracious for the 9/11 documentary stuff every year. I don’t really know how to explain it, and it feels really perverse when I take a step back.

I was a sophomore in high school when the event actually happened. It’s really the only day in my life where I “remember where I was” the entire day. The thing I remember most of all was the wall-to-wall television coverage that lasted for a couple days. Every channel, even stuff like QVC and Nickelodeon, got preempted by major network news coverage. I remember wanting to look away but there was nothing else on TV to serve as a diversion. After a couple days, all the networks came to some sort of collective decision to stop airing the worst of it: plane hitting building, building falling, people jumping from the 90th floor, etc. We went from an unavoidable glut of that type of coverage to having none of it. It was replaced by tearjerker human interest coverage and, eventually, by rah-rah jingoism shit.

Nowadays it feels like the annual documentary stuff sort of serves as a check and confirmation that I was right at the time to feel as deeply moved and terrified by what was unfolding that week in 2001. It was the first and really still the only time that I feel my life and my relation to the world changed by something happening on the news.

Everyone on social media today: “9/11 is about… ME!!!”

[quote]I’ve hated every anniversary. I don’t need an occasion to remember what happened. And it’s just upsetting to have it in my face. Sorry.

Oh bitch please. Your being in New York City that day does not confer any special standing on you. Your feelings are no more important than those of someone who lived in Chicago that day. If you weren't hurt, and if your loved ones weren't hurt, no one cares about your opinion.