“I will NEVER forgive Brad Pitt for working with Harvey Weinstein!”, vows Angelina Jolie

I don't believe this one either

Well, In this instance, good for her. BUT she’s also the one lining up for Brad’s money which is partially from those Weinstein produced movies. So morality is fine and dandy, but when bills need to be paid, folks take that dirty money.

She is really trying to change public perception of Pitt. I don't think that's really cool at all. And considering they have kids. Jolie, one of the only big stars that is totally involved with their own PR, is really going for it. This is all deliberate

She's really ramping up her Pitt attacks these days. It's too late, Angie, you're old and bony except for the implants. You're also way too high maintenance.

Hollywood picks movie star Brad. He has a longer shelf life and he's not such a pain in the ass.

Everyone worked with Harvey and everyone hated Harvey for being such a cunt. Now Harvey's going to die in prison and it serves him right.

So she spread the word about Weinstein by informing… Jonny Lee Miller? And telling him to tell “the guys”?

So she protected men from Harvey Weinstein. LOL! So much for the sisterhood. She is 100% one of those women who cannot relate to other people unless they want to fuck her, so she has zero female friends who aren’t lesbians.

I adore IB, so fuck her opportunistic virtue signalling. She should also be shitting on Melanie Laurent and Diane Kruger for appearing in it, but wouldn't dare.

But hey, Jonny Lee Miller:

She is now parading around in front of the press for punishing Brad for having his lawyers protest the ruling re: the family law judge to the Supreme Court.

Expect a lot of caca to fall from this ghoul's mouth in the next week or so.

It IS weird, though. Considering how Brad KNEW about Harvey propositioning his ex, Gwyneth Paltrow. He even had to tell Swinestein to back off. I don’t care for Angie, but I don’t doubt this tidbit.

Venomous bag of bones.

I'll Brad wishes he never signed on to do "Mr. and Mrs. Smith" and let himself be taken in by Jolie's beauty. (Let's face it, the woman is gorgeous.) It's on him, of course, but I'll just bet he completely regrets every moment of his life spent with her. She sounds every bit as batshit crazy as Mia Farrow or Sean Young.

I'll BET Brad wishes...

What a crazy bitch. I don't feel too bad for Brad, because he's the one who decided to marry crazy, but he at least, has not at all been shit slinging her in the media. He could easily expose her history of violence and drug problems, for one thing, but doesn't.

I have a better understanding of why Jolie won the Oscar for "Girl, Interrupted". Turns out it wasn't much of a stretch to play a mentally unstable person.

If SHE knew about it because it happened to HER, why didn't SHE tell the world? Unlike AJ, neither Jonny Lee Miller nor Brad Pitt had an extremely well-known and connected parent in the biz.

She would have been OK, unlike people like Annabella Sciorra who had nobody in the biz to protect her.

Stop it, AJ. Just stop.

She really needs to move on from Brad. She is coming across as a hysterical loony.

Harvey raped and abused women but don't forget, Harvey abused absolutely fucking everyone. His constant screaming attacks on the people who worked at Miramax were legendary. His browbeating and bullying writers was legendary. He was grotesque and simply being in a meeting with him was an assault.

Hollywood tolerated and rewarded that behavior for many years from Harvey and from others too.

Angelina never spoke up about it other than, apparently, to tell Jonny Lee Miller to tell his pals.

What is behind this public, Defcon 1, behavior of hers?

I'll leave the bat-shit crazy diagnosis to others, and I'm not disputing it, but man, this is noteworthy for its, on her part, duration.

I have some knowledge of family law and courts, albeit not in California and certainly not at the level of wealth and fame that is present here, but still, most people want to settle this stuff for good.

This is pure speculation on my part but I wonder if its deep-seated anger, jealousy and embarrassment that, over the years, Pitt turned the tables on her.

She had the upper-hand with her Hollywood pedigree, being born into the industry because of who her father is, and knowing the industry because she grew-up in it.

And then here comes this hick outta Missouri and now his stardom has eclipsed hers. Part of it is sexism. Although he's aging, it's pretty clear he'll always will retain his status but now she's taking roles behind heavy make-up and CGI -The Eternals- to divert from her age.

This could be a Judith Krantz plot in one of her pulp novels, but, better yet, to my eyes as wide as saucers, it's for real.

let me qualify "better yet"- I should except the children from this. I mean the parents battle.

Doesn't Angelina have a bunny to boil somewhere?

Havent they been seperated for like a decade ? How long is she going to beat that dead horse?

r21 She will not be ignored!!!!

Am I enjoying her trying to destroy brad. Yes but I wish he would take her down too. Let both of them destroy each other. I'm loving watching his karma.

Jolie has a point. Pitt knew that Weinstein, in the '90s, harassed Paltrow (22 at the time).

Pitt was not a babe in the woods. He wanted this power couple thing with AJ. Wanted tons of children, wanted to be a jet setter, an international citizen or whatever. Did he get more than he bargained for? Yes.

Damn, I. LOVE Brad's gauzy linen shirt @R24.

It is insanely hard to find nice pure linen/ramie/good cotton clothing these days. Too much cheap mislabeled mystery fabrics masquerading as "linen" coming from China, even the name brands.

r23 I'm fucking loving this too. Brad has got to respond now.

What a cunt she is.

She WAS gorgeous for a brief moment. She's a bag of bones now and haggard looking.

Goop said when she told Pitt about Weinstein, he confronted him and threatened to beat the crap out of him.

Goop is a liar and fucked that whale 🐳 for an Oscar.

Not even Harvey wanted to fuck Jolie. BWHAHAHAHAAHHA.

I would bet my next paycheck that this all started because BP asked her for a separation or divorce. Her ego could not handle being dumped (or, "abandoned" in her BPD mind) and she went nuclear.

That was so moronic from a strategic standpoint. He probably was going to let her file first, anyway. Now she looks like a raving lunatic.

He's no boy scout, but her abused woman schtick is gross. I hope he starts leaking the real dirt... the opioid abuse, eating disorders, suicide attempts...every last bit.

Angelina and Meghan Markle remind me of each other.

Angelina's got more credibility to have actually stayed true to her words of never working with Harvey again than Brad who had fights with him but continued working together. Goop also went on to work with Harvey and win Oscar for Shakespeare in Love. Oprah, Meryl, JLaw they were all cozying up to him all the time until MeToo hit. But its always hilarious to see Fraus and Frau-adjacents lose their collective shit over this woman. And Jolie's not one to be easily intimidated, so they lose even more shit. It's funny actually.

Was Madonna the only person to obliterate Harvey to his face?

From Vulture: Putting Harvey Weinstein in His Place

After 200 hours of behind-the-scenes footage and 50 hours of concert footage got culled down, Miramax acquired the domestic theatrical rights. Harvey and Bob Weinstein’s company was still on the rise, having recently released Sex, Lies, and Videotape, The Grifters, and Paris Is Burning. Harvey wasn’t yet a top-line power broker, giving Madonna the upper hand. Internationally, the documentary was titled In Bed With Madonna in case the concept of “truth or dare?” didn’t translate abroad. In 2005, during Madonna’s Anglophilic phase, she called the amended name “really naff,” British slang for “tacky.”

Despite (or because of) Truth or Dare’s popularity, some critics insisted Madonna’s entire persona was a performance — an accusation she could never fully escape (sample headline: Truth or Dare: Madonna’s Big Lie).

Brown: We were at a test screening of the film. Harvey began to talk to her about his ideas for the film, and she just lays into him: “Listen, I put up the money for this movie. I don’t care what your point of view is. I never want to hear it. Who the hell are you to tell me what kind of film I should be doing? This is mine and Alek’s. Shut up and I don’t ever want to hear another one of your ideas about it.” He just crumpled.

Keshishian: I recall her saying at one point that he did try to kiss her, and she said she pushed him away. Even in public, Madonna was like, “Get away from me, you smell like a fucking ashtray.” In that respect, Madonna was already more powerful than Harvey.

Rosenberg: I think he was a little afraid of her, since he’s into having power over women. He understood he was not in a position to give her shit.

Madonna (New York Times, 2019): Harvey crossed lines and boundaries and was incredibly sexually flirtatious and forward with me when we were working together; he was married at the time, and I certainly wasn’t interested.

(When asked for comment, a representative for Weinstein provided the same statement previously issued to the media, saying, “This was what he said when confronted with it in 2019. Nothing has changed.”)

Keshishian: The biggest thing that Madonna tried to do was keep provoking him in his understanding and acceptance of gay men. She was doing this stuff when it was not popular, and she didn’t give a fuck.

Would she dare go there an excuse him of sexual abuse? There is precedent of him dating a 16 year old in his 20s.

r9 Is it normal to assume that because your girlfriends boss hit on her that he hits on every single female he's working with? Most men would assume it's because their girlfriend/wife is hot to their boss not that he's a predator who just wants to fuck any hole in the vicinity.

Goop bragged about being a "made man" due to Weinstein. She was fucking him willingly, trying to get a career.

r17 and let's not forget his connection to Mossad that he used in order to stalk and harass people. This story is not your regular overly aggressive asshole. This is about a true predator willing to go to great lengths to get what he wants or revenge for not getting what he wants.

One teeny problem with Jolie’s account is she was all over every premiere and promotion for Inglorious Basterds, to the point where she was acting as though it was her own film. So she didn’t mind the association all that much. I’m sure she wasn’t asked about that by her carefully selected interviewer.

Brad’s still a piece of shit though, they deserve each other.

Markle and Jolie are both borderlines.

Yes, AJ was definitely showing up (and looking fabulous, no joke) for the Inglorious Basterds premieres. IMO, she looked absolutely beautiful at the Cannes premiere (minimal eye makeup, red lip, nude dress).

This period was probably the peak of their Power Couple timeline.

Yes, and a Tarantino film is an EVENT (especially with that cast and especially at Cannes) and there was no way she was missing out on that.

Killing Them Softly was a much more muted release. She lost nothing by skipping that one.

Geminis that are bat shit crazy.

Angelina Jolie

Trump

Kanye

Azealia Banks

Boris Johnson

Russell Brand

I can believe she would have argued with him about it. But...what did she do? She has been outspoken from the time she appeared on red carpets with blood vials and made out with her brother, testified to Congress and so on. She couldn't mention Harvey Weinstein is a serial rapist? It takes a village—or a couple of Hollywood hills and a valley—to be knowingly complicit in a serial abuser's abuses.

I'm team Pitt.

Could we please leave this Marckle person out of this conversation FFS?

R15 From my understanding, even nepotism did not protect from the wrath of Harvey. He held control over these films, not their parents. I don’t think anyone was off limits for him.

R23 Anniston must be experiencing somewhat of a spiritual rebirth throughout all this. Karma indeed.

R34 I love Angie.

Pitt probably fucked his way too the top too, so he took the Harvey thing with a grain of salt.

She sounds deranged. Unless BP is a secret serial killer, this will hurt her more than him.

She's like Johnny Depp.

She hates her ex-spouse and she wants the world to side against him, but instead she just makes people respect her less by badmouthing him.

IMO, the obvious comparison is Mia Farrow.

Judging by Harvey Weinstein's ex-wife, Georgina Chapman, AJ was exactly the kind of woman (looks-wise) he'd be attracted to.

This nasty bitch will not stop as long as she thinks she can ruin Brad's reputation with the rest of the world. She's a massive cunt.

Bitch is borderline. But Brad is a home wrecker and this is his consequence.

R49, Jen is dancing around her giant house

R18, some people really will drag out divorces for as long as they possibly can. They are willing to destroy themselves as long as they can destroy the other person too.

How long until she claims Brad molested the kids?

Girls! Girls! They are all cunts.

I love Angie, but let’s be honest… Angie stays high 24/7. It’s what killed her body and her face.

He was high AF, too.

I hope he got sober and stayed sober and I sincerely hope Angie gets better. She’s an amazing woman, but not while she’s looped or nodding off. Find me a photo of her where her pupils aren’t fucked up, and I’ll humbly shut the fuck up.

And this dude? He”s obviously got nothing but time and apparently, some extra cash he's willing to burn.

He’s not gonna back down. Is this worth hr health?

Fuck. I dunno. She does, however. No one will win here.

They must know this, yes???

I appreciate both of them as performers, think Brad has done great work as a producer, don't particularly care about their personal lives or their kids, and I don't feel the need to take sides. I'm just saying, as someone who's represented mom in a messy divorce - Jolie 100% set up that DFS hotline call (to California! on a tarmac in Minnesota!!). She came in hard and ruthless. From a litigator's perspective, she'd played every card she's got and if it's still not working, um, maybe it's because it shouldn't?

Angie recently joined Instagram and already has a nice number of followers. She discusses education and books. And it's pretty obvious from the comments under her posts that she attracts a more "upscale" brand of fan than Anniston. Just saying, Friends is a simple show for simple people, as are most of Anniston's projects. I also think Angie knows Jen is a lez and she feels she rescued Brad from that fate. She says she wants all to move on. That needs to include her too, though. LMAO

Is she planning on boycotting everyone that Weinstein worked with? This is just so pathetic of her. Lots of people worked with Weinstein.

Did Weinstein ever buy Brad an oscar? What is Angelina really mad about here?

All these people knew about HW and, of course, did nothing because they didn't want to blow the whistle.

She's a complicit cunt and just using this to paint him in a bad light. Fuck her.

Fuck this psychotic bitch. Must be in the family genes.

R63 Hey Angelina 👋

Brad was( is?) a pot head , Angie is a hard core addict with borderline personality. Her kids secretly loathe her

[quote]I hope he got sober and stayed sober and I sincerely hope Angie gets better.

I read the entire Guardian interview. I have always liked both actors but haven't really stayed abreast of this feud/divorce proceedings - I didn't even follow their marriage much. But after reading that interview, I believe that Pitt was (is?) an alcoholic and he probably hit one of those kids before the plane incident. Apparently Maddox doesn't want anything to do with him but wants to testify, according to Angie.

As the daughter of an alcoholic who used to terrify and knock around his kids and his wife, I am inclined to side with Angie.

Angelina Jolie is orphan-hoarding homewrecking cunt!

I think that there was such an unfortunate acceptance of that Weinstein type behavior from even old school studio execs that it became a bit desensitized. I agree with the post that said it is strange that Brad stood up for Gwenyth but then went back to him for help. Maybe he felt there weren't really any other options in the biz. Jolie is definitely crazy for sure. She is a scorned women who would have been much smarter to avoid all this shit slinging career wise.

This might be true but now she’s throwing it at him like a brick.

Brad Pitt is being destroyed all over social media today and tonight. Of course, on here, where there's a huge contingent of whackadoodle Jolie haters, she is perceived as the enemy. But the reaction everywhere else is heavily siding with Jolie over this.

If Aniston hasn't smoked all of her brain cells away, she better start coming up with a new PR topic, because no one is going to give a shit about her pining over some abuser.

And please stop with the "jealous, scorned woman" crap. That post at R18 is the most sexist, Trumpian type of claptrap I've heard on here in ages. She's jealous because she has to wear makeup and he doesn't? What kind of misogynist are you?

R73 Hey, angry lesbian. Take a breath.

Angie is a liar liar, pants on fire. Brad was already investigated and cleared. The ugly Asian kid always looked like he would grow up to be a stinker, just like ma.

I don't know what went on in their relationship, I don't choose anyone's side and I don't give a fuck. Good parents who split up try their best to keep the kids in a state of balance and harmony. It's sad and strange when parents feud through international news media. Their kids are just the latest crop of children destroyed by their parents having everything they ever wanted and self-destructing because of it. Want not, waste your life.

r73. I pointed out in my post at r18 that it's sexism- as in an injustice- that Pitt, because he's a male, become more valued while she has to accept roles, because she's an aging female in Hollywood, that obscure her age.

Is context a challenge for you?

[quote] most sexist, Trumpian type of claptrap

forgot to add, in my almost years at the DL, I've been flamed more than charcoal briquets, but that one hurts.

Angie sticks to her ethics. I thought it was funny that when Goop told that story, the media was going on about what a hero Brad is for protecting Goop but ignored the fact that they both worked for Harvey afterwards.

Goop and Brad Pitt are horrible people.

almost 20 years

R68 Do you know this for fact? I am not believing the heroin rumors until a housekeeper or assistant speaks up. Brad would have leaked them by now if they were true. I believe she was an addict but Im having trouble thinking she still uses regularly.

[quote] (Let's face it, the woman is gorgeous.)

Was, R11. WAS.

Oprah supplied Weinstein with young girls but still somehow everyone thinks she’s wonderful.

Brad seemed Harvey out to produce for him despite knowing he had assaulted not only his ex Gwyneth but also his then wife Angelina.

Jolie is in the right in calling this out. Pitt goes on and on about telling off Weinstein and he gets kudos for it. What bullshit

Sometimes one has to lie down with reptiles. That's why she doesn't have any lasting work.

Do I really care what Angelina Jolie says? Nope.

Dearest Angie--STFU. The world will thank you.

She really wants to destroy brad

Angelina had her twins in France. It's very common for drug addicts to give birth in another country because in the US CPS can take your babies away if you show up in the maternity ward using drugs.

Remember that's exactly why Anna Nicole Smith gave birth in the Bahamas.

I don't actually know this for a fact, but it makes sense. They almost took my drug addict idiot niece's baby away when it was born. Kept it away from her the whole time and only sent the baby home because it was in the custody of her mom. This is the kind of scandal that no actress needs.

He's producing a film right now about the Weinstein exposé. I think he's going to gave to respond to this in some way.

R89 I did read something on the internet saying her twins were born affected from drugs but it was fleeting and I haven’t been able to find it since. Its been scrubbed.

It came out during Jamie King’s divorce that her sons were born addicted to drugs so this type of thing does happen.

She is a bad mom. The only thing that matters is her kids. And that include their reputation, bank accounts, family name. She is destroying her Brad Pitt's reputation- which bought her family everything it has (he has vastly out earned her) out of her own psychotic ego reasons.

Her children will never be able to pass a security clearance. They will never be able to serve in a public position based on these disclosures. Every partner they have will know private family secrets before their first date.

This is sick. And unnecessary. It won't help her. It just hurts him and the kids.

Brad is the bad parent. Little Zahara nearly choked to death while he was busy getting drunk. He told that story to the press himself thinking it makes him a relatable “Everyman” 🤮

Not good for Brad.

Hmmm. Both sound like unfit parents if any of these allegations are to be believed, no?

Why is this BS continuing? Just divide up whatever needs to be divided, and allow those children to spend time with BOTH parents.

They deserve a chance to have healthy relationships with both. And I agree with R92, in some aspects. He DOES have more money and he DID and surely continues to provide for them.

Don’t sully the family name to scorn the ex. Those kids are ALL Pitts, too. They should have an opportunity to be proud of their family name and yes, to also be proud of their father.

I have no doubt brad fucked up too, however, it’s time for these people to move on with their lives and stop bickering with each other.

Sheesh. Enough, already.

I always found the rumors that she continued to sleep with Billy Bob while with Brad to be completely credible.

I'm sure they had an open marriage.

Neither Angelina nor Johnny said anything about this to me

Fuck this skeletal cunt. Move on already ! Shes going to be talking about Brad for the next 20 years since nobody gives a fuck about anything else she has to say. I almost preferred her Saint Angelina schtick.

Now the witch finds a conscience!

Brad PItt raped me.

No one ever came forward to confirm she warned anyone about Weinstein. And she now names one whole person she says she warned--her ex who she is still close with.

She's all about self-aggrandizement. Doesn't mean it's true.

There is no way she allowed Brad to have sex with anyone else. Also didn’t an ex-nanny of theirs mention they were into sex play wearing diapers?

This story actually makes her look bad. She was a powerful star, she had an international platform, yet she said nothing publicly. Why? It makes her no better than Pitt.

Yawn 🥱 💤

Does Jonny Lee Miller make anyone else feel tingly? I bet he throws a mean fuck, whether top or bottom. He runs marathons and trains in Jiu-jitsu, AND he had a bit part in the DL favorite Keeping Up Appearances in one episode, according to Wikipedia. No wonder AJ still has her hooks in him!

I don't know why anyone bought that story about Brad protecting Goop. Like Heavy would give a shit about him. And SS wouldn't be powerful enough to protect her from him either.

R35 Courtney Love tried to warn women about Swinestein. People just dismissed her as a stupid junkie.

I am so happy that this POS of a a blob, Weinstein, is finally where he belongs.

If anyone deserves rotting in jail, it’s him.

Am I the only one who thinks Pitt deserves this? He knew she was trash and mental when he hooked up with her and when they paraded their kids for the paps for PR 24/7 he knew as well and was OK with it.

Angelina - so woke, so brave...........so self absorbed.

I don't believe that she was offered a part in The Aviator.

Considering we already know Pitt defended Goopie from Weinstein, this doesn't even remotely ring true. Angelina is terrible at this. You can absolutely tell she doesn't have a PR person because even a bad PR person would tell her this was a non-starter.

[quote]it's pretty obvious from the comments under her posts that she attracts a more "upscale" brand of fan than Anniston.

It's spelled "Aniston" and there's no reason to be comparing fanbases anyway, especially in the era of the so-called "dead internet" where there are more bots than humans.

[quote]I also think Angie knows Jen is a lez and she feels she rescued Brad from that fate.

I think you need more homophobia in your fangurling, honey.

People keep wondering why Pitt still worked with Weinstein but this was already addressed years ago when Jolie FIRST brought up the Weinstein thing. This is just a rehash of what she said back in 2017, which she would hope would hurt Pitt, but it didn't, so she's trying again. She always tries again.

As a response to Jolie's implications back in 2017, Pitt had a "source" do some "explaining" about why he worked with Weinstein, and the issue was seemingly settled. I'd say it was especially settled for his fellow Hollywood types who ALSO have plenty of "explaining" they would have to do with regards to working with Weinstein. They're not going to hold him to a standard they would be terrified of being held to themselves.

Jolie is going to hurt herself more. I can't imagine anyone but devoted fans are on her side at this point.

$$$ trumps over everything in the end.

Pitt has already answered Jolie's accusations back in 2017, and it doesn't matter if a bunch of people on Twitter hate him and want him dead today because they think this is a new revelation, the truth is it's not. They'll have forgotten all this (just like they've forgotten that we've been through all this back in 2017 already) by the time Pitt's expose on Weinstein is released.

Pitt is keeping his mouth shut, his head down, he's trying to fix himself and do things that improve the situation and/or make up for past mistakes. Jolie is just complaining repeatedly and trotting the kids out for pap shots.

R116 I suppose pap shots are better than pap smears.

Jolie can be an annoying shrew AND truthful about this, you know. She is famous for being a limousine jet-setting ethicist. Morally corrupt but that's her shtick. I'm sure she was bitchy and angry about Brad choosing cash over ethics, but also loved the truckloads of MONEY MONEY MONEY. They lived like billionaires or heads of state for awhile. JOLIE WANTED THAT, then.

As soon as she broke from Pitt, she should have followed her M.O. and landed a VERY VIP European statesman or some billionaire, decamped to Geneva, and become the true sanctimonious Saint Angelina Jolie of the world she felt was her due. Now she is aging out of clout and looks.

Not that I enjoyed Cate Blanchett playing Katharine Hepburn, but Jolie would have been worse. She wouldn't have considered any other role. Anyway, Nicole Kidman actually passed on it.

For what it's worth, Angelina Jolie did Playing By Heart, produced by Weinstein. Granted, she filmed that in 1998.

R118. She did want to relocate to London and fancied herself a MP. Don't you remember when she was palling around with gay Tory William Hague?

Brad and his lawyers stopped Jolie from moving to London or anywhere with her kids. That is one of the reasons she remains so enraged and continues to lash out at Pitt.

For the first time in her life she was not just told "no", she was court ordered to stay put.

Im surprised Jolie hasn't moved to the far right like her father. That Saint Angie was just for PR, she's a raging narcissistic basket case.

Maybe she has, but is smart enough to not advertise it and alienate most of Hollywood.

r121, Christ I forgot that business. Imagine she had been parachuted into a safe Tory seat, why she could be BoJo's right hand woman and maybe Home Secretary by now!

This fight better not affect my ability to buy Whispering Angel Rosé.

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Remember the Rudin / Pascal emails discussing Jolie and her acting abilities? That must have been humiliating.

I think deep down she is a punk girl who at her core loves drugs and probably would have wound up homeless or dead if not born to a Hollywood family. She probably is too much a contrarian for Hollywood tastes and just never really fit in. It doesn’t seem to be a secret that she has a distaste for it all, and it seems mutual. Hollywood is so fake and phony, so I give her credit for standing by her ethics and remaining on the fringe. I think that says a lot, whether she is crazy or not, as so many armchair DL psychiatrists insist. I remain fascinated by her, more than any other Meryl or J Law or Aniston. I am no fan of her acting but the woman is fascinating, I will give her that. She also is a once-a-generation beauty.

I don't find this uneducated try hard fascinating in the least bit.

Angie would be fascinating if she had any talent or sense of humor or redeeming qualities. The punk thing was her early image and total horseshit - remember when she got photographed making out with her brother? She doesn't align with "Hollywood tastes" because she's a cunt, not because she's soooooo different.

[quote]Pitt has already answered Jolie's accusations back in 2017, and it doesn't matter if a bunch of people on Twitter hate him and want him dead today because they think this is a new revelation, the truth is it's not. They'll have forgotten all this (just like they've forgotten that we've been through all this back in 2017 already) by the time Pitt's expose on Weinstein is released.

If anything Pitt being involved with this "expose" will only call him out for the apparent POS he really is. And it will call into question whether he's doing this for the victims sake, or as PR image rehab.

You can slander her all you want, but if he chose to work with him all these years, that's on him to answer, and no one else.

I am not a fan of Brad or Angie but the Guardian article is very interesting.

Angie might be unhinged but she is very articulate and intelligent. Manipulative, of course. I do believe that she thinks about life in a global way and makes some excellent points regarding the rights of children. She seems like she knows her shit unlike Cate Blanchett who speaks in hyperbole and big words...Cate is desperate to be seen as an intellectual.

Twenty years ago, Angelina started to work with refugees and other celebrities followed her lead.

Angelina went public & spoke openly about her mastectomy -- that in itself could have saved at least one woman's life. Good for her.

Brad seems like a complete idiot -- handsome but no charm, nothing of interest. I thought that Jen A. had said that Brad was missing an emotional chip (or something like that) when the Angie/Brad at home photo spread came out soon after the affair.

Brad and Angie leveraged their fame/brand for tons of attention and $. Angie is going to use Instagram to her advantage and will try to rehabilitate her image. Will we ever know what went down between these two?

I'm not slandering her, so dial back the faux legal talk, r131.

Brad didn't work with Weinstein "for all these years," he worked with him on Basterds, and on True Romance back before he knew Weinstein had messed with Paltrow.

Angelina is super smart! She never accuses Brad of anything that he can sue her for libel over - she NODS over her "feelings" over the safety of the situation. She is beautiful and smart. BUT her ego and irrationality are losing her this battle. And that's a shame.

That's why I'm not on her side- she's not playing well. And Brad is. I think she's smarter, but she's making stupid, ego-driven sloppy mistakes based on anger.

Angie is very smart.

For the rest of her life, this bitch will be dedicated to anti-Brad rhetoric. She can’t give an interview or make a comment without bringing Brad into it. I’ll never watch another thing she does.

[Quote] Weinstein had messed with Paltrow.

Oh is that what we're calling it?

Team brad

R138 - Ditto

I don’t know any of these people, however, I agree that she’s super intelligent, and I also admire her for not going for Hollywood’s groveling bullshit. Why should she?

That being said, I don’t believe Pitt’s the idiot his PR makes him out to be, with his full blessing, undoubtedly. Smart women cannot handle being with a dumbfuck, even if that dumbfuck happens to be Brad Pitt. They obviously had enough in common to plow through six kids together. He’s not an asshole for falling for her. And she’s probably not the vile bitch everyone makes her out to be. But things fall apart after 5 to 7 years. You have to understand this in order to stay married. Almost every single marriage I’ve seen go on over 20 years, the couples ALL had MAJOR problems, anywhere from cheating, babies from mistresses, breakups, divorce, remarrying, to finally making a decision: “Do I wanna spend the rest of my life with this man/woman? Why the fuck would I choose to stay in this?”

If you answer NO, then most people break up amicably, while uttering venom through their clenched teeth, because unless your spouse is abusing or molesting the children, you break up AMICABLY for the children.

If you answer: YES, then understand that things will NEVER be as they were when you were both fucking like rabbits and were madly in love with one another. That’s never EVER coming back. But from what I understand, what comes after that, is REAL love, because it’s gotta be real love, to forgive, and remain married.

👆🏽This👆🏽is what couples mean, when they say they married their best friend.

I honestly do not understand why these two remain insistent upon tearing each other down. I haven’t a clue who in this mess takes action, or which of the two then reacts to the other’s actions. All I know that once you share children together? This public war is absolutely inappropriate and NOT beneficial for the kids, NO MATTER WHY OR HOW YOU CONVINCED YOURSELVES THAT WHAT YOU ARE ENGAGING IN IS FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE CHILDREN.

Please let me assure you, it’s a game changer for those children, and NOT in a good way. My mother alienated my father from me,for many years. I’m so grateful that I had the opportunity to grow up, and see my dad in a different light, and did so many years before he died of alcoholism.

My father fucked up BAD and he was NOT perfect. But you wanna know something? That man made sure we ALWAYS had food on the table, nice clothes in the closet for me to wear, paid for annual vacations, took me Broadway plays, paid for years of ballet lessons, private school for junior high, summer camp, ice skating lessons, and top notch health insurance until I was 21.

I genuinely appreciate everything he worked so hard to give us, and I am so thankful he was my father and am forever grateful for the financial stability he provided for my mom and myself, as well as providing for his second wife and my little brother.

Do I believe Brad fucked up big time with Maddox? Why yes, I do. But if he sincerely has attempted to make amends and fix things with his son, then he deserves a second chance to be an involved and emotionally present father.

Kids eventually grow up and see things for what they actually were, despite any attempts to trash talk either parent by the ex. They will more often than not, seek a relationship with their father or mother.

Why prevent that?

Let parents make amends and try to be better fathers or mothers, whenever possible.

It’s a REALLY BIG deal, and it matters much more than quarreling exes realize.

I will never forgive the vicious cunt for stealing Jennifer’s man. She should be publicly humiliated and turned out onto the streets like a common prostitute and let the people pelt her with manure.

Don’t confuse cunning and malicious for intelligence. Angie is a dangerous borderline who created gender identity disorder in her oldest daughter due to jealousy. Look at her eyes in op’s pic, extremely cold and calculating

If she was so angry, why didn't she leave him in 2009 when he worked with Weinstein?

She's really trying to make him the Woody to her Mia.

r61 Angie's drug is heroin.

Brad smokes weed.

You see the difference?

r81 Angie's heroin use is common knowledge just like Julia Roberts and her heroin addiction. Not just around Hollywood but in the tabloids as well, lots of blind items about it.

I don't know how old you are but long before she hooked up with Pitt her heroin use was discussed. Look at her during her early years, Gia, Girl Interrupted, The Bone Collector. She looks like a skeleton.

Is Rose McGowan her PR strategist?

Am I the only one who would totally fuck Weinstein, even without the professional motivation? He's basically the definition of. gross-hot

Angelina Jolie is a second rate Mia Farrow - Hollywood family, child collecting, saintly PR image, bitter vendetta against more well regarded (at the time in Mia's case) ex. Except Jolie lacks the talent and tolerability of Mia.

[quote]She probably is too much a contrarian for Hollywood tastes and just never really fit in. It doesn’t seem to be a secret that she has a distaste for it all, and it seems mutual. Hollywood is so fake and phony, so I give her credit for standing by her ethics and remaining on the fringe.

I see it differently. She remains on the fringe because she is incapable of making and keeping alliances. If she is not top dog then she won't play and she won't make friends with any other women because she's too competitive. In order to be friends with men she has to fuck them.

In order to do well in Hollywood you have to be good at being social and you have to be someone other people like being around. Angie can't pull that off.

[quote]Look at her eyes in op’s pic, extremely cold and calculating

Serial killer eyes.

R150, every niche industry - law and attendant small concentrations, tech, academia and the different disciplines therein - has a feedback loop and if you get a bad rep, you're toast. If you piss a few powerful people off, you're toast. And if you stop being an earner in the money making ones, you're toast.

I think Angie is burnt bread.

R125 Chateau Miraval was their rosé/vineyard but I had the same thought when the Bra and the ngelina were no longer(!)

I guess if you think Angelina is "super intelligent" , than this is more a reflection of your intelligence and who you associate with.

[quote]I will never forgive the vicious cunt for stealing Jennifer’s man

Oh please. Jennifer's a homewrecking whore herself. She did the same thing to Justin Theroux.

Fraus just hate Angelina because she's not average looking and "relatable" like Analston.

R154, intelligent for her milieu. Compared to say, Kate Hudson. But maybe not Mensa member, Sharon Stone.

Ah, so another way of saying she is not intelligent. Understood!

Oh, bullshit, R154. I’m a pretty intelligent person, according to my IQ test score, and I believe Angelina is smarter than most in her “milieu”.

The fact that she’s STILL an opiate addict, yet manages to be seen as the poor, suffering saint, is proof enough.

And yes, I realize that her father and her ex husband Pitt, have protected her for MANY years, too.

What Angelina lacks, is an ability to be part of the herd in order to survive in a RUTHLESS industry, ESPECIALLY fir women over 30. And she lacks common sense, because she’s fooling no one, by not addressing her long running opiate addiction, which is DEFINITELY an important factor in the disintegration of her marriage to Pitt. And I’m not giving Pitt a pass, as I’ve seen his pinned pupils in dozens of pap shots, as well. Difference is, brad managed to get off the opiates and replaced it with booze, while Angelina clung to her opiate depositories like her life depended on it.

She’s an active addict, and she’s selling herself short by continuing down this path. That’s a clear lack of common sense and pragmatism. I understand she claims to have some sort of “condition”, which to her, justifies her addiction to something that is robbing her of muscle mass, much needed weight, and her ability to see shit clearly, which is why she continues to wage war against Pitt.

That’s obviously the problem here. She’s not stupid. She’s just stubborn as fuck, and is stubborn as fuck because the dope makes her obstinate and intractable.

If she chose to manage her painful condition in alternative ways, not involving opiates and/or benzodiazepines, she’d be SOOO much better off.

I like her, and I wish her well.

I’m rooting for her, still.

R146 Im talking about active use. I know she used in the past. You can reread my comment to see I stated that. Does she still use actively is what I am asking. I do think if she were using, Brads team would have leaked it by now. Or, more plausibly, they were both using together so each is mum on the subject.

R158 You sound like you are in the know.

This is kind of rich coming from a woman who went after a MARRIED man.

She also went after Billy Bob Thornton while he was engaged to Laura Dern.

Plus she has actively tried to estrange his own children from Pitt.

Don't trust a word that comes out of her mouth when it comes to her home life.

She's a crazy bitch but I don't feel bad for Brad Pitt. He knew what he was getting into and is just a social climber. He should have seen Angie was crazy when she was frenching her weird brother in public and wearing bottles of blood around her neck. Also why is Jennifer Aniston still being brought up. She's an attention whore too and she clearly wasn't that in love with Brad either. She seemed to have married him for publicity.

Johnny Lee Miller worked with Weinstein multiple times. I remember Harvey pushing him when played Edmund Bertram in an adaption of Mansfield Park and that overhyped Miramax version of Dracula with Gerard Butler.

R150 Why should she conform if she doesn't want to? Its more admirable that she's remained in the fringe even though she literally grew up in Hollywood. She's never made the pretense of chasing acting awards or cozying up with the industry at parties. Has consistently commanded some of the highest incomes and has worked in projects in her own terms. That's far respectable than the Hollywood bitches that have fucked their way through, or are always desperate for awards with their Oscar-bait movies or try hard to act like they're relatable to average people.

Jolie is the ultimate femme fatale of the American pop culture psyche. She got the man that was the collective boyfriend of American fraus. "Brad Pitt" was the answer to every damn questions of "Who's the hottest man alive?, Who's the sexiest man alive? Who's your celeb crush?" etc. He was the sweet All-American boy you'd bring to meet your family and who'd never break your heart. The Housefraus that hate Jolie the most hate her because she broke that fantasy. They don't give a fuck about Jennifer Aniston. Their focus has always been on Angelina because if there's anything that intimidates fraus, its that woman that can "steal" their man from them. And it didn't help the matter that Angelina was intimidatingly beautiful in her prime.

After adopting Maddox, Angelina's image changed a lot. She's become quite reclusive and almost regal in her public conduct. And its funny albeit pathetic that those who shit on her now only have either her wild past or her aging looks to pick on because there's nothing outrageous about her anymore.

Is it established that AJ is bipolar? If not, she definitely is.

I kinda love Madonna for how she handled him regarding ToD. Say what you will about her, she was unafraid of everyone.

R164 - Maddox, go do your homework.

R164, WAS regal. This battle with Brad ruined her "cool" image. This revealed everything you wrote about her to be a thin veneer- she is as pathetic and petty as any of the hausfrauen you deride.

[quote]The Housefraus that hate Jolie the most hate her because she broke that fantasy. They don't give a fuck about Jennifer Aniston

I don't agree with that. I think a lot of fraus saw themselves in Aniston. Attractive but nonthreatening. Plus Friends was (and still is) a beloved show among them.

Jennifer Aniston grew up rich in New York and LA. Her dad is an actor. Which is why she has a career to begin with. Though the casting couch helped her a bit. She is good at saying the right things and she cultivated a down to earth girl next door image.

Angelina is just off the wall. She can't act normal or nonthreatening for the life of her. She's not good at being phony. She's outspoken and does whatever she wants. She's also an attention whore but seems to have a personality disorder and fear of abandonment. I don't think she faked humanitarianism. She likely really enjoys being a savior. Like many narcissists, she needs to rescue people all the time. She's a truly fascinating person. Not just a sex symbol but a complex person. Jennifer Aniston and Brad Pitt are so bland and vanilla in comparison.

[quote]This is kind of rich coming from a woman who went after a MARRIED man.

[quote]She also went after Billy Bob Thornton while he was engaged to Laura Dern.

Not R155, but here's another [italic]Oh, please![/italic] Laura Dern hooked up with Billy Bob while he was still married to his fourth wife. After he left her for Angelina, Laura hooked up with Ben Harper, who was still married to Joanna, his first wife. Laura got pregnant with Ben's child around the same time Joanna was carrying his child. Laura helped end his marriage and became wife #2.

This narrative about Jennifer and Laura being innocent, jilted victims is PR bullshit. Both are guilty of the same behavior as Angelina. But the frauen and the pearl clutchers refuse to acknowledge the hypocrisy.

R171 - what did we tell you Maddox? Go back to your room. We'll call you if we need you.

Poor thing always tries too hard.

This thread is such horseshit. It’s a bunch of sad peoples opinions and diatribes. There is no meat in this thread.

What are the facts? Where are we at in the divorce proceedings? What do we know to be true here vs some looney’s opinion?

She’s a crazy cunt.

I remember that one story about Dern calling Jolie and asking her to step away of Billy Bob while crying and when Dern finished her plea, Jolie answered "Are you done?". Once a bitch, always a bitch.

r176 How the hell would you or anyone know that?

R177 As I said, it´s a story, rumour seems more appropiate to you?? It has been going on for years in Hollywood, I am surprised you didn´t know about it.

I distinctly remember Jolie in one of her interviews said that she answered the phone when Laura Dern called BBT soon after they got married. I don't remember Jolie saying what words were exchanged however. Jolie made it sound like a perfectly friendly call. LOL!

R161/R166/R172: So now you use the pretentious royal we? You should feel right at home on Dlisted, pearl-clutching frau.

R176 Why didn't Dern just tell Thorton to not fuck other women?

Jennifer Aniston is a bigger attention whore than Angie. Angie does disappear for periods of time and she does charity work and projects. Jennifer Aniston always needs to be in the press and she exploits Friends (a show that ended over 15 years ago), her relationship with Brad (which ended 15 years ago) and being America's sweetheart despite being over 50. What charity work does Jen do? I don't buy that people are invested in her because she's a bland serviceable actress who struck gold with a sitcom. I completely understand the fascination with Angelina Jolie because she has that Ava Gardner style glamour to her and unconventional attitude. Megan Fox and Amber Heard seemed to have modeled themselves after Jolie.

R171, none of those excuses absolves her of HER behavior. No matter what they did to other women, they were still victims of Jolie's behavior.

You really believe that she didn't set her sights on Pitt the minute she got that gig in Mr and Mrs Smith. You are so naive.

R182 Aniston is heavily involved with Saint Jude's.

I'm not really a fan of Aniston, but I saw an interview with Marlo Thomas talking about how wonderful she is for it.

R164, you are hilarious. Are you the President of her Fan Club?

What do you mean she didn't sleep her way in Hollywood. She did what typical women do - she married a fucking big name director and then she lured the biggest star in Hollywood away from his wife. People forget that before Mr and Mrs Smith her career was seriously in B list territory, if that.

Her "fringe" consisted of coquettish oversexualized behavior for public consumption and shock value. How is that anything more than Kardashian type behavior? It was certainly not about film or her craft. She may have gotten involved in humanitarian work but that started with her film about that very topic - lots of actors do the very same thing. Granted she stuck with it but that may have been as much about her desire to be involved as it was about the need to reform her pretty damaged reputation in the industry. She has reaped enormous benefit and publicity for her "humanitarian" work so why wouldn't she keep it up. it's not exactly hard work.

Jolie is showing her true colors once again after filing for divorce. She was a whack job before she got with Pitt and she has regressed to her former self. I suspect Pitt was a stabilizing presence in her life. People can mock him for his blandness but that is what his children need - not her fringe. There is a reason the experts in their custody case - all of whom dealt extensively with the children - did not side with her.

R183: Oh, STOP. Stop trying to put words in my mouth. I never absolved Angelina of her behavior, so you can take a seat. Of course, she shouldn't have gone after a married man and Brad should've ended his marriage before entering into a new relationship. But the condemnation of her while pretending that Jennifer and Laura aren't guilty of the same behavior is hypocritical and delusional. People who don't cheat in Hollywood are in the minority. I doubt Angelina is the worst.

It's also further proof that the public is so invested in accepting PR fictional image over reality. Jennifer and Laura sell the girl-next-door image. They are assumed to be innocent, even when they aren't. For years, Angelina sold a bad girl image. It's assumed she is guilty of anything negative, even when she isn't. This is the modern-day equivalent of Marilyn Monroe: sexy image and therefore must be the biggest slut in town. Audrey Hepburn and Grace Kelly: both had aristocratic good-girl images and therefore, not sluts because they're "classy" (even though, like Marilyn, they also had affairs with married men). Hollywood — and the tabloid media that supports it — still fool people with the same old tricks. And you have the nerve to call me naive.

[quote] she married a fucking big name director

r185 Huh?

[quote] Am I the only one who thinks Pitt deserves this? He knew she was trash and mental when he hooked up with her and when they paraded their kids for the paps for PR 24/7 he knew as well and was OK with it.

See, this is why I think that was all her and granted he went along with her. I wonder what she was like during their time together if she didn't get her way. Pitt was never someone who did this kind of attention grabbing before her and it's clear he doesn't do it after her.

Like the kids' schooling, it took Pitt going to court to get his kids to go to normal school and I think he may have wanted a more stable life for them for a long time. She was fine keeping them isolated and under her control. Yes yes it seems he went along with her on some things but we really don't know how that went down behind closed doors. I always thought the plane "incident" - during which nothing untoward happened according to the FBI and Child Protective Services who interviewed everyone - was about a disagreement over parenting. Maybe she realized then that Pitt would no longer go along with her demands.

[quote] I never absolved Angelina of her behavior, so you can take a seat.

R171/R186, that's exactly what you were doing. LOL! And I am sitting, thank you very much.

Discussions of this subject should be relegated to the Tired Hall of Fame. The same with Woody and Mia. Let them rot there, where they belong.

She’s so tiresome and predictable.

Jolie is all sorts of crazy but Pitt has to be possibly the biggest fame whore ever to essentially sell his soul (to someone he well knew was totally unstable) to market themselves abs become the preeminent A list couple for a decade. And that goes for every women he ever dated or married (Aniston, Goop, etc) have you noticed? That’s clearly his MO.

I also can’t believe we’re accepting that we’re accepting that Goop/Harvey/Pitt story as true. I always just laughed at it.

God, I can't imagine taking teh side of either of them. They both seem just awful.

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OT, however I'd be remiss not to post again that one of Billy Bob Thornton's ex-wives said he has a huge penis.

R189: You are a delusional cunt and type like a sanctimonious frau. You'd fit in well at Celebitchy.

Your questionable reading comprehension conveniently ignores the fact that I wrote twice that it was hypocritical to condemn Angelina for bad behavior while giving others a pass. But why focus on the facts when you can make shit up and accuse others of writing things they never wrote, hmmm?

Point out to me where I said it was absolutely okay that Angelina cheated with a married man. I'm waiting, frau. . .

[quote] I also can’t believe we’re accepting that we’re accepting that Goop/Harvey/Pitt story as true. I always just laughed at it.

I believe it. It's Jolie's jumping on the bus story that is suspect. How does she forgive BBT and Jonny Lee Miller both of whom worked for Weinstein soon after the alleged incident?

God I want BB Thornton in me deeply.

[quote] I wrote twice that it was hypocritical to condemn Angelina for bad behavior while giving others a pass.

Both Aniston and Dern have been dragged her for their behavior. But this thread is about Jolie.

And, yes, you were trying to mitigate Jolie's behavior because you don't consider the other women "innocent" in other relationships - so they can't be victims. You are trying to sell the guilty victim trope, the victim who asked for it, the victim who deserved what she got. Apart from the fact that the behaviors by Aniston and Dern came after their man was "taken" by Jolie. Hmmm. So they get to use Jolie PTSD as their defense. LOL!

[quote]People forget that before Mr and Mrs Smith her career was seriously in B list territory, if that.

R185 You're typing out of your ass. She had already won Golden Globes for George Wallace and Gia. Won Oscar for Girl, Interrupted. Made Tomb Raider that was an international box office hit. Made the Tomb Raider sequel for which she was one of the highest paid actresses at the time. And she was already being propped up as the most beautiful/sexiest woman alive around this time by the media. And this was all before she made Mr. and Mrs. Smith. How the hell is this considered a B list career? Also, what famous director? She is the spawn of Jon Voight. She could have rode that name alone if she wanted easy ride in the biz. But no one's ever evoked Voight's name to talk about Jolie. She made her own name despite being daughter of a famous actor and all the crazy antics early in her career.

I dislike all home wreckers. Gay, straight, bi, female, male, trans. I know perfectly well why and how it happens, and how often it's inevitable the marriage is failing, and people are cowards so this is ow they move on, and often for the best. blah blah blah

I still think its tacky tacky tacky. There are so many fish in the sea. Go after one that is not married.

Jolie was only famous after Girl, Interrupted for her faux-edgy publicity stunts and relationships. Her movies were either horseshit like Tomb Raider or flops.

R199: LQTM. Sure, Jan.

You never had much of a point, so your tactic now is armchair psychology, which is hilarious and predictable. It's quite evident you are an aggrieved woman and an Aniston stan, with your excessive emotional investment in some tired old love triangle.

Unclench, frau.

Sorry, R203, but I hate Aniston and Dern. Though I can concede that Dern is a good actress. Sorry to burst your narrative bubble.

I actually cheered on Angelina and Brad when they got together - much to my chagrin now. LOL!

r200 comes armed with facts.

Jolie always had star power. Hate her, love her, or be indifferent.

Even Joan Rivers declared that about Jolie and Rivers had been in show business for decades and knew everybody from Elizabeth Taylor to Donald Trump.

R200, you really are a Jolie stan aren't you.

Kim Basinger won an Oscar. So what?

Fact is that Jolie had terrible taste in picking her projects. She was nowhere near the top earning list before Mr. and Mrs. Smith. Even her salary in that was thanks to Pitt's insistence she be cast. And, yes, her career was on a downward spiral before MAMS. Her early accolades were behind her and she was becoming more known for her crazy antics than her acting. Yes she was beautiful I will always give her that. But even that necessitated a complete change in her style for it to be accepted by the general public. Alexander, anyone? Taking Lives, Beyond Borders, Life or Something Like it, Original Sin? Come on. Get real. Getting with Brad Pitt rescued her career and secured an enviable future for her. She should be thanking the gods for his stupidity in falling for her.

Dolly Parton had it right all along.

(Angelina) Joile, Jolie, Jolie, Jolieeeeee, I begging of you please don’t take my man…

R206 She was already a top earning in-demand actress before Mr. and Mrs. Smith. Yeah, its true that getting with Brad added to her star power but you know who else got it too? Brad Pitt. They both equally enjoyed their Power couple Hollywood Royalty status. But she was already a star before partnering with Brad. After MAMS, she continued with her own projects of her choice that had nothing to do with Brad. Its not like she suddenly became Brad Pitt's girlfriend actor. No, a star in her own right. Also, stars don't need an enduring career with critical acclaims and accolades as opposed to actors. Neither Pitt nor Jolie are acclaimed actors by any means and yet, they still remain relevant in public.

So in other words R140, you forgive your father because he provided the $$$$$. And that's pretty much what I've noticed among children whose fathers ruined their families. As long as said Daddy keeps the gravy train going, all eventually is forgiven. Money>ethics. And I include the women who stood by Weinstein and Pitt.

Angelina has no moral high ground when she expects money from Pitt, if he is this horrible person she says he is, then she can separate from him and support her kids by herself. But she wants to tell everyone what an awful person he is while collecting child support and alimony from that very same monster. It's completely asinine.

Mr. and Mrs. Smith was a shit film and they had horrible chemistry.

Whatever. Saint Angelina mades ocean tankers full of money on her recent, forgettable witchy movies. 33 million SALARY on the first Malificent and producer cash and profits. It grossed 3/4 billion. The second one grossed 1/2 billion.

How could she possibly need cash from Brad? Is her heroin the very finest ever shipped?

I can’t wait to read the Mommy Dearest Angelina version .

Well you tell us R211 why did Brad have to loan her 10 million for her fancy pants house. She slums around with the poors but chooses to live in the most expensive of homes. I find this repulsive, personally. What is especially grotesque is when she hoists these heavy expensive bags from her bony arms, as though she is signally her worth to the world.

Sad skinny lady with her huge purses. That is all she will end up with --- her huge shoes, those huge purses and of course the ugly mean-spirited Asian kid who will be glummed onto to her for the rest of their lives.

someone get R148 a padded cell. There's no reason for someone as rich as Weinstein to be so ugly.

I agree, r214. It doesn't get dark enough to bed that prickly pear faced lizard.

Wow R140 that was an awesome post

Brad probably just didn't know!

You know how Trump is a poor person's idea of a rich person? Jolie is a boring person's idea of an interesting person. The weapons-grade irony of using the word "frau" to describe those who fail to fall under the anodyne one's spell.

Angelina, like her ex husband, has only ever had one thing going for her: the fact that she was better looking than 99.999% of the rest of humanity. It's gone now, for both of them, and only Brad understood the importance of not being a complete cunt to the people who could help him out in life (and they both appear to have utterly failed their children, albeit in different and gender-specific ways). I don't feel sorry for either one. Retro gossip wars is amusing, though. What BMI over 25 will I be accused of having for failing to lick the withered taint of your white bread "vamp?"

Pitt was a bigger star than AngieJo when they hooked up, but she was getting close.

EVERYONE knew about Harvey. Just about everyone worked with Harvey.

She's a batshit narcissist, always was. Makes me feel sorry for Bradley, which is a first. I've always felt sorry for their kids.

In a casual conversation on a board of little consequence, yes, r137, that's what I'm calling it.

[quote]She also is a once-a-generation beauty.

Surgery and starvation can definitely boost a gal's looks, but let's not forget her doughy chin in Tomb Raider (and pre-fame photos).

Her career and level of stardom weren't all-that prior to hooking up with Brad. Back when she won her Oscar, most people thought she was a goth-acting weirdo who was best known for making out with her brother.

FYI R125

This story is on Reddit and the stupid fraus are all over the people who are like "everybody knew about Weinstein."

"What did you know? That HW was a serial rapist? You knew that back in 2007/08 when Brad Pitt signed onto Inglorious Basterds? Did you report it to the Police?

That’s my point, victims knew, some had a clearer view of the monster than others. But it transpires that the worst cases were wrapped in NDA’s.

I can understand the majority of people at the time thinking he just a creep, a womaniser, maybe even “a bit handsy” (almost threw up typing that, but it was an acceptable euphemism in those times). But I don’t think many “knew” he was a criminal serial rapist & those that did were signed up to very large gagging orders.

We apply the “you should have know, it’s obvious” only with hindsight.

I not saying you’re right or wrong, I’m just saying we should be careful to judge people on their actions based on the information they had then, not on what we think they should have done based on our hindsight."

If someone has assaulted you, it's pretty reasonable for you to ask your partner not to work with them and feel let down/betrayed when they do, especially when that partner previously stood up against the man who had assaulted a past lover.

What is so difficult to understand?

R225 and everyone else defending this Jolie piece of garbage. They separated in 2016. Has she ever done an interview who doesn’t mention the fucking FATHER OF HER KIDS in the worst light possible since then?

I mean she can hate him all she wants but I can’t see the consistency between the “wAnTiNg My FaMiLy To HeAl” charade and stirring shit about their father at every chance she gets.

They were together for a lot of years, of course shit happens when you are partnered with someone, have you seen Brad talking shit about her? Because I am really sure he has his burnt book too. No he hasn’t, ever, because he really wants to move on and for his family to really heal.

Stop defending this psycho lunatic, she has no excuse for her behavior.

R226 and everyone else who doesn't understand journalism, IT WAS AN INTERVIEW. SHE WAS ASKED QUESTIONS. SHE ANSWERED THEM.

R227 She controls every one of her interviews, Maddox. Your mummy wants this to never die, is her only way to keep in the spotlight? Brad didn’t need to mention her to win an Oscar 3 years ago. Just think.

He won an Oscar last year, not 3 years ago. Get your facts straight.

R229 You really care about daddy, huh?

I like her but this seems like A+ level trolling. Its purposely linking Pitt to a wildly unpopular figure for a few rounds of press.

So she just has the one Oscar... the supporting from 20 years ago?

Their French property was magnificent.

I think their last film together 'By the Sea' tells their real story. Booze and neurosis.

R227 Are you really that naive? Jolie would have approved a list of questions in advance. Whatever she said in the interview she 100% wanted to say.

[quote]So she just has the one Oscar... the supporting from 20 years ago?

Yes, and I now have three. All lead.

Plus one for producing.

What do you have, bitch?

Well, fact is that Pitt knew Weinstein was assaulting women and kept working with him. Jolie knew Weinstein was assaulting women and didn't work with him. I think Pitt is the asshole here.

The women who worked with Weinstein knew he was assaulting women. Yet they chose to put themselves in that position anyway. See how that works ?

Wasn’t Shakespeare in Love AFTER Gwyneth’s relationship with Brad? So HW tried to rape her and then she went onto star in a Miramax movie and win the Oscar? I recall she was in a relationship with Ben Affleck at that time

[quote] What is especially grotesque is when she hoists these heavy expensive bags from her bony arms, as though she is signally her worth to the world.

I think she gets paid to go out in public with those purses. IIRC, it's Louis Vuitton and/or Christian Dior.

[quote] everyone else who doesn't understand journalism, IT WAS AN INTERVIEW. SHE WAS ASKED QUESTIONS. SHE ANSWERED THEM.

OMG. You need to give up your name if you are going to try to play that naive. This is all a performance by her . . . and not a very credible one at that.

Honestly this is why I don't get all the adoration and deification of celebrities. The Weinstein scandal exposed the industry is truly filled with so many weak-willed narcissists with little morals who only care about getting work and achieving stardom. That's how people like Weinstein were able to thrive. If everyone in the industry had refused to work with him that would have taken away his power. But people just turned a blind eye and ignored the shady behavior. Nobody in this story is a "hero" per se. But Angie is a bit more respectable for sticking to her guns, I applaud her for that.

Have you guys ever read the exchange between Amy Pascal, Scott Rudin, and Angelina Jolie over the “Cleopatra” movie? Angelina was so oblivious and air-heady.

[quote] If someone has assaulted you, it's pretty reasonable for you to ask your partner not to work with them and feel let down/betrayed when they do, especially when that partner previously stood up against the man who had assaulted a past lover. What is so difficult to understand?

Angelina still refuses to say what happened with Weinstein. We know that she has redefined what she calls a "near assault" (whatever the hell that means) to mean an "assault". So who knows what she told Brad about an incident that happened 10 years earlier. I just doubt that Brad would have gone ahead with it if she insisted he not work with Weinstein.

We do know that Brad had Weinstein demoted form Producer to Executive Producer so he wouldn't be that involved with the production and not be able to get awards for producing. We also know that Brad had him banned from the set as well as the Cannes Red Carpet and other events (parties, dinners). It took Tarantino a week or so of in person lobbying to get Brad to take the part.

Jolie out and out lied about Killing Them Softly. She claimed that Brad went to Harvey at the start to ask him to finance it. That did not happen. Two other production companies had KTS (Annapurna and Zero something IIRC) and then Plan B came on board. It wasn't until after the film's completion that Annapurna and the other production company sold the US distribution rights to The Weinstein Group, Brad & Plan B had no say in that.

How come she isn't calling out her former husbands about their work with Weinstein after she told them about her "incident"? She claimed she told Jonny Lee Miller about it but we don't know what she told him happened and at the time Jolie was heavy into drugs and Miller may have found her less than credible. He experienced first hand her fucked up drug years on heroin and crack. Nonetheless he went on to work with Weinstein at least 2 more times. Same with Billy Bob.

She just isn't believable. Her drug use at the time of the alleged incident and her motivation for telling it now as a way to continue to demonize Pitt diminishes her credibility.

What's so hard to understand about that?

It seems that Angelina only harms herself. She gives love and respect to everyone else. But don’t mess with her because she will defend herself and her brood. She is no door mat.

R233 That compound. I mean, jfc.

R244, LOL. Did you wander over from a Jolie fan site?

[quote]We know that she has redefined what she calls a "near assault" (whatever the hell that means) to mean an "assault".

Same thing with Rose McGowan. Harvey allegedly ate her out while she sat on the edge of a Jacuzzi, which she decided was "rape" after she didn't get the role she was meeting him about. No explanation of why she didn't stand up and walk out the door.

The majority of these "assaults" were actresses who were fucking for roles and then didn't get the expected role. A lot of "redefining" going on there.

Here's my analogy. Harvey Weinstein was like Amazon.com and everybody (actors, actresses) was living in the hinterlands, "needing" to order stuff from Amazon. Only a very few would say no to Harvey Weinstein.

Also, as stated above. We're all greedy, but the fame/money combo is strong. People like Angelina / Brad do all kinds of shit and have all kinds of desires that "normal" people never even heard of.

Yes, R242, I read (and very much enjoyed) that entire set of leaks. Scott Rudin knew what was up even back then when AJ was untouchable and "camp event" is to this day one of the most devastating insults I've ever heard. He said it in (what he assumed was and would stay) a private conversation, too, so you know it's what he actually thought. It was also - as all devastating insults are - entirely true.

Just fucking lol at anybody who thinks Angelina Jolie is or ever was some kind of edgy outsider figure. Beautiful but fucked up young woman gets into drugs, uses her sexuality to get what she wants and then settles down with the H-Wood equivalent of the high school quarterback in her early 30s. Together, they quickly produce/procure a whole mess of children neither of them are truly equipped and/or dedicated to raising properly and, when the marriage goes south and our girl's looks are fading fast, here comes the bitter divorce, the public recriminations and the open using of the children to self-servingly bolster her own image as a protective mother figure. No part of that story is anything other than 100% cliche, from the smallest small town to the ritziest California locale.

[quote]People like Angelina / Brad do all kinds of shit and have all kinds of desires that "normal" people never even heard of.

I think a lot of us normals have those desires - the difference is we lack to resources to live them out - and the power/clout to try to evade the consequences if we do.

R221, it’s rare when the super skinny look “boosts a girl’s looks”. It usually makes the girl look gaunt and older . Me thinks you hate women.

R249 You just know Rudin is the King of reading anyone to filth and hitting where it hurts in the most articulate, scathing manner. I would like to think he posts here from time to time.

As my grannie used to say , "what a crock of shit".

Yes, thanks to that gem by Rudin, whenever I hear of Jolie I think "camp event". That is the essence of her soul.

Also called her a minimally talented spoiled brat lol

[Quote] So HW tried to rape her and then she went onto star in a Miramax movie and win the Oscar?

When did the casting couch turn into rape?

I was being sarcastic R256

What is a “camp event”? Like she’s the human embodiment of a midnight screening of Whatever Happened To Baby Jane?

Yes ^

Yes, this was quite a camp event.

Yes, The Leg was highly camp. I'm sure I've seen a few photos of her looking tearful and overwrought - whilst surrounded by poor, brown refugee children - that met the bar as well.

The leg was over the top but that is how starlets pose now regularly. Also, we did not see Angelina and her brood yukin’ it up on the tik-tok during quarantine, so I give her that.

Um, Jolie was parading those kids all over the place before and during the pandemic and unlike other celebs she had access to serious media so she used that media to parade her home and her kids about. She didn't need tik-tok, But now she has IG to put her children on full display and that's what she's doing.

Camp event

Campy

This one had me rolling the first time i saw it

That time she did blackface.

R265/R266, she actually believed that was an artistic depiction of her character. That's right artistic, not autistic.

She really is clueless and without any self-awareness.

Okay, she does the same thing as Amber Heard did with Johnny Depp. It's all about smearing Brad Pitt's image and career because either she has something to hide so she's blackmaiing Brad with revelations that will ruin his image, or it's a psychological pressure tactic to get him to give up joint the custody. I wonder what strategy Brad's lawyers will adopt now. How will he asnwer to that..

I had forgotten about her cosplaying part black/Jewish Miriam Pearl. Good lord, such camp.

There has to be just wind whistling between her ears.

R270 Miriam, whose memoir the film was based on, personally wanted Angelina to portray her.

R271, so the story goes. But who knows. Brad was producing the film and Marianne wanted it filmed and she portrayed by an A list actress. Was she in a position to veto the casting? I don't think so.

Funny how the world is supposed to make exceptions for Jolie's behavior and what she wants. Considering she has a black daughter, you'd think she'd have sacrificed that role to promote a mixed race actress.

I knew what gif that was before I clicked R266. That's a classic. She looks fucking RIDICULOUS. Those tortured, post-surgery bullet nips in R265 as well...urgh.

R262 doesn't know what camp is. It's not family skits on tiktok. It most very definitely *is* The Leg.

Sadly, The Leg is her last truly outstanding red carpet look. Barely any jewellery, tousled hair, outstanding makeup and a deceptively complex dress in basic black that emphasises the woman. And even then she was upstaged by Jim Rash onstage, with Alexander Payne looking green, thinking about those opportunities to be produced by Brad Pitt slipping away.

Watching her pose like a D-Lister, like Jennifer Love Hewitt peeking over a backless dress, she killed the mystique for me.

She’s worn a few black leather dresses at events and attempted similar looks since but nothing at all of interest.

R267 I’m no Angie stan, but using makeup to get into the character she was personally requested to play in a film is hardly blackface, you sensationalistic dolt. Grow up.

R264 Wow. Celebrities really are insane. She really has zero self-awareness.

R274 Im not saying she isn’t campy! She is a camp event, completely! We are in agreement.

Please, R276. AJ would be rightfully skewered if she attempted to do this role today.

Such a severe narccisist, she is unable to develop self awareness that would allow her to see how ridiculous and idiotic she is.

[quote] I’m no Angie stan, but using makeup to get into the character she was personally requested to play in a film is hardly blackface

Of course it is in this case. We're not talking about mascara or a scar , we talking about darkening her skin color and her eye color to make her look like a mixed race person. Plus that wig. Please. Yes, you are an Angie stan.

That "personally requested to play" is a bit suspect. She was the wife of the film's producer who owned the rights to the story. Marianne was happy to please Pitt who in turn wanted to please his wife who really wanted that role. Jolie befriending her to get her imprimatur was typical of her.

Angelina Jolie will never finalise this divorce before her youngest are 18.

She learned from her mother who mentioned Jon Voight should have given her more alimony in her will.

The Leg was such a terrible pose that when someone Photoshopped it to look like she did it with both legs, a lot of people believed it, they thought it was a legitimate photo from the same red carpet event. She'd already been on the receiving end of a lot of snark on gossip and entertainment websites, but that's when it all went to hell for her. People were no longer enthralled, they were tired of her.

I remember the leg “accident” perfectly, I was in college. OMG how we laughed.

Now that Angelina is carousing around town with the Weeknd, Brad needs to go public with his fucktoys.