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Ethan Hawke says he thought Robin Williams 'hated me' while filming 'Dead Poets Society'

Their on-screen teacher-student bond in 1989's Dead Poets Society continues to move movie-goers more than three decades later, but Ethan Hawke says that his real-life relationship with late co-star Robin Williams was somewhat rockier.

Speaking to journalists at the Karlovy Vary Film Festival, where he was awarded the President's Award, Hawke admitted that as a young actor, he had little patience for Williams's antics during filming, Variety reports.

"I thought Robin hated me," Hawke, who had his breakthrough role in the Peter Weir film, shared. "He had a habit of making a ton of jokes on set. At 18, I found that incredibly irritating. He wouldn’t stop and I wouldn’t laugh at anything he did."

Hawke, who played a teenage student taught by Williams's unconventional and inspiring English teacher, remembered his co-star needling him during filming, but said he's since come to see the older actor's perspective.

"There was this scene in the film when he makes me spontaneously make up a poem in front of the class," he recalled. "He made this joke at the end of it, saying that he found me intimidating. I thought it was a joke. As I get older, I realize there is something intimidating about young people’s earnestness, their intensity. It is intimidating — to be the person they think you are. Robin was that for me."

Williams, who died by suicide in 2014, at least liked his young co-star enough to help him out in Hollywood. According to the now-50-year-old Hawke, the famed comedian helped him get his first agent.

“[The agent] called, saying, ‘Robin Williams says you are going to do really well,'" the actor, screenwriter and director said.

Hawke shared more about his experience filming with Williams during a 2018 appearance on The Graham Norton Show, explaining how, at the time, he struggled with his co-star's improv and tendency to crack up the crew.

"I really wanted to be a serious actor," he told Norton. "I had read Stanislavsky and I had what was supposed to be in my pockets and I really wanted to be in character, and I really didn't want to laugh. The more I didn't laugh, the more insane he got. He would make fun of [me]. 'Oh this one doesn't want to laugh.' And the more smoke would come out of my ears. He didn't understand, I was trying to do a good job. I want to be Montgomery Clift over here, you're trying to be Zero Mostel or something. So I thought he hated me because he would constantly lay into me. No sooner would action start and he would lay into 'Todd' over here. That was my character's name."

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by Anonymousreply 57August 30, 2021 8:57 PM

Robin William's antics would be a fucking nightmare to deal with.

by Anonymousreply 1August 30, 2021 1:31 AM

Ethan Hawke seems like a good dude.

by Anonymousreply 2August 30, 2021 1:32 AM

"And he kept talking about how I should never grow a goatee, because I would look like a real douchey cunt."

by Anonymousreply 3August 30, 2021 1:32 AM

The Ethan Hawke novel that came out during the pandemic is very gossipy for anyone interested in his divorce from Uma and the play he did around that time with Kevin Kline.

by Anonymousreply 4August 30, 2021 1:36 AM

R4 Just give us the highlights

by Anonymousreply 5August 30, 2021 1:37 AM

Ethan has always been an uptight, pretentious twit.

I liked "Before Sunrise" when it first came out, but as the years went by, I realized it was a crap movie!

Then I recently watched "Before Midnight" on Showtime, and it was THE most pretentious garbage I have ever seen in my entire life of watching movies. Absolutely horrible!!!

Ethan Hawke must be completely insufferable in real life.

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by Anonymousreply 6August 30, 2021 1:45 AM

R5 He (or, “the protagonist”) cheated on Uma in a throwaway affair after some time of them growing into different people during her trajectory to “actor” to “worldwide superstar.” After the split, she basically said “talk to the hand” and turned her back on him, so he went and acted out like a miserable douche and started going through women like they were disposable. He then did a play (Hamlet maybe?) with a bunch of people, the most prominent of whom was Kevin Kline, who was a controlling diva who sounds awful to work with, except that he was also brilliant at acting. It was a funny, kind of wry book.

by Anonymousreply 7August 30, 2021 1:46 AM

I can certainly understand his feelings. RW never seemed to know when to turn down the dial. If there was anyone around he was always"on". I'm sure that could be very irritating g for some who can't handle manic personalities.

by Anonymousreply 8August 30, 2021 1:53 AM

The book, “A Bright Ray of Darkness, ” is a good beach read.

He writes deceptively well

by Anonymousreply 9August 30, 2021 1:54 AM

[quote]Hawke admitted that as a young actor, he had little patience for Williams's antics during filming, Variety reports.

[quote]"I thought Robin hated me," Hawke, who had his breakthrough role in the Peter Weir film, shared. "He had a habit of making a ton of jokes on set. At 18, I found that incredibly irritating. He wouldn’t stop and I wouldn’t laugh at anything he did."

Wow, I always detested Robin Williams for just that reason. He sounds EXACTLY like my high school geometry teacher, "Coach" C. I had always been a great student, but higher math and I just didn't dance. And so I needed a fucking teacher, but what I got was a bad fucking comedian. And so I always sat stonefaced, trying my best to not show the anger and frustration I felt every. single. day.

One day Coach C. asked me to stay after class. When we were alone, Coach asked me very gently "You don't like me much, do you? I can't get a read on you." I told him I liked him fine (while "wtf"-ing in my head), but that I was a serious student and I just had little patience for all his constant wisecracking while I was sitting there every day trying not to cry because I just wasn't getting the material, and he wasn't [italic]teaching[/italic] me.

To his credit, he apologized and promised to do better. Unfortunately, corny wisecracking or none, he was just a godawful teacher.

by Anonymousreply 10August 30, 2021 2:00 AM

Thanks, R7

by Anonymousreply 11August 30, 2021 2:02 AM

[quote] To his credit, he apologized and promised to do better. Unfortunately, corny wisecracking or none, he was just a godawful teacher.

Sounds like both these guys were over-compensating for their own insecurities.

Perhaps hoping that acting like an idiot goofball would somehow take away from the fact that your teacher couldn't teach, and Robin Williams couldn't act.

It's like a deflection technique.

by Anonymousreply 12August 30, 2021 2:04 AM

Dear Ethan Hawke,

You were right the first time. He *was* irritating.

by Anonymousreply 13August 30, 2021 2:04 AM

Ethan Hawke is a DISNEY PRINCESS 👸

He once did a play ( maybe on Broadway I’m not sure) and complained about it saying - THIS IS HARD WORK 😓

by Anonymousreply 14August 30, 2021 2:08 AM

Well stated, R12. And you're right.

Incidentally, nearly 30 years later, I hired a student worker who had just graduated from that same high school. When he came aboard I asked him if So-and-So was still teaching, and told him my Coach C. story. He burst out laughing and said omg he was STILL cracking the exact same cornpone decades later as geometry teacher... AND [italic]Principal.[/italic]

Go figure.

by Anonymousreply 15August 30, 2021 2:32 AM

[quote] The Ethan Hawke novel

A what??!!

by Anonymousreply 16August 30, 2021 2:34 AM

Sad for his unhappiness and tragic life, but I hated Robin Williams’ manic, aping performances. The worst (to me) was “Good Morning, Vietnam”.

He was funny in a brief clip in The Aristocrats, with an honest joke about cocaine.

by Anonymousreply 17August 30, 2021 2:54 AM

He's a red flag for me to avoid a movie. I don't like his look (homeless meth), his acting, his personality... nothing.

by Anonymousreply 18August 30, 2021 2:55 AM

Barry Levinson (Toys) and Chris Columbus (Mrs. Doubtfire) both had a really hard time directing Robin Williams. They're iconic directors and he was a comedy legend, but he just wouldn't shut the fuck up and do a clean read of anything. He couldn't be coached. Hell, he couldn't be directed. Columbus said he finally gave up and just let Robin do whatever he wanted for several takes, and they'd pick the best one in editing.

Robin's comedy genius was erratic and high-energy. People like that don't take well to the firm structure of a film set, with its script and schedules and take after take of the same lines. He was occasionally capable of shutting up and delivering a human performance (The Fisher King, Bicentennial Man, What Dreams May Come), but you can easily see why mainstream directors would have a hard time getting him to hit his marks and stick to the script. It must've pissed off his co-stars, too.

by Anonymousreply 19August 30, 2021 3:07 AM

So Ethan was insufferable even before he was famous.

by Anonymousreply 20August 30, 2021 3:09 AM

As a kid I loved him in Mork & Mindy, but his shtick wore thin pretty fast and I also avoided his movies. The manic thing could be funny in moderation, but the treacley schmaltz that he would constantly veer into really left me cold.

That poster they had up in the subways for Patch Addams could give you diabeetus just looking at it.

by Anonymousreply 21August 30, 2021 3:38 AM

There was only one movie where his manic energy worked, and that was "The Birdcage."

Robin must have had his meds under control during filming of that movie, because he was spot-on.

He was mellow when he was supposed to be, and he was high-energy when he was supposed to be.

It's the only Robin Williams movie that I can actually sit through.

by Anonymousreply 22August 30, 2021 3:41 AM

He always seemed coked up to me in every appearance. I couldn't figure out why people found that so charming.

by Anonymousreply 23August 30, 2021 3:42 AM

R22 FUCK THE SHRIMP!

by Anonymousreply 24August 30, 2021 3:42 AM

Lol R24.

FOSSE FOSSE FOSSE!

MARTHA GRAHAM MARTHA GRAHAM MARTHA GRAHAM!

Or, MADONNA. MADONNA. MADONNA.

Only Robin Williams could have pulled that off.

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by Anonymousreply 25August 30, 2021 3:46 AM

Damn, I forgot "MICHAEL KIDD MICHAEL KIDD MICHAEL KIDD!! Or TWILA TWILA TWILA!"

by Anonymousreply 26August 30, 2021 3:48 AM

The first comment in the video at R25 said that Robin Williams made that all up on the spot. He did Improv!

Sometimes it works.

by Anonymousreply 27August 30, 2021 3:49 AM

It’s been a while since I watched it, and I agree it is an annoying film, R6, but I thought Eh’s character in Before Midnight was a lot more likable than Julie Delpy’s. That was an annoying character. I remember reading she was very involved in working on the script for this sequel (not sure about him) and just thought that’s the character you wanted to create? Okay.

If they ever do another one, I hope it is called Before Twilight or Dusk or something similar and deals with them addressing serious aging concerns. Maybe her character has dementia or something.

by Anonymousreply 28August 30, 2021 3:50 AM

R22 here's a blooper of that scene. It's hilarious.

I'm not at all a Robin Williams fan, but he really did a great job in The Birdcage.

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by Anonymousreply 29August 30, 2021 3:51 AM

I want a houseman I can scream at like that. "Stop crying! Goddamn you! What's the matter with you?"

by Anonymousreply 30August 30, 2021 3:53 AM

[quote] If they ever do another one, I hope it is called Before Twilight or Dusk or something similar and deals with them addressing serious aging concerns. Maybe her character has dementia or something.

I think a more poignant movie would be if one of them dies.

It would be so nostalgic and heartbreaking, considering how they met and all of their experiences together.

A chance meeting backpacking through Europe, another chance meeting years later, reconnecting, having a relationship, and then dying.

It's 30 or 40 years in the making, but it would be an interesting take.

I'd call it "Until we meet again."

by Anonymousreply 31August 30, 2021 3:55 AM

I meant R24!

by Anonymousreply 32August 30, 2021 3:57 AM

All these posts and nobody includes the infamous Details cover of Ethan Hawke?

The cover emerged around the same time rumors hit DL that Ethan craved being a sub for hung black dudes.

All that being said, Ethan has thrived much longer than his early colleagues : Robert Sean Leonard, Matt Dillon, etc.

He is a real individualist and almost always turns in interesting performances in terrific, underrated films.

Oh, and Robin Williams is annoying as hell onscreen, can you imagine how over-the-top and painful the outtakes must have been?

by Anonymousreply 33August 30, 2021 3:59 AM

He hated that you didn't have to shave your entire body 3 times a week.

by Anonymousreply 34August 30, 2021 4:00 AM

[quote]I can certainly understand his feelings. RW never seemed to know when to turn down the dial. If there was anyone around he was always"on". I'm sure that could be very irritating g for some who can't handle manic personalities.

As a viewer it was always too much for me to take (RW's appearance on "Inside the Actors Studio" was painful to watch), I can only imagine how hard it is to be acting opposite him and he's eating up the day with his antics while you're still trying to remain in character and do the job you're there to do.

by Anonymousreply 35August 30, 2021 4:05 AM

R33 Who DOESN'T crave being a sub for Hung Black Dudes?

I remember a classic thread from Nifty about Ryan Phillippe's secret lust for BBC and loads up the ass. It was trash then, and it's trash now.

by Anonymousreply 36August 30, 2021 4:10 AM

R36, link please!

by Anonymousreply 37August 30, 2021 4:13 AM

Here is the INFAMOUS Details cover....note the sub-heading.

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by Anonymousreply 38August 30, 2021 4:19 AM

ITA @ R35. I can't stand egomaniacs who are always on, performing 24/7. They're exhausting. I have no interest in being their audience or feeding their voracious appetite for attention.

by Anonymousreply 39August 30, 2021 9:58 AM

Robin Williams and Joan Rivers, I miss them both so terribly.

by Anonymousreply 40August 30, 2021 10:36 AM

On an interview with DL fave Terry Gross, she admitted that while she was entertained by Williams constant improv, it got tiring pretty quick. In early years, Hawke did seem like a self-important douche, but he also seems like he's grown up & gained some perspective. He could've just said "yeah, me & Robin were best mates - we loved each other & hung out!" Instead he tells a story that story acknowledging a truth about Williams, but also that time & age enabled him to see the situation from Williams' perspective.

There was an interview with him from The Good Lord Bird press tour in NYMAG that was quite good

by Anonymousreply 41August 30, 2021 10:53 AM

Many years back I read an article on RW and they had spoken to some stand-up comedian who told a story of the time RW attended one of his sets at some comedy club. RW sat where everyone could see him and proceeded to interrupt the poor guy's set constantly with his own 'act'. Finally the comedian had enough and stopped, looked down at RW, and said very matter-of-actly "YES ROBIN WE ALL KNOW YOU'RE HERE!". He then restarted his routine and RW waited a short while and then snuck out, or at least he thought he was sneaking out since he'd made the mistake of sitting where every move he made could be seen by most of those in the club.

by Anonymousreply 42August 30, 2021 11:35 AM

I always wonder how Williams got along with Christopher Nolan because he got Williams' most subtle performance out of him.

by Anonymousreply 43August 30, 2021 11:48 AM

I’d like an explanation for how Ethan became so rugged looking at an early age. He went from fresh-faced eighteen year-old to worn out old man very quickly.

by Anonymousreply 44August 30, 2021 11:51 AM

He was a drug addict, R44.

It was pretty well known.

But then he cleaned up his act.

by Anonymousreply 45August 30, 2021 12:41 PM

Has Ethan ever presented hole?

by Anonymousreply 46August 30, 2021 1:29 PM

Didn't Hawke marry his kid's nanny?

Also, I think Robin Williams did too.

by Anonymousreply 47August 30, 2021 3:14 PM

Did he clean up tho? He always seemed like he was flying. Did he leave a suicide note?

by Anonymousreply 48August 30, 2021 3:26 PM

Poor guy filled with anxiety.

by Anonymousreply 49August 30, 2021 4:07 PM

R46- Why would you assume he presented hole. Maybe Ethan Hawke is a TOP and someone needs to present hole to him.

by Anonymousreply 50August 30, 2021 4:10 PM

I prefer Robin in dramas. He’s too manic otherwise

by Anonymousreply 51August 30, 2021 4:13 PM

Ethan was a meth head for a long time. I'm glad Uma wouldn't put up with his crap anymore. I think he's a talented actor but damn he got rough looking.

He's right about RW, however.

I do love the performances Robin gave in The Fisher King, Bicentennial Man, What Dreams May Come, The Final Cut, 1 Hour Photo, Good Will Hunting, and Insomnia. When he wanted to be, he was a very good actor. I don't care much for his overly manic performances like in Hook or Good Morning Vietnam. As was said before, The Bird Cage is the one film that used his mania the most successfully.

by Anonymousreply 52August 30, 2021 4:38 PM

R52

Uma never had to see needles and crack pipes when she was dating me in the mid-90s! Just a string of low-budget bombs.

by Anonymousreply 53August 30, 2021 5:02 PM

Buck never would have starred in any low-budget bombs.

by Anonymousreply 54August 30, 2021 5:07 PM

I'm sure Williams was difficult to direct and people probably knew that going into projects with him. OTOH, Hawke always seemed overrated until I saw Boyhood--esp. the parts that were filmed recently. My guess is that he took Williams' mania and improvisation personally rather than trying to understand who he was.

by Anonymousreply 55August 30, 2021 5:12 PM

The irony. Ethan was too ego-bound to take the opportunity to observe and learn from a master performer at work.

Steve Martin is the one to blame for pioneering that manic stand-up comedy style. Robin was just giving the people what they wanted.

There's two types of comedians, the ones who are desperate to be liked and the mean little pricks who use comedy as a cover for doing and saying things they couldn't get away with in real life.

by Anonymousreply 56August 30, 2021 5:38 PM

I thought RW gave a great, understated (and creepy) performance in 1 hour photo.

by Anonymousreply 57August 30, 2021 8:57 PM
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