Did you ever, at one point, say, “I’d like people to take me seriously as an actor?”
No, never.
Really? You never had your Juilliard moment?
No, I never did, because I always felt, when I was doing these characters, I was acting. The trick was to make the eccentricity believable and yet funny. So I never felt like, “Oh, but if I could only play in ‘Long Day’s Journey [Into Night],’ I’d prove to the world I was worth something.” When I was asked to be in “Damages,” I jumped at that, because I loved the series. But I remember the first scene we shot, it was a deposition. Glenn Close was on this side, and I was representing Lily Tomlin. And Glenn kept saying, “Guys, this isn’t fair. How can I be looking at these people and get through this scene?” And then, at one point, we’d done a bunch of takes and one of the producers came up and said, “Marty, can we try one where you don’t smile? When you smile, you become Martin Short.” And I said, “Well, you’re kind of stuck.”
We went into the corner. I said, “The worst thing you can ever do is cast someone funny, but not have them smile, because it looks like they become self-conscious. They’re doing a drama now.” I mean, even the evilest of characters will do jokes or smile. I’ve actually seen comedic actors do that stretch, and they are afraid to show the light side. Is it sincere if people going through tragedy don’t, at one point, smile?
When did you start to sing?
Early. I just always sang. I was doing imaginary shows and specials, and I did an album when I was fifteen, “Martin Short Sings of Songs and Loves Ago.” What I’d done is take Frank Sinatra’s album “September of My Years” and I would use the intros and extros, so I was stuck in his key.
Did you ever want to be a singer as a career?
I thought, early on, I would’ve loved to have been a singer. But I realized that, at a certain point, the audience makes a pact. I remember this guy, his name was George Kirby, I saw him on “The Ed Sullivan Show.” He did the greatest impersonations of everybody. And one week, on “Ed Sullivan,” he just was going legit. He was just going to sincerely sing. And I’m going, “Is there a sandbag that drops on him at one point? You’re breaking your contract with us.” Lorne Michaels has this thing where he says, “You go to the zoo and you see the monkeys and they have a right to be reflective, but if they’re not swinging by their tails and jumping around, we go, ‘I’ll come back later.’ Marty, you’re one of the monkeys.”
Do you think you want to stop ever? Do you have a point at which you’re, like, “I’m going to be done?”
Steve has always said, about show business, you’re finished five years before anyone tells you. Your wife doesn’t tell you, your agent doesn’t tell you, your lawyer doesn’t tell you, but should you have stopped? Are you on fumes? Forgetting that part, I think that, as long as you can be effective, you don’t want to become a parody. You don’t want people to say, at the end of your career, “Well, he was so great in the eighties and nineties.” If you’re a chef, you have to keep baking and saying, “Oh, I know, we need less vanilla.”
Are you looking at comedy as an art form or as a craft?
It is definitely a craft, and I think it can be an art form, but I think you’re also always trying to make it your art. You know that line from “Sunday in the Park with George”—“Bit by bit, putting it together, small amounts add in to make the work of art”? That’s my philosophy.
It’s about fastidiousness, right? That entire show is about getting it right and sacrificing to get it right.
Yeah, the art of making art is putting it together.