Mia Farrow and Frank Sinatra

MIA IS BITCH...even back then.

I always knew Frank would wind up with a boy.

The marriage only lasted about 2 years. According to reports he was abusive with her - she would show up on the set of Rosemary's Baby with bumps and bruises.

Such an odd pairing.

She don’t eat, she don’t talk. What’s she do?

MIA fucking FARROW gets 4 posts in 3 days?

Boy, her relevance on DL has plummeted.

He was old enough to be her father. Of course he treated her like a bratty kid.

Allegedly he pursued her to get revenge on John Farrow for sleeping with Ava.

That haircut looked great on her.

He has Frank’s eyes.

I remember watching that "live".

Yeah, I'm old.

R10 They're his father's eyes.

Oh no...she LOVED playing the wee wittle waspy barely legal girl. She did it in Rosemary's Baby for those who don't know what her shtick was.

Horrible little fink.

[quote] The marriage only lasted about 2 years.

They were together for much longer than that. They started seeing each other in 1964. The press had a meltdown during a cruise they took back in the day. According to Ryan o'Neal, Mia asked him to point at Sinatra when he was shooting on the adjacent lot, she didn't know which one he was, and the next day she was there is a see-through baby doll slip. Sinatra's butler wrote in his memoir that Mia was very sexy, very beautiful at the time, in a Kate Moss kind of way, and was constantly naked around the house, flaunting her body. She was skinny, but the right amount of everything at the right place. I , for one, had a rush on her watchind peyton Place as a kid, and I still think she was at her most beautiful during her marriage to Frank, and the most beautiful starlet of the 60's

[quote]The marriage only lasted about 2 years.

Not even that.

Married in 66 - Frank sent over the divorce papers in 67.

[quote] Boy, her relevance on DL has plummeted

An oldtime star can't open a thread anymore, it's not just Mia. To sustain a full thread about old HW these days, you have to have an all star cast.

Mia was so lovely. Sinatra was a lucky man.

R15 see R14

strange couple, but they totally worked together

One thing I wonder about Mia, did she ever fuck a normal handsome young actor her own generation , like Warren Beatty ? or was it always old creeps ?

[quote]An oldtime star can't open a thread anymore, it's not just Mia.

There was a time when there was at least one Mia Farrow thread on the boil...usually several...for years.

I know R21, but now it's all about Froy, Connor, and whatnot.

[quote]One thing I wonder about Mia, did she ever fuck a normal handsome young actor her own generation , like Warren Beatty ? or was it always old creeps

She liked ugly older creepy men.

Tab Hunter in his book never had a bad word to say about anyone except her father who he said was a slimy creep.

She also had an affair with Peter Sellers

[quote]I know [R21], but now it's all about Froy, Connor, and whatnot.

It's whatnot who I can't stand.

I suppose there was a trend toward those pale ethereal waif types. The men who are attracted to them are fucked up. I suppose by the time Woody Allen got her, she had beefed up her intellectualism and was a bit more substantial.

And of course we know that Manic Pixie Dream Girls are neurotic maelstroms.

[quote] Tab Hunter in his book never had a bad word to say about anyone except her father

I remember that, I was SHOCKED. Tab DESTROYED Farrow, and then, when he died, Mia tweeted this

[quote] Mia Farrow@MiaFarrow9 juil. 2018 RIP Tab Hunter. Heartbreaking that even one second of this kind man’s life was spent worrying about being gay. During his final decades, he found happiness with his forever partner, Allan Glaser

Mia nevertheless has remained very good friends with Nancy Sinatra.

Peter Sellers was a jerk, too.

That girl’s picker was BROKEN. Daddy issues.

[quote]Mia nevertheless has remained very good friends with Nancy Sinatra.

Things got dodgy when Mia lit the Frank paternity scandal. Nancy was PISSED.

[quote] very good friends with Nancy Sinatra.

until she started the BS about the weirdo

Ronan does resemble Frank. He looks absolutely nothing like Woody.

[quote]Daddy issues.

Clearly.

She even admitted in her book that Frank smelled like her Dad.

R33 Eeew like booze, old fart and whore pussy

She even dated mega-creep Philip Roth.

I think I can understand why they were attracted to each other. She was unique, like a "sprite." I think she intrigued him and he felt tenderness towards because I guess she did seem like a fresh, naive kid to him. I think she was attracted to him because he had a strong, masculine presence and she felt protected with him. Of course their relationship didn't work as a marriage. He would make dumb jokes in his act like "I finally found a broad I can cheat on" that were offensive to her. And she wanted a career and he didn't want her to work. So they divorced. But their remained friends forever afterward. In fact, when the Woody Allen fiasco hit the fan Frank offered to have Woody's legs broken. I thought that was pretty cool. Mia should have taken him up on that one.

What I never get about her story - her Dad died and the family was broke so she reluctantly became an actress - just like that.

She is a STAR. No doubts about it.

[quote] she did seem like a fresh, naive kid to him.

I don't think Mia ever appeared like a naive kid to anyone except the unsuspecting audience. She was a muse of Dali who hosted the most notorious orgies in NYC, and Burton wrote in his bitchy autobio something along the lines of "her shtick - I was born last week, I have no idea what happened ever in Show business or who was who before that, look into my big innocent saucer eyes" was very tired

She slept with Frank, Jr. and got knocked up!

Hi, Ronan!!!!

I wish Ronan would have a fucking DNA test and get it over with.

Mia was robbed of an Oscar nomination for Rosemary's Baby. It's one of the greatest performances of the 1960s and perhaps THE greatest in any horror film.

[quote]Mia was robbed of an Oscar nomination for Rosemary's Baby.

And several Woody Allen movies.

She was superb in Broadway Danny Rose and Purple Rose of Cairo. It must be something about the word "rose" in the film's title.

[quote]Mia was robbed of an Oscar nomination for Rosemary's Baby. It's one of the greatest performances of the 1960s

Pin perfect.

Polanski said every idea she came up with was right on target.

People are so focused on her private life they forget how talented she was - even Woody admits it.

[quote] What I never get about her story - her Dad died and the family was broke so she reluctantly became an actress

They were destitute after Farrow's death (= living in the 11 rooms rent control flat in central park west LOL) and Poor Mia had to work. Her godfather, uncle George (Cukor) was paying her to attend shows and take notes for him. I think 50$ / evening. then Maureen sent Mia to an audition for THE IMPORTANCE OF BEING EARNEST, of course she got the part and mama called auntie Vivien (Leigh), who not only attended the show, but had her sign with her agent and made a few calls to have her signed with Fox, as a personal favor. That's how she got Peyton Place. In the clip below, at 4"06 she says that she knew she would get the part in the Wilde play. Extremely self-assured, very beautiful, and flirting shamelessly with andrews

[quote]She was superb in Broadway Danny Rose and Purple Rose of Cairo.

I agree.

Also very understated performance in Husbands and Wives.

I think the Woody scandal knocked the shit out of her. She's done nothing worthwhile since.

She was fabulous in RADIO DAYS. Ro won't take a paternity test because he knows he's Woody's. Nobody would have voted for Mia at the time of Rosemary"s baby, it would mean offending Frank

She's a natural wit. Watch this.

They did remain good friends after the divorce. Frank was very impressed and grateful she didn't seek alimony. He was used to gold diggers and leeches.

There's an apocryphal story that when Mia's divorce from Andre Previn became nasty, Frank offered to put out a hit on him for her.

[quote]There's an apocryphal story that when Mia's divorce from Andre Previn became nasty,

He was having an affair with a friend of hers while she was away on location.

Sinatra wanted a "wife" who would play the role and not ask questions. Mia was the virginal Allison Mackenzie from Peyton Place...I guess that's the only place old - OLD -Frankie could find his virgin.

You kids cannot IMAGINE how creepy the Sinatra-Farrow pairing was at the time. Absolutely disgusting, and it was talked about SO MUCH that even a 13 year old like me heard all the gossip. My father said Sinatra ruined his career over this.

[quote] They did remain good friends after the divorce

they didn't, this is the letter of two people who are not very close, and haven't seen each other in YEARS

[quote]You kids cannot IMAGINE how creepy the Sinatra-Farrow pairing was at the time. Absolutely disgusting, and it was talked about SO MUCH that even a 13 year old like me heard all the gossip.

That's why he married her. To sanctify their affair.

(& divorced her the following year)

I'm sure Ronan has done a DNA ancestry test and knows whether Woody or Frank is his father.

How did that letter get leaked, I wonder.

Did you look that up, twenty-something R53?

[quote]Did you look that up, twenty-something [R53]?

What the fuck are you talking about, grandpa?

You kids cannot IMAGINE how creepy the ALLEN-Farrow pairing was at the time. Absolutely disgusting, and it was talked about SO MUCH that even a 13 year old like me heard all the gossip

THIS was a scandal that occupied parent's dinners for years; How could this little creep land famed beauty Mia

R54 They know Rose. They know.

the joke about how good she was in RB was "she knows how it feels to live with the devil" (aka mobster Sinatra)

R14, I was a teenager in Massachusetts at the time, but recall that cruise well.

Frank and his party sailed up the east coast and docked at Cape Cod to visit the Kennedy compound.

Also aboard the yacht with Frank and Mia were Rosalind Russell and Claudette Colbert as "chaperones".

Love it when these dumb kids get all self-righteous over what they read 75 years later.

[quote]Love it when these dumb kids get all self-righteous over what they read 75 years later.

You remind me of my grandfather - we used to have to call my grandmother to shut him up.

[quote] How did that letter get leaked, I wonder.

There are several letters from Frank to Mia out there. Who could have leaked them I ? do we need Miss Marple on that one ? I don't think so

Not really, R58. Nice try though.

R64, Obviously, it was Mia.

well,R65, MY parents and their friends couldn't get over it, and Truman Capote wrote in his diaries that people were blaming Mia for dating Allen

[quote]Not really, [R58]. Nice try though.

Grandpa - go to bed you crotchety old fool. You're annoying everyone.

so many of them, do you think she SOLD them ?

another mystery about Mia is WHAT THE FUCK DOES SHE LIVE FROM ? she hasn't made a movie in 20 years ???

Nancy and Tina both said at the time that Mia was the first person to call them when Frank died and expressed concern for their mother.

They invited Mia to Frank's funeral, which she attended, most likely pissing off Barbara, who they disliked.

She sold off a ton of personal stuff at auction...even the sweater she wore for the court case with photos of her in front of the court.

How could Mia, a teenage waif, have accommodated Frank's legendary monstrous cock?

R68 = proving it's an asshole Millennial posing. Sorry it didn't work, kid!

I think that's all publicity, R73. :)

Did Mia also sell the POLAROID photos she found thar Woody took of Soon Yi naked?

R75, It's been well documented that Sinatra was hung huge.

R76 LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

[quote]They invited Mia to Frank's funeral, which she attended, most likely pissing off Barbara, who they disliked.

Everybody hated that cunt Barbara.

R73 it's always petite women who take the biggest dicks

Seriously, where does her $$$ come from?

R81, I wonder that, too.

Did Previn give her a big settlement or something? Maybe she got a life insurance payout on her dead kids.

Mia was a supahstah back in the day. Young folks only know her as the frump who's harassing Woody 24/7, but she was as big as they could come . The only bigger names were Natalie Wood and Liz Taylor...well the biggest was Liz of course. She was HUGE. ENORMOUS

she claims to have hated fame but if she did why did she keep marrying (and getting together with) very famous men?

And she's constantly on Instagram posting old pics from her days of big fame and her current life. She can't give up on the attention.

Mia discusses Frank with Howard Stern.

there is a ridiculous story, that Joan and Van visited the RB set while drunk and where throwned out by Polanski, and that Mia wasn't there that day and Joan mistook Rutanya Alda for her. obviously a lie. Alda is a compulsive liar, she should be gutted

Alda caught lying shamelessly. KILL HER

The Woody scandal really did a number on Mia, she seemed to have lost her mind.

THAT FATEFUL DAY

Sweets....(bitch knew how to tenderise old meat, I take note for my next sugardaddy))

Liza's been her best friend since childhood. I wonder what those two gurls talk about when they get together.

She was pissed off at Sinatra about whatever, and wacked off her long hair all by herself. Vidal Sassoon fixed up the mess she made, hence Vidal's famous pixie cut.

R92 this old bitch was there and spills the beans

[quote] Liza's been her best friend since childhood.

When they were teenagers, they stayed in NYC in Dietrich's appartment (auntie marlene had invited them to stay while she was away) and they found Marlene's old beauty products from the 30's. Some of the squeezed tubes contained cocaine in their recipes (not uncommon at the time, my own grandmother had cocaine pills boxes for headaches). These silly bitches spred the stuff on ciggies and SMOKE it

this other old bitch tells the story also. Mia lies about it

she lies about meeting with Frank, she lies about the haircut, she lies about the friendship after the divorce, she lies about the paternity, she's a compulsive liar

I suppose she lives off investments she (through a financial advisor) from all her years as a working actress. And did she get alimony from Sinatra and Previn? Anyway, I think she lives well.

Somehow Mia's accent turned from vaguely English to midwestern over the years.

Not too strange. Frank liked beautiful women, Mia was looking for a father figure. Mia admitted as much in her memoir What Falls Away, an excellent read if you can get a copy of it.Mia did not write about her role in breaking up Andre Previn's marriage.

Her Letterman interview upthread is brilliant. You can easily see how all sorts of famous men fell madly in love with her.

R100 When she starts talking about the Beatles in India, you can really hear the Woody stammer.

I like how the audience laughs when Arlene asks Mia "Did you ever perform with Frank Sinatra?"

She also fucked Roman Polanski.

I'm telling you. Frank is not Ronan's father. Frank JR, is!!!! And Mia doesn't want anyone to figure it out! It's the reason that Ronan resembles Frank, but something isn't quite lining up. When you look at Frank JR's features, it all makes sense.

Actually. Frank Jr. did father a son with a woman he did not marry, who goes by the name Michael Sinatra.

I don’t know if Frank Sr. ever acknowledged him legally, but Nancy has spoken publicly about him.

Frank JR has about FOUR illegitimate children. He was a No Condom SLUT!

this has been a very good thread - largely due to the fact it wasn't much about Woody.

and all the incredible informations I brought to it. Also, Ro looks like Sinatra because John Farrow looked like Sinatra, that and the 375 procedures of course

I don't remember who it was, someone big in the 60's, who wrote in his autobio (Niven ?) that young Mia was incredibly sexy, very attractive, and completely androgynous, not really a gurl, not really a boy = I say BI. Probably lots of filthy threesomes with Frank and Vegas whores. She also had threesomes with Woody and rando teenagers

[quote]that young Mia was incredibly sexy, very attractive, and completely androgynous, not really a gurl, not really a boy =

She never presents herself sexually. Makes clearer why she wasn't running around with the hunky young actors of the 60s who she came across on a daily basis, instead going after the types of older ugly guys mentioned here.

[quote]I say BI.

You would.

R110 I think she's VERY sexual in a "pretty baby" kind of way. Do you think Steve fucked her ?

I'd forgotten how pretty she was.

She missed the great American movie era of the 70s stuck in English countryside after Previn parked her there and ran all over the world 'conducting". He was a real square. He shrieked at his son when he found him listening to pop music. She really picked 'em.

[quote] Do you think Steve fucked her ?

Too hawt for Mia.

Interesting that she had five siblings, many who tried for an acting or modelling career, but she was the only one who cracked it.

[QUOTE] I'd forgotten how pretty she was.

How could you ever ? she was SUPER pretty

R113 I cracked all the sisters (and a few daughters too)

That's a VERY gay photo you've found, R114.

[quote] She missed the great American movie era of the 70s

She more than made up for it in the 80's and early 90's, when all her contemporaries were stepping down and she was the envy of every actress in the business

[quote]She more than made up for it in the 80's and early 90's

But it was all Woody stuff. She was offered other things but Woody told her to turn them down. She lost her currency as an independent actress and star.

[quote]she was the envy of every actress in the business

Until they found out what was really going on.

Nobody envied Mia in the '80s, she wasn't making money or winning awards. Woody paid her scale and she couldn't get work with any other half-decent director--which is why she chased down Woody in the first place because her acting career was over by the late '70s

Frank divorced Mia because she didn't even pretend to hide her extramarital affairs, most notably with John Phillips from the Mamas and the Papas. Then she stole her friend Dory Previn's husband, André, and the two of them slept around, including Mia's dalliance with the cinematographer Haskell Wexler--which is understandable, André was ugly as hell and like all classical musicians was probably a throbbing asshole.

When Mia first got together with Woody in 1980, after she wrote to him praising the film Manhattan (where Woody dates a 17-year old), she willingly participated in threesomes with Woody and other women, including 17-year old Christina "Babi" Engelhardt.

During the custody trial Mia tried to seduce Mike Nichols while trying to land a role in that movie "Wolf" (which ultimately went to Kate Nelligan) and then after the whole mess with Woody dated another neurotic misanthropic Jew, Philip Roth.

Where did you get all this "information" R119?

in the 70's she was the first american actresss ever invited to join the RSC. That's pedigree

R116 isn't she, after all, the rose of Hollywood ?

[quote] During the custody trial Mia tried to seduce Mike Nichols

that's the most ridiculous post ever. Mia and Nichols were a couple in the 70's, every one knows that, they would present themselves as "mr and mrs Nichols"

[quote]in the 70's she was the first american actresss ever invited to join the RSC. That's pedigree

She was a BIG fish in a small pond. She could do whatever she wanted in England. She was the 70s version of Gillian Anderson.

Soon-Yi said as a kid in England they never went anywhere. No movies. No plays. No trips into London. Nothing.

Oh Soon-Yi said....wasn't she supposed to be, like 4 ?

R119 you can read Christina Engelhardt's interview with the Hollywood Reporter from 2018, the autobiography of Frank Sinatra's valet, George Jacobs along with any book written about John Phillips/Mamas and the Papas, and a People magazine story on Mia from December 1979 that notes her affair--my mistake, it was with the cinematographer Sven Nykvist, not Wexler.

Soon-Yi is such a nasty little POS. no wonder her bio mother framed her head in the door and slammed it hard

from R122's link.

She never looked like a happy child - none of them did...just look at this pic!

Daddy was an asshole and momma was an alkie

Mia grew up in a degenerate household

I would have thought Woody could demand a DNA test following the Frank Sinatra paternity debacle. I believe he paid Ronan's bills (what's the correct term?) for all his growing up years.

Ronan looks absolutely nothing like Woody. Not even a faint resemblance.

Kate Hepburn spills the tea on Frank Sinatra and Mia Farrow

R132 before the surgery he did

Hepburn was a monument of hypocrisy, the Taj Mahal of hypocrites

[quote]Ronan looks absolutely nothing like Woody. Not even a faint resemblance.

I don't agree. He looks just like him here >>

No he doesn't r136.

I was very surprised to realize about half way into the Letterman interview at r48 that it occurred just after the Woody scandal. She's so charming and funny, there's no bitterness or rawness apparent there.

R138 that is called ACTING sweetie

[quote] there's no bitterness or rawness apparent there.

As I think most of us agree - she was a very good actress.

She was and is a much better actress than she's ever given credit for. her reputation was spoiled by her choices in england, but nobody could shine in drecks like "see no evil". IMO she's the most versatile of that brood (fonda/dunaway/deneuve/redgrave)

She may be "acting" with Letterman but it's really all brilliant "reacting" as he's feeding her all the opportunities for charming and adorable comebacks. She never looked better than she does in that interview.

[quote] Soon-Yi said as a kid in England they never went anywhere. No movies. No plays. No trips into London. Nothing.

Cunt. That's why i'm against adoption. Like it was worse than scrambling in dumpster to find something to eat for her whore mother in Ho-chi-min. Bitch deserves Woody

R142 I hate to break it to you but these shows are rehearsed, and Q&A approved beforehand

[quote] She never looked better than she does in that interview.

She looks so scruffy and her hair looks ridiculous...have you even seen photos of her over all the years?

But she does twinkle. She's a star, remember.

she says she never did a talk show until that Letterman (or since) - I thought most actors HAVE TO promote their films on talk shows.

One thing she's got is CHARISMA; Anyone who's ever met her in person agrees with that, even though she's NOTHING like a public persona, in private

[quote]Ava Gardner (actual quote)

It was almost certainly NOT an actual quote.

Kitty Kelley initially claimed she hired some guy named Michael Thornton to interview Ava because Ava wouldn't agree to be interviewed by Kelley, and he was the guy who got that quote from her. After the book was published and people questioned her sources, she admitted that Thornton hadn't interviewed Ava for her at all, he'd done some interview for a London magazine. The quotes (including this one) never showed up in the London magazine article.

Over the years Thornton has told the Daily Mail and other tabloids that he got Ava drunk and she "confessed all" to him but it doesn't seem likely.

[quote]I'm telling you. Frank is not Ronan's father. Frank JR, is!!!!

I was under the impression that Frank Jr was gay - based on rumors when he was kidnapped in 1963, and lack of real marriage to anyone. I don't care how many children he supposed to have had out of wedlock, or a . Rona Barrett (who was close to the Sinatra family at one point) thought that Frank Jr staged the kidnapping to get attention from his father. His father totally ignored Jr because he saw him as a weak sissy mama's boy. Rona thought Frank Sr's closeness to daughter Nancy bordered on "unnatural."

Brown-eyed Frank Jr looked more like his mother than Sinatra Sr

"I don't care how many children he supposed to have had out of wedlock, or a..." A ONE YEAR marriage when he was in his 50s.

R146, I worked on a film with Mia about 20 years ago and she didn't do any press for it, saying no one had ever asked her to do a press junket before. She was very nice and gracious about it, but her appearance on Letterman was definitely a rarity. Mia doesn't chase publicity.

R146/R151 it was very rare for a film star to appear on TV talk shows to plug a movie until the 1980s. For instance, none of the big 1970s male movie stars did Merv Griffin or the Tonight Show with the exception of Burt Reynolds - no Jack Nicholson, no Al Pacino, no Robert Redford. Women stars - no Faye Dunaway, no Barbra Streisand.

[quote] She also fucked Roman Polanski.

Where did you hear that? In Polanski's memoir he mentions nothing about an affair with Mia Farrow, and he was not shy about revealing the names of famous women he slept with. I don't believe they ever "fucked."

There's no evidence Mia Farrow ever "fucked" Steve McQueen, either. Lord knows, they were not each other's types. He was just a friend in the social circle Roman Polanski and Sharon Tate ran around in.

R153, don't you know that straight men will fuck anything? They don't wait for the hot one or the "she's my type" one.

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[quote]Rona thought Frank Sr's closeness to daughter Nancy bordered on "unnatural."

She’s a nut, but a very talented nut. A truly good actress and her memoir is brilliantly written.

R155 Having watched Match Point last night, I can’t help noticing that that young girl looks a lot like Scarlett Johansen. Remember when she was Woody’s muse for a while?

I suspect ScarJo fucked Woody during MATCH POINT.

It's pretty clear she's ruthless in terms of getting ahead. I'm no fan, but she's done quite well for herself.

True story...I was at one of the those hodge podge auctions Julien's has from time to time a few years ago, and one of the random things up for auction was a huge, wooden giraffe sculpture owned by Mia. The kicker was that the buyer had to pick it up from her estate in Bumfuck, New England. (I forget where she lives.) From my recollection, no one bid on it...either in the auction house, or online. She was also selling a few other things, but the giraffe sticks out to me.

And yes, she does post a lot on IG about the "good ol' days." Nothing about Woody, of course, but lots about Frank and the people she knew back then. It seems most of the people she knew were her parents' age; very few friends her own age.

As I recall, Mia has a house in the foothills of Connecticut. Kent or Sharon or Cornwall, someplace like that.

Frankie Jr seems like a friend of Dorothy here -

The valet's memoir mentioned above confirms that FS had an enormous pud.

her house is in Bridgewater CT, and it's not just a house, it's several houses (one of them inhabited by 1 of her bio sons) , acres of land and a pond. It's quaint and gawdjuss

R163, Frank's valet wrote in his book "Mr. S" that he had to purchase special underwear to harness Old Blue Eyes' meat and potatoes.

all these people are so repulsive. Hepburn giving lessons of morality, Sinatra the mobster, eeww

She just posted this on Instagram. I thought it was Ronan. You'll see what i mean.

R167 OMG is she really trying to jump on the genderfluid train ? that woman's thirst is REAL; THE attention whore of the century

Vintage photo of Mia and Liza

Mia and Ali modeling together

the world hasn't changed. Children of nepotism "modeling" and "landing gigs on their own merit". Mia ALWAYS humblebragging = "Liza got the better outfit " " I looked nothing like Ali"

[quote] the random things up for auction was a huge, wooden giraffe sculpture owned by Mia.

It wasn't a Giraffe, it was a lifesize sculpture of Frank's dick, that Mia used when she was horn...to decorate her bedroom

When Mia went to CA to audition for "Peyton Place", she stayed with childhood friend Tisha Sterling, daughter of Ann Sothern.

Upon arrival, Mia was surprised to see that they were now living in the very house that she grew up in and that her old bedroom was now being used as Ann Sothern's dressing room/hair salon.

R173 really ? like she didn't have their address and nobody said "we live in your old house " ? = completely fake. Try harder

Odd that ANY Magazine would photograph Liza Minnelli as a clothing model.

R163, I don't much doubt George Jacobs description of old Frank's member, but know that 50% of his book is either embellished or blatantly untrue.

For the cunt at R174, from Mia's memoir "What Falls Away".

"In September I returned to Beverly Hills to film the pilot for Peyton Place. My school friend Tisha Sterling was now living at 809 North Roxbury Drive, the house where my family had lived and where my father died. Tisha’s mother, Ann Sothern, had rented the house, furniture and all. I accepted their invitation to stay for the three weeks of rehearsal and filming, and I gave no thought to ghosts. Now, one year later, the contents of the house were eerily unchanged. Each chair and lamp and book was in its place, exactly where my parents had left them. Ms. Sothern now slept in my mother’s sorrow bed, and my old room had become a crowded beauty parlor equipped with a professional hair dryer and a big drop-backed chair, a makeup table and a mirror framed in light—Ms. Sothern was a famous television star. Tisha and I slept in my sisters’ old beds. Sometimes in the middle of the night we were awakened by the sound of the heavy Spanish dining-room chairs being moved on the wooden floor beneath us, and often I went to work in the morning exhausted."

Lovely memoir, well written.

What Falls Away is definitely one of the most eloquently written memoirs of a famous person I've read. Mia is an amazing human being.

Mia left out a few details in her memoir but that is her choice. Still an excellent read.

Mia left out a few details....like she's a bisexual whore and fucked everybody in Hollywood, including Lassie

Mia dated Mike Nichols briefly - right before she got back with Sinatra in the Spring of 1966. She mentioned this in her autobiography - but never named Nichols by name, just that his crowd, surprisingly, didn't drink much.

R182, Was that before, during or after Mike's affair with Richard Avedon?

R177 nowhere does she say she was surprised, much less very surprised...you try to show some old HW inside knowledge, and you fail, pathetically, in front of everyone here. wow. that's so epic. you know NOTHING about Mia, or HW, you probably live in a trailer park near Shitstaintown, delaware, you haven't met one single famous person in your life, not even the weather person of your local channel. and you wanted to appear witty and informed. unfortunately, like everything in your sad little life, it backfired right in your ugly face in public. Gross. Just gross.

R184 Are u okay?

LMAO

[quote] . I wonder what those two gurls talk about when they get together.

Like every woman, they talk about ONE thing= themselves

R184, I pray there is a CVS or Walgreens near you, because you're obviously in dire need of a refill of whatever meds allow you to function like a normal human being.

The entire DL community wishes you well.

God bless you.

Ronan looks like Mia. Blonde hair, same eye color, full lips...he looks like her, not like Sinatra and God knows not like Woody.

There is no way that Ronan’s dad is Woody Allen. Just compare the two.

R188 thank you, I'm feeling fine actually, I don't like to be called a cunt, especially by a frau. and I'm perfectly normal. I'm known to be a raging asshole and a cunt on wheels, and no one really cares IRL, . Privilege of hotness. I never had time to develop a good personality, I was always too busy being desired and fucked by almost everyone I 've ever met. Something else that R177, who's unfuckable, will never know.

Sinatra is not his father either, he had a vasectomy years before his birth. Mia is a pathological liar, and that's from someone who adores her

[quote] Odd that ANY Magazine would photograph Liza Minnelli as a clothing model.

Even more bizarre, that ANY film maker would photograph her as an actress.

I wonder if Mia ever smoked crack with Mike Nichols, since, apparently, that was his favorite extracurricular activity for decades… at least according to the new Mark Harris bio.

R191 = psycho, and good candidate for therapy and major, expensive MEDICATION

R195 are you CRYING ? back to Mia and Frank please, no one cares about you

Maria de Lourdes Villiers Farrow, such a beautiful name.

for a beautiful woman R197

[quote]"In September I returned to Beverly Hills to film the pilot for Peyton Place. My school friend Tisha Sterling was now living at 809 North Roxbury Drive, the house where my family had lived and where my father died.

Odd. The house is blurred out on google maps.

Too many people checking it out due to Mia's book/association?...all these years later?

see link >

Probably someone incredibly talented and famous living there, asked for some privacy

[quote]Even more bizarre, that ANY film maker would photograph her as an actress.—gurl is beyond ugly_ un-watchable

Ugly or not - she's a charming actress and person and hugely talented in her own right.

R162 looks like Ronan. Just putting that out there.

R201 To each his own, most people think she's tacky and obnoxious

What's the "Villiers" about?

Some Catholic stuff. De Villiers was some catho celeb. Farrow senior was a crazy bigot

[quote]Soon-Yi is such a nasty little POS. no wonder her bio mother framed her head in the door and slammed it hard

You're dreadful. But you made me laugh. Does that make me a bad person?

I didn't find Mia charming in the Letterman interview. At one point, I think she tells Letterman that she was "grateful like a dog" to him. WTF?

At first glance, it seems magnanimous to adopt all those children. But looking at Angelina Jolie, in retrospect, I think there's an unfillable void that Mia and Jolie are / were trying to fill.

R193 is the repulsive John Simon reincarnated.

here's her mother on Letterman - bumbling old fool.

Mia was seriously ill with polio as a child. She was removed from her family and placed in a polio ward, it's an experience that changed her.

R210 yes , it turned her into a total nympho

r143 Soon-Yi is Korean, not Vietnamese.

she's still a squinted little yelllow face piece of shit smelling like nuoc-mam, who cares ?

LOL this @R213 is the most outrageous post i've ever written in my pathetic troll life. I'm actually laughing out loud at my own post here

The experience of almost dying as a child turned Mia into a nurturer who wanted to care for neglected and sick children. She isn't a perfect Mom and there are no perfect children.

Hi Mia!

You're not amusing. Ever.

[quote]I didn't find Mia charming in the Letterman interview. At one point, I think she tells Letterman that she was "grateful like a dog" to him. WTF?

I didn't get that part. Maybe you dreamt it.

R217 you're not loved. ever. not even by your mother. you're sad.

Generations of insanity.

Mia reportedly had a fling with hunky John Leyton during the filming of "Guns at Batasi".

Why she likes to promote that she was a virgin until meeting Sinatra is puzzling.

Like Bacall was a virgin when she met Bogart, Reynolds was a virgin when she met Fischer, and so on, it's all PR. Whores, the lot

With the kids of Darfur @ link

[quote]back to Mia and Frank please, no one cares about you

R196 does that typical thing when defending it's deranged asshole self - tries to include the entire DL. It's about you, dear, no one gives a shit about you or anything you say. Maybe your mother, but I doubt it.

R196 is still a cunt.

Moving on (these fraus haven't been fucked since 1982)

^ R196

this board is so pathetic. Posters are a collection of rejects from life. Anything fun is eluding them, so condemnable. Most of you, if not all, are unattractive. It reeks of loneliness and desperation

It's hilarious that Mia went on Howard Stern's show r85 and lied about Sinatra seducing her, when years before, Ryan O'Neal r14 had told the truth about Mia seducing Sinatra.

R229 several people have witnessed the scene, confirming Ryan's version. Mia floated on the set in a see through babydoll, circling around Sinatra

R228 aka R196, then why the fuck are you here?

I like to troll fraus

Soon-Yi is a dreadful person. So is Woody Allen. No wonder they clicked. But if their affair hadn't been found out he never would have married her. She was nothing more than fuck buddy to him.

Completely unhinged creep derailed a thread for no reason at all other than it REALLY needs some fucking attention.

And yet Woody and Soon Yi's marriage lasted far longer than any of Mia's did.

Are Woody and Soon Yi's children adopted?

Of course, R236. And they're GIRLS to be "groomed."

[quote]And yet Woody and Soon Yi's marriage lasted far longer than any of Mia's did.

What do you expect? Unless she leaves, and why would she $, this marriage will last until Woody's death. He won't leave her unless there's another one waiting in the wings. He'll be 86 in December.

Even by conservative estimates, Woody Allen is worth over $140 million. (Not sure why or how people keep overlooking this fact.) Mia, by contrast, is estimated to be worth about $60 million--not even half as much.

Tell me again how I got it wrong.

I doubt Mia is worth 60 million. Considerably less.

Mia can live very comfortably from the income that 20 million produces.

Well, the one thing I’ll say about Mia is that she doesn’t go for all the glitz and materialistic showing-off. She seems to live in a very unassuming manner. If she weren’t a Catholic, I’d assume she was a WASP.

Mia walks the walk. Maybe she’s not always successful but she tries, has put in the work.

What this thread and the Sharon Tate thread taught me is that these hippie, long haired men from the 60s/70s were all a bunch of slimy, disgusting creeps.

Not particularly on topic I suppose, but my parents had them up to the house for dinner now and then when I was a kid, maybe circa mid 60s. Of course we were quite young and had no idea who they were. They were both quite gracious, lovely and friendly to my sister and I.

I guess you can never tell what goes on behind closed doors.

r245, who are "them"?

Frank and Mia?

Andre and Mia?

Maureen and John?

[quote] And yet Woody and Soon Yi's marriage lasted far longer than any of Mia's did.

Of course it has. What else can they do but be married to each other? Woody had to marry her to save face, to make it seem like he was having a genuine relationship with her instead of just wanting to pound her pussy. They have an image to protect, the image of a happily married "in love" couple. It's such a farce. Pictures of them are so hilarious; Soon-Yi is almost always blank faces and Woody always looks like he's very ill at ease.

How could Woody Allen and Soon-Yi be allowed to adopt children, GIRL children? Woody was accused of child molestation. It seems to me that even if he was not convicted of anything that alone should have kept him out of the running for adopting children forever. And Soon-Yi doesn't strike me as an ideal candidate for an adoptive parent, either. Oh well, I guess if you have enough money you can buy yourself a few babies.

In that documentary in which they travel around Europe together on some jazz tour they seemed to have a great rapport. I liked her a lot. Very dry. Very direct.

Though I am not condoning what they did to Mia (& her whole family) in any way.

R247, right. A person of Allen's wealth can BUY children, girls or boys. He likes girls more.

Title of the thread, 246.

The trouble with Mia, is that people high schoolishly feel they have to take sides with Mia and Woody and drag it into any discussion of Mia herself, even here where we're talking about her earlier life.

I've always thought that regardless of what one thinks about the Mia-Woody business, she was always pretty limited as an actress--the same waifish performance. She's the weakest thing in "Hannah and Her Sisters" even though she's the star. She's also the least interesting thing in "Rosemary's Baby". thank God Ruth Gordon steals the movie and Cassavettes seems perfectly cast as her husband. Tuesday Weld would have been terrific in the part but it probably was close to real life for her. Sandy Dennis and all her quirks also would have been a more interesting Rosemary. Mia's compulsive need to adopt is quite odd--I've worked with people like this and the foster care and adoption systems encourage this because there is a permanent shortage of suitable homes esp. for older children. Her family sounds quite mad--the alcoholic father, child molesting brother. Her marriages all seem to have involved odd pairings with father figures.

R251, you're a lunatic. Mia's performance in Rosemary's Baby is fantastic, perhaps the greatest in any horror film. Sandy Dennis as Rosemary?? You are truly insane. Mia was also wonderful in Hannah. She was luminous and underplayed perfectly, but has several powerful scenes.

R252 One of my favorite scenes in Hannah is when Mia goes over to her parents’ place to look after the alcoholic mother. Things calm down, the father starts playing “you are too beautiful“ on the piano, and there’s a close-up of Mia that is so beautiful, full of love and longing and disappointment. I rewatched the movie recently and thought what a good actress she is, shame she never got an Oscar.

Has anybody seen Woody Allen and Soon walking around uptown? The hold hands and never seemed to shy way from the public.

R251, Mia was perfection in "Rosemary's Baby".

R254, I have seen them together. She looks like his home health aide. I’ve alseen her without him and the word that popped into my head when I recognize her was “morose”. But I think she has resting bitch face.

Also my SIL was at Marymount with her and said she was very quiet but seemed smart, like “still waters run deep”.

Woody and Soon-Yi's daughters are grown now and neither one has so much as hinted that he was ever inappropriate with them. For that matter, the only accusation of that nature ever, in sixty years of public life, came from Mia and Dylan, which is highly unusual since child molesters tend to be serial offenders. Once one victim speaks out, many others come forward...except in this case. Hmm.

R252: Diane Wiest acts rings around her in "Hannah and her Sisters"--the film would have been like Interiors (not in a good way) without her. She is basically Allison McKenzie in NYC in "Rosemary's Baby". Sandy Dennis and her tics were made for the part.

Yes, the operative word for Woody is "accused." Not "convicted."

R254 I saw them together on Madison Avenue shortly after the scandal in the 90s. Woody looked like Woody, Soon-Yi looked terribly young and was wearing a little mini dress. They were indeed holding hands and politely fending off a gawker. It looked a little like the scene in Annie Hall where Alvy Singer is accosted by boorish fans.

Does Soon Yi have any relationship now with Mia and her siblings?

R258, I think you don't understand acting. Dianne Wiest has the flashier role in Hannah so you can actually see her acting. Nothing against Wiest, she's wonderful. Mia's role is more subdued. She's the supportive sister, but you can she the hurt in her eyes and she conveys the confusion of her predicament with precision. She's fantastic in the film.

Mia seems to be telling us who Hannah is (so giving.....) rather than showing us. The Wiest character has to point out her superiority because Mia is "too subtle" to show it.

Why is this a strange couple? Mia liked masculine accomplished artistic men. He surely fucked her to heaven many time with his huge dick. Plus, their bodies probably fit well together. Other than the cock, Frank was a pipsqueak. She was beautiful and young. Why wouldn't he want to enjoy her?

[quote] For that matter, the only accusation of that nature ever, in sixty years of public life, came from Mia and Dylan, which is highly unusual since child molesters tend to be serial offenders.

Not necessarily. Some pervs fixate on one child, as in the case of Mary Kay LeTourneau. She started having sex with a 13 year old child when she was 34. She couldn't keep her hands off him. But he was the only child she ever went after sexually. My guess is that Woody was the same with Dylan; he wanted HER, not a slew of little girls.

The case was thrown out by the fucking Yale-New Haven Child Sexual Abuse Clinic, not some random unqualified loons. People gloss over this all the time. The way that an incredibly reputable organization has been smeared by crazy Mia to peddle her revenge for decades is insane.

And yes, child molesters have some sort of past oddity or fixation, if not victims. Woody was into 17 year olds, which is a universe away from a prepubescent child. It's retarded how often people bring up Manhattan as "proof" he's a pedophile.

R252, R251 is the Tuesday Weld troll. He tries to disguise it by throwing other names in, but his mission is to plug Tuesday.

[quote]He (Sinatra) surely fucked her to heaven many time with his huge dick.

If only it worked that way in real life. Outside of porn that is.

It was a way for Sinatra to gain Swinging-Sixties relevancy.

And it was a way for Farrow to elevate her image.

In 1966 when that segment aired, she was still known as a TV actress.

The marriage was a win-win for both of them. It served its purpose and then was dissolved.

Yes, R257, I, too, remain on Woody’s side.

Frank turned 50 in 1965, Mia was the answer to his mid-life crisis.

[quote]Some pervs fixate on one child, as in the case of Mary Kay LeTourneau...My guess is that Woody was the same with Dylan

Female pervs are very different that male pervs. Men are more inclined to continuously look for victims in numbers. You cannot compare the two.

I didn’t think it was odd. He had a big cock, and she could take a lot of big cock. Sounds like a match to me.

[quote] Female pervs are very different that male pervs. Men are more inclined to continuously look for victims in numbers. You cannot compare the two.

Oh come on. You can't say all male pervs act one way and all female pervs act another way. Every situation is different. I think Woody Allen because besotted with the little blonde girl who was his adopted daughter, so besotted that he wanted physical intimacy with her. He definitely was fixated on her. Observers would comment on how he was always all over her showering her with physical affection and closeness. Sounds like the behavior of a perv to me.

50 back then looked much older. Brad Pitt is over 50 , appears to be more youthful.

I had no idea Mia was that famous or considered such a beauty! I have always thought of her as Woody Allen's frumpy actress girlfriend. I've never seen Rosemary's baby, just a few short snippets on tv when I was a kid.

She certainly seems to have something men respond to, I watched the Letterman clip posted earlier and he was totally into her.

You really need to do yourself a favor, r276, and watch Rosemary's Baby. Then come back here.

R267: You have no idea who I am. But in this case Weld would have been more interesting than Alison Mackenzie with the Devil's baby.

R276: I've actually watched recently. She isn't that great. If you must swoon over forgettable actresses and their performances, find someone who has dome more work in this century.

R278 and R279, you don't understand acting. You obviously need big showy, scenery-chewing.

R276, straight men love love LOVE a frail little waif who makes them feel masculine. Mia’s like a little wounded bird who needs to be rescued. They eat that shit up with a spoon. Even the “evolved” ones.

Watch the scene in Alice where, under the influence of some Chinese elixir, she flirts with Joe Mantegna. Mia knows what she’s doing.

Coincidentally, this morning I watched The Barretts of Wimpole Street on TCM starring MGM's Queen of the Lot Norma Shearer, but with Mia's mom Maureen O'Sullivan in a prominent supporting role. as her younger sister. As Elizabeth Barrett was a sheltered invalid, confined to her fainting couch, the director had everyone around her, but mostly Maureen O'Sullivan, frantically prance around Norma in the most hyper-maniacal fashion, flouncing petticoats and swishing ruffles from every dress edge to create a little energy on camera.

It was quite funny. At least it was a change for Maureen from Johnny Weissmuller and the chimp.

Mia's telephone booth scene in "Rosemary's Baby" is an acting lesson.

[quote] In fact, when the Woody Allen fiasco hit the fan Frank offered to have Woody's legs broken. I thought that was pretty cool.

Yes, threats of Mafia violence are just so, so admirable.

R278/R279 = the Tuesday Weld troll again!

Could the Tuesday Weld troll also be the troll who believes Fred Astaire was an outstanding singer?

Could the Tuesday Weld troll also be the troll who believes that Dwayne Hickman (Dobie Gillis) should have played Ratso Rizzo in Midnight Cowboy?

[quote]Mia's telephone booth scene in "Rosemary's Baby" is an acting lesson.

So was mine.

R289, Mine was first.

Ya wanna talk memorable telephone scenes?

There's also that great scene at the Reno ranch in THE WOMEN where Joan Fontaine practically fucks the phone.

Holy cow, R291: that was painful to watch. Kind of fascinating. But mostly painful.

R293, And yet, many believe that scene won her the Oscar that year.

Let's see Mia top this phone scene. Take that you anti-Tuesday Weld troll.

R295, are you saying Tuesday Weld should have played the Crawford role? HAAAAAAAA HAAAA!

R295, Aren't rabbits' faces considered cute?

R296: The only Weld troll is you.

Mia has spoken about [bold]how impressed she was[/bold] with Liza's phone scene. I wish I could find the link. You'll have to make do with this in the meantime.

Intimate Portrait was such a good show. There's a lot here for you gurls to chew on.

Mia was and is a beautiful woman inside and out.

Mia was brilliant, beautiful, and had star power. She was a fantastic actress. Still is. She still has these qualities, and remains one of the most manipulative and charming characters of her generation. She is also severely fucked up and dangerous. If you cannot see this, you’re not reading all of the evidence. Those of us who have been close to sociopaths can sense it.

^ and I care because?

R302, takes one to know one. However, I still don't believe Mia is one.

Two of my fav Frank songs were French = My Way (Comme d'habitude, Jacques Revaux, Claude François), Somewhere beyond the sea (La mer, Charles Trenet).

And Mia is a bitch

Ummm thanks. r306. but it's: MIA IS BITCH

Mia IS a bitch!!!

Mia is one of the greatest, most durable humanitarians and human rights activists of our time. If that makes her a bitch, it makes you a demon who lives in the bowels of Lindsay Graham after he was double fisted.

Ya wanna move it along Toots, aka. r308. I'm working THIS corner.

I don’t know her.

Neither do I.

R305, Beyond the Sea was a hit for Bobby Darin, not Frank Sinatra.

What r302 said.

There have been so many many threads about her - she just keeps on giving. She's a real character. But bottom line was an exceptionally good understated actress.

It's a shame she missed the 70s - stuck in England with Previn making stuff like this.

A good friend of mine lived next door to the run down house where this film was shot. They just used the house as it was. Very few people own these whole houses anymore. They were all broken up into flats now worth millions a piece.

R305 can't tell the difference between the voice of Frank Sinatra and the voice of Bobby Darin?