HOT MESS: Matthew Modine threatens to sue Fran Drescher for slander!

Joely Fisher and Mark Hamill are Team Modine

Is he a religious loon?

[quote]“I’m ashamed of Fran Drescher,” Modine said tonight during a MembershipFirst town hall meeting. “I’m disappointed. But she’ll be judged by the people in the world after she’s gone, or by whatever god she worships.”

As soon as people start bringing “god” into an argument, I can’t take them seriously anymore. Sounds very Republican-like. He’s starting to sound like he’s too emotional for the job. No wonder he lost last time.

ENTERTAINMENT LAWYER 08/17 **5**

This former A lister is paying a bot company to attack people while they run for SAG President

I would have expected more integrity from Fran

Oh please R3. Drescher was implying Modine and his supporters were racist a couple of weeks back. She even tried bringing George Floyd into it.

Meanwhile, I don't think any of Fran's co workers have endorsed her, but several have publicly endorsed Modine.

I read Modine's plan on the website & I couldn't find a single thing wrong about it.

He sounds like he has learned from the mistakes of past few presidents & will fix lots of things that are wrong or neglected.

Fran seems to be running for something to do in her senior years.

I don't even know what Drescher is running on.

WOW. "Whatever god she worships" is super coded when you're talking about a comically stereotypical Jewish person.

Wonder how that will play with the voters. Seems like an unforced error since she's not likely to win.

He will be a Diblasio-sized disaster. He is not emotionally stable enough to handle this.

He will be a de Blasio-sized disaster. He is not emotionally stable enough to handle this.

^ I wish you were stable enough to only post once.

Matt was cute when he was young. He has my vote.

She's one of those conspiritualists who tend to lean QAnon. He may have alluded to that

R8. I see antisemitism everywhere and even I think your reading is a stretch.

I enjoy the Hollywood conservatives who bemoan unions while they're members of multiple entertainment unions providing them with great health care and benefits.

I really am confused with this whole thing and finally had to throw my ballot away, becauue I couldn't make heads or tails of who I agreed with.

Wow, this could reach Celia Hodes/Doug Wilson level of campaigning.

Matthew Modine is part of the Membership First/GOP party. Fran is part of the United in Strength/DEM party.

FWIW the last time Matt ran for SAG office, a union that represents people who make their living off their appearance, he did not bother to get his missing canine tooth repaired. When brought to his attention he treated he was baffled that people noticed it. It made me wonder why he could not afford to get it fixed.

I see from the photo above he is putting a bit more effort into this round.

[quote] As soon as people start bringing “god” into an argument, I can’t take them seriously anymore.

Agree, he should stick to the fucking issues. Apparently, he is unable.

R18 not being familiar with their positions, are you saying that Modine's are more closely align to GOP principles, and Drescher Democratic principals?

That is how it appears to me. I do not think it is the official party line. MF looks like a lot older more established actors with not as many members and mostly likely will spend their efforts protecting the big earners. UFS looks more diverse with more members who make up the group known as working actors. The people whose faces you know but not their names, who don't have a team of lawyers, accountants, publicists, etc. but work a lot. They will most likely protect on set and wage issues.

R21 Thank you. An acquaintance just ran as a union delegate (I assume) and I checked his FB page and he's aligned with UFS, which makes sense given the person I know him to be. Team Fran then!

Go Fran! Kick his azz!

Apparently the whole drama is about an email she wrote where she made the point that one TV station gave more air time to Modine and his campaign than her and that was breaking the rules. And she added a link to an official article that stated the very same thing.

If I were a member, Fran would get my vote. Her and Anthony Rapp as co-chair (treasurer)? Fuck yeah. Modine comes off as a whiny douchebag in both elections (he ran against Andrea Zu ... uh, Gabrielle Carteris as well).

To someone like me (who has no connections to the entertainment industry) it's a mystery why anyone wants this job.

Does it pay a lot of money? Or is it like being President of the Teamsters - where you can take lots of Mafia bribes? Otherwise, who needs it?

In what universe were Fran Dresher and Matthew Modine A-listers?

Let the trogs slug it out. May the best bitch win.

Team Fran! Get him girl!

r26, I think the point is that any A-Lister (past or present, like can you imagine Johnny Depp campaigning for that position now that he's blacklisted?) wouldn't do this in the first place. Carteries did it, because she went after IMDB for making age discrimination easier in the casting process.

THAT’S how you come to a determination, R22?

Too bad each side doesn’t wear uniforms and you could go with your favorite colors.

If the above poster is correct asserting that Fisher and Hamill are with Modine, then I ask - Who the fuck here thinks Mark Hamill is GOP??

SAG President is a big deal. It's how Ronald Dementia Reagan got his start in elected office.

Like OP said, the last battle was between Valerie Harper vs. Melissa Gilbert (Melissa won).

It's not gonna be Jennifer Lawrence-type of actors running for president of SAG.

[quote]But she’ll be judged by the people in the world after she’s gone, or by whatever god she worships.”

This is an Anti-Semitic dog-whistle.

Sort of like the Battle of the Former Network Stars.

His butt was beautiful in the 80s.

(and damn Robert Altman for not letting him go frontal like he wanted to in Short Cuts.)

R29 the guy I know who ran as a delegate is a good person. I know his political leanings and i agree with him on those matters. He would align himself with people who are decent and working for the best for their members. I don't have a horse in this race so I don't really care. Just reading the thread, I questioned what R18 was insinuating by describing Modine and GOP and Drescher as DEM, so I asked. If my friend is aligned with one "side", which happens to be Fran's, then I expressed a hope that she wins, so that he wins.

Why does that bother you?

It doesn’t bother you the horse shit that R21 pulled out of his ass?

As though Modine and those who support him WON’T “most likely protect on set and wage issues” ?

And that Hamill, if he is a supporter of Modine, is anything resembling a proponent of the GOP?

Modine and his supporters are not like the GOP

Drescher and her supporters aren’t the only democratic contingent

Membership first (Modine's team) has apparently reached out numerous times to Drescher's team for a civil debate on the issues, and Drescher's team has ignored all their requests.

Love Fran, but I'm glad Ellen Barkin (who also supports Modine) called her out today on supporting dangerous conspiracy theories about COVID vaccines.

Whoah, they’re both awful.

There are only two choices. How can any elected establishment operate under a 2-party system? Oh.

Okay Melissa Gilbert R36.

I think R21 broke it down to old school versus new school. Perhaps the GOP and DEM labels weren't ideal though. If it's true that Drescher supported 5G/COVID conspiracies, then she's almost as nuts as Ellen Barkin.

They're both WHITE !! SAG needs more African-Americans running things. Those privileged crackers can fuck off. I think my heterosexual BLACK husband could do good things for SAG.

The choice of who to vote for is really hard. I'm suffering greatly over this.

[quote]SAG President is a big deal. It's how Ronald Dementia Reagan got his start in elected office.

Interesting, I didn’t know this.

[quote]9th and 13th President of the Screen Actors Guild

[quote]As president of the Screen Actors Guild, Reagan worked to root out alleged communist influence.

From the SAG Wikipedia entry:

[quote]The president of SAG – future United States President Ronald Reagan – also known to the FBI as Confidential Informant "T-10", testified before the committee but never publicly named names. Instead, according to an FBI memorandum in 1947: "T-10 advised Special Agent [name deleted] that he has been made a member of a committee headed by Mayer, the purpose of which is allegedly is to 'purge' the motion-picture industry of Communist party members, which committee was an outgrowth of the Thomas committee hearings in Washington and subsequent meetings ... He felt that lacking a definite stand on the part of the government, it would be very difficult for any committee of motion-picture people to conduct any type of cleansing of their own household".

[quote]Matthew Modine is part of the Membership First/GOP party

Are you sure about that, r18? Ed Asner is a member of Membership First and he's a big leftie.

R44 as is Mark Hamill, who is a big democrat, smart, and cool guy. He supports Matthew Modine - interesting.

I don't think the party lines r18 drew are accurate. I'm looking at articles here and there and finding right wingers and left wingers in both UFS and MF. Modine also seems to be a Democrat.

[quote]Matthew Modine is part of the Membership First/GOP party

You are full of shit! Matthew was one of the people who spoke out on Trump and said he should lose his membership.

Meanwhile, I don’t remember Fran Drescher ever speaking out negatively on Trump. In fact, when she was asked about his appearance on The Nanny, you could tell she was trying to be neutral about it and not say anything controversial.

[quote]I don't think the party lines [R18] drew are accurate. I'm looking at articles here and there and finding right wingers and left wingers in both UFS and MF. Modine also seems to be a Democrat.

Exactly. This isn’t about US politics.

That wretched Yvette Nicole Brown is also running on Fran’s ticket. How can we trust this Michael Jackson cultist who attacks child sexual abuse survivors? We need someone who supports victims.

[quote]Drescher was implying Modine and his supporters were racist a couple of weeks back.

I haven't been paying attention to this story, what did she specifically imply?

Modine hasn't even been vaguely interesting since he was a fuckable wrestler in Vision Quest, back when we all wanted to get our hands on Frank Jasper's big log.

Modine seems like the industry/labor favored guy. Fran, though I love her, is doing a lot of woke posturing.

It is disgustingly hypocritical for Anthony Rapp to run with Yvette Nicole Brown. So much for his activism.

Toldja!

Those two both seem like cunts. But wait, Isn't that cunt Sharon Stone also running?

She’s funeraling, R55.

[quote]Hi, I’m Sharon Stone and I am running as a Membership First National Delegate and National Board Member because I want a seat at the table at the next negotiations. I am running with Matthew Modine and Joely Fisher because, well, I love them. And I know that they’re great people and that they have your best interests at heart....

My sons, Matthew and Modine, will be voting for Matthew Modine!

Modine wanted it more, but Drescher just had more loyal backers.

However, Fran's pick as national secretary-treasurer, Anthony Rapp, lost to Joely Fisher.

[quote] This is the third split-ticket vote since SAG and AFTRA merged in 2012 and the first since 2017, when Unite for Strength’s Gabrrielle Carteris was elected president and MembershipFirst rival Jane Austin was re-elected secretary-treasurer.

r57, I'm voting for Sharon Stone. At least she's consistently baffling. The rest are all people you'd avoid at a party.

Matthew Modine was the ancient guy in Weeds, right?

His voice STILL hasn't dropped.

Poor Matthew. All Fran cares about is appearing woke while he was about actually helping people and securing good health care.

Glad that ugly cunt Anthony Rapp lost.

[quote]I don't even know what Drescher is running on.

Crack cocaine probably.

Dresher is an opportunist. Some facts: A total of 122,154 ballots were mailed. Of the total number of votes, 32,362 were returned, equating to a return of 26.49%. In the election for president, Drescher received 16,958 votes, followed by Matthew Modine with 15,371 votes. For the post of secretary-treasurer, Fisher received 18,547 votes, followed by Anthony Rapp with 13,593 votes.

Gabrielle Carteris, the previous president of SAG aftra, endorsed Fran.

And you just know that the posters, who are pro Matthew Modine, using woke in their comments are such lovely open-minded people.

[quote]. while he was about actually helping people and securing good health care.

What was his plan on securing good health care? Vincent D'Onofrio is a supporter and on Twitter he shared a story about his acting influence losing coverage. Someone asked him what was Modine's plan and he directed the person to Membership First's site but even that didn't spell out what their plan was outside of wanting someone who could give transparency from the trustees. What is the actual plan for securing good health care?

Matthew has lost two times now. He needs to stop running and stop embarrassing himself.

Okay. Fine.

First of all, Modine seems a bit unhinged. No one like that should be the president of SAG. But isn't Dresher a conspiracy theorist? And Rapp is okay with a Michael Jackson defender on the ticket? A mess.

Also: I side-eye anyone who uses "woke" as a slur. Are they calling out fake progressives or just triggered by certain social issues getting too much positive attention? But to be honest, practically every human on this planet engaging in so-called "virtue signaling" "identity politics" and "cancel culture." Just in different ways.

I don't get it. Don't you actually have to work as an actor to be in SAG?

Did Joely get along with Ellen? She seems like a tough broad with the way she describes The Franny.

So what has Fran Drescher done now that she's won?

R73, they must’ve at least tolerated each other if Ellen didn’t get her shit canned like the rest of the cast.

R74 Fran is very active these days, as she prepares for her stint on Dancing With The Stars.