Mariah / JLo sample controversy

Mariah's scrapped "Loverboy":

Mariah's Loverboy, with the last minute "Cameo" sample.

Jennifer Lopez ft. Ja Rule - I'm Real (Murder Remix)

Both of these "songs" are pig shit and make me glad I'm dead.

One is a crazy bitch who ruined her singing voice and lip syncs these days (like Britney) and the other is a straight up rude bitch who never could sing and always has her vocals mixed with that of the original demo artist and passes it off as entirely her own work.

Anything by Mariah will automatically be better than anything by Lopez, because Mariah is (or at least at one time, WAS) vocally talented. Lopez is not, nor has she ever been.

Yellow Magic Orchestra - Firecracker

“I’m Real (Remix) and Ain’t It Funny (Remix) are basically Ashanti songs. Ashanti sings the choruses to both

[quote] Meanwhile over at the new label, all hell was breaking loose because “Loverboy,” the first single off the Glitter soundtrack, was only at number two on the charts, not number one. I didn’t understand the panic around a number two single on a soundtrack for a film that wasn’t even released yet. But suffice it to say, on the heels of filming Glitter, my life and work were once again under tremendous scrutiny and pressure.

[quote] And then there was the sabotage. I had written the lyrics to “Loverboy”; the melody was tight, and it had an infectious groove. Super producer Clark Kent and I had chosen “Firecracker,” by Yellow Magic Orchestra, as the sample, and the few insiders working on the film’s production were really loving it. That did not go unnoticed by Sony executives (and spies). I had chosen the song and paid to have it used in the movie. After hearing my new song, using the same sample I used, Sony rushed to make a single for another female entertainer on their label (whom I don’t know).

They used the “Firecracker” sample and released it before “Loverboy.” Ja Rule and I wrote a song together too, and next thing you know, Tommy was calling up his manager Irv Gotti, asking him and Ja to collaborate on a duet for the same female entertainer’s record—leaving me to scurry and remake the song. Irv has even discussed it since, in an interview on Desus & Mero: “He knows we just did this shit with Mariah ... and he’s trying to fuck with Mariah.” This was sabotage, plain and simple.

Ashanti is gorgeous.

[quote] Look, I was well trained in the art of turning shit situations into fertilizer, but Tommy knew fucking with my artistic choices was particularly low. But I wouldn’t let him stop me. I switched gears and turned from the techno influence to a funkier sample from “Candy,” by Cameo (you can’t go wrong with Cameo), and Clark Kent produced it again. After we were both robbed, he saved the day with a banging track (using some remnants from “Firecracker,” which is my favorite part of the song).

[quote] We even featured Larry Blackmon (in cornrows) in a poppy sexy- kitschy video shot by my good friend, the fabulous David LaChapelle. And we had a good time despite it all. But the good times were about to turn real bad.

The August 25, 2001 charts. Janet was #1 with her big hit "Someone to Call My Lover".

J. Lo was never taken seriously as an artist (nor as an actress), she's just a glamorous celebrity and decent entertainer. Mariah was a big music star who had critically acclaimed albums, wrote a big bulk of her material and had a stellar voice. While Mariah did marry up for her career, she always had talent and she's honest about her life. In a way, Mariah owns her bitchiness. J. Lo is just a phony through and through.

I voted for Loverboy (2001 Firecracker Original Version).

I think that version would have been a bigger hit than the Cameo version.

Mariah wins with > 60% of the votes. Congrats!

Both songs are awful, but at least I'm Real has a discernible melody and isn't a messy cacophony of coos, sighs, whispers and moans over a musical background so thin, that even helium is denser.

Mariah only has herself to blame for the mess that Glitter was - the film was a collection of ridiculous Pygmalion-esque clichés that have been overexploited to death since the 1930s, and the vast majority of songs in the soundtrack were an embarrassment. Tommy Mottola only gave the final push to something that was on the edge of the abyss from the beginning.

Still, it is undeniable that once, Mariah had no match in the sales department, and possessed one of the most agile, beautiful and clear voices in record history - not to mention that she had a style that was all her own, and has influenced almost every pop singer since the 1990s. Conversely, Jennifer Lopez, is just an inexplicably oversized ego on top of two abnormally large cow hips, and one of the worst cases of undeserved hype ever.

Mariah is lucky she scrapped the Firecracker sample for the cameo one because the version with the Firecracker sample is a hot mess!

Maybe instead of sampling, BOTH of these dummies should have come up with something original and new instead of doing shit that’s already been done.

September 11, 2001.

Glitter released twenty years ago today!

I read Mariah's bio, and while it's certainly informative and interesting in certain parts, it's also completely vague in others. She's very forthcoming and brutal with growing up, but once she meets Tommy Motolla, it seems like she starts leaving certain bits of information out. I don't think she even mentioned that Tommy was married with kids when she hooked up with him.

The Glitter chapter is very interesting. She clearly had a lot on her plate at the time, and her previous label was sabotaging her. But then she seems to get vague again on what lead to her spending 9/11 in a mental hospital watching the towers fall on TV. She claims she was just tired (reminds me of that Karen Carpenter interview where she goes on about how she's just pooped) and implies that her family coerced her against her will into checking in to that hospital. But she also doesn't mention that she's bipolar in the book either.

Mariah Carey is her own lady but she somehow has kept a small bit of an innate sense of sweetness about her. JLo not soo much.

Mariah Carey is going to do a single with The Clark Sisters and she has always spoken very nicely of Karen Clark Sheard. Karen Clark Sheard could have been a great success in secular music but she stuck with gospel this whole time, her voice has aged really well and maybe she'll give Mariah some pointers.

Did Mariah Carey smoke or something? I'm truly not trying to be mean. But, her voice aged poorly. It's like she hit a wall early on and then just whisper cooed ever since the poor dear. She always had a bit of a natural huskiness to her speaking voice so I don't know if that had anything to do with it or not.

JLo has blind ambition Joan Crawford style or something, man. She's scary. She's never in on her own joke in a tongue and cheek way like Mariah Carey or even Celine Dion is

R23 Mariah's live performances are just too over-produced and she puts on this diva Dahling! shit that's quite a turn off. Like she needs to be the "Chanteuse" throughout the performance and so, she always comes off uptight. But her voice is still strong, agile and clear when she's relaxed though. Her raw vocals she did during the COVID quarantine show that she's still got it. I just wish she'd drop all that sexy diva image for once and give us the MTV Unplugged kind of a show she did early in her career. Just let loose the curls, relax and just sing, Mimi.

Mariah is the nicer of the two and definitely has more talent but is crazy. J Lo is a huge bitch. Someone once said they have the backing track on full blast whenever she decides to sing live to conceal/drown put her voice.

The channel ILoveArethaFranklin did the definitive breakdown on Mariah's voice from the beginning of her career to now. I love this guy's channel!

I really appreciated that R24 Maybe she'll go there like that with the Clark Sisters and let loose. For whatever reason I'm looking forward to that like a kid at Christmas.

JLo would never just be that free and open with one of her songs since she can't sing. Can't sing a capella if you can't, you know, sing to begin with.

I like Mariah and I thought Loverboy was somewhat slept on. But Im Real (Remix0 was a mega hit and if we are strictly talking song quality it wins for me. I know it had little to do with J. Lo herself; Ashanti could've kept the song and it still would've been a blockbuster. That Rick James groove remixed for the 2000s was irresistible and it was the #1 song in the country on 9/11.

R26, I watched that video and his video on Christina Aguilera about a week ago! I like how he breaks things down for people who don't know a lot about singing.

R22 Mariah always plays the victim and is a crybaby and everyone else is ALWAYS the problem - never her.