Michael Nader is DEAD TO ME

He was rumored to be poz.

Aww, that’s a shame.

He did great things for consumers in the 70s.

I thought he died a while ago but that was Erica's other husband, Travis.

Damn, that old broad JC is going to outlive the whole cast.

Aw man, he made me wanna go to Prague someday!

That's very sad. He was a sexy guy with a great voice.

Has anybody ever been in a coma that long? He fell off that balcony in the late eighties.

All the phallic symbols in the Dynasty intro will be lowered to half erect in his honor.

I'd always heard he was positive as well, though he denied it here.

was he family?

I think he was like a lot of the male soap stars in NYC in that era.....in the middle of a club, coked up, anything could happen.

Breathlessly awaiting a statement from Susan Dey.....

He sued that tabloid that claimed he was HIV+. There's nothing about the outcome online, so I'd assume they settled out of court.

Can you imagine that raspy voice whispering filthy things in your ear as he fucks you senseless?

Why I Won't Mourn My Dead Soap Colleagues, by Deidre Hall

TRAVIS DEAD???!!!

Larkin Malloy, who played Travis, died several years ago, R16.

This is the actor who played Dmitri Marick.

I always thought it was funny how Dex whipped both of his step-son's asses.

I'll bet Joan Collins is dancing a jig. There was no love lost between those two.

R19 I mean, fuck that old cunt. But yeah, they were not fans of one another, for sure.

Was there anybody Collins did like on the set of Dynasty?

Were they not? Why? I mean, obviously she's dreadful generally.

[quote]Was there anybody Collins did like on the set of Dynasty?

Maybe the lighting director?

Joan always seemed like a cunt to me. Michael seemed pretty nice, despite all of his personal problems.

The catfight scene between Alexis and Dex had to be one of funniest things ever on the show.

She liked Forsyth.

I thought Forsythe didn't really like her?

r24, there is so much ACTING! going on in that scene.

I can't believe Michael Nader died and we're talking about Collins.

Say what you will, the old bitch is a STAR!

Covid? I never watched a second of his soap yet always wanted to fuck him

I always wanted him and Jean le Clerc.

Nader's raspy voice and then Jean muttering dirty talk in his French accent

He had a hot ass but he couldn’t live forever.

I wish I’d had an opportunity to rim it back in the Dynasty era.

I think Joan like the two Steven's.

[quote]I think Joan like the two Steven's.

Double "oh, dear."

I remember him in the “Beach Party” movies and on “Gidget” (both of which I saw pre-“Dynasty”, but post their original releases/airings — I’m old, DL, but not THAT old!) He was such a handsome guy, and that gravelly voice he decency later — LORD!

Very sexy man. RIP Michael Nader.

I need to “Oh, Dear” myself — I meant to write, “that gravelly voice he DEVELOPED later” but somehow It came out “decency”! Sorry, DL, I guess I had visions of handsome Mike Nader in those Beach movies on my mind!

Is there anyone you *don't* want to rim, r31?

Plenty, R37.

I’m quite selective when it comes to such an activity,

And…uhhh…fuck off and mind your own goddamn business.

R17: [quote]TRAVIS DEAD???!!!

Was in response to R3.

I stil chuckle about the silly plot of Dex Dexter and Daniel Reece (Rock Hudson) being part of some secret militia group where bored rich people can play freedom fighters.

Your posting that, r38, made it everybody's business.

Did Rock tap that?

Rock was a bottom.

[quote] Was there anybody Collins did like on the set of Dynasty?

Yes. The Key Grip.

R25- you are woefully misinformed. Joan LOATHED John Forsythe, and he loathed her. She’s gone on the record many times discussing her animus. Found him sexist and rude. She famously hijacked the mic at the Golden Globes when Dynasty won Best Drama (gotta love the HFPA) and he went ham on her backstage after. I didn’t know she and Michael didn’t get along… hadn’t heard that.

When he relapsed in the late 90s, I wonder how La Looch handled that. She’s such a straight edge. They seem like an odd pair in real life.

When Oprah surprised Lucci with all of her TV husbands on her show, it appeared she snubbed Nader. She hugged everyone but him. She didn't seem to discuss him as much as some of the others or as fondly, either in interviews after he left the show. Although she's never said anything bad about him. It'll be interesting to see if she addresses his death or not.

A shame because Lucci and Nader were terrific together.

You know if you merge Lucci and Nader and drop some letters and add an F it is an anagram for Lucifer.

Joan Collins seems to have enjoyed working with him on Dynasty and liked him. Farewell, DEX!

He died of the cancer, ten days after diagnosis.

Nooooooo!!!

Oh no. I had a huge crush on him when I was a teenager. His hairy chest and husky voice made me very horny and I had many fantasies how I was in bed with him instead of those Colby cunts.

[quote] We had 18 wonderful years together with the many dogs we fostered and adopted,” said Lister. “Recently, Michael was so thrilled to reconnect with his friends from the cast of ‘Dynasty’ during Emma Samms’ virtual event to help raise funds for long-COVID research. He was a beautiful and fascinating man with many talents and skills. I will miss him forever.” Nader died in his northern California home and the cause of death was an incurable type of cancer.

[quote] Nader previously had a drug problem and came clean about it in 1984. He became sober in 1980, however, was charged with drunk driving in 1997. In 2001, he was arrested for attempting to sell cocaine to an undercover police officer, The Post reported.

R54 Joan will outlive them all!

Aquarius or Pisces?

Didn’t he have a lot of issues throughout his life? He’s lucky he made it to 76.

[quote] Was there anybody Collins did like on the set of Dynasty?

She liked John James.

Everyone seems to have liked him on that set.

[quote]Didn’t he have a lot of issues throughout his life?

Drunk driving charge while his child was in the car and he was busted for selling coke once.

Joan Collins got along well with Gordon Thompson as well

R42, Rock may have topped his Uncle, George Nader.

Not along ago, I read an interview with Gordon and he said Forsythe stormed to Aaron Spelling's office to complain when Joan posed for Playboy.

I found his picture in an old Los Angeles high school yearbook one time.

He damaged his throat because he liked to be skull-fucked.

Like some others here, I remember him from Gidget and the beach movies, not from the later soap operas. He doesn't even look like the same person as an older man. Here he is with Jody McCrea in one of the beach movies.

My sisters and I used to try to sound like him and say “Hi, I’m Dex Dexter” to much laughter.

Has Brendad Ickson commented yet? She dated him for a while back in the 1970s.

And his backside - he was so wonderfully brown!

Awww! I loved Dex Dexter!

People overreact nowadays about age difference between female actors and their male love interests but Sarah Michelle Gellar was 16-years old trying to seduce Dimitri and his son Anton. I always respected Kendall Hart for that.

Fun Trivia = Jon Erik Hexum was originally up for the role of Dex Dexter.

I loved him and Joan Collins together on Dynasty.

He was probably why I learned the word debonaire, because I thought he exemplified it as Dex Dexter. But I had the meaning incorrect. I just looked it up, and I must have had it wrong all this time. His character wasn't so "chipper." He was smooth and sophisticated, though. I think I wanted to change my name to Dexter because of him.

He learned of his cancer diagnosis ten days before he died. Horrible.

RIP.

Did Erica Kane only marry gay men?

He had rather a cubed head that reminded me of that of a Cardassian from Star Trek.

In the reunion, they explained that Dex had died from the balcony fall because Alexis had spun around in the air and used him as a landing cushion. I loved that.

[quote]He was probably why I learned the word debonaire,

Too bad you didn't learn it correctly.

he probably had an uncut dick - I think he was arrested for selling coke to a cop at Save the Robots in the East Villlage

Has Sarah Michelle Gellar responded to this news yet?

Sorry I was wrong it wasn't Save the Robots

Dex Dexter was the best thing about Dynasty. So sexy! Gave this young gayling many, many fantasies.

Oh, if only Sean Rowan opted for a surprise rim job at 0:42 ...

I remember this scared the shit out of me because I used to hang out in after-hours cocaine dives. That was a long time ago.

Joan didn't like Gordon Thompson, either. She claimed he said things in public about her that were "not nice."

She has said that she felt everyone on Dynasty disliked and resented her except for John James.

I wonder what things Gordon was supposed to have said. Anyone know?

I’m way more into Uncle George.

[quote] Joan didn't like Gordon Thompson, either. She claimed he said things in public about her that were "not nice."

Joan and Gordon Thomson got along great during "Dynasty" and remained friendly in the years afterwards

But then decades later when Gordon gave an interview where he claimed Joan was jealous of Linda Evans, she was pissed

That is when they had a falling out

This is the interview Gordon Thomson did that pissed off Joan Collins in 2017 - before they got along really well

But while Thomson and Collins “got along like a house,” she did not with John Forsythe and Linda Evans, according to Thomson.

“Joan didn’t like Linda because Linda was loved. She was a star effortlessly. Joan was at best a Grade B movie star, and she always wanted to be a huge star. She knew she was three or four on the totem pole of English brunettes, at the top of which was her friend Elizabeth Taylor.

“Joan had a wonderful sex life, marriages, and kids, and she arrived on Dynasty with a lot of résumé. Joan knew Alexis was ‘kapow’ and dug all 10 fingernails into the part and went with it. It was a big treat to watch. I was told Aaron said to her, ‘You saved my show,’ and she did.”

When Forsythe found out Collins had posed for Playboy when she turned 50, he stormed to Spelling’s office to complain, says Thomson. “I just thought how bloody good she looks, bravo!”

“Joan was jealous of Linda,” says Thomson. “Linda was not the actress Joan was and is, and was just effortlessly adored by everybody on set, off set, the public. I have never met a more sympathetic, empathic, generous, gorgeous-looking human in my life. She was miraculous, and the audience knew that.”

R87 Oh Joan needs to relax. She is way too old to hold a grudge against Gordon for that. His observations sound, btw, spot on. Linda is also a good 10 years younger. Joan was probably annoyed because it doesn’t fit her image to be envious of a doormat/underdog like Linda. But he is talking about stuff that happened 35-40 years ago. Even Olivia D. and Joan F. knew when to give it a rest.

[quote] Even Olivia D. and Joan F. knew when to give it a rest.

They didn’t actually.

Yeah, Olivia and Joan took it to their graves!

[quote]Too bad you didn't learn it correctly.

Hi asshole.

What part of "But I had the meaning incorrect"?

... did you not understand?, R76?

R79 I got kicked out of STR for doing lines in maybe 1990. It was ridiculous.

R26 when Larkin died he was teaching acting in his Park Slope Brooklyn apartment.

R76 r91 Who wants to be a debonaire? I Don't. And Go To Every Swell Affair? I Don't. Who Wants To Ride Behind A Liv'ried Chauffeur? A Liv'ried Chauffeur Do I Want? No Sir! Who Wants An Opera Box, I'll Bet? I Don't. And Sleep Through Wagner At The Met? I Don't. Who Wants To Corner Cartier's Too? I Don't. And I Don't, 'Cause All I Want Is You.

R76 r91 I was international debonaire of the decade for the 1980s

[quote] when Larkin died he was teaching acting in his Park Slope Brooklyn apartment.

His brother is a financial planner, and he invested wisely - purchasing several properties and renting it out for income

So at that point in his life, he was financially secure.

I was going to say, "He was so young!" But he wasn't. I can't believe he was almost 80. Time flies.

Alan Quartermaine and Dimitri Marick have died this year. What a sad year for ABC soaps.

Don't forget Dr. Joe Martin and General Hospital's John Reily who played Sean Donely died in January.

[quote] Alan Quartermaine and Dimitri Marick have died this year. What a sad year for ABC soaps.

[quote] Don't forget Dr. Joe Martin and General Hospital's John Reily who played Sean Donely died in January.

I can't anymore. I just can't anymore!

Jay Pickett who played Frank Scanlon on Port Charles and crossed over to GH a couple of times also died this year.

R83 It’s amazing how at almost 90 she’s never sat down and thought about how if she was disliked by so many people, maybe SHE was the problem.

r4 Nothing of course should be taken for granted but I wouldnt be shocked if she lived to 100! She has certainly outlived most of her peers and friends in showbusiness eg Elizabeth Taylor, Joan Rivers, Sean Connery, Paul Newman, Natalie Wood, Kate O'Mara, Jayne Mansfield,Debbie Reynolds, Elvis Presley, Diahann Carroll, Mary Tyler Moore, Barbara Windsor, Cilla black, Roger Moore, etc

Sadly I can see her outliving a few more celebrities younger than her like her friend Liza Minnelli.

Joan had an affair with Cloris Leachman husband - and outlived Cloris

r105 Oh yes I had forgotten about that.I take it Cloris husband or ex husband is also dead or is Joan yet to outlive him? I wonder if she will outlive her ex Warren Beatty or former costar Linda Evans?

Dex had sex with DL fave Amanda Carrington #1.

[quote]Joan had an affair with Cloris Leachman husband - and outlived Cloris

I thought it was Sue Ann Nivens who had the affair with Cloris's husband.

[quote] I was international debonaire of the decade for the 1980s

We were Angora Debs

Definitely a lot of ABC shows hit this year.

r32 I thought I read that she got on well with Heather Locklear,Emma Samms and Tracy Scoggins?

R11 HOT!

As a child i thought it was confusing his name was Dex Dexter. i assumed his character's parents had named him that, like Boutros Boutros-Ghali, or Sirhan Sirhan. It didn't occur to me "Dex" was his nickname.

[quote]As a child i thought it was confusing his name was Dex Dexter. i assumed his character's parents had named him that, like Boutros Boutros-Ghali, or Sirhan Sirhan.

Or Zsa Zsa Gabor?

Jack Coleman's tweet.

Cousin Sable says good riddance. She thought better of Michael but after this display!?

At the time of "The Colbys" spinoff, Joan Collins was asked if there would be any crossover scenes with Barbara Stanwyck. Collins said that she hoped so and added it would wonderful to work with someone who understood the acting discipline of "Old Hollywood", giving the impression that was something she and Stanwyck had in common.

When Barbara was told of this, she said to the reporter who mentioned it, "Really? Oh, I don't think we'll be working together at all." Then she gave a chuckle as though the idea was absurd.

Sarah Michelle Geller posted a screenshot of the two of them with #RIP Michael Nader in her IG Story.

R117 when Stanwyck was a cunt, she did it with class…loved her.

I totally agree, R103.

Joan Collins on Instagram:

Very sad to hear of the death of my onscreen husband and lover #michaelnader aka #dexdexter - I loved working with him and his character was a wonderful mixture of tough and tender. #alexis was crazy to keep on rejecting him! #rip #ripmichaelnader

Lucci has chimed in

Fellow soap stud John Wesley Shipp pays tribute

[quote]#alexis was crazy to keep on rejecting him

I agree completely. Alexis and Dex were perfect together. Best couple Dynasty ever had.

R67 It is Ms Brenda Dickson to you! I can count my lovers on one hand and Michael was one of them. What a fabulous man. AMC wanted to fire Lucci and bring in me in as Erica. Poor Michael hated her and loved my acting.

R125 You are NOT Brenda.

Your spelling is entirely too adequate for you to be convincing.

[quote]AMC wanted to fire Lucci and bring in me in as Erica.

Not a bad imitation with that line...

[quoite] I agree completely. Alexis and Dex were perfect together. Best couple Dynasty ever had.

He was nervous when she sang, because he knew it would drive men wild with desire!

So Joan couldn't sing, either. What is the opposite of a triple threat?

[quote] Sarah Michelle Geller posted a screenshot of the two of them with #RIP Michael Nader in her IG Story.

She got confused and posted a picture of Michael Nouri.

[quote] What is the opposite of a triple threat?

A triple hazard?

Wonder what if any stories George Nadar passed along to his nephew Michael Nader about gay Hollywood of studio system days. Up to and including Rock Hudson, who GN was very close to right up to the former's death.

Rock Hudson was on Dynasty along with Michael Nader. Mark Miller (George Nader's partner) was Mr. Hudson's personal secretary. It must have been like homecoming week..... Mark Miller inherited a sizable interest in Rock Hudson's estate as well.

That being said wonder how close George Nader and his life partner (they were together for 55 years) were to young Michael Nader. That is did MN's parents have any problem with their boy being around his gay uncle and partner. When Michael Nader began his acting career also wonder if George Nader and or Mark Miller do their best to help open doors.

The three Rock-Doris movies are on TCM today (part of Tony Randall Day.) "Pillow Talk" is on right now.

I like this picture of him with hair just a bit “messy”. I didn’t care for the way his characters were styled on Dynasty or AMC, but he looks casual and way more sexy here.

The Dex character did nothing for me. All pointless swagger. Bored me soft.

Gordon Thompson came out back in 2017 IIRC.

^ Nothing more than a deathbed confession that makes everybody roll their eyes.

Never thought Gordon Thompson was all that attractive on Dynasty or elsewhere (he pops up in a few 1970's television crime dramas).

OTOH Jack Coleman (Stephen Carrington) was another matter.

I always felt like Gordon Thomsom got cast when some of Dynasty's senior production team was still taking the show seriously. (And hadn't gotten the memo.) He was attractive but not striking and I never thought at actor who leapt out at you (on screen.) He seemed like a "we need an actor" choice, not an Aaron Spelling choice, which the show was very quickly sliding to. I feel like he was a last gasp of the Shapiros before they gave up/sold out. That was the Kathleen Beller season too. I mean, who the hell casts Kathleen Beller except people labouring under the delusion they're casting a dra-ma?

Tom Schanley sure was purty when he was young, scrubbed up and coiffured to within an inch of his life.

John James has aged into late actor George Sanders.

Gordon Thompson was quite correct, Joan Collins was never more than a "B" actress known more for her figure/looks and sexual escapades than anything else.

Yes, she got work, but again JC was an attractive (then) young woman who was stacked. Ms. Collins was basically a jobbing actress who usually took what was on offer.

Dynasty was the making of Joan Collins IMHO. Until that event hardly anyone in USA at least knew her from Eve.

R114 Or Bam Bam Flintstone

R144

That would be "Bam Bam Rubble", son of Barney and Betty Rubble....

You have to wonder what Joan Collins looks like first thing in morning without all that slap on her face, and wearing a wig.

Joan's eyes are too far apart. It became even more obvious as she got older.

R75 "Dex didn't fare too well" is all we were told about his condition. Haha.

Alexis is a killer when she goes down on you.

R133 I don’t think they mingled much. I have never seen a photo of them together and unless it was mentioned as a point of trivia, I never saw Michael listed as one of George’s survivors in his 2002 obits. Even the LA Times only mentions survivors as Mark Miller and “three cousins.”

Michael’s father left the family when he was a baby and his mother, Minette, relocated them from St. Louis to California. I’m not even sure if Minette was George’s sister, or sister-in-law, but I suspect the latter. Regardless, it would not have escaped them that George Nader was a movie star with a Universal contract. Universal did a huge amount of publicity for their stars and really had the hottest men and women under contract for quite a run in the 1950s.

As for George, he had a bad accident in 1970 which damaged his eyes and pretty much ended his waning career. I think Rock was extremely generous to them.

R145 Ha! That is right, it’s been a while.

I read Joan's second book. I was surprised that she was married to an exec at Apple (Alan Klein?), and was on the roof for the last performance of the Beatles. He ripped her off.

[quote]Joan's eyes are too far apart. It became even more obvious as she got older.

Nonsense! There's no such thing!

R150

By all accounts George Nader and his partner Mark Miller were closest thing Rock Hudson had to family for much of his adult life. MM of course became Rock Hudson's personal secretary, and the couple remained very close to RH and staunch allies right up to his death from HIV/AIDs related causes.

The first alone was reason enough for Rock Hudson to leave Mark Miller a sizable legacy from his estate.

George Nader and Mark Miller were comfortable with being gay and quite happy with their sexuality and being a couple. When studio sat GN down and told him to put Mark Miller away or his career would be over, he pulled a Billy Haines and told them to fuck off. Rock Hudson probably appreciated the sort of steady influence close gay friends like that gave.

Of course by time his diagnoses was made public knowledge and people were either abandoning Rock Hudson, or at least keeping him at a distance, George Nader and his partner never waivered. Have to give them much credit for such dedication.

Dex impregnated Sable just before he died. What happened to the baby? Remember Sable revealed that the twins, Monica and Miles, were conceived by rape? Who was their biological father???

Brendad Ickson came through with a steamy photo and this post on IG. She must truly be bereft, as she didn't include her usual dozen emojis.

"My friend Mike Nader has passed onto the heavens. I am suprized to hear of his passing. He was a great actor. And always a good friend to people he worked with. This is a Photo from my book "My True Hidden Hollywood Story. " We did a play at the Beverly Hills playhouse. Which Tennessee Williams was involved in. Directed by Clyde Ventura. RIP Mike Nader."

Rumor has it Susan Dey may be issuing a statement soon.

Michael Nader was a sexy MF. He made me think impure thoughts.

Typical Brendad that she plugged her book in her tribute. I’m surprised she didn’t mention that he plugged her. She’s classy like that.

WTF is this name "Brendad"? Is it a DL in-joke? Have I missed something? Is "Brendad" a real bitch or what?

Spock was right when he said firmly, "Joan Collins must die."

Or was that "Edith Keeler must die."....

Why it’s the fabulous former star of the Young and the Restless, lover of Gelson’s potato salad and all things glam, R160

I don’t remember if Brendad Ickson came about as a result of a typo by a poster, or if the diva herself was on the hunt for detractors and having threads removed.

George AND Michael Nader were hot. That family had some good genes

R163

That's because they were part lesbian...

Oh wait, make that Lebanese

[quote] when Larkin died he was teaching acting in his Park Slope Brooklyn apartment.

You mean he died in the middle of a class? Now that is method acting.

Gay Gay Gay

[quote]"We did a play at the Beverly Hills playhouse. Which Tennessee Williams was involved in."

Involved in? As in he sent Brendad a cease-and-desist letter?

[quote]WTF is this name "Brendad"? Is it a DL in-joke? Have I missed something? Is "Brendad" a real bitch or what?

Well, Hello r160. I envate yu to git to no my fabuolous life and karear.

Also hope yu don't git Covet.

Poor Michael Nader... this is his last thread on this earth and all anybody wants to talk about is Brendad Ickson, Joan Collins and who fathered Sable's rape babies.

Agreed, R169. We should be talking about things that mattered to Michael. Like cocaine and the HIV

He wore a towel well.

Was he any relation to George Nader?

Back to me, bitches

He was George’s nephew R172

Is this Nader's nadir?

R173, At least she didn't say anything unkind. After John Forsythe died, Joan told Andy Cohen that he had the worst breath of any actor she ever worked with.

Michael Nader was arrested at Save The Robots club back in 2001. Recall reading it in NYT at the time and thinking "he's still around"?

NYC's "war on drugs" in clubs that was launched in wake of 1996 drama involving Michael Alig carried on well into early 2000's. Using nuisance abatement and other laws NYPD was raiding this or that club every week it seemed. Gay. trans and other non-mainstream places seemed to be be prime targets.

NYPD has a press office where among other things details are released of those arrested. Heaven help you if you're anyone remotely famous, are employed at some place well known, etc.... NYPD will feed your arrest to media all in good name of it being public information.

Dimitri was by far my favorite of Erica’s husbands. I loved the Wildwind years with La Lucci, SMG, John Callahan, Eva LaRue, and Sydney Penny.

I met Michael once outside the AMC studios. He was very pleasant to this Midwestern teenaged fan.

About twenty people were arrested same time as Michael Nader, but really only his name made headlines.

NYPD's press department would have people believe it's all just matter of public information, but they have other motives. Especially when it came or comes to things like drugs, sex, prostitution, etc...

R156 “Which Tennessee Williams was involved in.” Involved in. She’s such an idiot.

R42 et al

By time Rock Hudson arrived on Dynasty he was already ill from HIV/AIDS though no one yet knew exactly what was wrong. He always had problems remembering lines so use of cue cards wasn't first give away, but it was clear Rock Hudson wasn't well. His character was supposed to run as a reoccurring one, but lasted about one year before RH left Dynasty.

Thus think by that time RH wasn't interested in tapping Michael Nader's ass. More to point as we've been discussing Mark Miller, partner of Michael Nader's uncle George Nader was not only great friends with RH, but his personal secretary. George Nader may or may not have been close to his nephew at that time, but am sure one or both would have warned RH off. Not because of the illness you understand, but because Michael Nader gave no indication of swinging that way at all.

R181, Rock was into young, athletic, blond men, nothing like Michael Nader.

Dominique Devereux bit the dust two years ago. Now Dex Dexter this year. Who's next? Lindsay Blaisdel? 😭

I can't see ANY resemblance between '60s Michael Nader and soap opera Michael Nader. Other than the same coloring. He sure changed - or it's really two different guys.

R72

Details are few, but apparently type of cancer that caused Michael Nader's demise was incurable. Thus it may have not mattered how far in advance he got the diagnosis, poor unfortunate soul.....

It's like something out of those old Hollywood films were a doctor just sends his patient home saying "nothing is wrong." or otherwise keeping true nature of their mortal illness from them.

Oh, she died in the Peruvian jungle forty years ago!

R184

Michael Nader lead a very rough life, that will cause many people's appearance to change more than it otherwise should as they get older. Drugs, booze.... MN did all that and more before getting himself sorted out.

R185, A friend of mine was diagnosed with aggressive cancer of the bladder and died ten(10) days later.

George Nader and Cloris Leachman in an Alfred Hitchcock Presents drama titled "Where Beauty Lies".

Rock Hudson was in horrible shape when he appeared on Dynasty. They had to apply lots of filler to cover up the crags and conceal the deep lines in his face. They did a great job making him presentable for the cameras. The Dynasty make-up artists were masters at their craft. Rock was also a chain-smoker and reeked of tobacco. His breath was dreadful, how did Linda manage to kiss him.

R190, She'd been married to John Derek, also a heavy smoker.

Loved him in the Nick Knight TV pilot with Rick Springfield.

I didn't know he did a bunch of Frankie & Annette beach movies in the 60s! I had no idea his career went back that far.

He was hot. Too bad he got into drugs. RIP.

[quote]Rock Hudson was in horrible shape when he appeared on Dynasty. They had to apply lots of filler to cover up the crags and conceal the deep lines in his face

George Nader knew that RH had AIDS. Did George's nephew Michael Nader, know about it ?

r154 Is Mark Miller still alive?

Miller died in 2015, R194.

r183 Linda Evans possibly? Richard or Esther Shapiro.Heather Locklear would be an outside possibility.

r195 Thank you.

R193

Both Mark Miller and his partner George Nader knew of Rock Hudson's HIV status. Everyone was going into a tizzy because Rock had to kiss Linda Evans and there wasn't a way out. No one also bothered to tell Rock Hudson's then lover Marc Christian either. George Nader and others felt Mr. Christian couldn't be trusted and might become a loose cannon.

IIRC cast of Dynasty, Aaron Spelling, et al all found out same way rest of world did; when RH made that press announcement from a hospital in France.

This guy wasn’t interesting enough to fill up a single thread without bringing in Joan and Rock?

I had at least 5 threads on DL when I croaked.

r177 I too remember reading that piece and being shocked it was Nader ("is that...Dex Dexter?")

But that was not Save the Robots. STR was on Avenue B and it was only illegal for a hot minute in the mid 80s, before they got a license. The club Nader was arrested in could have been one of illegal after hours speakeasies that popped up from time to time. They usually had no sign outside and you just heard about them. They might have even "borrowed" the Robot name for some residual brand recognition although by the mid 1990s STR was closed permanently.

The last time I was there was in '91 or '92. A friend and I were followed around by a bouncer who treated us like we were 10 year old shoplifters in a toy store. We wanted to find a corner to do some blow because that was supposed to be the place to do it. He kept following us around and literally wagging his finger. There had been too much infamy in the press about Robots and it was on the NYPD's radar.

Nader's arrest was in early 2001 and the address cited was 310 East Second Street...very close to original Robots. By early 2001 the East Village was in the throes of gentrification. Between that and the post-Alig busts you mention, it seemed particularly boneheaded to sell bags of coke in a club.

I found his speaking voice annoying, like Cameron Mathison's.

For some reason, when I hear someone has died before 80, it strikes me as having died a bit early.

This was an interesting article in “Vanity Fair” (from its much-missed pre-Woke days) that features Mike Nader

I googled Michael Nader to see what he looked like in recent years and he was still so handsome.

r201 Oh I adored it!

lolol

Why wasn't Adam charged with manslaughter in the Reunion since we assume Dex died. He was the one that pushed him into the balcony. Luckily Alexis bounced off her hair in the fall. She says Dex cushioned her drop but we know the truth,

"The actor, Michael Nader, was arrested about 6 a.m. in the club, at 310 East Second Street, and charged with felony drug sale after detectives made undercover drug purchases there, the police said."

Guess you are correct.

Showing how much EV has gentrified, 310 East Second Street long ago was torn down and new upscale high rise multi-family was built.

Tidbit....

Talk show host Craig Ferguson once worked as a bouncer at Save The Robots...

R208 “Guess you are correct.” I would imagine you are probably accustomed to the typical DLer, as in a casual approach to facts and embrace of the concept that wanting something badly enough means you can state that it is true in a post, such as “[insert name of male actor] is definitely gay,” but you’re dealing with me now.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

John Derek sure was purty!

Those eyes....

R117

That's odd, because everything one has read said Joan Collins expressely and firmly refused to appear on or be involved with "The Colbys".

Since we've opened up that can of worms, a bit of trivia.

Barbara Stanwyck originally came out of retirement to do season one, and six or seven episodes in season two. By end of season one however fed up with how her character Constance Colby was developing and the show itself the great Barbara Stanwyck demanded and obtained release from The Colbys. She famously called the series "a turkey" and "The biggest pile of garbage I ever did". When you consider Ms. Stanwyck's long career, that's saying something.

Ms. Stanwyck also demanded that her character be killed off so there wasn't a chance Constance Colby could return. At end of season one "Connie" (as Sable liked to refer to her MIL), was off on a world cruise somewhere.

Faye Dunaway was originally offered the role of Sable Colby (eventually played by Stephanie Beacham), but her high salary demands shut down negotiations. Later, Diana Rigg and Susannah York also turned the role down. Would have liked to see what Diana Rigg would have done with Sable Colby. That would have been interesting television.

Barbara Stanwyck famously also called The Colbys "vulgar". Stephanie Beacham referred to it as a load of "cobblers".

Kate O'Mara (another great British actress who does bitch so well) auditioned for a role of Sable Colby, but ended up on Dynasty as sister of Alexis Morrell Carrington Colby Dexter...

R214 Yeah, Joan HATED The Colbys, and at the time said she would never appear on it. Her and Linda Evans were both missing at Fallon and Jeff's wedding on The Colbys.

Joan felt that the Shapiros leaving Dynasty for The Colbys led to the decline of the former.

Dynasty at first was very entertaining, whole "go-go 1980's" Ronald and Nancy Reagan in WH years and all that. But even that show was wearing thin, and introduction of "The Colbys" was just piling on. It was nothing more than vulgar "lifestyles of the rich and famous" trash with a healthy helping of how wealthy white men (and their wives) run (or ran) this country.

As wont to happen with high rated television shows everyone thought Dynasty (number one in ratings at the time) should have and could carry a spin off, so there you are.

You have to wonder what the Carringtons and Colbys would make of who has bucket loads of money today. Big Tech Bros like Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg and the rest could by and sell Blake Carrington, and get change back.

R215, "Her and Linda Evans..."???! Seriously? Do you talk like that? GTFOOH

Barbara Stanwyck was best thing on The Colbys. She may have been an old broad from another era in Hollywood, but she dominated every scene she was in, leaving others in the shade.

[quote]Barbara Stanwyck was best thing on The Colbys. She may have been an old broad from another era in Hollywood, but she dominated every scene she was in, leaving others in the shade.

She brought a lot of old-school gravitas to the show, but I would argue that Stephanie Beacham was The Colbys' secret weapon.

r219 WOW Barbara Stanwyck was bloody divine in that scene.Fantastic!

R221, Agreed, but it's sad to see that she had to lean on furniture for support throughout the brief scene.

Each episode of "The Colbys" cost $1 million (USD) to produce. Ms. Stanwyck received $75k per episode, and Charlton Heston $85k per.. One wonders if it was the money that lured Barbara Stanwyck out of retirement. In any event it wasn't enough to keep her around, so guess that old adage about not paying someone enough to do something rang true.

Cost of producing The Colbys series was one of reasons the series got the hook.

[quote] Ms. Stanwyck received $75k per episode, and Charlton Heston $85k per.

Amateurs

Stanwyck's scenes w/ Stephanie Beacham were the best thing about The Colbys -- Maxwell Caufield's chest being a close 2nd. Supposedly Beacham and "Missy" got along quite well and were pals.

Stanwyck was indeed excellent in that scene at R219, but I also noticed her holding onto the furniture.

Getting back to Mike Nader, he had something of a gap in in his credits between the AIP movies of the sixties and the late-1970s. Wonder what he did between those years (aside from appearing onstage with DL icon Brendad Ickson looking fine!)

r226 He was a kept man possibly?

R203, it was always liberal-leaning, so take your right-wing "I hate woke people" talking points and shove them up your ass

he´ll be missed

chiropodist

“Woke” is not the same as “liberal leaning,” r228. I’m liberal but reject woke insanity.

Thanks for the defense, R230 —I’m the poster who linked the “VF” article and mentioned its “woke” state, apparently triggering R228.

Didn’t think I’d have to prove my credentials on a thread about a hunky actor, but I am indeed thoroughly liberal. Nor did I think I’d have to point out the difference between the once-liberal-leaning magazine with the direction it took under the leadership of Radhika Jones, but I’m glad you noticed, R230!

John Forsythe was another actor who wouldn't have had a career if not for television. Went from being basically a "B" actor in few film roles to major "star" if you will in the new medium.

Still have to give it to JF, he was a native New Yorker (born and raised in Brooklyn), and graduated from Abraham Lincoln High School.

His alma mater produced a long list of famous alumni including Leona Helmsley, Marv Albert, Elizabeth Holtzman, Harvey Keitel, Arthur Miller, Irving Penn, Buddy Rich and Louis Gossett Jr. among others...

Speaking of Erica Kane gay exes = the hot Michael Woods died last winter. He starred on Bare Essence (with Michael Nader). Clip of Michael Woods on AMC--he played Kent Bogarde.

[quote]Speaking of Erica Kane gay exes = the hot Michael Woods died last winter.

What's your source about Michael Woods' death. I can't find anything on the web.

He was alive in late April when he did a Guiding Light reunion for the Locher Room.

R235 = whoops. He got better? I honestly thought he died last December? I thought I read it here.

Michael Woods is alive, well and sends is warmest regards.

Lee Godart is alive too.

R218 what’s wrong? He talks English real good.

Sean Kanan has Tweeted his condolences....

Anyone remember Anton (Dimitris Son on AMC) who was played by the male model?. CLIP..Geez he was an awful actor. But the long hair was hot. Then he cut it off.Ugh..

Part of Beverly Leslie on W&G we all know was played by Leslie Jordan. Joan Collins was originally cast to play the role of Karen Walker's arch enemy. However she refused to have her wig torn off during that fight between Karen and Beverly, so that was that.

See linked clip at 8:40..

Now that one thinks about it someone should snatch one of those wigs off Ms. Collin's head. It would be a hoot.

Michael Woods = Beverly Archer 2.0

[quote]Anyone remember Anton (Dimitris Son on AMC) who was played by the male model

Rudolf Martin. He posted about Nader's passing.

RIP Michael Nader ! I was fortunate to play his son for 2 years on "All My Children" in New York in the 90s. He was already an icon to me (Dex Dexter on Dynasty) but so very kind and welcoming for which I was grateful. I mostly remember his love for dogs and his humor, it was often hard to keep a straight face when working with him. Later he rented my old apartment on 10th street as I moved within the same building and so we were friends and neighbors for a while. This photo is from that time. After I moved to LA we lost touch. I will always remember him fondly. Condolences to his family.

I'd never heard of Rudolf Martin, but he's beautiful - wonderful smile!

[quote]Dominique Devereux bit the dust two years ago. Now Dex Dexter this year. Who's next? Lindsay Blaisdel?

Geoffrey Scott (Mark Jennings) died in March.

R226 That is the Bell family disinformation agent again. The one who hacked into my twitter account and misspelled all those words. My name is Brenda Dickson ,the creator of reality TV, soap legend and former lover of Michael Nader. Who said that I was a much better actress than Joan Collins and a much better kisser than Susan Lucci.

Michael Nader was so cute on Gidget, hot on Dynasty, and sexy as Dimitri on AMC.

Loved when Dimitri rescued Natalie from the well. Nader and Kate Collins were great together and could have been a long running couple, but the fans wanted her with the disgusting James Kiberd. It worked out for Lucci, as she and Nader were also great together and Dimitri was really Erica’s best husband.

On the short lived AMC Hulu reboot, they paired him with Julia Barr, and it was a good fit. Two older pros who knew how to play a scene.

Damn, I miss AMC.

R241, what in the hell does your post have to do with this thread?

R249 = As a DataLounger, I felt obligated to somehow tie this thread to a male model. Thankfully I succeeded. It is clearly written in the DL Rule Book. Chapter 7 (Rules and Procedures Regarding Male Model References). Paragraph 5C. You must be new?........And no I am not "stupid" because YOU decided I am. LoL------->>>R241...

Can't believe those fuckers left him out of the Emmy In Memoriam.

If Stuart Damon who played Alan Quartermaine on GH forever and Ray McDonnell who played Dr. Joe Martin on AMC for an eternity were left out, they sure in hell wasn't going to include Nader.

I thought Nader would be included, considering he was a main cast member in one of the most popular primetime series from the 80s. Then again, they also didn't bother to include one of Charlie's Angels.

r251 Shameful. The Oscars have increasingly been poor and inept in their memorial section too.

The Emmys left both Julie Rogers AND Dex Dexter out of the death roll? Ridiculous.

I'm still alive you asshole!

Get it, Sally!

Sally Field is such a cutie 😍

R252, etc., NO ONE under the age of 40 knows or cares about them. That's why they weren't included.

R246, Geoffrey Scott was STRAIGHT? I had always heard he was gay? Was that just a rumor?

R260 - Yes, just a rumor. Unrelatedly, hundreds of men owe Geoffrey a big apology.