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Gay British porn star Josh Moore we wouldn't have gay rights if it wasn't for black trans sex workers

Is he right? He makes the comment in a rant about the Onlyfans issue and some gay mens reaction to the subsequent plight of sex workers.

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by Anonymousreply 83August 29, 2021 10:32 AM

The fight for civil rights with black people opened doors for others. Yes.

Gays forget they’re an oppressed group throughout most of this world. Many states in the USA still have laws where discrimination against them is legal.

Yet gays walk around like they’re above others, especially blacks.

by Anonymousreply 1August 22, 2021 2:25 PM

This ignorant child does not know gay history. At all.

by Anonymousreply 2August 22, 2021 2:26 PM

He works in porn.

They can have each other.

by Anonymousreply 3August 22, 2021 2:27 PM

As I've mentioned elsewhere, I knew one gay white male who canceled his Instagram account "to give more space to T's and gays of color." (Not a joke)

by Anonymousreply 4August 22, 2021 2:28 PM

r1 So whilst preaching about rights and discrimination you are making sweeping generalisations about gays??

Not to mention massive oversimplification.

by Anonymousreply 5August 22, 2021 2:41 PM

r4 Crazy

by Anonymousreply 6August 22, 2021 2:42 PM

We wouldn't have gay rights if it wasn't for black trans sex workers?

Tell that to Del and Phyllis and Jose and Allen and Barbara.

by Anonymousreply 7August 22, 2021 2:43 PM

When I am looking for an insightful and knowledgeable historian, I always first turn to the world of gay porn stars.

by Anonymousreply 8August 22, 2021 2:45 PM

On a less serious note are my eyes deceiving me or has Josh gone very strong with facial fillers?

by Anonymousreply 9August 22, 2021 2:46 PM

It's important to pay attention to anyone who employs a filter for their camerawork.

by Anonymousreply 10August 22, 2021 3:03 PM

Oh, if this were the only thing Black trans sex workers had given the UK, but it doesn't begin to scratch the surface: Parliamentary procedure.The Industrial Revolution. Fish and chips. Chicken tikka masala. Savile Row tailoring. The English Country House. Georgian architecture. Tom Jones. Thackeray. Dickens. Pneumatic tyres. Quaint village murder mysteries. D.I. Jane Tennison. Sherlock Holmes. Watson. Darwin. That Bucket woman. Automated Teller Machines. Steam engines. Power looms. Dolly the cloned sheep. Walker's Pure Butter Shortbread. And on and on, all of them Black trans sex workers or developed by Black trans sex workers for the good of humanity.

by Anonymousreply 11August 22, 2021 3:34 PM

Everyone loves to shit on the gays.

Especially the gays themselves.

Crazy and sad.

by Anonymousreply 12August 22, 2021 3:35 PM

Well at least he is not a trumptard porn star

by Anonymousreply 13August 22, 2021 3:36 PM

This guy obviously doesn't know what he's talking about

by Anonymousreply 14August 22, 2021 4:12 PM

An uninformed porn performer?

Could it be???

by Anonymousreply 15August 22, 2021 4:18 PM

You can lead a whore to culture, but you can't make him think. Critically.

by Anonymousreply 16August 22, 2021 4:21 PM

Is Eric Cervini one of his johns?

by Anonymousreply 17August 22, 2021 4:23 PM

Does he have a 1-gallon container of face paint on? Or is he just that shiny?

by Anonymousreply 18August 22, 2021 4:32 PM

He's a whore, darling!

by Anonymousreply 19August 22, 2021 4:35 PM

A dumb whore.

by Anonymousreply 20August 22, 2021 4:37 PM

Shut Up And Fuck.

by Anonymousreply 21August 22, 2021 4:44 PM

I’m black and I guess he just want to let off some crazy talk in lieu of the impending ban.

Sometimes personal feelings should be kept to oneself. The whole world knows of its injustices. No need to rant about it cause you mad dear.

Don’t talk about it be about it.

by Anonymousreply 22August 22, 2021 4:44 PM

British people need to shut up.

by Anonymousreply 23August 22, 2021 4:45 PM

From a British perspective if any other minority group who should be thanked for their contribution to enshrining gay rights in law it’s Jews.

It was Jewish politicians who introduced the laws that decriminalised homosexuality and attempted to equalise the age of consent, ultimately lowering it.

by Anonymousreply 24August 22, 2021 4:52 PM

he's right, and gay life was way more funny and exciting before "gay rights", . I blame the trans women of color for ruining it all

by Anonymousreply 25August 22, 2021 4:56 PM

Josh Moore gangbang by JOSH MOORE PRODUCTION. My, we're fancy

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by Anonymousreply 26August 22, 2021 5:01 PM

Not a very inclusive gang bang, I must say.

by Anonymousreply 27August 22, 2021 5:07 PM

we also have " josh Moore sucks Everyone's dick" here

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by Anonymousreply 28August 22, 2021 5:09 PM

How many gang bangs has Josh Moore filmed with black trans sex workers? ZERO! Why? Because he's a white supremacist with a genital preference.

by Anonymousreply 29August 22, 2021 5:11 PM

Don't bogart all the cock, Josh.

by Anonymousreply 30August 22, 2021 5:18 PM

r17 I'm going to Google him now!!

I know Josh had a big falling out with Michael Lucas.

by Anonymousreply 31August 22, 2021 5:29 PM

he has AN onlyfans

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by Anonymousreply 32August 22, 2021 5:31 PM

Black people would still be slaves if it were not for gay white men.

by Anonymousreply 33August 22, 2021 5:34 PM

[quote] Because he's a white supremacist with a genital preference.

“Genital preference” is the new “shut up f——t.”

by Anonymousreply 34August 22, 2021 5:35 PM

R1, I'm sure you're just being a divisive troll, but that statement isn't even remotely accurate. Gay rights organisations have been documented as far back as the late 19th century, and that was way before Civil Rights even took off. Gay people weren't just sitting on their butts doing nothing. The sexual revolution of the 60s had a big impact on the changing attitudes towards sexuality and liberation.

by Anonymousreply 35August 22, 2021 5:36 PM

[quote] Everyone loves to shit on the gays.

But enough about my sex life.

by Anonymousreply 36August 22, 2021 5:39 PM

"YOU STUPID IGNORANT FUCKS", said the stupid, ignorant fuck who knows fuck all about history.

by Anonymousreply 37August 22, 2021 5:46 PM

R14 there's a reason people stuff up his mouth.

by Anonymousreply 38August 22, 2021 5:48 PM

They have been there with us in every fight for our rights. I won’t fall into the right-wing trap that so many on this forum are.

by Anonymousreply 39August 22, 2021 5:52 PM

How many times has "threw the first brick" been debunked now? It's beyond embarrassing that they still trot that line out.

by Anonymousreply 40August 22, 2021 5:55 PM

Marsha P. Johnson was the first to suck cock and present hole on camera

by Anonymousreply 41August 22, 2021 5:56 PM

[quote]They have been there with us in every fight for our rights.

"They?" Who are "they," R40?

by Anonymousreply 42August 22, 2021 5:56 PM

The ones who led open, uncloseted lives, which include black trans sex workers, and millions of other men and women down the decades, are responsible for the current state of gay rights.

OP: stop stirring the shit.

by Anonymousreply 43August 22, 2021 5:59 PM

R43

Exactly!

by Anonymousreply 44August 22, 2021 6:01 PM

I don’t know why so many white gays on this forum avoid black gay and trans history.

Things like the ballroom culture, which is predominantly black, really helped struggling gay men. But they completely avoid it.

by Anonymousreply 45August 22, 2021 6:04 PM

I haven't read, nor listened to ANY of these proclamations insisting that black transwhatevers are the reason why we have gay rights today. The questions I have are:

1. Do any of them give EVIDENCE for their statements, or do they just spew a talking point?

2. Do any of them cite sources if they do have evidence?

3. If they do have evidence with credible sources, then they should have NAMES...lots of NAMES of (insert group) black trans sex workers that have done THE WORK & are credited with helping PASS gay rights legislation ! WHO ARE THEY? WHAT ARE THEIR NAMES????

Do you know what group, undoubtedly, HAS all three of the above? GAY...WHITE...MALES.

WHY?

Out of the Alphabet Mafia, gay-white-males, BY A WIDE MARGIN, have had more money, power, influence & members than ALL of the other groups COMBINED, including lesbians. Just by sheer numbers, gay white men outnumber black trans sex workers (btsw) probably 1000 to 1. Why the fuck do people think that btsw had or have all this power and influence? Blacks never had any power of influence in our society because of racism. You then expect us to believe that a person who is not only BLACK, but TRANS and a SEX WORKER was in a position to change history? GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE!

by Anonymousreply 46August 22, 2021 6:05 PM

r43 You'd be better of telling people like Josh Moore not to pedal untruths and myths or distortions as this is unhelpful in the long run and helps our enemies. That's why he needs to be challenged. Saying effectively the left can be careless with facts but we mustn't challenge or fact check that because it helps our enemies is to get the equation and formula the back to front wrong way around .If more people challenged it earlier on this myth wouldn't be so commonplace. He has misrepresented the facts of the situation, they had a role as in they were part of the team effort but to single them out as we wouldn't have gay rights if it wasn't for them is flat out untrue or hyperbole. It was a group team effort.

by Anonymousreply 47August 22, 2021 6:15 PM

R45

And look at the disco and dance movement, spearheaded especially by black gay people and black women.

Now, mainstream dance music is overrun with straight white guys.

by Anonymousreply 48August 22, 2021 6:21 PM

“I start this thread by some mens somewhere to make a big hate on Tranny. Gay make a good hate on black tranny. I make a good hate on tranny and black get bonus of young slut with 4 disease and goat to ride to market.”

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by Anonymousreply 49August 22, 2021 6:22 PM

Nobody hates trannies. But this wholesale cultural appropriation of gay history and reassigning it all to a small segment of the movement is not to be tolerated.

by Anonymousreply 50August 22, 2021 6:43 PM

He's an obnoxious crackhead looking for attention.

by Anonymousreply 51August 22, 2021 7:46 PM

[quote]I know Josh had a big falling out with Michael Lucas.

Michael found out that Josh was stealing his Zoolander pout and banished Josh from his porn kingdom.

by Anonymousreply 52August 22, 2021 7:52 PM

r51 Ooh do you have insider gossip on him? I know his split with pornstar Logan Moore was very acrimonious and that he used to use the pornstar name Josh Ryder but for some Strange reason despite his bad split from Logan he wanted to use moore as his stage surname?

r52 Didn't one of them get unhealthily obsessed with the other?

by Anonymousreply 53August 22, 2021 8:01 PM

R17 Poor Eric has problems of his own.

Banned by tik tok

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by Anonymousreply 54August 22, 2021 10:13 PM

R54.

by Anonymousreply 55August 22, 2021 10:16 PM

Why do whores have such a need to share their opinions on Everything?

by Anonymousreply 56August 22, 2021 10:24 PM

R55.

by Anonymousreply 57August 22, 2021 10:31 PM

Even Josh Moore's opinion means five million times more to gay men than the OP's, because the OP is just an unemployed, homophobic, transphobic, Nazi incel on meth.

by Anonymousreply 58August 22, 2021 10:32 PM

[quote] pedal untruths

R47 peddle untruths

by Anonymousreply 59August 22, 2021 10:36 PM

Oh no! Love gone wrong!

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by Anonymousreply 60August 22, 2021 10:39 PM

R59 R60

by Anonymousreply 61August 22, 2021 10:40 PM

[quote] I knew one gay white male who canceled his Instagram account "to give more space to T's and gays of color."

LMAO--right, I'm sure instagram limits the number of people that join 🤦‍♂️

by Anonymousreply 62August 22, 2021 10:43 PM

"Judge me NOT by the color of my skin, but the number of trans workers I"ve had sex with....which is a big fat ZERO"

by Anonymousreply 63August 22, 2021 10:44 PM

r60 I seem to remember there was strongly suspected to be some jealousy and disharmony when Tim Kruger booked Josh for some porn work but not Logan as Logan expected them to be booked as a courtesy. This is not long before they broke up.

Perhaps Tim and Josh got too sexual together away from the porn studio filming angering Logan??

by Anonymousreply 64August 22, 2021 11:27 PM

Oh, Josh and Logan.

Marry in haste, regret in leisure.

by Anonymousreply 65August 22, 2021 11:29 PM

Josh Moore tops Jim Durden in a scene filmed in Austria

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by Anonymousreply 66August 22, 2021 11:34 PM

R50 I hate trannys. I have never found the antics of the mentally ill one bit amusing.

by Anonymousreply 67August 22, 2021 11:38 PM

[quote]I don’t know why so many white gays on this forum avoid black gay and trans history.

BWAHAHAHA!!! Oh, my sides, MY SIDES!

Mary, without the contributions of any real or mythical "trans women of color" the Stonewall Uprising would have happened on exactly the same day it happened. The heavy looking-on and appropriation of the event by non-participants as Malcolm "Marsha" P. Johnson and Ray "Sylvia" Rivera borders on shameful. It is at very least irrelevant to the already percolating Gay Rights movement of that era.

by Anonymousreply 68August 22, 2021 11:44 PM

Sylvia never met a gay man she would not happily beat up and rob.

Marsha had zero idea what day it was.

by Anonymousreply 69August 22, 2021 11:58 PM

R42, "They" are the people who continue to spread this myth that trans started everything.

by Anonymousreply 70August 23, 2021 1:24 AM

R45, What exactly is trans history and what does it have to do with white gay men?

You mentioned ballroom culture, that is another thing trans like to lay claim to, that if it wasn't for them these places wouldn't exist for our enjoyment. But it you take a look at the history itself you realise it's just another myth making on their part. Ballroom culture/dancing has been around since the French Renaissance.

by Anonymousreply 71August 23, 2021 1:42 AM

R71

“Ballroom culture/dancing has been around since the French Renaissance”

This is where white gays show their ignorance. This is not the dance I was talking about.

This is the ballroom culture I was talking about, started by the black gay community. It includes vogue, dance, walk, and pose. It involves houses, which are basically like families, that come together to support each other. Especially LGBTQ+ people (mostly gay) who have been abandoned by their families for who they are, or have gone through a lot of strife.

This should be an important part of gay history, but because it doesn’t revolve around white gays it’s hardly talked about on this forum especially.

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by Anonymousreply 72August 23, 2021 2:01 AM

R72

It’s where voguing originated. Not Madonna like the white gays so love to claim. You’ll support Madonna’s voguing but not voguing by the black LGBT community, where it all started.

by Anonymousreply 73August 23, 2021 2:10 AM

I'm not white and I don't care much for Madonna. Yes, I've seen Paris is Burning and Queen, Rupaul's Drag Race is an iteration of that in some form. I don't see how you can say white gay men avoid black gay history, have you not seen any of the threads on Drag Race?

by Anonymousreply 74August 23, 2021 2:22 AM

READ R46!

by Anonymousreply 75August 23, 2021 2:32 AM

R72, you have no idea what you are talking about. People constantly go on and on and on and on about how Madonna didn't invent voguing and that it was black and latin people who started it bla bla bla. It has been mentioned countless times on this same site.

by Anonymousreply 76August 23, 2021 2:35 AM

And, as mentioned above, a documentary about ballroom culture - Paris Is Burning - was released 30 years ago to critical acclaim and became a sleeper hit. We are well aware of ballroom culture, to say otherwise is either disingenuous or trolling.

by Anonymousreply 77August 23, 2021 3:24 AM

Marsha P Johnson can be heard in an audio interview that is available on the internet and in the documentary about her saying SHE DIDN'T ARRIVE [at Stonewall] TIL IT WAS OVER. and that Sylvia was "passed out on a bench in Tompkins Sq Park.

For people who seem to idolize these "Black Trans Sex Workers" --- PS Marsha also says in the same documentary that she identities as A GAY MAN!!!!---- they don't seem to boother to listen or research what they actually said.

by Anonymousreply 78August 23, 2021 3:32 AM

Why let facts get in the way of propaganda R78

by Anonymousreply 79August 23, 2021 5:15 AM

In addition gay rights, here are 10 other things we need to thank black trans sex workers for:

1. Pasta

2. Mojitos

3. Carpet shampoo

4. Pedicures

5. Shoe boxes

6. Caller ID

7. Orthopaedic surgery

8. Anti histamines

9. The Oscars

10. Philanthropy

by Anonymousreply 80August 23, 2021 6:47 AM

r29 um both josh and his ex husband Logan are bisexual and have done scenes with trans. Josh has fucked ftm pussy. I think Logan has done cis female and mtf too, not 100% sure as all these gay turning bi pornstars meld into one, but I know they both dont only fuck 'cis' men.

by Anonymousreply 81August 23, 2021 7:18 AM

If it’s one thing I’ll give to the millennials is that they are a lot more open minded about race and other cultures then we give them credit for. I do give them that. And that’s partly thanks to some of the Gen Xers who gave birth to them. Either way, most millennials are more tolerant like I said.

Meanwhile we still have to put up with these nasty crusty old fugly ass boomers until they die off. Hence, the lack of young people’s presence on DL.

That’s where most of your indifference comes from is these aged out washed up decrepit’s on here that will never change.

Ugh …and I’m white too seeing this shit.

It’s so fucking in embarrassing tbh with you. Fuck…..

by Anonymousreply 82August 23, 2021 1:26 PM

This level of virtue signalling should be illegal.

by Anonymousreply 83August 29, 2021 10:32 AM
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