Porn Legend Peter North’s Wife Accuses Him of Rape and Abuse: ‘I Just Want My Life Back’

Who knew a dude who fucked a million people, guys and girls, would not be mentally stable. LOL.

Nothing like is.sacred anymore! 😭

Are we sure it wasn’t a stunt butt double that did the raping and abuse?

From what I hear, they can be very convincing.

He just misses having a big cock up his ass.

Didn’t he do gay porn , too, under a different name?

R5 Yes. He started in gay porn under the name Matt Ramsey.

The man who assaulted my wife was a CGI stunt double.

Yes, R5, I believe his gay porn name was Peter South.

He ... LOVED ... getting fucked by a big dick.

No, it was "Matt Ramsey".

He refuses to acknowledge his gay porn past. Insists it wasn't him. Won't discuss it. Gets really mad if you bring it up.

The man has ISSUES.

Any cunt who'd be stupid enough to marry a former porn star who's fucked a million holes, male and female, deserves whatever crap she gets.

He was in COUSINS...Gay Flick...I tried to find a link on a porn site but too many results and not the one with PN...Some queen will find it...

Found a link...It's him. I don't remember him ever denying the gay porn though....How could he...Here is proof.

I remember North had a stalker some years ago who was always criticizing and attacking him everywhere on social media for being a stupid single-digit IQed turd. It was really funny. The guy was extremely detailed about North and clearly knew him IRL.

Not since "Wuthering Heights" has there been such a tragic love story.

R12 , victim-blamer much?

R17 Fuck off. Everyone is a "victim" these days. Not everyone supports victim-culture. I never have. I think fundamentally we each get exactly what we deserve.

But has anyone ever recorded him sucking cock? This is what's important. Anal doesn't count.

The hell it doesn't, R19. You think the anus is just for taking a dump? Get real.

She's a Liar! Women engage in "mutual combat" and then claim that they were victims because they are the "fairer sex". Total STUNT QUEEN! She's trying to manipulate the system and she'll lose in the end.

I've seen claims his ex has alleged some of her exes beat her to extort money from them (see link). He has made a lot of money from porn, not so much through performing really, but for his "North Pole" line, which sold really well when people still paid for porn. He owned the line and thats where the real money was. He has multiple expensive properies and cars that are worth lots of money.

It rather convient she recorded the whole thing. He has the money to fight this. If he could track down her exes and have them testify in his favor, he could possibly win.

[quote]He has the money to fight this. If he could track down her exes and have them testify in his favor, he could possibly win.

According to her she has multiple hospital records of injuries.

You heard some rando online say that she hired a bunch of her exes to beat her up and pretend it was him, and now you want him to spend thousands to uncover this evil conspiracy?

It's amazing to see the pretzels you guys twist yourselves into just to defend some grizzled old porn star who doesn't even know you exist.

Peter is gay as a goose. WTF is he doing married?

If this is really his house he must have really done well in porn over the decades!

R24 No, they said she claimed other exes beat her in the past in order to extort money from them, and then left them after getting the money. Is it true? Who knows, but I've seen other posts in the past online claiming that she was a shady gold digger.

Peter has problems of his own for sure, but I've never hard of him being a woman beater. In fact, he had a reputation among women in porn for being good to work with. And for the record, I'm no stan of his. I've criticized his denial of his past in gay porn and the various plastic surgery he's had in more recent years among other things on here before.

He sure got fucked a lot on camera, but I don’t think I’ve ever seen him suck cock? I always thought that was weird…that he’d do one but not the other.

I loved the scene where Matt fucked his student on a weight bench in his basement. Very hot.

He never sucked cock but there is one scene where he kisses a twink (Michael Cummings I think).

[quote] I have a soft spot on the back of my head, so I can’t get kicked there.

Um, and the chances of that happening on a daily basis are?

[quote] The saga of Nadia and Peter North (real name: Alden Joseph Brown) began as a love story. The couple met in 2015, after North reached out to Nadia to help him raise capital for his nutrition company.

Get Baz Lurman on the phone. Time for another Romeo & Juliet reboot.

Seems like men who have sex with men and who deny it, and are closeted about being gay or bisexual, tend to abuse their girlfriends or wives.

THAT was her escape plan? Did this bitch never watch Sleeping With the Enemy?

If you watch the famous video with Rick Donovan, you never really see Donovan’s cock head pass into North’s asslips. You see him pushing his cock in between his cheeks, which anyone can easily do and pretend it’s penetrating. I also believe there could have been a stunt double involved as well, if North didn’t want Donovan’s cock sliding in between his cheeks. I’ve seen that clip hundreds of times (I had the VHS!) but was never fully convinced. I’d love if it were true.

Peter North Bottoming AGAIN:

R34 HAS to be Peter North. Get off Datalounge and lawyer up!

I need to see cum dripping out of his mouth or hole before I believe any of this.

R34 take your delusion elsewhere.

R38.

“I told you to sit the fuck still! UHHHH UHHHH UHHH 💦 💦 💦 💦 💦

He needs to go back to being a bottom bitch.

Why do all these "straight" gay porn stars beat their women? Ryan Idol is still in jail.

ok nevermind what I said in R34, this scene looks like completely legit penetration into North.

In “The Bigger, The Better” there’s room for doubt. But not here.

He's a 'porn legend'?

I saw him on TT Knight's podcast and... I'm sorry... He was dumb as fuck. I was really surprised. Both of them were so fuckin' stupid. I bailed out eventually.

Nadia used to perform in porn vids on Peter’s site. I saw one where she was getting doubled penetrated while Peter watched.

Who's the stud he blows his load on at the end of R43's clip? Love the smirk at the end.

R32 is the psychotic bi-basher. Fuck off, cunt. Not one thing you claim is true.

Gross pig.

Bummer.

Peter North is totally Matt Ramsey. North will fuck women with his large member and his legendary multiple “ropes” of jizz but I don’t think he has ever gone down on those broads. A hole is a hole, but eating P is for str8s only.

Well, I heard years ago that he didn't do oral because he had a sensitive gag reflex.

Oh really? I always wondered why he didn't.

He's from Nova Scotia, does anyone know anything about his early life?

Love this Wiki item:

In his memoir, Breakshot: A Life in the 21st Century American Mafia (2009), Kenny Gallo recounts an altercation with North, which arose from North having starred as a bottom in homosexual pornographic films. Gallo stated that North was very sensitive about that particular period of his life and wished to keep it secret. Gallo stated he had received threatening phone calls from North in which North stated that Gallo "would pay" if he spread the information further. Gallo then set up a meeting with North in person to discuss the matter further. Gallo brought some back-up in the form of a "tattooed Nazi drug dealer" named "Speedy." Gallo and Speedy met up with North and threatened North with grievous bodily harm to his face and genitals. Gallo claims that, in the heat of the moment, he reached in his pocket for a knife but was stopped by Speedy before using it.

He talks about in that 3 hour podcast. Normal happy childhood, into sports and cars and lost his virginity at 18.

I can't remember the title but I read a book a while back where North was part of some drug gang in Miami run by an Asian guy who found the gay tape and humiliated him in front of is gangster friends..

Oops. Didn't see the Wiki quote...Some life he's had.

Definite penetration here.

I remember in an interview with Asia Carrera. She said that Peter North was born with two prostates, hence his huge voluminous loads

So there's a Canadian circumcised.

R60, there are millions of circumcised Canadian men -- from Justin Bieber to Jason Priestley.

As usual DL is late yet another party that's been going on Twitter for 3 years.

But hey, start another covid death thread.

Your really timely with that.

Sounds like another classic case of a homo trying to live a straight life and ends up in a constant rage, beating the person he thinks is responsible for all his pain, the unloved wife he married for convenience.

She sounds like someone with loads of business sense, but little to no common sense.

R64. He said loads…hehehe

[quote] Your really timely with that.

Oh, dear.

R59, I think he said that wasn't true on TT Boy's podcast. If that's the case, then I have two prostates because I cum just like him.

R67, please post a video.

R64 From everything I've heard about him, he isn't a bad guy, but is very superficial. His basic interests - sex, working out and keeping up his appearance, and sports cars.

Keeps to himself for the most part. Always kept a distance from the porn industry, even when he was regularly shooting. He has lived in Orange County for quite some time and it wasn't uncommon for him to show up late for work since he had to commute.

He's not exactly a business mastermind, but he realized how popular he was and followed the other smart performers in producing his own stuff.

There's nothing more unsettling than finding out a porn star you respect is emotionally fucked up. I literally can't breath right now.

R68, I will before October 1st.

She knew what he was about the first time he beat her yet she stayed for years. He bragged about F***ing a Drugged up ubderage Tracy Lords yet this Nadia bitch stayed with him and didn’t get him arrested? Well ya reap what you sow.

R9 Is Rick Donovan.

It’s known fact he’s closeted and hates himself for it. So his inner anger at playing straight makes him fly into rages.

R47, that smirking guy is so fucking hot, yet I believe that's the ONLY porn he ever did. I've googled his name before and literally nothing comes up but two scenes from that one movie.

R45 That TT Boy interview was painful. I couldn't get through the whole thing, either.

First of all, TT Boy is a fucking idiot who doesn't know the first thing about conducting a decent interview. Then you pair him up with an equally idiotic Peter North, and it's a just a moron's shit show.

Of course, TT Boy never brought up North's gay porn past. TT Boy's brother is former gay porn star Lex Baldwin (who got plastic surgery, ruined his face, and now performs under the stupid name of "Talon" in straight porn), and it's well known that TT Boy went ballistic when he found out his brother was doing gay porn. He's a homophobic asshole, so of course, he wasn't going to ask Peter North what it was like to take Rick Donovan's gigantic cock up his ass.

Why Lex?!

R77 The story goes that he got plastic surgery so he could deny ever being Lex Baldwin. He was gorgeous before. Now he just looks like some freak of nature.

Is "Talon" any more emotive than Lex was?

Lex Baldwin was such a limp noodle and one of the worst gay porn stars ever. He was pushed hard for a few movies as this big stud but he always looked like he was balancing his checkbook in his head while fucking and/or being sucked. I get that some dudes were/are G4P but he couldn't be bothered to even look slightly annoyed as most dudes do.

R79 He was a terrible performer, yes. As "Talon" in his het porn, he's much more animated, but he's so freakish looking, I just can't get into him.

Talon ruined his looks by getting that horrible plastic surgery. I used to like his brother, TT Boy.

"Sounds like another classic case of a homo trying to live a straight life and ends up in a constant rage, beating the person he thinks is responsible for all his pain, the unloved wife he married for convenience."

One of the truest statements I've ever read...

Isn't that why some of these "bisexual" men are always pissed off at the world, because they know, inside, that they really love dicks more than pussies, so they take out their anger on others?

I have a friend who's a former straight porn actor-turned director who directed Peter North in a couple of movies in the 1980s.

He said it was an open secret that North was bisexual, but it was never, ever discussed on set for fear of North going ballistic.

So it seems the rage has been brewing inside of him for a long, long time.

My parents used to have VHS tapes of a few of his movies. I was so fascinated and turned on by him. I remember a movie with Marc Wallace (sp?) where North is his boss and makes Marc stare in his eyes while he fucks the secretary. I remember it being so homoerotic. Strange that both actors both did gay porn in the past.

R84 IIRC, North and Wallace were in a gay porn together and performed in an orgy scene.

All those porn broads who let Peter North bareback them in his early years of straight porn must have been so drugged up they had no idea what was going on. Surely they all knew he'd been a major raw bottom in gay porn for years. Or maybe they were dumb enough to believe all his lies that his gay porn scenes were all smoke and mirrors. They're just very lucky he never came down with AIDS. And I read long ago his biggest reason for leaving gay porn for straight porn was his fear of contracting AIDS.

Why do I need to keep repeating myself? Kick me anywhere but there.

"“I ran upstairs, he threw me down on the ground and kicked me in the back of my head,” she explains. “And I’ve had brain surgery in the past—I have a soft spot on the back of my head, so I can’t get kicked there—and he hit me so hard I was throwing up and got a concussion.”

Even in this damning piece they don't mention the gay porn? Make me not want to read.

R86 Why would they or anyone know his history? Were they fucking GODS, you fucking moron.

R89 Everyone in the industry knew Peter North's history in gay porn. It was absolutely not a secret.

Marc Wallice is still alive surprisingly alive, HIV+ and living in trailer park for seniors in Las Vegas. He has been arrested several times since 2015, twice for DUI and once for domestic battery.

"trailer park for seniors in Las Vegas"

God, that sounds like my idea of hell on earth.

R92 For trailer parks, the one he lives in doesn't look too bad. I know that is not really saying much though.

This is the one he lives in.

R91 Another gay porn actor with anger issues, it seems.

I remember seeing a straight porn once with Marc Wallice. It was a gang bang video with one girl and about 6 guys. At one point, Mark was fucking a girl doggie style while she sucked the cock of hung hunk Billy Glide.

In the middle of the action, Marc grabbed Billy's nipple. Billy quickly batted it away, but seems Marc couldn't even control his gay urges in a straight porn scene.

R93 He could do much worse. At least he's not homeless.

Well, all I can say is he was a lot nicer when he was Matt Ramsey.

R89 is clearly on the rag today. I advise we not engage.

R34 No way North's scene with Rick Donovan was simulated. North took that cock like a champ. Jump to 16:52.

I remember reading some interview with Peter North years ago where he vaguely acknowledged his gay porn days and said something about being successful in porn because he was able to completely use mind over matter to control his body, regardless of who he was having sex with in a scene.

Porn star Jewel D'Nyle did a mistress/slave-themed photoshoot with Peter North in the 90s, and she said it was his idea to have her put a dildo in his ass as part of the shoot. She said he loved it.

Peter North and John Dough did an MMF scene once that I remember. It was clear that Peter was totally into John and kept focused on him throughout the scene. At the end, when the guys do the typical jacking off on the girl, Peter was stroking and looking right at John the whole time - never looked at the girl at all.

Later, I read an interview with John Dough, and he said that during the scene, Peter kept calling him "baby."

R101 Is this the scene? Looks like it to me.

Apologies for the tits and female genitalia. Focus on the guys and their nice bodies and cocks.

R102 That's the one. Especially at 5:44 and 19:32. He keeps saying to John Dough, "You wanna cum at the same time? You ready?"

Gross filth, R102.

Traci Lords' story has a podcast - I made it through a few episodes. Can't remember if North is covered but he must be.

Description:

Before there were sex tapes, there were sex tapes. Before there were stars who became bigger stars when their private porn went public, there were porn stars. Traci Lords. The first, the best, the O.G. Hardcore since ’84. From the Peabody-nominated C13Originals studios and Vanity Fair's Lili Anolik, comes Once Upon a Time… in the Valley, featuring Ashley West. In the roaring 1980s X world, Traci Lords reigned supreme. No one questioned her right to sovereignty. Only, it turned out, the biggest star in Adult, wasn’t one. As America would discover in July 1986, when the FBI busted down her door. Traci Lords was really Nora Kuzma, who entered the industry as a 15-year-old high school sophomore. Traci, the victim, was saved. And the industry, the villain, was very nearly destroyed. But what if the victim here was also the villain; the villain, also the victim?Once Upon a Time… in the Valley is the world's first real-life psychological thriller and porno-noir mystery. Just think Boogie Nights—if Boogie Nights had a three-way with Gone Girl and A Star is Born.

Was TT Boy abused or abandoned by his mother? He seems to really hate women in his scenes, degrading and them and fucking them hard like it hurts.

R106 I think a lot of these porn guys have issues with women.

R105 I don't recall Peter North mentioned in the podcast, or if he is, it's only briefly.

R106. Totally. It must be tough for str8 porn stars to be objectified, like, god-forbid, WOMEN!

Psycho or not, I’d let Peter North cum all over me any day if the week.

I would have at some point, though I'm not sure I need his 68 year old semen on me....I doubt he can still shoot the way he did!

R111 He's actually 64. I bet he can still deliver a pretty good load, though. Especially if you fucked it out of him.

R106 His (TT's) mother was killed in car accident when he was young. I think at some point his father remarried. His father was a very tough, old school, macho type that didn't show much affection to his sons and worked them hard in his copper mine at a very young age.

There were a good amount of women who wouldn't work with him because he was so rough or wouldn't work with him again after he got too rough. I found his scenes totally unerotic. He was just a fuck machine that didn't have much chemisty with most of the women he did scenes with.

It's probably a good thing he moved behind the scenes quite some time age. He would've been metooed, for sure.

When starting out, TT was quite the twink.

It wouldn’t surprise me if a M/M or mutual JO video surface eventually.

From his IMDB profile:

[on his beginning in gay porn] It was not a part of my sexuality at all. I was only able to do it because of my strong mind and my physical ability to have control over my own body.

Sure, Peter. Sure.

R115. MARY! (I’m looking at you Matt.)

You know when he has “alone time” buttplugs and dildos are part of the session.

[quote]IIRC, North and Wallace were in a gay porn together and performed in an orgy scene.

Wallice hid his HIV status and kept fucking until Sharon Mitchell confronted him. The whole thing was documented in an HBO documentary I watched called "Real Sex." Wallice was hot. I haven't seen him with North but there are gay flicks out there where he's a bottom.

R115 Yes, Peter, we've you control those huge cocks in your ass quite well.

We've SEEN you control those huge cocks in your ass. ^

[quote]Apologies for the tits and female genitalia.

Sweetie most gays watched straight porn before gay. It was much easier to acquire and less terrifying buying/renting gay porn.

R120 I know that, but so many queens on this site get the vapors at the mere sight of the naked female body, I thought it best to add a disclaimer.

Putrid female genitalia!

VILE!!!!!

When I was in college back in the 80s, my straight roommate had a bunch of straight porn on VHS. I remember seeing Peter North in one of them and lusting after him - his athletic body, his college boy face, and his gigantic cock and cumshots. I was in love.

About a year later, I went to a gay bookstore and saw a magazine that had a layout of Peter North fucking some twink. I couldn't believe it - the hot straight guy I lusted after was pounding another guy! I bought the magazine. I'll never forget it; it was $15, which was a fortune for a starving college student in the 1980s, and buying it would mean I'd have to skip a couple of meals that week, but it was worth it. That magazine gave me lots of wanking pleasure for a long time.

R105 r108 The Rialto Report podcast on Traci Lords was 10 parts, included interviews with two dozen people, and not one moment mentioned Peter North. The Rialto team will never give Peter North the royal treatment because North is a pathological liar.

I never understood the appeal of Rick Donovan. Yeah he had a big dick,that rarely got fully hard. And ugly as a mud post.

Rick Donovan wasn't ugly, as far as porn stars go. But come on, people watch porn for the big dicks.

R124, if he is a pathological liar, then I don't believe he had a bucolic childhood in Nova Scotia.

I had a roommate once who told me that when he was living in LA, he once hired Rick Donovan as an escort. Said he wasn't all that attractive, but was very nice and could throw a good fuck.

My roommate was a big bottom size queen, so Donovan must have been a dream come true for him.

I thought all the gay male porn stars wed great female vocalists of the 1950s.

[quote] Putrid female genitalia! VILE!!!!!

From which you crawled into the world.

R130 He didn't fuck it to get out.

I got to go to the Opening Night and after party (at Paramount Studios) for the musical of SUNSET BOULEVARD, and lo and behold, some older man had brought Rick Donovan as their date/paid companion. He looked about what you would expect, not great looking, but attractive enough in a tux.

Peter was such a voracious bottom. Too bad he switched over to straight porn where he never looked like he enjoyed it much. I remember reading on a message board that he used to bring a male companion with him to straight sets to rim him so he could shoot a big load.

[quote]I loved the scene where Matt fucked his student on a weight bench in his basement. Very hot.

That's a good scene

R133 I don't think that's a true story. My porn director friend said that never happened when he directed Peter North. All he said was that it was known North was bi, but it was not to be mentioned on set for fear of pissing him off.

He also said Peter North had a thing about his hair and would tell his scene partners they couldn't touch it.

Were they the Scorcese/DiCaprio of porn?

R136 Hardly. But he did say he never cast Peter North for his acting abilities.

R100 From an interview with Suze Randall, the photographer who shot the layout for Club magazine:

"We did a few shots where Peter put the dildo in Jewel. Then Peter suggested Jewel put the dildo in him. I always want my models to feel comfortable during my shoots, so I left it up to Jewel to decide if that was something she wanted to do. She agreed to it, and Peter coached her on how to insert it. They both got into it, and the shots I took turned out very hot. When we presented the proofs to the magazine, they rejected the dildo shots with Peter, though. The editors thought they pushed the envelope too much and would turn off the magazine's buyers, which were overwhelmingly male and straight."

Somebody should find the negatives and put them online.

R138 I'm sure there were more than a few straight male Club readers who would've liked seeing a dildo in Peter's ass. A lot of straight guys get into that fantasy.

R139 I know I do.

The male parnter rimming him before scenes thing isn't true. That would not be tolerated and he would've had a lot of people rufusing to work with him since he would be considered "high risk". And really, does that make any sense about someone who tried so hard to erase anything gay he did in the past.

She sounds trashy. This may be a case of the victim is to blame.

I'd rim just so long as he blasted his hot load on my face.

What’s his ethnicity?

[quote]T he male parnter rimming him before scenes thing isn't true. That would not be tolerated and he would've had a lot of people rufusing to work with him since he would be considered "high risk". And really, does that make any sense about someone who tried so hard to erase anything gay he did in the past.

Not saying it's true, but how would he be considered high risk if he was on the receiving end of being rimmed off to the side in between filming? It was an open secret that he was bi apparently in the industry so I think a lot of his scene partners and crew probably knew.

R145 It is discouraged to bring someone to the set with you in the porn industry. Even the female porn stars boyfriends and husbands who are not performers themselves (often called "suitcase pimps" in the industry) are discouraged from coming to sets.

Also considering the stigma in the straight industry towards who are actively having sex with men. I guarantee if a straight male performed came to the set with his boyfriend, to rim him or not, the majority of the women would refuse to work with him and so would many of the directors. Yes, his gay porn start wasn't a secret, even back in the 80s, but it was considered old news.

And like I said before, Peter has done everything he could to bury his gay porn beginnings and gets angry when it was brought up, no way would he do something like that. Not to mention, no one else has never mentioned anything about this ever. As much as gossip flows in the porn industry, if that happened, even one time, it would've been mentioned somewhere by someone who worked in the industry.

The audio of him talking to his wife after the alleged beating is come pretty creepy stuff.

There is a lot of his gay porn from the 1980s around. It seems really odd that he thought he could hide all of that. Hawt stuff btw.

R148 I don't think it's so much that he's trying to hide it, since it's all out there and everyone knows about it. It's more that he refuses to acknowledge that he got his start in gay porn and absolutely won't discuss it, which I think is ridiculous. Just own it, dude! People would respect you a lot more if you did.

R147 He sounds like he's totally fucked up on something. He's singing "Jingle Bell Rock" after he beats the shit out of his wife? That's some deranged shit.

R149 Peter North refusing to talk about his gay porn past is like Faye Dunaway refusing to talk about Mommie Dearest.

R47 R75 that guy was Jeff Pirelli and it seems that is the only movie he did. The movie was Sizing Up.

WHET Jeff Pirelli??

Loved Sizing Up. I’ll have rewatch that. It’s been a long time.

You never hear from any gay porn stars who worked with Peter North back in the day. Do they have some kind of unspoken agreement not to discuss his gay past, too?

He denied his gay porn past until the internet invented streaming porn. I worked on porn sets so I know how things work. In the era of AIDS he never would've showed up to straight set with a male fluffer. It would not happen. Ever.

[quote] Seems like men who have sex with men and who deny it, and are closeted about being gay or bisexual, tend to abuse their girlfriends or wives.

Get out of here, you're just generalizing.

Faye: Peter, your meat should be rare. It loses it's vitamins if it's overcooked.

Peter: Rare? I thought you said bare. I just took some meat bare over a school desk.

If you ever listen to The Rialto Report podcasts, many started their life in porn because it wasn't mainstream and most of the early films were in grindhouses and peepshows, the places decent folk wouldn't go to so their extra curricular job wouldn't be found out. Even in the 80's gay porn wasn't playing in every downtown theater like the straight porno chic films were. He probably thought no one would ever know.

Peter North was just gay-for-pay and homophobic about it.

The homophobia has to do with defending his manhood amongst his troglodyte peers and the blacklist that many female porn stars have against scene partners who have done gay manporn.

North is still oriented toward women, no matter how "bisexual" he was. You pathetic, wishful queens are just projecting a gay orientation on to him.

Closet cases do not go the distance with public heterosexuality as deeply and consistently as Peter North has for decades.

I'd like to see Lindsey Graham or Marcus Bachmann fuck as many chicks on camera as Peter North.

R160: They want dick untainted by HIV. So do gay men for that matter. Hence the fantasies about desirable but unattainable men.

R160 HI Peter.

R160 My friend who directed Peter in a couple of porn movies says it was an open secret that North swung both ways. It just wasn't talked about, especially not within his earshot. He may be straight leaning, but he also likes a big cock in his ass once in a while.

[quote]I'd like to see Lindsey Graham or Marcus Bachmann fuck as many chicks on camera as Peter North.

I can't even picture them getting it up. Are you sure they even have penises and not just Ken doll crotches?

R161 North found fame - and more importantly, money - doing straight porn, so that's what he stuck with. That doesn't mean he isn't gay, or at the least, bisexual.

Not unlike the late Wade Nichols or Jack Wrangler - two gay men who started in gay porn, then moved into straight porn where they became more prolific and made more money.

The difference between gay-for-pay and str8-for-pay is that the latter is essentially forcing gay people to conform to homophobic societal expectations.

R167 Hence, the rage Peter North has carried with him for decades that manifests itself when he beats the shit out of his wife.

Why blame the wife for the fact that he can't deal with his same-sex attractions?

R169 Who's blaming the wife?

r169 are you new to DL?

r170 see r12 and r142 (and probably others)

He is if he's beating her, R170.

[quote] Not unlike the late Wade Nichols or Jack Wrangler - two gay men who started in gay porn, then moved into straight porn where they became more prolific and made more money.

Um, I thought the reason these "straight" guys did porn gay was because it paid more. Straight porn is all about catering to the women.

There is nothing that replicates the experience of men who look like men who love men. Nothing.

Guys in straight porn can work seven days a week and multiple times a day. Can you do that in gay porn?

R173 There are more opportunities for men to make money in straight porn. The "talent" pool of guys for straight porn isn't deep, so a straight porn actor can get more consistent work.

North has said he started in gay porn because he was in debt and needed money. If it paid better than straight porn, he'd have stayed in it. He was a popular gay star.

Given the amount of straight porn stars who abuse their wives, I sincerely doubt he's doing it because he's secretly gay.

R166 George Payne is another 80s porn star who started out doing gay porn, then eventually moved over to the straight stuff.

Dear r121,

The "queen on this site who gets the vapors at the mere sight of the naked female body," a.k.a. r104, r122 or Boris DeFuckwit the Nazi Incel, is a misogynist, homophobic yet homosexist nutjob who seeks the complete annihilation of all women and bisexuals of any kind.

He was banned from Twitter and even Parler for such denigration and inciting violence against people he doesn't objectify. You can observe him cyberstalking all across Datalounge, even calling clothed SEX AND THE CITY actresses "putrid," "vile filth."

"Filth," of course, didn't stop r104/r122 from diving head-first into every filthy con perpetrated by Ex-President Toadstool Penis the Playboy Channel Pornographer and Gröpenfurher or his Porn Star First Lady; endorsing them for five years ad nauseam on DL.

Melania's nasty genitals-for-hire are perfectly fine for r122.

He even worships the "filth" of gay porn star Tyler Torro!

R177 I'm certain it's a factor in his self loathing that he takes out on women.

Actually, North's first appearance was in Straight Porn. He did one flick in 1980 when he was 23 years old. THREE years later, he did his second flick and it was gay. He did both gay and straight for a couple years until he didn't need to do gay porn anymore. So his story matches up that he was chasing the money.

He's one the few straight male performers who got paid more than women. Again, maybe if AIDS wasn't ruining everyone's sex lives, he may have continued doing gay porn. I can't see him being in a relationship with a man. His track record with women is pretty solid.

Let's face it, he's a whore. Just like the rest of us.

R177. It sounds like he’ll be able to reenact his most famous scenes…in prison.

Now Jack Wrangler WAS a gay-oriented bisexual and he didn't stay in straight porn for the latter decades of his life.

[quote] He did one flick in 1980 when he was 23 years old

And what would that title be?

[quote]Now Jack Wrangler WAS a gay-oriented bisexual and he didn't stay in straight porn for the latter decades of his life.

Jack Wrangler was gay and says so in his book and autobiography. His wife knew this.

It probably was said upthread, but could the (alleged) aggression come from ‘roids?

[quote]You never hear from any gay porn stars who worked with Peter North back in the day. Do they have some kind of unspoken agreement not to discuss his gay past, too?

And what about his male lovers outside of porn? Did he make them all sign non disclosure agreements?

North's rage could easily be exacerbated by 'roids.

But steroids or testosterone injections don't turn decent guys into assholes. They amplify guys who were already assholes.

What exactly is the criteria for being a “Porn legend” and how does he qualify?

[quote] North is still oriented toward women, no matter how "bisexual" he was.

You're delusional. Or as some have conjectured, Peter North himself.

Trivia that started in his gay porn days: His nickname was "the decorator". He was called that because every time he had a money shot he covered the walls, the drapes, and everything else in the room.

[quote] You never hear from any gay porn stars who worked with Peter North back in the day. Do they have some kind of unspoken agreement not to discuss his gay past, too?

Most of them are probably dead.

R154, "Sizing Up" also features Kurt Marshall, another popular gay porn star of the era:

R138 This story is so telling. I imagine Peter North is one of those guys who identifies as "straight," but who clearly enjoys a dick up his ass.

Reminds me of a guy I met at the gym once. Big, burly, blue collar, construction worker guy. Married, kids, identified as straight. However, he loved to get fucked. He would never, ever say he's gay or even bi. He just liked the feeling of a cock inside of him.

I once asked him if he ever used dildos in his "private time." He said "yes," but he preferred getting fucked by a guy because he liked having someone else in control so he could just lay back and enjoy the feeling of it all.

I would believe Peter North envisions himself the same way - straight as an arrow, but can't resist a big ol' dick pounding his muscle ass.

Except that’s not “straight” that’s textbook bisexuality especially if they go as far to seeking out men or trannies with a functional penis. Because that is having sex with men

R193 I didn't say it was. The point of my post was how North and these other guys who like to get fucked identify themselves.

Here is my meaningless addition to this thread. Since I am too young to remember this, I have always heard that the late 60s -70s into the disco era was a wild time, sexually. That everyone was fucking and experimenting and having a good time. Then AIDS happened and the party stopped and everyone went back to their respective corners because they were scared. This in turn lead to a lot of straight guys (or bi or whatever) who may have been down for some crossover fun to disassociate themselves from that life. Peter North wasn't the only straight porn actor who did gay porn in the late 70s and 80s.

Here is what we know, even today, guys who performed in gay porn have a hard time making the crossover to straight porn because of the HIV stigma. There was even that website a few years ago that outed the gay porn pasts of male porn stars who are now working in straight porn. Someone on here once linked to a straight porn website and those people are not the most enlightened.

Peter North was clearly playing the game to keep his career going and it appears to have worked. Most men in straight porn are just life support system for cocks. They're props. North was able to build a career, mainly because of his loads, and he didn't look like a troll and the porn ladies liked working with him.

We could probably spend all day arguing about what Peter North is. But Peter North is 65 years old, he is a product of a different time when the rules were a little bit different.

The TL:DR version. Peter North was up for anything, then AIDS hit and he stopped being up for anything and then tried to pretend that the past didn't happen so he could keep a career in a world where past gay sex was seen as problematic.

You only have to watch that video of Rick Donovan fucking Matt Ramsey to know he REALLY enjoyed it.

R195 Thank you for your opening statement for the defense, next we are to hear opening statements for the prosecution.

Peter has lots of straight guy fans. Not because they want to be with him, they want to be him. He's famous because of his money shots because most guys can't do that but they sure as hell want to, and it looks so much more pleasurable. Same with John Holmes, he was butt ugly and had a huge ugly cock, but it was the fact it was so big. Straight guys didn't want to be with him either but every guy alive dreams of a bigger dick.

Ive actually known a couple of guys during my life that identified as totally straight but loved a good hard ass fucking. One I know was because of his being molested as a child ,but the other one wouldnt even kiss you or touch you and the only thing he wanted was to be fucked then you leave. Ive never ever been one for labels in my 60 years,Ive known way too many people with all kinds of kinks and fetishes to think sexuality isnt multi layered. One guy I knew loved to jack off while kissing you,but there was no way he was going to touch you or let you touch him. Just kiss while he jacked . He had a beautiful dick too,and oh how I begged him to let me have it . Nope,just kissing. He was an excellent kisser too.

[quote] Ive actually known a couple of guys during my life that identified as totally straight but loved a good hard ass fucking.

I don't care what they identify as. They can identify as 2 headed porcupines, but that doesn't make it true. I'll say this one time. NO MAN WHO ENJOYS HAVING ANOTHER MAN FUCK HIM UP THE ASS IS STRAIGHT! There are very likely straight men who will use a dildo on themselves, or let their wives or some other females use one on them, but that's as far as it goes. That anyone would even think about believing men who let other men fuck them in the ass are straight is outlandish and indicative of a level of gullibility that is laughable, if not pathetic.

r200 You are wrong. Sexuality happens between you ears, NOT between you legs. r199 is right. I too, have known men that enjoy the Kink of having sex with men, but have ZERO interest in romance or companionship. The sex is a fetish probably linked childhood experimentation or sexualization by another male.

R201 you poor deluded, gullible bastard. You must get taken advantage of often.

And here we go again - yet another thread devolving into a discussion of what makes a person straight, bi, or gay. Yawn.

Can we get back to the subject at hand? That being cock-in-ass lovin' Peter North beating the shit out of his wife?

R198 I once had a thing going with a married dude who would come over and watch straight porn while we sat on the couch and jerked off together.

This guy LOVED Peter North's movies and got totally turned on by the volumes of cum North could produce. Whenever we'd watch a Peter North movie, my buddy would cum as soon as Peter did.

Richard from Howard Stern? ^

R205.

[quote]there was no way he was going to touch you or let you touch him. Just kiss while he jacked . He had a beautiful dick too,and oh how I begged him to let me have it . Nope,just kissing. He was an excellent kisser too.

Why would you be with someone so selfish?

[17] false allegations effect everyone, it could be us next

r208 = OJ Simpson

His face always bothered me. Like he was missing the lower half of it. A bit rat-like.

"I didn’t know if I was going to die that night," was also what North said regarding the time that he took Rick Donovan's horsecock.

Yeah, his face wasn't as great as his body was.

And as someone else pointed out, he did have a big following among straight men. He was their idol. He fucked all of the big female porn stars in from the 80s-2000s and had that big cumshot. Most had no idea of his gay porn work and for many tainted him to them when it was inevitably brought up on internet forums where straight male fans were gushing over their idol. One snarky person posted a picture from his gay porn days, striking a very gay pose with his hands behind his head, displaying his shaved armpits, saying "whoever would've guessed he was gay?".

R210 He was cute in his prime as a gay porn bottom, but he's had too much plastic surgery over the years, and now his face looks unnatural.

His face was never much but he had an incredible body and exceptional dick.

His big, muscle ass back in the 80s was really something too. One of the best ever in porn.

He had an ass even a straight guy would wanna tap.

Ready for action!

I'm totally straight y'all!

^ That's Industrial Light & Magic at it's best.

He loved it eaten too. The look on his face says it all.

R220 I wish I could've been the dude with his face buried in that bubble ass.

I'd really like to know the whole story about how North got involved in gay porn to begin with. Did he get approached by someone who suggested it? Or did he willingly seek out the opportunity?

He willingly sought.

I believe he was "discovered" in a gym and was approached to do gay porn.

Here's a Hustler Erotic Video Guide article from the mid 90s ripping Peter/Matt a new one for his lying and defensiveness about his gay porn career. plus a gay complilation box cover they posted of him spreading his cheeks wide and taking Rick Donovan's big one. I can only imagine the straight male readers reaction to those pics.

I am amazed at how naive some of you are. He got into porn the same way that everyone got into porn back then. No one sought out porn willingly back in those days. He was just one of the few who made the most of it.

R220 - Here's that scene.

[quote]I believe he was "discovered" in a gym and was approached to do gay porn.

Getting all kinds of stories on this. One story is he was “debt”, and now he was approached in a gym. I think the truth is, he was hard, getting fucked up the ass by guys, and fucking guys in the ass, and shooting his copious amount of cum all over hungry, yearning men.

Learning the real story behind how he got into gay porn would reveal a lot about him.

R224 Larry Flynt always took the gloves off when he'd had enough of the BS.

R224 I love that North thought he could lie about only doing jackoff videos and get away with it. Not the brightest bulb in the package.

He did straight porn first.

I heard a rumor one time that his penis was a prosthetic of sorts and a pump would create those iconic money shots. Not saying I believe it but...

R231 Nope.

IMDB is missing his first credit

R234 IMDB is much more accurate that IAFD.

R234 So he did a straight porn, then did gay porn exclusively for a while. Wonder why. Hmmm.

IMDB is not accurate. Its notorious for being incorrect. It even has the spelling of MY name wrong and they won't fix it.

R237 I didn't know "Anonymous" was a celebrity.

I bet he also tried to drown her with his prodigious amounts of cum.

Imdb is not accurate or comprehensive with adult titles.

iafdb is much more so.

r160 He's still a textbook by definition bisexual though. And he will be seen as such accordingly on here. This isn't Tumblr or Twitter where you can make shit up for yourself. However, I do think bisexual should have sub categories. Bi-homo for the ones that lean more towards gay men, bi-hetero for the ones that lean towards women, and pansexual for the ones that love to fuck trannies and ride hard for them.

I don't deny bi cycling is a thing. But most of these men already categorized themselves when they try so hard to show you how much they love women more than men and how men are only for sex.

R160 Yeah, because straight porn guys doing sex photoshoots with women always say, "Hey, take that dildo out of your pussy and stick it in my ass. I'll even show you how to do it." (See R138).

R204 That's like a guy I knew who was straight, but had a fetish for huge cumshots and loved to have guys come on his chest. He'd come over and watch straight porn with me - he loved cumshot compilation videos. I'd come on him, which would make him come instantly. Then he'd clean up and leave.

A great video would be Peter North and Manuel Ferrara jacking off together and cumming all over each other.

Loads of fun - literally.

No one has explained how he attained legendary status, what that means and the criteria for it?

That "first" straight porn is a compilation tape of old scenes. It is mislabeled 1980. His first movie was the gay opus "Cousins" in 1983.

She is a liar.

R247 Except she has audio.

R245 He was very popular and well known. Even more so in straight porn than gay porn. He even has a wikipedia page, and those for porn stars are usually deleted by the anti porn editors there rather quickly unless there unless there is real claim to fame for them.

Is there like a Porn Hall of Fame somewhere and obscure like the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in Cleveland?

R250 There is a hall of fame, but it's not an actual building.

R251 And instead of being in the valley it’s in Fresno right?

North told TT Boy that a coworker at Jack LeLanne's gyms in CA introduced North to soft-core photographers which gave him exposure to pornographers who then invited him to do porn.

North's first photo shoots must have been for a gay photographer serving a male audience because he describes them as Athletic Model Guild-style beefcake modeling with "swords" and "chains."

Joey, do you like movies about gladiators?

R253 "And stuff like that...and stuff like that."

God, what a moron. Hard to believe he's 64 and still speaks like a high school student.

In his early days TT Boy used to be quite a cutie, but he looks evil now. Scary evil.

Actually, TT has mellowed some since back when he was hot. He used to major anger issues back then. There were interviews with him in Hustler Erotic Video Guide, The New Yorker and Details Magazine (the latter two were articles about male porn stars) from the mid 90s that made him sound like a real dim bulb with major anger issues.

If he didn't get so involved in his production company he formed not long after those interviews, I wouldn't be surprised if he ended up in jail for a long time or dead. That took up all of him time time for years since he did pretty much everything on his own and kept him out of trouble and he grew up some in the process. He is still well off financially these days.

He still is insecure under his macho image after all these years. Sad he needs to get validation multiple times in most of interviews with his guests.

I would guess that during that entire 3-hour interview @ R253, North at no point mentions anything about the male films that launched his career.

Yeah, I remember TT Boy asking Peter like 5 times that he was part of the original wave of great porn stars.

R258 Yes, no mention of his gay porn career at all. Not surprising at all either. Peter would be very happy if his gay porn vanished long ago and TT is not the most gay friendly person.

R260 See R76 for reasons why TT Boy wouldn't discuss gay porn with North.

R256 TT Boy is a plastic surgery addict like his brother. Lotsa insecurity goin' on there.

R253 At the 1:16:10 point, TT Boy says, "Okay, now we're gonna get down to the nitty gritty," and the look on Peter North's face is a mixture of fear and "Don't you dare."

When TT Boy then asks, "How did you get in the business," North's tense demeanor changes. You could tell he was afraid TT Boy was gonna go "there."

Peter supposedly turned down The Rialto Report interview request because he wasn't willing to discuss certain things (we all know what). As we seen in TT's show, he's a boring interview anyway so no loss. Other big names have turned them down too like Randy West.

R26 Not surprised North would turn down the Rialto Report - those folks do their homework and go all in. They did an interview with George Payne and spent quite a bit of time talking about his gay porn movies. To his credit, George Payne didn't pull any of the "I was young, I needed the money, I'm not gay" crap. He was very candid and even spoke very nicely about Casey Donovan and Jack Wrangler.

There's no way North would get through a Rialto Report interview.

At 1:21 in the interview, he says his first movie was in 1984, a scene with two girls and Biff Malibu. That movie would be "China and Silk."

Before that, in 1983, he had made the gay porn movies "Cousins" and a "Matter of Size."

Such selective memory.

R266 In the scene he was in in "China and Silk," he and Biff Malibu got awfully close together. I'm sure Peter enjoyed that.

He sure was comfortable doing DP scenes too. I always found those scenes very homoerotic.

[quote]In the scene he was in in "China and Silk," he and Biff Malibu got awfully close together. I'm sure Peter enjoyed that.

And Peter says Biff couldn't get it up and he an TT said Biff wasn't reliable.

I'd heard that about Biff Malibu too. That's why he never became a big star or frequently seen performer. He did do really well with his production company Anabolic video in the 1990s and early 2000s though. Lots of homoerotic situations in his movies too (DPs, muliple guys on girls).

Before viagra, that why you seen the same small pool of guys over and and over. Tom Byron, Marc Wallice, Peter North, Joey Silvera, TT Boy, Randy West, Jon Doe, Mike Horner, Mark Davis, Steve Drake, Vince Voyeur, ect. They could be counted on for being hard and cumming when needed.

R270- I would have also added Randy Spears, if only for being quite vocal while cumming when needed.

Um, don't forget me.

I used tot hink Randy Spears was the total package. Do yourself a favor and dont google him today. Im sorry I did. Rough isnt even the word for it,and hes a year younger than me !

Ron Jeremy, adult film star, indicted on rape and other sexual assault charges

A colleague, Neither TT or Peter had anything nice to say about him, and this interview was before Jeremy's arrest.

Randy Spears was really hot during his first stint in porn (circa 1987-1993) but was looking worn when he returned around 1998. He's a holier-than-though born again Christian and Trumpster these days. Ugh. A good amount of people who worked in the business has at least one drugged out Randy story. He used to be drug buddies with Jon Dough and Eric Price. Jon and Eric both ended up killing themselves years later.

Ron never had a lot of people in the industry who liked him. Even early in his career. He was always full of himself and letchy.

Eric Price was another one who did quite a bit of gay porn before he moved over to straight porn. He even used the same name in some of his gay videos, along with the names Charlie Stone, and Charlie Warner.

I knew Randy Spears had turned to religion, but I've heard nothing about him being a Trumpster. That is one instance where someone turning to religion probably saved his life. He was a gorgeous man in his early years, but I found him even hotter when he matured a bit. He also got noticeably more raunchy in his scenes during his early daddy years. He was one of the few straight male porn stars the camera people would make a point of concentrating on in his scenes. Most of the men in straight porn were little more than necessary props and the broads were the ones the camera spent the most time on. But Randy Spears was so sexy even straight men recognized what a sex god he was. They wanted to watch him to learn how to do the things he did.

I think for a 60 year old man he looks damn good. I'd gladly do him.

As of 2020 when he was 58 he was working in the seafood section in a HEB grocery store in Texas.

Randy Spears was the Chris Meloni of porn.

TT Boy interviewed Eric's ex-wife Paula Price recently, and boy did she not have much of a filter. They took it down after a few days, edited some stuff out (like 40+ minutes worth, not sure what they cut out but not listening again, TT's shows run way too long as are one time watches anyway). She said she didn't think Eric was gay, but he was was molested as child by a man. But so was she (by her father) and her sister (who did porn under than name Brittany and was also interview by TT). It was uncomfortable seeing TT asking her about it and she was very bothered by it.

She told a story about how Eric, Randy Spears, Jon Dough, and Tori Welles spent a drugged up weekend fucking in a motel. TT incredulously and a somewhat disgusted look on his face asked "the guys were doing each other too" and she said she really didn't know. Wouldn't be surprising. Briana Banks in her TT interview said she once found her then boyfriend Bobby Vitale (who also died a few years back) and Jon Dough nude in a model room together, stoned out of their minds. I think she said Bobby was passed out or something and Jon was crawling around on the floor nude looking for drugs.

R275 Randy Spears did a Rialto Report interview last year that you should listen to. He acknowledges that he is a Christian, but he is not the crazy, right wing, evangelical Christian people think he his. He talks about a video he made about being born again that was completely misconstrued.

He's religious, but not fanatical. And he's not anti-gay, and from all accounts, not a crazy MAGA cultist, either. It's a good podcast.

Eric Price was so hot.

Shame he offed himself.

Like a number of guys on here, Peter getting fucked by Rick Donovan was HOT! I don't think Rick ever bottomed or sucked, right?

R278, I hadn't heard that Bobby Vitale died. What was the cause of death?

Spears came across as smug to me at times in his Rialto interview. He used to have a Facebook account under his real name and some the stuff he posted and liked indicated he was a conservative republican. Maybe not full on MAGA nut job, but probably voted for Trump and most other rupublicans.

But several other performers from his era seem to fall into Republican/Trumpster/consperacy theorist: Tony Tedeschi (big time annoying MAGA), Tony Martino, Brick Majors, John West, Evan Stone, Nick East (big conspiracy theorist nut job).

There are some liberal/democrats too though: Mike Horner, Richard Pacheco, Rick Savage, Herschel Savage and Tom Chapman.

R282 I don't know what he died of, those who posed about it (where he worked, crossfit enthusiast friends and his mother) gave no clues how he died. I'd guess made he had a drug relapse or issues due to years of hard drug abuse.

After leaving porn, he eventually got sober and got into crossfit big time and taught classes for it. He used an altered version of his first name and middle name, probably in attempts to be found or recogized as "Bobby Vitale."

Here is a picture of him not long before he died. He looked good, but older.

R278 There had long been rumors that Bobby Vitale swung both ways, so it wouldn't surprise me to find out he and John Dough spent the weekend together in a motel.

R284 He looked like a hot daddy there. He had a hot body and dick, but the poor guy had no testicles.

I remember he was injured in a car accident and was confined to a wheelchair for a while. I wonder if his death was somehow related to that. It's odd that his cause of death doesn't seem to be listed anywhere.

R283 I expected Spears to be a full-on God Squadder based on the "born again" video I had seen of him, but I was pleasantly surprised to discover he wasn't that at all. Yes, he's religious, but it's a personal thing for him and he doesn't try and force his beliefs on others or judge others, which was refreshing.

I also didn't know he was friends with Seth MacFarlane and had done some voice work on Family Guy.

R286 It really did look like he had no testicles times. Very strange. I wonder if he was on steroids at one point? That could account for his balls.

About the accident that left him in the wheelchair. They originally claimed someone hit him with a car in a grocery store parking lot, but his ex Briana Banks later admitted she backed into him with their car in their garage. She claimed it was dark and she didn't see him.

Both were major addicts and tons of batshit crazy things happened with them. He tried to kill her several times. Once when he was with her on one her stripping gigs, he tried cutting off one her fingers right before her show was supposed to start, but just managed to cut the tip off. She put a glove on and went out on stage to dance, until the blood started pooling out and she started to almost pass out. They had to rush her to the emergency room. I think she talked about this on TT's show or Holly Randall's, maybe both. Holly's shows are easier to watch.

R288 Jeezus, what a couple of messes. No wonder he's dead now.

I'm assuming she didn't say anything about Bobby and his alleged trysts with Vince Voyeur. Apparently, those two fooled around together.

I have always felt that most of the guys in straight porn are so hypersexual they're not adverse to playing around with other guys at times. I've heard many stories about Jon Dough over the years. Many years back I read an interview done with him and he made the comment that he rarely had sex outside of his porn shoots and that he mainly just masturbated. It was quite obvious in that interview there were some deep seated emotional issues going on with him. His deep depression came through in his words very clearly. Then I read he'd committed suicide, and it all sort of fell into place.

I think it would be hard for anyone (male or female) to be around so much sleaziness on a continual basis, as you find in the porn business, for it not to at some point start to affect your own life, and either cause you to join in or get out completely. I know Richard Pacheco & Jon Martin left porn and eventually came out against it completely, saying it was a life destroying line of work.

In his early years Jon Dough was, along with Randy Spears (a frequent scene partner), the two most gorgeous men in straight porn to my eyes. Dough also had the distinction of being the only man I've ever seen who always produced a double stream cum shot. There was clearly something about the way the meatus (the pee hole) of his penis was formed that split his cum shots (and I assume his urination) into 2 streams. Then later on in his career he went from being gorgeous to somewhat sleazy looking. He got ugly tattoos and grew his hair out really long and kept it usually in a ponytail. I suspected something was going on in his life that wasn't exactly nice.

One of the few guys in straight porn I've read a lot about and have seen interviews with, and have always had the impression that if anyone in that business had his head together, it was Mike Horner. I may be totally mistaken but he comes off as a very smart, intelligent man who didn't seem to have any of the all too often weirdness about him that you see in so many porn performers. I guess he could be exactly what he appeared to be, a smart and intelligent man, who just happened to be highly sexual.

It has been said for many years that Tom Byron has a genius IQ. I read something about him a few years ago and it seemed he had hit the skids at some point and was in dire straights financially and was working some very menial job. I don't know what ever happened with him.

TT kept asking North about the woman,...was she hot? Was she good? North didn't seem to want to play. TT doesn't seem to have any respect women.

No he doesn't. It's almost like he's deliberately trying to hurt them in his scenes.

I remember a hot scene with Eric Price and late 80s stud Brad Mitchell in Heat In The Night.

Jon Dough had a lot of issues prior to porn. He was interviewed in the book Pornstar by Ian Gittler and he told Gittler that he was constantly fighting his inner demons. He had a major drug habit on and off for years. He secord wife, Monique Demoan said he killed himself because he recently relapsed on drugs again (meth) and felt his situation was hopeless. She also had a drug problem but got it together and moved out of California with her daughter she had with Jon. Gittler mentioned Jon's feminine moans in his book, you could tell he suspected he was either bi or gay but didn't come out and say it.

Mike Horner is very sane, smart and together. He never died drugs or get too caught with the negative aspects of the business. Even Jerry Butler didn't have anything bad to say about him in his book. He seems content leading a low profile life these days.

Tom Byron is smart too, but didn't save any money he had made from porn. But he's a slacker without focus. He has often had to rely on his friend, former porn director Rob Black since for a place to stay and for employment. Because of his association with Black, who was very disliked in porn, many turned against Tom too. Lately, he's been working on a book about his life with writer Mike Sager. Hopefully he finishes that. It might help out his finacial problems and might not have to be so reliant on Black.

A short excerpt from the Paula Price (Eric Price's ex wife) where she talked about how crazy Jon would get when doing drugs. How he'd beat his wife Deidre Holland and wanted to shot and kill her one time and she ran to Paula and Eric's house to hide from him. She also tells a crazy story how Jon and Eric shot a dealer that ripped then off in the chest with a crossbow, barely missing his heart.

So much crazy porn drama.

I think I remember an interview Jon Dough gave in which he said he was offered a million dollars to be in a gay porn film but flatly turned it down.

Mike Horner used to work out at my gym. He was a good performer with a nice cumshot.

Nobody, I repeat, NOBODY, ever offered Jon Dough, or any other straight or gay pornstar $1 million to be in a porn video, unless it was done as some sort of a joke. Nope, didn't happen.

No man in straight porn had the ability to show how much he was enjoying what he was doing a sex scene more than Mike Horner. You could feel the absolute glee he was experiencing. The expressions he'd get on his face when he'd really get going were priceless. The were the expressions of absolutely hyper lust & passion.

OMG, Mike Horner!!!!!

Any gay sex rumors??????????

Who knows? In the 80s, on coke, maybe looking for a new thrill. Quite possible he's had experiences with men.

Mike Horner, Steve Drake, and Robert Bullock all seemed to have a vibe that the could get into some man-on-man action back then.

R290 Richard Pacheco and Jon Martin have not come out against porn. In fact, they frequently give interviews about their porn careers, and for the most part, look back upon those years fondly. Pacheco has even written an autobiography, "Hindsight," which is very good. Long, but good. Pacheco actually quit porn in the 1980s at his wife's insistence because of the threat of AIDS.

Jon Martin was pretty smart. He actually always maintained a full-time job (I think it was with the San Francisco municipal railway) and did porn on the side, so when he left the industry completely, it wasn't a difficult transition for him.

R290 I read an interview with Julian Rios, probably 6 or 7 years ago, and he acknowledged that on porn sets, the sexual tension is always high, so it's not altogether unusual for the guys to sometimes hook up on the side.

Someone asked him if ever had, and he was rather coy in his answer, not saying "yes" and not saying "no." He did tell a story about doing a DP scene with straight porn star Voodoo, a cute little twink with a huge uncut dick, and Voodoo's then-wife, Nicole Sheridan. He said things got very hot during the scene and started to venture into not-so-straight territory. After the shoot, Voodoo approached him and asked him if he could suck Julian's dick. His wife had given him permission. Julian never said if he fulfilled Voodoo's fantasy. My guess is that he did.

One of Julian's exes confirmed that Julian now identifies as "bisexual" and even had a regular male lover as well as a female at the same time.

I guess Julian Rios forgot to mention the scene he did with Troy Halston and some broad where he let them both suck his cock.

[quote]Tom Byron is smart too, but didn't save any money he had made from porn.

No guys got rich performing in porn. The girls later in the 90's would sign contracts but they burned out quickly. Guys in the 80's would get $100 a day, about $250 in today's dollars and that didn't take anyone to Beverly Hills. Performers almost never got anything after they walked off the set, no cut of the gross when they were in theaters or cut of the VHS/DVD sales.

Mike Horner showing just how crazed with lust he can get.

One of the few who did get relatively well off from porn was Peter North, and that was only because he started his own studio. He never got rich from working for other people. Can't vouch for how well he handled his money though.

R305 No, Julian has acknowledged doing this movie. He said that when he was first getting started in porn, he tried to cover it up, but as he matured, he got more comfortable with it and actually used to post clips from the movie on his Tumblr page when had it. He admits to being sexually attracted to men, as well as women.

R304 And yes, on Tumblr, Julian used to post frequently about how he lived with with both a man and a woman. I believe that relationship eventually fizzled out. He no longer maintains his Tumblr page, so I'm not sure what he's up to these days.

I read a few years back that Julian Rios was 100% away from the porn business. I just can't remember exactly what the article claimed he was doing for a living, other than to remember it had nothing to do with the film or entertainment industry in any way. It was some sort of very mundane 9 to 5 type of job. May have even been construction.

Here are some images I pulled off the web that are outside the porn world, and seemingly long after he was out of that milieu. Have no idea who the toddler is he's having a grand ole time with in the swings. But clearly he's reached classic daddy stage of his life.

R302 Voodoo was such a sexy little hottie back in the day. He really should've done gay porn. He did do a solo video once where he showed hole.

R310 That little girl in the photo is his daughter. He also has a son. I'm not sure if they're both from the same mother, though.

Julian looks like a hot daddy. I'd hit it.

That picture of him with his daughter in R310 is really cute. I love a hot daddy who loves his kids.

R312 I remember him saying on his Tumblr page that his son lives with his mother in Morocco. I'm pretty sure his daughter is from a different relationship, and I think she's in the LA area like him.

R290 In his autobiography, Richard Pacheco talks about having gay affairs during his early hippy years in Berkeley.

I also think he was truly in love with fellow actor John Leslie. Their onscreen chemistry really was something, and in his book, he writes about him like a lover would. He was truly devastated when Leslie died. I wonder if the two of them ever got busy together.

Howie Gordon (Richard Pacheco) has been friends with Whoopi Goldberg since before either were famous. They were neighbors in San Francisco and she wrote the foreword to his autobiography...Hindsight: True Love & Mischief in the Golden Age of Porn.

R316 I think they still live close to each in Berkeley, don't they? I know he still lives there, and I thought he mentioned they were neighbors.

Mike Horner reminded me of Hans Gruber from Die Hard. He fucked like a rabbit. Nice lean body for someone who looked a bit older than the other 80s regulars. Decent face.

R318 Mike Horner had a great body and a decent dick and seemed to enjoy what he did. I wish he didn't have that porn stache, though. He'd have been much more handsome without it.

[quote]Any cunt who'd be stupid enough to marry a former porn star who's fucked a million holes, male and female, deserves whatever crap she gets.

Fuck you, R12

[quote]It has been said for many years that Tom Byron has a genius IQ. I read something about him a few years ago and it seemed he had hit the skids at some point and was in dire straights financially and was working some very menial job. I don't know what ever happened with him.

The Rialto Report had a fundraiser for him a few years ago (maybe 4-5 years ago?). He was driving an Uber. He quit driving to write his book.

Mike Horner was much hotter WITH his sexy mustache.

[quote]I think they still live close to each in Berkeley, don't they? I know he still lives there, and I thought he mentioned they were neighbors.

Her daughter might be neighbors but Whoopi lives in Jersey full time.

R323.

does he get his ass eaten in his straight videos?

I answered my own question in four seconds, sorry.

Here's Mike Horner with a beard, a much better look than the mustache

R326 He was lovin' that.

We need a Mike Horner Appreciation thread!

I've never found any solos of his, unfortunately.

I can't stand seeing the women in his scenes, but Mike Horner (WITH the mustache!) is the perfect look for me.

You were raised right R329. Mike Horner was the most gorgeous man ever during his porn years. Actually he's still a damn fine looking man. Gorgeous without having to tart himself up. He never did anything stupid with his hair. He didn't fall prey to the current trends in personal looks so many porn stars did and still do. You could tell he was a man who woke up every day, did the normal daily ablutions, and put on clothes he was comfortable wearing and went about his day. And the result was always magnificence with minimal effort.

Forgot the image of Mike Horner in his later years.

Here's a more recent pic of Mike Horner, from 2019. He's still in great shape for his age.

About John Leslie and Richard Pacheco. They didn't hit if off right away, but became very good friends soon afterwards and remained very close up to John's death. Richard really did adore him and might have had a slight crush on him. John was about the straightest guy ever in porn though. He was an old-school italian in some ways, but was very liberal socially and politically.

Wrong, r330.

You've aggrandized a bunch of sub-basic bitches in this thread. Mike Horner, Tom Byron and Jon Dough are fugly, scrawny and unremarkable men.

In what world would Mike Horner ever be considered "ugly?"

He's very handsome and EXTREMELY HOT!

Mike could still get this ass ! he looks great !

R283 Where and how are you following all these guys?? I tried to follow Martino under his real name on Facebook that didn't work.

"Tony Tedeschi (big time annoying MAGA), Tony Martino, Brick Majors, John West, Evan Stone, Nick East (big conspiracy theorist nut job).

There are some liberal/democrats too though: Mike Horner, Richard Pacheco, Rick Savage, Herschel Savage and Tom Chapman".

Porn actors, like “real” actors, don’t get work because of their high IQs. Brian Surewood is another you can add to the list of conspiracy nutjobs.

I have always had a fetish for facial hair, especially mustaches, and I still have a dozen hardcore magazines of Mike Horner in the back of the walk-in closet. And bunch of 8mm reels but alas, no projector.

Obviously Matt has gotten fucked, but does he also suck cock?

R336 Most of these guys on Facebook. Martino didn't seem to post much unless it was set for friends only to see. His 'likes' gave away he was a Trumpster. Liked Donald, Ivanka, and a host of conservative pages/talking heads.

R337 Yes, he is. Quite a bit of the modern male stars are too. Dick Cibbles in particular seems to be an obsessed nutjob deplorable. His twutter feed is vile.

Biff Malibu discussed upthread is also a Trumpster.

R339 He never sucked cock on camera. Not sure about off screen.

R340, why are so many of the older porn stars Trump supporters?

R333 if you think Mike Horner and Jon Dough are "scrawny" & "fugly" your eyesight must surely be failing.

Nice humblebrag, R338.

342 I think because lot of straight men in general tend to be republican or republican leaning, plus it not uncommon for people to become more consevative as they get older. There are always exceptions, of course. And like said, there are some younger ones who are too. A lot of the G4P guy from Sean Cody are Trumpsters too.

Oh, and I said nothing about Tom Byron R333. But I do agree he was rather scrawny and (at least to me) not very attractive.

Byron was scawny in the 80s. But by early 90s, he bulked up some. That was when he crew his hair out and had that rocker type look. But the late 90s, he cut his hair and started looking better. I actually think he looks better in recent years, than he did when he was super prolific. Back in the 80s and 90s it was hard to find a movie without either him or Marc Wallice.

Byron's rocker look was awful. As was Marc Wallice's.

I was more of a Randy Spears guy myself.

Spears and Horner were IMHO the 2 biggest sex gods in straight porn.

R343, that pic you posted isn't helping your case... gross. I wouldn't touch either guy with a ten foot poll. BLech.

Eric Edwards was handsome. Good interview on The Rialto Report, he says he was never offered gay, but when asked in a scene where he took a dildo up his butt and if it was a stunt butt, he says it was him even though it was shot where you can't tell.

Mike Horner was not at all attractive to me at all. The first porn I ever saw had Mike Ranger in it and I thought he was beautiful. I also liked Tom Byron, probably because he looked like a goofy next neighbor kid. He had the same appeal to me as David Ashfield from gay porn. There was this one guy in straight porn, Gregor Samsa who I thought was hot as fuck.

I heard Mike Ranger married a woman who ironically is very anti porn. I guess she knows about his porn career beause I found her facebook page a while back and there are zero photos of Mike there. He doesn't have an account, as she apparently keeps him on a short leash. He did spreak to a few of the people he knew from his porn days in recent years without his wife knowing, but I wouldn't count on him doing something like a Rialto Report interview.

R352 I know Eric, and I can tell you that indeed he took the dildo up the ass. He said he only agreed to do it because he was really turned on by the girls in the scene. Other trivia - that scene was filmed in his New York apartment on a bed that he made himself.

There was a loop of Eric Edwards and his then girlfriend Arcadia Lake where she gave him a rimjob. It was short, but there was an exreme close up shot of his hole. Not something very common in those days.

Jeffrey Hurst is rimmed in a scene from 1974 or so.

Jeffrey Hurst was a hottie, too. Small dick, though.

Jeffrey Hurst also did mainstream acting as "Jeff Eagle." I remember seeing him in a Fantasy Island episode.

Jeff Eagle is his real name. He did have some luck with mainstream. His most substantial gig was probably a 6 month gig on Days of Our Lives in 1984.

He became a massage therapist after his mainstream career stalled. Seems happy, sane and married to the same woman for decades.

An old friend did a scene with Peter back in the early 90s.

She said he made her orgasm twice (which never happens on porn sets) and he had the best tasting cum of any of the guys she ever shot with. She said his pop shots were very powerful and just feeling it splash on her skin was very "exhilarating."

She loved Mike Horner and Jerry Butler (who always made her giggle).

Eric Price grossed her out cause he sweat so much and Tom Byron had funky b.o. Marc Wallice was gay and str8 for pay but his dick was so perfect for extended vaginal and anal filming, so no ladies ever complained.

She also adored Ron Jeremy, so take that for what it's worth.

R361 Who is this old friend, Rhonda Jo Petty? I think she's the only one who loves Ron Jeremy.

R283 Herschel Savage is another "golden age" porn star who's liberal and vocally anti-Trump.

He's on Facebook, and speaking of Rhonda Jo Petty, she once posted some anti-Biden shit on her Facebook page and he eviscerated her for it. She is one stupid old bitch.

I love Herschel Savage's brief mustache period in 1985.

God that TT Boy is a terrible interviewer, he doesn't listen to someone siting two fee in front of him. Just listened Eric Edwards, besides rating all the women, he would ask the same question twoor three times. Just awful.

R365 Eric Edwards told me his interview with TT Boy was excruciating and that TT Boy kept asking him, "Was I good actor?"

[quote] Voodoo was such a sexy little hottie back in the day. He really should've done gay porn. He did do a solo video once where he showed hole.

I had the biggest crush on Voodoo back in the day. That was until I came across his profile on Twitter. He's a major MAGA asshole.

I've always been of the opinion that TT Boy is little more than a halfwit. He does not come off very intelligent. And besides that he reeks of sleaziness. He's like some little mafia mook who thinks he's far more important than he is.

Eric Edwards seemed uncomfortable several times in that interview with TT for sure.

TT claimed he studied acting Lee Strasberg Institute, even though he said porn acting was a joke. Maybe mail order classes?

Rhonda Jo Petty is a mess, but's it's no surprising given her background. Abusive father and had a major drug problem on and off for years.

I've found many of female stars back then to be pretty cool people. Veronica Hart, Georgina Spelvin and Jeanne Silver are real sweet

R342 The porn actors of the 80s/90s are all old (mostly) white guys now, which tends to be a very MAGA demo.

Will someone please post links for the real crazy ones that have been out of porn for awhile.

Tedshedchi? Surewood? B Majors? Ect

TIA

I am Googling how to find a straight male is a straight male porn star's real name?

Nothing,

R363, it's good to hear that Herschel Savage is anti-Trump.

R367, it's a bit surprising that Voodoo is a MAGA supporter since he is Canadian and Latino.

R369 I don't give Rhonda Jo Petty a pass because she grew up in an abusive household and drug/alcohol problems. That describes 90% of women who end up in porn. In fact, you'd think that having been through all of that, she'd have a bit more empathy and wouldn't be aligning herself with a monstrous pig like Trump.

If you look at her Facebook page, she's barely literate. She posts pro-Trump stuff, and when people call her out on it, she says, "Don't talk politics on my page!" Uh, bitch, you're talking politics on your page.

I agree that Veronica Hart, Jeanne Silver, and Georgina Spelvin are all very sweet and bright.

Tony Tedeshi was another rough fucker, wasn't he?

Frank Towers, who's done straight, gay, and bi porn, is active on Facebook and is certifiably nuts. He seems to be schizophrenic, with lots of posts about the government spying on him and stealing his money. He's also an anti-vaxer. Surprise, surprise.

Tony often commented on Mike Horner's liberal posts with BS conservative talking points, which Mike shot down with facts. He had no credible responses, of course.

Frank seems to be misled easily. Not surprised he hell down that rabbit hole. He had trouble getting regular work in straight porn after doing gay porn. He moved in to the the health care field, but claimed he fired when the hospital he worked at found out about his past porn career. I think he fell on hard times after that, and was living with his parents for a while. He was planning on living in a camper trailer his father left him, but it ended up burning down. He had a facebook fundraiser that few people donated to.

Oh, and a few others that were liberals - R. Bolla and Carter Stevens. Both dead now, sadly. I spoke on the phone once with him. He was very smart and sweet, despite being pretty ill at the time. He was very flattered when I told him I thought he was a very good actor and was familiar with his work, porn and non-porn.

To clarify, It was R. Bolla I spoke with.

I like R.'s sister, E. Bolla.

R377 Frank Towers is claiming on Facebook that OnlyFans owes him hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Don't think so.

R378 Richard Bolla was a good actor. I remember seeing Debbie Does Dallas, then The Goodbye Girl and recognizing him as one of Richard Dreyfuss' actor friends. I also recognized him in a small part as a tugboat captain in one of the Spiderman movies.

I think the most fascinating part of this thread is how some of you found these people on Facebook.

What ever became of Rick Donovan?

R377 Mike Horner is very smart and an cut a MAGA idiot down with a single, well-researched statement. I love him.

R383 A lot of them use their porn names on Facebook. It's pretty easy to find a lot of them.

R381 He posted that stuff on personal facebook not his porn related one and that was a few years ago. It is him because the account had up personal childhood and teenage photos of him and his family and several of his friends appeared to be his family. I don't care about him that much to constantly follow him. I don't even follow his Frank Towers account.

As with Peter North, I've seen Greg Roma is gay and straight movies. He was a cute blonde boy. What ever became of him? He seemed gay to me but never got fucked.

R387 Frank Towers has been posting about OnlyFans owing him thousands within the last month.

Tony Tedeschi was hot.

R388 Greg Rome was living in Canada last time I checked (several years ago) and was doing bodybuilding under his real name. He had gotten huge, to the point of looking gross. I've heard he swung both way and used to turn tricks with men when his porn career was going slow. He would even show his porn boxcovers to potential clients. Rumor was he also served a stint in jail, for what, I'm not sure.

Greg Rome reminded me of Eric Carmen. I didn't know he did gay porn too. Any links?

Greg Rome was in the gay movies "Winners" and "Santa Monica Boulevard"). He did some solo ones too, but those two are the ones where he has sex with men.

Here's a edited down clip of him in Santa Monica Boulevard. The original is close to 20 minutes.

Actually I'm kind of not surprised Greg Rome did gay porn. He had a much more muscular physique than other straight performers of the 80s. Definitely more what you would find in gay porn.

Wasn't Greg Rome actually discovered on Santa Monica Boulevard in WeHo as a street hustler? I thought that's why they cast him in the "Santa Monica Boulevard" porn video.

Liberal or not, wasn't Mike Horner one of the guys who got off on hurting the women he was fucking?

R375 & R390, Tony Tedeschi is best known for his huge mushroom head dick.

[quote] wasn't Mike Horner one of the guys who got off on hurting the women he was fucking?

Certainly not. Mike Horner was just a very passionate lover & his facial expressions during sex showed it, and clearly all the gals loved that about him. He knew how to throw a good fuck.

Mike Horner fucked like he just did lines with Stevie Nicks.

Christy Canyon said she was genuinely in love with Mike Horner.

A DLer must've created this Instagram account.

No love here, then, for Sulka? And I don't mean the haberdasher.

R401 The 70s were fucking gross. Hairy smoking disease ridden men! Yuck. I prefer the hairless twink look of modern day. Body hair in men has been gross since at least the 90s.

Please someone start a thread on old school 80 's and 90's str8 porn studs.

The stuff some DL'rs know on this subject is gold.

TIA

[quote]I prefer the hairless twink

Those are called children.

Judging by his rage fuck face Horner looks like he's enjoyed slapping a woman or two around.

What's stopping you, R404?

Do we have the real names of Greg Roma or Mason Jarr? How come we know Peter North's real name?

You don't even have Greg's real porn name - it's Rome, not Roma.

[quote] In fact, he had a reputation among women in porn for being good to work with.

LOL! Because there's no higher testament than that of a female pornstar. What exactly is a gentleman to them? A guy who hands you a towel after he's unloaded on your face?

[quote]Please someone start a thread on old school 80 's and 90's str8 porn studs.

Someone already did:

That was me who started it. But it petered out quickly. Pun intended.

God bless you R412

I will be there lots to talk about.