The Talented Miss Ripley

Proper link is here.

What's the point of being a star if you can't use the groupies?

[Quote] Ripley would also allegedly engage in sexual conversations with Brie Lynn, who admits that she would initiate those talks. “There were instances where I would bring up a sexual situation that might have involved a specific sexual act, and she was not shutting down those conversations, she was participating in them,” Brie Lynn alleges. “She was responding to this back and forth. I’m 25, I can’t imagine getting a message like that from a kid and doing anything other than immediately leaving the conversation.”

Hmmm.

This is a garbage story not quite at the level of the infamous failed babe.net Aziz Ansari takedown, but pretty close.

"I'm a victim, make me famous."

People are jerks. Grow up.

"Ripley would also allegedly engage in sexual conversations with Brie Lynn, who admits that she would initiate those talks"

... says it all.

Who was grooming whom here?

"I'm going to entrap a Broadway star who is nuttier than a fruitcake so I can be internet-famous for a minute" seems like a typically logical millennial/Gen Z career plan.

What he fuck? What did she do that was illegal? Why does this story exist?

I don't really know too much about Alice Ripley. I think I may have seen her in Sunset Boulevard. But if her career suffers due to THIS bullshit, I'm utterly astounded. It's like the James Franco accusations. Yes, sometimes actors are assholes. And horny. It's been that way since forever.

WHO GIVES A FUCK? Jesus Christ this is all so absurd.

A lot of girls saying the same thing about “boundaries” and “trauma,” but no one alleges anything illegal. They freely admit they projected mother/sister relationships onto her.

They are all upset that she gave and withheld attention as she saw fit. Manipulative and needy? Maybe. That’s not abuse and it’s not grooming.

I really can't believe the media is allowing themselves to be complicit in this bullshit.

Again, I don't really know Alice Ripley, so I'm not a fan. But, she's absolutely being railroaded here.

#MeToo bags another lover

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This is female adolescent hormones gone awry. Where the fuck are are their parents? She needs to be like Pence and always have a male assistant in the room when surrounded by female groupies.

If an adolescent is alluding to sex in front of you- and you do nothing, how is that grooming, being compliant or acquiescing? To accuse a minor is to insinuate somehow you had encouraged the behavior.

As an actor or celebrity I’d think the best thing to do is say nothing because it could be recorded and misconstrued, taken out of context, or patched together later to make you look guilty or bad.

“Sexual harassment” is just a right-wing scare phrase used to intimidate people into voting for Republicans.

Yeah just a right-wing scare phrase

Witch hunt.

Who knew Alice Ripley was the R. Kelly of Broadway, she’s quite the gangsta!

Did she really tweet that cigarette butt comment?

Yeah I'm not seeing anything big here. Not to victim-shame but...if you chase a celeb who you sexualize because you're confused, um.....WTF does that have to do with the celeb?

Shit like this makes me understand why celebs panic and bolt from "fans" rather than make small talk.

....but of course we don't know what exactly Alice said or did. If she slept with any of them, she's toast.

It sounds pretty overwrought at the moment.

I remember meeting some of her 'fans' a group of mentally ill young folks whom she was very kind to.

This is all about the mental illness of the girls.

Young girls scorned and seeking attention. History repeating itself- willing to do anything for attention including destroying others.

I'd be so creeped out if I had fans approaching me like that. To encourage it, even creepier. This girls are self-admittedly troubled.

Ripley tried to be kind, it was less about encouragement and more about reaching out to clearly troubled kids.

Kind? "Cigarette butt"?

What’s her fan club called, “Alice’s Young Troubled Muffdivers?”

So what exactly is Alice's crime?

Befriending these kids? Or ending the relationships?

We keep hearing that these were unhealthy relationships and Alice should not have ended them.

This is why I block EVERY trans profile on Grindr. Oh, and the majority are ages 18-25, which people forget is an adult.

I’m still worried if Jennifer had an unhealthy relationship with her in NtN, she was very young when she started?

I'm with you, R18, and the Witch Trials was exactly what I was thinking of, too. Has it really come to this? " She comes to me while I sleep; She's always making me dream corruptions!"

It's time for #MeToo to go after abusive women.

“I saw Goodie Ripley cavorting with the Devil and young girls on Facebook!”

She'll get away with this because she's a woman.

[quote] “I saw Goodie Ripley cavorting with the Devil and young girls on Facebook!”

And I saw Goodie Chenoweth fornicating out of wedlock with Aaron Sorkin.

Does Ripley personally run her social media? Don’t they usually have assistants or something for that?

Has Emily Skinner commented yet, or is she pulling a Susan Dey?

*gasp* Drama on Broadway!

These women are mentally ill. One of them even admits to being a borderline in the daily beast article.

Ripley’s mistake was having any contact with them at all. It probably came from a good place (or just needy) but you never befriend or even engage with a group of crazy teenage girls. Especially as an adult. She should have known better but actors have bad boundaries and like attention.

I read the twitter stuff they are posting and it’s all bullshit. She set boundaries when they became too much and they went nuts and called that trauma. One of them called it grooming because she came to NY for college and Ripley got her a winter coat because she didn’t have adequate clothes for the cold weather.

Ridiculous. You just cannot engage with fans. Never a good idea.

Is the 21st Century version of Single White Female?

I am standing 100% behind Alice Rickey, whoever she is.

Ripley's deleted tweet shows that she's a nasty piece of work.

None are alleging any sexual contact, attempt at sexual contact or any form of ACTUAL abuse. The 25 year old who started this expressed herself by lip syncing to a song? WTF? 25 fucking years old and she can't find her words? They should be sued for libel

So.....her big crime was being a flaky actress type who had a bit of a narcissistic streak? Yawn. The young uns today have some great qualities ( a willingness to speak out about serious injustice) but they are way too sensitive to the idea of any imperfect relationship " destroying" them. Adults aren't perfect beings, that's a lesson every young person learns at some point.

[quote] Ripley's deleted tweet shows that she's a nasty piece of work.

What does it say?

Actually, it was an Instagram caption, which she later altered.

[Quote] "A piece of trash’s attempt to mar my world = a sad, shameful and discarded cigarette butt #failed,” per the Daily Beast.

That cigarette butt part... I can well believe Ripley is a sicko. That doesn't mean she laid a hand on these girls. But did she do damage to already vulnerable minors? It would not surprise me in the least.

There is nothing wrong with the “cigarette butt” quote. Those fucked up, loony kids tried to ruin her—she doesn’t owe them politeness.

The cigarette butt quote shows that power, hers over those girls, is very important to Miss Ripley.

[Quote] There is nothing wrong with the “cigarette butt” quote. Those fucked up, loony kids tried to ruin her—she doesn’t owe them politeness.

Well, she changed the caption to "A beautiful world awaits." She knows she fucked up by letting the mask slip.

As it should be, R44.

Once again—I stand firmly behind her, 100%.

Are you a fan type as well?

The cigarette tweet wasn't exactly restrained. And yeah Ripley is probably a typical unstable narc actress . But these young women are essentially trying to destroy her career. They know full well what people picture when they hear the words " grooming" and " teen girl" in the same sentence.

I am actually very supportive of the me too movement that put an end to Harvey Weinstein and Scott Rudin. But if being a narcissist is going to get you cancelled. Broadway is going to be pretty fucking boring. Talented people tend to have a big impact on those around them. "Woke" casting has already given us some unfortunate casting decisions. We can't give up narcissists.

The accusers seem to be most upset that Ripley finally set a boundary with them. And because there was nothing to get her with, they start using sexually charged language, describing their interactions as grooming.

Or they throw around the term "abusive," without actually specifying anything that sounds like abuse.

Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.

Yes, r48, the use of the word grooming is very manipulative on the accuser's part. I don't agree with trial by social media. That said, I think both sides need to get help.

"Sexual harassment” is just a right-wing scare phrase used to intimidate people into voting for Republicans." I've read some crazy shit here but that might be the craziest. Repugs are covertly running the #metoo movement?

I think the story that when one of them got a girlfriend, Ripley immediately dropped contact to curt responses is telling. Alice Ripley, or any adult, should not pursue friendships with minors. Do not go for "quick dinners" (another term that has warning bells sounding, for me) with them. Do not buy them winter coats. Do not DM with them.

Miss Ripley is a red flag unto herself.

R56 or it can be that when Ripley saw that these girls finally found support in their own lives, she bowed out.

[quote] Brie Lynn told The Daily Beast that she had spent years healing from her relationship with Ripley and was moved to post the video after hearing Billie Eilish’s new song “Happier Than Ever” and feeling she could relate to it.

I’m sorry for the anguish this person is going through, but having a pop song reveal some long-buried truths strikes me as shallow with a streak of lack of emotional development. As others have said, how can parents be so unaware of this evolving entanglement.

Brie Lynn is such a stupid fucking name.

Between that name and the idiotic tik tok she made…. Please. The girls all seemed like stalkers - obsessively coming to the stage door, seeing the show multiple times. Ripley should have never interacted with them but teenage girls can be manipulative too.

And so what re: the now deleted trash comment. Those women are trash.

Of course lesbian drama .

Is Ripley even a lez?

[quote] "Sexual harassment” is just a right-wing scare phrase used to intimidate people into voting for Republicans." I've read some crazy shit here but that might be the craziest. Repugs are covertly running the #metoo movement?

Not only that, but I think the GOP was pulling the strings the entire feminist movement the whole time just to undermine it. Helen Reddy could only get cast in movies with right-wingers like Chuck Heston and Mickey Rooney. Betty Ford supported the ERA.

"believe all women" is bullshit. If women were perfect beings, i'll believe all of them, but they're not. They're humans. Women can be oppurtunists, evil and sociopaths.

I cant imagine a bunch of sociopaths trying to ruin my career, my life because i wouldnt do what they wanted. And these girls are very charming sociopaths, they know all the right words to get people on their side.

Poor dear were "groomed", had no agency, as usual. Just "things" controlled by the evil abuser.

There are female pedos. Simone de Beauvoir was one. Mary Kay LeTourneau was another.

de Beauvoir a pedo? You sound stupidly american.

Read it and weep, R64, you xenophobic piece of dog shit:

Oh is this? I thought it was something tangible.

It was more than just that.

All the present-day push to groom children can be laid at the feet of people like this.

From the Guardian article: “But some at the time went further. Writer Tony Duvert praised "the great adventure of paedophilia" and raged at "the fascism of mothers"

The nerve of this cunt.

That Daily Beast article is the stupid thing I’ve ever read. Insanity like this is why I never give celebrities grief for keeping up a wall. I’d rather have a rep as a cold bitch than this shit. Superfans will either try to kill you or say you made them want to kill themselves.

“This grownup I idolized made me feel special and then stopped!!!!!!”

K.

At least this fucking aspie lying cunt hasn't gained too many followers on twitter from this bullshit.

Snort.

If I was young and putting together a punk rock band I would name it “The Toxic Behavior of #AliceRipley.”

Lesbian drama

Christ this is stupid.

I mean it’s an embarrassingly small hill to die on. Who aside from a few middle aged gay men and some damaged teenage theater girls know or give a fuck about Alice fucking Ripley?

I do feel bad for her though as this is certain to destroy whatever is left of her middling career.

Most people have an alice ripley type figure in their lives when they are young. Someone they adored or idolized who didn't feel quite as strongly about them or ultimately stay in their lives. That's life. But the vindictiveness and maudlin self pity these girls have over a sad but rather mundane live and learn experience is quite unsettling.

These girls are scary ! Very mendacious

What about her older brother Rodney who did those cheeseburger commercials back in the 1970s?

"Brie Lynn"

... that was the OTHER name I considered for my precious baby girl!

What kind of fool would name their child after a piece of cheese?

That personality disordered aspie enby is talking about someone trying to molest her in a way or something? Jesus, she wishes.

All I can say after reading the original Daily Beast article is that Billie Eilish needs to be watching her back.

Mare of Easttown said it best “Teen girls are fucking sneaky!”

If I was Miss Ripley, I'd file a restraining order against Brie Lynn.

“The Devil made me do it!”

We had taken my mom to Salem Witch Museum while Trump was still in office and what I’ve realized is that even if you cornered these girls, like a lot of people throughout the ages, they would genuinely believe themselves to be in the right or quickly blame someone else for their predicament. But Trump opened the door to this generation’s “doubling down” with their beliefs and accusations.

I think these mentally girls - now fraus - have been quietly waiting for the perfect opportunity to seek revenge on Ripley for distancing herself. They are probably thrilled they get to ruin what’s left of her career. The #metoo variant of accusing anyone you want of abuse and ruining their life via tiktok and twitter is horrible.

And going forward, this is why fans should be kept out of backstage areas and why actors should feel free to skip that stage door shit. These are unstable people.

The editors who allowed this piece to be published should be fired.

This is not newsworthy.

She sings flat and has turned into a fat whore. She deserves what she gets.

This is why the say "no good deed goes unpunished"

I find this fascinating because I was a teenage girl once, and know firsthand that teenage girls are the worst people ever. I also went to an all-girls boarding school and this is the type of shit that would happen every so often. Some weird girl would get a fixation. It was likely easier for a male teacher to rebuff and hold at arms-length. But I imagine the female teachers had a worse time fending it off. I can think of a few poor teachers who had this problem, who (I don’t think) were narcissists.

The Prime of Miss Alice Ripley

That post at R76 is hilarious. In what world is that incriminating? I know several people who are friends with Broadway performers on Facebook who send them comments like that or wish them a happy birthday. Are they being groomed as well? This is some real bullshit right here.

“i will be tender and violent all at once • she/they • BLACK LIVES MATTER • #insulin4all”

What’s galling is that these nutty girls have ANY support at all, but of course they would… it’s Twitter, after all.

You can bet good money that other Broadway performers are now making a mental note to not respond or converse with young fans EVER. Not worth it.

It’s funny how they are saying they saw the crazy one’s tik tok and then all had trauma responses. In actuality, they probably all got wet with excitement because they realized they could re-engage with the object of their obsession from all those years ago.

This is some pretty twisted shit. Mentally ill former stalkers publicly accusing her of being a pedophile.

R9y Lyin Cheese wrote a like 8 tweet dissertation on how performers can “appropriately” interact with young fans. I think Alice got too close and friendly, but holy shit she’s not Manson or that Smallville cult. It’s not worth getting close to fans. Be a cold bitch.

R97, Er — R99

The role in this play evidently was not much of a stretch for Ripley.

What madness is that in the link at r76? She publicly thanked a fan for following? And this traumatized this person? JFC.

Yes r102 and the lunatic felt just SICK about it knowing what she knows now about BRIE LYNN

Aspieness is far more prevalent in lesbians .

These girls reek of aspergers or borderline

Do they have brothers?

I have two female Broadway stars that follow me on social media. I'm not sure why they follow me, but I'm flattered. One Tony winner, one nominated for a Tony.

R107 sending you healing vibes.

Brie Lynn, lying cheese

R108 You don’t make any sense.

R109

Its sarcasm. How did you miss that?

Avoid these girls at all costs! Dana Delaney has had her share of obsessive lesbians who are cray!

R109 = one of the Aspie girls working through her Alice Ripley trauma. They do not recognize sarcasm or irony; they do not laugh.

Those poor young, straight American men. Hopefully they turn to other young, gay American men. At least they know to shut up.

There are no men involved here, GGG.

R114 But straight men have to fuck these unstable straight American crazy girls. I feel for them.

Aspies suck

I feel bad for Ms. Ripley. She should have been more aware and established boundaries earlier in these friendships. However, I can see how a busy, mildly narcissistic, and dramatically inclined adult might indulge in these relationships without considering the perspective of the teen admirers. The teens were a small part of her world while she was their whole world.

It appears Ms. Ripley may be guilty of poor judgment and some insensitivity but I would not call that abuse.

Hopefully she can just quietly ride this out until the hysterical Broadway fraufans find another person to attack.

I'm waiting for this to happen with the psychotic girls turned fraus I went to HS with who are STILL obsessed with the Backstreet Boys. We're in our 30s, one just had her first child and named him after Nick Carter. I can't imagine what it's like having your income dependent on...this.

Open for full effect. And yes, I know two of these women.

If you need any more reasons to lose faith in humanity...look at any celebrity's social media comments.

“Alice dear, have you made anymore special friends on the internet today?”

At least MY minion buys are attractive!

At least MY minion boys are attractive!

Her taste is horrible. If you're going to perv out, you should at least victimize someone attractive. They have a better chance after you screw them up to find someone else and move on. These girls? Destined to solitude.

How exactly did she "groom" them if there was no touching or suggestive language? was she moreso just being a glorified guru/cult leader to them?

I call myself "Phoebe."

By suggestive language, I mean she wasn't instigating. It sounds almost like the girls thought they were her friend and felt cold shouldered once things were over. I think they are more obsessed with her than vice versa.

Yes r126 exactly. Her lapse in judgment was engaging with these lunatics.

Supposedly the “victims” have posted “receipts” on Twitter in the form of screenshots. No idea where they are or how “incriminating” they are. The lesson to anyone encountering these chicks online should be, “Avoid these freaks at all costs. Do not hire them. Do not engage in conversation. Do not make eye contact.”

R128, I agree. It’s borderline personality coupled with possible autism. Which is SUPER TOXIC combo

R76 gives an example of the receipts that R128 is looking for.

All the responses to the tweet note how clearly traumatizing these interactions with Ripley were.

Is it a thank you note? Or is it grooming?

That is where we are.

Never piss off psycho, obsessed fans. It's the Crucible. Actually, don't ever engage them, ever.

Seriously, R130? What is traumatizing about that? What is it proof of, at all?

She called us her FRIENDS! She RAPED our HEARTS

This whole thread...people with sense trying to talk to the aspies

Eminem is generally moronic, but I think he nailed this exact type of mentally ill obsessive stalker behavior in the very prescient song "Stan." Except now these types of lunatics aren't seen as mentally ill because of MeToo, they are "traumatized victims" who are "speaking their truth." It's pathetic a woman's career might be seriously harmed because of some autistic lesbos and their hurt feelings.

Anytime something like this happens, I'm deeply deeply grateful that the internet was BARELY a thing when I was a Buffy-obsessed tween.

Yes, I know there were crazy online fans, but I had no idea how to find/join them

Her responses in those texts they are showing as “proof” are just NICE. These women are fucking crazy.

These girls are frightening

DL! We need to help Alice . Let’s stop this witch-hunt by these witches

If only Alice was a DLer… she could read this thread for support.

These crazies are relentless. Let them hang themselves with their own rope . Jackie Twitter wall is ludicrous

For a brief moment I thought this was about Alice Ghostley, which would have been ever so much more interesting.

She needs to sue them for libel. Question: can ones future earnings be garnished to pay recompense in such a suit cause these bitches probably don't have much cash on hand.

I like how the girl replying in the Tweet thread at R134 insists that 16-year-old girls aren’t ever interested in dressing sexy, because when SHE was 16, she was running with her dog and being autistic.

Like, wow: *you*? Autistic? No way.

Most 16 year old (straight) girls are obsessed with dressing sexy. And she didn’t truly ask that - she listed a bunch of style options and sexy was one of them.

These stupid bitches. I wish she could sue for libel.

R141 yes. The smartest thing ripley could do is make a simple statement wishing them well with their lives and then say nothing. Just let them talk and talk and talk. Their neurosis and sexual paranoia is visible from outer space.

This is going to be a great Broadway show, they should see if Ripley would like to workshop it with them playing herself!

[Quote] The smartest thing ripley could do

We saw Ripley's version of smart with that "cigarette butt" caption.

There are worse things I could do

Than flirt with a teen dyke or two

Even though the Twitterverse

Thinks I'm crazy and perverse

I suppose it could be true

But those dykes are crazy too

She should not engage. I know she have the right to sue them but those crazies want attention.

Just let them starve with their own "trauma".

Their Twitter posts demonstrate just how crazy they are .

Aspergers or borderline?

I vote borderline. Every mentally ill asshole has Aspergers now. These lezzies are just crazy.

K.

The fact that this guy uses “CW: child abuse / pedophilia” says all you need to say about this deranged community.

From link at R154….

—— I found it important to do this because this is such a sensitive issue that deserves research. Because I’ve seen too many comments on social media that clearly didn’t perform due diligence and, instead, simply (and disgustingly) diminished these young people. When I see comments like that, I shudder to think what it’s going to take for victims in this industry to be believed by this industry. —-

This is just outrageous. These borderlines are not VICTIMS. Ripley is the victim of having a group of lunatics destroy her career.

The person who wrote that article at R154 is known far and wide to be a reckless, shit-stirring idiot desperate for attention. He should have been sued for libel long ago, and we can only hope that will happen now.

It seems obvious what happened here. Alice Ripley had some devoted fans, and she thought it would be fun to be a mentor. After a while, she saw mentoring these girls was a lot less fun and a lot more work than she realized, so she ghosted them. She started out with good intentions, and then realized it was all too much for her.

Exactly what R158 said.

We need to get behind Alice !! This is evil

Yeah, I HATE that piece of garbage who writes that blog at R154. He should be ended, but no one actually reads him.

[Quote] She started out with good intentions, and then realized it was all too much for her.

No. The fact that she used the word "discarded" ("discarded cigarette butt" to boot!) shows that this was all a power trip for her. I can understand being enraged over the TikTok etc. but she told on herself with that Instagram caption. She did not have good intentions.

[quote]Yeah, I HATE that piece of garbage who writes that blog at [R154]. He should be ended, but no one actually reads him.

You're absolutely right, and that's the paradox: He's such a hateful piece of shit that he should definitely be ended, but it does seem that no one actually reads him until someone links to his garbage. When I do read his bullshit, I hope for him to be jailed or at least put out of business, but the reason that doesn't happen is that he has such an incredibly low profile. So I guess I'm glad for that in one way but sorry in another.

I happen to know (second hand) that Ripley has reached out to young female fans in crisis, but as far as I know, there was no shady shit involved.

I'm unclear about the exact allegations?? This is really a stretch insofar as a legit scandal.

I don’t think it was a conscious power trip at the time…. she was playing a mother in a show that appealed to a lot of mentally ill needy teenage girls, she was apparently offering them advice on clothing and getting them winter coats and responding to them on Facebook and taking pictures with them backstage. None of that seems very power trippy? Just poor boundaries with crazy fans.

The recent Instagram caption was bitchy but she’s an emotional actress type and got pissed because some formwe fangirl likened her to a pedophile.

Also if you look at Brie Lynn and her tiktok - she IS somewhat similar to a discarded cigarette butt… nasty analogy but not that far off base…

Oh, it's not far off base. Quite the opposite: It's telling about how Ripley viewed her.

I’m Team Alice all the way.

Now that crazy frau Emily Skinner is another story…!

Emily Skinner only abuses Twinkies.

"I will never groom me. I will simply walk away."

Talk about next to Abby Normal!

[quote]r142 For a brief moment I thought this was about Alice Ghostley, which would have been ever so much more interesting.

At first i thought the complainant named Brie was actress Brie Larson, and thought, “Oh, maybe there is something here…” (because at least she doesn’t have a reputation for being crazy, that I know of.)

I guess she had to cancel her masterclass for young thespian as Stagedoor Manor this year.

Brie Lynn strikes me as pretty manipulative.

sorry - "Leo Brie"

When I was 18, I waited at the stage door to see Anne Miller after Sugar Babies (I'm a guy). She was sooo nice! She didn't want to chat on the sidewalk, so she invited me into the back of her waiting limo. We had a lovely conversation, she asked me about school and my friends ... she was genuinely interested in everything I had to say. She put her hand on my knee and said that I was "clearly an up and comer!"

This was in 1981. Thank God we didn't live in such a toxic world, where friendliness is mistaken for predatorial behavior!

R175 And the you turned into Michael Biehn in The Fan.

r175

Then she reached over and whispered into my ear, “Girlie! I want to munch your carpet!”

"It's like the James Franco accusations."

Only a sociopath would see James Franco as a victim

She slapped you and said: "It's AnN!"

[quote] For a brief moment I thought this was about Alice Ghostley, which would have been ever so much more interesting.

When she replaced Edie McClurg on my show, the old lady smell lingered throughout the studio even on weeks she wasn’t guest starring. I’ll never forget it as long as I live. How did the Designing Women deal with it?

R1978 He is innocent. And most people in Hollywood knows that.

Meant to quote r178

Opps...

[quote]He is innocent. And most people in Hollywood knows that.

Does they?

R178, James Franco didn’t victimize anyone.

R184 Are you saying having to watch his films and TV shows doesn’t count?

Here’s my favorite British Lesbian theater Youtuber’s take on the situation and she makes some good valid points.

Does she, r186? She praises the Daily Beast article which was one of the most libelous, unresearched, irresponsible hack jobs I've ever seen.

She was notorious for drawing in young teenage girls, mindfucking them, turning them against eachother and dropping them when she felt like it. She's insane and was very emotionally abusive to them, leaving many suicidal. She did this to so many teens. If you watch the video she sent to one of those girls where she pulls down her top you can just tell how unhinged she is

R158 Nah, she was distubed and got a lot of pleasure out of having adoring girls obsessed with her and enjoyed mindfucking them. She told one of the girls that the "world stopped" when she first looked into her eyes. A guy who was around that scene at the time has corroborated the accounts and said they acted like a couple and he thought the girl was 20, not 12

R189, has borderline personality disorder

Alice is fine...

R188 notorious to who? Who knew about this?

The fantasy people in R188's mind.

r188 is obviously a troll, r192.

R192 I've seen lots of comments from different people whose friends got into this same situation with Alice

Yeah, my brother's friend's manicurist's psychic knows someone on Twitter whose aunt saw a comment about a comment about Ripley grooming girls, so I know it's totally true.

All the Young Girls Love Alice.

Let’s not bury the lede: Alice’s voice is shot.

She never kept it calm and gentle. Even in Sunset Boulevard, she's belting and giving it all...for...what? Betty Shafer? What kind of a role is that to go all-in for? She should have learned to spare her voice a bit.

She does seem mentally off, like many actresses I suppose, but she never sexed them so...not much for these girls to do here except shame her for toying with and feeding off the vulnerable. Which, if she weren't famous, would land her no negative attention at all. It happens. Even on social media apps.

She wasn't a guidance counselor. Someone should have told these girls.

Also - how does one have $$$ for a ticket to a huge Broadway smash show....but not for a winter coat?

Isn't there an old lady who sees Broadway shows for free? She finagles her way into performances. There's a documentary on her. Her son is an actor.

That's Fran Weissler, dummy.

So did TikTok block Alice so she can’t go after anymore young fans or are the being complicit?

Alice has created a gofundme to sue those bitches for defaming her good name.

Is she being accused of being a lezza on the prowl and interfering with young girls?

$1470 raised toward a $150k goal…oh, Alice.

Oh my! Bold!!

What happened to her is horrible. I hope karma takes care of those little cunt accusers in a big way.

I’m 100% on her side. Let’s see what those girls say when they are being deposed under oath and find out gaslighting isn’t a crime.

R208, I think you mean ghosting, not "gaslighting." I'm not sure that "ghosting" is the right word, either, but it's a lot closer to what apparently happened than "gaslighting."

In many cirucmstances, gaslighting actually is a crime.

....but, based on what I've read, there are no charges of "gaslighting" here.

Ripley should just sell the rights to the story and cash in now!

R211, exactly. Which is why R208 is so weird.

It's a shame the theater community turned its back on her. They should recognize a bunch of stupid lying whores when they see them instead of casting her out into the cold.

The "allegations" were that she bought one of them a winter coat and sent them nice facebook messages until they got too mental to communicate with? Please.

I'm assuming they cancelled all her concerts - right? Wasn't she doing cabaret type performances and 54 below?

She was fucked the second those brats used the word "grooming."

Grooming isn’t the right word. Grooming for what?

Exactly.

Enjoy.

"Autistic lesbian."

SHUDDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is a lesson for actors to not get too involved with 'fans.' Pose for a pic, sign an autograph but don't get sucked into any kind of communication. There are just too many crazies out there.

here is the video in question that started it all...

R221 better to have a reputation as aloof and cold then blur the lines, especially with minors.

Is Alice Ripley really a lesbian? She's a hot milf

It just makes you think about how someone you've ghosted for one reason or another could come out and say something like this about you. Scary.

As far as I can recall, it's not a crime to step away from someone if they're making you uncomfortable or you're tired of their issues.

R225, very true, and VERY scary.

Never get close to mentally unstable teenage girls (or any teenage girls for that matter). Unless it's your daughter or your niece, stay the fuck away from them. That's my rule. As an adult, steer clear of all unrelated teenagers. PERIOD.

The judgment on her part was so horrible to get involved with any of these lunatics on any level.

If she actually goes through with the defamation lawsuit, won't she be Johnny Depp-ing herself?

Gompie - Alice

the musical

I was wondering how she was doing after all this shit.

Her career could recover from the scandal but it would take a good decade and honestly, her voice is too damaged for her to book a gig as a singer. Even if this hadn't happened, she would have struggled to work outside of maybe teaching or booking acting-only roles.

Its awful how vocalists give their all in a show and then win a Tony....but can end up broke and struggling a few short years later. The voice is so fragile. As you age and perform, it withers.

Not everyone can be Patti Lupone, belting into her 60s. Most lose what they have by their 40s or 50s. It's a shame.

Eden Espinosa had an incredible voice and now it's seemingly half what it was. She dodges high notes all the time. How can she build her career with a fading instrument?

Anyway, this GoFundMe thing is sad. Hope Alice makes some clever career moves because this isn't a good place to be in.

Well said R230.

Those Broadway singers seem to have the highest of highs when they are in a show succeeding and then the lowest of lows when they are done. Very rough career.

James Barbour bounced back from his scandalous interaction with a teen that was far more serious than this. He worked after the accusations were made and he worked after he served his sentence. He starred in Phantom on broadway for crissskes. But that was a different time wasn’t it? What a difference a few years and a lot of wokeness can make.

Broadway Actor Pleads Guilty to Backstage Sex Act With Girl, 15, in 2001

By Anemona Hartocollis Jan. 4, 2008 . NYTimes A Broadway actor admitted on Thursday that in 2001 he seduced a 15-year-old girl who visited him backstage, and agreed as part of a plea bargain to reveal that admission to anybody he works for in film, television or theater for up to the next three years.

The actor, James Barbour, was accused of having criminal sexual contact with a high school student who was an aspiring actress when she attended a performance of “Jane Eyre” in June 2001.

The student’s drama teacher arranged for her to visit the Brooks Atkinson Theater with her parents. Mr. Barbour told Justice Micki A. Scherer of State Supreme Court in Manhattan that the girl visited him in his dressing room before the final curtain call and that he fondled her, knowing that she was only 15 years old.

He also told the judge that he had oral sex with the girl in his apartment the next month. She did not come forward with her account for several years.

Under the negotiated deal, Mr. Barbour, 41, pleaded guilty to two counts of endangering the welfare of a child, both misdemeanors, in exchange for a promise that he would be sentenced to 60 days in jail and three years’ probation.

Mr. Barbour’s lawyer, Ronald Fischetti, said his client accepted the deal because if a jury had convicted him of the original felony sex charges against him he would have been forced to register as a sex offender, “which basically would have ended his career.”

His lawyer said that the prosecutor’s agreement to a misdemeanor plea showed the weaknesses of its case. But Mr. Barbour had to agree to a lengthy series of conditions of probation that are very similar to those that apply to convicted sex offenders.

While he is on probation, he must inform the manager, producer or assistant director of any theatrical, film or television project he works in that he has been convicted of endangering the welfare of a child, “having engaged in oral sexual conduct and sexual contact with a 15-year-old child.”

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Image James Barbour, who played the lead role in “Beauty and the Beast.” James Barbour, who played the lead role in “Beauty and the Beast.” Credit...Louis Lanzano/Associated Press He must also attend sex-offender treatment and cannot visit playgrounds, arcades, amusement parks, school grounds or Internet chat rooms frequented by children without permission from his probation officer.

In a signed statement to the police in April 2006, Mr. Barbour said that he was just acting as a mentor to the girl, that he had done no more than touch her knees and kiss her and that he thought that she was 16.

But in court on Thursday when asked by Justice Scherer, “Were you aware of her exact age?” Mr. Barbour replied, “Yes.”

“What was that age?” Justice Scherer pressed.

“Fifteen,” he replied.

At least one Broadway veteran said on Thursday that Mr. Barbour, who played the Beast in “Beauty and the Beast” for about one year, might find himself less marketable for family-friendly shows for awhile.

“I think if he did a show with adults, he might be entitled to a second chance,” said Emanuel Azenberg, a Broadway producer. “‘Sweeney Todd,’ O.K. But even then I certainly wouldn’t put it in the bio.”

Saying on Thursday that those conditions could turn out to be “a big price to pay,” Mr. Azenberg said producers might be concerned about the moral and legal liability involved in casting an actor convicted of endangering a child.

Producers could be wary of financial and artistic repercussions, he said, because casting directors would feel obliged to reveal Mr. Barbour’s conviction to the parents of any children who might audition for a show, “and then your casting choices would be compromised.”

But Jay Binder, a casting director who said he had begun Mr. Barbour’s career by casting him in “Beauty and the Beast,” said he would make decisions based on talent.

“James Barbour is a first-rate Broadway leading man,” Mr. Binder said. “If he were the actor that the entire creative staff agreed upon, there would be no professional reason not to hire James Barbour.”

Mr. Fischetti said he expected his client, who will be sentenced next month, to be out of jail in time to perform in “A Tale of Two Cities” if it comes to New York. Mr. Barbour played Sidney Carton during a pre-Broadway tryout in Florida last year. The producers of the show declined to comment on Thursday.

He said Mr. Barbour was recently married in a civil ceremony — his wife accompanied him to court on Thursday — and was planning a formal wedding in Hawaii. Mr. Fischetti said the woman Mr. Barbour was convicted of endangering is now an actress

Barbour's casting was indeed a scandal, with fans protesting outside Phantom with signs. It wasn't that long ago and it was viewed as inappropriate, especially given the predatory character he was playing. I doubt he'll have a free pass from here on out.

The only things that *kinda* saved him were A) he was honest and did his time, B) he's a white straight male so the Old Boys Club could understand his error in judgment (and mentally high five him for getting some?) and C) he csn really sing the part.

I think C was the big factor. No one can say he sang a bad Phantom.

...Ripley doesn't have the voice for much anymore. I was excited to hear she'd finally play Norma D a few years ago, since she played Betty in the OG production of Sunset. Then I heard a bootleg. She sounded warbling and hoarse. It was sad.

With no amazing voice anymore to overshadow her "transgressions" and a lesbian theme to them and much speculation about her involvement with young fans...she won't bounce back easily.

Plus, she's always seemed off in how she speaks and acts. And she famously played a crazy lady, who people identify her as....

Playing crazy/temperamental characters on Broadway seems not to work out too well for the Divas (Patti, Betty, Jennifer H, Alice R). People think that's their real personality.

Hope she has real estate or something.

I'm all for wearing masks but why is she wearing one in her Go Fund Me photo ?

[quote]It's awful how vocalists give their all in a show and then win a Tony....but can end up broke and struggling a few short years later. The voice is so fragile. As you age and perform, it withers.

I don't know what you're talking about.