WHORES MOURN: OnlyFans Is Getting Out Of The Porn Business

WHAT?! LOL

What will I do?

So they're taking the Tumblr business path to self-immolation? Cool.

Do they think people are gonna pay $25 per month for kitten videos?

Well, it's back to the perfume counter for me, then!

But that is their only business ? Do they want to commit suicide a la Tumblr?

What a stupid business decision on their part, but I understand that the owners are religious and or conservative. Something else will quickly take its place.

They do realize they'll be exterminating themselves, right?

What on earth will all the D List Bravo and TLC celebrities do for extra spending money?

Thank fucking CHRIST!

I'm sick of every faggot from here to Grindr linking to their OF, and telling guys they should subscribe if they want to see a dick pic or munch on that hole. Too many of these pricks think they're porn stars, when really, they're just coin-grubbing trash.

Three bucks a month to see your dick doesn't make you a "content creator" or a sex worker. It just makes you a cheap bitch.

Who will have “an” Onlyfans then?

WTF?😒

That's like Chinese restaurants saying they're going to stop serving fried rice.

r6 I read an interview with the owner about six months ago and I did not get the impression he was religious?

The article says they are getting out of the porn business but still allowed to post nude photos and videos within guidelines?

Too light on details to make sense.

There's already one alternative out there called justforfans. I'm sure more will be popping up soon.

But I don't feel sorry for the most of the people who have accounts there. Many are scammers, who put only junk up for the people who pay the monthly subscription fee and everything else under often way overpriced PPV postings.

R2 Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn

First Aaron Carter gets fired from Naked Boys Singing and now THIS?!?

R13 The fuck does that statement mean? Minus porns and people will shortly be migrating off their site.

If more of you old queens had husbands to torture, you wouldn't be so goddamned thirsty over straight celebrities and trade on OF who show their balls for five dollars.

Good GOD, you people are hard-up. I've known prisoners who whack it to the women of QVC, but this is somehow worse.

Not to be confused with the "Dark Web", but Onlyfans has used many "dark patterns design principles" over the past several years. It's the modern day equivalent of fine print and it's unethical.

Are you fucking kidding me? Did that prick Nicholas Kristoff write another anti-porn article?

r17 It's an oxymoron. Makes no sense. I wonder what the alternatives now are for sex workers or if they will go back to revitalised porn studios?

[quote] That's like Chinese restaurants saying they're going to stop serving fried rice.

More like saying they're going to stop serving ALL food, period. This makes zero sense.

On a lighter note, car dealers will start selling cars without engines

You think these gurls will go to the streets and see what actual sex work is like?

This is fucking bullshit.

What kind of religious fundie ASSHOLES are in control of the internet????

Craigslist, Xtube, now OnlyFans.

It's fucking sickening how this country is returning to Puritanism.

The internet is better off, abiding by rules from the 1600's.

Fucking Woke/SJW's strike again!

We would not EVER want to offend their delicate sensibilities, with something like naked men having sex!

To be fair, I only know of OnlyFans from Datalounge and Instagram ho's promoting it. Is it possible there's a whole other side to OnlyFans we're unaware of? Like maybe they have a bunch of frau chefs on it or stuff like that?

Fucking Republican conservatives strike again!

We would not EVER want to trigger their delicate sensibilities with something like naked men having sex! Soon we'll have to undergo gay "conversion" brainwashing.

Republicans passed the law banning craigslist ads and allowing any Christian busybody to sue the platform. What a menace to the world the GOP is!!!

It's basically our DL site without those loving little homophobes, transphobes, xenophobes, misogynists, trumpists, oh CHRIST, you name it.

Am I right, people?

OnlyFans plans to block its users from posting pornographic content on its site.

The company said on Thursday that it will implement the new policy in October, Bloomberg first reported.

"In order to ensure the long-term sustainability of our platform, and the continue to host an inclusive community of creators and fans, we must evolve our content guidelines," the company said, per Bloomberg.

The company will still allow users to post nude photos and videos, so long as they do not violate OnlyFans' policies, Bloomberg reported. Insider reached out for clarification regarding the company's new policy for nude photos and videos, but did not receive a response in time for publication.

The decision to ban sexually explicit content reflects a major branding change for the site that has gained much of its success from pornographic content. To date, the site hosts over 130 million users and has paid creators over $3 billion since it was created in 2016.

The decision could impact over 1 million creators, according to the company's website. It's unknown how many creators make money solely on explicit content. The site has long been known as a source of income for sex workers, especially during the pandemic when many had to pivot from in-person roles.

OnlyFans has faced difficulty in recent months drumming up investor interest, according to a recent report from Axios. The decision to eliminate sexually explicit content could help the platform lure in investors that may be wary of the site's NSFW brand.

People don’t realize OnlyFans was never built for porn. Porn stars turned it into that and then everyday folk followed when they saw if they build a following they can start making money off it.

It was a site created for celebs, athletes etc. to post more personal content for their fans for a subscription price as well as corporations to push shit etc.

How will the coomers coom now?

[quote] In order to ensure the long-term sustainability of our platform

Good luck with that.

Nobody is going to visit their stupid site just to look at nude photos.

People want what people want.

The whole reason for their popularity WAS the "explicit" content.

These companies are so fucking stupid.

R30 is positing from the 1950's if he thinks this is coming from the right.

R29 no. There are like one or two minor celebrities who post non-sexual and nudity free videos. That's it.

Lmfao

Onlyfans will now be Family Friendly

They will still allow nudity, just no more hardcore porn aka penetration

So many gay men are porn addicts.

Blocking porn killed Tumblr. This is so dumb, going to kill off their business.

Wow. OnlyFans is going to crash and burn. The site's image branding is hosting hardcore content created by account holders. To go away from that now is not going to draw more respectable content creators or investors to the platform, because it has a very distinct porn image branding that doesn't go away the moment they prohibit porn. And it looks like it's already struggling financially if they are so eager to attract new investors.

This didn't work out well for Tumblr and it won't work out well for OnlyFans.

[quote] They will still allow nudity, just no more hardcore porn aka penetration

The only reason people went to that stupid site was for the "hardcore porn aka penetration."

Dumb. Dumber. Dumbest.

Porn is no longer profitable, everyone is getting out of the business.

I'm sure the poorly done record keeping by some of the content providers probably isn't helping this. You know some of those random hook-up vids and orgies posted don't have all of the model releases and valid IDs requiered for porn.

And some of these people are mentally ill. There was the one female porn star that posted a video of her getting a fucked by a guy and her young child walked into the room and they just continued fucking and posted the video anyway. She took a long of blowback (rightfully) on twitter when she posted a preview clip.

R44 no. Many of these guys aren’t fucking on their onlyfans

Onlyfans is very, very profitable r45.

OnlyFans should rebrand as "OnlyFun", where people can go to pay money to see photos and videos of good, wholesome fun.

Good all the posers and scammers can clear out. All the real porn whores have had JustForFans and other fan sites since before this OnlyFans explosion

R50 it’s obviously not, if they’re getting out of the porn business.

r33 So (non-porn) celebrities now have a choice between appearing on Cameo an existing model they already use not associated with porn... Or OnlyFans? Gee I wonder which one they'll use.

They can all migrate over to Trump's site GETTR. Standards are nonexistent there.

All sex work is exploitation.

R57 Is perfectly okay with the exploitation of women and girls, typical liberal.

I guess Justforfans and 4myfans are about to blow up. Austin Wolf is going to be a(n even) rich(er) man.

Can’t stand Austin Wolf. He’s so boring. I don’t get it.

Yes. OnlyFans had a monopoly over this industry and now 4myfans and just for fans will probably be able to gain steam.

Good news, Onlyfans has given whores overinflated egos.

Imagine Austin Wolf and that guy that used to snake 3D porn at Dominic Ford are going to be multi millionaires maybe billionaires from this

Y'all realize that it's just a matter of time before JustForFans and all other competitors do the same thing due to credit card pressure.

Lmaooo

It's like Datalounge saying they will ban trolls.

There is theories and speculation floating about online that because in some major Western economies like the UK and USA there are huge labour shortages, lots of job vacancies but few taking them that has created concerns for the long term. The theory is that a deluge of people bragging about how they make much more on Onlyfans rather than in regular work is a small part of the issue but is having a corrosive effect on getting back to business as usual. It potentially could affect economic growth and is concerning government's and banks .Not as a sole cause but a significant factor. I am not sure how much stock to put in it but given the number of people who have joined Onlyfans there could be some element or modicum of truth in it.

r36 is posting from the Fake News, Trump-style gaslighting chamber up his own ass where dozens of right wings grow.

Almost all banks have always forbidden processing porn or sexual transactions. That is a result of social conservatism and Republican Party political pressure since BEFORE the 1950s. Banks continue the policy so they don't upset Christians, Muslims, churches, Republican politicians and they have a legitimate interest in not wanting to facilitate sex slaves and child sexual transactions that Republican outliers like Milo Yiannopolous support.

Republicans passed the law banning craigslist ads and allowing any Christian busybody to sue the platform. So the GOP is still a socially conservative tyrant full of evangelical and Mormon busybodies trying to ban abortions, gays and porn.

Don't let r36 gaslight you. Republicans are a party to this and mostly opposed to gays, culture and sexual freedom.

Here's the Republican SJW who led her Republican Congress to kill craigslist:

r59 Surely porn star Austin Wolf will be negatively affected by this?

[quote]All work is exploitation.

There. Fixed that for ya, r56.

R28 trying to blame "Woke" people when conservatives like him are the biggest prudes around

It is neither conservatives nor so-called "Woke/SJW". Shit like this is purely Capitalism talking.

R64 it was fun seeing all these whores travel during a pandemic for a year straight having foursomes and orgies with each other and bragging about it through paid videos. But now the time has come for them to go back their service and retail jobs. And just be average eye candy

r71 r72 So you think there might be some truth in the theory I tried to explain in my r66 post ?

This is just OF trying to be legit. JFF and 4MF were created expressly for adult content, so they are theoretically less likely to bow to pressure to remove adult content from their platforms.

R68 Austin owns 4myfans.

Thanks r74

Us eldergays know that process all too well. Turning some rundown block into a flourishing gayborhood and then getting priced out by rich straight people moving on to the next run down neighborhood that needs the gay (or queer) touch.

Just like in real life, things come and go. There will be a new site, a new platform for porn. You will never make free porn go away for good in this internet age. It just shifts IP addresses.

I accidentally skipped that post of yours, dear SurvivingAngel. Anyway I went back to read and totally second that.

Won't somebody please think of all the starving hos, Instahos and hustlers!!

[quote]I've known prisoners who whack it to the women of QVC

See, I'm thinkin' that if you have friends or relatives in prison who tell you that they jerk it every time they're in the community TV room and the Lisa Rinna Collection comes on, you're not really in any position to judge others.

It's funny that this is the most popular thread I've ever started

And R33 is right about the site's origins.

That's not uncommon on the internet-- YouTube was originally created as a way to share videos of your kids with grandparents who did not have high bandwidth connections and Twitter was an alternative to group texting.

R66 If da Vinci could have made money fingering his hole we wouldn't have the Mona Lisa.

The biggest tragedy to hit Datalounge since Craigslist Personals shut down.

Here's the Fucking Woke SJW who was Speaker of the House when he passed the "Fight Online Sex Trafficking Act," which killed craigslist and Backpage.com.

Ladies and gentlemen, Republican Paul Ryan!

It's getting harder and harder out there to sell your ass.

Here's the Fucking Woke SJW who was Senate Majority Leader when he passed the "Fight Online Sex Trafficking Act," which killed craigslist and Backpage.com. It also snuck in anti-abortion measures.

Ladies and gentlemen, Republican Mitch McConnell!

r77 Thanks .It seems to be a back to work tool because of fears stuff like this becoming too mainstream and widespread will distort incentives and motives in the economy.

r81 LOL Such a succinct way of putting it!!

Here's the Fucking Woke SJW who was President when he passed the "Fight Online Sex Trafficking Act," which killed craigslist and Backpage.com. It also snuck in anti-abortion measures.

Even though the Dumpsterfuhrer's family fortune was started by pimping whores in brothels, who trafficked women through Trump Model Management, fucked and raped underage girls with Epstein, sexually assaulted over 35 women and whose wife would be on OnlyFans if she hadn't married Creep Throat.

Ladies and Gentlemen, "Diaper" Donald Trump, the Woke SJW and Christ-annointed candidate!

just when I was thinking of caving and subscribing to one or two. nevermind lol

R76 Yeah. Customers will find something to replace it even if it's not as good but it really hurts the content creators because they have to start completely new in building up their fan base every time they switch platforms.

What will happen to the international whores on OnlyFans?

As always, people into vanilla porn will have lots of options online. But people with more specific kinks will have a much harder time finding porn and/or community

[quote] If da Vinci could have made money fingering his hole we wouldn't have the Mona Lisa.

At least then we would know what Mona Lisa was smiling about.

r66 = Fake News from try-hard, right-wing fantasists and Christian conservative Fucking Woke SJWs.

There is no "labor shortage" and rampant Republican Party bribes from Russia and Trump tolerance are the most corrosive corruption that completely killed "business as usual" in Republicans' mad dash for a fascist, authoritarian state.

The Republican half of America's voters no longer support democracy or the American rule of law, which is the corroded destruction of 240 years of U.S. tradition.

SurvivingAngel = DeFacto

R46 - exactly. A lot of unethical sluts are posting their hookups by clandestine recording...posting unconsenting, unverified people on a porn website seems like a huge, huge lawsuit waiting to happen.

Now all you naked losers are going to have to get jobs.

And no, suckjobs behind Dairy Queen don't count.

Maybe this will help the labor shortage, all the Only Fans performers will have to take minimum wage jobs.

R97 Are they skilled enough for that?

I thought they became camwhores because they had no other talent besides stuffing things up the backdoor?

The type of D List celebs I follow wouldn't post hardcore stuff anyway. I wonder if masturbation will still be allowed though.

The reason they are going is because payment processors will not allow it.

And who the fuck do you think "capitalism" is being held hostage by when banks have always blocked porn for all their histories, r71?

CHRISTIAN WHINERS, MUSLIM FANATICS, REPUBLICANS, ORTHODOX JEWS, SEX-NEGATIVE FRAUS and so on.

Dumbfuck. Why should everyone who uses a bank have to stop what they like because of triggered social conservatives and churches?

There's never been any true "capitalism" here. It's always been held hostage by pearl-clutchers and the Taliban. There's no freedom of choice, merit is outlawed, there's no supply for the demand; there's no competition.

IT'S CONSERVATIVE SOCIAL ENGINEERING, COLLUSION AND MONOPOLY and it always has been.

r77 = SurvivingAngel/DeFacto.

[quote] Customers will find something to replace it even if it's not as good but it really hurts the content creators because they have to start completely new in building up their fan base every time they switch platforms.

Not if they maintain a social media presence on Twitter and Instagram. That's not going away overnight. From there they can link to their softcore and hardcore content's new home.

So I'm confused. Are they just blocking extreme shit, or all nekkid content?

I think the reporting is WRONG

TERMS say:

Do not upload, post, display, or publish Content on OnlyFans that:

shows, includes or refers to:

any individual under 18 years old (or which refers to individuals under 18 years old generally); or any other individual unless you have written documentation which confirms that all individuals shown or included or referred to in your Content are at least 18 years old, and you have a written consent from each individual to use their name or images (or both) in the Content;

shows, promotes, advertises or refers to:

firearms, weapons, or any goods whose sale, possession or use is subject to prohibitions or restrictions;

drugs or drug paraphernalia;

self-harm or suicide;

incest;

bestiality;

violence, rape, lack of consent, hypnosis, intoxication, sexual assault, torture, sadomasochistic abuse or hardcore bondage, extreme fisting, or genital mutilation;

necrophilia;

urine, scatological, or excrement-related material;

"revenge porn" (being any sexually explicit material featuring any individual who has not given prior, express and fully informed consent to that material (a) being taken, captured, or otherwise memorialized, or (b) being posted and shared on OnlyFans);

escort services, sex trafficking, or prostitution;

How do you know what DaVinci's abs and cock looked like, r81?

r81 thinks he looks like Austin Wolf and passes for 22 years old, I'm sure.

Good old-fashioned sex is not banned; just certain kink.

R105 That would be perfectly fine with 99% of the population.

This is fucking ridiculous. Might as well just ban all porn at this point. Every popular porn site is getting hit. I’m getting tired of the shifting around. It’s incredibly frustrating.

r86 can't allow you peasants to jerk off until you build another yacht for Donald Trump and develop another 7,000 emojis.

Because everyone's job is just SO CRUCIAL!!!

No time for porn!

Airborne and hydroxychloroquine have to develop more magic remedies and Angry Birds are an endangered species!!!!

r93 There is definitely a labour shortage in the UK and British news and podcasts is reporting the same about the USA especially in relation to the fast food and hospitality sector.

So r95 wants to punish THE MAJORITY for the TINY MINORITY who abuse the platform.

Why doesn't r95 ban cars and driving because of the few who cause accidents?

Why doesn't r95 ban doctors and the practice of medicine because of the few who malpractice?

Why doesn't r95 ban alcohol for the few who abuse it?

OH, THAT'S RIGHT. BECAUSE IT DOESN'T FUCKING WORK AND IT'S NOT FAIR.

Don't try to ban my harmless behavior and that of millions of others because of the small fraction of abusers. The abusers can be prosecuted.

This is the night the lights went out in Georgia!

There is more porn that people could possibly watch in a lifetime already in existence, why do people need some idiot 19 year old from Florida record his mediocre hookups. So many gay men are obsessed with porn to the detriment of their own sex lives.

I love how worked up some of you homosexuals get about this.

R105 That is the current "terms of service". OnlyFans has confirmed that they will be banning ALL sexually explicit material and will have an updated terms of service shortly.

There is definitely a right-wing agenda of Fake News that r111 embraces unconditionally in the vain and deranged belief that he, too, will someday get to enjoy the kind of slave and peasant labor that Donald Trump, Rupert Murdoch, Mitch McConnell, George Bush, Mitt Romney and Lord Anthony Bamford enjoy.

LABOR SHORTAGES ARE A HOAX MANUFACTURED BY GREEDY CONSERVATIVE POLITICIANS AND NOTHING MORE.

It's high-time that capital management offered better wages and benefits if they want employees instead of FLEECING THEM DRY like they've done for the last 50 years.

r111 just doesn't want to pay for stimulus or unemployment. r111 thinks he's immune to the equilibrium that capitalism and free markets require.

r116 Hard to know what to think.

According to this photographed text message Onlyfans is only banning explict material from unverified accounts??

But that’s posted today on the first page as “updated terms.”

Large tragedies in the history of DL:

Craigslist personals - dead Tumblr porn - dead Pornhub - mostly dead OnlyFans - on life support, dead soon

There's still xhamster. It's better than Pornhub anyway.

Why are these people referring to themselves as sex workers. Sex workers generally by and large don't have any say over who they fuck, these people do not have to worry about some creep murdering them at an hourly rate hotel.

The Twitter gays are not happy!

Large tragedies in the history of DL:

Craigslist personals - dead

Tumblr porn - dead

Pornhub - mostly dead

OnlyFans - on life support, dead soon

There's still xhamster. It's better than Pornhub anyway.

r117 You are being dumb because I am not American and won't be paying for your stimulus regardless.

It has been reported by centrist news outlets too like the financial Times that there are plenty of job vacancies, plenty of available workers but a great reluctance by many to become economically active and join the Labour Market. Hence the term Labour shortage. Why people are not rejoining the Labour Market in expected numbers is an interesting question.

R119 If you scroll down you see that was posted back in March and they haven't updated since. They literally released a statement to the press that said they are banning sexually explicit materials.

We still have Chaturbate.

Where are the current day porn mavericks like Larrry Flynt? He would be taking SOSTA and all this to court so fast.

R126 for now

SO PAY WORKERS MORE, r124, YOU DUMB, TORY FUCK!

And the U.K. absolutely DID pay out COVID stimulus and unemployment, just as every civilized country did, and plenty of Tories didn't want to pay for it, you IGNORANT, GASLIGHTING FUCK.

Quick! Someone tell Telly Leung! He needs to present his hole on OF and make some quick bucks before Broadway has to shut down again.

Boris DeFuckedo always thinks he can get away with straight-up LIES and mental fabrications on DL.

Well that sure was bad timing.

r129 I am not a tory and you are the dumbf*** if you think I as a British taxpayer are paying for the US stimulus? Seriously learn to comprehend what you are reading. I of course will likely pay tax increases to pay off the UK covid debt but thats got nothing to do with what I said or what I replied too. I was accused of not wanting to pay for the US stimulus bill.. which is a bit of a silly accusation to make at a non American.

I have said NOWHERE that I agree or feel comfortable with Onlyfans rationale or the alleged concerns of businesses about Onlyfans contributing towards a labour shortage. I have DESCRIBED the state of play and the motives involved. I haven't given my opinion on what is the best way forward. I am merely analysing the phenomenon playing even less than a devils advocate role. But you are too busy making aggressive assumptions to stop to consider that you know little of what I actually believe and support. Never voted for a Conservative government in my life.

R63, as far as I know, you can pay for JustforFans with cryptocurrency, so they're probably not as dependent on credit card companies as Onlyfans.

Say goodbye to “anon” content of guys taking loads, gloryhole, guys from Grindr and such. That is against the rules.

Most of the gay OnlyFans has starting to post the same content anyways. You can’t go bigger than a 10-20 man orgy and as such now all they are left with are posting foursomes and orgies but those are always boring videos because there is too much going on to experience it on the screen.

r131 Point to where I denied there was a UK furlough and economic support scheme. I didn't so you are showing you are not very bright. I was replying to an accusation that I didn't want to pay for the AMERICAN stimulus bill.

[R123] They are coming for xhamster too

Honestly, I can't wait for that fucking shithole of a website to go down. So fucking user-friendly. Only ONE payment option. NO browse function. A pretty much unusable search function that you have to PAY for. And I heard both customers and performers are being ripped off by OF.

I hope the hot whores all move to more user-friendly sites like JustforFans ... although my favorite whore is probably dead, so I won't see him there. Anyway, OF stinks and deserves to die a painful, not so slow death.

Yep all those scammers and those hiding shit behind paywalls will be exposed by this move. But they shouldn’t have been making money in the first place

I meant user-UNfriendly, obviously

I'm not bothered. I'll still be able to show my bloomers online.

Lots of straight men whoring themselves out for gay viewers will be out of work.

Think of the cis gender straight men!

still wish tumblr didn't opt for a ban. I miss a good porn gif blog.

I spent my life exploring, the subtle whoring, that cost me too much to be free!

I hate how on JFF, if you’re watching a video in fullscreen that required scrolling down the page, exiting full screen takes you back to the top of page, necessitating you to scroll down all over again. They need to fix that.

Yeah, JFF does have some annoying technical issues. Now would be the perfect time for them to invest heavily into the site's infrastructure.

This whore claims he’s college educated and has a job but didn’t drop down what profession he is or what he majored in. So I’m suppose to believe him rant?

Gawd, most of those whores are insufferable. If you want to keep jerking off to them, do NOT follow them on twitter.

R147 yes. There are a lot of college graduates who work these kinds of jobs because they make more than a “real job” at them.

We aren’t in 1970 anymore. Minimum wage used to afford you to live fine. Now you can’t live off of something that was created to make sure everyone could survive. And many jobs, even ones demanding a Bachelors degree, are starting these people off with just $15 an hour.

God dammit good! I fucking hate that cesspool of disgusting depraved overentitled human swine, go into actual xxx hardcore porn and pay actual dues.

Agreed r150 these guys are filming their hook ups and overcharging to have others see it. They would have fucked these guys even if filming didn’t exist. These guys don’t work hard at all despite what they tell you.

[...]

I wonder just how well tumblr is doing now? I keep getting e-mails from them saying, "We've noticed you haven't visited in a while".

R153 they’re doing fine. Not as much traffic but it’s still used by minors mostly

^^Bryan Singer

Re: the guy at r147, he’s a college graduate but doesn’t know not to end a sentence in a preposition?

Well, I never in all my life!

Good! Nothing annoys me more than this “check out my Onlyfans” bullshit that’s metastasised across the digital world the past couple of years. Just as everyone thinks they’re a photographer and artist now (or, sorry, “content creator”) everyone thinks they are a fucking porn star. Just, no. No.

Maybe gay guys will see the sunlight again?

Chris Damned, Rhyheim Shabazz, Cole Connor, Josh Moore, Christian Styles, and Pablo Hernandez should be put on suicide watch...

I look forward to the pending meltdown. Although there's always Just For Fans, I guess.

What’s this sunlight you speak of?

Why are there so many anti-gay posts on this thread? Fuck y’all conservatives

Another DL tradition will bite the dust.

I speak of the "an" before Onlyfans.

This is the real tragedy here girls.

I can understand people not wanting porn available to minors, so why not keep the porn and just make it available to accounts with verified legal age status?

This makes me so happy. Every time I try someone’s Only Fans, I feel ripped off. Meanwhile, the quality of normal studio porn has dropped drastically while all the hot guys do OF instead. Hopefully, many of the hottest guys will go back to making real porn instead.

Would someone please reach out to Creamygorilla to see if he is OK?

I'm almost gleeful OnlyFans is on its way out, and the scammers along with it. I've subscribed to a few hotties for $10 or $15, only to find the good stuff will cost me even more money. Digital cockteasing. $79.99 to watch you jack off in the shower? Greedy much? 'Bye whores.

So this is all Jeffrey Toobin's fault.

He posted his jack-off video on Only Fans, and after seeing it, they decided to shut it all down.

At least my favorite instahos will still be able to link to BLM petitions right next to their new JustForFans links.

Yeah, the level of greed is insane. There's one straight model, Wolverpeen, who gay baits for days. His account is expensive and most of his followers are men, but in 3 years he keeps promising hotter content that never materializes. One time he claimed he was getting fucked by a friend and was talking about having a dick in him....but it was 100% obvious he was getting fucked by a woman wearing a strap-on. It was not hot.

r168 But could similar pressures lead yo Justforfans going the same way?

There are plenty of people on OF who don’t “need” to be. Off the top of my head I can think of a lawyer, engineer, med student, those hot Jewish daddies who do something lucrative. A lot of the OFers just like showing off. They might move over to JFF or just count the time as an interesting experiment.

This woman I know quit her good job once she gained an audience on OF and was making 6 figures a month.

FUCK!!! I'll miss Teninchtopx. I hope there will be a rise of new alternative soon. Hang in there, whores. My prayer is up.

There is an Instahoe who quit his engineering job in Seattle to be an OF whore and moved to WeHo.

I guess my ex-bf will have to get a real job now.

If porn were a person I’d physically assault it the way Bjork did to that annoying reporter lady. It’s truly a nuisance and it’s normalization needs to be ended.

R176 Shut the fuck up, you lunatic.

R176

If YOU don’t like it, don’t watch. Don’t punish those of us who enjoy it.

You probably masturbate in your room all day and forget to bathe. Pathetic.

[quote]it’s normalization needs to be ended.

The normalization of your apostrophe abuse is what needs to be ended, dear.

I hope you go blind.

Thank goodness Rachel Dolezal will be providing good, clean content.

Foot pics, anyone?

I thought Dolezal changed her name to "Nkechi Skammin-Wytebisch."

Michael Cimino is worried sick this is going to affect sex workers!

Isn't it against federal law with the payment processors somehow?

Like how legal weed is an issue to open bank accounts under federal banking regulations?

They sold up to a Saudi billionaire whose mission is to shut the site down.

Another site will open up and take its place asap.

R185 Yes, that's the main reason for this change. MasterCard, Visa, etc. not wanting to affiliate with porn. Its the same thing that happened with the porn purge in Tumblr, Pornhub and Xtube. There's a major prick (I'll have to google him) that'd been driving this campaign.

Soon Twitter will be the only place hoes can tout their wares, and that's always going to be free.

[quote] Another site will open up and take its place asap.

But it will suck.

R189 over the last few months Twitter has been hinting at a subscription scheme

R191, if that happens then all the OF fans will sign up. But Twitter also needs to find its own payment processing method .

You already have Patreon for artists and "Content Creators". Without allowing adult content, OnlyFans has no reason to exist.

R192 If twitter starts a subscription service then they will almost certainly ban porn on it

A lot of porn studios allow you to pay with gift cards now

If Twitter charges it will end my Twitter addiction, which is a good thing.

A subscription service would kill Twitter and people will be on to the next platform. Especially if they ban porn, we’d refuge to a different site. Rinse and repeat.

The people who want to ban porn really are crazy. Stay out of my bedroom. Stop trying to strip away my freedom and sexuality.

Porn stars are going to go back to tricking.

Onlyfans is user created content, unless they find a way to verify age and consent like commercial porn does, it’s going to fail. Most of the content from pornhub and tumblr was pirated and in the case of pornhub they put up competitors content and wouldn’t take it down because they knew it would hurt/cheapen their business.

Tumblr’s main reason for taking porn off was that minors were uploading videos.

This is just how its going to be now in the digital age. Once the people who own these sites earn more money than God, they become politically correct all of a sudden. Then everyone has to migrate to the next platform. Twitter is hanging in there but will only last so long...

Onlyfans was a pain in the ass to view anyway, endless scrolling and the site didn't work well half the time. Good riddance.

[quote] So many gay men are obsessed with porn to the detriment of their own sex lives.

For some of us, it IS our sex life.

[quote]And no, suckjobs behind Dairy Queen don't count.

Even if I throw in a free Dilly Bar with each hummer?

[quote]The biggest tragedy to hit Datalounge since Craigslist Personals shut down.

Ahem.

JustForFans is better than OF in one key way--it lets you see some of the content before you subscribe. You can't see ANYTHING on OF until you subscribe. However, OF probably has 100X as much content as JFF.

So how do Chaturbate, Twitter, etc. continue to exist?

This was my birthday wish 🥳🎉

If there's one positive to come out of this move, it's possible there will be a resurgence in studio porn, which is almost always superior to the garbage on OF.

If Chaturbate ever goes under, the GDP of Colombia will drop by 50% overnight.

Studio porn is BORING. OF is better because we are seeing REAL sex with normal people.

[quote]OF is better because we are seeing REAL sex with normal people.

"Normal people"? Seriously?

OF content is almost always poorly shot, poorly lit, poorly directed, and 90% of it seems to be clips of under one minute or still photos.

You need to find better content creators.

What else is it good for.

It gives you access to see the naked bodies of guys you otherwise would never see. It’s hot.

Example:

I bet this was a covert Republican operation to avoid ever paying service workers decent wages and forcing people back into the service industry. And just in time for the holiday season too. Corporate greed!

R188 anto-porn crusaders have rebranded as anti child trafficking/metoo I support women consent movement to bring down porn. Lots of people are falling for it easily. So the most popular porn sites are getting shut down over “concern” of underage people and revenge porn.

If I recall Tinder has finally set up its ID verification for everyone to curb “catfishing”. If Grindr doesn’t fix it shit, it will definitely be next. Surprised they didn’t target it first since it has many easy target but remember we have powerful lobbyists in our community now.

R215 I have subscribed to him on and off again for about two years. He gets boring after a while but I always regain interest in that ass

r206, I perform on Chaturbate. They do require age verification for performers. You have to submit valid ID with your IRL face. Their rules are very similar to the original ones posted on here for Only Fans. No illegal age play, not even as a fantasy or play, no incest play, no urine, shit, or blood, no one can appear or even be audible in your room unless they have been age verified through their system, among a few other rules.

I'm completely fine with all of those rules. I don't need to do any of that to do what I do.

I am however, following the new rules to be coming from Only Fans closely.

Chaturbate is strict about age verification because 10+ years ago those types of sites didn’t require it and young teens were going on and jerking off on camera.

Are you doing it for money, R219, or just for fun? If you're getting paid, how much do you make, if you don't mind me asking?

Also, most people on OnlyFans didn't make much money, the median was $180/month. If anything, it was like an MLM scheme where people saw some raking in the money and thought they could do the same.

Chaturbate used to let people be "exhibitionists" and just perform but not accept tips. But that seems to have disappeared in the past year for some reason.

r217 Puritianicals whether from the political left or right are always dangerous and imposing and frustratingly we are in an era of both.

R218 Yeah, his stuff can be quite boring but his hole presentation is unlike anything though. There is one with a buddy of his, both wearing socks and legs behind ears. Hot as shit.

R224 yes I have that photo lol.

He is a personal trainer.

r224 Is that blonde hunk british?

Have many of the male sex workers on twitter or instagram passed much comment on this new development with Onlyfans?

R226 yes he is British

To R221, it's both. fun and money. As odd as it sounds, it is by and large one of the least negative sites on the internet. You do have to know how to manage your room, but by in large there is way less negativity on there. The vast majority of people who visit my room just want to relax, and enjoy themselves.

I'm not going to say how much I make on there, but it's quite a bit more than $180 a month.

Ooh lovely Cheers r227 !

“Chat” is such a stupid fucking word so I can’t take chaturbate seriously ever sorry not sorry.

R225 I found it. This is the pic I was talking about. Meaty as fuck.

r231 Does he claim to be gay?

He’s straight. He has videos fucking women. Never does anything with men besides pose next to them and wank in the same room

Lots of Harry Styles stans were hoeing on Only Fans to pay for his exorbitant concert tickets.

SurvivingAngel = Klan Grannies' CEO

r233 Thanks .Theres a guy who used to go by the name of Veggie Vince who has an onlyfans account and I believe some of his material was very intimate man on man but no penetration .Bisexual apparently but very masculine with some onlyfans hints on his instagram.Kind of kicking myself I never followed him on Onlyfans now!

Robert Repulveda Jnr has an Only Fans. $500 to watch him strip naked and eat a banana.

You people concerning yourself with these wannabe pornstars mulcting the OF platform and making a shit ton more $$$ than you and actual performers who have actually stuck things in their orifices is a trip, like they would so much as even consider giving you losers the time of day….Unless it was to poke you hard in the face with a stick nonstop until you presented a wallet because it’s all “fuck you, pay me” mentality with them. It’s sad how easily controlled people are by their basest instincts. Have fun being a paypig for a superficially fulfilling fap sesh.

[QUOTE] like they would so much as even consider giving you losers the time of day….

Most of them will let you fuck them for real if the price is right.

r239 What proportion do we reckon escort?

Will nude pictures still be allowed? It seems really strange

I hope with porn being banned people get back out into the streets doing deprived kinky shit there. I miss that.

1) This isn't going to make a bunch of sex workers suddenly homeless; there are other alternatives as already stated in this thread such as justfor.fans, fancentro, and others with those two being the biggest alternatives. Pornhub also has its own version, but much like Pornhub's website, they have invested practically nothing in its development and I think they pay MAYBE once a month, with up to a month delay.

2) The anti-porn crusaders have been, for a decade now, using the guise of eliminating "sex trafficking" to get politicians on both sides of the aisle on their side. But to be clear, the primary impetus is from the right wing religious zealots, followed by the left wingers who are heavy into performative virtue. "Sex trafficking" happens to be the perfect guise to get BOTH sides of the aisle involved, as left wingers and the whole "believe women" caucus leap on it as an easy win.

3) OnlyFans is "based in the UK" but the original British owner sold it in 2018 to some shady Ukranian/Russians who were already running similar sites. There's countless stories from both their previous sites and now OnlyFans about performers not getting paid, having access to funds cut off, being unable to reach a human or get any sort of response from the OF administrative Ivory tower.

4) As stated before, OF was not originally designed for porn. They even banned porn in their unenforced terms of service for the longest while, until someone pointed it out and they quietly changed it to allow porn. I think the use of it for porn may have vastly increased when it was sold to the Ukranian/Russians.

5) The anti-porn crusaders, again under the "sex trafficking" guise (and also the child p*rn guise) have been lobbying Visa and Mastercard for awhile now to change its rules as to what their platforms can be used for. They were heavily quoted in the NYT article that prompted V&M to block Pornhub from using their networks, which resulted in Pornhub (Mindgeek) booting massive amounts of porn off their many sites and then shutting down XTube.

6) Smelling blood in the water, the crusaders then got Visa and MC to change their rules for porn producers and made them a lot more restrictive. This happened in April. OF and the other Fans sites began requiring performers to have signed 2257 forms verifying model ids (two forms of id!) and signed model statements. This caused a lot of homemade porn to be removed from OnlyFans earlier this year. Basically the deal was OF COULD ask for these releases at any time, but I don't know if they ever actually did. The performers has to attest that they had these signed releases.

These new rules also stated that any uploaded porn had to be reviewed PRIOR to being shown, and livestreams had to be approved during. That is a lot of work for a site to do, since performers could no longer upload clips without having a delay before they were posted as everything now had to be manually approved.

7) Mindgeek/Pornhub - They have been lazy for a decade. They haven't invested much in their platforms, the backend is shit for models and for users, and they got blindsided, resting on their success. They had pushed off attempts to get them to police their network better for years, always said they were but didn't really do much that was visible. Is it possible they could have avoided that big takedown? Who knows.

8) Did I mention OF was shady as fuck? They haven't updated their terms of service yet so no one knows exactly what the new rules will be. I can guess, though, based on what they have said this far, is that they are allowing nudity in both videos and photos but no sexual contact or interaction. This is similar to how Patreon runs - Patreon allows nudity and fetish under the guise of "art" but does not allow any sexual touching or performance. So you can be nude, possibly even visibly aroused, but you can't touch it or do anything with it. And even then it's a bit of a gray area since what consists of porn is rather nebulous.

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So OnlyFans will be taking that route I expect. But since it's OF they will be weird and vague about it and spotty in their enforcement. Their statements today hadn't apparently been communicated to their support staff as the support staff were still assuring people that no, OF wasn't banning porn! But if one has been paying attention there have been clear warning signs that OF was headed in this direction for almost a year.

9) The new rules from Visa and Mastercard will have the impact of driving porn back to the studio model and less from individual entrepreneurs, because keeping the paperwork, checking IDs (and making copies of them) are time consuming and involve some business accumen, and let's face it, the majority of performers are not former engineers and scientists.

My credentials - I do some fetish work with nudity and am rare in that I also have a day job as a engineer, and I've been following this closely because I have never trusted any of the hosting platforms I use, not since Tumblr banned porn. All it takes is investors wanting to buy or buying the company, or the company prepping for/going IPO, for them to take a more puritan - and mainstream - stance on what they allow on their platforms.

The timing for the OnlyFans announcement was odd, this may be why - sounds like they may be getting their own NYT-style article treatment shortly:

[quote]Not if they maintain a social media presence on Twitter and Instagram. That's not going away overnight. From there they can link to their softcore and hardcore content's new home.

I don't know if anyone here knows this but Twitter is moving towards allowing users to charge people to PAY for content.

Essentially you can tweet as you normally would AND then you can make "special" tweets for people who subscribe to your feed that only they can see.

I already have the feature, I don't use it. I just often get test features on my account. Onlyfans may be going away but since most of those boys are already on Twitter where they have the majority of their following it will be on to the next one. (You have to have 10K followers to even get the feature and most of them already do.)

It’s the TERFS fault!!!

Lol r247. Everything must be about them!

[quote] Once the people who own these sites earn more money than God, they become politically correct all of a sudden.

It can also be that, once these sites become successful, they are on anti sex activists' radar contacting all kinds of sponsors and credit card companies to give them hell for associating with that ... smut.

It's like with youtube. There are those One Million Mom shrieking cunts who flag every gay themed upload no matter if it's actually explicit or not.

Conservatives have caught up on social media and, with the help of trolls, make social media a very unpleasant place. Unless platforms, moderators, and users become more selective about who they allow to visit and contribute to their platforms / site pretty much every topic will be taken over by those who strongly oppose certain topics of discussion.

Look on the bright side: that's about $15 less per month I'll be spending.

Free porn will always be available. Once money, ads, and credit card companies are involved, it gives the anti-sex brigade something to get their teeth in.

Obviously it's not about sex trafficking. It's about puritan bigots demonizing sex as a commercial service.

LOL at the not-so-stealth right wing posters who use the very common strategy of putting on a spotlight on the few bad OnlyFans accounts that make it ok to stick it to the majority of good ones. Just like Planned Parenthood, so called entitlement programs, etc.

Gays can't have nice things. Just ask Craigslist.

R252 oh, I'd like to see your statistics for that. Twitter is filled with "$3 0.2% Top Onlyfans" that are just get rich quick schemes from grifters, charging $50 for a 30 second badly-lit video of someone's penis. Even Bella Thorne was a grifter on the platform which didn't do them any favors. Had she not been as big a name, would she have had to refund the money? Not bloody likely.

Of course there are some good accounts, but it seems like the majority might, in fact, be shitty ones. And remember, OF rarely gives refunds. It's also notable that while OF added a ton of ways to separate people from their money with subscription and pay per message options, they didn't add a way to search the platform or require that performers list up front what you're getting in return for your money.

There's a reason for that. (See the "Dark patterns" post above).

How will Americans see uncut cocks without it?

R250 “Look on the bright side: that's about $15 less per month I'll be spending” I totally agree! I’ve spent a lot over the past couple of years and nearly all of the OF accounts are a waste of money. Some of them have done amazingly well out of OF so I guess it’s back to camming for them.

So they have chosen to become the next Tumblr, and like Tumblr, they will be worth less than a fraction of what they are worth now within a short time.

Imagine unironically Writing this r45 my god this take is dumb

Meh, why are we supposed to care?

All the videos I've seen that were made for posting to OnlyFans have been boring homemade videos from a camera on a tripod, or else irritating and decidedly unerotic tease videos like the ones that annoying Nick Sandell makes. So it's not like the quality of adult content will suffer from a consumer perspective.

And from a producer/"content creator" perspective, there are OnlyFans alternatives already that appear to be less popular right now but which seem to offer the same service.

It does seem odd that OnlyFans would create a business model, become successful because of it and then undermine it, but I'm not a porn hound who pays people for the privilege of watching them pose or jerk off or swap loads with strangers several days a week, so I don't care. I'm surprised so many people do.

[quote]How will Americans see uncut cocks without it?

R255, isn't that what Bel Ami is for?

Does that mean that they can't have porn pics on OnlyFans, BUT can send them through their DMs to paying members who pay extra to receive those DMs? If so, it's just legitimizing the extra cash crab.

R244 you need to go out in the sunshine hon and get some new hobbies and interests.

Nipple-pinch addict Austin Wolf is making a pitch for his own OnlyFans-like service.

Tumblr banned porn years ago and stripped all of it from the platform, as can be seen on countless current Tumblr posts like this one.

This is hilarious because I never pay for porn. Yes, I am cheap but the whores I watch are even cheaper.

I wonder if this has anything to do with the war on porn sold the the public as war on pedos that basically is happening all over the internet. Xtube got sued and knocked out 90% of what they had up there unless you were willing to verify with legal ID and other personal info. Now they are shutting down completely last I heard. So are about a half a dozen other porn sites owned by them.

Proud prostitute at R244

[QUOTE] What proportion do we reckon escort?

High! A lot of the women just strip and then masturbate so this ban may not affect them.

R245 BBC

R264 - I just reported that post and it's been removed. It's from a blog which deactivated years ago. Reblogs from deactivated blogs stay on Tumblr.

Samantha Bee recently shared this video on YouTube, jump to the 9 min mark. It reminded me of the hype over OnlyFans not allowing hardcore porn anymore.

In it, she talks about the issues with sites like Pintrest becoming a hotbed for social media influencers to market their products. More specifically, unsubstantiated and unproven medical supplements. The FDA doesn't have the capacity to keep track of all these people doing this on there, and large corporations are using this as a loophole to market their stuff without any legal disclaimers.

These cam sites may have some initial terms and policies when you sign up to become a paid performer, but let's be real here, they're not actively being enforced by any means. It's not just a matter of being a "prude", I'm personally very liberal myself, but there has been a lot of downright illegal shit slipping through the cracks on a regular basis. Even YouTube has had this problem since it's inception.

That said, I don't think OnlyFans will ever be able to elevate it's "brand" over being nothing more than an amateur porn site.

R233, if he's straight, why is he showing his asshole to gay men?

Hell’s bells are a ring in’ for many of you bitches today, huh?

Seriously though. I am not into porn but if this is how you make your money? This really sucks.

Good news. A lot of these OnlyFans whores were too good to hustle outside of the internet. Now they’re gonna come crawling for John’s. It will be a buyers market in short time.

R272, uh no. Do better in life, dude. Check yourself. Smh

R273 I’m jaded and ugly. You gotta do what you gotta do for pleasure.

R268

You’re the fucking worst. Fuck you and the entire anti-porn brigade.

Connor

I know someone who is on OnlyFans. They do cheesecake type modeling and fake stripping with very tiny lingerie.

When I saw this, I couldn’t believe it. Who’s looking at that on OnlyFans, I thought. There were comments posted on another account they have, complaining that it’s not explicit, implying it was sort of false advertising, or boring. This is pretty recent for them. Before this, they were doing a lot of, here’s my hubby, isn’t he cute, type stuff. Now it’s wifey doing this stuff, hubby is nowhere around. It just seems gross to me, they both have good jobs.

They were also pushing various products. It went from pushing clothing lines, to supplements, to “selling bikinis,” now it’s this. It seems like the husband pushed the wife into this more and more. Now she’s basically doing a PG rated strip while he sits back and collects the cash. This isn’t amateur stuff either, they obviously have really good lighting and cameras. I saw people start to comment, where’s your husband, or telling the husband to stop her. He started the account in the first place. So people that follow them know who he is and know about him professionally (completely unrelated profession). Posters comment about her like she’s some dumb uneducated bimbo, but I know her, and she makes a lot of money doing something completely unrelated too. It looks like she’s just another dumb whore with a controlling husband that found a way to pimp his wife out to support him, which is weird because he owns his own business. It must not have been making that much, or he doesn’t want to work any more. They haven’t been married very long, and the minute they got married, it went from selling things to selling her.

Just everything about this is so squicky. I’m watching her throw away her career in real time, and she’s aging out of this too. It’s gross. I guess this is what the future on OnlyFans will be, housewives trying to make some extra money.

R262 Oddly enough I have plenty, I just like to be informed. For me it's easy. For you?

R219 do you have an OnlyFans or subscription offering too? Or is it just Chaturbate? The reusability of content on subscription sites seems more appealing to me but if you enjoy live interaction and the ephemerality of livestreaming I guess Chaturbate would be better.

[quote] Why are there so many anti-gay posts on this thread? Fuck y’all conservatives

Why are there so many anti-grifter posts on this thread? Fuck y'all people who have actually worked in their lives.

I fixed that for you at no charge, however if you want to follow me on OnlyFans...

R279 I'm only on Chaturbate. I have been thinking about starting an Only Fans, but I guess that's going to be a big wait and see and will depend on their new rules.

[quote]but I guess that's going to be a big wait and see and will depend on their new rules.

Will Bill Maher be creating the new rules?

Thankful that bankers are not bonkers for immoral fuckoffs

R277, let me guess, you applied for a position at Dollar General and didn't get the job.

[quote]Will Bill Maher be creating the new rules?

Better he should create new rules than his own OnlyFans account.

[quote]I just reported that post and it's been removed.

Narc.

[quote]I just reported that post and it's been removed.

You sound fun.

Does anyone know for sure what the new rules are going to be? The performers I follow don't have sex on camera. Are they safe?

Does this affect people like Tyler Posey or Dylan Geick or just the porn performers?

[quote]The performers I follow don't have sex on camera. Are they safe?

Well, probably from STDs.

Whores and pimps will find a way. If it's not OnlyFans it will be somewhere else.

Yes, they will find a way, but the more decentralized it is, the harder they will have to work to get Johns.

And OnlyFans just emailed everyone to inform them of the new rules.

Yes, they are banning porn.

Yesterday a lot of idiots on Twitter were trying themselves into knots because they were SO SURE it was misinformation, for some reason, and calling the reporters liars, with total self assurance!

Tyga apparently planning to set up his own alternative platform to Onlyfans.

R294 hah if he doesn't have it out already he's going to miss the window.

r295 Uou could be right!

Lol at this tweet a frivolous and serious point it makes at the same time.

Onlyplan, tee hee 🤭

“Am I Going to Lose My House?”: OnlyFans’ Pivot Leaves Adult Content Creators With Fewer Options:

What's the problem? If these whores make $400,000 a month like they say, they can still make a nice nest egg between now and October 1.

This is an interesting bit of information about who some of the people are who pushed for Onlyfans to change their policy.

Investor Bill Ackman whose wife took money from Jeffrey Epstein.

typical r300. its always some sanctimonious cunt telling everyone what they should do when in reality they themselves are fucked up.

r301 Indeed .Wikipedia describes him as an activist investor but I bet his implementation of his moral code when making investment decisions is selective when it suits.

This cracked me up. Almost every reaction in one bingo card:

OnlyFans is the latest in a long line of platforms that made it by exploiting adult content. VCRs were nowhere until people discovered adult tapes, then DVDs. Online, Tumblr and now OnlyFans. Underneath it all are the banks and credit card processors that act as filters. This has all happened before and it will all happen again.

Yes, it's happened before but the answer is always a brand new technology. Porn drive tech, I am not exaggerating. The most searched terms on Google are porn. Porn went from Magazines = Film = Video = DVDs = Internet. What's then next big breakthrough?

Things have reached a pretty pass

When someone pretty lower class

Graceless and vulgar, uninspired

Can be respected and admired!

I can't believe people who don't make their money this way care about this. Who else gives a shit? Porn can be accessed free on countless websites.

I agree with the increasingly common sentiment that sex workers should be respected like any other human being, but I don't agree that it's an admirable line of work because I think it's a self-destructive line of work even when it's regulated and legitimized.

I've seen young people over the past decade become a generation of creepy semi-robotic self-marketers who as Lady Gaga said "live for the applause." All of us on social media are addicted to looking for "likes"; they were engineered by Facebook originally to trigger dopamine and get us addicted to superifical feedback so we'd use the site obsessively.

Young people grew up with this as normal.

Then they reached their sexual comings of age and took off their clothes and realized they can get zillions of likes and comments and DMs and the world would open up to them the more explicit they got. And they hear about how awful their futures are with limited jobs and lifetimes of student loan debt and so sex work and exhibitionism is an immediate prospect for them without the negatives of doing any kind of work. They've become expert marketers of their bodies who understand how to manipulate masses of people based on base animal desires and social media analytics and otherwise, many are idiots with no grasp of why intellectual curiosity and skills are important. They're going to crash and burn when they get beyond the youthful age when sex work works for them. Some are or will be wealthy as a result of what they are doing but it won't lay a foundation for a solid future and they will fail within a decade and go into absolute crises.

This shit is not good for us. I'm not speaking from a Puritan standpoint on sex, but from a standpoint of adult development, psychologically, intellectually and emotionally.

Porn used to be a place where troubled people with emotional damage go to act out from their traumas, and it was relatively few people. This democratized homemade porn mainstreaming is extending damage to a lot of people who otherwise would not have been but who are choosing the easy immediate payoff rather than using their formative youthful years investing in their minds and their capabilities. It's fucked up.

OnlyFans has been copied by other vendors and people will keep this up, but I wish they'd all fail. Yes, people have the right to engage in this kind of sex work but it's not good for anybody who does it, and from a consumer standpoint all the porn I've seen that was recorded for OnlyFans has been poor quality and unexciting. I don't see any upside to it.

Great analysis, R307.

Just because R307 doesn’t like it, it has to shut down. Got it.

Perspective of an articulate whore.

[quote]Who else gives a shit? Porn can be accessed free on countless websites.

So, its all good for you as long as the porn you consume is free on the internet, but when they monetize it personally, your concern for their dignity and sanity suddenly grows. How full of hypocritical shit you are? Also, the porn you consume are not "free". The websites that host them are still in it to make money. If there is no money, then they would shut down and there would be no internet porn. Its just that the internet has saturated the market, so the competition causes them to prefer ads for money over subscription. I'm sure no one was selling VSH for free in the hay days of early porn, where only a handful of stars were making them. Similarly, if you have such concern over adult entertainment industry, then why only porn? Should strip clubs, erotic performances, escort services also shut down?

[quote]but it won't lay a foundation for a solid future and they will fail within a decade and go into absolute crises.

R307 How is this different than any other failed entrepreneurs, investors, traders, tech start-ups and small business owners? Majority of those people burn out too and the success stories actually comprise very little percentage of the whole. By your logic, the only way in life is to get a 9-5 job for security.

^^ I meant VHS.

R312 I stated my opinions. My opinions don't interfere in any way with your ability to watch porn or to rent young sex workers by the hour if you choose to do so. It's just another person's opinion. Other people have other opinions. We needn't attack one another because of it.

I know right, r299? If they were making good money and panicking now realizing they have nothing for food, rent or mortgages. Then maybe they shouldn't have spent it all traveling during a pandemic, partying, and buying expensive brand name luxury items to show off on social media.

Also r299 only the early more popular adopters made six figures. These whores lying. Are they all in the top 3%, 1%, 0.1%, 0.02% of creators?

OnlyFans out with a statement today in support of Sex Workers(tm) on Twitter. It's not going over well.

I also find it hilarious the self importance of many of the idiots posting in the Twitter thread who are demanding OnlyFans give them their 20% back and apparently are serious.

Like they have a right to that because OF is banning porn in two months? You used the platform, they take 20% off the top. In return you get the platform and they pay for the bandwidth of streaming your videos. Monthly. Them banning porn in the future doesn't mean you didn't use the platform before then. The narcissism of some people.

Wow just like effin wow dude!

Griffin is so sexy but such a bro.

I guess suicide rates will be going even higher.

Why, r320?

R319 We love Griffin here, even if he’s a major whore. He is still a gay bro.

JustForFans, which stands to be OnlyFans' biggest competitor, is undergoing a DDOS attack. They seem to think it's OF or some other competitor trying to knock them off during the Great Migration:

I am not one of your OnlyFaaaaaaaaaaans!

[quote]This shit is not good for us. I'm not speaking from a Puritan standpoint on sex, but from a standpoint of adult development, psychologically, intellectually and emotionally.

I disagree. In general, the real problem with sex is society's relationship with sex where it's ok to judge and shame other people for it. People insisting that someone is less qualified for a particular job, because they supposedly lack better judgement what's appropriate in this society. A lot of people's issue is that they care too much what other people think about them and let petty judgement from others get to them.

Of course, everything - including sex - can become a self-destructive addiction for some people, but addictions are always a symptom of a deeper issue (sex as means of receiving approval from others, for example).

And I disagree. Look at the reactions from the people who use OnlyFans. They've made a lot of money by having hyper-promiscuous unprotected sex and believe that this makes them hardworking entreprenteurs—entirely dependent on one streaming service, and when it changed its business model, all these people are acting like their natural rights to rake in cash from the public by fucking strangers is being taken away. They're devastated, they feel violated, they feel that they aren't being given what they deserve after all their hard work. I find it a bizarre societal development.

R326 It's not bizarre in the slightest. Young people have become dependent on a gig economy due to stagnating wages, hyperinflation, higher tuition costs, and increased competition. Without gig work, society could well collapse.

^And Onlyfans is just one example. Amazon and Google have shown that they could cut the cord using any type of justification they wanted.

I've seen a lot of ridiculous "I know several people who are suicidal at the moment at the thought of OnlyFans going under" etc.

Like bitch, do you think that over-the-top guilt shit is going to work on some cold-blooded Ukranians? I think not, it only works on Twitter. The "know people on the verge of suicide!!!" posters are also the ones DEMANDING that OnlyFans give them their 20% commission back from the beginning of their accounts, for some reason.

Incidentally, JustForFans charges 30%. Some people are pissed that others are suggesting that one because the owner of JustForFans allegedly groped some of his adult porn models at some point, but it's the biggest alternative to OnlyFans and stands to gain the most. I'm totally unsurprised that the Ukranians at OnlyFans would be mounting an attack on their site - they play dirty.

If I were 24 years old, had $150k in student loans for a political science degree, and my only jobs were an unpaid internship six years ago and selling close-ups of cum dripping out of my ass, I would probably be suicidal, too.

The other thing that's funny in those OnlyFans Twitter threads is that some of the people are there humblebragging.

"OnlyFans should give us back our 20% from the start of our accounts!"

"Haha! If they did that, they'd owe me $450k!" - says a person with "0% Top OnlyFans" in her profile yet just 32k followers on Twitter

One annoying thing about the comments is the "Anyways here's my tinyfans/roundtablefans/manyvids site, 30% off today! (link)" prevalent from people.

Anyone with half a brain set up a backup account at JustForFans or some similar site ages ago and wasn't dependent on just OnlyFans anyway.

[quote] This is an act of minority exploitation. Performers like myself built this site and you have made literary billions of dollars off our backs. Now you cast us aside. You were never a safe place, you were a pimp.

Isn't a pimp a sex worker's agent? That's literally what they are.

Gabriel Cross is hardly a minority unless he's admitting to being a little person.

Gabriel Cross is a right wing Brexiter and someone who thinks he's smarter than he actually is because he's British.

But he's a cute little nugget, R333. He reminds me of a feisty little pumped up fiddler crab.

He's a hot little person, true. Maybe if he wore a muzzle sex would be possible with him.

Call me a crazy, evil puritan, but these people are getting a taste of the life they will be confronting when they can no longer sell sex for money because of aging out and being replaced by prettier in-demand models.

They can lash out at their video streaming service, but how will they lash out in five years when the world unfairly stops funneling money to them for getting dicked despite all their 'hard work'?

I really hope these people are getting some inkling that they are going to need some kind of skill and non-sexual working experience at some point. Getting fucked doesn't pay most people's bills past their 30s.

r336 the difference is that they would have more than six weeks to prepare for something like that. Not like they'd suddenly turn into Methuselah overnight and their vaginas would fall off.

If OnlyFans is smart, it licenses access to its stars' information to the CDC to expedite the time it takes to zero in on the next Patient Zero.

r336 Craig Marks young British gay pornstar isn't happy either. I think he'd planned to rake in the money throughout his twenties.

R337 Some of the guys of porn do seem to change practically overnight.

James Huntsman when he took to the scene...

...and then after he blew up, developled steroidal booboes and a bloated face and then disappeared from the scene.

r338 patient zero?

The thing that's stupid is that OnlyFans never promoted Sex Workers on their website and they don't even have a search feature. So most of the traffic the performers sent them came from the performers' Twitter/Instagram accounts anyway. Of course since subscribers have a lot of accounts on OnlyFans they'll have to set up new accounts on the other streaming sites as well, if they haven't already.

The performers just need to migrate their data and set up on a new system, promote the change on their Twitters/Instagrams like the promotion they are already doing, and their subscribers will slowly migrate. Yeah, probably all of them will lose some subscribers initially, but they'll get them back as everything stabilizes.

I think that's the issue - there will definitely be an interruption to money for some of them, or at least they will not make as much as they were for a period of time, until the dust settles. But it's unlikely anyone will just go to zero overnight assuming they act quickly and migrate.

r341 I think you missed the year between where he grew that hideous beard that made him look like a homeless person. I think that was him, anyway.

Huntsman still had a hot body, despite the gynecomastia which he could get surgery to correct.

r240 he's in his twenties? 😲

^ r340

[quote]They've become expert marketers of their bodies who understand how to manipulate masses of people based on base animal desires and social media analytics and otherwise, many are idiots with no grasp of why intellectual curiosity and skills are important. They're going to crash and burn when they get beyond the youthful age when sex work works for them

r307 the same concept can be applied to professional athletes. Yet society worships sports figures like they are gods. They can treat women like shit by having a long suffering wife and sidepiece girls with side babies, and they are still glorified.

Many of them exit their sports after their "youthful age", practically disabled from injuries and have few other skills. However society ensures they will live a comfortable life by having professionals invest their huge salaries and get them other gigs. You know why? Because these guys represent the apex of male heterosexuality. But let anyone else try to prosper in the same manner that is not in line with heteronormative behavior. People have the nerve to say, its not healthy and productive for society. This is the way of the world.

One of the OF accounts that I subscribe to posted a message today saying that he's moving everything to JFF and after 10/1 there will only be photos on OF. And he says he's going to give current OF subscribers a "code" to use to start a JFF subscription.

And then right below that, he's posted an ad/link shilling for someone else's OF account. Huh? We're supposed to start subscribing to a new account when everything's about to go south?

R336 You got gay porn whores from the 00s still going today. You know who they are. With the rise of those bear/daddy actors like Tomas, Manuel, Dallas Steele, and Cain Marko these whores seriously believe they can do their thing until their 50s if not 60s

It just seems strange to me, the whole thing. My grandma taught me, "you don't want to be where you're not welcome."

There are OnlyFans alternatives. I see people promoting them. Porn star Austin Wolf owns one and he has announced his team will migrate all data from anyone's OnlyFans account. People who direct their followers from Twitter, TikTok etc. can redirect to another company.

Instead of freaking out at OnlyFans, saying their hard cocked work isn't appreciated while simultaneously begging the company to change its mind, why not migrate to a company run by a sex worker that won't change its mind? Why not welcome the opportunity to to stop giving OnlyFans the money they bring in if they feel disrespected by OnlyFans?

If I hated my boss, made money for my boss, felt disrespected by my boss and had an opportunity to do the same work for a different boss and share my money with that boss instead, I would make the move. I wouldn't hang around and demand respect from the guy who I felt treated me disrespectfully.

If social media is any guide then all of the UKs big cities eg London, Liverpool, Manchester, Brighton, Leeds ,Birmingham etc are likely going to have an influx of hustlers,rentboys, escorts etc hanging around the gay scene in the pubs and clubs 'looking for clients 'as a result of this Onlyfans change.

R349 You know who they all are because there are so few of them. Most people can't pull it off. You may as well argue that an unlimited number of young pop stars who are image driven can have the careers of Madonna and Cher because Madonna and Cher do it. They are the exceptions to the machinery of entertainment. Most people are used for profits and discarded by their 30s if not before.

Didn't Austin Wolf get cancelled? I keep hearing he's got an alternative but no one ever mentions its name.

r350 there's nothing Twitter loves more than a pile-on, and right now they're piling on OnlyFans. For good reason, but there's SO much hyperbole and drama. It's entertaining, at least.

[quote]Instead of freaking out at OnlyFans, saying their hard cocked work isn't appreciated while simultaneously begging the company to change its mind, why not migrate to a company run by a sex worker that won't change its mind? Why not welcome the opportunity to to stop giving OnlyFans the money they bring in if they feel disrespected by OnlyFans?

The same thing happens to Youtubers who get strikes...once you have built your audience on a platform its hard to transition. It like actors starting a music career lol. People are used to you being available in one place and they dont like it when they have to find you elsewhere

R353 I don't know anything about him being cancelled. It wouldn't surprise me. Despite all the pressure today to insist sex workers are no different than the average doctors, coal miners and IT engineers, DataLounge has taught me that a huge fucking share of porn stars are really disturbed people who commit violent crimes including rape (Sebastian Young and Topher DiMaggio come to mind), kill themselves (too many to count), are drug addicted, or even say things like the NextDoor/Corbin Fisher twink who said "COVID hasn't killed enough people" at the height of the pandemic, with a half million Americans dead and counting.

Austin Wolf's version of OnlyFans is called "4my.fans" (not sure if that's where the dot goes?) and I've seen a couple gay porn stars announce they are moving there. I just can't figure why they would resist doing that at this point. OnlyFans told them to get the fuck out, so why would anyone want to keep paying them a commission?

I didn't know this until now, but apparently OnlyFans ALSO limits the numbers of videos you can delete each day. It used to be 20, and now it's 1 (!)

It's kind of telling when a platform has to add stops like that in order to prevent people from leaving en masse.

That itself is kind of weird because OnlyFans said they had to remove the offending content by October 1st or risk being banned. Some accounts have nothing but offending content.

R355 I think YouTube is different because although it isn't a monopoly, it is basically a monopoly. It's like NBC and CBS in the old broadcast TV days. Vimeo is like a UHF channel that people forget is there; if it wasn't on one of the big four back then, it pretty much wasn't seen.

But as someone above said, people don't browse and search OF for "shows," they follow links from social media accounts to the website specifically to subscribe to a given person's account to watch them sexually exploit themselves. I think horny men would follow any naked person who gets their dick hard to any website; they're not exclusively loyal to any goven site in the way that people default to YouTube and watch whatever the algorithm feeds them.

Oh here's why Austin Wolf got cancelled. I don't hear it being mentioned as much lately though. It does seem like kind of nothing.

r359 the main issue is one of friction to signing up. The subscribers have to make a new account on a new site, make sure their credit card company won't reject the charges (mine did that the few times I've signed up to adult sites, as "fraud checks"), and then sign up to the star. So there's some new friction involved.

Every time a subscriber has to THINK about their subscription, there's a not-insignificant chance they will decide to cancel or just not move to the new site. That's why it makes the most sense for people to focus on a handful of the new sites, and why JustForFans already has a big head start since they're #2. Totally not surprised they'd be suffering a DDOS attack today.

Oh, and that's also why I think most of the performers will see a dip in their revenues, short term, until the dust has settled from all this. That's really what they should be upset about, even if many of them don't realize it at the time. I don't really see that mentioned, though, as Twitter isn't the place for nuance.

R361 They built their customer base once, they can do it again. If they really thought like entrepreneurs who run businesses, then they'd realize the cost of doing business, the hiccups involved, times of marketing and re-growing a customer base, and they'd much rather partner with a loyal partner than with someone they know doesn't believe in their business as OnlyFans has no firmly stated it does not.

r362 But what's to say when Justforfans gets even bigger it doesn't pull the same trick or if PayPal and banks refuse to facilitate them?

R360 That's actually one of the weakest cases for 'canceling' someone I've seen. He told someone if they don't like this country they should move. That is not at all the same thing as saying "go back to where you came from." I mean, the dude seems to fuck a new twink every single day of the year and he looks like a bored, nipple-pinching Labrador retriever humping a leg while he does it. I'm not exactly a fan, but if what you posted is the worst he's said, then he's practically a saint by gay porn star standards. Billy Santoro, cruel disease spreader and overt racist, deserved to be canceled and Topher DiMaggio, who managed to turn in bored-looking performances his whole career while being an alleged serial rapist, deserved to be canceled. "Move to another country where you'll be happier" doesn't seem like such an offense to me.

r364 it will likely happen again, and again, because Visa and Mastercard are the ones calling the shots and they have been the ones requiring all of the documentation and data from companies on their network due to pressures from various outside entities. They've been tightening their rules on porn the past few years, and increasing the requirements and generally creating a much bigger administrative hurdle for companies like OnlyFans to jump through. OnlyFans passes it on to their performers, but they as a company are responsible for enforcing it, and the enforcement aspect is where they are falling short. Porn is getting pushed back towards the studio model.

I see a lot of ignorant posts on Twitter in the OnlyFans threads about "why can't they just use ccbill or another adult card provider" where the people don't realize that Visa and Mastercard are the underpinning of the vast majority of credit card processing, worldwide. Even ccbill has to bow to them or risk having their access to the networks pulled.

The issue with OnlyFans, though, is that they SEEM to have done this as a reaction to that pending BBC expose about their business practices, especially around the moderation of illegal porn. It really seems like a panic situation for them because they were expecting to get the Pornhub treatment where Visa and MC outright dropped support for Mindgeek (owners of Pornhub), plus it seemed like they have been moving in that direction for awhile, as far as not allowing porn on the site. To me that seems a bit off, though - I think there may be another reason for the overnight reaction we haven't learned yet.

r365 he's a big SJWer, and they are very quick to attack their own. I think it happened during the whole BLM riots thing and when other porn stars (Billy Santoro) were being super-cancelled.

[quote] that pending BBC expose

That’s exactly why I subscribe!

Here's the reddit thread where they're calling Austin a pedo.

Remember the olden days when people couldn't just make libelous statements without there being repercussions?

He actually seems super "woke."

[quote] “I don’t know if I am the right person [to speak about racism]” Wolf says. “White privilege is real. I’m fully aware of what it is and what it means. This isn’t to say that I understand what it’s like to be a person of color... I know life is easy for me in comparison. I know I have a head start in life. I’m 6’4, 265 lbs, and I’m white. It doesn’t get much easier than that.”

[quote] "Watching my friends of color having to work harder, struggle harder, [with] much less followers, much less fans — that’s just in my industry — it’s things that I see,” he continues. “I don’t like when people are picked on. I don’t like when people are thought of as less than, whether it’s for color, femininity, homosexuality. Life has been easier for me so it’s my duty to stick up. How do we sit comfortable… doing as well as we do seeing what we see and saying nothing? It’s hard for me not to say something.” “I think that video needed to come from somebody that looked like me,” he adds.

[quote] Wolf wrote back, “Then move. That’s a small-minded answer from [an] ignorant person. Plenty of places in the world for u to try out. Have at it. Trust me. No one’s stopping u.” Wolf claims he didn’t know the user was Black when he made the remarks. “I woke up the next morning and it turns out that young man is a person of color,” Wolf says. “People are assuming that that conversation was race-based and it was not. I was talking to Americans in general: We have to vote. We have to register.” “Needless to say, it was a brash and insensitive comment, especially given where we are,” he added. “And I wasn’t paying attention at all to who I was speaking to. It was rude and it was a mistake. Of course, [now] people are lumping me into the same category as [Santoro], which is really disheartening.”

A podcast I heard this week, either the NYT "The Daily" or The Guardian, was about how all online tech companies enable child pornography and have invested a lot of effort and money into keeping it out of the news cycle but hardly any into cracking down on the illegal child endangerment. That really should be a scandal for the times, but I guess the companies are too big and rich for anyone to care.

R353 No but I do know Austin Wolf has made videos with guys not knowing he is recording nor has anyone without an OnlyFans got paid for appearing in his videos.

With a process like that 4MyFans will get taken down quick.

How big is 4myfans?

R371 True. Again, though, if these home broadcasters are going to claim that their self-exploitation for easy money is legitimate business, then they are going to have to learn the ins and outs of actually running a business, including all associated regulations, marketing expenses to earn customer bases, recovery in slowed economies or when there are tech glitches, etc. One of the vendors I work with disappeared over the pandemic. I just found out last week. They have the art files I need to print something and I can't get in touch with anyone. I can't take it out on them for "abandoning me." It's just something I need to work around and recover from and these things happen in business. If sex workers are going to call themselves entrepreneurs, they need to operate their businesses as businesses and not act like they've been abandoned at the altar.

My little conspiracy theory is that they are shutting down the porn section of Only Fans because big business believed it was easier for people to make money whoring themselves out on the internet than working shitty fast food jobs that no one wants to take.

r374 see r216!

^ Whoops didn't see that. LOL I guess I'm not the only person who thought this.

Too bad for the GOP and shitty big business CEO's that Chaturbate still exists.

Easy cum easy go.

R366, apparently JustforFans lets you pay in cryptocurrency (I haven't tried it though)

[quote]So, its all good for you as long as the porn you consume is free on the internet, but when they monetize it personally, your concern for their dignity and sanity suddenly grows.

There are people who want to put down pornstars. They call them sluts and whores. They want to critique anyone that dares show their penis or tits for cash. Then they go home and jerk off furiously to them. They start threads on them across the internet and talk about how they want to fuck them and ask, "What's your favorite porn scene?"

It's fine if it's free. If they want to be paid then it becomes a problem. The minute they're asked to treat them like human beings is the exact time they suddenly have an issue with them.

I think the real problem is that these companies love the idea of making money off of porn but when they are tasked with regulating themselves it suddenly becomes a problem. Hire a team and keep the bad shit off your platform by reviewing what goes up. Force performers to get anyone they're doing a scene with to sign documentation that they've agreed to do the scene like any studio would do.

So fucking what. Everyone who has any sort of career will, at some point, have the rug pulled out from under them. They had a good run and now it's over. You can tweet all you want but the gig is up and you will be forced to move on whether you're ready or not.

Just because you're young, hot and adored, the hard reality is that big business does not give a shit about your future or your rent. And make no mistake, porn is a big business enterprise now and in no way exempt from the same "disruptions" that every white and blue collar worker faces.

Yes, R381, thank you. I don't accept that these are a special class of people who should be sheltered from the harsh realities of the world because people like to get off to them. We all go through shit like this in our working lives. It's part of the human experience. It's one of the many ways we get to learn how life sucks before we die.

Daniel Montoya has already found a new job!

R380 one of the big changes in the visa / mc rules in April was that they wanted ALL videos pre-approved before they were posted. So now you as a performer can post a video but then you have to wait for someone on the platform side to personally approve it. That is a big undertaking for a platform to manage, but they have to because Visa and MC are forcing them to.

R381 it's human to have SOME compassion for people facing adversity, though. Not having any makes one seem like a cynical bitter cunt.

Of course the "Me" generations of ultra-narcisssists that have taken over Twitter are ridiculously overreacting because hyperbole is standard now to get any attention at all.

You can't be "concerned and perturbed" by a situation, you have to be ON THE CUSP OF SUICIDE OMG AND LOSING MY HOUSE AND MY ENTIRE LIFE now.

I get why it's easy to roll your eyes at the histrionics and drama but everyone is still human, ultimately.

[quote]one of the big changes in the visa / mc rules in April was that they wanted ALL videos pre-approved before they were posted.

Do they also pre-approve the slave labor that creates cheap goods from Asia that we use in the US? Doubtful.

That was quick.

Let's hope that Chaturbate hired different developers for it rather than the ones that made their current shitty site! They're as bad as Pornhub when it comes to resting on their laurels.

OnlyFans new TOS bans masturbation among other things, due to pressure from Visa/Mastercard. Chaturbate accepts Visa/Mastercard payments for tokens. How long can they continue?

R389 Chaturbate does ID verification for all its models and make them sign the model agreement to ensure their adulthood and consent. That's what OF lacks, which is why its under fire for by Visa/MC.

Tired: OnlyFans

Wired: OnlyFlans

The funny thing is, Griffin Barrows. Gabriel Cross, Craig Marks, and everyone else bitching the loudest are among the most ubiquitous OF models. They get on my last fucking nerve and the often work with each other too.

R390 OnlyFans does that as well and has for a long time. That isn't anything new.

[quote] Griffin Barrows. Gabriel Cross, Craig Marks...often work with each other too.

They don't work with each other. They fuck.

r387 A welcome development for many I am sure!

R389 at issue are the documentation requirements. OnlyFans had some other reason for this move that wasn't related to the new documentation requirements by the card processors. They're just using that as an excuse.

r396 What do you suspect that reason might be?

It’s been well-established OnlyFans was merely giving people who violated the Terms of Service warnings, even when the violations involved potentially underage performers.

R397 the BBC is claiming it was because of their big expose that was about to come out in a few days on an OnlyFans moderator manual they had obtained that showed that things like the amount of money an account makes were taken into consideration for how strictly to enforce the rules against illegal or invalid content or behavior. They had called OnlyFans for comment on the story I think the day before they announced this obviously rushed move.

OnlyFans SEEMS like they are doing it because they were worried about getting Pornhubbed by Visa and Mastercard. Plus there had been signs the company was wanting to move in that direction for a year now.

I don't think that is the only reason though. Something doesn't quite add up because it seems like an overreaction. That's why I think there is another reason we have yet to learn, the TRUE reason they really made the move. Although I'm sure all of the above were factors weighing on it.

R398 "well established" = part of the hit piece the BBC was doing on them that all came to a head this week.

If it's "well established" before that then perhaps you have another source you can link.

r399 What do you think about the theories that some in political and business circles were concerned that some people making significantly more money through onlyfans than ordinary jobs was undermining and threatening to capitalism and its future?

Here's a rundown on the NEW new policies from Mastercard specifically that go in effect October 15th (separate from the April policies)

Comment on the above - I think this part isn't correct:

"The requirement of updating identification on scenes filmed in the past means that once a performer’s identification on file expires, the entire scene or film they appeared in must be removed."

I didn't read the new rules that way. I think it depends on how they are interpreted by the platform.

OnlyFans started requiring consent forms and ID for each model in a video or photo fairly recently. Pornhub has been requiring it for several years.

The laws that she is talking about in the article above are around 2257 forms and identification requirement. What Mastercard (and Visa before them) are doing is several steps beyond the actual law. They can get away with this because of their monopoly positions.

Really Congress needs to update the law and take it out of Visa and Mastercard's hands, but I wouldn't trust them to do much better.

R401 I think that it's a conspiracy theory with no real connection to reality. The amount of people on OnlyFans and similar sites are still a tiny, tiny percentage of the labor market.

Besides, it's been established where the pressure is coming from. It's from both the right and the left, under their new buzzphrase of "sex trafficking" and child ezploitation, as well as "activist" investors.

R390 OF absolutely required verification. With two different forms of ID

For the owner of the page r405, but not for their scene partners. They aren’t set up to keep meticulous records which not only include age verification but model releases.

R401 Only a handful made six figures. And most of them did simply because they were first to the market before it became saturated. In fact most of these whores were struggling to make bank on OF yet despite that still chose to continue being a whore rather than go back into retail/service jobs or even migrate to studio porn.

Homemade porn is destroying capitalism?!

lolz

R406 they started requiring it for scene partners earlier this year. Everyone was complaining at the time that they had to remove a lot of content because they hadn't been keeping proper records. The post at r390, however, says that OF didn't require id verification for performers at all, which is incorrect because they did and do.

[quote]And most of them did simply because they were first to the market before it became saturated.

The celebrities that got on it made quite a bit, even though they came in later.

Bella Thorne made 1 million her first day by the end of her first week she had made 2 million.

Rapper Tyga made 7.9 million over the course of a year.

Cardi B made $10 million a month.

On average, apparently, people made about $180 a month which isn't much at all.

Essentially, about 34 percent of the users make a lot of money on the platform. The rest simply don't. The trick has always been to be there early OR have a large following somewhere else that you can shuffle on over to the platform. It's like getting a lit manager. They only want you if you have a huge following already.

I do know a few people who were in their top percentage of earners and most of them cleared 10K a month BUT they all had huge followings elsewhere already. Your average person, as everyone knows, just can't jump on it and expect to make cash.

[quote]They've made a lot of money by having hyper-promiscuous unprotected sex and believe that this makes them hardworking entreprenteurs—entirely dependent on one streaming service, and when it changed its business model, all these people are acting like their natural rights to rake in cash from the public by fucking strangers is being taken away.

They work in the sex industry. Of course they are pissed when their place of work and their income is threatened. Nothing to do with how they make the money or whether they enjoy creating that content or not.

Save the holes!!!

The online payment service which will stand up to the "sex trafficking" accusations and keep making business with the porn industry will make a mint. It just must have its HQs somewhere where politicians aren't in the pocket of anti sex crusaders. Like, the Netherlands.

I think it's interesting that posters still argue about sex being the problem when this is purely a business related issue. Commercial sex is bad for the credit card companies' image. And, for whatever reason, they care about their image more than making billions and billions off of the sex industry at this point.

The issue isn't finding a new site where the content creators can charge for their porn related content. It's finding a service that is willing to bring the money, customers or fans are willing to pay, to the content creators. Apparently, cryptocurrency is currently the way to go.

r410 I know some are understandably sceptical of or even poo pooing the capitalism concern theory as being behind this change by Onlyfans if only a partial cause. But 34% of people making a real good living to the tune of 10,000 a month sounds to me to be a big enough effect to have a at least a distorting effect on the labour market. At least to an extent it could maybe cause concern to some?

R413 most of the legal prostitutes in the Netherlands red light district were brought in from other countries and sex trafficking is a big problem there.

R415, I went back and double-checked. The numbers are hugely different everywhere and some people have misinterpreted information. So let me correct it based on what I've found or rather what was printed two days ago by several outlets. I was wrong.

Onlyfans claims they have 2 million content creators. (130 million users.) 1% of Onlyfans creators make 33% of all the money on onlyfans. So that's 20,000 people. 10% of their users make 73% of the money on onlyfans. If you make over 10K a month then Onlyfans considers you a "Top User" in the 1% and up but this changes depending on how much everyone else made. (It doesn't change by much these days.)

To put it more concretely:

For one woman, when she was in the top 10% she made 2K that *week.* Then at 1% she made 8K a week. Then at .09% she made 15K a week. This is all give or take a thousand or so because their Top designations are based upon the percentage of all users at that time. It also fluctuates based upon how much people are charging in general. This is thrown off even further thanks to merchandising and private messaging and videos outside of the platform.

However, there's a STEEP dropoff outside of 10%. So on July 21, 2021 if you were in the top 20% you made about 300.00 a month. So 80% of their users were making that based on a figure of 2 million creators so that that's 1,600,000 (worldwide) users not cracking 20%. The average is likely right and the same everywhere even if the other numbers vary. It's still $180.00 a month.

I guess people on Twitter are losing their minds over it because most of them make up that 20,000. Those are likely the users who already had a following from Twitter to bring to the platform because they were already "internet" people. Their voices are the loudest since they have the most followers to like and RT what they said.

Just goes to show, whores should never put their eggs (or wares) in the same basket. Relying too much on any one platform is a recipe for disaster.

r417 Thank you for the details and explanation and clarifying of the statistics. It is appreciated.

R417 You have really put a lot of thought into OnlyFans, huh?

r420 r417's reply is likely nothing compared to what the other websites are doing right now trying to figure out how to capture the audience, offer them similar money making opportunities and make money themselves. It goes way beyond sluts showing their holes. This is a case study of this new wave of online subscription services and how they work. Id be interested to see how a flat rate subscription service would work, like users paying $15 a month for all the content they could consume on a platform.

[quote] So 80% of their users were making that based on a figure of 2 million creators so that that's 1,600,000 (worldwide) users not cracking 20%. The average is likely right and the same everywhere even if the other numbers vary. It's still $180.00 a month.

This average overlooks the likelihood that a lot of people who make accounts probably never use them at all. I have a bad habit of doing this—I have blogs I never post to, a YouTube account I've posted a few random videos to over the years, a Patreon account I never used, a podcast account I never used. I would guess the majority of OnlyFans accounts are basically inactive, probably started by lazy people who thought it might be fun and lucrative and then either never used them or else did the bare minimum before determining they hadn't struck gold and moved on.

Good let these entitled whores do actual sex work with their clients then just posting shit online and ignoring real time sessions.

[Quote] Are they trying to push all adult sites to crypto?

This is what I think is really crazy about all of this. If the adult entertainment industry and sex workers are forced to ditch the dollar and start trading in crypto currencies, that's actually really bad for the US government.

It would see those crypto currencies significantly rise in value, in comparison to the US dollar, which is already under heavy inflation pressure.

It would allow for trading to occur in a secure method where they can underreport or even refuse to report their income to the IRS, which would cut government revenue significantly.

It would also allow people to start trading with countries and individuals who are under heavy US sanctions, such as Iran and Cuba, which would weaken and even destroy the effect of them in terms of pursuing US diplomatic policy.

I think, push come to shove, despite this being an edict of big business to try to force these people back into the labor market, that the US government is going to have to step in here and find a way to regulate this themselves. Too many ways this can blow up in its face if left to the whims of Visa and Mastercard alone.

[quote] So many gay men are obsessed with porn to the detriment of their own sex lives.

And that is none of your business.

I love seeing pretty people in distress.

So the big booty sluts I follow will soon only spread their cheeks for cryptocoins? This can't be life!

This goes into more detail about it. Basically OnlyFans refused to comply with ID requirements.

I’m worried about Andrew Neighbors. How will he pay for that brand new kitchen?

So much about sex for profit is hypocritical. Companies like Marriott (conservative Mormons!) and AT&T make millions off of porn over pay-per view.

Let’s see those OnlyFans whores actually have sex with their fans for once!!!

R415 No, it wouldn't have a big enough effect. They have, as a high estimate, maybe a million performers on OnlyFans. The average takehome is $180 a month. 1% of the performers make 33% of the money. Which leaves maybe a third to half of the performers who are making a living wage.

I know the conspiracy theory sounds good because Evil Giant Corporations are Evil, but it doesn't make logical sense if you look at the numbers. For most of OF performers it's a way to augment their existing income from a standard job.

^ That's worldwide performers, too.

Also note the US labor market is around 164 million people, which means OnlyFans accounts for less than half a percent of that market.

R414 cryptocurrency has a myriad of issues with it. Not to mention that it’s used mostly for criminal activity already. Which means trafficking, revenge,non consensual, and child porn will be far easier to sell than it already is.

R307's provincial attitude is neither novel nor groundbreaking, and his rant offers little depth representing great analysis. It's the same rationale we've heard since man scrawled stick figures on the wall of the cave with the platitude clearly expressed: It's great when I need to get off; otherwise, bad people doing bad things, and [italic]it shouldn't be allowed [/italic] . Won't somebody think of the children? At least until I get horny and have 5 minutes to rub one out, right R307?

[quote] but it won't lay a foundation for a solid future

Are you talking about porn, or are you talking about getting an education? As we've seen and heard (ad infinitum), there's not much a young person can do today to build a foundation for a solid future, whether it's porn or rack up hundreds of thousands of dollars in student loan debt, and there are literally millions of people in their 20s and 30s who would argue the point (and begging for loan forgiveness). No, these are not equivalent activities for anybody, young or old, and if I had a child who had reached the age of majority and wanted to go into adult work, I would discourage them not because of the inherent risks and rewards of it, but because people like R307 — not to single R307 out as unique or even an outlier — are happy to watch porn (better yet, for free so that it makes the situation even more degrading! Who wants their work to be valued so little that stealing it is actually praised?) and then judge the people who make it as inferior, damaged, and doomed to failure. Sounds an awful lot like a self-fulfilling prophesy.

I think the saddest point R307 made was

[quote]Porn used to be a place where troubled people with emotional damage go to act out from their traumas

as though this armchair psychiatry has any basis in fact or reality. Yes, there are fucked-up people who make porn. There are also fucked-up people who go into medicine, become lawyers, accountants, teachers, plumbers and bus drivers. I cull this list because I personally know people in each of these disciplines who have also made porn, and to a person have expressed greater laments about their non-adult work than their appearance(s) in porn. The teacher friend summed it up best when he said (no quotation marks as I'm paraphrasing) like teaching high school English is such an honorable profession... you can tell by the way I'm highly paid, my judgment respected, and don't have to deal with the worst society has to offer.

The sex industry will never cease to exist. The attempts to demonetize it will just push cryptocurrency in a more semi-mainstream position where porn enthusiasts will join that crypto market to satisfy their demand for regular porn that's pushed to join the cryptocurrency business because of credit card companies refusing to do business with the sex industry in general.

And yeah, porn enthusiasts will go to great lengths to get their fix for new content. And all the anti sex activists have accomplished is making the Deep or Dark Web more mainstream by pushing the mainstream sex industry to join.

Crypto is too hard to use for routine transactions though, and too volatile. It's not like Joe User can easily transfer money from their bank account into a crypto account and then

And new rules around crypto mean that in order to use it within the existing platforms like Coinbase etc, you have to provide ID and other things like you would for a bank account, which makes a big hurdle for most people.

Additionally, the crypto market is way too fragmented.

Gay Porn Whore: "Shut Up, Gays!"

[quote] Crypto is too hard to use for routine transactions though, and too volatile.

You think porn consumers care about such details? They will treat crypto like cam tokens.

[quote]And new rules around crypto mean that in order to use it within the existing platforms like Coinbase etc, you have to provide ID and other things like you would for a bank account, which makes a big hurdle for most people.

Coinbase makes it easy. Paypal, Venmo and other companies are integrating Crypto into their everyday transactional abilities.

Onlyfans already asks for your Photo ID or License (or Passport.) They also ask for your W-9 information and you need to connect a bank account.

Charles Dera:

R440 what happens when the value changes up on the fly? $5 one day will have less buying power the next day or month or week. Now imagine that fluctuating.

More reasons why crypto is a bad idea and everyone suggesting it is just copy pasta the whole crypto internet circlejerk

[quote]what happens when the value changes up on the fly? $5 one day will have less buying power the next day or month or week. Now imagine that fluctuating.

R442, The industry would have to decide on a Stablecoin tied to the USD. Tether is an obvious option. It has been around since 2014 but most people don't know about it because you can't get rich off of it. They could also go with something that's more stable than Bitcoin and well known like Ethereum.

Pornhub ONLY accepts ACH payments or Crypto these days post credit card company purge. So it's not like this hasn't been done before because of this issue.

Pornhub accepts Verge, Tron, Bitcoin, Ethereum, etc. To address volatility they also take and pay in Tether where it's pretty much $1 = 1 USDT (the abb for tether) all the time.

You do realize Tether is a scam right? That subreddit linked above as LOTS of thread talking about tether if you need to read up on it.

R439 sure if they could figure out how to use it in the first place.

R440 that's great but PayPal doesn't allow porn transactions. You can get away with small amounts here and there but PayPal abides by the Visa/MC rules even if you aren't using them.

(also Venmo is owned by PayPal)

Not that I'm expecting intelligence from a porn actor, but Josh Moore in that Trans News piece is saying that Marsha P. Johnson threw the first brick (he didn't) and that's why gay people have rights today, which is totally incorrect. I think the filler in his lips has migrated to his brain.

Crypto may not be the answer, but they need to find alternatives to credit cards already. Apart from the fact that accepting only credit cards makes adult sites too dependent on the good grace of mastercard et al., there are countries (like my home country of Germany) where credit cards are not widely used, and a lot of people can't even get one. Last year I went through the hassle of purchasing a virtual credit card, and was surprised OF actually accepted it. But they changed something about the authentication process, and I don't think it would still work.

Buying and paying with crypto was quite a hassle as well, and a few monts ago I was suddenly asked to verify my identity which pissed me off ... still better than being denied access to things like a $10/month subscription just because you don't have a fucking credit card though.

Yeah someone does! You just have to make a network like Mastercard and Visa (like Discover and American Express have). No idea what's involved but I'm assuming it's a big deal.

R445, there are a couple of lawsuits, one from 2018 and one recent one. Point is, stablecoins (beyond Tether) exist and are in use by companies. In order to deal with volatility, maybe not tether but the idea behind it. I do think Pornhub is a great example of a company that has switched to crypto nearly entirely because they can't work with Mastercard or Visa anymore.

R440, I was really speaking to how crypto is more accepted than it was a few years ago with mainstream companies integrating it into their payment systems. As such, they have to make it easy for people. I personally don't think it's hard to buy crypto but I'm not a normal person and I had someone walk me through it the first time and explain wallets and all that to me. I have an aunt who is in her 50s who does it regularly but her bank also integrated transferring USD into crypto currencies a couple of years ago.

R450, I know there's some kind of alternative system for using credit cards for medical marijuana. I believe it's more like you transfer cash from your bank account to their system and then you can use that to pay with a code at a register? I think it's called Canpay or something like that. So I'm sure something can be done and the company that comes up with it first is going to make bank.

Also, yes. I remember that. Onlyfans was weird as hell about what cards it would take for years. Something changed and then it was more accepting of a variety of cards.

I'm just mean enough to enjoy watching the OF whores scurrying around.

The drama is kind of fun to watch, but primarily because people are so over the top about it.

In October, McDonald’s employees are going to be a lot sexier than usual.

Of course, those guys who do nothing but get naked won't be affected, apparently.

[quote]Of course, those guys who do nothing but get naked won't be affected, apparently.

I don't even do that, and I get lots and lots of tips.

R457 Save your money, hunnie.

R456 what's funny is that the main reason people sub to them is because they mislead people into thinking they're going to show something good. So in order to continue that illusion they'll have to leave for another site. Hopefully one with stricter requirements against that sort of duplicitous behavior.

Any of them that stay on OnlyFans, of course, will be admitting their page is just a big cocktease.

R459 I wonder how much self-pleasure is considered a violation? Are they allowed to beat off?

[quote]Are they allowed to beat off?

No. I saw a copy of the new rules somewhere, and masturbation, "actual or simulated," is banned.

R461 So it's TikTok, (hopefully) without the music.

The OnlyFans whores should do stuff with their fans in real life like the good old fashion days. Stop posing for the camera and do actual sex work lazy whores!

HAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

r459 LOL fair point sorta!

JustForFans announced today that content creators will now keep 80% of their earnings, instead of 70%

Yeah sounds like they were getting passed over by other new sites only taking 20% instead of 30%.

That, plus being offline for almost a day due to a suspiciously-timed DDOS attack.

Will hardons still be permitted?

R468 based on Patreon, likely allowed if they aren't naked, closeup shots or the focus of the video.

The hardons have to be fully clothed?

Yes, formal wear only.

[quote]Will hardons still be permitted?

Only from the customers.

They can flex with their gym bros and having soft dicks won't be a problem.

I used to think Brandts Boys (or whatever the name is) was lame for posting their stuff on an independent website when it had an OF quality to it, but looks like they made the right move.

I think they were around before OnlyFans became big and having your own site was the primary option. Plus they didn't have to give OF 20-30%.

Well, the only OF I ever subscribed to gave me only the same material as his fully public photos—with occasionally maybe a half-inch glimpse of ballsack. I unsubscribed after a month of nuthin'.

And.. OnlyFans reverses their decision.

Guess the fallout from the BBC article wasn't as big as they expected.

This is an incredibly vague post.

Should there be a new thread titled with: “Whores Celebrate: OnlyFans reverse decision”?

Since they changed their mind can we get Craigslist and Tumblr to go back on their stuff as well?

I mean if it’s a litigation issue than OnlyFans will probably be slapped by the government eventually. So make that money

No offence, but I always felt people who spend money on Onlyfans have more money than sense, especially in a world where porn is ubiquitous and free. Why not give to charity and actual worthy causes?

Oh no, they're allowing porn again? Seriously? I wanted that shithole of a site to DIE so all the hot guys would move on to more user-friendly sites! Fuck Onlyfans!

r478 There are at least two already.

I hope the entitled content creator whores sue for mental distress.

Yeah, R480, let's just donate to charity and feel good about ourselves while we watch all the free porn that contributes to underpayment and exploitation of porn actors and forces many of them into prostitution!

R480 it's people's money, they can choose what to spend it on.

You may not like paying for porn, but it's similar to the Napster argument when music was being pirated - you CAN get the pirated "free" versions of porn, but some people prefer to get the more easily available, better quality version from the source.

Also, if everyone had your attitude about it, porn wouldn't be ubiquitous anymore because people wouldn't be making it if no one was buying. It's a business like any other.

A sinister and mendacious business. Also people who pay for porn deserve to be robbed.

I guess most people who pay for Onlyfans do so because they're attracted to a certain performer, or several performers, who don't do classic porn (anymore). I would have subscribed to a favorite of mine, a retired porn actor, if he hadn't deleted his profile before I had everything set up.

R480, I really would encourage people to heed your words. I first subscribed to OnlyFans during the early days of the pandemic (April 2020) and my last subscription expired a few days ago. The truth is, between subscriptions, tips, and even a few Amazon wishlist purchases, I easily spent $2,000.

I promise everyone: Even models who post every day post the same repetitive shit….and often they use the same photos they posted for free on Reddit and Twitter to lure subscribers in the first place! Also, you’ll quickly find the more prolific models like Griffin Barrows, Chris Damned, Rhyheim Shabazz, Christian Styles, Josh Moore, and others are inescapable! They show up on everyone’s feed and they quickly lose their appeal.

Don’t even get me started on the professional gay baiters like Wolverpeen, Daddy Diesel, Logan Wall, Boner5150 and others who constantly post stuff like, “Who wants to fuck this ass?” yet the rare times they post sex vids, it’s with women 🤮

I have self-esteem issues and know I’m pathetic for paying so much to see hot guys naked. However, the best stuff these models post is usually paid content that ends up on free sites within a week or two.

I don't think people should be shamed and ridiculed for paying for porn, be it onlyfans/justforfans et al. or classic studio porn. However, I'd draw the line at buying the performer's gifts, or sending money via cashapp etc. without getting anything in return. It creates an unhealthy illusion of a relationship/real friends helping each other out.

[quote] No offence, but I always felt people who spend money on Onlyfans have more money than sense, especially in a world where porn is ubiquitous and free. Why not give to charity and actual worthy causes?

People are paying for the interaction with the performer. There is also the added bonus of seeing people you would never get to see in porn doing stuff they are comfortable with. I guess if you're into hardcore shit, or don't care about the performer or their looks, then any porn will suffice.

You have a point not R489. The gift buying and tips were a bad idea, because then I’d feel bad if the gift wasn’t acknowledged.

If someone is curious, I’d encourage them to follow a few tips:

Do not subscribe to any account over $10…it’s never worth it and performers often offer steep discounts. Create a list of accounts you’re interested in subscribing to and keep an eye out (via the site or Twitter) for deals.

Don’t subscribe to porn star accounts. It’s easy to see their best work for free for one thing. Also, they tend to be the worst about setting up a camera 50ft away and splicing in POV shots.

If you subscribe to an account, never buy a video being sold for more than $5. Usually if they’re a porn star they’re trying to sell you studio content that can be easily found for free elsewhere. I subscribed to straight porn star Thomas Skoloudik (Tommy Wood), who often teases gay content. After finally breaking down and buying a 15 vid, it turned out to be a blurry, early 2000s clip he ripped from a free site. I told him off and he sent me what he claimed was $50 worth of content (unfortunately, all of it was straight).

Another saddo here. I'd pay A LOT for a custom video from my favorite performer showing what his face currently looks like (he'd have to provide proof it was taken recently though). His dick and whole? Nah, I've seen those a thousand times. If he made an onlyfans, 4myfans or whatever with just hole close-ups or other faceless stuff, I would not subscribe.

my favorite *former* performer

Those who subscribe - how many whores do you subscribe to? Seems like it adds up quickly.

I've watched pron on the net forever and have never paid a cent.

The "straight" porn star Brandon Ashton/Omar Brown ripped me off trying to see me an extra video, his "first time" with a man. After being paid, "Brandon" said that he needed $50 more because of the fee for the other man in the scene. I told him I wasn't paying more for anything, and threatened to spread the word of his selling a video for one price and then trying to gouge for more after payment was made..

Like R491's whore, Brandon/Omar then sent me a bunch of short, blurry straight and solo videos to make up for the payment.

They are ALL grifters who lie.

"SELL me an extra video"

The only bad thing about this is that the scammers on the platform are vindicated and will double down on their practices. The real whores will be justified and emboldened. Their behavior will get worse. Already see it, all these whores continue to travel all over the problem even though Summer is over and Delta is raging.

The title of this thread “WHORES MOURN” makes me laugh every time I see it.

Thanks OP.

HAHAHAHA

Please, they only announced they were canceling porn because they saw how much free publicity it got for Tumblr. Now everyone who doesn't read DataLounge knows what OnlyFans is.

R591 sure, that's totally why 🙄🙄🙄

r494 I only sub to 1 or 2 guys every other month or so. 1 is always one of my go to guys, with guaranteed good content. The other is usually someone Im not so sure about, so I take a chance and sub for one month. I have a specific type of dude that gets me off, so that greatly reduces the chances of me going crazy and spending too much.

R695 it’s because they were getting desperate

I wonder why they backtracked so quickly.Did the negative reaction REALLY surprise them?

SurvivingAngel is Defacto?

This is a win for holes everywhere

R505 I really think they were worried about getting their payment processors dropping them because of that BBC report. And who knows, if they hadn't done the dramatic original announcement, the report might have picked up steam like the New York Times piece did on Pornhub.

Also it's a badly run company. Upper management is shady and foreign so they make these rookie mistakes all the time. They especially have issues with their terms of service and uneven enforcement, far more issues than a company of their valuation should.

The difference between the original porn sites the owners used to run before buying OF and this one is that OnlyFans became a phenomenon, and therefore lots of attention was put on it. The owners aren't used to playing by the rules.

I doubt the named CEO really runs things. He seems like a figurehead for the owners. And the OF comms on Twitter are written by someone who doesn't have English as a first language, and whoever it is, is a poor choice.

They may be a billion dollar company but they are not being run like one. That would give me, if I were a potential investor, a lot more pause than the porn issue.

I know there are a lot of lazy whores who hadn't started moving their shit to a new site, and they will probably just stay where they are. But I really hope they lose a lot of business from it and are no longer the industry leader.

TBH the ones that have left already - the ones dramatically posting "I've lost 700 subscribers overnight!" - says person who has 12k followers on Twitter. Sure, you had 700 subscribers 🙄 and sure you lost that many suddenly due to the OnlyFans announcement 🙄

I have seen more obvious liars on the Twitter threads for this than even I was expecting. The majority of OF whores are not the best and brightest, and many seem to be flimflam artists and grifters (I know using that word on the DL is triggering to some, but get over it).

And I'm still just surprised at the gall of the people asking for free money and compensation for the "stress" caused by the whiplash of these announcements. And some who apparently don't know how percentages work.

In real life, many of those people seem actually dangerous - mentally unbalanced, entitled fuckwits. I wouldn't want to personally know a lot of the women I've seen posting. And it has been majority women.

The entitlement comes from the free handouts and ego stroking from fans. People gas up and give these people too much free stuff.

A friend of mine makes very little from the site, BUT he has an amazon wish list and he gets tons of stuff which he promptly sells. It's very lucrative and I'm sure his 'fans" would be very upset if they knew he gets rid of it all for the cash.

What sorts of things are on his list?

[quote] What sorts of things are on his list?

Clothes, books, computer parts, cookware, bedding, towels, dishes, DVDs, Lego, candles, and more.

Weird, normally I only see things like underwear, workout clothes, phones, XBox or Playstation, weights, the occasional computer, and then a few ridiculous items like a car or motorbike. Items that a hot straight guy who is in his twenties would want. Usually they're items mostly germane to the OnlyFans page and what the person does on it.

Why is R509 watching women porn whores' Twitters?

R511, what kind of videos does he post? What is his monthly fee?

No doubt R511's friend lists only those things that are sure to (re)sell like hotcakes.

R515 I'm not. OnlyFans has made several posts about this (We're banning porn! We support sex workers! Now we are suspending our ban!) and anyone can respond. Many of the comments are from the OnlyFans women who make up the majority of the performer userbase, and some of them post repeatedly, responding to others' comments.

And there are a surprising number of clearly unbalanced people responding. Their posts do stand out.

Boring now that the whores aren't running for cover anymore.

R214 and R218, I subscribed to that dude's profile as well (it was a cheap introductory rate, and had I continued it would have doubled the next month. While he's undeniably gorgeous, there is just something really unsexy (and sometimes creepy) about these guys filming no-heart-in-it "porn" with guys who are clearly unaroused. Also, the whole intimate interaction thing these guys try to do with their subscribers is just pandering. I'll be the first to admit that I love watching the guy work over his hole, but I don't believe for a second the guy actually wants ME to do that to him. I'd rather him just jerk off without trying to "connect" with me.

The peachyboy guy is the only well-known guy I follow. I know a few guys in my local gay community who have started them and I've followed theirs, on and off, for a while. They have all mostly ben abandoned at this point. One thing I have to say, is that once you've seen what they got, it all gets repetitive. I really only need to see a guy's dick once, or see him have sex once before the allure is entirely gone. So I get why people subscribe to them, but I really don't understand who is paying these guys month after month to see the same thing over and over.

What a truly noble soul this person is! I'm sure his subs were totally altruistic.

Will the useless hacks at onlyfans finally invest some of the money that the hard-working whores earned them back into their technical infrastructure? Will they implement up-to-date payment methods like Pornhub and JustforFans? A browse/explore function? A WORKING search function?

The current controversy aside, I wonder if most of those whores have ever tried using onlyfans as customers. Do they even realize how abysmally shitty of a website it is, that OF does NOTHING to promote their profiles, and that some performers are basically being shadow-banned by the permanently broken search function? Imo they're being ripped off - OF's competitors may take a higher percentage of performers' earnings, but they provide an infrastructure that can help boost their customer base.

R552 they've been coasting. They certainly didn't invest in customer support.

Caitlyn Jenner, the television personality and former Olympian — demanded that Mr. Elder drop out of the race after an ex-girlfriend of his said he brandished a gun at her while high on marijuana during a 2015 breakup.

OOPs, wrong post.

R524