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Who stretched the most career out of the least talent?

Let's list 'em, starting with triple threat Ann-Margret -- who couldn't act, sing, or dance

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by Anonymousreply 324January 14, 2022 10:39 PM

Cilla Black should be mentioned for UK people. She began her rerecording (basically copying) Dionne Warwick's songs not as well as her then basically somehow managed to become a permanent fixture on British television for decades. She was constantly appearing on TV talk shows to talk about how she once knew The Beatles.

Very little appeal, but a lot of steady work.

by Anonymousreply 1August 15, 2021 12:53 PM

thread closed

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by Anonymousreply 2August 15, 2021 12:57 PM

Cilla Black didn't copy Dionne Warwick. Cilla's recordings of a few Bacharach/David songs are NOTHING like Dionne's recordings. Warwick is cool and precise and perfectly wedded to the rhythms of the song. Black sings like Merman. Her voice is strong and clear and powerful. The two singers could not be more different.

by Anonymousreply 3August 15, 2021 1:04 PM

[quote]Let's list 'em, starting with triple threat Ann-Margret -- who couldn't act, sing, or dance

Glad I don't know you, OP.

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by Anonymousreply 4August 15, 2021 1:06 PM

Tim Allen. He’s exactly the same, himself, in absolutely everything.

by Anonymousreply 5August 15, 2021 1:08 PM

Britney Spears and Selena Gomez.

by Anonymousreply 6August 15, 2021 1:09 PM

Janet Jackson is definitely up there.

by Anonymousreply 7August 15, 2021 1:11 PM

Donald Trump

by Anonymousreply 8August 15, 2021 1:14 PM


by Anonymousreply 9August 15, 2021 1:16 PM

Steve Martin has gone far on a very small bag of tricks.

by Anonymousreply 10August 15, 2021 1:22 PM


by Anonymousreply 11August 15, 2021 1:22 PM

The Kardashians?

David Hasselhoff comes to mind, also. He's known all over the world and for what - one tv show?

by Anonymousreply 12August 15, 2021 1:30 PM

Marlon Brando. In his early career, it was all hormones. In his later career, he was coasting on his earlier career. But there was never a lot of depth to his acting.

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by Anonymousreply 14August 15, 2021 1:31 PM

Yes, Ann-Margret was quite awful in everything, even Bye, Bye Birdie. But she got a good publicist in the '70s and that was that.

by Anonymousreply 15August 15, 2021 1:32 PM

Marie Osmond

by Anonymousreply 16August 15, 2021 1:32 PM

Adam Sandler

by Anonymousreply 17August 15, 2021 1:33 PM

Annoying Vin Diesel

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by Anonymousreply 18August 15, 2021 1:35 PM

Joan Crawford. She had great bones and an iron will that more than compensated for any other deficiencies.

by Anonymousreply 19August 15, 2021 1:50 PM

There's a NEW GIRL in town

with a brand new smile

she was just passin' through

But if things work out she's gonna stay awhile....

Bomp Pomp Bah...

I'm going to say...Bonnie Franklin

by Anonymousreply 20August 15, 2021 1:57 PM

Kamala Harris. She dropped out of the primary without earning a single delegate, yet will soon but the most power person in the world.

by Anonymousreply 21August 15, 2021 1:59 PM

R5 I’d agree but to be fair: he never tried to do more than be himself. This could be a fun topic ! My vote : jaclyn smith (whenever i went into a kmart & was shocked her clothing line was still a thing. How? Why? Because of Charlie’s Angels?)

by Anonymousreply 22August 15, 2021 2:00 PM

Gypsy Rose Lee.

by Anonymousreply 23August 15, 2021 2:02 PM

Does Bonnie Franklin qualify? She never had much career. It's not like she kept getting cast in things once ODAAT ended.

by Anonymousreply 24August 15, 2021 2:03 PM

[quote]Janet Jackson is definitely up there.

Not further up there than Madonna!

by Anonymousreply 25August 15, 2021 2:07 PM

Zac Efron

by Anonymousreply 26August 15, 2021 2:09 PM

Clint Eastwood

Humphrey Bogart

by Anonymousreply 27August 15, 2021 2:11 PM

Isn’t Kim Kardashian’s only claim to fame a sex tape where she was urinated on by some guy? I’d say she wins the thread!

by Anonymousreply 28August 15, 2021 2:11 PM

J-Lo. She can't sing,, only Jorja Smith surpasses her in singing worthlessness, as J-Lo doesn't actually sound like she is sucking dick. She isn't a great dancer (Janet, Ciara, Missy Elliot way surpass her for flow and ingenuity and FUN) and Beyonce is a far better dancer technically). She can't harness the acting talent that she used to have, so I have to say that that was a fluke and nothing innate. She is excellent at nothing apart from keeping her name in the tabloids, no stunt being low enough, no dusty male being beneath her; vagabonds, trann* chasers, women beaters, drunkards, druggies...anything for a come up and a never will leave the public's consciousness. All that and she doesn't even come over as if she is nice and in on any joke about her. She's got Marfan's from all the stretching of her non talent.

by Anonymousreply 29August 15, 2021 2:12 PM

Mariah Carey

by Anonymousreply 30August 15, 2021 2:16 PM

At least he's Hung.

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by Anonymousreply 31August 15, 2021 2:27 PM

Chelsea Handler

by Anonymousreply 32August 15, 2021 2:28 PM

Shit, Steve Martin learned to play banjo. And not halfway. That's way more than Goop ever did.

by Anonymousreply 33August 15, 2021 3:07 PM


by Anonymousreply 34August 15, 2021 3:25 PM

Joan Collins, because she's been mediocre longer than anyone else.

by Anonymousreply 35August 15, 2021 3:35 PM

Joan was talented. EVERY gay man appreciates her Alexis.

by Anonymousreply 36August 15, 2021 3:47 PM

Sarah Jessica Parker

by Anonymousreply 37August 15, 2021 3:59 PM

R15- I liked her in Tommy (1975).

by Anonymousreply 38August 15, 2021 4:08 PM

Compare her to all the other Oscar nominess that year though, R38.

by Anonymousreply 39August 15, 2021 4:20 PM

Ladies, I have the most horses in this race!

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by Anonymousreply 40August 15, 2021 4:22 PM

Bette Davis and Barbara Stanwyck disagreed with you OP and R15.

by Anonymousreply 41August 15, 2021 4:27 PM

R31 Aw, I hadn’t seen that before but that kid is actually kind of adorable. And he’s no worse a singer than Madonna, Britney, Cardi B, Rihanna.

I’ll never forgot my sister in law telling me about the Umbrella song and then finally hearing it. I thought she was trolling me.

“Umbrella - ella - ella!” Awful.

by Anonymousreply 42August 15, 2021 4:28 PM


What a bizarre overreaction to criticizing a long-forgotten C list actress.

by Anonymousreply 43August 15, 2021 4:32 PM

Sylvester Stallone

by Anonymousreply 44August 15, 2021 4:40 PM

Well, Op is an untalented, stretched out asshole. Does that count?

by Anonymousreply 45August 15, 2021 4:47 PM

Kelly Ripa

Lisa Rinna

Valerie Cherish

by Anonymousreply 46August 15, 2021 4:51 PM

Utmost apologies, R43.

by Anonymousreply 47August 15, 2021 4:53 PM

George Clooney--has the range of iceberg lettuce Ryan Gosling--ditto Victoria Beckham--I think she has a career Jennifer Lawrence--Oscar to acting ability ratio WAY out of proportion

by Anonymousreply 48August 15, 2021 4:55 PM

I find it hilarious that there's an ancient queen who is furious at any criticism of Ann-Margret of all people.

by Anonymousreply 49August 15, 2021 5:00 PM

I find it sad that you enjoy being so snide about a talented actress who is clearly much nicer than you've ever considered being, R49. Again, Davis and Stanwyck had nothing but praise for her talent, but I imagine you also consider them to be bad actresses. See R55 in this thread:

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by Anonymousreply 50August 15, 2021 5:13 PM

Joey Heatherton

by Anonymousreply 51August 15, 2021 5:13 PM

I find it hilarious that ancient trolls are furious for being called out.

by Anonymousreply 52August 15, 2021 5:13 PM

Why is everyone here so mean?

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by Anonymousreply 53August 15, 2021 5:21 PM

R48 Clooney had a talent for sucking up to powerful people. And for name dropping his Aunt, who did have talent.

by Anonymousreply 54August 15, 2021 5:23 PM

Kathy Lee....oh Sweet Jesus I'm a Loving You Jew...Gifford

by Anonymousreply 55August 15, 2021 5:31 PM

G, one does not include the period.

by Anonymousreply 56August 15, 2021 5:37 PM

Bob Hope

by Anonymousreply 57August 15, 2021 5:40 PM

R29 she has a huge ass, which is what really mattered.

by Anonymousreply 58August 15, 2021 5:40 PM

Milton Berle

by Anonymousreply 59August 15, 2021 5:45 PM

Jane Fonda isn't totally untalented and can be compelling with very, very, strong direction, but compared to her contemporaries she is mediocre as an actress. No way would she have had her career without being Henry Fonda's daughter.

by Anonymousreply 60August 15, 2021 5:49 PM

Britney Spears by a mile!

by Anonymousreply 61August 15, 2021 6:01 PM

R59 he had a huge dick, which is what really mattered.

by Anonymousreply 62August 15, 2021 6:23 PM

Julia Roberts is famous only because of a toothy grin.

by Anonymousreply 63August 15, 2021 6:33 PM

I would disagree with you, R60. Beautiful women are a dime a dozen, but is anyone more photogenic that Jane Fonda? With that perfectly structured face, she would always find work in film, regardless of who her parents might be. Being Henry Fonda's daughter might get her screen tested, but it would never get her cast.

by Anonymousreply 64August 15, 2021 6:53 PM

She was and is gorgeous.

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by Anonymousreply 65August 15, 2021 8:43 PM

Zoey Deschanel. Don’t like her, don’t get her.

by Anonymousreply 66August 15, 2021 8:46 PM

R64 I'm not saying she wouldn't have been in movies, she just wouldn't be so prestigious. She was considered to be one of the best dramatic actresses of the 70s and got TWO Oscars in one decade. No way she would have gotten those kinds of roles by just being a model-turned-actress who wasn't the daughter of an iconic actor. She would have had a career like Lauren Hutton or Britt Ekland, maybe Anjelica Huston (daughter of an iconic director, haha) at very best.

by Anonymousreply 67August 15, 2021 8:47 PM

Ellen/ Elliott Page. Zip. Zero. Nada.

by Anonymousreply 68August 15, 2021 8:47 PM

I disagree, R67. There are plenty of actors/actresses who failed even though their parents were Hollywood icons. Jane had to walk through that door once it was opened for her, and she walked the walk far better than most. Christina Crawford wasn't ever going to be cast in Klute.

by Anonymousreply 69August 15, 2021 9:04 PM

Jane Fonda was no more important to the 1970s than Faye Dunaway. It would be easy to conclude that Dunaway had the more important career and the most important films.

And Dunaway was Florida panhandle white trash. She came from less than nothing. She has one less Oscar than Jane Fonda, but who cares?

by Anonymousreply 70August 15, 2021 9:05 PM

Does least mean none? Asking for a friend.

by Anonymousreply 71August 15, 2021 9:07 PM

R70, Dunaway had Bonnie and Clyde, Chinatown, Network, Barfly and a few camp classics. That doesn't measure up to Fonda's career.

by Anonymousreply 72August 15, 2021 9:12 PM

Faye was a much better actress but much harder to deal with. Jane, like I said, is compelling with a good director (Klute, They Shoot Horses) but falls flat otherwise - she got more notoriety for her woo-woo activism and later exercise empire when socialism stopped being the trend of the moment. Out of every other BA nominee within a decade of her age in the 70s, I would also say Vanessa Redgrave, Glenda Jackson, Julie Christie, Liv Ullman, Ellen Burstyn, Maggie Smith, and Shirley MacLaine are much better overall than her.

by Anonymousreply 73August 15, 2021 9:18 PM

William Shatner. Although he was actually decent in his "The Twilight Zone" episodes. Everything after that...no.

by Anonymousreply 74August 15, 2021 9:21 PM

I somewhat disagree again, R73. To me Dunaway is not in the same league as the other actresses you've listed. Fonda also did a great job in Coming Home, The China Syndrome, The Morning After, All Together, Youth and several other films.

by Anonymousreply 75August 15, 2021 9:41 PM

If Dunaway had only done Bonne and Clyde and then Network, her career would be more important to the 70s than any of the other actress mentioned above. Those films and her work in them are inseparable from that moment in film history.

by Anonymousreply 76August 15, 2021 9:47 PM

Stallone actually wrote the Rocky script, R44. Won some Oscars? Yes, it probably hasn't aged well, and the rest has been utter shite, but just saying....

by Anonymousreply 77August 15, 2021 9:52 PM

La La Land!

by Anonymousreply 78August 15, 2021 9:53 PM

[quote]Black sings like Merman. Her voice is strong and clear and powerful.

And GRATING. Black and Merman are best in small doses.

by Anonymousreply 79August 15, 2021 10:02 PM

Cilla is fabulous. Sung live.

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by Anonymousreply 80August 15, 2021 10:07 PM

^ Cilla had her own sound, for sure. I prefer Sheridan Smith, who portrayed Cilla in the ITV miniseries and did her own singing. Sheridan has more range.

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by Anonymousreply 81August 15, 2021 10:25 PM

Madonna owns this thread

by Anonymousreply 82August 15, 2021 10:49 PM

Today, it looks like Joe Biden is that person.

by Anonymousreply 83August 15, 2021 11:00 PM

I agree R1, Cilla Black, terrible singer. I think Madonna has made some talent go a long long way.

by Anonymousreply 84August 15, 2021 11:07 PM

[quote]Stallone actually wrote the Rocky script, [R44]. Won some Oscars? Yes, it probably hasn't aged well, and the rest has been utter shite, but just saying....

Yeah, I agree with R77, I don’t know if Stallone belongs on this list. He wrote the Oscar nominated script for Rocky and while he isn’t a great actor he earned two Oscar nominations for playing dumb so well.

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by Anonymousreply 85August 15, 2021 11:08 PM

Arnold Schwarzenegger comes to mind.

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by Anonymousreply 86August 15, 2021 11:10 PM

Yeah, Arnie was pretty crap when he had a lot of lines, like in Kindergarten Cop. But he worked hard for his body.

by Anonymousreply 87August 15, 2021 11:46 PM

Beanie Feldstein is about to own this thread.

by Anonymousreply 88August 15, 2021 11:49 PM

Fonda's chronic tight jaw gave her little vocal range. I find her hard to listen to. Plus all her characters sound alike. Too inflexible to ever be a great.

by Anonymousreply 89August 16, 2021 12:28 AM

Mindy Kaling and Beanie Feldstein in today's world.

by Anonymousreply 90August 16, 2021 12:36 AM

Ann-Margret was a credible Blanche Dubois. She doesn't belong anywhere on this list.

by Anonymousreply 91August 16, 2021 3:55 AM

I nominate the writer of some of the most insipid songs of the 1970s, the Pompatus of Love himself, Mr. Steve Miller.

by Anonymousreply 92August 16, 2021 4:00 AM

Lois Chiles owns this thread.

by Anonymousreply 93August 16, 2021 4:06 AM

The worst wretch on the thread:

Well, Op is an untalented, stretched out asshole. Does that count?

I find it hilarious that ancient trolls are furious for being called out.

Why is everyone here so mean?

She was and is gorgeous.

by Anonymousreply 94August 16, 2021 4:06 AM

R91, I like Ann-Margret very much, but she was TERRIBLE as Blanche. It such a misguided production, but she deserves most of the blame. Blanche is a highly theatrical creature, prone to extravagant gestures, but A-M played her as an energy-free somnambulist.

by Anonymousreply 95August 16, 2021 4:06 AM

Whatever you say, R95.

Tennessee Williams liked her performance very much.

by Anonymousreply 96August 16, 2021 4:22 AM

[quote]Blanche is a highly theatrical creature...

Hardly. Vivien Leigh gave a highly theatrical performance. You have confused the two things.

by Anonymousreply 97August 16, 2021 4:24 AM

R96, Williams had spent the previous decade in decline and was happy his work was being produced. Ann-Margret was a dreary Blanche. I'm not convinced she understood the text.

by Anonymousreply 98August 16, 2021 6:36 AM

R97, wrong. I've read the play a couple of times and seen at least six productions. Blanche even says she doesn't want realism, she wants magic. That's the proper way for her to be played. Leigh was magnificent. A-M was...not.

by Anonymousreply 99August 16, 2021 6:38 AM

Rebel Wilson for me. Unfunny, one note, flat. Now that she’s lost the weight, she doesn’t really have a thing to lead with!

by Anonymousreply 100August 16, 2021 7:00 AM

R77 r85 I recall reading a Stallone interview in which he said that he wasn't the most talented guy, or the smartest, or the best looking, but that he knew how to "make a lot out of a little. " That was why I mentioned him in this thread.

by Anonymousreply 101August 16, 2021 7:05 AM

R101 = r44

by Anonymousreply 102August 16, 2021 7:10 AM




by Anonymousreply 103August 16, 2021 7:10 AM

Debra Messing

by Anonymousreply 104August 16, 2021 7:12 AM

Demi Moore is always my answer to this question. Kept her career going (and going$ on attitude, PR stunts, “power marriages” and plastic surgery. Everything but talent.

by Anonymousreply 105August 16, 2021 7:26 AM

At least Madonna was inventive in making what she had go a long way.

Janet was just plain nepotism.

by Anonymousreply 106August 16, 2021 8:22 AM

Andy Cohen.

by Anonymousreply 107August 16, 2021 9:17 AM

Chevy Chase

by Anonymousreply 108August 16, 2021 10:19 AM

J. Lo owns this thread.

by Anonymousreply 109August 16, 2021 10:24 AM

R109 Not so fast, amigo.

by Anonymousreply 110August 16, 2021 10:52 AM

We'll have to wait and see if Jennifer Hudson wins a second Oscar.

by Anonymousreply 111August 16, 2021 10:59 AM

For those who are calling Jane Fonda beautiful, I don't see it. Great body, wonderful packaging, but facially she looks like her father with a wig on.

by Anonymousreply 112August 16, 2021 11:02 AM

[R1], what came as somewhat of a shock to me was to discover how awful Cilla's reputation in the UK was! She was despised by just about everybody who worked with her. I mean, there's just a little aspersion, then there's the Sainsbury Supersized I Hate You package.

by Anonymousreply 113August 16, 2021 12:10 PM

It's an interview with Cilla Black in which she's spectacularly cunty.

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by Anonymousreply 114August 16, 2021 12:13 PM

Completely disagree with all the Ann-Margret insults.

by Anonymousreply 115August 16, 2021 12:48 PM

Fair enough. R101. I kind of just with Sly would go away though. Speaking of that, I would also put Snoop on here. I guess he has some talent, but his neverending omnipresence is notable.

by Anonymousreply 116August 16, 2021 12:50 PM

Mart Damon.

by Anonymousreply 117August 16, 2021 1:28 PM

Yeah Ann-Margret was a real cluster fuck

by Anonymousreply 118August 16, 2021 1:40 PM

If she had simply had Sandra Dee or someone's career it would've been okay. But she was really being heralded as for very mediocre work for a while in the late '70s and '80s.

by Anonymousreply 119August 16, 2021 1:46 PM

Michelle Phillips

by Anonymousreply 120August 16, 2021 2:04 PM

Bob Dylan,

by Anonymousreply 121August 16, 2021 2:05 PM


by Anonymousreply 122August 16, 2021 2:08 PM

Paris Hilton

by Anonymousreply 123August 16, 2021 2:11 PM

Ann-Margret's career blessing was that she was able to stay in the business and get experience, so that in her maturity she was much better and rather good in many outings.

by Anonymousreply 124August 16, 2021 2:27 PM

Oh but we are not allowed to question Bob, R121. He is the chief cultural phenomenon of the Boomerverse, and definitely is not a plagiarist or the worst active live performer.

by Anonymousreply 125August 16, 2021 2:45 PM

Ann-Margret wasn't really good in her later career, she was just taking more serious roles. The shock of her career renaissance overshadowed any discussion about whether or not her Blanche DuBois was actually any good (it wasn't).

by Anonymousreply 126August 16, 2021 2:47 PM

Taylor Swift

She's been peddling the exact same "lovestruck teen" formula for 15 years. Yet every time she releases anything her legion of fans still show up in droves.

by Anonymousreply 127August 16, 2021 2:50 PM

R114, do you mean Cilla, who is no more than borderline cunty in that interview, or the back-stabbing, two-faced, venomous, smiler-with-a-knife reporter, who is a cunt of Grand Canyon proportions?

by Anonymousreply 128August 16, 2021 2:52 PM

Madonna. Oh and also Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, Madonna, and GRANDMADONNA.

by Anonymousreply 129August 16, 2021 2:54 PM

John Travolta. To this day, he better be satisfying Quentin Tarantino's foot fetish for giving him his Pulp Fiction role. Adam Levine comes to mind too.

by Anonymousreply 130August 16, 2021 3:43 PM

Travolta can dance well though, which is more than you can say for a lot of people.

by Anonymousreply 131August 16, 2021 4:01 PM

There are plenty of actors who had one big Oscar-grabbing role then managed to get a couple of filler noms after it.

Jessica Lange comes to mind. Still working but never really much of an actress.

by Anonymousreply 132August 16, 2021 5:09 PM

George Clooney, hands down. Why his career didn't end after that stinker, Batman and Robin, I'll never know. He was as dull as a potato and had all the oomph of a Yugo as a superhero.

He didn't even have any kind of charisma to be Bruce Wayne, let alone a believable Batman. He was awful on ER. I don't get it at all. We're supposed to swoon over this guy?

by Anonymousreply 133August 16, 2021 5:14 PM

Gay men have never gotten George Clooney. He was always a frau obsession.

by Anonymousreply 134August 16, 2021 5:16 PM

I'm always amazed at those people who had one hit song forty or so years ago who still manage to get a TV interview talking about it.

by Anonymousreply 135August 16, 2021 5:17 PM

Joey Lawrence is still working steadily.

by Anonymousreply 136August 16, 2021 5:18 PM

Bernadette Peters

by Anonymousreply 137August 16, 2021 5:25 PM

Dame Judi Dench. Our Lady of the Flared Nostrils Acting School graduate.

by Anonymousreply 138August 16, 2021 5:32 PM

Justin Bieber

Every time I think his career has just about ended, he gets another #1 song.

by Anonymousreply 139August 16, 2021 5:45 PM

Wrong about Ann-Margret as an actress. See Carnal Knowledge. As for singers with the latest version of autotune anyone with a voice can be made to sound like Marni Nixon.

by Anonymousreply 140August 16, 2021 5:53 PM

[quote]Wrong about Ann-Margret as an actress. See Carnal Knowledge.

Yeah. We've seen it. We don't think she's good.

by Anonymousreply 141August 16, 2021 5:55 PM

Ellen DeGeneres did pretty well. She's made a fortune from that talk show. I never found her funny. She was lucky to be able to parlay her limited awkward shtick into a six-season sitcom and then go on to have a talk show for twenty years, especially if what we read about her is true.

by Anonymousreply 142August 16, 2021 5:59 PM

Zsa Zsa Gabor owns this thread.

No one has come close to pulling off the career she did. All based on presence.

by Anonymousreply 143August 16, 2021 6:02 PM


Arthur Laurents has the dish.

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by Anonymousreply 144August 16, 2021 6:43 PM

There’s an unhinged Ann-Margret troll who seems incapable of grasping that people disagree that she is the second coming of Christ.

by Anonymousreply 145August 16, 2021 6:52 PM

Nicolas Cage.

by Anonymousreply 146August 16, 2021 6:58 PM

The Ann-Margret troll is R145. The very definition of TROLL.

by Anonymousreply 147August 16, 2021 6:59 PM

Lisa Loeb also belongs on this list. I have a friend who CANNOT STAND her. And I absolutely understand why.

by Anonymousreply 148August 16, 2021 7:43 PM

John Wayne. No range, no talent. He sat on a horse. Rightwing asshole. He ignored geiger counters going wild and gave the gift of cancer to half the cast and crew of The Conqueror., a shitty movie with his shitty performance. How very Covid/Republican of him.

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by Anonymousreply 149August 16, 2021 7:56 PM

[quote] Janet was just plain nepotism.

Get real, Vadgebot. If it was just nepotism keeping her career afloat, then LaToya and Tito could’ve easily done what she did and made just as much bank. They didn’t and Janet did.

by Anonymousreply 150August 16, 2021 8:10 PM

R145: OP talks about her like she’s Britney fucking Spears. Could Britney have pulled off Bye Bye Birdie, Viva Las Vegas, Carnal Knowledge, Tommy, or Grumpy Old Men? And she was SO much better than that godawful Julie Andrews in that AIDS TV movie they made together in the 1990s.

Britney couldn’t even pull off that stupid Crossroads movie.

by Anonymousreply 151August 16, 2021 8:14 PM

R137 I actually agree with that one. Not that she doesn’t have some talent but why is she even famous really and what has been holding up her career for so long?

by Anonymousreply 152August 16, 2021 8:19 PM

Annie, Animaniacs, and Anastasia are what Bernie is best known for among people born in the 1980s or later.

by Anonymousreply 153August 16, 2021 8:22 PM

Ryan Seacrest.

by Anonymousreply 154August 16, 2021 8:24 PM

Was Peter Fonda a bigger nepotism case than Jane Fonda? I've only seen two of his movies (Easy Rider and The Limey). The entire time he was on screen I kept thinking "ugly ugly face". Was he considered sexy back in the day?

by Anonymousreply 155August 16, 2021 8:33 PM

Bernie can belt out a tune and is very funny.

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by Anonymousreply 156August 16, 2021 8:48 PM

R28- I don't think Ray-J peed on her.

by Anonymousreply 157August 16, 2021 9:42 PM

Ann-Margret created a character in that AIDS movie. Julie Andrews just played herself like she always does in everything.

It also explains how Hugh Grant got caught with Divine brown.

by Anonymousreply 158August 16, 2021 9:51 PM

R158? What movie? What does that explain about Hugh/Divine?

by Anonymousreply 159August 16, 2021 9:57 PM

R152 She was with Steve Martin when her career started to take off, starred in The Jerk with him. Plus she's good looking with a nice body.

by Anonymousreply 160August 16, 2021 11:42 PM

My dad had the hots for Bernadette in the late '70s.

by Anonymousreply 161August 17, 2021 1:59 AM


by Anonymousreply 162August 17, 2021 2:02 AM

Here, R159:

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by Anonymousreply 163August 17, 2021 2:03 AM

Madonna, of course. Mediocre at best in all things: singing, dancing, acting. Because a star through sheer ambition and determination, which I guess in a way is an achievement.

by Anonymousreply 164August 17, 2021 2:06 AM

Star through cultural appropriation.

by Anonymousreply 165August 17, 2021 2:10 AM

She's a ho who is also her own pimp.

by Anonymousreply 166August 17, 2021 2:11 AM

I don't believe in cultural appropriation.

by Anonymousreply 167August 17, 2021 3:22 AM

When she appropriated it, it ceased to be culture.

by Anonymousreply 168August 17, 2021 3:23 AM

R160 yeah I know all that, but she also had things like...when I would see reruns of The Carol Burnett Show she guest starred several times. What credits did she have in the mid-70s to merit that? Do you know what I mean! She always just seemed someone who was “famous for being famous” - before that was even really a thing like it is today.

by Anonymousreply 169August 17, 2021 3:29 AM

I mean, I don't believe cultural appropriation happens. All good cultures accept each other.

The dead ones hate the live ones.

by Anonymousreply 170August 17, 2021 3:34 AM

R161, was it the hair?

by Anonymousreply 171August 17, 2021 3:34 AM

Courtney Love. No talent, except for glomming onto people who really do have talent and getting whatever she can out of them.

Lena Dunham. Fat, talentless pig. How did this gross creature become a celebrity?

by Anonymousreply 172August 17, 2021 3:35 AM

Justine Timberlake

by Anonymousreply 173August 17, 2021 3:39 AM

R152, what's name is Stephen Sondheim.

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by Anonymousreply 174August 17, 2021 6:58 AM

Keanu Reeves although he was perfect for Speed and John Wick, neither required heavy lifting.

by Anonymousreply 175August 17, 2021 7:01 AM

Ann Margret couldn't sing or dance either. Her 'dancing' was really one of two jerky moves that seemed daring for the early '60s and that was it. She wasn't doing anything like what Cyd Charisse or Vera Ellen were doing a decade earlier.

by Anonymousreply 176August 17, 2021 8:08 AM

Janet might've gotten the only other lasting Jackson family solo career because she was the only one who had any social skills. All the rest come off as very strange IRL. Janet less so.

by Anonymousreply 177August 17, 2021 9:38 AM

[quote] David Hasselhoff comes to mind, also. He's known all over the world and for what - one tv show?

Four actually: [italic]The Young and the Restless, Knight Rider, Baywatch[/italic] and for some reason [italic]America's Got Talent[/italic].

by Anonymousreply 178August 17, 2021 9:51 AM

Kylie Minogue. Outside the USA she is still successful and still making albums. She can’t sing a note to save her life but has had a lengthy career. Some of her songs are good but could have been sung by anybody.

by Anonymousreply 179August 17, 2021 10:12 AM

R148 I saw a joint Lisa Loeb/Cyndi Lauper interview and Cyndi wasn’t having it how Lisa showed zero deference and was spouting off with her fucking granola mom bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 180August 17, 2021 10:34 AM


She has been so good at it that we probably should give her an Oscar.

by Anonymousreply 181August 17, 2021 10:40 AM

William Fucking Shatner—Bad actor and an asshole IRL.

Charlton Heston—Used his one facial expression in all his roles. Has anyone pryed his guns from his cold, dead hands yet? Or was he buried clinging to them? NRA spokesman when he had dementia, but would anyone have noticed the difference?

by Anonymousreply 182August 17, 2021 11:02 AM

Heston, yuck. Hilarious how everyone but him knew he was playing Messala's lover in Ben Hur. "Shhhh, don't tell Heston, he'll throw a fit."

by Anonymousreply 183August 17, 2021 11:33 AM

R179 She was touching in her brief appearance in Holy Motors and I like the song I Can't Get You Out of My Head but beyond that she is a big zero.

by Anonymousreply 184August 17, 2021 12:17 PM

I'm loving the person who thinks Viva Las Vegas is Sophie's Choice at R151.

by Anonymousreply 185August 17, 2021 12:18 PM

Daniel Radcliffe.

Diabolical child actor, acted off the screen by his co-stars, yet still gets work. Why?

by Anonymousreply 186August 17, 2021 2:43 PM

Speaking of him, JK Rowling

Wrote some mediocre children’s books and now a billionaire.

by Anonymousreply 187August 17, 2021 3:19 PM

[quote]Isn’t Kim Kardashian’s only claim to fame a sex tape where she was urinated on by some guy? I’d say she wins the thread!

And even that sex tape was boring as shit! (I'm ashamed to admit I watched it ....). IIRC, most of the time she just lay flat on her stomach and didn't even show her tits. Most porn actors have more 'talent' than she does!

by Anonymousreply 188August 17, 2021 3:34 PM

You need to ask?

by Anonymousreply 189August 17, 2021 3:37 PM

Anne Fucking "I'm the Greatest" Baxter

by Anonymousreply 190August 17, 2021 3:44 PM

If we're talking about traditional acting, singing and dancing talent, it's Marilyn Monroe.

BUT what she demonstrated (similarly to Harlow in some ways) was that "talent" in film meant more than elocution, fine acting (although when she got it right she was amazing) or perfect triple time steps down a staircase. Her "Marilyn" persona in its full development was an unstoppable magnet for the eyes and beyond, and after "Niagara" one seldom looked at anyone else for long on the screen with her in her scenes. She took the bimbo stereotype and made it an accessible American goddess.

by Anonymousreply 191August 17, 2021 3:54 PM

R12 I think Germany was quite taken with the Hoff’s musical stylings for awhile there.

by Anonymousreply 192August 17, 2021 4:03 PM

Anne Margret in BBB and VLV is stupendous. Go drown yourself OP.

She was also very good in Carnel Knowlege and that movie with Julie Andrews where her son was dying of AIDS.

by Anonymousreply 193August 17, 2021 4:05 PM

Mariska Hargitay owns this thread.

by Anonymousreply 194August 17, 2021 4:11 PM

Can't understand all the shade on poor Ann.

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by Anonymousreply 195August 17, 2021 4:21 PM

Paula Abdul

by Anonymousreply 196August 17, 2021 4:23 PM

[quote] pryed his guns

Oh, dear.

by Anonymousreply 197August 17, 2021 4:25 PM

R160, Peters was a name long before she hooked up with Martin. It was mostly television and Broadway...but then that is sort of where her career is now as well.

by Anonymousreply 198August 17, 2021 4:32 PM

Peters has been big on Broadway since the 60s and off and on in TV since the 70s. She was never much of a factor in films.

by Anonymousreply 199August 17, 2021 9:04 PM

R186 Probably because he presents hole.

by Anonymousreply 200August 18, 2021 3:46 AM

Rita Ora.

by Anonymousreply 201August 20, 2021 8:23 PM


by Anonymousreply 202August 20, 2021 8:29 PM

[quote]If we're talking about traditional acting, singing and dancing talent, it's Marilyn Monroe.

Marilyn wasn't a dancer. She was in musicals and sang, she moved to the music but didn't do any real dancing. So there's no reason to expect her to have had dancing talent.

by Anonymousreply 203August 20, 2021 8:31 PM

We're still a work in progress.

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by Anonymousreply 204August 20, 2021 8:33 PM

Kelly Monaco from GH

Gayle King

Jenna Hager Bush

Meghan McCain

Dr. Oz -- not his surgical career but his talk show/Bobby Bullshit schtick

Dr. Phil

Rachael Ray

Suzanne Somers

by Anonymousreply 205August 20, 2021 8:33 PM

Speaking of Zac Efron, I was trying to think of a forerunner to him - but there aren't many Zac Efron types who had a 15 year (and counting) movie career.

by Anonymousreply 206August 20, 2021 8:37 PM

Funny you should mention Kylie, r179. I was living in Australia in the 90s and during that decade, she was definitely not, a joke per se, but....not "cool." I wasn't there to witness her big debut as a teen in Neighbours or whatever the show was but at one point, she hooked up with Michael Hutchence (I was still in Oz) and suddenly....things changed for her. Kind of transformed like Miley Cyrus from cartoon character to a more cool performer/personality. But, yes, the talent. Never. There.

I'm mystified why anyone would buy her stuff (music).

by Anonymousreply 207August 20, 2021 8:39 PM

What's a Zac Efron type? I kid who was in musicals who became a non-musical leading man?

by Anonymousreply 208August 20, 2021 8:40 PM

Tina Turner

by Anonymousreply 209August 20, 2021 8:50 PM

Zac Efron type = male starlet, known for body over acting chops; usually plays second leads.

by Anonymousreply 210August 20, 2021 8:52 PM

[quote]R60 Jane Fonda… No way would she have had her career without being Henry Fonda's daughter.

Yeah… college educated, Ford fashion model, trained at the Actors Studio. Translation = Utter Loser.

[italic]What we’re they thinking, giving her her start?!

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by Anonymousreply 211August 20, 2021 8:58 PM

And will all that, she still tried to make herself whatever her current husband wanted.

by Anonymousreply 212August 20, 2021 9:00 PM

*with all that

by Anonymousreply 213August 20, 2021 9:00 PM

Henry Fonda had the talent, Jane was a pretty girl who had charisma, worked very hard - not a lot of deep acting talent, really.

by Anonymousreply 214August 20, 2021 9:30 PM

I saw Jane Fonda on Broadway about 10 years ago in "33 Variations." She gave a star performance and commanded the stage every moment she was on it. I expected that I would discover an actress who was too old and out of shape to do 8 a week on Broadway, but who cranked out a few nice moments. That's not what I got. She proved herself to be an entirely stage-worthy leading lady.

Brava, Jane.

by Anonymousreply 215August 20, 2021 10:54 PM

Britney Spears owns this fucking thread. She was a good dancer for like a year. She had a knee injury shooting the Sometimes video which was like her second or third song. So she can't sing AT ALL OR DANCE. And now, she really is a total vegetable whose "career"--whatever that is--seems to consist of getting endless sympathy from the public.

by Anonymousreply 216August 20, 2021 11:33 PM

The knee injury was a cover for her breast implant surgery.

by Anonymousreply 217August 20, 2021 11:50 PM

Johnny Rapid. Have you seen his hole?

by Anonymousreply 218August 20, 2021 11:51 PM

R217, she had implants? LOL.. Adding boobies to add to her talentlessness.

by Anonymousreply 219August 20, 2021 11:51 PM

Well, she has been getting clicks lately showing off the boobies, seems to be working.

by Anonymousreply 220August 21, 2021 7:18 PM

JLo owns the thread actually

by Anonymousreply 221August 21, 2021 11:13 PM

R22 Of course! Without "Charlie's Angels" we would have never heard of Jaclyn Smith.

by Anonymousreply 222August 22, 2021 9:59 AM

Oprah....she's just lucky and pretends to have empathy, albeit she's a hard worker but also makes out she's done it all by herself without her team of producers and staff.

by Anonymousreply 223August 22, 2021 10:32 AM

Pierce Brosnan has no range, just plays the same snooty English gent all the time...could he play a homeless drug-addicted trans man? I think not!

by Anonymousreply 224August 22, 2021 10:45 AM

Michael Jackson

by Anonymousreply 225August 22, 2021 10:47 AM

Rip Taylor owns this thread.

by Anonymousreply 226August 22, 2021 10:59 AM

Rip Taylor was one of the funniest men ever to walk onto a stage.

Rod Taylor, on the other hand....

by Anonymousreply 227August 22, 2021 2:19 PM

Sonny Bono: bad singer, bad husband, bad politician.

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by Anonymousreply 228August 22, 2021 4:08 PM

R228 Cher disagrees with you. And Cher is NEVER WRONG.

by Anonymousreply 229August 22, 2021 4:36 PM

[R27] Clint Eastwood directed and starred in Unforgiven, arguably the greatest movie western of all time. The film won 4 academy awards including best director and best actor.

by Anonymousreply 230August 22, 2021 4:55 PM

Kelly Osborne, who has made a career out of singing and being a talk show personality, though she sucks at both.

The apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Ozzy Osbourne would randomly sing a few notes, and his band would write an entire song and lyrics, and then Osbourne took the credit for writing the songs himself. He can't play a musical instrument, he can't write songs. But he can stumble up on stage and screech for an hour. (Because Sharon needs more money for plastic surgery.)

by Anonymousreply 231August 22, 2021 4:59 PM

Al Roker

by Anonymousreply 232August 22, 2021 6:18 PM

Barbara Walters

by Anonymousreply 233August 22, 2021 7:04 PM

Michael Strahan

by Anonymousreply 234August 22, 2021 7:20 PM

Paula Abdul and JLo. But at least Paula has a pleasant personality.

Nicki Minaj. Why does she have to be a vicious cunt to everyone? One could deal with her limited gifts if she were nice. But she goes out of her way to see how despicable she can behave towards others. She can’t sing or even dance that well.

by Anonymousreply 235August 23, 2021 3:19 AM

Simon Cowell

by Anonymousreply 236August 23, 2021 3:23 AM

Paula had talent, just not singing.

by Anonymousreply 237August 23, 2021 3:29 AM

[quote] Nicki Minaj. Why does she have to be a vicious cunt to everyone?

And she has multiple rapists in her family that she constantly defends. Nasty.

by Anonymousreply 238August 23, 2021 3:31 AM

"Christina Crawford wasn't ever going to be cast in Klute."

That's a shame. Because she knew the boys. . .and the booze.

by Anonymousreply 239August 23, 2021 4:25 AM

Tom Cruise owns this thread.

His talent alone does not explain his gargantuan career.

by Anonymousreply 240August 23, 2021 1:21 PM

Mick Jagger

by Anonymousreply 241August 23, 2021 1:24 PM

Barbara Streisand

by Anonymousreply 242August 23, 2021 7:56 PM

R4 R15 Hi - i just read a book about super agent of the 70’s Sue mengers. She rept ann margret then. Invited her to a party , sat her next to Mike Nichols & he cast her in Carnal Knowledge. Anyway. Didn’t see that movie - and maybe nothing by her (besides the video from Tommy where she rubs baked beans on her tits)

by Anonymousreply 243September 2, 2021 3:10 PM

Have a gander at her Blanche.

by Anonymousreply 244September 2, 2021 3:57 PM

me . .

by Anonymousreply 245September 2, 2021 4:03 PM

The butch one (Dorothy I think the character was called) from The Golden Girls.

by Anonymousreply 246September 2, 2021 4:05 PM

Who knows why Ann-Marget and Pamela Tiffin didn't have each others careers. Having an agent like Sue Mengers helps but chance plays an even bigger role than talent.

by Anonymousreply 247September 2, 2021 4:08 PM

Ann-Margret sizzles on screen. The camera loves her. An in Hollywood, that's a great talent to have.

by Anonymousreply 248September 2, 2021 9:07 PM

Her first screen test wasn't a revelation, though. Even AM needed some schooling.

by Anonymousreply 249September 2, 2021 9:40 PM

[quote]Her first screen test wasn't a revelation,

Oh, fer fuck's sake! Burn the woman at the stake for that, why don't you?

by Anonymousreply 250September 2, 2021 10:36 PM

[Quote] Oh, fer fuck's sake! Burn the woman at the stake for that, why don't you?

If you've seen it, you'd know what I mean. It's not as simple as the camera "loving" the subject. How the performer relates to the camera is the deciding factor. Ann-Margret had to learn that.

by Anonymousreply 251September 2, 2021 10:43 PM

She had learn something? OMG! She had to learn how to do something she was encountering for the first time.

Hollywood handed out thousands of screen tests over the years. With direction. Very few of the screen tests went anywhere for anyone. Very few stars went as far as Ann-Margret. She has had a very important film career.

That she had to learn something is irrelevant. That she was not a revelation is just absurd. Her career speaks for itself and that's all that matters.

by Anonymousreply 252September 2, 2021 10:51 PM

Oh, hush. You're worse than the Patty Duke Troll.

by Anonymousreply 253September 2, 2021 11:07 PM

Ann-Margret did a wonderful acting job in the 1983 TV movie "Who Will Love My Children?". She was nominated for an Emmy but lost out to Barbara Stanwyck for The Thorn Birds. Everyone assumed Ann would win even Barbara. Barbara even acknowledged Ann in her acceptance speech saying "Ann-Margret you were superb". Here's a clip of it at 1:54.

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by Anonymousreply 254September 2, 2021 11:46 PM

R248 ann might sizzles but you & your post also sizzles. Please write another sizzling sentance using sizzle.

by Anonymousreply 255September 3, 2021 2:21 AM

Julia Roberts owns this thread

by Anonymousreply 256September 3, 2021 10:28 PM

I think Nicholas Cage owns the thread.

by Anonymousreply 257September 4, 2021 2:42 AM

Cher. Not the best singer. Not the best actress. Not the best anything in particular, but an undeniable star.

by Anonymousreply 258September 4, 2021 3:33 AM

[quote]Ladies, I have the most horses in this race!

Speaking of nags . . .

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by Anonymousreply 259September 4, 2021 3:50 AM

[quote]Sonny Bono: bad singer, bad husband, bad politician.

And a very bad skier.

by Anonymousreply 260September 4, 2021 3:52 AM

I beg to differ

by Anonymousreply 261September 4, 2021 8:44 AM

R9 "One person who pops into my mind who she couldn’t stand was Jaclyn Smith. She always said she, “Had no face”. I still have no idea what that means."

I think I know what your mother meant to say: Jaclyn Smith had that kind of doll-like, flawless but bland beauty that appeals to the mainstream audience. Her facial expression varied only slightly if at all. Hence "Had no face".

by Anonymousreply 262September 5, 2021 7:23 AM

^^^ Sorry, wrong thread.

by Anonymousreply 263September 5, 2021 7:24 AM

[quote] sizzling sentance


by Anonymousreply 264September 5, 2021 12:00 PM

What about me?

by Anonymousreply 265September 5, 2021 4:51 PM

I'm surprised at the resilience of Nicole Kidman's career. Not an awful actress -- though she has given some awful performances (The Hours, Bombshell, haven't seen her Lucy yet) -- but she's now been a leading lady for a solid three decades.

Julia Roberts and Jennifer Aniston too...

If you had asked me in 2002 if they'd still be (reasonably) relevant in 2022 I'd have said no.

by Anonymousreply 266December 30, 2021 12:16 PM

Although a certainty it's been posted upthread, I'd have to say Madonna Louise Veronica Ciccone Penn Ritchie. A talent for PR, check. A talent for marketing, check. A talent for shocking, check. A talent for stealing the ideas of more artistic creators and distilling them to look like her own, check. A talent for humping the fuck out of a Jean-Paul Gaultier oversize red plush bed that would've sent any mortal to the ER for a fractured pelvis, check (that bed should've done a #metoo on her for the emotional pain and suffering she inflicted on it). Any more than that I'm not so sure.

by Anonymousreply 267December 30, 2021 1:30 PM

[quote] Sonny Bono: bad singer, bad husband, bad politician.

Bad singer? Well, there have been numerous singers with not great voices. Cher wasn't that great a singer. His talent was in other areas. He was a brilliant business man. He invented Sonny and Cher, and reinvented them when their careers tanked. Cher would have never had a career in anything if it hadn't been for him.

Bad husband? Well, Cher dissed him but who cares what she said? After all, she's the one who fell head over heels in love with the druggie dimwit Gregg Allman and later had a hot affair with the slimebag to end all slimebags Gene Simmons. Cher is dumb.

Bad politician? Well, he was a Republican and for some that in itself makes one a bad politician. But in reality he was no better or no worse than a great many other politicians.

by Anonymousreply 268December 30, 2021 9:12 PM

Madonna has written some great lyrics--Live to Tell, Like a Prayer, Express Yourself, Vogue, etc. Obviously, a lot of her songs have a LOT of cliches but at her very best, she has written some great lyrics.

by Anonymousreply 269December 30, 2021 9:27 PM

Ryan Seacrest’s Legal Team is closing down this thread

by Anonymousreply 270December 30, 2021 9:46 PM

Check out Cher live on Letterman singing 'Save Up All Your Tears'. Nothing more to say about her talent, I think.

by Anonymousreply 271December 31, 2021 8:43 AM

Jessica Lange — one critically praised role and that’s it

by Anonymousreply 272January 1, 2022 9:07 AM

Janet Jackson and Britney Spears.

by Anonymousreply 273January 1, 2022 9:09 AM

Halle Berry

by Anonymousreply 274January 1, 2022 9:11 AM


Still some of the best examples

by Anonymousreply 275January 1, 2022 9:14 AM

An Ann-Margret screen test was posted here last year and she was shockingly bad.

by Anonymousreply 276January 1, 2022 9:15 AM

Petty LuPony, or whatever that ghastly, vulgar Sicilian fishwife is called.

by Anonymousreply 277January 1, 2022 9:16 AM

Jennifer Lawrence and Julia Roberts are not bad actresses. Neither are super but both were supremely likable in their time. Both are very good actresses despite the DL. Just because you may not like them does not put them in this category.

by Anonymousreply 278January 1, 2022 9:18 AM

Patti has a great voice. You may not like her but you definitely see why she would be a star.

by Anonymousreply 279January 1, 2022 9:25 AM

I noted that at R266, R278.

I’m curious at Roberts’ staying power more than thinking she’s awful.

by Anonymousreply 280January 1, 2022 9:27 AM

All older woman parts go directly to Julia Roberts and Meryl Streep first. Whether she wants to play them is up to her but she is gonna get plenty of chances for that second Oscar you know she just has to have. Someone as narcissistic as Julia Roberts needs that second Oscar.

by Anonymousreply 281January 1, 2022 9:32 AM

R50, Stanwyck's "praise" of Ann-Margaret was only because she was hoping since Richard Chamberlin turned her down she could get some finger-action with the no-talent firecracker.

Davis was just out of her mind by the time she mentioned her...

by Anonymousreply 282January 1, 2022 9:32 AM

Whoever said J-Lo above WINS. No one has strung out a "career" longer than that phony and made so much money doing it.

by Anonymousreply 283January 1, 2022 9:35 AM

Most actors don't get one Oscar, the absolute nerve to think you deserve two of them.

by Anonymousreply 284January 1, 2022 9:37 AM

Jennifer Lawrence is in no way a bad actress. If you don't like her you don't like her. But she's a good actress

by Anonymousreply 285January 1, 2022 9:44 AM

Well, she’s an okay actress.

Yes, there are plenty worse than her though.

by Anonymousreply 286January 1, 2022 9:49 AM

Lana Turner

by Anonymousreply 287January 1, 2022 9:52 AM

"Sonny Bono: bad singer, bad husband, bad politician."

Bad skier.

by Anonymousreply 288January 1, 2022 9:54 AM

I love Cher and the movie Moonstruck. But Glenn Close and Holly Hunter in Broadcast News aren't even in the same acting universe with this. And I love love love Moonstruck.

by Anonymousreply 289January 1, 2022 9:59 AM

[quote] Lana Turner

Probably not a good actress but there’s nobody better suited to a campy women’s picture. Which we DLers love.

by Anonymousreply 290January 1, 2022 9:59 AM

Lupita stole Julia's second Oscar albeit for a lead performance. Fun fact, her pal Cate Blanchett won the lead Oscar for a role Julia turned down the same year. Woody went to her first for Blue Jasmine.

by Anonymousreply 291January 1, 2022 10:09 AM

[quote] Sonny Bono: bad singer, bad husband, bad politician.

R228 but he was a good song writer, and a very good one!

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by Anonymousreply 292January 1, 2022 10:21 AM

I'm sorry I love that movie but that Oscar is bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 293January 1, 2022 10:23 AM

The whole world expected Glenn Close to win.

by Anonymousreply 294January 1, 2022 10:25 AM

Kelly Ripa and Mark Consuelos. 40 years of lousy acting between them and still ABC shells out million for this idiot blonde and her gay sidekick talk show..... Also Chasten...

by Anonymousreply 295January 1, 2022 10:43 AM

Brad Pitt

by Anonymousreply 296January 1, 2022 11:45 AM

Jennifer Aniston.

by Anonymousreply 297January 1, 2022 11:46 AM

I’m glad Stanwyck won that surprise Emmy over Ann-Margret. That movie of hers was such manipulative baity bullshit I’m proud of them for not rising to it (for once).

by Anonymousreply 298January 2, 2022 9:23 AM

Chrissy Metz is a pretty amateurish actor. She really isn’t a star despite her size, she’s a star because of it.

by Anonymousreply 299January 2, 2022 10:04 AM

Chris Evert

by Anonymousreply 300January 2, 2022 10:47 AM


by Anonymousreply 301January 2, 2022 11:15 AM

It does seem like a lot of the actresses we'd have considered A-List at the start of the millenium we still consider so now.

by Anonymousreply 302January 2, 2022 11:38 AM

Everything consider Janet Jackson and Shitney spears remain the most persuasive answers.

by Anonymousreply 303January 2, 2022 9:22 PM

Monica Lewinsky

by Anonymousreply 304January 3, 2022 12:17 PM

Goop is a very good actress actually. Very skilled performances in Hard Eight, Sliding Doors, Sylvia.

by Anonymousreply 305January 3, 2022 12:32 PM

Goop was amazing in Proof. Love her as an actress.

by Anonymousreply 306January 3, 2022 12:33 PM

Yes, she’s perfectly adequate.

by Anonymousreply 307January 3, 2022 12:35 PM

I just watched Infamous for the first time and I hated Paltrow's 3 minute role as a lounge singer. The way she kept smirking while she sang drove me insane. She was so amused with herself. Very adequate singing, worse than a real lounge singer.

by Anonymousreply 308January 3, 2022 12:55 PM

The public hates her but she keeps working.

by Anonymousreply 309January 3, 2022 1:01 PM


I love Gwyneth as an actress and thinks she’s pretty damn good.

by Anonymousreply 310January 3, 2022 1:12 PM

Disagree on JLo.

She's good looking, has a certain star quality, a great dancer, and can act.

She's can't sing at all. But way more appealing than Shitney or Janet.

by Anonymousreply 311January 3, 2022 1:16 PM

Andie Macdowell and Ruby Keelet jointly own this thread.

by Anonymousreply 312January 3, 2022 1:24 PM

[quote] Andie Macdowell

She's a good one. Surprised she hadn't been mentioned yet.

by Anonymousreply 313January 3, 2022 1:27 PM

Vanna "I Press Big Letters On a Big Board" White...

by Anonymousreply 314January 5, 2022 11:19 PM

For a few years all Ann-Margret had to do was breathe.

by Anonymousreply 315January 5, 2022 11:50 PM

Esther Williams. "Wet she's a star!"

by Anonymousreply 316January 6, 2022 7:44 AM

Fuck you all, I act, I sing, and I speak Spanish perfectly!

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by Anonymousreply 317January 6, 2022 11:09 AM

Paltrow is similar to Audrey Hepburn on screen but off screen she is her polar opposite.

by Anonymousreply 318January 7, 2022 12:04 AM

Andie is outstanding in Maid. Really unexpected

by Anonymousreply 319January 7, 2022 12:07 AM

My mom who was a dancer told me that Ruby Keeler was a good dancer, it was just the style of tap she used - that has now gone out of style - which was based on clog dancing. That's why it had that heavy-footed quality.

by Anonymousreply 320January 14, 2022 3:01 PM

Efrem Zimbalist Jr

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by Anonymousreply 322January 14, 2022 3:09 PM

Jenny McCarthy

by Anonymousreply 323January 14, 2022 3:14 PM

Francis Ford Coppola. In my opinion sort of a mediocrity. Less talented than (same age, same era ) Peter Bogdanovich. But because he made The Godfather and Godfather Part II - he was forgiven many a shitty film, while Bogdanovich was ruined by directing a couple of flops - even after he came back with good films like Mask and Saint Jack, he was never given much attention, unlike the winery owner.

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