Is the Sussexes’ love affair with the Obamas over?

Intriguingly, the Obamas had a similar format to Meghan’s 40x40 initiative to personalise the weekend’s birthday party, emblazoning everything with a bespoke 44x60 logo to symbolise the 44th President’s 60th birthday.

There is also the issue of the Obamas’ loyalty to the Queen. When the couple paid a state visit to Britain in 2011, they got on famously with the monarch and her family. The only president to be offered a full state visit since George W Bush in 2003, photographs of the three-day extravaganza, which featured a lavish state banquet, showed the Obamas, the Queen and the late Duke of Edinburgh relaxed in each others’ company, and in a show of mutual respect.

So intimate was the meeting that Prince Philip, then 94, turned chauffeur to drive the Obamas to lunch at Windsor Castle in his navy blue Range Rover.

The foursome had first met during the G20 summit in 2009, when Michelle was famously photographed putting her arm around the Queen, who responded by placing a hand on the former First Lady’s waist. In her memoir, she explained that she had not been aware of “Royal protocol” and had simply reacted after the two women had agreed that a long day wearing heels had left them with sore feet.

We were just “two tired ladies oppressed by our shoes”, she wrote.

The incident certainly did not cause any friction with the sovereign, who a few years later when they visited London privately, gave Michelle and her daughters Malia and Sasha a guided tour of Buckingham Palace.

Describing how much she liked the Queen during her 2019 book tour, Michelle said: “She’s wonderfully warm. And funny. And she’s elegant and kind and considerate in really interesting ways. That kind of warmth and graciousness, and intelligence and wit. I like her.”

After the Duke of Edinburgh passed away at the age of 99 in April, President Obama’s tribute was among the most heartfelt.

So it arguably will not have gone down particularly well with a couple that have always put “family first” to see Harry and Meghan being so openly critical of their Royal relatives during their Oprah interview in March. During the 90-minute prime time tell-all, the couple accused the monarchy of failing to support them and suggested that Prince Charles and Prince William were “trapped” in The Firm. It is perhaps worth noting that the Obamas are also close to the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, who were central to the 2011 state visit, which took place just weeks after their wedding.

When the Obamas returned to the UK in 2016, they made a point of popping into Kensington Palace, when they were introduced to a then three-year-old Prince George, ready for bed in his dressing gown, before sitting down to dinner with William, Kate and Harry. Last October, the former President made a point of supporting Prince William’s newly launched Earthshot Prize, tweeting: “It’s going to take a lot of big-thinking and innovation to save the one planet we’ve got – and that’s why @KensingtonRoyal’s leadership on climate change can make a real difference.”

“The Obamas didn’t like Harry attacking his family. They value family and certainly aren’t the type of people who would want their children talking to the press,” says one insider.

But perhaps the greatest clue to the Obamas’ feelings was given by Michelle when she was asked to respond to the Duke and Duchess of Sussex’s recent outpourings on Oprah. “I just pray that there is forgiveness and there is clarity and love and resolve at some point in time because there’s nothing more important than family,” she said.

It seems that when it comes to Harry and Meghan, the former President and First Lady remain firmly of the view that blood is thicker than water.

Lol the Obamas are so shady.

First they dump Oprah, and now they dump Meghan.

I don't think the Obamas are "shady." Nothing about them seems to suggest that--having this party during COVID (when the optics were so bad for it) is to my mind the first time they've ever made a misstep publicly.

We have no idea why Oprah was not at the party, but since her girlfriend Gayle was, my guess is that Oprah was not disinvited.

They do seem to have changed their minds about Meghan and Harry, but their loyalty to the Queen (who was particularly gracious to them, and seems to have liked them more and been friendlier to them than any First Family since the Trumans when she was just a princess) is almost certainly part of that, as the story above suggests. It's also been noted that MANY celebrities have distanced themselves from the Sussexes since Megxit, including the Clooneys. Whatever you might think of them, it's clear that their post-Megxit behavior has been seen as damaging to the Queen, Prince Charles, and Prince William, all three of whom most celebrities like and respect.

This is the big mistake the Sussexes keep making: since the source of their prestige is solely determined by their connection to the Crown, the more damaging they are to the very person who wears (or the people who will wear) the Crown, the more they tarnish their own brand.

You may be right, R3.

The Obamas can smell a fake from a mile away.

And that's one thing they are not, is fake.

Looks like they clocked Meghan as a grifter, and they cancelled her!

As if.

I once was an Obama lover. Still think he was a terrific president. Still admire him for what he's done. And Michele seems even better.

But this celebrity ass-kissing thing they've gotten into is repellant. They seem just as shallow as they once seemed deep.

Celebrities are just more interesting than the rest of us.

I don’t think there’s ever been any kind of “special relationship” between rhe Obamas & Sussexes.

Sure, Harry was friendly (rather than friends) with them in a work capacity but so what? And I have a really strong suspicion that they’ve never rated Markle. Michelle is too smart to be impressed with that social climbing moron.

Most of the Obama celebrity friends are interesting - or at least can point to some record of career success or accomplishment. What do the Sussexes have to offer besides their royal titles? Meghan is so fake and rehearsed she comes off like a woke Stepford wife. A conversation with her must be painfully dull. Can you imagine her telling stories from her fabulous acting career? You'd probably have gotten more sincerity out of Nancy Reagan.

And Harry - is he capable of talking about anything other than his much-maligned mother or the stifling life of a British royal? Can you imagine spending a whole weekend with them?

We're in the midst of a global pandemic and the Sussexes have 2 kids who are too young to get vaccinated. If I were Harry or Meghan, I wouldn't go either, had I been invited. This article is click-bait. No one even knows it they were invited or not!

[quote] A conversation with her must be painfully dull. Can you imagine her telling stories from her fabulous acting career?

I was on SUITS, you rotten cunt!

The idea that the Obamas would have a party with 500 guests, not invite the Harkles, and still be friends with them is laughable.

They invited EVERYBODY - from small time rappers to golf caddies. But not the Harkles?

Obama has been friends with Harry for since he met him in 2009. They attended the Invictus games together and spent hours sitting with each other chatting.

Harry probably has spent more hours in close conversation with Obama than most of the other guests at that party (outside of Obama's advisers). He interviewed Obama for over an hour in 2017. He headlined the Obama Foundation summit a few years ago.

Prince Harry was absolutely someone Obama would have naturally invited to his party unless something had drastically changed. The obvious thing that changed is that Harry started insulting the Queen, Charles and William, all of whom the Obama's got along with famously.

Nobody with any sense wants a part of the new Scummy Harry, least of all people who, like the Obamas, love the Queen.

[quote] First they dump Oprah, and now they dump Meghan.

Dumping Oprah is impossible. Oprah is elemental.

Unless you can stop the sun from rising and setting, you can't 'dump' Oprah.

^^Hi Oprah!

[quote] But this celebrity ass-kissing thing they've gotten into is repellant. They seem just as shallow as they once seemed deep.

Those celebrities went hard for Obama -- money, appearances, vocal support, etc. He is not ass-kissing, they are his extended social circle. The Obamas are very discreet and we know very little about who they associate with unless it is publicized like this party.

I don’t think there was ever a love affair. There might have been a bit of mutual something or other.

The Obamas don’t need the Sussexes and don’t need the tarnish by association.

Don’t be stupid, R12. Working with someone like that doesn’t necessarily make them “friends”, for fuck’s sake.

Why would Obama want to be friends with that thick shit?

[quote] Harry probably has spent more hours in close conversation with Obama than most of the other guests at that party (outside of Obama's advisers).

Dumbest thing I’ve ever read on DL.

The love was entirely unrequited on the Obamas' part

After Meghan lied about having lunch with MO when in fact she was just reading her email responses to questions, the Obamas got MM's number and backed away from her. They also are friendly with the BRF. And their oldest daughter is in a serious relationship with an aristo Brit, whose brother has served in the households of both the Queen and the Prince of Wales.

They aren't in the Sussex column. They're not only not in the Sussex column, they're IN the English aristo Windsor column.

Win some, lose some, Meghan.

Don't expect an invite to Malia's wedding to young Farquharson, Megs dear.

Although it's likely the Cambridges will get one

r18 Interesting Obama connection to the aristocracy. I wasn't aware of that information regarding Malia.

Bullshit, r17.

r17 is to stupid to live.

It's not just President Obama who was good friends with Harry, Michelle was friends with him too.

r22 Clearly adding credibility to the theory something significant has changed.

r17 needs to die in a GREASE FIRE!

Here is Harry interviewing Obama. It's a lengthy interview between obvious friends.

Whatever the case, two major newspapers have written articles about their absence (The Daily Mail and The Telegraph). That must be mortifying for Meghan.

r24 I do however thing that kind of thing has contributed towards Prince Harry overestimating his own importance, having a big ego and eventually overplaying his hand. He may not like it but his prominence and appeal is not solely and exclusively about him personally and what a fantastic person he is.

Vanity Fair described Harry and Obama as "close personal friends" back in 2017 - long before Harry married Meghan.

Sounds more like the Obamas love affair with Haz and Megs has ended. Don’t get it twisted. Barry and Chels cut off the Sussexes.

Harry sat down for an GMA interview alongside Michelle Obama. Clearly the two were good friends at the time.

Meghan and Harry Markle weren't invited.

But they couldn't make Obama's celebrity ass-licking party anyway since they are on parental leave from their nonexistent jobs.

Lord the hate for the woman in here is SMH-worthy. I wouldn't even say hate for the couple cause if Harry dropped her today you would be back on his side.

Are you lost, r32, dear?

Now that will give the British tabloids something to write about for the next month or so. No need to write articles about Andrew and his Royal dick that likes em young.

Are you really so pig ignorant that you think PR puff like that indicates “true friendship”?

Grow the fuck up.

The Obamas are KLANGRANNIES! How very dare they dislike MeGAIN?!

You can talk R33. Tattle Life not enough for you, you fat old cow? The H&M threads used to be witty until you showed up with your obsession.

Right, r35, because Obama spends hours visiting, hours being interviewed by, attends major sporting events with, headlines hos own foundation events with some guy he is not friends with.

Obama even tweeted out to the world describing Prince Harry as "my friend". Are you saying he did that with every random guy he met through his Presidency? Because he didn't.

What, are they really even friends? Obama and Harry met once or twice. They barely know each other. Just because Meghan Markle invited several celebrities she hardly knew or didn't even know at all to her wedding, doesn't mean that being mentioned in the same sentence shows they are friends or even know each other. The Obamas and Markles are barely a step up from strangers.

The Obamas snubbing the Markles means that they are clearly as racists, just like the BRF, the UK media and the entire British public (according to the Harkles and their fans).

After all, racism is the ONLY POSSIBLE reason IMAGINABLE that someone might not like this couple.

Isn't that right, SussexStans?

What country will the Harkles flee to now that Barack and Michelle Obama, the true cultural leaders of the USA, have now been outed as being racist towards them?

After all, that kind of racism was why they "had to flee" the UK....

It’s his bloody JOB, R38.

Jesus wept...you’re stupid.

R40, you sound obsessed. How do you know that they weren’t invited and simply declined since they just had the baby? But, you do you, and keep stalking their yard at night.

Sometimes when a very famous person meets another famous person, they like each other. And then their PR people are absolutely thrilled and they set about creating opportunities for the two famous people to get more favorable publicity and money. This is usually centered around a creative collaboration or a charitable one. This is nit a real friendship, the way a real friend would stage an intervention or hold your hair back while you are puking from another round of chemo. This is a mutual regard and benefit kind of friendship.

And sometimes a famous person makes a big fat mistake or dozen, and nobody wants to be around that mess.

Sunshine Sachs would have made sure the world knew they were invited even if they decided not to go.

They’re all cunts. Look, celebs have different definition of friendship than most people. The Obamas can be friends with say, the Clooneys, but not in the same capacity that you’d think a friendship would be. Like, do you think one would be at each other’s hospital bedside if one was sick? Or do you think one would take time out from their busy day to spend time with or buy lunch to their sick friend at home? I’ve done those things for close friends and even for their parents.

So no, celebrity friendships are often transactional and based upon mutual benefits or publicity-driven, even the ones who truly like each other. If Harry and Meghan are seen as having nothing to offer under those terms, then they’re nobodies in Hollywood. They haven’t proven that they can help anybody’s career, not by association anyway. If anything, they themselves come off as desperate for fame, attention, and money-making schemes.

Meghan is MAD at the Obamas.

She did the entire crappy 40x40 'get women jobs' birthday thing to copy Obama's "44x60" party invitations, which came with the request that guests commit to helping young men get jobs.

It looks like she's trying to rebuke the Obamas for not including women in their own birthday request.

They may like Harry but they clearly can't stand his wife and disapprove of what he and his wife did to Harry's family.

Just looking at those photos of Harry with Obama, he looks like a different person.

Man, that evil bitch did some number on Harry.

They should have called her Morgan, as in Le Fay, instead of Meghan.

This doesn't just clearly signal the end of the Obamas' friendship with the Harkles, it also signals the end of any hopes, however outlandish, Meghan had that she can run for President as the Democrat candidate.

Obama is the Dems' kingmaker, and he will stay their kingmaker for the rest of his life. He invited everyone but the kitchen sink - and the Harkles - to his party. Any political aspirations she may have had are now sitting in the trash (alongside her morals and 'good taste') as of the moment they were not invited to this party.

Alright, DL Dicks (detectives, I mean) - wouldn't Meg have had to see the invitation with Obama's "44x60" logo which was seen on napkins and other goods at the party, in order to steal the "40x40" idea? Meaning they would have been invited.

Maybe she saw Gayle King’s invite.

EVERYBODY saw the invitation, including those who were not invited, r50. This party was organized AGES ago.

If you think that the Harkles wouldn't have found out what the Obamas' birthday present request was, you're delusional. She was LIVING for that invite, and clearly organized her copycat 40x40 birthday video as soon as it was clear the 44x60 party invite was never going to arrive.

[quote] R17 is to stupid to live.

Oh, dear!

Markle would have crawled over broken glass to be there if she had received an invitation to the Obama's party. And if she didn't want to get a babysitter, she would have gone alone and left Harry at home to take care of the kids. The Markles weren't invited.

And she would have had Sunshine Sachs announcing she had been included on the guest list. And she would have sent a gift even though Obama said no gifts...and she would have had Sunshine Sachs announce it. And she would have posted an announcement on her website. And she would have had Sunshine Sachs announce it. And she would have worked it into the conversation with Melissa McCarthy while Harry juggled his balls outside. And she would have had Sunshine Sachs announce it.

[quote] The H&M threads used to be witty until you showed up with your obsession.

They were never, ever witty.

[quote] They were never, ever witty.

Not for people with sticks up their arses, maybe.

Decades ago, Truman Capote committed “social suicide” by telling tales about his socialite friends. That’s nothing compared to this. Harry attacked his own family. He was, in turn, reportedly snubbed by family members at Prince Philip’s funeral, and now he’s been snubbed by the elite on this side of the Atlantic. How does anyone come back from that?

Meghan has no original ideas of her own, she copies, rehashes, regurgitates other celebs time and time again.

What a wretchedly unoriginal narcissistic fake cunt!!! And I'm so ecstatic she wasn't invited. hahahahahahaha

How it started...How it's going

Harry worked on the Invictus Games with Michelle as First Lady. Since then he's humiliated himself and both have shown themselves to be losers bigtime. Why should the Obamas give them the time of day?

Problem is not that the Sussexes attacked one family member, but multiple family members, basically the whole fucking family. Also, not just from themselves but through their public mouthpieces Scobie and others. So while having a beef with one family member and attacking them is one thing, attacking your entire family in the public is another. People can be persuaded to be understanding only up to a certain point. Telling lies about multiple family members to settle personal score and to propel themselves into celebrity-victims is overkill.

How are the insanely racist Sussexstans handling the revelation that their goddess Meghan has been wholly humiliated by their higher gods, the Obamas?

Must put them in quite the dilemma.

"Obama brands Meghan a Z-lister"

"Meghan got Obama'd"

"Harry and Meghan are no longer A-list"

the older "Michelle" gets, the more obvious "she"s not what "she" pretends to be.

Michelle has completely blossomed in post first lady life, r66. She seems so much happier and always seems like she's having fun.

I'll bet she's had Meghan's number from the get-go, and once the Harkles started hacking away at the Queen, with whom she has a very warm relationship, she looked over at her hubby making the invitation list and said "Those two embarrassing ingrates are absolutely NOT coming, Barack."

I think Michelle can spot phonies a mile away. God knows she had to live with all of Obama's friends for years now.

R67 please tell me that you're a 87 yo woman living alone in a housing project studio with a CRT TV set

R67 please tell me that you're a 87 yo woman living alone in a housing project studio with a CRT TV set

Who the fuck are the Obamas supposed to hang out with? If it's politicos, they're not "going away quietly". If it's stars they're just starfucking, if it's their mechanic they're just trash who found their own level. Damned if they do, damned if they don't

Inviting the Sussexes means having to make extra security arrangements. It's probably a pain in the ass having them as guests.

The Obamas are fine. They hang out with people they like, and Meghan and her newly gelded clown prince are not among those people.

Celebrities are fair-weather friends. They only are friends because they are all celebrities. Honestly, people should hang out with their true friends who were there with them when they were nobody.

Oh please, r72. Nobody is chasing Meghan and Harry. She has to call the paps to get them interested in coming to pap her now that she and Harry aren't in the BRF.

Something she has done since her acting days.

Meghan convinced Harry that none of his friends, family, or press liked her because everyone is racist and he bought it hook, line and sinker. He even recently implied his mother was killed because she was dating a POC and now he's living the same story. So I wonder what excuse Meghan will use when he asks why the Obama's don't like them anymore. That TQ threatened to have them killed like Mummy and the Obama's are trapped and afraid? That William and Charles called the Obama's and spread lies about them because they're jealous and threatened of Meghan's popularity?

If ever there was a time for Harry to start using his brain, this is it.

[quote]it also signals the end of any hopes, however outlandish, Meghan had that she can run for President as the Democrat candidate

Not so fast. Here are some of the women whom Meghan and Harry's website lauds for "creating a global movement of compassion and impact." because they tweeted about Meghan's birthday wish on social media: Stacey Abrams, Malala.

A page on her site (published today) features photos of some celebs who tweeted about her. She even designed a special log for her birthday, and had it put on a T-shirt which she apparently sent the celebs to wear in their social media posts. Many celebs copied/pasted a statement word-for-word in their tweets. Other's paraphrased it to remove the phrase "my friend Meghan".

R71 so there’s no one in-between celebs and “trash”? How about people who are nor famous and have non-entertainment industry jobs? Anyway, it’s no one’s business who the Obamas hang out with, and I highly doubt everyone invited to the birthday party are close friends nor A-listers. I mean, H.E.R was invited, so was Erykah Badu. I doubt the former us a close friend and the latter is A-lister.

Who could fault the Obamas for leaving out a couple who uses PR lies to convey closeness to the former POTUS and his much-admired wife? Especially Michelle as a black woman of her age, she must have experienced racism not of the imagined variety that Meghan claims to have suffered. The same Meghan who identified as white on acting CV, joined white sorority, dated and married white men, and ghosted the black side of her family.

I was kind of wondering when they'd go after Malala. When she tweeted, I'm glad she modified the original statement to eliminate the phrase "my friend Meghan".

Meghan got Markled by the Obamas.

In others words, the Obamas ghosted the Markles.

And Markle knows all about ghosting. She does it all the time to others.

R77, she has a future in politics only if she can demonstrate that she can raise massive amounts of money. A few tweets won’t be enough.

It can't be over because it never began. Doesn't a love affair require mutual affection? Not unrequited masturbation?

She put "My friend Meghan" in the statement she sent to people to have them say?

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

Obama's presidency already pales next to Joe's.

Interesting that Meghan and Harry did not issue any face saving PR, e.g., we would have gone to the party but we have a new baby, etc. That is usually one of their tactics. Makes me think that someone made clear to them that if they tried to insinuate they were invited the Obamas would pointedly make it known they weren't.

Thus her 40×40 ripoff of O's 44x60 deal. Plus, their PR have recently released several items claiming they are following the Obama's "game plan" or "following in their footsteps" (thereby equating them, as if). Pure narc rage FU moves. Notice things have been quiet on Meghan's end re the royals? She's moved her obsession/hate to the Obamas.

This is so hilarious.

Could not have happened to a nicer gold-digging asshole and her human shovel.

People of means shouldn't flaunt their wealth so publicly. The Obamas should have had a discreet affair. Better yet, they should have given some money to those less fortunate.

How Prince Harry dropped in the UK polls - and when the tide turned

^^^^ The polling timeline shows that the public turned on the Harkles BEFORE the media did, contrary to the Harkles' own claims that the 'racist' media caused the public to turn:

November 2017—Engagement Announcement

Prince Harry—81 percent

Meghan Markle—49 percent

November 2018—Story Claiming Meghan Made Kate Cry, They announce they're leaving K.P. for F.C and splitting household staff from Cambridges

Prince Harry—77 percent

Meghan Markle—55 percent

August 2019—After Long Wave of Negative Publicity [Super-shower, Secret birth, secret godparents, guest-editing Vogue, 6 private jets in 11 days, snubbing the Queen's invitation for Elton and then Ibiza holidays, and of course, throwing 50 Wimbledon ticket holders out of their seats so she and two friends could watch the semi-finals]

Prince Harry—71

Meghan Markle—49

October 2019—Meghan Reveals Struggle With Media While in Africa ["No one asks me if I'm ok"]

Prince Harry—71 percent

Meghan Markle—55 percent

January 2020—Meghan and Harry Quit Royal Duties

Prince Harry—55 percent

Meghan Markle—38 percent

July 2021—Four Months After Oprah Winfrey Interview

Prince Harry—31 percent

Meghan Markle—32 percent

^^^^^^^^Correction^^^^^^^^: The polling shows that the public did not respond to negative media publicity at all, and only lowered their opinion of Harry and Meghan first when they left the BRF, and then after the Oprah interview.

Chrissy Teigen should pay attention, the only reason she got invited was because she is John's plus 1. If they divorce her social standing drops even further.

As of May 17th 2021, YouGov polled the question "should Harry and Meghan lose their royal titles?

44% Should lose them

20% Not lose them, but relinquish them

17% Neither lose nor relinquish them

20% Don't know

Meghan ghosted? Hahahahaaaa

I wouldn't read too much into them not being at Obama's party. Obama's rich and he is no longer POTUS. He doesn't have to play politics with anyone.

Maybe the Obamas don't consider them to be "personal friends." Who knows. I doubt their absence had anything to do with the Oprah interview. After all, Oprah was there! I'm sure they're all still on good terms.

Meghan just had a baby, maybe she wasn't interested in going. There could be any number of reasons why they weren't there. I know there are a lot of Meghan haters on DL, but I doubt the Obamas share your hatred of them. They probably don't think about those people at all.

Also, remember he is "no drama Obama." The Sussexes would have possibly drawn too much attention away from his celebration. For that reason alone, personally, I would not have invited them. But I don't think Obama thinks that way.

If they are considered friends then they probably were invited but just didn't come. If they're not close friends then both couples certainly know this (despite what the media may think) and they probably were not invited. Either way, I don't think anything has changed in the status of their relationship post the interview with Oprah.

Unlike many people here posting hate about Meghan, the Obamas certainly understand being in public life and experiencing racism. They would not oppose or try to penalize Meghan for speaking out about it.

I don't think Obama would have had a problem with their Oprah interview per se.

It was what they said in the Oprah interview: the fact that they called the BRF racist while whining for money and titles from the same, and the fact that much of what they said was later proved false.

The interview made it clear they are a pair of spoilt psychos with no sense of gratitude, loyalty, decency or discretion.

Obama likes the Queen a lot, and also didn't want a pair of grubby blabbermouths trying to make money off of his hospitality.

Two perfectly sound reasons to ghost them.

Why should Harry and Meghan be invited to a former American president's birthday party? They're nobodies who have done nothing of note. The only status characteristic about them was their connection to the British royal family, which they have now destroyed. They are a liability more than anything. American celebrities who still think they're something and even the few British celebs with some lingering feeling of loyalty towards them need to wake up to the fact that they are pariahs who can damage anything associated with them.

R94. If Oprah was invited to Obama's party, she did not attend.

[Quote]I don't think Obama would have had a problem with their Oprah interview per se.

It was what they said in the Oprah interview

Why would Obama even care about any of that? He is not personally impacted by anything any of these people do. He is now a private citizen so he doesn't even have to comment on it if he doesn't want to.

R95 that is a whole lot of projection and based on zero fact but go ahead and knock yourself out.

The things a lot of you Nervous Nellies spend hours pondering over, regular people don't even think about.

Reminds me of when Kanye/Kim were trying to be besties with JayZ/Beyonce. The men may have had a relationship but, apparently, Beyonce couldn't stand Kim and didn't want to be associated with her social climbing, grifting ass. So, no relationship. Most guys don't care enough to rock the boat.

Remember me?

R97

According to the Washingtonian, Oprah Winfrey was at Obama's 60th Birthday Party!

"Others reportedly seen arriving on Martha’s Vineyard over the weekend:

Gayle King Steven Spielberg Bradley Cooper Dwyane Wade and Gabrielle Union Nancy Pelosi Oprah Don Cheadle"

The Obamas may have been good pals with Harry at one point, but it's clear that they want nothing to do with Meghan and nothing to do with the new Meghanized, anti-BRF version of Harry.

There were 500 guests and room for more. They could have easily invited the Harkles but obviously chose not to.

Not hard to figure out. They like the Queen and their own privacy better than they like the gold digger and her human shovel.

People mistake cordial, formal relations with friendship. In his role as President, Obama had cordial formal relations with Prince Harry, a representative of QEII. Knocking a few back at the pub is not part of what constitutes formal relations.

Ginger Megs weren't invited to Obama's super spreader do because it was private event, outside of the parameters of formal relations.

I highly doubt that the Obamas have 500 close friends, r103.

Most of the group invited were people with whom they had cordially friendly relations.

Also, there was little that was formal about the Obamas' one-on-one relations with Harry. When Harry interviewed Obama for an hour, including a lengthy and funny, chummy round of "Would you rather", there was nothing formal about it. Likewise when Michelle and Harry gave a giggly and bantering dual interview to GMA about the Invictus games.

Harry was an obviously beloved friend of the Obama's shoe-in for any Obama party list.

Until Meghan showed up, that is.

Michelle strikes me as having an incredible BS detector. I can't imagine the "we had chicken tacos" fiasco went over well with her.

"So, over a casual lunch of chicken tacos and my ever-burgeoning bump, I asked Michelle if she would help me with this secret project."

People went INSANE over the where, when and how of this luncheon, before they eventually figured out that Meghan was craftily covering up the fact that all she did was send an email to Michelle with questions and Michelle sent an email back with one-line answers.

And that when Meghan hit send she happened to be eating chicken tacos (Tacos made in England? I love tacos and I love England, but blecchhh).

r106 Omg! Really?? Got to hand it Megain. That's some sly, cynical shit right there. Says a lot about her character. Very crafty indeed.

Meghan also wrote about having a "power meeting" with Michelle, which she wrote was "scheduled." What actually happened was that Meghan crashed the backstage area of one of Michelle's stops on her book tour in 2018 and was able to exchange a handful of words with her before being ordered out.

Meghan is unlikely to be harbouring political ambitions. For one thing, it's real work and as she made clear in her paltry career as a working royal, making small talk with the plebs and constantly having to monitor what you say ain't her thang.

Endless rubber chicken events, waving, smiling, boning up on local issues . . . Only without a title, curtseys, and a free home and paid for staff.

Because if she wants to hold high office in Ametica, the first thing she'll have to drop is that fucking silly title.

"Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the next Democratic Senator of California, Meghan The Duchess of Sussex!"

Really? Meghan is about skimming the cream off the top - the good life, celebrity, shallow pontificating, moving fast from one meaningless gesture to another . . .

And then there's the little matter of what will come out of the woodwork. The American political system isn't going to protect her the way the BRF did, throwing staff to the wolves and paying people off for NDAs.

Running for high office isn't that different from the work she hated doing as a senior working royal.

No, Meghan wants the name without the game. She's thin-skinned, imperious, self-entitled, mean-spirited, and has too many skeletons in the closet.

And as the American government doesn't recognise foreign titles, she'd have to let go of that or she'll look like a moron talking about equality and all that shit.

And Meghan will have splinters from the porch railings before she lets go of that title.

Oh, and First Gentleman Prince Henry Charles Albert David. Duke of Sussex? Who will have recently written a book screwing his family over and insulting an old ally's Head of State? For big money?

Klan thread. F & F.

More lowbrow media scumbags trying to make something bad out of nothing.

When Megxit occurred, reports were release (three guesses by whom) that the Obamas advised them to leave the royal family. The Obamas were quick to clarify that 1) they did no such thing, 2) they were not in contact with the pair, and 3) that it was normal, while in office, to build close ties with members of ally nations and that they had also had close ties with the Cambridges. This is a classy rebuttal that roughly translates to "We aren't friends with these fools. We had a cordial relationship with them while in office much like one has with an office coworker they have no choice in associating with. We also like the Cambridges (so don't drag us into your drama and make it look like were choosing sides or aiding in your asinine efforts)".

They were not ever "friends". And any working relationship was dashed because the Harkles have proven they are untrustworthy, willing to dish the secrets of those closest to them and use them for PR. Even after this pointed rebuttal, the Harkles continue to use the Obamas in their PR. While they no longer state that they are friends or mentors, they claim they are "mirroring", "following in their footsteps", "taking the same post-office path", etc. The utterly shameless Harkles use the Obama name incessantly to generate clicks and to make it appear that they run in the same circles and are on the same level as a former world leader and his accomplished wife. No one else has tried to ride the Obama's coattails to this degree. They know her game and there is no love lost there.

[QUOTE] Obama likes the Queen a lot,

Doubt it. The BRF is a relic of ten centuries of racism and colonialism.

I think it‘s rather simple: They liked Harry before he started playing a victim and humiliating QE2, someone the Obamas seem to be genuinely fond of.

They never liker Meghan, as they can spot a grifter from a mile away.

Solution: Don’t invite the two.

liker = liked

This one is very easy.

--The Obamas held a huge party to return the countless invitations to countless events they have attended since he left the Presidency.

--The party was large b/c it was planned before the spread of the delta variant when they thought an outdoor party would be fine Covid-wise.

[bold]Even before Megixt and the Oprah interview, the Obamas did not like Meghan Markle.[/bold] When Michelle was in the UK promoting her book, she did not stop by to see the Duchess of Sussex. Think about it, the AA First Lady not seeing the first AA HRH Royal Duchess? What did Meghan do about it? She bought a ticket to Michelle's lecture about her book and sent a message backstage that she was in the audience. She needed advice from Michelle? Talk about presumptuous. After a few minutes, she left. The press found out she and Michelle conferred.

Which begs the question. During Obama's time in the WH, did Meghan try to make contact, did she angle for an invite, did she tell tall tales to friends acquaintances? From what we know about Meghan...

r113 That's where you're wrong, kiddo.

What "racism" was England involved in for "ten centuries", r113?

When you say that England was involved in "colonialism" for ten centuries, r113, do you mean the THREE TIMES that England was colonized? By the Romans, then by the Vikings, then by the Normans?

Is that what you mean, r113?

R94 You keep telling yourself that, dear.

The facts are against your fervently fingers crossed scenario.

Meghan has been trying to "attach" the Obama's without success, especially Mrs O. Maybe Meghan shouldn't have lied about lunching with MO when she was only reading email responses, something MO swiftly saw to it that Meghan clarified. MO also clarified that Meghan pushed her way onto the backstage area of one of MO's speaking engagements and then tried to make it look like she'd been invited and had some sort of relationship with MO.

Meghan may be mixed race, but you need a bit more than that to get in with the Obama's, who, as you can see, have plenty of white friends.

Meghan has told too many lies and the Obamas haven't let her get away with her cheesy tactics. Obama likes the Queen (see post downthread) and he and his wife know an unprincipled opportunist when they see one. They have kept far away from her or endorsing her. If they felt differently about her, you'd know it by now.

They don't fucking like it trust her and it shows.

That's why she wasn't invited. And having recently had a baby didn't stop Meghan from flying from London to New York to see her "friend" Serena Williams play in the US Open, where Serena's Mum gave Meghan anything but a warm welcome.

She's a pushy bitch and they know it. If she'd been invited, she'd have shown up if she had to walk there.

Stop fantasising. They didn't want her there because they don't like her and they were appalled at what she did to the Queen whilst Philip was dying. They value family loyalty. They of all people can see through bullshit and they know she lied on that interview.

Meghan is a shallow, cynical, self-aggrandizing bitch. And the Obamas know it. Their daughter is dating an English aristocrat. Obama adored the Queen.

Yeah. Eat it, Sussex stans: Obama likes the Queen and doesn't like Meghan.

R104 and R117 mistake diplomacy and cordiality for "friendship" and "closeness". Obviously, neither have any knowledge of the workings of the diplomatic or high government sectors. People can be pleasant, cheerful, and downright chummy. It doesn't mean they are "friends" or even particularly like each other. It's all part of the job and the facade demanded therefrom.

R120 has no idea of what - or of whom - it speaks.

There seem to be some people on this thread who are having trouble with reality:

They aren't good friends with the Obamas.

OP is just a god damned cunting racist piece of shit

maybe the Sussexes' are being cautious since they have two babies. If it were me I wouldn't go anywhere because of my kids.

Name all the other persons who Obama publicly called "my friend" on twitter.

Name all of them.

Should be easy. It's a very, very short list.

Go on. Name them.

Even if Obama was friends with Harry, the Obamas aren’t friends with the couple now. Or else they would have had an invitation.

[quote]Who the fuck are the Obamas supposed to hang out with?

How about Habitat for Humanity (like Jimmy Carter) or some other worthwhile activity that doesn't involve golfing with celebrities. Is Obama just going to live the life of a post-NBA Michael Jordan? Golfing, socializing, doing the occasional high-paying speaking gig at retreats for hedge fund professionals and investment banks?

I love the people saying the Obamas are racist for not inviting H&M. Have you forgotten that Obama himself HAS A WHITE PARENT????!!!

I just remembered: Didn't Harry try to persuade then-CEO of Disney to give Meghan a role / a gig as voice-over for an upcoming project?

You don't want those kinds of opportunists to be lurking at your party.

Considering the fact Meghan's 40th birthday was the same day as Obama's 60 birthday, perhaps Meghan just wanted just wanted to spend it at home with her children and Harry. Archie is old enough to understand the concept. And there are people who still avoid crowds due to COVID.

R124 / R130 — don't make me laugh! You really think MeAgain, grifter supreme, would let anything benign as little children or a pandemic keep her away from the spotlight?

You sweet, sweet summer children…

Thank you, Dutchie. We live in hope that they may see the truth!!!

R124 - THEY - WERE - NOT - INVITED.

They have nannies. They have chefs. They have security details. They have housekeepers.

They're safer than most of the rest of us.

P.S. George Clooney has two toddlers, as well.

Are there other ex presidents who have such ostentatious homes?

Other than the Obamas and Trump, I mean?

Who gives a shit about these grifters on both coast living like royalty (no pun intended) while most of us struggle to survive? I sincerely hope that our tax dollars weren't used by the Secret Service to give the fu*king Obamas 'more privacy for their party' but for security concerns which is what they're supposed to be doing. I'm glad pictures from the party were posted so that people can see how ridiculous and inappropriate the event was.

R125 - Martin Nesbitt, David Axelrod, Valerie Jarrett, Eric Whitaker, George W. Bush (believe it or not), Dr. Sharon Malone, Denielle Pemberton-Heard, Kelly Dibble, Beyoncé, and Jay-Z.

These are acknowledged to be his real circle of friends. Harry is not part of that circle of friends, his own circle of friends back in England has also evaporated and he was a lot closer to to them than to Barack Obama, and Meghan never even got to the outermost rim.

Meghan's appearance on the scene changed e it all.

They all know her for the grifting hungry celebrity wannabe she is. They're not stupid.

Have you seen Harry and Obama doing Zoom calls about the state of the world? Meghan Zooming with Michelle about motherhood and feminism?

If they had been, Sunshine Sachs would have broadcast it to Pluto.

Those were never really close relationships, and where Meghan was concerned, it was no relationship.

She shouldn't have tried her blatant Big Lie technique on Michelle Obama right out of the starting gate. Meghan was playing with the Big Girls then, and she didn't know it. She figured Mrs Mixed Race would never rat out a sorta sistah . . .

She was wrong.

They know who she is and what she did to Harry and his family. They know she's not above lying repeatedly.

They are two of the savviest people on the planet and they want to stay far away from her.

R134, most US presidents have come from the upper class. They grew up with mansions and servants and retired to mansions and servants. I imagine that the Bushes have some nice homes, but of course that’s “tasteful” because it’s inherited. A few presidents, such Clinton and Obama, did not come from money and therefore scandalized people by buying fancy homes.

Um, who cares? You Meghan loons are nuts.

r102 Yes indeed but it's as some of the articles posted out it isn't just the party but the fact Michelle Obama wasn't involved in Meghans birthday 40 40 mentoring project.

We also have to remember that the Obama’s almost certainly have access to information that we don’t.....the Sussexes shocking behaviour to staff, for example.

I think they just don’t want anything to do with them & who can blame them?

These stories pointing out the lack of an invitation ARE embarrassing for Smug & Mug and I am 100% certain “sources” (aka Sunshine Sachs) would have been awfully quick to intervene if they actually had been invited.

Clearly they weren’t & I think that speaks volumes.

[quote] Considering the fact Meghan's 40th birthday was the same day as Obama's 60 birthday, perhaps Meghan just wanted just wanted to spend it at home with her children and Harry. Archie is old enough to understand the concept. And there are people who still avoid crowds due to COVID.

OMG!!!! R130, did it really take 130 posts before anyone could offer the most likely and sensible reason the Sussexes were not in attendance?! Sad...

Why the fuck is this being described as a 'post pandemic party' - WE ARE STILL IN A GLOBAL PANDEMIC!!!

r130 Meghan would have crawled through through five broken glass versions of the Shawshank river of shit to go to this party, dragging Hapless Harry behind her in the plastic baggie of money, Rose.

Erm, no R141 - the most likely explanation for anyone not attending a party is not being invited 🙄

Marcia Obama:

Hello Meghan, this is Marcia. I called about the slumber party I'm having tomorrow night.

Meghan:

I can hardly wait.

Marcia Obama:

Well, it's only for my friends.

Meghan:

Sure, I'm your friend Marcia.

Marcia Obama:

Not anymore. So considered yourself uninvited! [Marcia Obama hangs up the phone]

Friends, associates, whatever. Throw out the labels and definitions. There are two rational reasons why Haz & Megs weren’t on the other coast for her birthday:

1. They have no loyalty to anyone. They’ve proven their cravenness over loyalty with the Oprah interview. They shared private BRF moments (albeit many proven lies), the timing (Philip on his deathbed ffs), they accused the BRF of racism (strange that Oprah didn’t ask why such a racist family allowed a prominent member to marry a (formerly white now) biracial woman).

In short, they’ve demonstrated their extreme untrustworthiness. What A-lister is gonna share personal info with them much less invite them to an exclusive party, the invite forbidding them to share any info whatsoever.

2. To springboard off an oldie but goodie: Never start any kind of war (land or sea) with the British Royal Family. Obama knows how to pick a winner and the Harkles ain’t it.

Not only that but the Obamas didn't want Harry hassling and begging his guests for work for Megsie. Remember Beyonce's expression at over-hearing it at the Lion King premiere.

r120 - Of course, you are right. At this level, people don't have friendships as much as alliances. Especially true of people they know only casually. If the Obamas have to choose between Harry and the BRF, they'll choose Harry.

After Harry's juggling cameo, we can all see how dim Harry is. Poor stupid man is mystified by the snub

[quote] If the Obamas have to choose between Harry and the BRF, they'll choose Harry.

Are you fucking insane? Of course rhey won’t.

[quote] If the Obamas have to choose between Harry and the BRF, they'll choose Harry.

Are you fucking kidding?

The Obamas did have to choose, because Harry's behavior against his family is so extreme that anyone who associates with him now is seen to be taking a side in the fight he has picked.

The Obamas have chosen: they chose the Queen.

Harry and Meghan are permanently OUT.

The Clintons don't have an ostentatious house. They actually have neighbors. The Obama's house reeks of entitled and above it all.

'When you say that England was involved in "colonialism" for ten centuries, [R113], do you mean the THREE TIMES that England was colonized? By the Romans, then by the Vikings, then by the Normans?'

No, KLAN GRANNY WHORE - I mean when THE BRITISH EMPIRE spanned most of the world, from Australia to America, taking in India, over a dozen African countries, much of the Caribbean, and countless other countries.

Why do you think THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE is spoken fucking EVERYWHERE? The CUNTS IN THE BRF were responsible for CENTURIES of racial oppression AND STILL ARE. I don't see Norwegian being an INTERNATIONAL LANGUAGE, do you, CAPSLOCK CUNT?

I cannot wait for the Queen to die. Charles is useless and hated, one of the least charismatic men alive. With any luck the monarchy will end with him.

I wonder, after this very public rejection by the top family in the country, if Smegs is going to be invited to the Met Ball this year?

Not that the M.B. is very discerning, but this is quite the slap-down.

The Obamas have made the fact that the Harkles are radioactive clear for all to see.

Also, Anna loves the Queen.

Anna bows to the woke every time. I can actually see her inviting the Harkles.

'The Obamas have made the fact that the Harkles are radioactive clear for all to see.'

The one who is radioactive is your fave Prince Andrew, the Pedo of York. This ghastly fucker is set to be arrested within the next few days, but you're still here fapping over Meghan.

The Harkles lost their woke cred when the Obamas publicly rejected them, r155.

Sorry - typo

If the Obamas have to choose between Harry and the BRF, they'll choose the BRF.

Sorry r156, r150, r149

The Obamas don't like Meghan for the same reasons the BRF don't like her, but unlike with the BRF, Meghan can't play the race card with the Obamas. It must infuriate her to be shut out and not be able to use her favorite weapon.

Wonder if Meghan would have tried it on w. BO. at party? A little sumptin sumptin/ for his b'day.' Oh wait, forgot, she don't do black guys..

R151 - The Clinton's home is in Chappaqua, a very expensive, virtually all white suburb about 50 miles of New York City. I've been driven by it by friends who live in Westchester County. It's a classy, fine, old white colonial.

The Obama home is, just their summer place on Martha's Vineyard.

Their year-round urban home is an $8.1million one in the exclusive Kalorama neighbourhood in Washington D.C. It's a nine-bedroom Tudor, 8,500-square-feet, on a quarter-acre of land.

Neither of the Clintons are New Yorkers, they bought that house when she was running for the NY Senate.

Although the colonial in Chappaqua (which by the way is still fighting to keep out affordable housing as mandated when a place takes federal money, because they don't want certain types of people moving in to take advantage of the town's excellent public schools) may look less ostentatious, but do remember that Hillary casually admitted during a speech to a bunch of investment banker millionaires at Goldman Sachs that she had forgotten how to drive as she's been chauffered around so much over the last twenty years. I think she was paid about $250,000 for the nice luncheon speech.

The Obamas made their way up legitimately. If they're inclined to enjoy the incredible wealth they accrued, I'm not going to come down too hard on them. All right, the Martha's Vineyard place is a little over the top.

But I don't think I hold the Clintons in any higher regard because they opted for the Old Money look.

Bill and Hillary lead separate lives. They bought the house next door in Chappaqua for Chelsea and her drug addict husband as their country retreat but Hills still lives in the house she bought in DC and Bill spends as much time in Manhattan as he does in rural NY. They only occasionally make public appearances together for PR purposes

The DL delusion about the Clintons has always been truly astonishing.

I’m almost starting to feel sorry for her, until I remember what a horrible person she must be to screw up everything so compulsively and have no one to tell her to stop. The Lilibet thing was just laughably dumb.

R163 She's had people willing to advise her properly, before and after Megxit. She ignored them. I'm sure her newer hires have gotten the memo: yes her to death, collect your salary, if the product fails, leave gracefully and make more money telling tales about how impossible she is to work for, or from a generous golden parachute in return for an NDA.

I tried to link an article from the Daily Mail saying how Meghan was crushed not to be invited but I kept getting an error message.

r165 How odd?

R100 did you miss this 2017 photo gold of Markle's unadulterated, frantic Grift Face hahahaha?!?! No doubt due to the fact that she was sitting apart from her then BF Harry. Coupled with the crazy eyes it says 1000 words. Far different from the California Smarm she puts on now.

R167 That, I believe, is from her appearance at the Invictus Games? On the arm of Markus Anderson, and Doria, I believe, was also in attendance, there was a grainy photo of Harry embracing Doria backstage.

Ah, yes, Mrs Bennett has played her cards exceptionally well.

'The Harkles lost their woke cred when the Obamas publicly rejected them'

As did Kate and her adulterous husband. They weren't invited either.

Kate and Wills have never sought woke cred, you blithering idiot.

Also, we all know that the adultery accusation is a lie. That's why the two twitter accounts the first posted it deleted their posts.

Now get back to LSA and join all the other fat racist Meghan-worshipping retards.

R169, I doubt Obama would be rude enough to expect the Cambridges to cross the ocean to attend his birthday party.

r170 My impression is there is strong dislike for Meghan Markle on LSA, one of the threads brilliantly takes her nonsense apart and Harry too.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

r173 My phone often plays funny buggers so you are far from alone in that!!

From the Daily Mail comments:

[quote]Speaks volumes that Chrissy Teigen's dog was there.....and not Meghan.

'Kate and Wills have never sought woke cred, you blithering idiot.'

Oh yes they have, you spastic cunt. Always prating about mental illness, post natal health, miscarriages. The same playbook as Meghan and Harry.

Meghan is an incredibly homely untalented woman. Nobody has time for her desperate ass.

Meghan is extremely talented as well as beautiful. Just ask her. But be sure to ask her also whether she's OK. Nobody does, poor dear.

And she has great legs, r178. Don't forget to mention that.

R177 Apparently, Netflix, Spotify, Gloria Steinem, Adele, and Hillary Clinton do.

All right, the signees to that ludicrous 40x40 project might be deemed an easy bit of smoke and mirrors, but her untalented ass got a book publishing contract, a Netflix contract, an Oprah special, and the BRF still refuses to kick her untalented ass OUT, for real.

All that goes for Harry, too, who also is staggeringly untalented and who has lost every shred of good looks he ever had.

Real A-listers like the Clooneys and Obamas, yes. But there's enough behind them to have given her far more of her dream bbn life than anything she does or has merits.

It's an unfair universe.

This is always the crux of the Meghan issue. Pre Oprah interview, she won. She got the mansion in Montecito she always wanted, Princess Di's grandkids, loose friends of the Clooney, maybe even the Obama's. She should have just moved and enjoyed her life, kept her mouth shut, quietly flown back from time to time to enjoy the UK and indulge in the Royal life a few months out of the year.

Ultimately, we are a product of our upbringing. She sabotaged herself unknowingly.

R181 If anyone should have been aware how fickle celebrity is, and what a pain in the arse it is to hustle for money and the airspace you constantly have to occupy to keep the celebrity that generates the money, it should have been Meghan.

Inside the BRF she had lifetime security at a very high level, celebrity she didn't have to work for because her status and patronages guaranteed visibility, a hugely rich and influential family behind her and her kids - it was a winning lottery ticket.

And she blew it because, bottom line, she's all smoke and mirrors: she isn't strong, she's thin-skinned with an ego both monstrous and fragile; she isn't warm, she's suspicious, paranoid, and spiteful; she isn't savvy, she's insular and blinkered.

Meghan was completely out of her depth when she got into those top tier circles she'd hungered to enter.

She flunked the audition, basically. She hadn't a fucking clue about the part she'd landed. Brazening it out just wouldn't cut it in those environs.

So she built up a victim narrative to get back to the only game she knows how to play: hustling for celebrity.

There isn't that much difference between what Kate has to do and what Meghan does.

But you can't look as if you're doing it, especially if the role you're selling is royalty.

And that's the trick Meghan just can't master.

She couldn't leave hustling Meghan at the door and slide into HRH The Duchess of Sussex. That's why she bullied the staff, alienated his family, and gave the tabloids ssf o much ammo

She never for one moment could stop jockeying for position, utterly failing to absorb that position was attained and nailed down.

It was fascinating to see her throw into the bin what so many other women would have realised was a lifetime granted by the gods only to a lucky few.

Melissa McCarthy released a statement today saying how wonderful Meghan was and how the world needed more like her and her 40x40 initiative.

The Sussex PR machine might just as well have put a banner across the top screaming "ANOTHER INITIATVE GONE FLAT AS A JOHNNYCAKE!"

Really, Meghan's PR must be fucking out of its mind to think anyone, anywhere, gives a shit what Melissa McCarthy has to say about anything, from La Markle to the weather.

This screams desperation.

Has Eugenie stepped forward to give it another little push?

“Hand-mixed martinis” - did they stick their fingers in and stir?!

That’s not shady, R2. That’s wise.

Not every A-lister likes every other A-lister.

What’s McCarthy’s angle? Is she a SS client? Is she floundering? Why is she messing around with this fuckery?

Oprah was also at the brunch with the Obamas the morning after.

R186 - There are no A-listers a B-lister like Meghan doesn't like.

If two couples ever deserved each other it's the Sussexes’ and the Obamas