Celebrities Our Parents Hated

Thank you, OP!

I mentioned this in the Ann Romano thread, but my mother had a real hatred for Meredith Baxter and Kate Jackson.

She said Meredith tried too hard to be funny on Family Ties, to the point of making Elyse seem manic, and that she should have stayed doing drama (she loved her as Betty Broderick).

Walking into the room during Scarecrow and Mrs, King, she snapped that Kate Jackson was 'always so unconvincing.'

She stood by these decades later. I love both Meredith and Kate. Who can explain it?

My best friend's sister absolutely hates Judith Light, but I can't remember why. I knew at one time.

My mom hated Olivia Newton-John. She'd complain about her awful voice anytime she showed up on TV or the radio.

I love Brenda Vaccaro’s voice. The queen of gravel.

Oh God, "Angie Dickinson and the three hairs she has left." My mother loathed her.

My mother hates Bette Midler, especially “The Rose”. I’ve never found it terribly offensive. Barbra’s better anyway.

My parents absolutely loathed Marlon Brando. I remember them making fun of him in "Streetcar" and I was surprised because I didn't know they'd ever seen the movie, they didn't have a VCR or cable and this was years before TCM, and they both said they hadn't ever seen the movie or in fact anything Marlon Brando was in except The Godfather, which they liked. Inexplicable. My parents just hated things for random reasons.

That woman with two vaginas totally needed Playtex tampons. They lift and separate!

Wasn't Brenda Vacarro too old to be pushing tampons?

I think with my mom it would be better to say who she did like. People like Paul Newman and Robert Redford because they were hot and in her mind they could do no wrong. She also said people like Betty White and Dolly Parton had, “ Places in Heaven” because of Betty’s work with animals and Dolly’s work with literacy and just being an all-around good person.

One person who pops into my mind who she couldn’t stand was Jaclyn Smith. She always said she, “Had no face”. I still have no idea what that means.

My dad loathed Dana Delany and Whoopi Goldberg. I asked him one time about Dana Delany and he told me he had no idea, he just couldn’t stand her. He hated Whoopi until he saw Ghost and said she was terrific in that movie. He didn’t like Liza either, but loved her in Arthur and that was one of his favorite movies of all time. He said no one else could’ve played that role.

My brother and I were not allowed to watch movies that featured Jane Fonda. That meant no 9 to 5, no Electric Horseman, and no California Suite -- those films were on heavy rotation on cable at the time. Our father was in the Vietnam War and got all huffy whenever Fonda appeared on TV for any reason. "A traitor to our country," he'd say to himself.

I lived with my Grandmother most of the time and she loathed Dale Evans! Always calling her an old whore.

Mick Jagger was really hated, also by the preppy babyboomer contingent.

My mom hated Cybill Shepherd with a passion, probably at first because she had a hard time separating the actress from her Last Picture Show character. She hated her even more when she read in the gossip magazines how Peter Bogdanovich left his wife and family for Shepherd, saying the director "needed his ugly ass kicked!" She flat-out refused to watch anything Shepherd was in, and when she spotted Cybill's autobiography on my bookshelf, she asked "why'd you buy that bitch's book?!"

My Dad couldn't stand Barbra Streisand. Her voice would aggravate his tinnitus. When he took us to see Hello, Dolly! ,because my Mom was a fan, he would dash to the lobby whenever a Streisand number would begin. My dad also disliked James Coburn. He said looking at him was like choosing to look at an anus for two hours. My Miom didn't like Robert Mitchum, Kirk Douglas or Lee Marvin. She felt they looked like rapists.

My parents never mentioned hating any celebrities but my grandmother hated Danny Kaye. No idea why. But now I find him rather creepy myself.

My mother hated Jack Lemon - thought he yelled too much.

My mother-in-law hated Cliff Robertson - because he once called her hometown “sleepy.”

My mother didn’t care for Lucille Ball. She said Ball overacted, and mugged too much. I saw my mom’s point. I can only take Lucille Ball in small doses.

Vera-Ellen, Alan King, Bill Haley

My mom disliked June Allyson—one of the few things we agreed upon

My mom hated Elvis Presley. She thought he was sin personified. I was too young to understand her hatred of the man, and when I found out who he was, I didn’t like his music anyway. Sorry, Mom.

Bonnie Franklin

Cher

Melissa Manchester

Linda Lavin

Valerie Harper

My Italian father would swear in disgust when Sonny and Cher came on TV. Usually he liked everyone who was Italian but not Sonny.

My mother DESPISED Phylicia Rashad- It was almost funny.

We were huge Cosby Show fans in my house, but my mother thought that she was the fakest woman/actress who ever walked the face of the earth~

Jane Fonda was referred to as Hanoi Jane in my family. It must have really chapped their asses when 9 to 5 was one of the first VHS tapes I ever bought with my birthday money.

I still believe history will be very kind to Jane. There's a woman who's always trying to do better, better herself, and become an ally to those who need help.

Thanks for the thread, OP! As I mentioned in the “Ann’s Crisis” thread, my mother loathed Kathie Lee Gifford, who she perceived as an obnoxiously phony.

Other folks she didn’t like include Phyllis Newman (Mom always thought she seemed too pleased with herself!), Lauren Bacall (a bitch — and history has proven Mom right on that one!) and James Caan, who she thought always came across as a strutting, Uber-macho pig.

Another one was Dixie Carter. Mom couldn’t stand her tirades on “Designing Women”, and I remember being home visiting once when “Entertainment Tonight” did an “At Home with Dixie and Hal” segment on Ms. Carter and her husband. They had a HUGE, ostentatious portrait of her on a staircase, and at the end of the segment, as the Holbrooks proudly stood on the staircase in front of the portrait, my mother said, “I think I’m going to throw up!” She apparently felt these things very deeply.

My father hated Ethel Merman and my mother hated Frank Sinatra.

My mother never forgave Roald Dahl for “what he did” to Patricia Neal.

My mother loathed Bob Hoskins. She called him the walking testicle.

My dad despised Ethel Merman...I can't listen to her either. Shrill has never been a better word for her.

My Mom hated Lucille Ball too...mostly because of her voice and smoking

Barbara Streisand. My mother loathed her. "What an egotistical, selfish women!" Loretta Lynn, lol! My mother said LL was too ignorant to speak in public. "She is rich now! How much money would it cost to take education classes?" " Why did she marry that hideously ugly man? Wth is going on in "The Holler" to produce such ugliness?" To this day idk why she hated that women so much, but it brought much much amusement over the years, lolol.

[quote] My best friend's sister absolutely hates Judith Light, but I can't remember why. I knew at one time.

Did your best friend’s sister also grow up where Jeopardy! and Wheel of Fortune are on the ABC affiliate and thus have to be subjected to promos for that lousy sitcom of hers?

My Nonna hated Jackie Kennedy because she married Onassis and called her a "puttana".

I think my long widowed and from the old country nonna expected every widow to never remarry and wear black for the rest of their life.

To stay close to the original thread, my mom was not a fan of Bonnie Franklin, Linda Lavin or Patty Duke. She said they were all 'over-actors'. She didn't so much dislike Lucy as not think she was funny. She grew up in the '50s and said she thought ILL was funny when she was a kid, but she thought that part of the reason for Lucy's success was that 'there was nothing else to watch'. She usually saved her real venom for men who cheated/left their wives for another woman: Steven Garvey, Bruce Jenner, Ken Berry...those are the ones I can think of off the top of my head, but there were more.

My mother called Ann Miller “that black haired bitch” whenever Ann appeared on TV.

My mom hated the Kennedys deeply.

It'd odd, because my mom was from a Catholic family, and also was a left-winger her entire adult life. But she hated how arrogant the Kennedys were, and hated the idea of an American dynasty (she also hated the Bushes).

[quote] "My father hated Ethel Merman"

I really like her in "It's A Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World", R26. But beyond that? Spare me.

My parents couldn't stand Garry Shandling. They didn't understand and/or identify with his humor. My mother would always yell at me to change the channel when I would tune in to "The Lawrence Welk Show" on rainy Saturdays or Sundays. It's beyond cheesy as hell, but I still watch old clips, and my mother isn't alive to yell at me.

I have to give my mom credit though. She introduced me to "Dr. WHO", British comedy, and Cher, who is still my all-time number one.

My father has always hated Bill Cosby and John Travolta.

My grandmother insisted Ginger Rogers had thick ankles.

My mom hated Phil Silvers for some reason, and it angered her irrationally that "that no account daughter of his" was Jenny Piccolo on Happy Days. She also hated Laverne & Shirley, and Penny Marshall. "That poor Cindy Williams has to put up with that woman."

She also didn't think Robin Williams was funny and that "Mork was a stupid idea for a show, that man is on drugs."

I don't remember my dad ranting about much except his hated for the Raiders.

My parents both hated Desi Arnaz and would always grown whenever he started to sing on I Love Lucy. They just didn't get why he was on the show.

"To stay close to the original thread..."

Well smell you, Miss Hall Monitor.

Whenever Diahann Carroll would show up on TV in Julia, my mother would say, "she's pretty for a black lady."

My mom hated Liz Taylor, she used to say in her Irish accent that Liz was “- a dirty bitch who walks with a mattress on her back,” or she’d call her an “old whore.”

My whole fam hated Dionne Warwick. I tried to watch Solid Gold as a child and my parents would start snorting like pigs and would change the channel.

My mother LOATHED Linda McCartney (of all people). It was visceral and a little confusing because she generally loved celebrities and was always reading movie star biographies and fan magazines. But you could not mention Linda McCartney. Maybe she had a crush on Paul that she never revealed to us.

My mom hated "perfect" TV mothers like Florence Henderson and Doris Day (not sure how she felt about Doris' other body of work) For some reason she loved all the spunky single gals of the seventies like MTM and Valerie Harper.

My mom hated Rosanne and Dan Conners. She said they were nothing but trashy hogs.

[quote] My Nonna hated Jackie Kennedy because she married Onassis and called her a "puttana".

I'd be mad too if Jackie called me a puttana! What gall!

My mother didn't hate, but the only celebrities she didn't like were Vincent Price and Elvis Presley.

My grandmother (father's mother) hated anyone black. If Puerto Rican's had been big then she would have hated them too.

A friend of mine in HS had a very straight shooting type of mom. She was nice to me but would tell you how she felt in a second. Anyway, one day she came to see us in the gameroom where we were watching MTV. She saw Madonna on TV and said "I hate her. Hate that hussy!"

She ran around the room, screeching, pulling her shirt up and making noise, and then said, "Okay, where's MY million fucking dollars now? I just did the same thing!" Could not stop laughing. Damn, she was right, too. She said Madonna was too sacred a name and on any future discussions referred to her as "The Hussy."

My father did not like the actors on All In The Family or Maude, but I think Archie either hit too close to home for him or reminded him of his dad or grandfather.

R51 I would’ve loved to see your friends’ mother’s reaction to madonna’s Sex book!

My mother didn't like Oprah, Elvis, Rodney Dangerfield, and Steve Urkle (Jaleel White).

She really liked George Jefferson (Sherman Hemsley).

I think my mother hates almost all famous women, except Mother Theresa. I don't have the heart to tell her she was no saint.

She really did not like Princess Diana. She thought she was a fame whore.

I think she has a thing about vanity. Anyone that strikes her as vain gets under her skin. My father, on the other hand, loves everyone except the occasional republican politician. They can go straight to hell as far as he's concerned.

My mom didn’t like anything that wasn’t on TBN or Daystar.

R54 My mother didn't like Princess Diana either. However, she adored Queen Elizabeth II.

My father called Liberace a "fruit."

My father called Tiny Tim a "fruit."

My father called Catinflas a "fruit."

My father called Baryshnikov a "fruit."

But he liked all of them.

Go figure.

My parents hated Charlton Heston and the way he would "emote."

I went to Las Vegas with my mom years ago and I insisted on going to the Liberace museum. She wasn't impressed and kept making catty comments about everything. She had no appreciation for camp.

Anita Bryant...and this was BEFORE she became a known homophobe.

My mother hated Lucille Ball, or rather, the character she played on I Love Lucy. She said she didn’t understand how people could find a psychopath funny.

[Quote] My mom hated Liz Taylor, she used to say in her Irish accent that Liz was “- a dirty bitch who walks with a mattress on her back,” or she’d call her an “old whore.”

My mom told me that when she was pregnant with her first child in1959, she wanted to name her Elizabeth, but my dad said absolutely not, "No daughter of mine will share a name with that slut!"

[quote]r My mom hated Cybill Shepherd with a passion

Sheer, unadulterated jealousy!

[quote]r44 My mom hated Liz Taylor, she used to say in her Irish accent that Liz was “- a dirty bitch who walks with a mattress on her back,” or she’d call her an “old whore.”

Well, that’s all true, anyway…

There was nothing on TV that was off limits with one exception, The Mary Tyler Moore Show. Mom said Mary’s voice worked her last nerve and she could not abide by it. I think in particular it was when she did that high squeak of “Ohhhhhhh Misssssssster Graaaaaaaant!”

The list of celebrities my mother hated was long. I can't begin to remember all of them. But these are some of to top ones she hated:

Barbra Streisand

Judy Garland

Liza Minnelli

Bette Midler

Doris Day

I forgot my mom hated Brenda Lee and Tammy Wynette. If Rockin’ Around the Christmas Tree came on in the store during the Holiday season, she’d snarl and say, “That little bitch”.

When my mom was living in Nashville, sometime in the ‘60s, she was out at a bar with her cousin. She had known Brenda somehow and after a few drinks, Brenda came over and stepped on my mom’s foot while giving her the side eye. My mom, having a few in her already starting walking towards Brenda with a clinched fist and drew back before her cousin grabbed her hand and asked if she knew who that was. My mom said, “Brenda Fucking Lee, now let me at her”. My mom was 5’ 8” and Brenda was around 4’ 10” and my mom said Brenda always wore heels and big wigs to appear taller, but was still a “sawed off piece of shit”.

Now the reason she didn’t like Tammy was because the two of them were at some sort of function and a friend of my mom’s was having some personal issues she was dealing with at the time. My mom said she heard Tammy just within an earshot talking crap about her. My mom was very protective of this friend and said she had a heart of gold and didn’t deserve what Tammy was saying about her. After that, she had nothing nice to say about Tammy Wynette.

My mother calls Brad Pitt Brad Snit.

I know it will be hard, but viewers will have to suspend their disbelief that I could play the mother of a teenager.

^ Oops, wrong thread.

Unfortunately CZJ is sooo young none of our mothers even know who she is!

R71: Good one!

My grandmother hated Nanette Fabray. “With a nose like that you could drown in a rainstorm!”

My mom hated Ann Ramano!

I got my grandmother hooked on watching the tv show Peyton Place and every once in a while when Mia Farrow was on the screen she said "there's something wrong with that girl".

My mother disliked Shari Lewis. However, she never expressed any feelings one way or the other about Lambchop.

My mother hated Jack Nicholson.

I also had a friend whose mom hated him, and she said he looked like The Devil in human form.

My mom hated life

My Dad hated Sonny and Cher.

I had special permission to stay up and watch their show.

Always a walk-through nasty remark. Never understood it.

The fact that so many of you had parents who hated random celebrities explains a lot about why so many DLers are the way they are.

Not specific celebrities per se, but my Dad hated [italic]The Brady Bunch[/italic]. He liked [italic]Gilligan's Island[/italic], though.

My mom said Lou Rouls and Rock Hudson were fruity

#43, my mom said that, too- but she'd say "colored girl". And it would always be a bi-racial, like Vanessa Williams.

I don't think my dad hated him, but he always made fun of John Travolta. He would always call him John Revolt-a.

[quote] My mom said Lou Rouls and Rock Hudson were fruity

Well, she was half right.

My mom and I would laugh our asses off at Jeri Jewel on Facts of Life

My dad hates (and will still mention how much he hates) Shelley Winters. It’s like he holds a grudge that she was ever part of the world.

[quote] My Dad hated Shelley Winters.

Maybe he got stuck behind her at a buffet once.

My mother also greatly disliked Jack Nicholson.

I never knew exactly why, but she wouldn't watch any of his movies, no matter how acclaimed he was in the role.

Jack Nicholson is pretty fucking creepy. If after he died it came out that he was a serial killer, I wouldn't be shocked.

My step-mom hated Donald Trump. Starting in the 1980’s. She died before he came president, and that’s probably good because she was Democrat through and through. Trump being elected would have killed her if cancer hadn’t gotten to her first.

On the other hand, my grandma had a huge crush on Robert Mitchum.

Florence Henderson. Dunno exactly why, but my mother never could STAND her, especially when she was on some TV variety show singing. She disliked her acting style. Strangely, though, mm enjoyed Flo's oil (i.e., Wesson--go figure. lol)

[quote] My mom and I would laugh our asses off at Jeri Jewel on Facts of Life

Even I would have fired Molly Ringwald for her and Jo.

My mom and I used to go to Hardee’s drive-thru at night and pretend we had MD like cousin Jeri. We’d put on a good act then laugh our asses off as soon as we left the drive thru.

So most of you are NOT from New York? Ewwww

Some of us have relatives from there.

Britney Spears. When that Pepsi commercial from 1999 or 2000 came out, my mom said "she's gonna take her pants off now".

Your mother has good taste, R97.

My mother hated Bob Barker. I never really understood why.

Then again, I had extreme hatred for Dick Clark, and I can’t really explain why.

My dad hated Joan Rivers, and he couldn’t believe it when I went to see her in concert in 1984. I was 16 and my mom liked her and bought the ticket for me.

My mom always disliked Cher ("All she can do is yell!"). And she deliberately calls her "that Chur".

My dad had a pathological hatred for Italian American celebs, except for Frank Sinatra. He especially hated character actor Don Gordon because he got most of his acting jobs courtesy of his BFF Steve McQueen. He hated Mario Lanza and thought that Connie Francis was ugly.

R98, agreed. And thank you!

My mom and I watched Cagney & Lacey every week. I think she must have said “those two are lesbian lovers” 1000 times during our time watching the show.

She should have seen it when Meg Foster was on it.

These responses are absolutely hilarious.

R79 I posted upthread that my father hated them too. He would start cursing and calling them sons of bitches. No one else on TV got him that riled up.

[quote]r91 On the other hand, my grandma had a huge crush on Robert Mitchum.

He’s the sexiest man (ever) alive.

My mom on Jada Smith back in 2000: "god, that woman's mouth never stops, she just doesn't shut up!"

[quote]My Miom didn't like Robert Mitchum, Kirk Douglas or Lee Marvin. She felt they looked like rapists.

My mother also hates Robert Mitchum and Kirk Douglas, I wonder if it's for the same reason. She also hates Richard Mulligan.

Gee, you think?

My mom hates Victor Mature and Burt Lancaster

My mom disliked Judy Garland. She would say I wouldn’t cross the street to see anyone she didn’t like. I once asked her if she would rather listen to Judy or Diana Ross and she said Diana even though she generally didn’t care for black singers, so I knew how much she disliked Judy. She said Judy might be the better singer, but she didn’t care for her voice at all.

My mom hates Jennifer Aniston, Rachael Ray, Anna Nicole Smith, Michael Jackson, Justin Bieber, The Beatles, Roseanne Barr, Elton John, Dr. Phil

My dad hates Fran Drescher, Cher, Taylor Swift, Axl Rose, Kanye West, Miley Cyrus, Logan Paul

My mother was never really a fan of female comedians: Joan Rivers, Phyllis Diller, Carol Burnett, and so on. She found them all rather crass.

My mother referred to Patty Duke as "Patty Puke". She could not stand Naomi Judd and and would comment on how "that woman can't sing but she sure knows how to make an ass out of herself." She met Grace Slick once and commented afterward on what a pig she was. She LOATHED Kathy Lee Gifford and the way she always went on about her fucking kids, yet Mom never missed an episode. She was hate-watching before it was a thing!

My mom also hated Judy Garland. Something about how Judy's vibrato annoyed her. Her go to phrase was: "If she was singing for shit, she wouldn't get a smell."

My grandmother once told me that she didn't like "that Burt Reynolds" because he was "shacking up with Loni Anderson". It's weird how attuned the different generations used to be to celebrity culture. Maybe because we all watched the same 3 networks.

I can read a gossip column like "TMZ" today and not recognize a single person mentioned in it.

R113, your parents are very woke. They hate different celebs of all colors!!!

My mom hates the Kardashians. She has said 1000 times "why does god give money to people like THIS!". She also finds it obscene that her own mother was providing her guidance on how to pose nude and what poses to make.

Mick Jagger, Jackie Gleason, Jerry Lee Lewis and Tom Jones are the ones I remember being most disliked.

My Mom met Terry Bradshaw at a dinner party in the late 70s, and to this DAY... Won't stop talking about what an "Uncouth, dumbass fucking rube" he was.

I also remember my Dad telling me Richard Gere was a "Smarmy, no-talent cocksucker".

I cannot remember if my folks hated anybody. Y’all got some hateful parents!

Ok first I'm old - this was the 1960s. I had a small black-and-white tv in my room and was told I could not watch the Sammy Davis Jr. talk show (because he was black and this was Mississippi.) Well, I watched it anyway and my stepfather took my tv away from me. Not that I cared much - I never liked The Brady Bunch kind of shit, even when I was 12.

Maybe it was Sammy in particular because of his white Swedish wife? In any case, same stepfather loved Redd Foxx in Sanford and Son.

My father hated Martha Raye because she had apparently sexually harassed him when he was in the US Army in the Korean War, and she was on a USO tour.

My parents both hated Frank SInatra (too mobby, womanizer, etc.). My Dad couldn't stand Victor Manure (that's what he called him), plus most NY actors of that time period (late 40s/early 50s): Kirk Douglas and Burt Lancaster (he wouldn't watch any westerns or any other movies they were in) as well as Brando.

My mother hated Robert Goulet because she thought he was too conceited.

My mother detested slutty Debralee Scott so much, I feel it my duty to put her in this thread, too.

I can't think of any celebrities my mother hated, which is weird because she hated everyone in real life. My father hated Steve Martin for no particular reason.

My dad called certain actors by ridiculous names, but he actually liked them: Gary Chickencooper and Burt Lambaster.

My father, who quite literally lost his mind and many of his friends when he publicly came out in support of Adolf Eichmann, gloated over the deaths of JFK, MLK, RFK and Malcolm X. I was very young and didn't understand any of it, but I certainly understood that he was very sick by the time John Lennon was shot. We were mostly estranged by then.

This thread is making me laugh like a loon.

My mother always hated republicans. " Always remember honey, they are EVIL, every last one of them ." I do not think my mother could have handled Trump. She would have had a breakdown.

[quote]My father hated Martha Raye because she had apparently sexually harassed him when he was in the US Army in the Korean War, and she was on a USO tour.

I bet Martha gave a mean blowjob when she took those dentures out. But maybe your father didn't like women without teeth.

My Mom couldn't pronounce "Swoosie Kurtz." She called her "Susie Squirts."

She also thought Camilla Parker-Bowles was "Carmela Bowels."

She would make up variations on a name if she didn't like the celebrity or didn't like their name. Otherwise, she was highly literate.

My father hated Gil Gerard. Maybe he sensed I had a crush on him but whether that's accurate or not, when "Buck Rogers in the 25th Century" would come on my Dad would call it, "Buck Rogers in His Twenty-Five Dollar Giirdle".

My mom hated Joan Lunden but she liked Charlie Gibson, so we still watched Good Morning America over breakfast. She also thought Laura Dern was only successful because of nepotism.

My parents hate Courtney Love. They got super upset on Phil Collins’ behalf when Courtney presented him with an award. That just made me want to listen to hole 😉.

My father lost his temper the first time he heard Beck’s “Loser” - “awful song, awful message, awful singer”

If we're including politicians and the politically adjacent, my mother had an irrational hate boner for Rosalynn Carter. "That little twit can't wait to get her bony butt into the White House!"

Almost forgot: I went through a serious Farrah Fawcett diva-worship phase, and my cunty little sister used to troll me by calling her "Square-Headed Fright Face."

One more thing and I'll stop: My mom inexplicably LOVED Kim Kardashian and watched KUWTC faithfully in her late 70s: "She's as beautiful as Elizabeth Taylor, but she's so humble and sweet!"

I was thinking my mom didn't dislike anyone but politicians, but then I remember how angry she would get at Peggy Fleming's figure skating commentaries. "She just likes girls who skate like SHE did, who make stupid flowery, flowing, 'graceful' movements," my mom would say, whenever Peggy would diss Elayne Zayek or Surya Bonely, "She HATES girls who are actual athletes, and that's because she's envious!"

My mom was right.

My mom's disgusted take on Kate Bush's "Wuthering Heights" when she came in to my room with my laundry when I was 17: "That sounds like child porn!"

My Mom couldn't stand Frank Sinatra. "He calls women 'broads'"

My grandfather hated Chuck Connors and called him "tit lip" because of a bump on his lip. My dad howled with laughter when I mentioned it at the dinner table.

If I played a song by a female singer, my Mom would warn me, "I don't want any sick woman singers!"

r138 I am with your dad! Loser came out when I was in Highschool. My ex and his then gf looovvved becks, Loser "Just so edgy and true teen angst" Made me want to scream hearing it. Beck has so many better songs later on.

No one liked that cunt Linda Lavin and her horrid “singing“, right?

Both my parents, who are polar opposites, hated Florence Henderson. Dad also hated Joan Rivers for her gay friendliness. I pointed out (I was like 10) that she was making gay jokes; he told me, angrily, she’s making jokes because she’s on their side.

My sister went on a rant about Shirley Temple, saying she was a bitch & she hated her, so our grandma slapped her!

My father loathed Lucille Ball’s fake cry schtick. It got on his last nerve. And since she did it on every fucking episode of ILL, he went out and drove around when the show was on.

And no one was on the streets. He had them to himself. Because everyone was home watching ILL.

[quote]Whenever Brenda Vaccarro's commercials for Playtex would air, my mother would yell, "That woman should be shot!"

Bren seems a little long in the tooth to be selling tampons, no?

You realize he’s not talking about yesterday, don’t you Rose?

R153 she looked old in the commercial. What was she buying tampons for? To soak in sherry and stick ip her butthole for a quick buzz?

Dad hated Rush Limbaugh, oddly enough, even though he has Neanderthal political views himself. Mom disliked anyone with a British accent, and I still don’t know why. I’m an Anglophile myself.

This thread answers sooooooooo many questions here.

My mother hated Al Gore. At any mention of his name she would toss her head and dramatically announce “I HATE AL Gore’”

I do the same thing when I hear any mention of Trump, MTG, Greg Abbott etc., so I guess it made an impression.

Which questions were thoooooooose r156?

[quote]I do the same thing when I hear any mention of Trump, MTG, Greg Abbott etc., so I guess it made an impression.

Only if you also toss your head dramatically r157.

This wasn't hatred exactly, but my mother was unable to conceive that an actor playing gay wasn't necessarily gay in real life. Robert Preston was gay because of his role in Victor/Victoria, despite his long marriage and numerous kids. Billy Crystal was gay because he played Jodie. Any time he was in a movie or TV show after that, she called him "that little fruit." Yes, it was fucked up but sadly common back then.

My father could not stand Lauren Bacall. For my mother, it was Bette Davis.

Cannot explain it

My mother always claims her family despised Claude Rains because "he played weak characters."

There seems to be a lot of hatred of Lucy by mothers. My mother also hated Lucy.

When I was a kid we would watch the old reruns of I Love Lucy, and I would just howl with laughter, and my mother would say, "I don't really find that funny."

My mom LOATHED the Solid Gold Dancers, especially the star one with the braids who got all the solos - 'she likes the attention a little too much!'

Your mom hated Darcel?

What is she, a godless heathen communist?

She was. The rest of my family WORSHIPPED Darcel (thank you for remembering her name!)

Darcel is married to Glenn Leonard, formerly of The Temptations

In 1982, I bought a VCR with money from my after school job. The first video-cassette I bought was the video album of PHYSICAL by Olivia Newton-John.

You'd think my parents would be thrilled to see their obviously gay son with a tape of a "hot woman."

But, no, my Dad went on a tirade. "You see her earrings, son? One long and one short! That means she's a dyke! That's their secret symbol!"

So, Olivia was furthering my entry into GayLand with these PHYSICAL videos.

I recorded her Solid Gold performance of "Make A Move On Me," and Dad said her pirate shirt was also a lesbian indicator.

Dad used to drive a truck from Austin to Los Angeles every week, so he knew all of the secret gay symbols, apparently.

Remembered another one of the objects of my mother’s scorn (besides the aforementioned Kathie Lee Gifford, Lauren Bacall, Phyllis Newman, James Caan and Dixie Carter):

One time we were watching “The Mike Douglas Show”, (yes, I’m that old!) and Ms. Lola Falana was introduced. After a sizzling song and dance, she sat down with the host. After commenting on her beauty, Douglas asked about her lineage. “I’m Italian!” she proudly announced.

“What?!” my mother (who was actually Italian herself) screeched. “What part of Italy is SHE from?!”

A few years later, Falana appeared in some PSAs that ended with her batting her doe eyes into the camera and imploring viewers to “do it for Lola!” Mom used to sniff, “There’s that Italian!”

Snooki

It was common in the 50s to watch What's My Line with family and friends every Sunday night, and every Sunday night Dorothy Kilgallen would always draw the most comments, many of them negative.

Watching reruns now on YouTube I can't fathom the animosity she attracted. She's wonderful.

r154, Brenda Vaccaro had just turned 40 when she started doing the ads for Playtex in 1980.

Keith Richards.

My dad couldn't handle Tom Cruise and his 'tyrannosaurus arms'.

Hatred for Dorothy Kilgallen is idiotic. She was well-spoken, well-dressed, and 100% the sharpest panelist: the Nancy Drew of classic TV. I can totally buy that she was killed because she dug up too much dirt re: the Jack Kennedy assassination. She was *very* smart.

My Aunt Ottilia hated Dorothy Kilgallen, too!

However, she LOVED Arlene Francis in the Early 1970s episodes with her sleeveless tops and skirts. My aunt copied that look.

I’m shocked, by my possibly flawed quick reading of this thread, no one has said Charo! Now that’s someone the whole family could get behind.

Tiffany "New York" Pollard. They thought she was a trashy whore.

Not to get all MARY, but I feel sorry for all of you who grew up with such openly homophobic parents. Calling people "dykes" and "fruits" in front of your kids is just terrible.

Dad would say "lezzy" as well as "dyke."

Was that less terrible?

My parents were raised on MGM and Technicolor. Anyone who wasn’t conventionally beautiful was fair game, doubly so if they were flat chested women. Farrah Fawcett comes to mind.

My mother hated Tony Bennett and for some bizarre reason would always say he had syphilis. I have no idea where she got that.

Rula Lenska was my grandmother's bane. "Who's this British snot rag?!' "I don't give a fig who she think she is, I'm not buying Alberto's Vo5 BECAUSE of her!'

r182 Maybe he gave it to her.

My Mom hated that red-headed whiny woman on all of the 70s game shows. She had some hideous husband on TattleTales.

Patti???

Dad hated CNR, duh.

r184 Maybe he did. I never thought to ask!

R101, my parents hated Sinatra. Especially when he’d make jokes about Sammy Davis Jr.’s skin color. Whenever they did shows. And they hated Sammy more for lapping it up.

My dad despises Pat Sajak.

Mom hated Barbara Eden (and I Dream of Jeannie). I think it might have been because my dad thought she was hot. The aforementioned Charo (annoying, phony and manic) and Bonnie Franklin (she overacts). And she always hated Jerry Lewis and his shtick, especially the nutty professor. Nowadays she always mentions how much she doesn’t like The Dave Matthews Band (their music is so boring, I wouldn’t cross the street to see them).

R113 your mother and I share the same dislikes!

Lol r168! Ur dad was reading way too much into it! The whole Pirate Movie, Adam Ant look was very popular in 81 and 82!

R175 Kerry Kollmar had a blog once…it’s still up. You get some sense of the killgallen / kollmar brand of restrained crazy.

My father hated Kirstie Alley for kissing a black man in the North & South mini-series.

I fucking hate her for different reasons today.

R182, my mother used to say that same thing, but later after I’d moved out & I didn’t care what she thought. Here’s what you need to know! (Ha, ha)

Totie Fields. My mother never forgave her for losing a leg.

In our household:

Jerry Lewis. Too Jewish.

Sammy Davis. Don't even go there.

Bill Cosby, when he kissed a woman on "I Spy." You really don't want to know the reaction.

I wish my parents had been as hateful of all the substandard crap they have shoved in our faces over the past quarter century or more. How lucky some of the rest of you were to live when you lived.

This thread has me laughing my ass off. What a great topic. And I love some of your parents.

My mom on Frankie Grande: "he's too much".

Some of you come from really hateful households.

My mom used to think Billy Corgan had the ugliest singing voice of all time.

Worse than Courtney Love's singing voice?!

r200 = Jesus.

My mother hated Gloria Estefan. Well, THAT Gloria Estefan, as she used to call her, as if there were several Gloria Estefans running around our house and she needed to clarify which one she hated. ("THAT ONE!"). She'd walk In my room and I'd be playing a Miami Sound Machine album and she'd make a face and say, "Is this more of that Gloria Estefan?" (And she'd pronounce "fahn", "fan" and also sometimes add a "d" so it would become "that Gloria Estefand." "That Gloria Estefand...how'd she get a recording contract? I've seen better singers at sweet sixteen parties than that Gloria Estefand!"

Mom also disliked Barbara McNair - she found her to be phony.

[quote] My grandmother hated Nanette Fabray. “With a nose like that you could drown in a rainstorm!”

So far this is my very favorite comment. But there are so many.

My mother always flew into a tizzy any time Freddy Fender was played on the radio, or if anyone ever mentioned him. She actually owned an 8-track tape of his music, so I never asked her why. I'm guessing the issue was Mexican-themed...

My Mom despised Helen Reddy in the Seventies.

Not only did she hate Helen's voice, she hated "all of her Crazy Woman songs! They're so depressing!"

"Angie Baby"

"Leave Me Alone (Ruby Red Dress)"

"Delta Dawn"

Of course, I LOVED all those songs! Mom would switch the radio station immediately when she knew a Helen song was starting.

My grandmother really disliked Danny Kaye and Tim Conway for reasons unknown.

My mom hated Arnold Schwarzenegger and Sly Stallone for the macho posturing.

Mom hated Italian women (Sophia Loren, Gina Lollibrigida) children of Italian men (Liza, Isabella Rosallini), most known Catholics, and all effeminate men.

I choose to believe her first crush was an Italian closet case who joined the priesthood and had a mean sister.

My dad hated anyone who was caught doing "the dope".

Red Skelton. Totally unfunny. I agree.

R169, your momma was right, Lola Falana was as Italian as a bucket of chitlins.

[quote]I’m shocked, by my possibly flawed quick reading of this thread, no one has said Charo! Now that’s someone the whole family could get behind.

[quote]The aforementioned Charo (annoying, phony and manic)

My mother used to randomly roll her r's and say "cuchi cuchi."

*this was resurrected a few months ago when Pluto TV started showing Love Boat reruns*

R200 judge not lest ye be judged.

R214, the Bible verse is “Judge not, lest ye be judged, TOOTS”

[quote] Some of you come from really hateful households.

You sound boring.

To lead on from another thread, my Mother hated Cilla Black after she said that the cunt Mrs. Thatcher [BOLD] [ITALIC] ‘put the Great back in Great Britain’. [/ITALIC] [/BOLD]

My Mother bought 100 copies of 'Hey Ho The Witch is Dead' after Thatcher died to get it to top the UK charts

You should’ve saved it for when Tony Blair dies.

Tony Blair was annoying and childish, Thatcher was evil.

My dad could not STAND Leonardo DiCaprio - after watching "This Boy's Life" one too many times in reruns (thanks for nothing HBO) Dad thereafter referred to DiCaprio as "that little cryin' cocksucka".

My father had a visceral dislike of Julie Andrews, he would never say why nor did he even want to see her.

I wouldn't say "hate" exactly, but my mom disliked Tom Jones, and swore that he stuffed his underwear to make his bulge look big.

She didn't like Joan Rivers (I'm talking early 70's Joan Rivers). She thought she was vulgar, making jokes about girdles and things like that.

The one she hated the most, though, was Lily Tomlin. She couldn't stand to even be in the room when she was on TV, especially when she did her character "Edith Ann", the little girl in the oversized rocking chair.

One time she got up and walked out pretty upset, and my older sister asked our dad what was up, why the stick up her ass about Lily Tomlin. Dad explained that before we came into the picture, they'd had a baby daughter that was born with birth defects and only lived about a week...and her name was, you guessed it, "Edith Ann".

I remember my sister and I just looked at each other dumbfounded, like, "what...the...fuck???". We were already like 8 and 9 years old, maybe older, and this was the first we'd ever heard of this dead baby thing. It just completely blew both of our minds.

My parents were more appreciators, than haters, of talented people. I can't think of anybody in show business my dad outright hated. My mom couldn't stand Milton Berle (my dad loved him), wasn't a big fan of Red Skelton, and didn't like Jerry Lewis. Mom also couldn't stand Jayne Meadows (phony). She "never really cared for" Lana Turner.

My grandmother had a major stroke and couldn't talk very well. Whenever I mentioned Gloria Swanson (which as a little gay kid, I sometimes did), she would stroke her chin and say "horse".

R221: maybe his pancreas could not take the abuse.

[quote]Some of you come from really hateful households

Here, don't come sit by me.

My mom and dad saw Martha Raye at a club in Salisbury Beach (MA) in the 50s. My mom always said it was really dirty. She didn't hate her but it was more like "She's so talented, why would she have to do material like that?" My mom also hated Foster Brooks.

Very true r117. Back in the day even my grandparents knew who then-current celebrities like Prince, Madonna and Tom Cruise were, even though my grandparents were two generations removed from them.. I'm in my forties now so I'm still relatively young and when I look at the magazine covers at the checkout I have no idea who the fuck half the people are. When I look at the music charts and see the top 10 singles I might recognize one or two singers but have no idea who the others are.

My mother saying, to name a few: “Joan Collins? You mean the poor man’s Elizabeth Taylor?” “Jayne Mansfield? Her? She’s…she’s not serious…she’s nothing.” “Ann-Margret? She never looked the same after her accident.” “Jamie Lee Curtis? She doesn’t have her mother’s bust.”

R222 that’s a fucked up memory. I love it.

R215 do not cast your pearls before swine, honey chile.

My mother disliked Sinatra and most of the Rat Pack, but children's programming really drew her ire.

She could not abide Soupy Sales.

She hated Jimmy from the Mickey Mouse Club and disliked the show in general.

She had a deep loathing for her memories of the Howdy Doody Show. We never saw it, but she regaled us with memories of watching it as a child and hating it. And taught us the song: "It's Howdy Doody time! The show's not worth a dime. And here is Buffalo Bob...who should have lost his job. And here is Clarabelle...who ought to burn in hell..." etc.

She hated the Electric Company - she thought it was shrill, hateful and violent - but let us watch Sesame Street. Mr. Rogers got on her nerves, although she respected him as a person.

She never minded cartoons, but she preferred we watch the Golden Age classics (Bugs Bunny, Tom & Jerry, etc.) and we never watched Hanna Barbara (except for Scooby-Doo, which was somehow acceptable). There was one exception - Woody Woodpecker. At the sound of his famous laugh, she would scream "turn off that damn pecker!"

It was years before we caught on.

[quote]My mom hated "perfect" TV mothers like Florence Henderson and Doris Day (not sure how she felt about Doris' other body of work) For some reason she loved all the spunky single gals of the seventies like MTM and Valerie Harper.

Sounds like my mom. My mother did not like Cher or Farrah.

My father disliked JFK. Whenever somebody brought him up in front of Dad, he'd say "His father paid off Daley to buy him the presidency, you know."

[quote]My father could not stand Lauren Bacall. For my mother, it was Bette Davis.

[quote]Cannot explain it

It needs no explanation.

[quote]She hated Jimmy from the Mickey Mouse Club and disliked the show in general.

That must be why he died young of a heart condition.

Not an entertainer, but the American Red Cross was the target of my Dad's unending vitriol for having sold stuff marked "Donated by the People of the United States" to GIs in Europe during WWII.

Mamma always said that Pickford girl was uppity.

My mother despised Morton Downey, Jr., who had a nationally syndicated talk show that ran 1987-89.

She talked incessantly about how horrible Downey was. Said he was so rude and looked repellent. To her, Morton Downey was the absolute scum of the earth. She worked her hatred of him into many a conversation regardless of what the original topic of the conversation was.

Yet she watched the Morton Downey Show religiously. More than once, I suggested that if the man caused her so much ire that perhaps she shouldn't watch the show. She always looked at me like I had three heads when I said that. She kept watching and kept complaining about him.

I guess she was "hate watching" the show, back before that term had been invented.

This thread really shows how common and provincial most DLers are.

R216 = Steve Bannon

My father called Vince Gill "Vince Squeal" for the entirety of the 90s.

My mother's current hated celebs are the Home Town couple on HGTV. ("Their designs are so fucking boring!")

r130 How could someone possibly like Adolf Eichmann? If you're going to like Nazis, why not just idolize the Fuehrer and Goebbels and the upper Nazi command?

R208 Your mom had a point about the crazy woman songs. Do we add “I am woman” to that list?

My mother hated the Ding-A-Ling Sisters on the Dean Martin Show. Said they were insulting - which I could not grasp at all.

This is certainly one of Datalounge’s least interesting reasons to list the names of stars of yesteryear. Imagine sitting down face to face with someone and they ask this question. I wonder how many people have actually read the 200 responses.

R246, how long has the gerbil been stuck in your colon?

[quote]I wonder how many people have actually read the 200 responses.

*raises hand*

*raises hand as well*

I think it's an interesting way to see how popular tastes changed. If you don't - Greg and his prunes await.

My Jewish great grandmother didn't like Barbra Streisand because she was "too Jewish."

My mother was the speech Nazi. She only liked people on TV and movies who spoke the Queen's English. She hated Southern and New York accents (we're New Yorkers.) When we saw Rocky, my mother rooted for Apollo Creed over Rocky because Rocky's speech was so bad.

My dad disliked Ben Vereen; called him an Uncle Tom. He laughed at him when he read that David Foster ran him over with his car in Malibu.

Darcel Wynne has a great body, but her hairline starts behind her ears.

I'm still confused about why someone's parents disliked The Electric Company for being violent. ??

My father hated my mother loving Robert Conrad's ass.

And he'd tell people something was wrong with her for "staring at William Conrad's butt."

No, he didn't do it on purpose.

Sometimes people on The Electric Company got their ass kicked, R253.

When we were teenagers, Brian De Palma's R rated movie Dressed to Kill was on HBO. During a sex scene, my mother came in the room and informed us we had to come in for dinner next commercial. We had to explain that scenes like this were not on regular TV and HBO had no commercials.

On the other hand, she told us we shouldn't watch Divorce Court. This was reruns of the old 1960s version where if the judge didn't think the couple had sufficient grounds for divorce he'd tell them to go home work it out. After that, lots of yelling and screaming. She didn't forbid us to watch it, just told us she thought it was terrible.

Hey, am I in the right thread?

R222 My mother said the same thing about Tom. She said "that has to be a rolled up sock" in his pants. My grandmother absolutely hated Angela Lansbury in Murder She Wrote. My dad hated John Travolta and called him John Revolta. This was in the 70s during the Welcome Back Kotter and Grease days.

This is the funniest thread running, followed closely by the “Questionable science we learned from our parents” thread. I’ve been cackling at both.

Rami Malek, Cillian Murphy (though she doesn’t always remember who he is), I don’t think she likes Brie Larson lolol.

Ooh, my Mom HATES Brie Larson and Katherine Waterston! AND ScarJo!

My grandmother hated Judge Judy.

R260 Hopefully she won’t be on the jury for the Disney contract law violation trial.

She's on Disney's side, R262.

She said the fat sister in BLACK WIDOW should have gotten more money since she was funny and a better actor than the reviled ScarJo.

[quote] I'm still confused about why someone's parents disliked The Electric Company for being violent. ??

Maybe they had a hunch about Bill Cosby‘s off-screen proclivities.

How does a small town in Maine have the same murder rate per capita as Compton?

My mom hated Michelle Lee and thought she was a slut.

My dad hated Bill Cosby because he heard Cosby molested women.

Dad died in 1992.

R264 R265

[quote] My mom hated Michelle Lee and thought she was a slut.

That must be why all of the Herbie the Love Bug movies after the first one pretended her character never existed, even the one that brought back Dean Jones.

R268.

I remember a lot of women of a certain age who liked the Dinah Shore talk show but thought she was hopeless as a singer.

That’s why she did the talk show instead of going on tour.

My dad didn’t like “unconventionally attractive” female movie stars. Shelley Winters, Barbara Streisand, Bette Davis, Barbara Stanwyck and Anjelica Huston filled him with horror. He liked Liza Minnelli because she was cute and stylish.

He hated one-note English male sexy symbols like Jeremy Irons (morose) and Hugh Grant (stammering) until his his second wind with Florence Foster Jenkins and Paddington 2.

He also hated anyone with jug ears (“Look at them!”, he’d hiss) with the exception of Will Smith, who “has charisma”.

He also rated Oprah Winfrey extremely highly as a dramatic actress and disrespected her “wasting her ability” on a trashy talk show. Imagine his disgust when Whoopi Goldberg ended up on The View.

R271.

I watched the Kennedy assassination television coverage nonstop with my German grandmother. She had been a lady's maid and had no patience with people who were not the right kind of leaders (FDR at the top).

She loathed Lyndon Johnson because he was not trustworthy, she said, every time LBJ appeared on the TV.

But more importantly she hated the way his big ugly ears stuck with his huge earlobes dangled under them.

"He looks like a peasant, a mean peasant," she said.

She would know.

R274, was your grandmother not merely a good cook, but a companion, a comfort, a solace to her ladies?

My stepdad loathed Ann-Margaret, I laughed so hard when the girl on Mad Men was ripping on her in BBB

You can't even spell her name.

My dad LOVED Lily Tomlin and her talent on Laugh-in. He loved Barbara Eden on Jeannie because he thought she was a hot number. He also loved 1960s Lena Horne, but was shy saying it was more than her talent.

He didn't hate, but he expressed displeasure at DL fave Dionne Warwick! Deal with it, bros.

My mom laughed at Dionne Warwick's nostrils. "Ha Ha, look at her nostrils, ha ha!".

[quote] This thread really shows how common and provincial most DLers are.

QUeen Elizabeth the second has entered the thread. Any gossips about Harry?

[quote] I wonder how many people have actually read the 200 responses.

I did. I’ve laughed out loud at least a dozen times, and been reminded of names i haven’t heard in decades. Threads like this are why many of us come here.

Of course, it’s not a great thread without someone like you coming in the roll their eyes and express their elevated sensibilities. Here’s a hint: piss off! You won’t be missed.

In 1970 or 71 when I was 10 I was watching the news with my Mexican grandma. The anchor was this Latina with long dark hair. We're watching and out of nowhere my grandma goes "Eee, her hair doesn't even shine."

That made me laugh and smile, R282!

I even heard Abuela's voice!

What’s with the blank replies referencing a previous poster but not what they said? See r273.

R284--the poster is St. Peter and he's announcing who is to report to the pearly gates for immediate entry, while dressed in his grim reaper uniform.

I’ve read this whole thread too. I even saw a post by somebody whose grandmother also hated Danny Kaye like mine did. If you’re reading this, do you know why?

My mother HATED Slim Goodbody. He offended her deeply. I didn’t understand at the time. There was a Slim Goodbody book for sale in a store and she turned it around so other people wouldn’t have to look at “that asshole in the veiny leotard”.

She was right. Disgusting.

My father called Dionne Warwick "Skullface." I don't think he disliked her singing, just her face.

R240 yes, due to their provincial lineage

Neither examples are my parents, but whatever.

My aunt (a psychiatrist) detested the character of 'Sophia Petrillo' on THE GOLDEN GIRLS. That is why she couldn't watch it. She said that 'Sophia' exhibited many of the symptoms associated with Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

My grandfather couldn't stand Barbra Streisand, which was funny because my grandmother adored her. She watched any movie of hers and even owned her music. My grandfather's major beef with Streisand was that she often tried to portray herself as the hot chick. He said that all of her films had similar ugly duckling themes, and it really annoyed him that she couldn't pull off the transformation at the end. He said she was still hideous and he couldn't pretend that she wasn't.

My great-aunt was a teenager throughout the 1920s and recalled her father/brothers hating on Rudolph Valentino. They called him a sissy and said he wore too much makeup. Her father, in particular, hated that he was being promoted as some symbol of masculinity. He preferred Douglas Fairbanks, who he said was a true masculine man.

[quote]She had been a lady's maid and had no patience with people who were not the right kind of leaders (FDR at the top). Yeah, her right kind of leader was Hitler

[quote]My grandfather's major beef with Streisand was that she often tried to portray herself as the hot chick. He said that all of her films had similar ugly duckling themes, and it really annoyed him that she couldn't pull off the transformation at the end. He said she was still hideous and he couldn't pretend that she wasn't.

R290 - I'm with your grandfather (I'm old enough to be one).

I'm sure there were lots of people my mother didn't care for but the one that sticks out is Ronald Reagan. She loathed him. Every time she saw him on TV she's spit out the Italian equivalent of "dick face."

OMG 125. RU my other brother from my mother?? She always called Victor Mature, Victor Manure. Hated his acting sooo much.

We're from N. Jersey(I know, I know.. stop with the wisecracks OK?). She hated Sinatra w. the fire of a thousand suns. My mom was Gorgeous, in fact a real genuine beauty queen, but was well umm a bit dodgy shall we say. She led a Very Interesting life. Not sure exactly how intimately she knew Frank, but she sure leaked loads of stuff as she got older & much of it proved to be true. My dad looks wise was a combo of Gable & Flynn. She always said that's why she married him. She totally adored both actors.

She said Streisand was Great ask Fanny B., who she adored as well.

My cousin hated Judy. Then Judy married Deans who my cousin grew up with. Deans just showed up at her house one nite w. Judy. They sat down & had dinner w. the fam. Just the usual Wed. nite meatball & spaghetti. Judy TOTALLY charmed my cousin, loved the dinner & was so gracious that nite & afterwards. My cousin was just heartbroken when Judy died. She said Judy was a real star who finally got to be in heavens where she belonged.

My mother loathed Cloris Leachman for some anti-fat people comments she supposedly made at some point.

My mother also did not like Jane Fonda because of the Vietnam War issue. She'd say "you don't help the other side." I don't know that she would still feel that way, as she was very against the Bush Mideast wars.

My grandfather HATED Al Sharpton in the 1980s. (We were Jews)

Eeeeeeeeeee

Dad hated Frank Sinatra since he'd heard that Sinatra had his goons beat up a man in a bar because Frank wanted to go home with the man's wife.

He also called Bette Midler "hard to look at" during her Divine Miss M days.

In general, he hated soap operas because they taught "bad morals."

Maybe if Michelle Lee hadn't been such a slut your mother wouldn't have hated her.

R296 = Linda Lavin

R287, I hated slim goodbody too. He was creepy.

If you wanted a robot to rape your children, what would you do worse?

Glad I'm not the only one who questions whether that guy should have been trusted around children, even by the standards of the 1970s when they were apparently pretty lax about that.

R299, I always trust men more than women.

The '70s were pretty open about everything after the sexual revolution of the '60s. I remember as a kid in the '80s inheriting a '70s children's book called WHAT IS A BOY? WHAT IS A GIRL? It even included photographs of naked children. My favorite was the end of the book: one page had a fully-naked grown woman; the other page had a naked man. Of course, I paid attention to the latter. I remember repeatedly staring at his handsome face and meaty cock. I even recall some of what was written on the page. The man's name was Gary and it said something like, "When Gary grew up, he grew hair on his body and his penis got bigger." Looking back, I can't believe such a book existed for children. 😂

R301, here's a link to a pdf copy. It would get cancelled today, but for different reasons.

Like what, not denying material reality?

Exactly.

My father considered poet Ezra Pound a traitor and Ernest Hemingway a blowhard.

My mother couldn't abide Fred Astaire or Jackie Gleason.

R302 OMG! It's been over 30 years since I saw that book. Wow. I don't know how to process this. I honestly didn't think I'd see it again. LOL! Thanks for that blast from the past! Gary is still as handsome as I remember him. 😍

My grandfather hated John Wayne, Muhammad Ali, and Michael Jackson. I don’t even remember my grandmother using the word “hate.”

Barbra Streisand Frank Sinatra

My father used to complain when I was a kid that the shows I watched on television were crap, yet he never had a word to say against the even worse shows my younger sisters watched.

R309 why do you suppose?

Growing up, I'd listen to my dad's less-than-favourable thoughts about celebrities like Rosie O'Donnell and Bette Midler. They are both women who aren't conventionally beautiful or thin and have loud, opinionated personalities. I still love my dad though, even though I think he's a little less evolved on this front. He's actually a very sweet guy.

Interestingly, I can't recall any opinions my mother has about celebrities. But, I know she has them. She speaks her mind about everything else.

Let’s just say anybody who complains about the Facts of Life, which he once actively tried to forbid me from watching, but lets That’s So Raven off the hook is a hypocrite not to be trusted.

My grandmother disliked soap operas and resented the fact that so many of her female friends were devoted to them. Conversely, she thought Tootsie and Soapdish were hysterically funny, in a very large part because they lampooned the soaps.

One day my sister and I were discussing a role played by Robert Downey Jr. and my grandmother went off on him, calling him every (19th century) name in the book. It took us a while to realize that she had confused him with Morton Downey Jr. We corrected her, saying "Grammy, Robert Downey Jr. is that young man in Soapdish." She corrected herself - and then looked at us very conspiratorially - she must have been close to 90 at this point - and said:

"Mind you, a young man is never that pretty without trouble to deal with at some point or another."

She was pretty sharp.

Did she figure out why it was called “Mr. fuzzy“ before everyone else did?

Oh, my mother hated soap operas, too; I adored them and dreamed of being a soap writer when I grew up; but she would “tsk tsk tsk” and grumble “how can you watch that crap?”

I never became a soap writer.

No idea, R314. Perhaps. She was a pretty remarkable woman - a doctor during the 1940s, an early proponent of abortion rights, a woman who took air flight lessons in her youth. Yet she was a Republican who hated the Kennedys.

We have pictures of her as a very young woman sunbathing topless with a bunch of medical professors (back when nudity was thought life-affirming healthy activity).

When I knew her as a child, she wore sable, drove a 1951 Mercedes and had a tiny French poodle who lived in a hatbox.

Go figure.

Sad but I think there's a tendency for people to dislike or even hate people because they're ugly, especially on tv or in the movies - because they don't "deserve" to be there.

Maybe the mom upthread who hated Danny Kaye - that could be a factor. He certainly didn't have matinee idol looks.

I can’t wait to see what this thread looks like in a generation when the children of gay parents grow up.

Back in the 1960's, my late mother hated Donna Reed. I don't think it was as much Donna as it was the always tidy house, perfectly coiffed hair and designer clothes with the inevitable pearls while she played housewife on her show. All this while my mother was now in a very unhappy marriage, with a brat of a step-daughter, a sickly baby (me) and seemingly no way out.

[quote]Sad but I think there's a tendency for people to dislike or even hate people because they're ugly, especially on tv or in the movies - because they don't "deserve" to be there.

To be fair, people in general prefer to gaze at beautiful things. Be it people, scenery, landscapes, architecture, etc. Especially if it's projected on a big screen.

I struggle to not fixate on Amy Schumer's looks - I think it's because she acts like she's beautiful instead of sort of acknowledging her looks, he way Joan Rivers did (though I think Joan was much better looking - attractive, I'd even say).

It's weird. I'm ok with Danny DeVito or Penny Marshall or any of a slew of average to ugly people - depending on how they present themselves. With humor - or with arrogance (see Barbra the Shnozz).

Joan Rivers said when wrapping up a stint as a guest on Carson (Johnny was hosting) have you seen Brenda Vaccaro? she lowered her voice and declared "I LOVE TAMPONS!" Johnny lost it and Joan laughed.

How sad that Johnny and Joan had such a bad split b/c he was fearful she'd dethrone him.

I've read the whole thread but I haven't laughed, guffawed, chortled, or cackled once. I don't know what's wrong with me. But then I think a lot of these parents sound like they hated everyone. They must have been a joy to be around. I hope they got help for their depression.

R317, it’s “ugly” people who act like they’re hot that annoys people, as r321 identified.

No one minds quirky looking character actors like Steve Buscemi or Danny De Vito. Or even non-pretty people with a potent charisma like Humphrey Bogart. You can understand why Billy Bob Thornton attracted so many beautiful women.

But when Felicity Huffman tries to sell herself as a sexy blonde, or Tori Spelling, eyebrows are raised.

Not a parent, but my great aunt, who was well into her 80’s at the time, utterly despised Ronald Reagan. Called him “that man” and would change the channel when he appeared on TV. “I can’t stand that man!”

[quote} My father has always hated Bill Cosby and John Travolta.

Two peas in a pod

My grandmother hated Brooke Logan from 'The Bold And The Beautiful.'

She never called her "that slut from the Valley," but Granny really hated Brooke.

She loved Stephanie and Sally Spectra. And Dr. Taylor Hayes.

In current times, on DAYS, my mother hates Lani, Allie, Chloe, Nicole, and Kristen, but loves Susan, Ben, Sami, and especially Dr. Marlena Evans.

My parents hated Madeline Kahn, because she wasn't nice.

Barbra should have given some of her extra (misplaced) confidence to Madeline, who was convinced she was ugly and hypersensitive about it. They might have balanced each other out.

My mother hated everyone. But she really hated

Marlo Thomas - would be working in a department store if it weren’t for her no-talent father. Look at that stump of a nose on her face. I’s sue the dr who did that amputation!

Bonnie Franklin - that cross eyed chipmunk. Who’s she related to? She didn5 get that job because of talent or who she slept with because no man would want to have sex with that

Linda Lavin: prizefighter. Hoe else did she get that jaw?

Ali McGraw: That’s a man. A man who can’t act.

MIck Jagger: those liver lips. Ugh, (visibly shuddered)

James Brown: that’s not even human

Dionne Warwick: Doesnt she make enough money to get those buck teeth fixed?

Peggy Lee: Thar woman is dead. She’s been dead & embalmed for 10 years and her agents hires someone to out the body onstage and play a recording.

Sorry for typos. Mom’s a little rusty from the grave

Oh yeah…Charlie Watts: I think that’s the ugliest creature I’ve ever seen. (That was before she saw James Bown)

R321 Barbra has always been beautiful by sheer force of will. I don’t see anything unappealing about her! And what a dish in the 70s!

Also from mom

Marianne Faithfull: She looks mentally retarded. Actually, fully, 100% mentally retarded. They ought to be ashamed of themselves taking advantage of that girl.

Patti Boyd: What’s wrong with her? Why can’t she brush those bangs out of her eyes? She can’t see. Nobody can see with their hair in their eyes like that

Yoko Ono: Where did he get a dog like that? At the pound?

John Lennon in his long haired, granny glasses, naked album cover days: That man is a mental case.

Judy Carne: How do people like this get on television?

Her biggest hate of all, Jackie Onassis: Ooh, my name is Zhock-LEEN. I wear a big wig & big sunglasses on 5th Avenue. I can be spotted a mile away. Then I pretend I hate it when they take my picture. I have no breasts. I’m shaped like a boy, that’s why my husband screwed around. I lived on an island in Greece to get away from publicity, but I missed getting photographed. So I holed up in the middle of remote New York City next to Central Park where no one would think to look for me.

(Mom was a John Birch Republican. A bitter, bitter woman)

R312, the culture trained men to think that women were there for their approval and satisfaction. If she didn't measure up to his liking in appearance, it was expected that he disapprove. If a female didn't agree with him, she was a bitch for having a different opinion. Females at work were subordinates and it was expected that a male boss be demanding and belittling. Even a "nice guy" acted like that, and it spilled over to how they evaluated female celebrities.

Things have changed drastically since that time, and I'm glad ;)

My mom's comments on various celebrities that I can remember.

Anna Nicole Smith: "a gold digging whore"

Marilyn Monroe: "She's a whore. She slept with a married man, didn't she?"

Michael Jackson ("Miss Michael"): "a freak who molested little boys."

Vincent Price: "I can't stand him."

Dr. Phil: "He's always so high up on his pedestal. He acts like he knows everything and has never made a mistake in his life."

Wendy Williams: "Big mouth," "I can't stand to watch her," "She looks so much like a man. Are you sure she's not transgender?"

Roseanne: (When she was running for president and my brother jokingly said he was going to vote for her) "Women had to fight for the right to vote. I'll feel like you'll be spitting in my face if you waste your vote on a big-mouthed moron like her."

R335 And "Miss Michael" was her nickname for him due to his feminine appearance and behaviors.

R321, a lot of the evaluations of women as being ugly is also about them being Jewish. If they "look Jewish," they must be ugly. I'm no Streisand worshipper, but she was the first Jewish star who didn't apologize for it. Being a woman, this crime was far more offensive than if a man acted the same way. And of Streisand only played silly side-kick roles, her schnoz wouldn't be as off-putting to some.

R322, I saw that Tonight Show with Joan Rivers doing Brenda Vaccaro in 1980 or so, I still laugh at the memory of it.

[quote]I'm no Streisand worshipper, but she was the first Jewish star who didn't apologize for it.

Just curious, when did stars like John Garfield, Sylvia Sidney, Gertrude Berg, Fanny Brice, and so forth apologize for being Jewish?

My mother disliked Virginia Graham. Especially her hatlike coiffure. But mainly her raspy voice and her brusque manners. She felt that way about Totie Fields as well.

I watched Dark Shadows with my dad and every time they showed Grayson Hall, he said "Goddamn. That has got to be the ugliest bitch I've ever seen. Who let her on TV?" He didn't like her voice or screams either. And about David Henesy, he called him "an annoying little fucker" and said "When is Barnabas going to kill him?"

R338, none of those other actors used their real name, and Garfield and Sidney are not easily identified as Jewish by looks. Fanny Brice was a comedian, being Jewish was more acceptable. Gertrude Berg was a rotund character radio actress, and on TV for a short series.

Mom didn't like Giselle McKenzie. She also could not STAND the comedian, Sam Levenson. I don't remember him so I don't even know why. She also didn't like the old, dowdy way the Queen of England dressed. She would just shake her head and "tsk." She didn't like Monte Rock III and really disliked Professor Irwin Corey.

Around the time Love Story came out, my father just COULD NOT get over her crooked front tooth.

R341 Gertrude Berg's married name was Berg. It's a Jewish name. Ther radio series ran for years and the TV show ran for 7 years and there was a movie. In 1959, she won the Tony Award for Best Actress for her performance in the play, A Majority of One. There were other people I could have named -- Rod Steiger, Claire Bloom, Eli Wallach, George Segal.

Streisand also started out as a supporting comedienne. I also think she'd have changed her last name if it had been longer or something like Fishbein or Garfinkle. But I don't know.

I once read that Sylvia Sidney wore her Jewishness like a cross, Streisand work her Jewishness like a badge.

How did Lauren Bacall wear her Jewishness? How about Shelley Winters?

Who wore like a star, a six pointed star?

No one knew Lauren Bacall was Jewish until she told them. You're missing the point of my post, R346.

R324, SJP wins that contest.

Reading this thread has helped me understand why I don't jump on the usual DL hatewagons. My parents didn't react negatively to celebrities the way most people in this thread's parents did. My mother in particular only watched or listened to what she knew she liked, so there wasn't any ragging on celebrities in our house.

R342, I haven't thought of those entertainers in decades!

Those were the days!

R351 I know, right?

My late mother didn't like Oprah. "All they do on that show is talk about how unhappy they are," she would say.

Your Mom was very wise, R353. I fully agree.

R351 Sam Levenson!

My mom didn't hate Janis Joplin so much as she couldn't understand the hype: "I mean, she wasn't pretty and she couldn't sing!"

She really did dislike Bruce Springsteen, though. She felt his mid-80s success was a vast white-wing conspiracy (see what I did there?) to topple the two biggest music stars, Prince and Michael Jackson, from the top of the pop/rock mountain. She called Springsteen "the great white hope."

Mom was a trip.

[quote][R324], SJP wins that contest.

She might now, r349, but in her peak from her mid-20s to mid-30s, Sarah Jessica Parker was a good comedienne with a spark and sense of silliness on screen. She had that dancer body, a riot of hair, twinkling eyes and a great smile. She was cute, wart and all.

None of which she takes advantage of now.

I never could stand her

I never could stand her

ANY Jackson

Even me, R360?

R290 and R291 My Dad felt the same way about Barbra. My husband feels the same bewilderment at Hilary Swank, most recently in the crap movie Fatale. No matter how much she grows out her hair or tries to be sexy, she is hideous and has zero sex appeal. Same with the atrocious looking Elizabeth Moss. We're supposed to believe some hot, rich guy was totally obsessed with her in Invisible Man? Sorry, no.

R286, She never said why she hated Danny Kaye. Maybe she figured out he was "light in his loafers"?

R363 Maybe it was that whole “poison in the potion” routine, that could drive anyone to hate.

[quote]I even saw a post by somebody whose grandmother also hated Danny Kaye like mine did. If you’re reading this, do you know why?

Loud mouth Jew?

Seriously, Danny Kaye was one of those celebrities you couldn't get away from in the 1960s. He had a weekly variety show and introduced The Wizard of Oz when it was on CBS annually. Lengthy "comedy" before, during commercials. He was all over magazines, even commercials If I remember correctly. And the locals channels ran Hans Christian Anderson, Walter Mitty and a hoard of other movies he acted in. I specifically remember him in The Man from the Diners Club, when one of his feet was two inches longer than the other. ENOUGH!

R365 Wasn’t he stop animated in one of the holiday TV shows as well?

I loved and still love Danny Kaye. His comedy varied, sophisticated wit to slapstick, he sang well, he danced, he was a good actor. You either get it or you don't, I guess. Also if you're anti-Semitic like R365 I guess that wouldn't help (and also would severely limit your enjoyment of comedy in the 20th/21st centuries in general).

[quote]Maybe it was that whole “poison in the potion” routine, that could drive anyone to hate.

I don't think the word "potion" is ever used in the routine.

R120 and R305, what were your parents' objections to Jackie Gleason?

R368, He was ‘coarse’.

R367, fool, I'm not anti-semitic. I'm Jewish. If several people's grandmothers disliked Danny Kaye his being Jewish could be a major reason. I'm happy you like Danny Kaye. I understand why, but you must understand liking his routine is a matter of taste.

R368, many people know Gleason from his 50s-60s variety show, not necessarily The Honeymooners. And they remember his record albums of "mood music," famous song instrumentals where he allegedly conducted the orchestra.

If I were a parent I'd be telling my kids I didn't like DK, too. Not sure why, but I think it's because his goody-two-shoes for-the-children UNICEF stuff became nauseating. Danny Thomas much the same.

Danny Kaye was in this holiday special.

Thanks for the responses about Danny Kaye. I’m sure my grandmother wasn’t anti-Semitic so maybe she just found him annoying. I know I do.

It's an Easter special. Call it for what it is.

Nope R375, it’s a holiday special, it’s based on one of my favorite childhood books, “The Easter Bunny That Overslept.” He misses delivering eggs on Easter, so he, to no avail, tries giving them away during all the other holidays. The special does all the holidays!

R367 is right. The pellet with the poison is in the flagon with the dragon. The chalice from the palace has the brew that is true.

My mother hated Danny Kaye ever since she saw him on some talk show in either the '70s or early '80s. I'm thinking it was Phil Donahue or something like that.. Anyway, they let the audience ask him questions and apparently he put down one of these fawning audience members pretty viciously, calling her fat. This is what my mother said; I have no idea whether this actually happened..

If it did, I think that's proof that Danny was not only gay but would have been a true DLer!

Maybe if your mother hadn't been such a whore, she might have been able to learn to enjoy Danny Kaye.

Last year, a DLer called Danny Kaye IRISH. You know, the red hair and "Irish" name.

Danny Kaye bore Olivier's bastard son, I hope you know.

I think we may need a Danny Kaye deappreciation thread on DL. I surmise that part of the problem was he had an unchecked ADHD problem and one can only take those people in small doses. A little goes a long way.

r382. plus he was a total queer married to a woman.

My mother hated Jerry Lewis. Said he was mean and was mean to Dean Martin. Felt he was jealous of Martin’s looks and talent. I think she was right.

You are free to carry on with the Danny Kaye rants, didn’t mean to pull the column away from that. I rather agree wholeheartedly btw.

R384 Like the aforesaid Dannys Kaye and Thomas, Lewis's charitable efforts boomeranged and made it look like he was using MDA for self-promotion.

Why don't people like Danny Kaye? For the same reason many couldn't stomach Robin Williams, they both had a severe manic thing going in their performances.

My grandmother was appalled when she saw Kaye, who had a good head of bleached hair, had grown it out "like a hippie" in the 1970s. An old man trying to be young:

R386 Except there were a lot of manic comics -- Jonathan Winters, Phyliss Diller, Joan Rivers et al. -- who didn't strike the same nerve as Kaye.

R387, Phyllis Diller, manic? Jonathan Winters, manic? Don't think so. Joan Rivers wasn't close to Kaye in that way.

Frank Sinata -- "That overrated wop" as my rather racist father called him.

R387 I’m pretty sure Jonathan Winters was Bipolar 2, the very definition of manic.

R386 You've clearly forgotten Phyliss and her style. If this isn't manic . . .

My father had a pathological hatred of Joan Rivers. When she'd appear on Ed Sullivan she'd always come out walking very strangely and bobbing her head up and down. That would insight my father practically to violence. "Just look at that crazy idiot bob that head" he would say before changing the channel while she was on. If he changed back to Sullivan and she was still on he'd get even madder. "DAMN, that fool is still on!". Then he'd switch channels again. When he'd finally go back and she'd be gone it was like all the pressure of the world had been lifted from him.

Yes, my father was an asshole.

R390, acting manic as described here has nothing to do with being bi-polar.

My mother despised Marlene Dietrich, thought she was a terrible actress and an even worse singer.

R393 I think you are confused who Jonathan Winters is, this obit literally calls him manic.

R391 has clearly forgotten Phyliss is spelled PHYLLIS. No one is called "Phyliss."

Darling, R395, HIS ACT was not manic like Robin Williams or Danny Kaye.

It's strange to read about anti-semitism here. I grew up in a midwestern town where there were hardly any Jews and I can't remember any entertainer being identified as Jewish by my parents. The word "Jew" was never used outside of church when talking about the bible.

The only entertainer we ever heard about as being Jewish was Sammy Davis Jr.

Imagine disliking Danny Kaye?

Am I missing out on something? I don’t have time to watch the whole thing, but I fast forwarded through the Yan Can Cook video and I never saw Phyllis Diller.

Manic Phyllis on Ed Sullivan here.

There was an episode of SNL where Pamela Anderson was the host. She got naked as part of her introduction. My mom goes "she's just doing what she does in her daily life. Typical."

You guys all know what Danny Kaye meant by "thumbelina," right?

R401, if you think that's manic, you must live on a farm where the loudest noise you hear once a day is moooo.

I can't remember Danny Kaye being manic, maybe he was. But I don't think Joan or Phyllis were manic. I don't even think Richard Pryor was "manic" .

Just Robin Williams, really. Or maybe that watermelon guy? If not manic, then weird as hell.

Both of my parents had a visceral loathing of the Osmond Brothers, with Mother especially hating little Jimmy. You'd think that people born in the 1920's would have loved those wholesome Mormons, but no. They had a lot of harsh words for Andy Williams who gave them their start on the Andy Williams Show. Even in the 2000's they'd rant about how THEY ruined Andy Williams. To this day, I still don't get it.

My mother always hated Helen Hunt. She keeps showing off her boobies and nips in every film she makes.

R401 If Phyllis doesn't strike you as manic, then you must have had a fulfilling career selling hot dogs to the excited crowds in a sports stadium.

I always get Danny Kaye and Jack Palance mixed up.

R409, Danny Kaye could not do one-armed pushups.

R409 R410 And Jack Palance didn't pay hookers to shit on him.

Or was that Danny Thomas?

They sneered the name "Elaine Boosler" with such contempt every time she appeared on television I eventually had to ask why. "Because she's NOT funny!"

They were also tickled when Anita Bryant took a lie to the face.tickled

I remember them having an aversion to everything about Debby Boone, from her prissy presentation to her saccharine material.

R412 Here. "They were also tickled when Anita Bryant took a PIE to the face."

R413, Who wasn't?

(R390) Jonathan winters gave the creeps.

Watch this entire routine and see Danny Kaye OVER performing. Robin Williams would be proud.

Danny Kaye overacting - with Danny Kaye

My parents both hated Phyliss Neumann, and as a result, so do I.

R418, Was it her annoying laugh?

My mom had a number of somewhat obscure1960s/70s celebrities she disliked (often from seeing them on talk/variety/game shows). In retrospect, she was mostly right on.

Comedienne Totie Fields: "Loudmouth jewess. Not funny." (I disagree with this one.)

French singer Mireille Matthieu: "Oh, ick. She sings through her nose and spits."

Dr. Joyce Brothers: "Phony baloney Miss Priss."

Elizabeth Ashley: "Manic." (I don't think mom knew about cokeheads at the time,)

Wally George (abrasive right-wing TV/radio commentator and father of Rebecca DeMornay): Mom HATED him, as well she should have.

George Putnam (arch conservative LA newscaster): See above.

Nanette Fabray: "No-nose Nanette. Goody two shoes."

Astrologer to the Stars, Joyce Jillson: "Miss Balloony Tits. Airhead crackpot. Astrology is a load of crap."

Kim Darby: "Sullen and can't act."

Some celebrities she particularly liked: Jane Fonda, Hope Lange, Dinah Shore, Burt Bacharach, James Garner, Sidney Poitier.

The name was Phyllis Newman, R428. Where the fuck do you get these odd misspellings???

Elaine Boosler was funny!

My parents thought Phylishia Richaud was the weak link in The Cosby Show. I’m inclined to agree.

I forgot my Italian grandmother and her television commentary. She always watched Doctor Quinn but would make snide remarks about Jane Seymour never closing her mouth and Chad Allen looking “corny” in his cowboy hat.

My WW II Marine father had a particular aversion to Jack Cassidy.

My mother had a similar aversion to Robert Q. Lewis.

R420 your mom sounds like a hoot!

Mom mom ALSO hated Phyllis Newman!

Thought she was famous just for marrying Adolph Green and hated her ditzy act when she appeared on Carson.

My mother despises Gloria Estefan. Genuinely funny look of disgust when a song of hers came on the radio.

You must be a celebrity, OP, because my mother HATES you.

My grandmother (born 1905) hated Louis Armstrong of all people. And she thought Richard Chamberlain was funny looking.

Did any of your folks ever hate Katharine Hepburn? For some reason I thought she'd be one of the go-to most hated. I'm kind of surprised she isn't mentioned here.

(R431) My mother didn't like her but never made any remarks about hating her either. I can never make up my mind about Katharine Hepburn, myself. She somehow creeps me out when I see her. Somethings off with her yet I liked Spencer Tracy and really he had more to dislike about him than her. Big drinker but somehow that didn't matter to me, seemed kind of a nice guy.

[quote] Andy Williams Show. Even in the 2000's they'd rant about how THEY ruined Andy Williams. To this day, I still don't get it.

Speaking of Andy, my parents despised Claudine Longet, his untalented trigger happy wife. She sang a song on one of Williams’ family holiday specials and for the life of me, my brother and I couldn’t hear a word of what she sang because of my parents snarking. Oh, and when she shot Spider Sabich, they wouldn’t shut up. We joked about that for years.

My mother thought Cher was meh. My father liked her and said she reminded him of Streisand. The nose, not the voice, I'll guess.

Miss Longet…so talented.

Claudine was rumored to have had a fling with RFK.

R436 RFK fucked anything that moved, just like those pervert brothers of his.

Just to dampen the negativity in this thread, some celebrities nobody ever hated:

Gracie Allen Arline Francis Groucho Judy Holliday Walter Cronkite Ricky Nelson Eva Gabor Doris Day

What about me r438? People LIKE me! Even when I had to step in and raise Rhoda’s kids, people liked me. Do I get any love? No, none at all. Go sit on a box of Nabisco Wheat Thins.

This is payback for foisting Barney the Dinosaur on us:

R439 And you wonder why nobody liked you, Sandy? Count yourself lucky you had any career at all in show business. In my book, you're right up there with Sally Field.

Bite me Mrs. Poole.

My mother never used the word 'hate,' but she would speak with disdain about Frank Sinatra. She loved John Forsyte and Linda Evans. If I called during Dynasty she'd hustle me off the phone so she could go watch.

Why didn't you get her a VCR? Were you poor?

[quote] Bite me Mrs. Poole.

She bites everything else in sight.

[quote]How about Shelley Winters?

She ate her Jewishness with every Passover seder.

My mother was very vociferous about actresses she liked and hated.

We're talking 60s/70s

Biggest hates Mia Farrow, Liza Minelli, Twiggy! (I like all three very much - Twiggy I think is a lucky bitch, not a bitch but a lucky bitch. i'm amazed how long she's ridden on the coat tails of her original fame).

But she likes Julia Roberts (which shows what bad taste she has - but my father could see right through her as could I). He hated Hugh Grant and Whoopie Goldberg.

She also hated Kathleen Turner for some reason - I like her a lot as well.

Marilyn Manson

My grandmother always said Connie Francis was a cheap whore. And that Frank Sinatra was an illiterate, woman-beating gangster who wouldn't be fit to be a garbageman if not for his voice.

And those Kennedys were all a bunch of bootlegging garbage-dicks who got a few whores killed before they themselves were brought down by a Vengeful Protestant God (or "VPG").

On the contrary, I recall my mother always admiring Brenda and her TV commercials, spokeswoman duties, love for and application of her tampons. I mean....well, you know what I mean...the tampons that she pimped out (Brenda, not my mom). :j

"My grandmother always said Connie Francis was a cheap whore."

LOVE! Only on Datalounge. :-)

R435, didn't she sit upon a mountain top and kill her lover with a sniper rifle?

R439, eye love you!

[italic]The Hogan Family[/italic]'s last season was on CBS, so the CBS eye made up for that.

That cunt Kathy Griffen. My mother will not be crying when she dies.

The one and only occasion I recall my mother being bitchy or petty about a celebrity was when discussing Diana Ross and her "non-singing ass."

Diana Ross could sing.

Your mother probably had other problems.

R455: Barron, does your mommy know that you are trolling DataLounge?

My grandmother HATED the Kennedys because Joseph P was a bootlegger.

[quotw]RFK fucked anything that moved, just like those pervert brothers of his.

Actually, no. Bobby was not nearly as active as his brothers.

That Kennedy bootleg allegedly made some folks go blind or something. Where were they getting that shit from?

[quote]My aunt (a psychiatrist) detested the character of 'Sophia Petrillo' on THE GOLDEN GIRLS. That is why she couldn't watch it. She said that 'Sophia' exhibited many of the symptoms associated with Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

I agree with your aunt. Well, I wouldn't diagnose her because I am not a psychiatrist, but Sophia was so unpleasant.

R460 it was Rose's purified urine.

R460, Joe used to go down to the Boston docks and watch the ships coming in from Europe with his booze.

[quote]What about me [R438]? People LIKE me! Even when I had to step in and raise Rhoda’s kids, people liked me. Do I get any love? No, none at all. Go sit on a box of Nabisco Wheat Thins.

The Negro Community will forever frown upon you for "Missy Anne", Sandy!

There was talk of an Annie Get Your Gun revival with Claudine but it went nowhere.

In 2001, I was watching Madonna's Behind the Music. They showed a clip of parents in the 80s saying stuff like "I don't think she sets a good example for young girls bla bla bla bla bla". My mom (not caring this was released before J LO ever had a career} goes "What about that Jennifer Lopez? Can't hold a man, goes through them like underwear, yucky music, all she does is wear designer clothes!".

Another one here whose parent hated Victor Mature, mine called him "Old Twisty Face"

My Dad hated Kurt Russell and Curly Howard. My mom hated Burt Lancaster and Shawn Mendes,

R430, After the first night of "The Thornbirds" miniseries aired, I overheard the woman next door say to my mother "Why did they cast that fairy as Father Ralph?".

My mother wonders what kind of house fire must have melted Tim Allen's face, and then she wonders who the hell called 911 and interrupted the fire's very important work.

She didn't hate them but my mother says casually back in the 1970s that a tabloid reported that Rock Hudson and Jim Neighbors got married in Hawaii.

She took it all rather casually.

Me being gay?

Not so much.

My mother hated Vanessa Redgrave. Always called her ‘old horseface’. I have no idea what that was all about.

She also did not like Peter Lawford. Always said he was responsible for setting her up inthat party in Cal-Neva drugging her and having her passed around all the men.

R472

Marilyn Monroe that is.

My mother had an aversion to Nancy Reagan when she was First Lady, yet she came around and eventually admired the way she cared for Reagan in his final years.

Ironically, Nancy Reagan's funeral was the last thing my mother watched on television before her own battle with Alzheimer's left her bedridden. She died two weeks later.

My mom had a crush on Robert Wagner probably before I was born, all the way through the last season of Hart to Hart. My dad just put up with it but figured RW killed Natalie Wood.

How unfair that Natalie's life ended at 43, while Wagner is still thriving at 91.

How funny. My mom hated Robert Wagner because she was convinced he killed Natalie Wood.

They also hated Jimmy Carter. Would always make fun of his "liver pills" whatever that meant and his peanut farming.

My mom hated most women so there are a lot of celebrities she couldn't stand.

R477 There used to be a well-known patent medicine, Carter's Little Liver Pills. It was used in old phrase for a big number: "Why, you've got more excuses than Carter has Little Liver Pills!"

[quote] How unfair that Natalie's life ended at 43, while Wagner is still thriving at 91.

If only the good die young, Betty White must have more kills than Attila the Hun.

R478 Don't be so hard on him. It's not his fault his mother was a moron.

R479, Not to mention Olivia.

Newton John?

No, DeHavilland.

[quote] Don't be so hard on him. It's not his fault his mother was a moron.

Jimmy Carter's mother was a hoot. He said when he told her he was running for president, she said, "President of what?"

Didn't he have a drunk brother that had a beer named after him? or maybe that was Bill Clinton.

R484, Yes, Billy Carter, who brewed Billy Beer. His daughter recently divorced DL fave Van Jones.

Van Jones has no taste in women.

R485 just told me something I did not know. Thanks!

I used to feel so sorry for Amy Carter as a kid, looking like that on a national stage, and because my mother used to say "That Amy Carter is a mud fence!"

You're not kidding R487. She gives homely Chelsea Clinton a run for her money.

It hurts to be in love

R478, I'm laughing so hard because that's something I never knew and now I think little kid me heard my mom use this phrase and because Carter was president, I assumed she was talking about him. She likely was just using that phrase and my little brain had no idea it was just an old saying. But she did hate Carter so maybe that's why I put the two together.

I cannot stop laughing at R467's parents. Oh my god. This thread is pure gold.

I'm WWing every thread that makes me laugh, which is the majority of them.

My mother hates all whores.

I always enjoyed Danny Kaye. Since most people did, this wasn't a minority opinion. And not only was he not "always manic" like Robin Williams, he was never actually manic. And he tended to be in good taste, and witty, unlike Jerry Lewis. I can't say my parents hated him because they did not. They actually once skipped school to see him when movies had stage shows and he was the stage performer. And they liked his TV show. My dad also loved Gleason. Neither of my parents cared for Jerry Lewis.

My mom HATED Betty White for years. I forget why, but I think it went back to watching her on Password (she was the wife of Alan Ludden) and stuff like that. I think she had a sitcom in the 50s as well. But my mom ended up loving her in The Golden Girls and became a big fan.

When Jim Palmer started doing TV ads for some mortgage company or some financial adviser, my father used to cry, "Bah! Jim Palmer! Who hired him for this? I can't take him seriously--not after seeing him in his bikini briefs!"

Meanwhile, I was masturbatung furiously to one of those Jim Palmer Jockey ads from a really old copy of People magazine.

For some reason my dad hated the actor who played Marlo Thomas’ dad in her sitcom. He’d always rag on him every time he was on television.

He also disliked Esther Rolls (yes, that’s what he called her). Mainly because he thought she was ugly and her Florida Evans character was such a wet blanket.

Plus, she had no neck.

I read a post on the old AOL Black Voices entertainment forums that Esther’s neck was the black version of Where’s Waldo.

My mother hated Dinah Shore. Of course, this little gay boy loved watching her show. I remember when Paul Lynde made his joke about her on the squares, my mother almost wet herself laughing.

R498 Are you sure it wasn’t just the menopause?

Dinah could not sing. I don’t know how she made it as a chanteuse. She did have a lovely personality but her voice was like a bagpipe getting run over by a steamroller.

My dad didn’t like her either. Mom did, but couldn’t stand her voice.

My mother HATED Waylan Flowers, but LOVED Madame.

R500, When she used to sing on her talk show, it was abysmal.

She sounded like Maria Callas next to Rosie O'Donnell.

Dinah's reaction to being surprised by Ralph Edwards was classic.

R502, as a youngun’ I remember how much my parents loved Barry White’s LOVE’S THEME. They were so happy that he was scheduled to perform it on Dinah’s show. Well…he was there with his orchestra and Dinah SANG! It’s an instrumental piece but she was singing it! Someone must’ve come up with lyrics. Regardless, she totally ruined it for us all. Especially my dad. Mercifully she was drowned out by the musicians near the end. What she did to that gorgeous music could have been an episode of LAW AND ORDER: SVU.

R500 I beg to differ. Dinah Shore could sing well.

Not during her talk show years r506.

What was with Dinah and Burt Reynolds?

Good sex r508. They were both chronologically at their sexual peaks when they met.

My father, who was a WWII vet only about a decade younger than Katharine Hepburn, could not STAND her and would snap off the TV angrily if she ever came on. I think he found her "mannish" and too aggressive for a woman, but he would never say exactly what the problem was.

My dad hated Richard Dreyfus and would scrunch his face up in disgust and pain whenever he was on tv or his name was mentioned.

[R9] "One person who pops into my mind who she couldn’t stand was Jaclyn Smith. She always said she, “Had no face”. I still have no idea what that means."

I think I know what your mother meant to say: Jaclyn Smith had that kind of doll-like, flawless but bland beauty that appeals to the mainstream audience. Her facial expression varied only slightly if at all. Hence "Had no face".

My parents didn't care for any of the actresses in CHARLIE'S ANGELS. They thought that their acting was terrible and one night, we watch an episode of CA where Kelly Garrett (Smith) was slammed into a wall by a criminal after telling him, "Hey! I'm a detective". My dad derided her for that. My mother thought that Jaclyn, while pretty, was no actress. Can't disagree with her about that. Kate was on THE ROOKIES, so they liked her in that, but not CA. And don't get me started on Farrah; they simply despised her. "Just a white girl with a lot of hair", my mom would say.

My mom hated Isabella Rossellini and my dad hated Kyle MacLachlan. So they had a DVD of "Bltue Velvet" which they would watch every night and get pissed off about until Mom's death. Ever since, Dad watches that every night and gets pissed off that Kyle M. doesn't die before the end.

My father HATED Gale Gordon. He loved I Love Lucy and Lucille Ball but couldn't stand The Lucy Show or Heres Lucy because of his Gale Gordon hatred. ("He just yells. Like a pain in the ass!") I think he also confused Gale Gordon with Mister Whipple of the Dont Squeeze the Charmin commercials, because he'd always give the TV the finger when one of those commercials came on.

R515 Your dad was right about Gale Gordon. He really did make that show unbearable.

What was with his mincing? Surely Lucy couldnt have OKed it.

My father hated Emily Watson which disappointed me because I've always liked her.

R517, Lucy adored Gale Gordon, thought he was an outstanding comedic actor.

He was first choice to play Fred Mertz, but he was involved with "Our Miss Brooks".

My dad hated Vince Edwards from BEN CASEY. He saw him singing on Bobby Vinton’s show (another one he disliked) and practically spit on the television screen.

My parents didn't really hate any celebrity. My dad once said he didn't care for Tyne Daly because she always had a scowl on her face and he didn't particularly like Helen Reddy because he thought she should fix her teeth since she had money enough to do it. Their hatred was reserved for politicians. My mother hated Johnson because she swore up and down that Johnson had something to do with Kennedy's death and my dad had a serious hatred for Nixon. He hated Nixon since Nixon headed the house un-American activities committee and ruined some of the best writers in Hollywood as far as my father was concerned. When he ran for president and won My dad almost had a nervous breakdown. He also hated Reagon.

I love your dad, R521.

My mom hated Dennis Hopper. Don't know why, I guess he just bugged her

Hopper was a hippie - into counter-culture stuff, drugs and such - co-directed/starred in Easy Rider.

Was your mother part of Nixon's "silent (moral) majority)"?