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The Atlantic GULF STREAM is collapsing!

Human-driven planetary warming threatens to collapse a system of currents in the Atlantic Ocean that regulate and impact weather across the globe, a new scientific study has found.

The Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation, or AMOC, a section of the Gulf Stream, transports warm water from the tropics northward and cold water from the North Atlantic to the south.

This natural redistribution of heat has long worked to stabilize regional climate and weather conditions; however, scientists have been warning that the system is slowing down. A 2019 United Nations report concluded that while the current is “very likely” to weaken this century, a total breakdown was unlikely.

But the new study, published Thursday in the journal Nature Climate Change, indicates the situation could be far direr than previously thought. The current changes may be tied to “an almost complete loss of stability of the AMOC over the course of the last century,” the analysis states.

“The findings support the assessment that the AMOC decline is not just a fluctuation or a linear response to increasing temperatures but likely means the approaching of a critical threshold beyond which the circulation system could collapse,” Niklas Boers, a researcher at the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research in Germany and the study’s author, said in a statement.

A crippled Atlantic current system could trigger catastrophic, potentially irreversible changes, from rising seas in North America to major disruptions to seasonal monsoon rains in Asia and South America.

“The mere possibility that the AMOC tipping point is close should be motivation enough for us to take countermeasures,” Levke Caesar, a climate physicist at Ireland’s Maynooth University, told The Washington Post. “The consequences of a collapse would likely be far-reaching.”

But Andreas Schmittner, a climate scientist at Oregon State University, is skeptical of the study’s conclusion.

“The method used in the paper has been developed and tested in very simple models of dynamical systems, but then it is applied to observations of sea surface temperatures and salinities,” he told HuffPost in an email. “I think their method is brand new and needs to be tested by different investigators and explored more in complex climate models to see if it works with the data they used. I think it is premature to conclude that the AMOC is on the brink of collapse.”

The study comes ahead of a major report from the United Nations’ Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, or IPCC, the leading consortium of researchers studying human-caused temperature rise. The assessment, due out Aug. 9 and authored by more than 200 scientists, will provide an up-to-date understanding of the crisis and its current and future effects around the globe.

There’s no way to pinpoint the level of greenhouse gas emissions that would lock in a total collapse of the AMOC, Boers told The Guardian. “The only thing to do,” he said, “is keep emissions as low as possible. The likelihood of this extremely high-impact event happening increases with every gram of CO2 that we put into the atmosphere.”

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by Anonymousreply 55August 11, 2021 12:05 PM

This is what part of the plot device in [italic]The Day After Tomorrow [/italic]was and scientists poo-poohed it.

by Anonymousreply 1August 6, 2021 7:18 PM

I hope the planet starts to freeze.

I can't stand the heat.

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by Anonymousreply 2August 6, 2021 7:20 PM

But what will happened to the vineyards in England? The subtropical gardens in Southern Ireland?

by Anonymousreply 3August 6, 2021 7:27 PM

Yes. Freeze ffs. Rather that than burn.

by Anonymousreply 4August 6, 2021 7:35 PM

R1, I think people poohpoohed it because it took place over the course of a couple hours rather than years or decades.

by Anonymousreply 5August 6, 2021 7:46 PM

It didn’t exactly where in the U.S it would become cold, so I don’t know whether to be concerned about this or not.

by Anonymousreply 6August 6, 2021 8:02 PM

Gotta love the Datalounge. This post, on an issue that could lead to much of the northern hemisphere being far less livable than it is now, gets seven posts. On the other hand, whether the exact position of a rimming scene in White Lotus is realistic gets three hundred.

by Anonymousreply 7August 8, 2021 12:06 PM

R7 - That's because more posters are qualified to talk about rimming than they do about climate science.

by Anonymousreply 8August 8, 2021 12:14 PM

There will be a new generation of stream, replacing this old, decrepit Atlantic Gulf Stream. No worry.

I'm talking out of my ass right now. Satisfied, R7?

by Anonymousreply 9August 8, 2021 12:17 PM

Typical hysterical Huffpost headline.

A stream will not "Shut Down".

by Anonymousreply 10August 8, 2021 12:43 PM

I am more concerned about the so-called dead zone from the Mississippi River.

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by Anonymousreply 11August 8, 2021 12:49 PM

Nope, it can. And will, but it is too hard to predict when

by Anonymousreply 12August 8, 2021 12:49 PM

Trying to imagine the full implications and what the world might be like as a result in 100 years is horrendous.

by Anonymousreply 13August 8, 2021 1:19 PM

The good thing for older people is that we won’t have to endure this, and because so many younger people are so loathsome in their attitude and beliefs, we don’t have to feel bad for what they will experience.

by Anonymousreply 14August 8, 2021 5:42 PM

Its all over anyway. Whats one more problem?

by Anonymousreply 15August 8, 2021 6:35 PM

R15- There you go, dear! That's the right attitude! 👍

by Anonymousreply 16August 8, 2021 6:44 PM

When the Gulf Stream collapses, the snow will improve in St Moritz.

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by Anonymousreply 17August 8, 2021 7:08 PM

R14 BUt you will have to endure Delta Covid. Delta Covid doesn't like oldies

by Anonymousreply 18August 8, 2021 7:19 PM

Delta Covid dislikes unvaccinated youngies much, much more.

by Anonymousreply 19August 8, 2021 9:30 PM

Gulf Stream, I know exactly how you feel.

by Anonymousreply 20August 8, 2021 9:47 PM

r15 What do you mean by its all over anyway? How long do you give us?

by Anonymousreply 21August 9, 2021 12:05 AM

not to worry. we are done destroying the earth and are now trying to figure out how to collect and get rid of all the space junk the world has put into space. do we ever think ahead?

by Anonymousreply 22August 9, 2021 12:22 AM

It's not, and it won't.

by Anonymousreply 23August 9, 2021 12:59 AM

It has varied in strength before.

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by Anonymousreply 24August 9, 2021 1:54 AM

Your article posits a grim future

by Anonymousreply 25August 9, 2021 2:20 AM

What "countermeasures?"

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by Anonymousreply 26August 9, 2021 2:57 AM

It's not too late to do something, R26. It might not prevent the coming ecological disasters, but it probably will make them smaller and less powerful.

That said, I expect we'll do nothing and no, the Gulf Stream isn't going to collapse anytime soon, but there are other inevitable changes looming that are going to be nearly as bad. We need to start thinking about water, now. There's going to be too much in the Eastern half of the country, and not nearly enough in the West, and this is going to happen within the next decade.

by Anonymousreply 27August 9, 2021 3:33 AM

R14 - while you're still breathing spite and resentment, you still have to endure us, the younger and prettier generation. We will make sure to make your life a living hell until the day you die, old cunt.

by Anonymousreply 28August 9, 2021 5:31 AM

R28, we will have the contentment of knowing your lives will be far worse, and deservedly so.

by Anonymousreply 29August 9, 2021 5:43 AM

What if I don't obsess about the climate as much as you obsess about us? So I won't feel horrible about the future then. Problem solved.

by Anonymousreply 30August 9, 2021 9:41 AM

In the 1970's, the Chicken Littles insisted that a new ice age was coming. Then the pearl clutchers spent the last 30 years screaming how we'll all roast alive. Now this. Just fuck off, already.

by Anonymousreply 31August 9, 2021 10:02 AM

[quote]A stream will not "Shut Down".

What if its cancelled?

by Anonymousreply 32August 9, 2021 10:22 AM

The collapse of the Gulf Stream has been a dystopic vision since at least the 1910s. It might happen one day, but who knows when. I think other consequences of climate change will happen way faster, but it's not like any of that would really prompt countermeasures. Even all those kids protesting at Fridays for Future just enjoy the day of skipping school and then proceed to plan their next faraway travels to get pretty pictures for their instagram profiles and stream crappy music all day long.

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by Anonymousreply 33August 9, 2021 10:38 AM

R27 well the west isn't going to want our water in the east... they've been dumping shit in it so much, it's infested with E.coli. Not safe enough to take a dip in, let alone drink.

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by Anonymousreply 34August 9, 2021 11:03 AM

DL has one hysterical loon posting all the environmental panic porn shit.

Hey OP, if it’s true, it’s too late. Sit back, enjoy the time left and shut the fuck up already..

by Anonymousreply 35August 9, 2021 11:32 AM

The climate has changed for millions of years. We can only sit back and watch.

by Anonymousreply 36August 9, 2021 11:37 AM

I know that we have critics of genetically modified animals and all, but it’s something to consider; many species that we rely on for food simply cannot adapt to the warming temperatures. Fish, flesh and fowl. I know, I know, vegetarianism or veganism are options, but we’ll have to modify those as well. I am a strong proponent of population control too. It’s come to that. Promote adoption when you can. It’s not a hoax or hysteria-it is really happening. I’ve yet to read or hear anything from scientists or climatologists contradicting climate change. Nothing with a strong argument against it anyway.

by Anonymousreply 37August 9, 2021 11:45 AM

I hope I somehow get laid from this

by Anonymousreply 38August 10, 2021 9:52 PM

R38- Laid to rest. ⚰️

by Anonymousreply 39August 10, 2021 9:56 PM

I’m glad I’ll be dead. But I am sad for the next generation.

by Anonymousreply 40August 10, 2021 9:58 PM

Goodbye Canada.

by Anonymousreply 41August 10, 2021 10:00 PM

[quote] But I am sad for the next generation.

Try next thousand generations.

by Anonymousreply 42August 10, 2021 10:03 PM

It will never be President.

by Anonymousreply 43August 10, 2021 10:05 PM

lol R43 I was just gonna post that

by Anonymousreply 44August 10, 2021 10:17 PM

No one is gonna bitch about the lame thread title?

As tradition goes it should read...

by Anonymousreply 45August 10, 2021 10:37 PM

[quote] Human-driven planetary warming threatens to collapse a system of currents in the Atlantic Ocean that regulate and impact weather across the globe, a new scientific study has found.

MARY!

by Anonymousreply 46August 10, 2021 10:40 PM

Well, if it's on the Huffington Post it just has to be accurate.

by Anonymousreply 47August 10, 2021 10:41 PM

[quote] Trying to imagine the full implications and what the world might be like as a result in 100 years is horrendous.

Don't worry dear, in a hundred years you'll be 176.

by Anonymousreply 48August 10, 2021 10:44 PM

Can't we just set up a few pumps?

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by Anonymousreply 49August 10, 2021 10:46 PM

Trying not to imagine what life will be like for humanity in say the 2300. 2400 as the news points increasingly to it not being very promising.

by Anonymousreply 50August 11, 2021 1:17 AM

I think that we will see sea walls pop up everywhere. I think it's the only solution, as we have too much infrastructure in our coastal cities. It's also where most businesses and corporations are located.

by Anonymousreply 51August 11, 2021 1:29 AM

I think simply moving inland would be smarter, r51.

by Anonymousreply 52August 11, 2021 2:34 AM

r52, the inland people will have guns to keep the coastals out.

by Anonymousreply 53August 11, 2021 8:34 AM

R53 - Exactly. I don't think Flyoverstan is going to be welcoming elites from the Coasts.

by Anonymousreply 54August 11, 2021 12:02 PM

Please make it snow in Hawaii. Pretty please!!

by Anonymousreply 55August 11, 2021 12:05 PM
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