Recent behaviour and comments by Sarah Ferguson including her claim Diana would be so proud of Harry and Meghan have produced a furious reaction from Lady Colin Campbell who has previously been more moderate and kinder than most in the upper classes are towards Fergie. . Implies she hasnt learnt from her mistakes in nearly 30 years and is hindering her daughters by the way she is behaving. Her reflections on Fergie begin at around the 11 minute mark.
Lady Colin Campbell angrily tells Fergie that she needs to shut up once and for all and stop being an embarrassing parent
by Anonymous | reply 179 | November 21, 2021 4:14 PM |
The Lady is looking especially like a dude, today.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | August 6, 2021 2:35 AM |
r1 I think she looks great.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | August 6, 2021 2:37 AM |
If Brendad Ickson were British.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | August 6, 2021 2:37 AM |
Right - as if Lady Colin (what is that - like Lady Frederick?) has even remotely been in the presence of royalty and has no biological children of her own.
This is a MAN of Lebanese descent born in Jamaica who now pretends to be of British high society because she duped some former Lord into marrying her for 9 months, until he found out that she was a biological man.
She can write all the books she wants on the royal family, but this outsider is a fucking fraud of the highest order.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | August 6, 2021 2:44 AM |
He acts and looks like a drag queen. His real name is George William Ziadie.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | August 6, 2021 3:16 AM |
She should have called her out when she pissed her pants during a concert
by Anonymous | reply 6 | August 6, 2021 3:19 AM |
r4 She very much has been in the presence of royalty.She has previously worked with Fergie on charity fundraising,has known the Gloucesters since the 1970s and was approached by Princess Diana before Andrew Morton to write an autobiography of her. Also she is not a man. What relevance is the fact her children are adopted?
by Anonymous | reply 7 | August 6, 2021 3:56 AM |
I think it's time the people of the world minded their own business.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | August 6, 2021 4:01 AM |
IIRC she was born with her genitalia messed up - supposedly fused vagina and "deformed" clitoris... oh something like that.
Her parents were awful (especially the mother) according to her, and when she left home, her grandmother paid for her to have surgery on her genitals -- and she became a model. Then married some guy with a title (I think they were married six months). She said he was an awful narcissist like her mother - or an addict.
Anyway, she went to Russia and adopted two boys - both kinda cute. She's had them on her youtube show co-hosting in her renovated castle (Castle Gorey). When she did Survivor or I'm a Celebrity Get Me Out of Here - something like that - in the jungle, and she said she needed the money because the castle needed a new roof. She was a real bossy bitch on that show but enormously popular with viewers because of the fireworks she caused. There are clips on youtube of her in big bustups with the other jungle-stranded celebs.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | August 6, 2021 4:02 AM |
Oh and she worked for years at Harrods but I can't remember in what capacity.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | August 6, 2021 4:03 AM |
r9 Exactly and as your post clearly illustrates she was never a biological male.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | August 6, 2021 4:03 AM |
[quote] I think it's time the people of the world minded their own business.
What a brilliant and convincing argument to put forward on a gossip forum!
by Anonymous | reply 12 | August 6, 2021 4:04 AM |
[quote]I think she looks great.
The word you're actually looking for is "tran-tastic"!
by Anonymous | reply 13 | August 6, 2021 4:05 AM |
Who is this half embalmed corpse?
by Anonymous | reply 14 | August 6, 2021 4:06 AM |
I love when she giggles in her videos over fart jokes Prince Philip reportedly used to make. (She likely never met Prince Philip, but she talks about him as if he made the fart jokes to her personally.)
by Anonymous | reply 15 | August 6, 2021 4:11 AM |
Compilation of Lady C, fighting in the jungle with the other "celebs"
by Anonymous | reply 16 | August 6, 2021 4:17 AM |
r13 She aint tran!! I think for 72 though her face is in good nick?
In terms of the substance of what she says I tink she has a point.She goes to great lengths to say something that she has said many times before and which I fully agree .That being that despite her flaws Fergie is not malicious, nasty or unpleasant to people.Shes very good natured and obliging. Definitely daft , hapless and a bit greedy.
Having said that she has been stuck in a rut or going around in circles for nearly 30 years with no resolution to getting on a firm financial footing and living a life of dignity as mother to two royals without being compromised by being desperate financially. She did financially establish herself at one point but seems to have squandered a lot. She also does talk too much and it reflects badly or rather hinders her daughters when she puts her foot in it.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | August 6, 2021 4:18 AM |
r15 She says she has met Philip briefly but that is not the source of her Philip anecdotes.The source is her good friend Gyles Brandreth who was also a good friend of Prince Philip.
She has has run ins with Princess Michael of Kent but seems to adore her brother in law the Duke of Kent and is very complimentary about her sister in law Princess Alexandra calling her a sweetie.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | August 6, 2021 4:20 AM |
R9 - she claims that about her genitalia - but no one knows for sure. She could have just been an early transsexual. She has all the mannerisms of a man in a dress.
She's a nut - it's hard to believe much of anything she says.
Why she's a 'celebrity' is just pure shock value I suppose.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | August 6, 2021 4:23 AM |
r19 How would you expect to know for sure?? Her problems with her body are well referenced numerous times described in detail from childhood.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | August 6, 2021 4:25 AM |
[quote] She aint tran!!
NOW who's being naive?
by Anonymous | reply 21 | August 6, 2021 4:26 AM |
I don't care if she is trans or hermaphrodite. I just said, compared to her earlier, very amusing videos on Markle, her summer look today is quite masc in impact.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | August 6, 2021 4:34 AM |
A Lady???
She looks like she just came out of a trailer park. The embodiment of white trailer trash.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | August 6, 2021 4:39 AM |
There are photos of him ore-surgery. She's a man.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | August 6, 2021 4:39 AM |
r24 Do you have a link please?
by Anonymous | reply 25 | August 6, 2021 4:43 AM |
Everything she claims is from her mouth only.
"She has previously worked with Fergie on charity fundraising,has known the Gloucesters since the 1970s and was approached by Princess Diana before Andrew Morton to write an autobiography of her."
So she volunteered for a charity - she's hardly besties with her. And SHE claims Diana approached her to write a biography - there's no evidence of that. I'm so sure Princess Diana was like - you know what I need? I'm not going to look at any serious writers with experience or biographers - I'm going to see if old Lady Colin Campbell can put pen to paper for me.
As if. SurvivingAngel - you clearly like this fraud for some reason - she is entertaining. But to believe all of these fantastical stories she weaves is pure naivete on your part.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | August 6, 2021 4:43 AM |
In the jungle videos, with tight clothes, she looks to have a female body - small waist, wide flat pelvis... I don't know. Maybe she's like Jamie Lee Curtis supposedly is - a type of hermaphrodite? It happens. The doctor picked male for Lady C - female for Jamie - and Lady C said they picked the wrong gender when they were confused when she was an infant.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | August 6, 2021 4:53 AM |
Oh - and her working as a model in NYC - yeah, right.
Everything is PR, tabloid articles and saying stuff enough times for it to become truth.
She also claims that her family the Ziadie family were extremely wealthy merchants in Jamaica - but there's not much to support this. A dry-goods merchant - that's about it.
She's a total fraud - everything about her. Nothing checks out. Everything we know about this woman is what she reports and nothing has been verified. Yet she has the nerve to write these tell-alls about the royal family as if she knows any of them.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | August 6, 2021 4:56 AM |
r26 Everyone in the upper class has knowledge and gossip from those circles.Its a small world in that sense. I never said they were besties. Lady Colin Campbell was an established writer by that time so your not right with the facts there.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | August 6, 2021 4:57 AM |
Her opinions on Fergie that I started with do not require her to have inside knowledge.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | August 6, 2021 4:59 AM |
Lady Colin is a gem! A gossip loving tell all who loves to dish the dirt.
She should be one of DL's Patron Saints!
Except for the fact there's a sizable faction of asshole bigots on here who hate anyone who is trans or as in Lady Colin's case, intersex.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | August 6, 2021 4:59 AM |
r32 No I dont buy that.You must only mix in with 10 out of 10 female beauties if you dont know women who look like or similar to that.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | August 6, 2021 5:03 AM |
R29 - but she's not part of that world. She's not an aristocrat - she was married to one for nine months in NYC almost 50 years ago.
She has traded on her name Lady Colin Campbell to get a hanger-on status and entree to places she doesn't belong.
Is she charming and entertaining? No doubt. But sociopaths are. And yes, she has written a lot of dishy books to gain prominence.
I can't believe you can't see through this bullshit.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | August 6, 2021 5:05 AM |
Shes upper class but not aristrocratic.She is definitely part of that scene socially. r34
river who has a royal youtube chatter channel too references her and he has excellent sources as most not all of what he says has come to pass and subsequently been reported on by the UK tabloids. One of his sources is rumoured to be a member of the spencer clan.He clearly knows Lady C personally .
by Anonymous | reply 35 | August 6, 2021 5:10 AM |
An intersex person raised as male who was surgically altered (snip! snip!) to look female = transsexual
You're never going to convince me otherwise.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | August 6, 2021 5:20 AM |
I actually sort of like her, a very little bit and from a very safe distance.
She seems like she'd be a blast to have a drink or five with.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | August 6, 2021 5:23 AM |
r36 LOL Never is a strong determined word!!
by Anonymous | reply 38 | August 6, 2021 5:23 AM |
R35 - I'm not going to argue anymore with you about this fraud. She got an aristocrat to marry her after 10 days. She wrote a book about her mother's supposed narcissism which sounds like her own issue.
She tells stories and gives the paps what they want. There's no evidence of her 'interviewing' Diana for a book. And for that matter, she had no knowledge to write a book about the Queen Mother of all people.
The tabloids protect this woman because she sells papers. She has used the media and her contacts at the papers to her advantage, but she's a fucking fraud. I don't know why anyone hasn't gone to Jamaica and gotten the real dirt on her.
She has made some good money writing those horrible books for people who can't discern rumor from truth.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | August 6, 2021 5:24 AM |
r39 The paps asin paparazzi are not after her for photos and she has succesfully sued some newspapers in the UK.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | August 6, 2021 5:26 AM |
R32- That's a face thats earned millions of Marlboro miles.
by Anonymous | reply 41 | August 6, 2021 5:34 AM |
SurvivingAngel is a racist as well as a homophobe. It’s probably the very creature on “Gab” that sent people to datalounge in order to attack Meghan.
And we already know it spends all day on poisonously homophobic forum kiwifarms.
by Anonymous | reply 42 | August 6, 2021 5:34 AM |
r41 An interesting turn of phrase!!
by Anonymous | reply 43 | August 6, 2021 5:40 AM |
Re: the intersex thing, she also claims that when she hit puberty, she started developing as a female and her parents forced her to undergo testosterone therapy, which deepened her voice.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | August 6, 2021 5:41 AM |
r44 Her parents sound horrendous
by Anonymous | reply 45 | August 6, 2021 5:42 AM |
Your right R42. If you want to know who is funding the hate you have to take a look at my link. KP bots just got caught because they trolled on a wrong tweet. A blue tick has revealed it. So the BRF allegedly is paying to troll a black woman with taxpayers money. After they dismissed her mental health issues and after she miscarried. Apparently this is okay with Kate and William. It's not normal. Delisted has rumours of paid trolls. I wonder if KP is paying for those too.
by Anonymous | reply 46 | August 6, 2021 5:42 AM |
Oh look: here comes the Megbot.
by Anonymous | reply 47 | August 6, 2021 2:40 PM |
He abhors a functioning vagina.
by Anonymous | reply 48 | August 6, 2021 2:49 PM |
I don’t know what’s up with this ones genitals but she looks, and sounds, like a man.
I’d love to hear what the real Campbells think of “Lady” Colin. I’d bet that cutie the Duke of Argyle wishes she’d take her own advice and shut up.
by Anonymous | reply 49 | August 6, 2021 3:23 PM |
I mean, look at those at the ears! Those are the ears of a 70 year-old man
by Anonymous | reply 50 | August 6, 2021 3:24 PM |
Surviving Angel, why are you so fucking invested in this?
by Anonymous | reply 51 | August 6, 2021 4:13 PM |
If that’s not the cunt calling the twat a pussy.
by Anonymous | reply 52 | August 6, 2021 4:33 PM |
R49 - here's the part that irks me. First, she's using this title over 45 years after the 9 month marriage was dissolved. She doesn't get to use that title anymore, right? She's not the current wife of a Lord nor the daughter on an entitled peer.
She only uses it so people don't mistake her for a man and to get invites.
She (he) does have a lot of hustle and game - I'll give him that. I wonder if she got alimony payments for this marriage? Or if it was dissolved because of her birth certificate?
All of this shouldn't be a question mark - this fraud gets to keep a curtain on her private life while writing books 'exposing' the royal family and their secrets. Hypocrisy of the highest order.
by Anonymous | reply 53 | August 6, 2021 4:41 PM |
R53, like Sarah, LCC monetizes a title with no meaning.
by Anonymous | reply 54 | August 6, 2021 4:48 PM |
I didn't like or believe in her at first, but she gets her facts right regarding the BRF and she is a recognized, best-selling author. Her books are well researched and fact-checked. Once I got beyond the voice and her strong personally I was able to enjoy her vlogs and their content. She is making a fortune on her YouTube vlogs and is restoring the castle with the money. She also has good taste in her interior designs and everything looks very comfortable. I am sure Megan and Harry get reports on her vlogs and detest her. She is one of their primary enemies.
by Anonymous | reply 55 | August 6, 2021 4:52 PM |
R55 - best-selling authors doesn't mean shit. So is Trump.
She does have a lot of people in fear of her and what she says - I'll give you that.
Her whole past is 'too frightening and traumatic to discuss' - which is odd and means that nothing has been verified. There are a lot of undocumented years of her life that are just not known which is weird for a 'celebrity'.
Most Brits despise a fake - so it's very curious why she gets a free ride. I firmly believe it's because she is thisclose with the tabloids and publishers and keeps giving them bits for their papers.
She got an alcoholic, drug-addicted 28 year old Lord to marry her after 5 days - that's impressive, I guess. There's just so much about her life that is questionable - like when she talks about all the poppers she did in early 20's. I thought poppers were primarily a gay man's drug - particularly back in the late 60's/early 70's.
Some of the reviews of her Diana book seem on point:
"Lady Colin Campbell has a distorted view of Diana, Princess of Wales. Her sources, aunts of friends who heard something etc are not accurate"
"This book is crazy. Lady Colin Canpbell goes forwards with (a good friend said) and then goes on to abort what she has said. She has Quoted no names. "
Again - how this wo(man) has any knowledge of Harry and Meghan, Diana, or anyone else is beyond me. People love gossip.
by Anonymous | reply 56 | August 6, 2021 5:09 PM |
The only source about her physical issues is her. IF you don't have anything to contradict her then that's the story. I believe her. I am a woman and she does not look like a male to me. Perhaps some DLers have limited experience with women in their, shall we say, natural state.
Divorced women can continue to be referred to as Lady. Even those who remarry.
by Anonymous | reply 57 | August 6, 2021 5:11 PM |
Oh great, now we have to put up with fraus putting their two-cents in. Can’t gay men have anything for themselves? Go back to Facebook.
by Anonymous | reply 58 | August 6, 2021 5:17 PM |
She is so wrong in saying Diana had too much respect for the Royal Family to approve of Harry.
That's bullshit and her just sucking up to the Royal Family.
Diana pioneered the interview that fucked up and destabilized the Royal Family.
by Anonymous | reply 59 | August 6, 2021 5:18 PM |
I am sure Megan and Harry and their highly paid PR hacks watch and record everything Lady Colin says. They haven't stopped her which shows how careful Lady Colin is in what she says and how she says it. I have to say how amazing it is that she stands up to them. I admire her courage.
by Anonymous | reply 60 | August 6, 2021 5:21 PM |
I am also sure Megan secretly watches Lady Colin's vlogs.
by Anonymous | reply 61 | August 6, 2021 5:25 PM |
R60 - courage? She's a gossiping commoner. Harry and Megs don't give two shits what this bizarre 'woman' has to say, let alone watching breathlessly each video she posts.
R57 - "if you don't have anything to contradict her, then that's the story" - that's RICH for a woman who makes a career out of writing about people She. Does. Not. Know.
All of you are under this spell that because she uses the title "Lady" that she has any closeness with the RF. She's a Lebanese man from Jamaica. She doesn't know shit.
She's a very, very good con man. So what if some of the rumors she heard and put in her books turned out to be true? If that's the case, then half the people on DL should write biographies about every closeted gay person who we've written about on this board.
by Anonymous | reply 62 | August 6, 2021 5:30 PM |
I like Lady C when she rips Harry and Markle. I don't care for her when she criticized Sarah Ferguson earlier this week. Sarah has done nothing wrong in years. She has made amends, apologized and tried to live her life. So what, she writes books now. She still needs to make a living, and on her own, she has done more than many royals regarding philanthropy and children in need throughout the world. Sarah Ferguson has put up with enough shit from critics. It's time to stop. On the other hand, Harry and Markle are utterly despicable in their quest to ruin other people for their own benefit.
by Anonymous | reply 63 | August 6, 2021 5:43 PM |
She averages 600,000 views a week - and between 50,000 and 100,000 views per vlog. Her books have sold 100,000s. She owns a castle. I don't think she is a con woman. She is a fearless personality who knows how to make money in writing and now on the web. She makes at least $10,000 a month on YouTube.
by Anonymous | reply 64 | August 6, 2021 5:45 PM |
R64 - you are mistaking internet popularity and gossip book sales for integrity. I pity you.
by Anonymous | reply 65 | August 6, 2021 5:49 PM |
I had no idea YT was that lucrative, R64.
The castle can be rented for weddings, anyone been? I believe guests can take selfies with LCC. It does look lovely.
by Anonymous | reply 66 | August 6, 2021 5:49 PM |
Who do YOU believe has integrity in all this, R65?
by Anonymous | reply 67 | August 6, 2021 5:50 PM |
r64 Good on her I say!
r65 Or maybe r64 has discerned for themselves that in this instance accuracy and truth and popularity are not in conflict? They aren't always in opposition.
by Anonymous | reply 68 | August 6, 2021 5:51 PM |
It is striking that the litigious ones have not filed suit @ her.
by Anonymous | reply 69 | August 6, 2021 5:54 PM |
Lots of chatter about the messenger Lady Colin Campbell and that's fair enough on an internet forum but what do people think about what she has said about Fergie? Do we agree with her that Fergie needs to shut up because she's harming her daughters life prospects? She's always spoken in a nuanced way about Fergie but until this video with slightly more warmth and without describing Fergie as a joke figure. She obviously thinks Fergie has crossed a line and likely reflects increasing head shaking at Fergies antics in Upper class and establishment circles/ high society circles.
by Anonymous | reply 70 | August 6, 2021 5:56 PM |
Harry and Markle are fame whores and realized long ago that all publicity is good publicity. They don't hate LCC.
by Anonymous | reply 71 | August 6, 2021 6:02 PM |
R65 - I certainly don't think a Lebanese man from Jamaica who hoodwinked a drunken aristocrat to marry her after 5 days, then has covered up her own family and personal life for decades has much 'integrity'. I'm calling him a conman.
Yes - I've been posting a lot on this thread and it's because I've felt this way for years about this 'woman'. I've seen her on different shows and she's quite imperious at times and there's just something not right about her. Everything about her screams sociopath.
And I hate when people can't see through this - just like with Trump. He's entertaining and a media whore - but it's all a pack of lies. I shouldn't be so invested in this, so I'll stop. But it irks me when people like this get so much attention and money, providing nothing but half-truths and negative comments about people she doesn't even know.
by Anonymous | reply 72 | August 6, 2021 6:05 PM |
r72 What makes you think she hoodwinked her ex husband?
by Anonymous | reply 73 | August 6, 2021 6:10 PM |
R72 My comment was to "Surviving Angel" as to why she is so invested in selling LCC so hard. Not to you for, obviously, having a different view.
Surviving Angel kind of came out of nowhere and has become a very, very busy bee on this board, and I have to say my antlers are up.
by Anonymous | reply 74 | August 6, 2021 6:10 PM |
r74 I have been posting on this board since early 2017. It was actually the death of Debbie Reynolds 2 days after her daughter Carrie Fisher that prompted me to join because there were so many thinks I wanted to say and post but couldn't. I like Lady Colin Campbell and bat back a few unfair comments that's all.
by Anonymous | reply 75 | August 6, 2021 6:24 PM |
[quote]Sarah Ferguson has put up with enough shit from critics. It's time to stop.
No, we are not done with that vulgar trash yet.
We'll let you know when we are.
by Anonymous | reply 76 | August 6, 2021 6:25 PM |
I think it is OK to dislike her personality. I have tried for years to catch her out in a lie but I haven't been able to. Her facts are right, her conclusions and speculations are gossip.
by Anonymous | reply 77 | August 6, 2021 6:32 PM |
I smell like the fine hand rubbed mahogany and leather of a 1953 Bentley.
by Anonymous | reply 78 | August 6, 2021 6:34 PM |
Some of you people are no fun. It's FUN to enjoy her unique gender complexities and life of role playing. Mentioning it doesn't take away from her role as an entertainer. Are we not fans of Amanda Lear, as well?
by Anonymous | reply 79 | August 6, 2021 6:34 PM |
Antlers? I think you may mean antennae?
Eh, I am increasingly losing interest in all things Narkle and the many that surround and make $ off them. LC can be entertaining but all of is is not nearly as enticing as the last few weeks of summer, esp with further lockdowns looming. Will leave you all to it.
I had never encountered LC prior to this but did borrow the audio version of the book from the library (she is not the narrator) and made it though most of it. Had a lot of info on Diana and the parallels with Haz and the attempts to take down the monarchy are striking.
Enjoy your hobbies but do try to get out and get some Vit D and some fresh summer fruit and produce before this fall. The planned and orchestrated distractions will still be there and you likely will not have missed much.
by Anonymous | reply 80 | August 6, 2021 7:03 PM |
She reminds me of Bunny MacDougal, Trey’s mother in SATC.
by Anonymous | reply 81 | August 6, 2021 7:19 PM |
My antlers? Bwahahahahahahahaha.
STOP! You're killing me.
by Anonymous | reply 82 | August 6, 2021 9:05 PM |
He looks like the male version of Kellyanne Conway.
by Anonymous | reply 83 | August 6, 2021 11:32 PM |
Oh dear lol 😆Fergie is barely getting a mention in this thread!!
by Anonymous | reply 84 | August 6, 2021 11:59 PM |
OP is a dull scold who doesn't know the DL and doesn't belong here.
Cunt.
LCC, however, is a precious asset to British frippery.
by Anonymous | reply 85 | August 7, 2021 3:11 AM |
I love Lady C.
by Anonymous | reply 86 | August 7, 2021 3:26 AM |
r86 You are far from alone in that!
by Anonymous | reply 87 | August 7, 2021 3:27 AM |
I wonder if Lady C's "marriage" was like the film The Crying Game.
by Anonymous | reply 88 | August 7, 2021 3:30 AM |
Lady/Lord George adopted a couple of Russian boys. One turned out to be Brezhnev the other a Baryshnikov. Both being Ruskies they will likely throttle the ghastly old tranny baggage and bury him in the back yard.
by Anonymous | reply 89 | August 7, 2021 4:31 AM |
She can't help the way she looks and the fact she is getting older, but she dresses very well and has nice jewelry. She used to have one of her her sons in the videos who set things up for the camera, but now she does it herself. Editing must take a long time but the static nature of the vlogs means there are no fancy transition techniques being used. She might produce these herself.
by Anonymous | reply 90 | August 7, 2021 4:36 PM |
Pot meet Kettle, Lady Colin C. #shutup
by Anonymous | reply 91 | August 7, 2021 4:41 PM |
R90 "but she dresses very well and has nice jewelry"
by Anonymous | reply 92 | August 7, 2021 4:57 PM |
Google says she's 6 feet tall - but she doesn't look it in the photo, unless that big guy and blonde woman close to her are giants.
by Anonymous | reply 93 | August 7, 2021 5:00 PM |
R53 - A woman who marries a man with a title then divorces him can continue to use the title until she remarries. Therefore, we get Diana, Princess of Wales, Sarah, Duchess of York and Lady Colin Campbell.
If Princess Michael of Kent divorced Prince Michael, she would still be Princess Michael of Kent until she remarried.
by Anonymous | reply 94 | August 7, 2021 5:12 PM |
Question at R94 - what if Sarah's husband (for example) married again? There couldn't be two women addressed as Duchess of York? Or would they simply refer to them as Sarah, Duchess of York and (second wife's name here), Duchess of York?
by Anonymous | reply 95 | August 7, 2021 6:12 PM |
R95 - If Andrew remarried his wife would be "The Duchess of York". The "The" is the key hair.
Meghan is "The Duchess of Sussex". If Harry dies, and Archie is married with a wife, the wife would automatically become "The Duchess of Sussex" and Meghan would be "Meghan, Dowager Duchess of Sussex".
Downton Abbey: Cora Crawley is "The Countess of Grantham. Violet Crawley is "Violet, Dowager Countess of Grantham".
by Anonymous | reply 96 | August 7, 2021 6:25 PM |
R96 - ^^^^^^ "key here" not "key hair".
Sorry for the typo.
by Anonymous | reply 97 | August 7, 2021 6:27 PM |
I’ve never known the way that works, divorced amongst the royals.
The manner in which the first wife has precedent is similar at the better members-only golf clubs in the South.
When a husband divorced his wife to run off with his receptionist, the wife gets the membership to use to bring the kids to the pool and maybe tennis but the guy can’t come back and play golf with his whore until she remarries.
by Anonymous | reply 98 | August 8, 2021 3:06 AM |
r96 Correct
by Anonymous | reply 99 | August 8, 2021 4:20 AM |
[quote]Question at [R94] - what if Sarah's husband (for example) married again? There couldn't be two women addressed as Duchess of York? Or would they simply refer to them as Sarah, Duchess of York and (second wife's name here), Duchess of York?
R95. If Andrew married another woman, then his new wife would be (insert new wife's name here), The Duchess of York; while Sarah would still be referred to as Sarah, Duchess of York. A duchess only has "The" in front of her title if she is the legal wife.
However, if Sarah, Duchess of York married another man, she would lose her title altogether since titles go through the male line. Sarah would no longer be connected to Andrew as his former wife. She would be connected to the her new husband and take his title if he has one, or be known as Mrs. (John Smith).
If Sarah and Andrew remarry each other, Sarah would go back to the title of 'The' Duchess of York as she was when they were first married.
It may seem like a minor thing but the word "The" makes all the difference. The woman is "The Duchess of York" when legally married to the Duke of York; "Duchess of York" when divorced; and the "Mrs." with new husband's name: "Mrs. John Smith" if she remarries a different man.
by Anonymous | reply 100 | August 8, 2021 4:58 AM |
lady c was shot full of male hormones for years as a child. i think that may have been the cause of her manly look as a adult.
by Anonymous | reply 101 | August 8, 2021 5:26 AM |
How on Earth does Lady C think Fergie's behavior is going to harm her daughters when they're in their 30s?
It's been pretty clear that the Queen and Philip did not blame the sisters for the faults of their parents.
by Anonymous | reply 102 | August 8, 2021 5:32 AM |
[quote] titles go through the male line.
Typically, but not invariably.
There have been exceptions, like Lord Mountbatten's eldest daughter, and one of the Duchesses of Marlborough in the 18th century
by Anonymous | reply 103 | August 8, 2021 5:34 AM |
It's castle goring, named after the nearby town.
as for fergie, i think andrew is keeping her close now, and may re-marry her if his case ever goes to trial. in britain, just as in the us, a wife isn't compelled to testify against her husband.
by Anonymous | reply 104 | August 8, 2021 5:36 AM |
[quote] and I have to say my antlers are up.
Are you by any chance Trigon the Terrible?
by Anonymous | reply 105 | August 8, 2021 5:37 AM |
She’s not a man. She was born with a genital malformation and her parents insisted she be raised as a boy and even forced male hormones on her. She attempted to get help from a gynecologist at age 13 but her parents refused. At age 21 she was able to get surgery. She had a fused labia and deformed clitoris.
I have no clue what’s wrong with some of you. Being gay you have faced bigotry and even death yet the hostility that’s generated towards someone with a physical malformation. Is appalling. I can hardly imagine what she went through with those parents of hers. Have some empathy. Some of you were forced in conversion “therapy.” She was forced to be someone she wasn’t.
by Anonymous | reply 106 | August 8, 2021 5:48 AM |
I'll choose Lady Colin over the trans olympic weight lifter. I can't take her for very long, but feel she is credible. I love the way she places her jewelry on scarves etc.
by Anonymous | reply 107 | August 8, 2021 6:14 AM |
[quote]titles go through the male line. Typically, but not invariably. There have been exceptions, like Lord Mountbatten's eldest daughter, and one of the Duchesses of Marlborough in the 18th century
R103. There have been subsequent Letters Patent written by monarchs since the 18th century that differ from what applies today.
by Anonymous | reply 108 | August 8, 2021 6:24 AM |
r101 I suspect you are right. What do you think about her comments about Fergie? Is she right to say Fergie needs to get in the background now for the sake of her daughters?
by Anonymous | reply 109 | August 8, 2021 6:26 AM |
She's a man. Pics of him as a young man were posted in a previous thread.
by Anonymous | reply 110 | August 8, 2021 6:31 AM |
r110 Link please?
by Anonymous | reply 111 | August 8, 2021 6:32 AM |
She has female hips and no Adam’s apple, even when young. I believe she is a hermaphrodite.
by Anonymous | reply 112 | August 8, 2021 6:36 AM |
R111. You can refer to the Letters Patent from the monarchy in 1996 after Diana was divorced from Charles and Sarah was divorced from Andrew and each respectively lost their HRH status and became Diana, Princess of Wales and Sarah, Duchess of York.
by Anonymous | reply 113 | August 8, 2021 6:43 AM |
Male, female, or somewhere in between, Lady C. dislikes the same people I do, so he/she/it/they/them are okay in my book.
by Anonymous | reply 114 | August 8, 2021 7:03 AM |
[R110]
she was raised as a boy and young man, and her parents made her wear boy's clothes and wear her hair in a man's cut. the doctors at the time thought it was best that she be raised as a boy , because in those days, men were considered superior to women.
her husband beat her up so badly that she needed reconstructive surgery on the right side of her face.
[R109]
i think Fergie will go where the money and high lifestyle is. It's eugenie that I can't figure out, except that Charles is trying to streamline the brf, and that would put the Yorks out on the street. i've had my eye on eugenie since she loaned harry her cottage to do the bit with ed sheeran. now she's living in frog cottage and supposedly paying rent to the harkles. That means that eugenie and the harkles have been in contact with each other on a regular basis.
by Anonymous | reply 115 | August 8, 2021 7:03 AM |
[quote] now she's living in frog cottage and supposedly paying rent to the harkles
I'm not doubting that Megs and Harry are charging them rent, but the Harkles don't even OWN the fucking house, so how they are getting away with charging rent is beyond me.
by Anonymous | reply 116 | August 8, 2021 7:10 AM |
Fergie has been a tabloid superstar for decades but once a grifting whore, always a grifting whore.
She comes trotting out on her piggy feet every few years when she has something new to peddle, in this case a new book, and the media still lap it up even though she's been pushin' the same swill now for 4 decades.
Bitch has no scruples.
by Anonymous | reply 117 | August 8, 2021 7:40 AM |
^^Big fan of Sarah, Duchess of York. Don't be so fucking cruel.
by Anonymous | reply 118 | August 8, 2021 8:19 AM |
r115 I think Beatrice is the smarter sister. Eugenie seems one to be careful off.
by Anonymous | reply 119 | August 8, 2021 8:23 AM |
I hope they cast Dawn French as Fergie in the next season of The Crown.
by Anonymous | reply 120 | August 8, 2021 8:25 AM |
[quote]They haven't stopped her which shows how careful Lady Colin is in what she says and how she says it.
It says no such thing. I know the old "they haven't sued so it must be true" canard will never die, but it's right up there with "a moderator deleting my post violates my Constitutional rights," both are stupid falsehoods that will always be in the mainstream no matter what.
[quote]I have to say how amazing it is that she stands up to them. I admire her courage.
You cannot be serious.
by Anonymous | reply 121 | August 8, 2021 8:31 AM |
[quote]She owns a castle. I don't think she is a con woman.
Wow.
by Anonymous | reply 122 | August 8, 2021 8:37 AM |
Correct R121.
by Anonymous | reply 123 | August 8, 2021 8:39 AM |
The European and British royals and aristocracy are all trash. White trash with money. Some of them would fit right into a trailer park.
by Anonymous | reply 124 | August 8, 2021 9:00 AM |
My correct was meant for r113 and not r121
by Anonymous | reply 125 | August 8, 2021 9:09 AM |
R116 - The Sussexes "own" the lease and are subletting to Eugenie & Jack.
This happens in NYC all the time.
R103 - In the British peerage, some titles can pass "to" a female (if there are no male heirs...ie...Dukedom of Fife) and Marlborough) and some titles can pass "thru" a female (ie...Dukedom of Northumberland and Roxburghe). It all depends on how the "remainder" was written at the time the peerage title was written. I find passing to and/or thru a female more common with Scottish titles
by Anonymous | reply 126 | August 8, 2021 2:54 PM |
R8 - Really? Exactly what site do you think this is?
VOX? NPR? PRO PUBLICA?
This is Datalounge, the premier gossip site in the galaxy.
I think it's time you put on a hairshirt and went into a monastery.
by Anonymous | reply 127 | August 8, 2021 3:10 PM |
Lady George is not a man. She has a functional vagina. I should know I paid for it.
by Anonymous | reply 128 | August 8, 2021 5:14 PM |
R115 - The York girls are both rich by any standards, if not as rich as Charles and William, they won't ever be "out on the street". They were never working royals, so they were never on the Sovereign Grant, so there's nothing they'll be out of as they never had it to begin with.
Their titles aren't in any danger, they will die HRHs, and they are so far down the line of succession (10th and 11th) that they are meaningless.
Andrew did try to get them onto the royal gravy train AFTER William married Kate, but it was a transparent, as well as lame effort and went nowhere. It was way too late in the day. And I don't think Bea was ever even interested. She's got "slack" written all over her.
But I'll agree that there's something hungry about Eugenie. She wants something, and maybe she's angrier than Bea about how Charles treated her mother.
As I said on another thread about all this, think Tessio in "The Godfather" - Michael Corleone's assessment: "It's a smart move. Tessio was always smarter."
But not smart enough, in the end.
I don't know what game Eugenie is playing, but the next man up is her Uncle Charles, and the long game is going to the Cambridges. Maybe Eugenie thinks the Sussexes can get her and Jack into the Hollywood scene.
Euge ain't hurting for money, but you never know: for some people that next pasture can look very tempting.
And the Harkles' lease on the FrogCott is up in seven months. Technically, anyone with that lease is paying rent to the Crown Estates. The Harkles are only getting back what they've already paid in. Once that lease ends, it's up to the Queen who gets to live there. With Harry's and Meghan's last possessions taken out of the house a couple of weeks ago, the handwriting is probably on the wall that the Harkles' hold on the place has a rapidly approaching sell-by date.
They don't own it, they can't sell it, and they can't rent it out. They have no control over it. Any revenues generated by a Crown Estate property go back into the Crown Estates treasury and thence back into the Sovereign Grant to recompense the taxpayers. The Queen may collect the rent, but she can't keep it.
So the big deal about the Harkles opening "their" home to the Brooksbanks is a bit smoke and mirrors. It's not the Harkles' home: they just least it from the Crown Estates.
We'll see what happens in spring 2022, as the Platinum Jubilee gets into full swing.
by Anonymous | reply 129 | August 8, 2021 10:49 PM |
As if Fergie, after a lifetime of putting her feet in her mouth, is going to stop now because Lady C scolded her.
She shut up fast after the Queen called her into BP when she started defending Andrew after that train wreck interview and talking about how actually, she tried to persuade him NOT to do it, after it was widely circulated that she had persuaded him that he had to get "his side" of the story out there . . .
That's the only time she's ever been told in no uncertain terms to shut the fuck up, and she did. The rest of the time, they've just treated her like the Village Idiot.
Oh, wait . . . .!
by Anonymous | reply 130 | August 8, 2021 11:17 PM |
R95 He isn't her husband anymore. And, that's always been an issue in these divorces. If Andrew did want to marry again, there would be one HRH The Duchess of York, and one Sarah, Duchess of York.
Since the Wales and York divorces, I believe an amendment was passed that in the event of a divorce, the wife loses the title altogether.
It is doubtful that Charles and Camilla would have married whilst Diana was alive unless Diana had also remarried, and for just that reason. C&C just got lucky in that respect.
Although, in hindsight, if Diana had lived, whether she remarried or not, the Harry and Meghan Show would never have happened. Harry wouldn't have been able to use his mother as the excuse for all his bad behaviour and mental health issues.
Charles probably now also believes that it's far too high a price to pay for being able to marry a woman he'd have had by his side, anyway, for the rest of his life.
by Anonymous | reply 131 | August 9, 2021 4:18 PM |
r130 Fair point but I reckon Lady C has been hearing stuff in Upper class high society expressing increased frustration and anger with Fergie and she is trying in her own way to warn her to tone it down drastically or trouble beckons. In a roundabout way she might actually be trying to help Fergie by giving her a heads up kind of?
by Anonymous | reply 132 | August 9, 2021 4:28 PM |
With regard to LCC, when people don't like the message they go after the messenger.
by Anonymous | reply 133 | August 9, 2021 4:40 PM |
r133 wry true
by Anonymous | reply 135 | August 9, 2021 7:39 PM |
Fergie's ex is in the news again. U.S. vs U.K.
by Anonymous | reply 136 | August 11, 2021 2:30 AM |
r136 I think he may well stop being her ex because I have a feeling they will remarry.
by Anonymous | reply 137 | August 11, 2021 4:28 AM |
I don't get why the obnoxious "Lady C" get's so promoted on here. Sure she had a shitty life and I hate all the attacks she gets for that. This doesn't take away from the fact she is a really nasty woman.
I don't buy for one minute that she has friends in the royal family, I do believe that she knows lady x who knows lady y who met countess z at a party etc... she is just a gossip hound and a very mean person to boot.
by Anonymous | reply 138 | August 11, 2021 3:50 PM |
Her last vlog - yesterday - had 113,000 views and 8200 likes. There were 101 dislikes. Lots of people like her and a few people don't. You are one of those who doesn't like her. You are not going to change anyone's opinion with your negative posts about her. We get it that are jealous of her success. BTW this is a gossip site and we celebrate gossips like her!
by Anonymous | reply 139 | August 11, 2021 4:17 PM |
What a bold and brave stand for a Brit these days — to say something anti-Diana/Harry/Meghan
by Anonymous | reply 140 | August 11, 2021 4:23 PM |
The frauen love her
by Anonymous | reply 141 | August 11, 2021 8:01 PM |
r139 runs to the usual "you are jealous" excuse. We can make our own minds up about how we feel. I don't find her a fun gossip I find her a nasty aggressive liar. Each to their own.
by Anonymous | reply 142 | August 11, 2021 8:34 PM |
Why do they keep asking the opinion of that sad, vicious creature?
by Anonymous | reply 143 | August 11, 2021 9:18 PM |
R10 - she was in charge of Harrod’s hampsters.
by Anonymous | reply 144 | August 11, 2021 9:21 PM |
Hello kettle? Pot here. You’re black.
by Anonymous | reply 145 | August 11, 2021 9:22 PM |
Thinking Harry is a twat should not make people like this arsewipe . They can both be twats.
by Anonymous | reply 146 | August 11, 2021 10:04 PM |
I enjoy her videos when she's talking about yesteryear society, but the Meghan and Harry stuff is mind numbing.
by Anonymous | reply 147 | August 11, 2021 10:52 PM |
R139 George.
by Anonymous | reply 148 | August 11, 2021 11:22 PM |
We heard for *decades* that Andrew and Fergie would remarry once Philip died. Well, he’s dead, what’s keeping them?
by Anonymous | reply 149 | August 11, 2021 11:49 PM |
There was covid and the crops were poor, give us time and we will have a good stock of rotten cabbage to throw if those two turds show up in a carriage.
Love the British public xx
by Anonymous | reply 150 | August 12, 2021 12:00 AM |
r149 An awareness of what indecent haste looks like? Few who predicted that ever said immediately .
by Anonymous | reply 151 | August 12, 2021 12:22 AM |
Fergie would remarry him. I don’t think he’d remarry her, even to help rehabilitate his image.
by Anonymous | reply 152 | August 12, 2021 12:35 AM |
The lady is a tran.
by Anonymous | reply 153 | August 15, 2021 5:49 PM |
Lady Colin Campbell needs to shut up once and for all.
by Anonymous | reply 154 | August 15, 2021 5:51 PM |
I love how Lady C makes the Celebitches et al. itchy. Seethe seethe seethe.
by Anonymous | reply 155 | August 15, 2021 6:09 PM |
Celebitchy and Lady C both mesmerize the frauen, just different camps. They are equally detestable.
by Anonymous | reply 156 | August 16, 2021 6:18 AM |
I don't watch her videos but I think Lady C is great.
Anyone giving the Royals (and especially MeAgain and Harry) grief is a-ok in my book.
by Anonymous | reply 157 | August 16, 2021 6:55 AM |
Lady C is also a great admirer of Ivanka Trump. Her viewers are mostly uneducated fraus who assume she understands the inner workings of the BRF. If only.
by Anonymous | reply 158 | August 16, 2021 7:25 AM |
R158 Which would be ridiculous because how could Lady C be more knowledgeable about the BRF than the hundreds old queens on Data Lounge who are notoriously well versed in EVERY single piece of arcane information when it comes to the inner workings of the Court of St. James!
by Anonymous | reply 159 | August 16, 2021 7:29 AM |
R159 Precisely, my dear
by Anonymous | reply 160 | August 16, 2021 7:31 AM |
Lady C is obviously a senile in Dementia.
by Anonymous | reply 161 | August 16, 2021 9:19 AM |
Lady C has no empathy she proved that by attacking Virginia Guiffre whose been proven to be truthful over and over. There’s plenty of court records to corroborate VG’s version which is why Andrew has remained silent and hiding under mummy’s skirt. As for Fergie she can speak on Diana because they were cousins and lifelong friends even if they did have a falling out. I’m sure Di would be loving towards both her sons because she adored them both. That’s not really controversial but neither fan base likes to admit Di would do her best to make peace in this situation. Lady C is vile she makes a ton of money on YouTube and that’s what motivates her to feed the rabid racist anti Meghan trolls. Pure Greed and malice plus fan fiction.
by Anonymous | reply 162 | August 16, 2021 11:54 AM |
P. Andrew will only marry Ferg. if she can provide him the nubile youngens' he likes to boff. She is too mouthy & dumb to provide him any cover,
by Anonymous | reply 163 | August 16, 2021 1:49 PM |
R115 Men sometimes attack trannies if they were deceived by them.
by Anonymous | reply 164 | August 21, 2021 6:29 PM |
Lady C had her two Russian sons on her latest attack video. One of them's cute - the one on the left, Dima I think, seemed a bit distant?
by Anonymous | reply 165 | August 22, 2021 9:19 AM |
* oh the video's an hour, but the boys are only on the first five minutes or so.
by Anonymous | reply 166 | August 22, 2021 9:20 AM |
r165 Russian born but brought up in the UK. Most likely think of themselves as british not Russian. I think the one on the left was more shy but livened up a bit before he went off screen.
by Anonymous | reply 167 | August 22, 2021 12:45 PM |
Lady C is a nasty shit bag and so what if she is friend of a friend of the office dogsbody of the Queen.
If we are talking you tubers, I only watch this woman now and again. As an American woman and a black woman who has spent time in the UK, she at least has some perspective on this and isn't all hysterical hatred.
by Anonymous | reply 168 | August 22, 2021 3:31 PM |
r168 She has a Lady C book prominently featured on a bookshelf in the background in many of her videos and she once had a discussion with Lady C and featured the video chat on her channel. They seemed to get on well.
by Anonymous | reply 169 | August 22, 2021 5:41 PM |
The son with facial hair on her left is an utter moron.
by Anonymous | reply 170 | August 25, 2021 1:50 AM |
She looks lovely. I like her a lot!
by Anonymous | reply 171 | October 24, 2021 6:43 AM |
Pack yourself and your many agendas in, "Surviving Angel" and find a home elsewhere.
Tedious beyond belief.
by Anonymous | reply 172 | October 24, 2021 9:52 AM |
Diana probably would have been proud considering what she had to do to find happiness.
by Anonymous | reply 173 | October 24, 2021 9:56 AM |
Of course Diana would have been proud of Harry and Meghan. Where did this tranny come from?
by Anonymous | reply 174 | October 24, 2021 10:11 AM |
That freak is telling someone else to stop being an embarrassment?
Well, ain't that rich.
by Anonymous | reply 175 | October 24, 2021 10:33 AM |
I really like Lady C. I believe she is totally credible. She is a published author and I guarantee that her books have been thoroughly vettrd prior to publication. Don't know about her podcast.
by Anonymous | reply 176 | November 21, 2021 3:46 PM |
Lady C has perfected the art of attracting attention and making money from people who follow the royal family like a soap opera, aren’t well-versed in history, and aren’t good at evaluating whether sources are credible or not. She does the same thing as psychics, playing up what she can tell her audience wants to hear (thus why she started praising the Trumps after her rant about Meghan Markle attracted a bunch of trashy bigots to her YouTube page).
Now, Fergie really is outrageously trashy as well! But she was born into the upper classes, unlike Lady C. A good lesson that social class by birth doesn’t guarantee class in action.
by Anonymous | reply 177 | November 21, 2021 4:03 PM |
R51Because of asshole trolls like you . Go away
by Anonymous | reply 178 | November 21, 2021 4:06 PM |
I cant fathom having parents like fergie and andrew....how embaressing ! But bea seems to be the only adult in the group. Eugenie likes to suck the markles toes.
by Anonymous | reply 179 | November 21, 2021 4:14 PM |