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Apple to begin scanning your iPhone images for child porn

Isn’t this how the Nazis got their start, policing in the name of morality?

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by Anonymousreply 115September 14, 2021 2:26 AM

BIG BROTHER isn't just on CBS....

by Anonymousreply 1August 6, 2021 1:37 AM

Yes, OP, numerous threads already

by Anonymousreply 2August 6, 2021 1:38 AM

We are not spying ON you.....We are spying FOR you......Big Difference......Also while we are rummaging thru your phone we will also be scanning your PERSONAL PHOTOS and Private Letters.....Just in case the Government needs them in the future or if PRESIDENT TRUMP subpoenas them in 2024.....

by Anonymousreply 3August 6, 2021 1:40 AM

When mom takes a photo of her kid in the tub because it's a cute pic, do the cops bust down the door just to investigate?

by Anonymousreply 4August 6, 2021 2:00 AM

there are android phones available, also open source android OS independent of google...I am very glad I don't use crapple products and I actively avoid them.

by Anonymousreply 5August 6, 2021 4:07 AM

We promise picking thru your every letter, song, or photo will help us deliver a better Apple experience. Honest. ..And we only share YOUR information with OUR trusted partners. It's not like we want World Domination or anything.

by Anonymousreply 6August 6, 2021 4:18 AM

Im OK with it. Everything is a slippery slope. If it helps capture abusers, so be it. There are literally 728 million iPhones in use worldwide....Plenty have adult content. As dan savage says, we have porn studios in our pockets. So if they use their software to find child abusers, so be it

by Anonymousreply 7August 6, 2021 5:05 AM

Removing ADULT content from CRAIGSLIST was the first move. It hasn't curbed any crime and that's why ZERO other countries have done it. If anything, before banning the Personal Ads, CL helped LOCATE where crime was happening. Not to mention Craigslist is now virtually valueless--and the real Craig probably couldn't give it away now. Does Apple even pay living wages to the CHINESE workers building their phones so the executives can make MORE bonus money?

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by Anonymousreply 8August 6, 2021 5:20 AM

R7 read again! it will scan your photos to match those in the database, it does nothing to capture the abusers, it only catches people who are sharing or downloading the photos, which brings the question, what's the purpose here? Stop people downloading CP?

by Anonymousreply 9August 6, 2021 5:23 AM

Some of you DL Queens who drool over Love Victor might have to explain to the Apple Police about watching a character who is 15 kissing another guy who is supposed to be 15....Your Michael Cimino Thumbs Ups will be the next thing analyzed...I wonder if the Apple Police will sympathize with your "The actor is LEGAL" defense? ....I guess we will wait and see....LoL

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by Anonymousreply 10August 6, 2021 5:34 AM

I don’t know… kind of weird.

Meh. I have nothing to hide. And I’m getting a Galaxy next month.

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by Anonymousreply 11August 6, 2021 5:39 AM

How soon until they start scanning your text messages or voicemails for hate speech?

by Anonymousreply 12August 6, 2021 5:40 AM

Did people delete the videos they downloaded off of Pornhub after the purge?

by Anonymousreply 13August 6, 2021 5:45 AM

That’s not what they’re looking for, R13.

by Anonymousreply 14August 6, 2021 6:02 AM

R14 = Thats what YOU think.....Read the small print....Even Walmart ----->>> "Information we collect-------"Biometric information, such as imagery of the iris, retina, and fingerprints. Audio and video recordings"......((LINK)).....When you touch the screen to start scanning---YOU are giving THEM your fingerprints......You poor clueless souls....

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by Anonymousreply 15August 6, 2021 6:33 AM

R15, what are you talking about? My point is that they’re not looking for PornHub videos. They’re looking for blatant unambiguous stuff.

by Anonymousreply 16August 6, 2021 6:37 AM

OMG, gurlz!!!! What should I do? Advice, please!!!

TIA.

by Anonymousreply 17August 6, 2021 6:40 AM

R4 they are taking images of verified child porn, then scanning for matches of it on photo albums.

by Anonymousreply 18August 6, 2021 6:41 AM

[quote]How soon until they start scanning your text messages or voicemails for hate speech?

Heh heh heh!... THAT started a LONG time ago.

by Anonymousreply 19August 6, 2021 6:46 AM

I thought I read it was just for images you store or upload to your cloud account.

How would they be looking at pictures you put on your Pictures? I am not a techie person obviously.

by Anonymousreply 20August 6, 2021 7:19 AM

Wait until Apples "terms update" and they put OTHER THINGS in their small print on page 265--that they know you won't read.... You are going to be giving away your chat logs, your fingerprints, your address books etc etc.

by Anonymousreply 21August 6, 2021 8:07 AM

Hold up... did Tim Apple approve this?

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by Anonymousreply 22August 6, 2021 9:14 AM

There's absolutely no reason why tech companies haven't eradicated the constant flow of porn featuring kids. I personally think Facebook, Twitter, and other social media firms should be taking the lead, not apple.

by Anonymousreply 23August 6, 2021 9:41 AM

I mean, I'm petty sure countries like Germany are open to having Apple find Nazi images, as they're illegal, but I don't think they're doing that in America anytime soon.

by Anonymousreply 24August 6, 2021 1:41 PM

[quote]what's the purpose here? Stop people downloading CP?

Isn't that a worthy goal?

by Anonymousreply 25August 6, 2021 1:44 PM

[quote]You are going to be giving away your chat logs, your fingerprints, your address books etc etc.

it's possible, but I've never used the touch feature, so that is out

by Anonymousreply 26August 6, 2021 2:02 PM

R25 Don't think so! Soon people will say if we can read people's mind to prevent crimes from happening, à la minority report, that would be a worthy cause to pursue.

by Anonymousreply 27August 7, 2021 3:51 AM

R26 = They can get your fingerprints from Kroger or Walmart. There is a REASON you have to touch a screen..They are scanning your prints. They even say so on their webpage. They are also recording your voice.

by Anonymousreply 28August 7, 2021 9:10 AM

R5 yeah I don’t blame you, mate. I’m due a new phone (been clinging to a melting SE for years), and even I wasn’t frankly I’m fucking sick of struggling against AppleID & iCloud (such an extortionate, glitchy, shitty verification/storage option). Thought I’d get on with the company’s product better, but it turns out after five years of gritting my teeth, actually I hate it here at Apple, Inc.

Could you or another kind poster recommend an Open-source capable Android device that’s really durable and easy to use? (and also link a way to transfer data onto one from iCloud?) Much obliged.

by Anonymousreply 29August 7, 2021 1:48 PM

Too bad the "Freedom Phone" is a scam. However, there should be a lot of money in it for someone who knows how to utilize the technology.

by Anonymousreply 30August 7, 2021 5:26 PM

"Soon people will say if we can read people's mind to prevent crimes from happening, à la minority report, that would be a worthy cause to pursue."

Um, except downloading child porn actually is a crime. Is it just a bunch of Matt Gaetz clones posting in this thread?

by Anonymousreply 31August 8, 2021 2:12 AM

You're missing the point R31.

In terms of scanning iCloud for CP content, this does nothing in terms of stopping this content being made in the first place, it won't affect those producing such content, only those viewing it. So how long until Apple announce a feature in the next next iOS that uses AI to scan videos as they're filming in real time under the guise of stopping said content being made. And suddenly there is another "feature" that is open to abuse and expansion over time.

Ios15 also brings the feature where by iMessages are scanned by AI so that if someone under 16 either receives or sends an X rated picture, it will arrive blurred and if the person opens it, it will send an alert to their parent (if they sign up to this feature). Once again it's a slippery slope. The path is paved and who is to say this can't be used for other types of images in future - anti govt protests, riots etc and alert the authorities.

Apple have announced these features under the guise of child safety knowing full well no-one is going to ague against protecting children. But then the backdoor is creeping open and who knows how this tech could be used in the future. Theres no going back.

This is very dangerous.

by Anonymousreply 32August 8, 2021 9:33 AM

[quote]I mean, I'm petty sure countries like Germany are open to having Apple find Nazi images, as they're illegal, but I don't think they're doing that in America anytime soon.

This comment is so stupid.

Yes, Germany does not protect PUBLIC hate speech, Nazi glorification, or holocaust denial under its free speech laws (you can still display your Nazi flag in your private home) but, in contrast to the US, privacy laws and data protection are much stricter there. Remember the hissy fit, American companies had after the EU had passed their General Data Protection Regulation?

by Anonymousreply 33August 8, 2021 9:39 AM

Apple really is becoming the worse.

by Anonymousreply 34August 8, 2021 10:06 AM

This is like when the UK tried to implement an automatic internet porn ban. You had to call and give your info to get it taken off.

by Anonymousreply 35August 8, 2021 10:08 AM

When is APPLE taking their rocket to space?.....

by Anonymousreply 36August 8, 2021 10:24 AM

I find it disturbing that they keep a database of child porn as a master copy to match photos against. Who is updating this database? Pervs? Will they need therapy like the Facebook moderators?

by Anonymousreply 37August 8, 2021 10:41 AM

[quote]Isn’t this how the Nazis got their start

The Nazis did not get their start by showing faux concern over child porn just so they could get access to everyone's personal information.

I don't care for tech companies spying on me but I also know they've already been doing it for years. Read one thread on Datalounge about that Legend of Lylah Clare movie and the next day my YouTube suggestions are all about Kim Novak and Lylah Clare clips.

by Anonymousreply 38August 8, 2021 11:02 AM

True Story....A few days ago I flagged a FB post because a guy posted "MURDER" (in capital letters) but spelled it MURXER...In the same post he used the phrase "over my dead body" and "coming after you"---other things were mentioned like choking unconcisousness, abuse, etc etc. ....It was long really disturbing post directed at a specific person. After I flagged it FB said it did NOT violate their terms of service. So much for "moderating". ..I just checked it is still up......Moral of the story is when you want to threaten someone with murder on FB---just misspell murder and you should be good to go....

by Anonymousreply 39August 9, 2021 1:18 AM

[quote] Read one thread on Datalounge about that Legend of Lylah Clare movie and the next day my YouTube suggestions are all about Kim Novak and Lylah Clare clips.

Honey, your watch history is associated with your YouTube account and browser history. You can delete that. How old are you?

by Anonymousreply 40August 9, 2021 1:38 AM

R40 I'm become very wary of clicking on Youtube links, especially when there aren't as many views.

by Anonymousreply 41August 9, 2021 1:48 AM

If the contents of your private devices are available some entity to scan for illegal content, who’s to say illegal content can’t be DEPOSITED via the same route? Slippery slope, indeed.

by Anonymousreply 42August 9, 2021 2:10 AM

The Nazis got their start murdering political adversaries, including journalists. Spare me your histrionics, OP.

by Anonymousreply 43August 9, 2021 2:20 AM

R43 Perhaps the OP should have said Stalin or Stasi.

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by Anonymousreply 44August 9, 2021 2:23 AM

"This is very dangerous."

Um, no. If it bothers you so bad, then stop using Apple products.

by Anonymousreply 45August 9, 2021 2:25 AM

R10 Time to delete your selfies Karen.

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by Anonymousreply 46August 9, 2021 2:50 AM

And soon all computers.

by Anonymousreply 47August 9, 2021 2:55 AM

They’ll see some fucked up shit in my pictures but nothing illegal

by Anonymousreply 48August 9, 2021 3:25 AM

Come on, r40, you can't possibly be that stupid to have completely misunderstood what I said.

OP was being an idiot troll when he said that Apple spying on users means they are literally acting like Nazis. I was pointing out that wasn't even close to true, and besides, every large company spies on people already, and I used an example that I thought most DLers could relate to.

by Anonymousreply 49August 9, 2021 3:56 AM

[quote] This is like when the UK tried to implement an automatic internet porn ban. You had to call and give your info to get off.

FTFY

by Anonymousreply 50August 9, 2021 4:58 AM

It is indeed a slippery slope to automatically scan private content and it can lead to a lot of problems, but on the other hand child porn is the fucking worst and there should have been a concerted effort to ban this shit a long time ago.

Personally I have an android phone right now, but still no illusions about complete privacy there. I mean, Google basically owns my ass - they already know where I go, where I've been, what I've looked up and without trying to sound like a conspiracy theorist, I imagine that much more data gets saved or screened by intelligence services than we're aware of, so...

R9 At least by keeping people from downloading and exchanging CP you destroy the market and therefore hopefully reduce the demand and production.

by Anonymousreply 51August 9, 2021 4:59 AM

Our cry is always " What about the children !"

by Anonymousreply 52August 9, 2021 1:58 PM

^ Unless of course our precious little ones are being shot in class or exposed to COVID .

by Anonymousreply 53August 9, 2021 1:59 PM

R48 all they’re gonna find in my iCloud is relic memes, screenshots of tweets, and stills of pro-soccer players (a few with their shirts off, is that bad?).

by Anonymousreply 54August 9, 2021 7:35 PM

Apple's further clarification

[quote]Apple's CSAM detection capability is built solely to detect known CSAM images stored in iCloud Photos that have been identified by experts at NCMEC (National Center for Missing and Exploited Children) and other child safety groups...Furthermore, Apple conducts human review before making a report to NCMEC. In a case where the system flags photos that do not match known CSAM images, the account would not be disabled and no report would be filed to NCMEC.

NCMEC has about 20,000 photos in their database, and Apple's statement made it clear if the flagged photos do not match any of those 20,000 photos, they will not file a report no matter how "bad" the photos might look like to their human reviewers, I believe this approach is to protect Apple themselves from the lawsuits since they have no idea how the photos were taken, the context and how the photos ended up in the user's phone, be it exploitation or not, Apple has no interest finding out if the photos are not one of 20,000 labelled ones.

PS how many people want strangers/human reviewers to look their photos without consent?

by Anonymousreply 55August 9, 2021 8:03 PM

I thought Stasi was canceled, r44?

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by Anonymousreply 56August 9, 2021 8:21 PM

I hate the concept of child porn but this crosses a line. There have already been too many instances of photo companies flagging innocent pics of kids taking a bath and calling it porn.

by Anonymousreply 57August 9, 2021 8:31 PM

[quote] Apple really is becoming the worse.

Oh, dear.

by Anonymousreply 58August 9, 2021 9:10 PM

Need to point out, the new photo scanning policy only applies to Apple users in the US, Apple cannot and will not do that in any other countries. It's funny how many people here in the US voice their concern what if countries like Russia, China or Saudi Arab force Apple to scan other content like political messages etc, and those "concerned" experts use that as their reasoning why Apple should not embed or utilize such technology in their products, but the fact is Apple can't even do that in any other countries. It's almost like Apple is hoping/expecting you to raise such concerns, so they can come out and firmly deny that.

[quote] Let us be clear, this technology is limited to detecting CSAM stored in iCloud and we will not accede to any government’s request to expand it.

Now your grave "concern" for political dissent in China is being taken care of, everyone should be happy! We will roll out this new policy in the coming weeks as planned in the US.

by Anonymousreply 59August 10, 2021 2:45 AM

^ Do you honestly believe Apple is going to pay thousands of employees to look at peoples bathtub pictures.

by Anonymousreply 60August 10, 2021 4:20 AM

R50 were you honestly surprised when this news came out 2 years ago?

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by Anonymousreply 61August 10, 2021 7:31 AM

[quote] Do you honestly believe Apple is going to pay thousands of employees to look at peoples bathtub pictures.

So you honestly believe they wont look at what else you might have in your photos?

by Anonymousreply 62August 10, 2021 3:05 PM

Does anyone honestly believe they don't already look at your photos or let intelligence services look through the photos? The only difference is that it's not official as of now.

by Anonymousreply 63August 10, 2021 9:29 PM

R63 what are you talking here? the difference is now they are looking into your photos by default and they don't need your consent. Previously they need a probable cause signed by a judge then they can check your phone without your knowledge.

by Anonymousreply 64August 11, 2021 6:22 AM

If they were removing images of gay sex between consenting adults, then you could call it Nazism.

by Anonymousreply 65August 11, 2021 6:23 AM

Algorithms are scanning your pics. There is not some warehouse full of thousands of Apple employees looking at millions of your vacay photos. They are too cheap to pay for human review you clueless twits.

by Anonymousreply 66August 11, 2021 2:08 PM

R66 and Algorithms are flawless?

by Anonymousreply 67August 11, 2021 7:30 PM

I foresee suicides from false accusations and arrests.

by Anonymousreply 68August 14, 2021 6:47 PM

What is considered child porn? The pic parents took of their toddler in the tub?

by Anonymousreply 69August 14, 2021 6:49 PM

You better believe it, perv!

by Anonymousreply 70August 14, 2021 6:56 PM

Hmmm 728 million iphones and 3 billion Android phones. The only issue with the latter is that they come from multiple vendors and have multiple different models of phone. Best of luck there.

by Anonymousreply 71August 14, 2021 7:24 PM

R69 I'm pretty sure there are enough very obvious and clear instances of child porn, so we don't have to act like all that happens on the internet is parents taking innocent snapshots of their toddlers.

by Anonymousreply 72August 14, 2021 10:15 PM

R72, yes, but parents taking pictures of their kids in the bath have been brought up on charges of child porn

by Anonymousreply 73August 14, 2021 10:22 PM

Don’t have kids, problem solved

by Anonymousreply 74August 14, 2021 10:28 PM

R4 That reminds me of story from like 20 years ago where a photo developer employee reported these parents to the police for child abuse because some of the photos he developed were, very obviously, fun family photos of their kids in the tub.

And the police took him seriously.

by Anonymousreply 75August 15, 2021 2:22 AM
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by Anonymousreply 76August 21, 2021 8:29 PM

Abolish consent, problem solved

by Anonymousreply 77August 21, 2021 8:32 PM

[quote] Isn’t this how the Nazis got their start, policing in the name of morality?

Yes, this is exactly how they got their start, scanning iPhones for child porn.

What a brilliant analogy. So convincing and powerful.

by Anonymousreply 78August 21, 2021 8:38 PM

R78 Yes, next they'll be checking your attic for Jews - a clear progression.

by Anonymousreply 79August 21, 2021 8:48 PM

As Usual Bill Maher nailed taking this on....And the idiots who cannot turn of their fucking phones......

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by Anonymousreply 80August 21, 2021 11:13 PM

If you oppose warrantless searches you must be a pedophile.

by Anonymousreply 81August 22, 2021 2:59 AM

Once again, American people fell for Apple's dirty trick, I said American people here I will explain later. First, let's rewind how the whole thing unfolded in public

1. Apple announced they will scan iPhone and iCloud for CP automatically without users' consent (a tiny footnote from their announcement: limited to USA users only)

2. As expected, a lot concerns were raised. For average users, it's the intrusion of privacy, you can find tons of comments online, people are not happy about this feature forced on them, but the "disapproval" voices you heard from news media and tech blogs are slightly different, they focused more on something else or as they claimed, something BIGGER and more important, this feature opened the door for mass surveillance , what if China, Russia or countries like Saudi Arab demand scanning for political or social messages?

3. After intense debates played out in news media for days, Apple issued a clarification. First we are very sorry for the confusion and miscommunication, but let us assure "you", by "you", they meant the news media and tech blogs, the function will be limited to scanning for CP only, it will not expand to other areas and we will never yield to the demand of other governments (that is China, Russia...)

4. After the clarification, the "noises" died down by the end of the week, which completed the 5-day news cycle.

Back to American people, as mentioned the scanning is limited to American users only, not in other countries, why not? Now please ask yourself, on what earth you think adversary countries like China or Russia would allow an American company to scan their users phones, forget FISA court and NSA, an American company from USA with unrestricted access to Chinese or Russian iPhones? That's NEVER gonna happen! The grave concern of mass surveillance in China or Russia is a complete bullshit! They would like to have an easy and handy tool to watch their own citizen, but it won't be Apple, an American company cannot be trusted here! Then why the news media and tech blog experts loudly asked questions based on a non-existent scenario and made a huge fuss about it?

Were these people paid by Apple to raise fake concerns and divert the real ones? - maybe!

Were these "smart" people too dumb to realize they were played by Apple? - more than likely!

There is no way that Apple didn't expect the backlash from this policy, they were fully aware of its impact and fully prepared the people will come out against it. But to reduce the negativity, Apple carefully planned the whole thing, they issued an announcement with minimum amount of information on what they will scan and without any context on why and how they will do it, or whether they are capable of scanning other things like text etc... because they were waiting for you to ask questions so they can answer them to disperse your concerns. If Apple had issued a plan with all the details, scanning your photos to match a database of about 20,000 photos, and the function is limited to photos only not texts, and they will not do it in other countries especially won't expand the capability to the demands of governments like China or Russia etc...there be no questions to be asked and the concern will be solely on invasion of privacy of American people, and that's very hard to defend for Apple. So by letting you ask questions, especially the stupid ones on China or Russia, Apple can proudly answer them "No we will not listen to Chinese government..."

"We are sorry for the confusion...?" No, they were not sorry, they were smiling, the media played along exactly as Apple had expected, turned the focus away from your privacy to the government of China and Russia, and Apple came out on top again as the fighter for freedom, the invasion of privacy? it's just a "tiny" noise now, Apple didn't even have to answer.

by Anonymousreply 82August 22, 2021 8:17 AM

This is really insidious. They start with child porn, because anyone who would complain about it must be a pedo, right? You're not a pedo, ARE YA?

Then, slowly, they'll start monitoring other things until finally if you text a drug dealer for Adderall, they'll automatically alert the police.

I sincerely hope the ACLU is trying to stop this.

by Anonymousreply 83August 22, 2021 9:24 AM

The ACLU is worthless

I cancelled my membership

by Anonymousreply 84August 22, 2021 12:23 PM

.........

by Anonymousreply 85September 11, 2021 12:59 AM

That is messed up

by Anonymousreply 86September 11, 2021 1:07 AM

I bought a Galaxy Fold 3. It’s great.

by Anonymousreply 87September 11, 2021 1:09 AM

Plus I just read that the govt is gonna have access to your Venmo, PayPal, crypto, ebay etc accounts. This will never end...

by Anonymousreply 88September 11, 2021 1:13 AM

They've put this update "on pause" after the uproar over it.

I'm really tired of the "fear of child porn" invading every aspect of everything. If it's not that, it's "sex trafficking".

The only benefit of iPhones was that they're hard to crack and they resist attempts to turn over encryption keys or ways onto the phone, to police officers. That goodwill seems to have been shot to hell now.

by Anonymousreply 89September 11, 2021 1:21 AM

Le news

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by Anonymousreply 90September 11, 2021 1:22 AM

r12 Sinister prospect.

by Anonymousreply 91September 11, 2021 2:19 AM

I was waiting for the iPhone 13 to come out next week. I need to upgrade since I’m still on an iPhone 6. Now this is giving me pause. I don’t have anything illegal on my phone but I wouldn’t want people to scan my dick pics or sex videos. Those are private and I wouldn’t want Apple employees to watch them. Even if no human watches them I’m uncomfortable with the idea that they’re being scanned and accessible to them.

Is it time to finally switch to Android after all these years? I know nothing about Android phones. Which one’s the best?

by Anonymousreply 92September 11, 2021 2:43 AM

[quote] How soon until they start scanning your text messages or voicemails for hate speech?

Maybe you'll be able to access Daily Stormer with your Commodore 64? Check with their IP in Russia or some place like that.

by Anonymousreply 93September 11, 2021 3:19 AM

R92, Samsung.

They have flagship phones that cost a thousand dollars and they also have mid range phones much cheaper, all depends on how much you want to spend

by Anonymousreply 94September 11, 2021 3:30 AM

[quote] I bought a Galaxy Fold 3

I bought a Ford Galaxy.

by Anonymousreply 95September 11, 2021 1:35 PM

The thing I don't like about this that 1) it scans them and 2) it flags the "suspicious" ones for some random Apple employee to manually review. So you have no way of knowing which photos (or videos!) of yours are being looked at by someone you didn't authorize.

by Anonymousreply 96September 11, 2021 9:01 PM

Well, if you’re not doing anything illegal then you shouldn’t worry about who’s watching your videos.

by Anonymousreply 97September 12, 2021 4:02 AM

R97, you area stupid cunt. It's not about what you are doing, it's what THEY ARE DOING!!!

by Anonymousreply 98September 12, 2021 4:04 AM

^ *are

typing on mobile

by Anonymousreply 99September 12, 2021 4:04 AM

What do you have to hide, R96?

by Anonymousreply 100September 12, 2021 4:07 AM

Apple have backed off this already.

by Anonymousreply 101September 12, 2021 4:10 AM

Good. And this better include celebrities, politicians and royalty.

by Anonymousreply 102September 12, 2021 4:13 AM

I want to be the Apple employee who gets to go through Zac Efron’s photos and also Chris Evans’s nudes since he already showed he keeps them on his phone.

by Anonymousreply 103September 12, 2021 5:26 AM

[quote] Well, if you’re not doing anything illegal then you shouldn’t worry about who’s watching your videos.

I love this ludicrous argument.

The next time the police stop you for a traffic infraction, let them search your entire car. Offer to bring them to your house so they can search there too. I mean, if you’ve got nothing to hide….

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."

by Anonymousreply 104September 12, 2021 12:37 PM

The "what do you have to hide" cunts can fuck off the nearest cliff. It's called the expectation of privacy.

You don't strip nude and walk into your office everyday; what do you have to hide???

If you don't have a thing to hide, then please post an erotic photo of yourself from your phone, in this thread, right now.

by Anonymousreply 105September 12, 2021 2:06 PM

R101 yes, we know. See r89 and r90.

by Anonymousreply 106September 12, 2021 2:07 PM

your apple phone already takes pics of you every few seconds, I read that somewhere.

by Anonymousreply 107September 12, 2021 2:45 PM

R92 Samsung is the market leader for Android phones and personally I think they manage to provide top quality for their respective market segments (from cheap to expensive). Although I think Xiaomi is gaining fast by selling very capable hardware at cheaper prices than Samsung (however I've heard they also use ads to get those low prices - but Samsung has bloatware too). I just don't know what Xiaomi's service and update policy is like.

In general the problem with Android phones is that you probably won't be able to hang on to your phone for 6-7 years like you apparently did with your iPhone 6. Apple is the best in that regard, Samsung is fairly good for Android standards, but even they only promise three updates for their top phones (which essentially means 3 years). Of course you can still use your phone afterwards, but at some point your old Android version will be too old for some apps and might have safety issues.

In terms of privacy they might not scan your phone's images (at least not officially), but I'd say in general Google is actually way worse of a data leech than Apple. I'm an Android user myself, but I'd say no such thing as privacy with Google.

by Anonymousreply 108September 13, 2021 10:53 PM

It does seem like it may be necessary though. Child porn is truly one of the most evil things on earth and I’m comfortable giving up some of my freedom if it can help fight it.

by Anonymousreply 109September 13, 2021 11:00 PM

I inherited my child porn from my grandparents .

by Anonymousreply 110September 13, 2021 11:04 PM

Samsung's biggest problem is the bloatware. No one wants their knockoffs of Google apps or their "Bixby" AI assistant, but they refuse to put in good ways to turn them off. They also are much more complex than almost any Android phone as far as configuring settings.

And, Samsung had ads in some of the bloatware too, at least until recently.

Xiaomi is a Chinese company and headquartered in Beijing. I would not want Chinese-made smartphones because China is not a benign nation under its current leadership.

by Anonymousreply 111September 13, 2021 11:05 PM

R110 I know you think you're being funny, but that's a great way to 1) contribute to the "gays are pedos" stereotype, and 2) have the intelligence services take a closer look at you. There are, in fact, some things you should not say in an open forum, even if joking.

by Anonymousreply 112September 13, 2021 11:07 PM

^ Karen infestation

by Anonymousreply 113September 14, 2021 1:29 AM

My Galaxy Fold 3 is coming tomorrow.

by Anonymousreply 114September 14, 2021 1:31 AM

R113 sorry to break it to you but the Karen meme is tired and played out. Only idiots and those late to the trend are still using it.

by Anonymousreply 115September 14, 2021 2:26 AM
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