Michael Che under fire after sharing shocking joke about Simone Biles

The black don’t crack joke is good.

Comics simply should not broadly share comedy-insider jokes.

The Holy Writ of Comedy includes a statement that whatever our imagination and craft lead us to is accepted because humor and wit must be free.

It also adds, "....but outside the Guild, know your fucking audience, you idiot."

Nothing at all funny about creepy and vile Dr. Nasser giving massage treatments to young gymasts from the inside of the vaginal canal to "relax muscles and release tension".

I've found him funny so many times in the past, but this is terribly disappointing. It's sort of like when Joan Rivers made that quip about the US Veterans coming back without arms and legs... After some of these, it makes it really difficult to like them any longer.

Comedians can no longer make jokes. Too many people react like R3 now.

He had a good run.

2 problems: 1. He bigged up his jokes before he made them, and they weren't anything special, wasn't offended, didn't laugh. 2. His role on SNL's Weekend Update is sometimes that of a sort of moral judge, so he's a bit of a hypocrite.

*before and after he made them

but he's saying he was hacked... right? i'm confused

She is indeed a pathetic loser so there is some truth in humor here.

[quote]Comedians can no longer make jokes. Too many people react like [R3] now.

Comedians can make jokes.

They just shouldn't make jokes about teen girl rape.

Which, I'm 90% sure, anyone would tell you.

The problem is people like R4 who think avoiding a subject like September 11th is the same as avoiding EVERYTHING.

I’ve never like his ugly ass and with him being SNL’s head writer, I truly believe he’s the main reason the show hasn’t been good lately. Fire Che and I bet the show will get better. Colin could do Weekend Update either by himself or with an SNK player who doesn’t tend to laugh at most of their own jokes.

I must be getting soft but I found the first joke offensive, or at least not that funny. The second one was good, though.

Cheers R10.

R4 Some things are NEVER funny, and any of these sophomoric attempts to make jokes is hurtful as well as disrespectful to the victims, their families, and other victims of sex abuse far beyond Nassar's reach.

The joke Joan made about the planes being able to hold more Iraqi vets and use less fuel because.... was just utterly revolting and disrespectful to all amputees and military vets. Some things are inviolate. Victims of such tragedies are not fair game to be made sport of.

^such GRUESOME tragedies

I hate that we've lost our sense of humor.

He would get many WWs here on DL. We appreciate dark comedy from dark comedians about dark people.

[quote] [R4] Some things are NEVER funny

🙄🙄🙄 Whatever, frau.

Can I do a “pee pee in your coke” joke?

Yes they are funny. But they are also tasteless and cruel.

That's what humor often is - tasteless and cruel. To someone.

Spare me the nanny posters.

In England a guy was on trial essentially for tasteless jokes (no matter what they formally name it) because he built a model of Grenfell Towers and then burned it and filmed it.

He was acquitted at trial. The government appealed the acquittal (I cannot believe that is allowed!) and the Court of Appeals reversed the acquittal.

I am still unsure which is worse - that there is a criminal offense for tasteless jokes or that the prosecution can appeal an acquittal.

The Nassar joke is not even a joke

[quote] Some things are NEVER funny

To you, maybe. Let other people decide for themselves.

R15 I hope by your words you mean it's sad this passes as humour for some, rather than suggesting those (like me) who find it extremely distasteful and sick are killing comedy, or comedians. I haven't lost my sense of humour, as mine isn't reliant on victimising victims.

Well, either way, you certainly can't use Che's joke as an example to lament, as there's nothing funny about it. This isn't a PC or a a typical tale of some slightly tasteless jokes being panned by prudes, it's simply no way to treat a young women, no way to treat one's fellow countrymen as an athlete competing, no way to treat victims.

Some may argue a joke such as this has a timeframe, wherein ten or twenty years it could be found less offensive, or tolerable as a truly tasteless subject. I still think it sucks for the future, yet Biles may be more detached, and will have had some time to heal.

Biles is still experiencing panic attacks and is brave enough to be open about her struggle with mental health. Only a perverted bully finds her fair game. This is also a different situaton to telling a joke to a friend, this is out there for Biles to read, and possibly feel more needless shame over.

R17 Not a frau here, but I am compassionate enough to imagine how she might feel. I also can wuite easily imagine how I'd feel if she were my sister or my niece.

I suppose I am a free speech absolutist of sorts because to me

[quote]Some things are NEVER funny,

implies someone has to determine what those "things" are. And that's were it gets tricky.

[Quote]Some things are NEVER funny

What, did just stumble on DL yesterday?

R23 It's my bloody opinion on an anonymous message board; get over it!

where, not were at r23

[quote] [R15] I hope by your words you mean it's sad this passes as humour for some, rather than suggesting those (like me) who find it extremely distasteful and sick are killing comedy, or comedians. I haven't lost my sense of humour, as mine isn't reliant on victimising victims.

Of course he means the latter and not the former. Do you have reading comprehension problems? God, sanctimonious and dumb and fuck.

I haven't declared myself judge, jury, and executioner here... Just think it's about as low as a man can go really. I didn't even opine on whether he should apologise... I also didn't call for his ousting @ SNL, so give yourselves each a MARY! for your responses.

R27 You should give yourself a clout about the head, AND a MARY! I was leaving room to be polite, as it's quite possible that others here have read his ideas for thirty minutes of Simone Biles jokes, and asked themselves, "What...?"

The tolerable tasteless jokes at least make some people laugh, or are witty... Any of you really bent over shuddering with glee and struggling to take a breath? Sounds like a certain type here has found his ultimate topic to ironically become an SJW to defend: the indefensible which spews from these brilliant comedians' mouths. "Just an utter wellspring of good humour and glee that Michael Che happens to be"... "Ah yes, his talent is a great gift to the world some say"

SPARE ME

Bottom line: We need to cancel Joan Rivers and Pete Davidson.

[quote] You should give yourself a clout about the head

Speak English.

[quote] Sounds like a certain type here has found his ultimate topic to ironically become an SJW to defend: the indefensible which spews from these brilliant comedians' mouths. "Just an utter wellspring of good humour and glee that Michael Che happens to be"... "Ah yes, his talent is a great gift to the world some say"

Again, speak English. What is this gibberish?

He's brilliant, and filling a role society needs now as much as it ever has. By saying "fuck off" to people trying to silence and control what were ALL allowed to talk about, he's taking on the intellectual and social mantle of George Carlin, et Al. We should all thank Michael Che.

[quote] I’ve never like his ugly ass and with him being SNL’s head writer, I truly believe he’s the main reason the show hasn’t been good lately. Fire Che and I bet the show will get better. Colin could do Weekend Update either by himself or with an SNK player who doesn’t tend to laugh at most of their own jokes.

SNL has sucked for decades. Lorne Is the one who needs to be replaced.

R31 Could you kindly just fuck off about now? Now, let's get one thing straight as an arrow: I speak the English, and you speak the American. You're an ugly troll as well with a lousy sense of humour if criticism of Michael Che gets your arse so inflamed.

He seems fat.

The part where he pretended to be hacked was the only funny thing.

Does he love you long time?

Because Che is so good at handling negative comments himself

[quote] I’ve never like his ugly ass

He done got pimples on it.

R38's link tells us that Michael Che hates “bearded white guys with glasses”

Bigot.

lol he wiped his instagram cuz of all the backlash

can't take the heat despite going after people with awful jokes

I hate when comedians say they "comedic license" to make jokes about anything. Some subjects are not funny

He is not very smart, isn't he? He could simply issue an apology for that awful Larry joke and move on quickly, it's not his joke but it's poor taste to reply that, people would forget in a week. By claiming hack now, he amplified a non story on IG to national headlines, and he has become a joke himself and he will be forever stuck with "I am hacked" which no one will believe, even worse a mini public outrage for condoning a molester joke is on the horizon, he might have to issue a formal apology.

Besides the fact that he wasn't hacked.

As someone else said, how bad do his normal jokes have to be that no one believes he was hacked?

Was Michael Che "hacked," like Joy Reid was "hacked?"

Why did he rally and instigate others to gang up on Biles? He’s a scumbag. Boycott SNL.

Cancelled.

What a pussy.

She is just lucky MAD TV is not still on the air. They would’ve been merciless.

[quote]After Che jokingly claimed to have been "hacked,"

I have been there. It happens.

R23 I stand with you on this.

R32 Also stand with you on this.

I hope that all the people bemoaning how comedians can't make jokes also defended Kevin sHart's homophobic jokes.

Che is one of the least funny people on SNL and this just underscores that. Jokes require good timing, wit, shouldn't punch down, and have to actually be funny -- the latter being the most important if you're going to make an offensive joke. Biles is a sexual abuse survivor who dropped out of a MAJOR global competition due to mental/physical health issues. What in the world would make Che think it would be a good idea to bring up her abuse and liken her stepping back to her sexual abuser losing his career and social standing? This guy is a jackass.

[quote] shouldn't punch down

R51 Biles is an Olympian, Che is a nobody.

R49 Are you not essentially doing the exact same, objecting to one's personal opinion that he finds some topics unfunny? I don't see the difference. Perhaps you can elaborate and help me to understand.

There's no automatic serious consequence for someone simply stating that opinion honestly. Freedom of speech doesn't come without consequences like some people objecting It's so very interesting what a paradox this has become.

You stand with the poster who claims a statement such as that (mine) implies... No such thing was said to that end mate. You're just championing something you believe you have a right to do, which is fine, but both of you shouldn't put words in my mouth either. Smells and tastes a bit trollish, come to think of it, doesn't it?

I never said he ought to be censored, or anything. I just personally don't find anything even remotely funny about a sixteen through eighteen year old girl (in Biles case) being repeatedly molested by Team USA's doctor. I get to say that whether you think I'm the stodgy cunt or not.

There's nothing altruistic in saying you're protecting freedom of speech by trying to squelch my opinion, because such an opinion by itself, leads to or promotes censorship. What utter tosh. People who make bold statements such as "implies someone has to make such decisions" without any proof or evidence of that are guilty of making an intellectual cop-out really.. I said many things, yet I implied nothing of the sort.

I believe I've made myself clear.

Of course Mr. Che has the freedom to make any joke he likes.

He also must try to survive the consequences of his actions. He must have or should have known.

And hacked? Man up or at least be original. What an idiot.

Weren’t they kids when that doctor diddled them?? I am just going to say dude should have known better than to post this shit. I mean, has he seen the society we are currently living in?

[quote] the society we are currently living in?

We are living in the McCarthy Witch Hunt Society.

For the posters here who (for whatever reason) are unable to empathise with, or relate to a young female victim, Dr. Nassar molested teen boys as well. Jacob Moore was twenty-one years-old when he decided to be the first male victim to come forward publicly. There have been several others since who remain hidden to the public. Maybe just for a moment, try to imagine yourself there as a young boy on Dr. Nassar's exam table.

The jokes would be funnier if Che had written them to be delivered by Colin Jost.

[quote]Maybe just for a moment, try to imagine yourself there as a young boy on Dr. Nassar's exam table.

R57 honest question: why? Why should I have to imagine that? Am I supposed to think that this justified her doing whatever she wants without criticism? You're trying to be emotionally manipulative and that's wrong.

Emotionally manipulative isn't as bad as digitally manipulative (i.e. fingers in anus)

Nassar molested over 500 girls?

It's so shocking that none of them told their parents.

Michael Che said that he doesn't judge men for being homophobic because "he doesn't know what they've been through"

R59 I find quite often those who find humour in such things have some sort of problem identifying with the victim. Perhaps those who are such ardent defenders here may feel differently if they could relate better to their own sex. Nassar was more repulsive than the more common abusers who frot or just touch. He put accupunture needles in he boys' penises and testicles.(like Jacob Moore). He told some they worked better if they were erect as well. He shoved his entire hand into girls' vaginas. There are some rather sick pigs on this thread who cannot appreciate any of this.

So sick of these fucking humorless Karens. They need to get fucked even worse than I do.

[quote]After Che jokingly claimed to have been "hacked"...

Oh, for Christ's sake! This foolishness!

Has anyone's Twitter account really ever been "hacked" and had the hacker post over a period of hours? Joy Reid also tried this desperate lie, didn't she? I guess all the black people get hacked because RACISM! Che is a major ASSHOLE!

Wow. I used to like him. I cannot abide this.

R64 Right, this is just the funniest material you've ever heard, right? It's all brilliantly hilarious. Who the fuck cares how the victims feel. Let's give them all something to be ashamed of by making light of it all on SNL.

He is fucking old school lmfao funny but his jokes go over better on video when you can see his aw shucks expression.

Black men tearing down Black women is nothing new.

A comedian in Canada was sued for a routine about a disabled boy.

R59 No one here said Biles could never be criticised for the rest of her life, that isn't what this is about. It's about victim shaming with malice as regards material for his Nationally aired, and Internationally watched television programme. He said he "wants to make fun of her"... and goes straight to the sex abuse.

As an American, if you feel she has let you down, and you're seriously disappointed in her quitting, talk about that. Again, no one poster said anything like that.

The amount of people screeching " no sense of humour" remind me of the Trump bootlickers who defended Trump when he mocked the reporter who suffers from Parkinson's Disease. Yeah, really funny. I feel embarassed for many of you.

[quote]A comedian in Canada was sued for a routine about a disabled boy.

As he should be. How pathetic does a grown man have to be to bully a boy who was 14 at the time?

These straight men are sick and poor excuses for men.

He JOKED about being hacked, because that’s the go-to for people who regret what they have posted. He was NOT hacked and he acknowledges that.

Straight male “comedians” continue to be trash. What’s new?

R72 “suffers from Parkinson's Disease.”

“Suffer” implies weakness and victimhood. One “experiences Parkinson’s Disease.”

Yes, R73. He nearly drove that poor kid to suicide.

He wiped his account after backlash?

Sounds like he cracked and he's a quitter, huh?

[quote] “Suffer” implies weakness and victimhood. One “experiences Parkinson’s Disease.”

R72, R76 You not allowed to use that word anymore.

You're supposed to say the 'S-Word' now.

You Tweeted me mean;

Oh, you Tweeted me cruel!

Che, Che, Che

Che’s a fool

R63 I'm r59 and I'm thinking about what you said. The "male framing" isn't necessary (CSA is gross regardless of the victim), so what we have is an adult victim of CSA and the question is how permissive do we as a society feel of that fact being publically joked about. Put that way, I think I do agree with you that the joke is not only in bad taste (which I thought before; I just was uncomfortable with Che being piled on), but that maybe it should be condemned.

I think I was confusing the CSA joke with the quitter joke. I 100% think that the quitting can be and should be able to be (but not necessarily should be) joked about, but your have convinced me on the Nassar joke that it was inappropriate. I just hate agreeing with the wokescolds because they are masters of leveraging a small, reasonable ask into a huge, bizarre demand.

Seems like blacks often jump to the “hacked” excuse when they get caught saying stupid shit.

r82 is a self-hating RACIST BITCH! I’ve known quite a few white folks who has used the hack excuse. RACIST SHIT!

Miss r67 would like to speak with the manager of SNL

He has the most punchable of faces.

I hope he is feverishly scrubbing his legs with soap and water right now!

Chris Harrison got fired for way less than this. Will SNL do the same?

R81 Glad to see you've come round. I don't particularly fancy myself a "woke-scold" but see that end of it. I'm not even saying someone shouldn't make a personal joke privately (delivered to another, or even anonymously here, without naming names) or generally about pedophiles, hebophikes, or ephebophiles really.

It's very much the public victim shaming via social media; declaring he aims to make fun of her that way, and asks others to pile on for his SNL material. In addition, I do feel it's very poor sportsmanship to publicly denigrate her whilst she's still over there, possibly competing in other future events. This is especially poignant as they're both Americans.

I feel for her that she's shared part of her problems are from dealing with the PTSD. She seems like a humble and lovable young lady to boot.

Sharon Osborne got fired for being friends with Piers Morgan who talked shit about Meghan Markle. Che needs to get fired too.

It’s hella funny.

I usually find him funny on weekend update but I have to say this was just gross and pathetic.