Lady Louise Mountbatten-Windsor to become HRH Princess Louise

Rachel Markle is a cunt and has funky feet!

Lady Louise has been a massive favorite between Phil (miss him) and HM for ages. She has "it".

Sophie after her MASSIVE (and it was) "misstep" really came back swinging for the RF, that said, an HRH for her child won't necessarily grant her any dough, which is what they need. Louise's brother is, to put it kindly, a mess. Her whole family will need what it takes to keep up that ugly pile they call "hovel"...I mean home. That is a lot to put on the shoulders of a young girl. If any one can shoulder it though, it is Louise. Stern stuff, that girl.

[quote] Louise's brother is, to put it kindly, a mess.

How so?

R3 He is an autistic mess (at best) and it just gets worse. I wish Sophie would come out to speak about it and that could be her "thing". Poor fucking lad....

[quote] Megs in California must be spinning like a top at the idea of that little nothing from Bagshot Park becoming a Royal Highness while her own vastly superior progeny remain without.

Why would she care? She’s literally Queen of England now. She is mentioned with frenzied hatred in every single post about TRF on here. Note the actual queen was not mentioned in OP’s post but Meghan was. She towers over all the others.

Louise, princess...accept the HRH!

Oh god, why even bring MM up at this point: It is SO tedious. There is no "there, there" and that is is for the best. Let her husband do the moaning. He is quite good at it.

[quote] [R3] He is an autistic mess

Wow. I didn't know that. When Edward is made a duke, I hope the dukedom specifies something like it passes to the eldest child regardless of gender. That way Louise can become a Duchess eventually and pass the title to her own children.

Nothing was ever done to change birthrights of Prince Edward's children. They are all grandchildren of sovereign and thus royal princes and princesses of the realm.

Only thing that did happen was HM and Earl and Countess of Wessex issuing statements saying any Wessex children would be styled/known as those of an earl. Countess of Wessex issued a follow-up statement later saying basically her children could chose at their 18th birthday what they wished.

Same thing applies to Prince Harry's children. They are both as of now nothing as great-grandchildren of sovereign, so aren't covered by 1917 letters patent. Moment Prince Charles becomes king, that changes as they would be grandchildren of a monarch, and thus royal prince and princess.

R8

Outside of some very special circumstances peerages are always remainder to male heirs only via primogeniture. Females cannot inherit a peerage otherwise, and thus if family runs out of male heirs the peerage becomes extinct/merges back to crown. In a few instances in history upon petition to Parliament a peerage was given to a daughter (so presumably her children of which one is a male) would inherit and keep the peerage from going extinct.

There are some ancient baronies that are remainder to females in absence of male heirs. In "Brideshead Revisted" Lord Marchmain speaks of how the "new honors" will die first (he's presuming neither his heir Brideshead nor spare Sebastian have legal issue), but an old barony from where family began will pass to Julia (again making same assumptions) and her children.

I thought Charles is refusing to give Edward the dukedom, even though the Queen said he should get it on her death.

4 yrs ago, Charles would have wanted this changed. Now he has to put up with it. Louise will be able to take over the Queen's appearances (when she dies).

For now she could take over half of her grandmother's appearances and give her old granny a rest. And it will be a long time before george or charlotte will be old enough for appearances.

Ha ha ha. I hope charles is pissed off

Kaiser at Celebitchy is pushing this so that poor Meghan can be very hard done by that her "vastly superior progeny" in Montecito don't have HRHs. It was rumoured a couple of weeks ago in reaction to the DOE rumours but there's no proof that she's going to start using HRH Princess.

What evidence is there that James is autistic?

R10

We went though this at the time.... HM cannot "tell" Prince of Wales to do anything that will relinquish his birthright. As eldest son of Prince Phillip, the dukedom of Edinburgh went to Prince Charles upon death of his father as per letters patent creating the thing.

HM can grant or remove royal titles, this was done with Diana and Sarah. OTHO monarchs cannot strip or otherwise remove peerages. The Queen cannot remove titles of peerage; that can only be done by statute, passed by both the House of Commons and the House of Lords, and receiving royal assent, which means the agreement of the Queen. That is a very nasty business not done in recent memory except for a few German relations of BRF who also held British peerages.

If HM is keen on her youngest being a duke, would be wise to give him something now and be done with things. Find a name Prince Edward can live with, or not as the case may be, and just draw up the papers.

R11

Is there any evidence at all PC gives a toss one way or another that his niece will now be a "royal"?

We're not talking about ages ago where a Princess Louise would be given her own household, properties and a settlement or allowance from Civil List or whatever.

So, this thread's assertion is based on item in ' Celebitchy?

The Universe's primo anti-Windsor, anti-Wessex, anti-Cambridge, pro-Sussex site, which has left up comments blatantly lunatic?

And do provide links to "special" Viscount Severn. Real ones. Not shit out of one of most notoriously and viciously anti-Drug sites in existence, or drugstore tabloids.

It would be nice if HM spun off the Dukedom on the anni of Phil's passing.

And the York sisters' titles works be safe even after Charles becomes King, since any revision of the 1917 Titles Act would start with his own grandchildren not the Queen's grandchildren.

Yes, that's just what Charles needs to start his reign off: a blood war over titles 30 years old, turning his two other brothers and th e.g ir children against him, whilst fighting the Queen Camilla battle on one hand, the incessant attacks of his own son on the other, and the added burden of knowing his reign will be short and everyone wishes his older son were King, instead.

Just what the doctor ordered for the opening of a reign.

Even Charles isn't that stupid.

^^*anti-Windsor, not anti-Drug

I changed that twice and the fucking autocorrect still out it in.

R16 Agreed. Celebitchy is a ridiculous blog & not a reputable source for anything. Even the article it links to is full of “might” and “may”.

I suspect (based on nothing concrete) that Louise won’t elect to be styled a princess. It”s been a millstone for Eugenie and Beatrice because titles like that mean nothing if you’re not a working royal. Hopefully Louise will train for a proper job and manage a relatively quiet life like Princess Margaret’s lovely daughter (whose name escapes me at the moment).

What was Sophie’s massive misstep?

The only thing I know about James is that when I saw this photo years ago, he did seem off to me. I can believe he’s got some issues. Silly thing to say based off one photo, but that’s the feeling I got.

R21 - Yes, it is a silly thing to base on one photo. They said the same thing about the clearly ebullient, irrepressible, and clearly quite normal Prince Louis. Why? His eyebrows met.

There are many photos out there of Viscount Severn. He looks a perfectly normal youngster, and getting more Windosr-ish as he moves through his early teens, and they always have ugly duckling phases. His sister looked very plain and nearly dour through most of her teens, with the wonky eye and frizzy hair and all, and suddenly, at nearly 18, has emerged to look quite lovely.

Except for William, Andrew, and the Queen herself and Pss. Margaret, the Windsors really do seem to produce geeky looking teens.

Ffs, Charles looked "special" at 15.

[quote] What was Sophie’s massive misstep?

Will be interesting to see what if any future changes to hereditary peerage system arrive.

Absent special remainders in original letters patent daughters cannot inherit. Petitions to Parliament aren't always successful and simply rarely if ever granted outside of extraordinary circumstances.

By-blows cannot inherit, nor children born via surrogacy or adopted. If a gay peer in same sex marriage (which is now legal in GB) wants an heir he's going to have to do things the old fashioned way. Marry a woman and breed children. Then either live an English Marriage sort of existence, or divorce the current peeress to take up with a man. While there may be some lesbian baronesses or others with rank, same thing applies, same sex couples cannot breed of each other and thus invalidates "legal heirs of a peer's body"...

Clearly non of this is inclusive nor equal, but thus far despite a great amount of noise on the matter, nothing has changed. When SSM was legalized in GB the monarchy carved a few outs to protect certain titles (princess of Wales will always be the wife of prince of Wales, and queen consort spouse of a male monarch).

Why are so many Americans obsessed with the UK monarchy? People who live here are not.

Is Daddy still cruising the docks?

Princess Louise has a nice ring to it, one of Queen Victoria's children had the same nice. I think Louise should use her full title just to piss off uncle Chuck and her toxic cousin.

R25

Americans have been interested if not emulated British royalty or aristocracy for hundreds of years. This however wasn't then nor now totally universal. Plenty of Americans don't give a rat's behind about BRF, nobility or whatever.

When they aren't worshipping BRF Americans are busy creating American aristocracy such as the Kennedy family, go figure...

R27

Name "Louise" along with "Louis" are ones that pop up frequently for royals and nobility.

Another Princess Louise....

Let me get this straight, some of you claim that the normal looking boy is special as hell, but the special looking girl is normal and should be granted her brother's titles? Get out of here.

Let's just leave that defected branch of the Windsor gene pool alone. Clearly, there are issues. Are Sophia and Edward close relations or did she just wait too darn long to pop out his turkey baster babies?

Lady Louise seems alright to me. Prince Phillip bequeathed one of his carriages to her, I think a horse as well but I could be wrong. She was born quite premature and her mother almost died while giving birth to her. She might actually have what it takes but I am curious if she'll go to University or not. Her mother earned a trade basically by going to secretarial school and Edward actually went to University so maybe she'll do something.

Prince Charles has to keep in mind that he's kinda screwed when his mother passes. Andrew is done for and Harry and his family are in California. Why not hook up Edward and his wife and perhaps have Lady Louise become a Princess if she wants to? He's going to have to think of something. Ann is one of my favs, she'll tell her brother her damn self when she wants some of her duties lessened or what have you.

R32 Edward and his wife ARE hooked up. They have been senior working royals for 20 years. And Louise was born a Princess. Her father opted to wait for his father's ducal title, so the children went by the titles appropriate for the children of an Earl rather than a Royal Duke. But technically, as the Sovereign's granddaughter in the male line, she was born with the right to that HRH.

If she wants to use it come November, Charles can't stop her. And if he has any brains, he won't try to deprive his brother, after 20+ years of service to the monarchy by the time the Queen dies, of the ducal title Philip always intended Edward to have.

Charles needs to pick his battles wisely, ad at the rate his mental younger son is going, he's going to have plenty more important ones than picking on Edward and his quite lovely, quiet, daughter.

Muck out your own fucking stable first, Charles.

Meghan posting bitterly as R31

R31 Is clearly a foreign bot. Who said anything about the (perfectly normal) Louise taking her (also perfectly normal) brother's title?! If she gets to be an HRH at 18, so does her brother when he turns 18. At the moment, he's only 15. Where the fuck did this alien from another planet get her information?!

Darling: they're both entitled to HRHs when they turn 18. She doesn't take anything away from him. Edward was born an HRH. And her name is "Sophie" not "Sophia".

Lady Louise was born with esotropia, an eye problem, which was finally fixed in 2013. Louise attended St George's School, Windsor Castle before moving to St Mary's School Ascot in 2017. She has chosen English, History, Politics and Drama as her A-level subjects.

Yeah, she's "special" and she's taking away her brother's title.

Go back to Mars, you idiot.

R31 Must be the same bot who accused Kate of "merching" that pearl diamond necklace the Queen leant Kate for Philip's funeral - it's exactly the same tone. Right, dear: the pearls were a gift from the people of Japan to the Queen in the 1970s, the Queen had them strung, and then added the crescent-shaped diamond clasp. Diana and the Queen have worn it, and then it got leant to Kate that day, but Kate was MERCHING it!

They have replicas at Butler & Wilson! in the windows! (I tell you, this has to be the same bot.)

That Sophie interview - she comes off as quite intelligent. Where's the scandal? She certainly had Blair's number.

Never not at it what a sneaky shady bitch