Vanity Fair 2003 “Raining Teens” Issue

Look how fat Hillary Duff is.

She was not fat r1. She was perfect size.

R1 = Lindsay Lohan

The Olsens used to be pretty

Amanda Bynes does not look happy being stuck so far from the center.

Alexis Bledel, Hilary Duff, and Mandy Moore in the center.

Love them both

There were other young stars featured inside, including guys like Shia LeBeouf.

Christina Milian has always been pretty. She deserves a better career.

Bow Wow and Aaron Carter

The Harry Potter fugs

Damn, Lindsay had such charisma. What a waste.

Lindsay was really stunning then. Like she had a natural beauty and glow to her. The rest were generically pretty with good makeup and stylists.

The most beautiful girl from Long Island. Sadly she couldn't escape her background.

Tiny, wispy, troubled nothings.

All of them are totally forgotten

It's chilling when Lohan is the prettiest of the bunch.

Also that cover was too WHITE!

At least they had Raven r17

I wonder how much coke was hoovered up off camera?

R19 probably not much. A handful of them were still minors.

Lindsay was still normal at this point and didn’t have Mean Girls yet.

I hate how Raven was pushed to background in this shoot. That's So Raven was much bigger than the Olsen twins and Mandy Moore at the time. Hilary in the center makes sense because Lizzie McGuire was a huge franchise and she just got off the success of the movie. Gilmore Girls was a big show (for the time) but Alexis wasn't a teenager. She does look super-young for her age though.

Hilary and Lindsay were both considered "thick" for the time and Raven was called "fat". Funny how times change.

R21 none of them were more successful than the Olsens, then or now.

[quote]probably not much. A handful of them were still minors.

I can't even......

Are we just busloading people in from I Village these days? Or is there some spinster group that's getting free subscriptions?

The Olsens interviewed by Oprah, 2004.

They were powerhouses, and I think people forget that.

PS that Olsen interview caused an uproar on TikTok recently

R21 Are you kidding? They were extremely popular in the 2000s, in addition to being massively rich. Then and now, they're probably worth more than the rest of those girls combined.

The Olsen Twins 48 Hours interview

They were 16 here and already richer than all those girls combined in 2021.

I doubt they're worth as much as people claim. Like that lying twat, Kylie Jenner

R22 they were thick though. What’s sad is to think how much drug addition (for the women) stems from a few comments too many of being told to “drop a few pounds.”

Not sure of the root cause for the men.

R29 They own a lot of real estate in places like NYC and Paris. Only the very rich can do that.

R29 this isn’t a reality star. These are two girls who worked since 9 months old and became household names all over the world by 3. By the final season of Full House they were making $150k an episode each, at 8 years old. They released a shit ton of merchandise as kids and teens, from clothes to video games to CDs. In 2001 their products brought in over $970 million, and they surpassed $1 billion the following year…

They now own TONS of property in NYC, Paris, Spain, LA, Miami etc.

They’re rich. This isn’t some reality star claiming they made $1 billion off of makeup.

I doubt they were ever worth a billion. Who buys their shit?

Anyways… numbers don’t lie. They own tons of real estate. The place Heath Ledger died was owned by Mary-Kate and he was renting there.

Ellen was the only talk show they would agree to do every few years but even that one they haven’t done since 2014.

I wanna know what happened to them.

R21 The Olsen twins mostly targeted elementary and middle school aged girls. Their careers were built on merchandise and direct-to-video releases. Once their big budget Hollywood film New York Minute flopped, their careers were over. Yes, they built a fashion empire and became tabloid fodder but they weren't icons to teenagers at the same extent that Hilary, Lindsay and Raven were. Also, Mandy got more famous from doing movies like "A Walk To Remember", "Saved" and "Tangled" but she wasn't nearly as big an idol as Britney, Christina and even Jessica and Ashlee who were famous for... other reasons.

^ Sorry meant for R23

R35 but they were the most powerful teens in Hollywood. The issue isn’t about the age group these girls are aimed toward, it’s Hollywood’s most powerful teens, and they were at the top then.

Their career didn’t end with NYMinute, they chose not to make another movie because they feared they would lose a lot of money. They financed their own film. The film “flopped” in that it didn’t make a profit. They didn’t lose much of anything either. They made back what they spent pretty much.

Ashley decided to quit acting and stick with Fashion, and Mary-Kate did a few acting projects before deciding to focus on Fashion also.

They wouldn’t even come back to Fuller House for just a cameo.

Dualstar was owned by Mary-Kate & Ashley Olsen. They are very rich women that seem damaged and want nothing to do with Hollywood. They focus on their clothing line and perfumes and that’s it.

Their clothes are for the rich. They don’t relate to normal people.

The Olsen girls had their careers in their own hands. They were not like these other girls. They were/are smart and business savvy, and yes, rich.

I don't recognize the third teen from the right.

Evan Rachel Wood

It's kind of amazing looking at these photos and remembering how fame is certainly fleeting.

Either they didn't get enough brakes (Mandy, Hillary), had personal issues of their own creation (Lindsay), personal issues not of their own creation (Amanda), never rose above TV star (Raven, Alexis), left the business completely (the Olsen twins). Heck, if you look at the other photos from the issue, I'm sure many people wouldn't even be able to remember what some of their names are. Lacey Chabert, Gregory Smith, Christina Millian? I haven't seen any of them in years. Aaron Carter and Bow Wow only appear in the news when they did something controversial.

Shia had a pretty good run until he started acting nutso.

The Harry Potter kids are still known even if they don't seem to work all that much in things people see.

It reminds me of the "who will be the most famous from the cast of Stranger Things" thread. I said that people usually have no clue who will be around a decade from now and it's never quite who you think it is. I really do believe that.

Solange Knowles is in the same issue. She drops an artsy album that gets critical acclaim every few years. She went on to win a Grammy Award.

Keep turning the pages and you'll run into these three: Milo Ventimiglia, Jared Padalecki and Kaley Cuoco. They're probably the people that have worked the most and Kaley and Jared are rolling in it.

(I'm not talking about money with any of these people. We know the Olsens have the most money and they're likely followed by Kaley.)

None of those people made the cover.

Breaks! not Brakes! Thinking about my sister's car.

Lindsay always looked like she was 47 years old.

R42 Mandy had a major comeback with This Is Us, alongside Milo inside that same issue.

R42 same with Evan Rachel Wood, with Westworld

Yes, a few of them have had some success again over the past few years. Evan Rachel Wood with Westworld, Mandy Moore with This Is Us, Alexis Bledel with Handmaids Tale (which won her an Emmy), Hilary Duff has been on Younger for a few years etc.

The only sad cases are Lindsay and Amanda. The Olsens left to do their passion.

[quote]Mandy had a major comeback with This Is Us, alongside Milo inside that same issue.

More like Milo went from Gilmore Girls to Heroes, did a few movies and then This is Us. He never had to make a comeback. He's worked pretty much every year. I loved Mandy growing up.

[quote]same with Evan Rachel Wood, with Westworld

She had a gap between True Blood (which she popped up on occasion) and Westworld where she wasn't doing anything remotely remarkable. As for Westworld, it gets a lot of attention, but it has only aired 3 seasons in 6 years. Why, I don't know? That's what I meant by not enough breaks.

She and Mandy should have been bigger stars than they are.

The second question on Google when you search for Hilary is asking what happened to her. Yes, she's on Younger but it's on TV Land. And yes, Alexis was great (I no longer watch it) in Handmaids Tale which is also not her show unlike Gilmore Girls which was her show.

My point was, the people who worked the most consistently, became the biggest stars, and made the most money weren't the ones who were featured with the exception of the Olsens who don't act anymore. None of them became a Meryl Streep, Emma Stone, Ryan Gosling, or even a Jennifer Lawrence but at least some of them had long-running series and in Kaley's case made a lot of money on an extremely popular show before producing her own.

Most amazingly, from what I can tell from those mentioned, all of them are still living.

All of them lived pretty clean lives too and are consistently working. Except for Lindsay and The Olsens who are drug addicts. The Olsens at least have "fuck you" money from their almost 20 years of nonstop child labor and they built a fashion empire that caters to a wealthy minority. They can blow off money off on coke and still have stuff left over. Amanda has a mental illness sadly, she is lucky her parents intervened before it was too late and she retired early bu with all the money she made.

Raven would be such a bigger star if she came up around now, a la Lizzo, Nicole Byer and other fat black women. Her and Amanda Bynes had amazing comedic timing in their prime, better than many other adults at that time. It's a terrible shame they didn't star in a big movie or sitcom together. Idk, something changed with Raven post-view, post-come out, and post-30

[quote]Evan Rachel Wood

pre-Manson

Raven was a big star in the 90s and 2000s . She was pretty on par with the Olsens and Macaulay Culkin in the early 90s with the overexposure. She was on Disney as a teen and was pretty popular in the mid-2000s, I think things that happened behind the scenes messed her up. Given the problems that her costars Orlando and Kyle had. I don't think Raven wasn't affected but she was in the industry since she was a baby that she was already hardened. I imagine like most child stars who have been acting since toddlers often because of stage parents, Raven grew resentful and bitter of how she didn't have a normal childhood. That's why she acted so juvenile and immature into her late 20s and early 30s. Anyway, she seems more at peace now since she got married, her wife is pretty and seems to adore her.

That picture makes it look like Mandy Moore has a super long right arm... ala Dhalsim.

R54 Do you mean Alexis Bledel instead of Mandy, you don’t see much of her arms? Unless you’re reading one of the twin’s arms as an extension of hers?

Did they always do these spreads as composite shots and edit them together? Is the break between Duff and Bledel and it’s two groups?

Why are we speaking as if Raven wasn’t on The View for years? That’s So Raven was a hit. The Cheetah Girls was a hit. And now Ravens Home is a hit, and received an Emmy nomination for child programming, where she was nominated too. You all are acting like she is sitting home not working for the last decade. Not the case.

[Quote] Keep turning the pages and you'll run into these three: Milo Ventimiglia, Jared Padalecki and Kaley Cuoco. They're probably the people that have worked the most and Kaley and Jared are rolling in it.

Well in Jared's case i would put it down to luck. Who could have predicted Supernatural getting such a rabid fanbase. They have done very well thanks to the convention circuit. And Kaley works best as a sitcom actress. But i'm glad The Flight Attendant was a success.

[Quote] All of them lived pretty clean lives too and are consistently working.

Hilary was a coke addict with an eating disorder. And her relationship with Joel Madden would not fly today.

[Quote] I think things that happened behind the scenes messed her up. Given the problems that her costars Orlando and Kyle had.

I think there was drama with the Cheetah Girls as well. Which isn't surprising because both Adrienne and Kiely were assholes to Naturi back in the 3LW days.

Lindsay Lohan was never a beauty.

Hmm, who would have thought Alexis Bledel would have the Emmy out of them all.

This was like the b snd c list teen stars back then right?

[quote]Amanda Bynes does not look happy being stuck so far from the center.

She'd have had no idea where she was going to be, they obviously took individual photos and pasted them together. In fact, it looks like they literally pasted them together, with glue. I don't remember photo editing being that bad but apparently it was.

R61 no.

And r58, Jared was on Gilmore Girls at this time, not Supernatural

R60 Maybe soon two!

R58 I know Jared was on GG at the time. But Supernatural is what's kept him employed for nearly two decades.

Actually the cover is representative of actual population percentages. Blacks are 13%. So 1/9 is fine. Imagine going to china as a white person and bitching that there aren’t enough white people on every show, magazine cover, etc. you’d seem pathetic.

The only one with any old-school style charisma and talent is Lindsay.

They all look like such cunts.

R66 America is not home of white people. Europe is. That comparison is poor.

I thought Alexis Bledel was absolutely awful in Gilmore Girls and Sin City. I'm happy to hear she improved in acting according to this thread.

I actually feel her style worked perfectly in Gilmore Girls.

PS to the poster who said he would be a slut if he were Rory, wasn’t she kind of a slut when she fucked Jared’s character after he was married? Didn’t she do it with her blond boyfriend later too?

Also, I want to know what is Alexis' skin care routine. Like Ralph Macchio, she always looks like a teenager. She even looked 12 in Tuck Everlasting.

R72 wouldn’t that have more to do with genetics than a skin routine?

R72 That’s ironic, they aged the character up considerably because it would have been creepy having the ancient, but teenage looking Jessie Tuck leering after her.

At least Alexis and the actor who played Jesse Tuck were the same age, they just looked younger. It was more creepy seeing 17-year-old Christina Ricci (who looked 10) get paired with 36-year-old Johnny Depp in Sleepy Hollow.

R75 I guess we’ll say nothing about Brooke and Jodie?

Europe isn't all white, it's full of Italians, Slav and Russians and Pollacks!!!

R77 besides them.

The point is that whites are not natives of America. They just think they are.

Nor are blacks R78. And they don't make up that much of the American population. Whites and Hispanics do though.

R79 enough.

Lol R80 as if you get to dictate when a discussion ends? Being native to a population has nothing to do with representation in the US. Blacks are "visitors" to the US just like whites and only make up a certain percentage of the non indigenous population yet people still complain there aren't enough blacks represented.

I don't know why race was brought up in the first place but it doesn't matter.

R81 ENOUGH OF YOUR BULLSHIT RACISM. Nothing wrong with wanting to see more than one black person

Oh I see R82. You're one of those types. Carry on then.

R66, calm your pussy

R79 Hispanic isn't a race. But most Hispanics who come here are a racial blend of white, Indigenous and African. Plenty of Dominicans, Puerto Ricans and Cubans are Black. Most Mexican immigrants who come here are actually mostly Indigenous people.

The US, white people were so repulsed at the idea of mixing races that they passed laws to segregate the races socially and economically, made anyone with mixed heritage a "person of color" and forced them into segregation away from "pure white" people and made interracial sex and marriage a crime. The One-Drop Rule is considered a laughably stupid concept in pretty much every other country. Anyway, if you watch American film from between the 1910s to the 1990s or watch American TV from the 1940s to the 1970s. You would think The US had no Black people at all and that the Black people who were there were all just thugs, maids, athletes, musicians and dancers. I don't get why people on this thread like to play dumb and not realize how fucked up that is. More diversity in the media is a threat to NOBODY.

Alexis not longer looks younger. On the Handmaid's tales she looks nearly 50. Too skinny and wrinkled.

I don't get the nostalgia for this moment in time or these "actresses." Lindsay had the most potential (that she partied and drank away) out of all these middling teeny boopers, but you'd think she was Liz Taylor the way some people hype her up nowadays.

r77 Those are all white.

[Quote] The only one with any old-school style charisma and talent is Lindsay.

I think Amanda Bynes had potential. She had good comedic timing and wasn't afraid to make a fool of herself. It all seemed to go downhill after the breakup with Seth McFarlane. And of course Dan Schneider is played some part.

[Quote] I don't get the nostalgia for this moment in time

People get nostalgic for every other decade. Why not the 00s?

Hispanic very much should be it’s own thing. Hispanic people, even the “white” ones, are very much different than WHITE people, and even look different in most cases and are shaped with more curves etc.

Look at a Angelina Jolie or Jennifer Aniston or Julia Roberts frame and then look at a Selena or Salma Hayek or J Lo.

We can keep pretending they’re exactly the same but they aren’t.

R91 100% agree. We label anyone not black as “white” these days.

The Teen Industrial Complex has a high turnover.

R57 I believe Raven Symone should be a movie star right now. The View and the Disney reboot aren't enough. She should be getting comedic roles every year. This isn't her fault, she probably had a hard time being young during the early 00s when you had to be a white blond coke whore with an eating disorder to be considered beautiful. If she came up now, she wouldn't have been oppressed that way and she could reach her full potential. She would be on the same level as Melissa McCarthy, Kristen Wiig, and Rose Byrne.

Raven was never gonna be a movie star. She’s better made for TV.

The Olsen twins are the spitting image of troll dolls!

Evan Rachel Wood has since said she was traumatized by this covershoot because she is bisexual and wanted to wear pants on the cover and the vanity fair people wouldn't let her. Quelle HORREUR.

R97 that’s trauma?

R97 sounds like EVR would get on very well with Ellen Page.

The way the Oldens used to drape themselves around each other was downright creepy.

Olsens, that is.

Has Tilda Swinton never been on a cover?