Two Of Fran Drescher’s ‘Nanny’ Co-Stars Backing Rival Matthew Modine in the SAG-AFTRA Presidential Race!

Yetta Rosenbloom has not yet endorsed a candidate.

"Listen, my husband likes to have a lot of sex so I don't have much time to study the issues."

"Plus, our condo in Miami collapsed, so gimme a break."

How awkward! Is it normal for SAG members to endorse candidiasis or is this seen as a major slap in the face to Fran? She seems very close to the cast members; they seem to meet up from time to time, and Charles even guest starred on Happily Divorced. What gives? Maybe it really isn’t personal, but if so, why say anything.

Wasn't Fran, or at least her ex-husband, the boss? If so, she wasn't just a co-star, and this is probably a smackdown for poor treatment (on the set, in the paycheck, etc.).

From a mental hospital somewhere in America...

C.C. Babcoks laughs and laughs

In college, a friend thought I looked like him.

Zima has been airing grievances about her experience on The Nanny for years now. Her stance seems more personal. I’m surprised about Shaugnessy. That’s a blow to the legacy of the show which is doing well on HBO MAX. Even if this isn’t personal and just business, I’m sure Fran doesn’t feel that way.

[quote]In college, a friend thought I looked like him.

Fascinating.

I don't believe it's personal. It's normal for supporters to publicly show their support for their candidate. They did it via video, but it would have turned up on the election material too as signatures of support are also included. Modine and Joely Fisher have long been involved with the union and on the boards. I don't recall ever hearing about Drescher being actively involved.

^ Says Fran Drescher's publicist

That’s what happens when you’re the lady in red when everybody else is wearing tan.

I don’t get DL’s love for this hack and her Jewish Uncle Tomming show.

This must be the most embarrassing thing that's ever happened to her...

You know, since that time Danny Imperialli fired her from the bridal shop in Flushing Queens

and broke their engagement too

She landed right on her keister!

Matthew Modine was hot back in the day.

"tea" makes you sound like a moron, OP

[quote]"tea" makes you sound like a moron, OP

Whereas, you just sound like a cunt.

R14 types Old

No one cares about this topic, as evidenced by the OP replying to herself over and over

Maybe they dont like her current gay husband.

What does that even mean, spill the tea?

R19 It's "spill the beans", isn't it?

R20, I Googled it. Apparently it is new. It originated from Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil where a character called Lady Chablis says spill the T. The T in this instance meaning the truth. It evolved into tea and has been around in that form since 2018. It all sounds like rubbish to me, but sensible rubbish. Anyway, caftan talk. As I self loathe the self disrespect part of me, I try to shun caftan talk.

[quote]Zima has been airing grievances about her experience on The Nanny for years now. Her stance seems more personal.

Yeah, she’s made it clear she did not enjoy her time on the set and has talked about how Fran made a lot of money from that show (hinting that she didn’t make as much as she thought she should have).

The others however I am surprised aren’t supporting her. Maybe she isn’t as sweet as we think.

Is Andrea Zuckerman stepping down or is this for another position in the union they are running for?

Yes, Gabrielle isn't seeking reelection. She is backing Fran.

Bring back Half-pint and her big jugs.

I have a feeling Modine will win this time. You know it’s telling when 3 of her own costars won’t vote for her.

[quote]Yes, Gabrielle isn't seeking reelection.

At age 116, it was time

R27 LMAO 😂!

Modine looks gooooood..

[Quote][R14] types Old

R16 The eldergays, on their day, would say "dishing the dirt."

r25, she's got nothing on these babies.

^ Good God!

What are those even made of?

What had Matthew done lately other then that JoBro video?

Maybe if Fran bought a set like those r32, people would like her more.

[quote]What had Matthew done lately other then that JoBro video?

R33, Matthew played the lead in the Netflix show "Operation Varsity Blues" about the college admissions scandal that involved Lori Laughlin and Felicity Huffman.

The show was good - better than I expected - but Modine was almost unrecognizable as Rick Singer with a terrible gray bowl cut that was apparently Singer's trademark hair style

R35 Oh right I did see that, I’m just frustrated with documentary films veering into this mixed use of acted out scenes and actual found materials, I miss when they had much more rigid boundaries, but at least they are getting named actors to do these parts.

If they don't want to support former castmate Fran, then they should not speak publicly on the race. It would be the classy thing.

R31, I may be dead but no one, I repeat NO ONE, will have tittays like I did. My bazongas were national landmarks and a major tourist attraction, mmmkay?

I'm a SAG member and I'm voting for Modine as well. He's been in the trenches fighting for us for a long time.

Fran Drescher & Anthony Rapp are good people but quite frankly it seems as if their candidacy is more about name recognition & wokeness instead of actual union issues.

I love Fran, but I am also voting for Modine. Like many, I have been very concerned about our union for awhile now. I think Modine is the best person for the job.

Well said, R39

I'm not an actor, but based on what I read, actors are really struggling.

A couple of decades ago, actors could make a decent living doing small parts and working as character actors - but that's not true anymore.

Now the stars are influencers who create their own content with their phones.

SAG-AFTRA needs some real vision and leadership now.

But Fran would probably throw a Hella Victory party!

She loves the gays..

From the Deadline comments:

Charles Shaughnessy and Renee Taylor are both former Membership First SAG board members from the Alan Rosenberg years. Madeline Zima also attempted to run for the SAG board with Membership First but was disqualified at the last minute.

So, former Membership First board members and candidates endorse Membership First ticket. Shocking.

What’s more interesting is that Drescher Specifically chose not to run with Membership First, in spite of Shaughnessy and Taylor’s deep connections to that group. That’s more telling.

[quote]Now the stars are influencers who create their own content with their phones.

Like, my mom told me to read up on SAG but I was videoing myself using some new makeup palettes...

and like, you and dad already fucked up my life by forcing me to go to USC

so just go do your jail time and leave me alone!

I looked it up. Zima said working on the Nanny wasn’t a fun experience. Shame on Drescher.

“There were other experiences on other sets where people treated me kindly. I worked when I was 5 years old on The Hand That Rocks The Cradle and everybody was wonderful to work with on that set. People treated me as they should have — because I was a child.”

“There was just a kindness and a sensitivity that didn’t exist on the set of The Nanny. They treated me more like a prop than like a human being. At a certain point I can’t pretend like it was some great experience anymore,” she said.

Wow, tell it Gracie!

Sounds like there are some good stories there.

Zima needs to do a movie about her experiences as a child actor.

I know who I'm voting for!

Apparently there are some big proposed cuts to health insurance and other benefits for SAG-AFTRA union members that Matthew Modine and the other Membership First faction has already been working to defeat...

That sounds like a much more immediate and related need that Drescher's campaign that she said would focus on "diversity and eco awareness.”

Is this Zima person named after that weird womanly alcoholic drink, was it an endorsement baby naming thing?

[quote]Is this Zima person named after that weird womanly alcoholic drink, was it an endorsement baby naming thing?

Val, get off this thread and stop snooping on my computer!

(She's my best friend but she's not the brightest candle on the Hanukkah menorah if you know what I mean.)

This is why I support Modine.

As some comments have demonstrated, it sounds as though Modine is the better person for the job, and his goals are aligned with theirs.

Not everything is a popularity contest.

Having said that, I think they both look great.

So apparently Gabrielle Carteris did run the SAG-AFTRA union into the ground

in addition to being a 116 year-old woman

and she "decided" not to run for re-election after widespread protests

But I wanted to show Danny Imperialli that he made a BIG mistake by firing me from the Bridal Boutique and breaking our engagement and marrying that tramp Heather Biblow...

so vote for me!

OMG. This sounds like one of those crushing scenes...

Hasn't she become some big anti-vaxxer/conspiracy theorist on Twitter?

After reading that Modine actually cares about important issues, and Fran is just into wokeness, I am team Modine!

I'm all for diversity and inclusion, but it doesn't mean shit if your health care coverage and contracts suck. I just hope people understand if Modine wins, he's not going to be able to walk into the role and fix everything overnight.

Charles Shaughnessy still has a big chest and huge muscles.

R59 But how are his clams?

Anthony Rapp is a pompous self righteous bully on social media. It’s not uncommon to unleash his “ fans” on user for tweeting something that upsets him.

Hope he loses but I love Fran though.

I met Matthew Modine once, when he was a hottie back in the day.

[quote]I'm all for diversity and inclusion, but it doesn't mean shit if your health care coverage and contracts suck. I just hope people understand if Modine wins, he's not going to be able to walk into the role and fix everything overnight.

What the SAG-AFTRA membership have a hard time accepting is that unless members are willing to strike, they won't get an improvement over contracts and their health coverage. There are members to this day who say they never recovered from the 2000 strike.

Studio management has always played hardball which is why their have only been meager improvement on rates to the contracts. The Trustees of the Health Fund - made up of SAG-AFTRA leadership, as well as studio labor relations - have to worry about the financial health of the Fund so they're not going to make any concessions and give relief in regards to the increased premiums.

Health care is a human right in all developed countries except for the US. Fuck Biden, Hillary and Obama for only caring about money.

R37 I agree. Tell that to Buddy Ebsen who campaigned against Nancy Kulp who was running for congress in Pennsylvania. Plus, as a British Aristocrat I think Lord Charles, the Baron Shaughnessy should butt out.

R65 Sometimes the classiest thing one can do is simply be silent. That's what I respect most about "Jackie on Assistance." She could have written books and been on any number of talks shows had she wanted to exploit her family and tragedies.

[quote]Madeline Zima also attempted to run for the SAG board with Membership First but was disqualified at the last minute.

Do you know why? I'm just curious, I tried to find the answer online but nothing came up.

Sort of but not really, r56, she was very much about COVID safety early on, but then she got into the 5G conspiracy theory stupidity.

Renee Taylor has been very active in the Screen Actors Guild for fifty years. So she should just stay out of it now because her co star wants to run?

Ridiculous.

I’d also read scuttlebutt that Fran has not been very engaged with SAG AFTRA. People were shocked that she’s running.

[quote] Now the stars are influencers who create their own content with their phones.

It’s likely this will lead to belt tightening in the future. Union leaders should probably focus on limiting the cuts instead of fantasizing about increases.

MR . SHEFFIELD!!!!!!

Some of this stuff is just "business" and simple policy differences and does not affect long term friendships. I love DL, but sometimes I think some of you only surround yourselves with people who always agree with you. I just can't believe that's the case. My closest friend and I are constantly having policy disagreements. He's still my best friend.

Madeline dear , NO ONE needs to kiss your ass , over 2 sentences EVERY OTHER WEEK.

The Val Harper-Melissa Gilbert battle of 2001-2002 was epic. DL melted down over that.

I’m a member. It’s odd that our membership cards expire in 6 months and they send you a new one. Maybe they consider that a way to ensure your dues stay current, but it seems really wasteful. It’s a small concern relative to health and pension policy, I know.

AFTRA's membership cards were paper and printed in-house, but I think for legacy SAG and the new merger that wouldn't fly. It seems too low rent.

Matthew Modine es muy sexy papá.

"Why I Won't Be Voting for Fran Drescher," by Deidre Hall

[quote]"Why I Won't Be Voting for Fran Drescher," by Deidre Hall

Deidre Hall?

What does that old frozen-faced dyke have to say about all this?

I didn't even know she was still alive.

Rapp is a shithead liar.

R81, Kevin Spacey is that you!?

It's referencing the essay Deirdre Hall wrote a long time ago saying she won't wear an HIV awareness ribbon, r80.

After the projected deficit of $83 million in the SAG-AFTRA Healthcare plan,

current union president Gabrielle Carteris announced she would not seek re-election

in order to spend more time with her aging cats.

[quote]Rapp is a shithead liar.

I concur, he spread some awful rumors about my innocent pool parties for teen boys

[quote]Rapp is a shithead liar.

He's more a mischaracterizer than a liar.

[quote]The Val Harper-Melissa Gilbert battle of 2001-2002 was epic. DL melted down over that.

Maybe that's where the union lost its way

If they'd picked an experienced woman like Valerie

instead of a young woman with the hard-melon ball tits who was obsessed with boning Rob Lowe

[quote]Maybe they dont like her current gay husband.

Fran has another gay husband?

Some women have a type...

More likely, they didn't like nutjobs she has been associating herself with and the red pilling she received from them.

R64 has to be a troll or a lobotomy patient. The leaders you cite have been dedicated to expanding health care to the extent that the right allows. Obamacare was a compromise because the coverage we need was not going garner nearly enough votes, you moron.

Agreed, R90, well said.

R90, Oh fuck off you brainwashed centrist. The ACA was primarily about maximizing profits for the health care industry.

Last year, Fran alleged that 5G wireless is responsible for the COVID pandemic.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if Goop and her ilk elected Fran to be in charge of their union benefits.

There were other experiences on other sets where people treated me kindly. I worked when I was 5 years old on The Hand That Rocks The Cradle and everybody was wonderful to work with on that set. People treated me as they should have — because I was a child.”

“There was just a kindness and a sensitivity that didn’t exist on the set of The Nanny. They treated me more like a prop than like a human being. At a certain point I can’t pretend like it was some great experience anymore,” she said.

And yet she still participated in the read through covid reunion recently

bitter little bitch is just jealous she's done nothing of note since 1999 and that Drescher is prettier than her whilst in her 60's!

Nanny Fine is running for president? oooh,, ahhhhh, ahahahahahaha

#Babcock

Didn't you campaign for Abraham Lincoln?

Did Miss Babcock end up in an asylum after walking in on her husband Niles in bed with another man and then telling CeCe that, just like Lilith's ex-husband Bryan on "Frasier", he wanted someone a bit more feminine than CeCe?

You were just too much man for me Babcock

Did Niles ever get his back blown out by Mr. Sheffield? 🤨

It's in CeCe's name. BabCOCK.

Niles probably closed his eyes and thought of his handsome father-in-law every time CeCe demanded sex.

The reboot (heaven forbid): Mr Sheffield runs for President, Nanny Fine is a fish-out-of water as First Lady, Niles comes out, Aunt Frieda steals groceries causing family embarrassment, hijinks ensue.

R102, Mr Sheffield was born in England. How could he run for President? Or was he like Doris Johnson, the British PM who was born in NYC and thus an American by birth?

They should reboot this show focusing on Val, Fran's best friend.

Val Toriello was always the more interesting and relatable character and according to Google she was last working at a Krispy Kreme:

"However, at the end of the series, Val begins dating a pharmacist named Fred and became pregnant with his son. At some point during the series Val loses her job at the bridal shop and in season six Maggie's Wedding she states that she is now working at a Krispy Kreme."

And Rachel Chagall, who played Val, is still gorgeous...

Wow, R105. I agree she looks great.

They could call it The Valley.

Whoever wins needs to make changes over at SAG. There are 60,000 members in SAG and probably over 100,000 in Equity. Joining these unions used to be difficult, you had to work hard, and membership was a significant rite of passage. Nowadays any asshole who unpacks boxes on a Youtube channel can join SAG via the New Media.

She's running with Anthony Rapp? Yikes. I'll give Rapp credit for speaking out against Kevin Spacey, but he has a reputation for being a complete DIVA (and not in a good way).

[quote] Yeah, she’s made it clear she did not enjoy her time on the set and has talked about how Fran made a lot of money from that show

No shit--Fran was the main star of the show, co-creator AND executive producer.

[quote]You know, since that time Danny Imperialli fired her from the bridal shop in Flushing Queens and broke their engagement too. She landed right on her keister!

Actually is was her fanny.

She was "out on her fanny"

Anthony Rapp was a teenage whore. He went a lot further with grown men than Kevin Spacey got with his fugly ginger ass. It’s all in his book.

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I hit puberty in the late '80s and had a massive crush on Matthew Modine.

Happened to be eating in the same restaurant as him in the West Village a few years ago. I almost came in my pants.

He is free to use this as an endorsement in campaign materials.

Well, tell us more R114.

What did he look like in person?

Who was he with, etc. etc. etc.

"Matthew Modine made me jizz in my pants. Vote for Matt Modine."

Mindy Cohn has endorsed Fran and Anthony Rapp:

mindycohn I support these two amazing candidates and the entire UFS ticket….I’m also running for the local board. When it’s time to vote it’s important for every actor to vote! We can’t just sit back anymore.

Natalie lost her virginity to a guy named Snake. Can you really trust her?

[quote]Natalie lost her virginity to a guy named Snake. Can you really trust her?

Wait, I thought she lost her virginity to Jo?

Girl, girls!

Modine has a large cock.

I'll vote for him.

If I can see it...I'll vote for him too

I remember someone on DL claimed that "Membership First" was a Republican wing of SAG, but perhaps he was mistaking non-Status Quo types for being Republican? But I do know that Esai Morales said he was considering voting for Trump in 2016 (he was really angry about something).

[quote]But I do know that Esai Morales said he was considering voting for Trump in 2016

He probably did vote for him. He's a anti-masker and anti-vaxxer.

MembershipFirst are the hardliners. Prior to merger they were the slate that opposed merger because they felt AFTRA purposely undercut SAG contracts. They also think that they have more power than they do in negotiations yet never have a true path forward to get the gains they are seeking, just bloviating on how things should be.

I do not miss the days of Deadline Hollywood Daily when Nikki Finke still owned it. The Membership First crazies like Justine Bateman, Matt Mulhern, Anne-Marie Johnson and crazy ass Frances Fisher made the comments section so rancorous.

Modine is hung like a horse. Has anyone mentioned that yet?

Shaughnessy and Fran are friends. They've appeared together multiple times since The Nanny.

I don't blame Madeline for not having great memories, and she's never called Fran out by name. After the first few years, the kids WERE props. They barely had any lines or plot relevance (I rewatched during lockdown). She said on this podcast (which I very much recommend for anyone interested in child actors) that she was up for Lohan's role in the Parent Trap but it would've required her to miss a handful of days on the Nanny set. The show wouldn't let her go. I'd be pissed too. They would've been fine without her

Thanks for sharing that link r125. Sadly though, like many podcasts I've heard, the hosts talk over the guests way too much. If you want to do most of the talking on your podcast, don't invite guests on.

I felt she did hint at least twice about sitcom starts acting horribly towards others on the set. I could see Fran being that type. She even refers to that Michelle from Glee, but claimed to not remember her name. Honestly, the not remembering her name seemed a bit Mariahish to me.

[quote]After the first few years, the kids WERE props. They barely had any lines or plot relevance (I rewatched during lockdown).

The first two seasons are the best. It's a quirky family comedy with an eccentric female lead. There was also something low budget about it that made it enduring.

Seasons 3-4 aren't bad, but you can tell it was a hit by then The guest stars start becoming bigger names and Fran goes from wearing cutesy trashy outfits to designer, high end couture. The kids also do take a backseat to everything else.

After the engagement, it goes downhill. And it should have ended with the wedding. Even Charles admitted in a recent interview that he fought hard for the wedding to be the finale of the show.

R127, they dragged the will they/won’t they shit our way too long as it was. The fourth season with the “he took it back!” is interminable. The problem was they didn’t plan for interesting stories when they got together. They could’ve helped Fran start a real career, become self-actualized, etc. it’s like they let their fear that this was the core of the show sabotage it.

[quote]Nowadays any asshole who unpacks boxes on a Youtube channel can join SAG via the New Media.

In 2017 they went back and made it more difficult to Taft-Hartley yourself in via a New Media production. There was a rush of people for a couple of years that did old New Media SAG Eligible productions prior to 2017 running to find their old paperwork since they didn't qualify under the readjusted terms.

(Also consider that outside of ultra low budget projects, many of these YouTubers are part of huge corporations as hosts and often get hired by them as talent who have acting backgrounds. They just try not to make it seem that way.)

Either way, they don't care if they pay their dues. They want that money.

Rich people's problems.

Some needs to remind Zima it was a television production, not a day care. If she were unhappy, it was her parents job to get it corrected and earn their cut of her check.

There goes the re-boot.

Actually r131, she says her parents didn't take her money. They also had to pay out to hire guardians/nannies to go on to the sets with her and her two sisters, who at one time were all working.

She said when she was 18 and got her hands on her money, she bought a house in Valencia. She said she lost money on it. Looking at an LA map, this seems to be the equivalent of Hicksville, Long Island. Maybe the LA DLers know something interesting about Valencia.

Is Zima going to have kids and name them White Claw and Skinnygirl Margarita?

R109 "I'll give Rapp credit for speaking out against Kevin Spacey, but he has a reputation for being a complete DIVA (and not in a good way)."

And this is on a gay board lovingly discussing Madonna, Joan Crawford or Faye Dunaway exactly why notable? Because he's alive AND working without being an Instawhore?

[quote]Thanks for sharing that link [R125]. Sadly though, like many podcasts I've heard, the hosts talk over the guests way too much. If you want to do most of the talking on your podcast, don't invite guests on.

I’ve only heard the first 15 minutes of the interview but it’s really interesting so far! But yes I agree the hosts are annoying and talk too much.

R131 = Fran Drescher

[quote]She said when she was 18 and got her hands on her money, she bought a house in Valencia. She said she lost money on it. Looking at an LA map, this seems to be the equivalent of Hicksville, Long Island. Maybe the LA DLers know something interesting about Valencia.

She was on that show the entire time and she only made enough money to live in Valencia?😳 Not even enough to buy a home in the Valley? Wow, I’d be pissed too! Sad that on top of all that she lost money on the house.

Fran is Jewish. It’s likely Zika was underpaid.

[quote]Fran is Jewish. It’s likely Zika was underpaid.

What does the Zika virus have to do with anything?

Is this election STILL going on, this is exhausting.

Its Melissa Gilbert vs Valerie Harper all over again!

Rapp has changed his twitter display name to “Anthony Rapp 4 SAG-AFTRA Secretary-Treasurer #BLM“. God he is obnoxious.

Are there recounts going on?

[quote]Are there recounts going on?

Mostly just in Arizona.

Matthew Modine was so nice, hot and cute in Birdy and Vision Quest. He was my ideal fantasy boyfriend growing up.

Fucking Arizona!

Fran believes 5G gives people cancer and covid. She’s nuts. And what qualifications does Mr. Rapp have to be a treasurer?

[qutoe]Mr. Rapp have to be a treasurer?

He almost got a settlement from Kevin Spacy

and he's looking into joining a Hernia Mesh class action lawsuit

R125 I listened to the entire interview and it was really interesting! Although she never says Fran’s name, it’s obvious who she is talking about at certain points in the interview.

[quote]Although she never says Fran’s name, it’s obvious who she is talking about at certain points in the interview.

R149, does Zima say, "It was the lady in red when everybody else was wearing tan."

Or "It was the flashy girl from Flushing."

I'm not surprised to hear that THE NANNY wasn't a particularly "fun" or happy set. Few sets are for child actors.... but there was also some tense, behind-the-scenes stuff that happened on THE NANNY which was not widely known at the time (because someone at Sony/CBS was doing their job )

During the second season, TPTB closed the tapings to live audiences because Fran had a loony stalker who had found his way onto the Sony lot one afternoon, and was apprehended by security near her dressing room/trailer. That made her question just who exactly was coming to their tapings every Friday night. (and given her history, you could hardly blame her!)

They essentially hired a "professional audience" for the next three years (until the final season, when they opened it back up to general audiences). A group of 20-30 screened/paid extras (via casting agencies) would watch the live taping....and then their laughter was "sweetened" to make them sound like a studio audience of 150+ people. So there was heightened sense of "this is not normal" for the kids?

And then, by the time it got to the third season (and was really a HIT)....Fran had written Enter Whining. And had become a STAH! She & Peter were appearing on Oprah & such, but there was some weird shit there, too An abnormally close relationship with Robbie Schwartz one of their young writers' assistants. (He was the good-looking Israeli guy at the end of The Kibbutz episode) It seemed pretty clear to anyone with eyes that Fran was fucking Robbie, as her relationship with Peter was falling apart. Heard rumors that they were fucking openly when The Nanny cast took a cruise to film the 3rd Season finale, "Ship of Fran's" -- which made it tense & weird for all the cast members....as Peter & Fran were both their bosses.

Nobody was thinking about "the kids" (actors) and their "needs" by that point. Except maybe Charles Shaughnessy -- the only actor who had kids. I've heard from people associated with the show that Shaughnessy was the "glue" that held that cast together. The calm, consummate professional -- a truly nice person, loved by all. He almost has a Henry Winkler-esque reputation. You would be HARD PRESSED to find anyone with a negative word about him. (just ask any of his former DAYS co-stars; he is utterly adored)

R151 spill more!

You all have got to listen from the 37:30 - 39:30 section of Part One of the interview at R125! She has me cracking up when she imitates you-know-who!😂

What a load of crap fan fiction did I just read?

R154, shut up Fran.

Has Benjamin Salisbury commented yet?

None of them wanted Fran and Max to get married, because they thought it would ruin the show. But CBS basically gave Drescher an ultimatum to either have them get married or they'd cancel the show. So she had them get married.

Charles and Fran have both said in retrospect that it was a huge mistake.

Well, apparently Max and Fran are divorced and he got custody of Gracie.

[quote]Well, apparently Max and Fran are divorced and he got custody of Gracie.

Good one, R158

He also got custody of Ma (Renee Taylor) - "I'm staying neutral but I'm voting for the ticket with Joely Fisher, which also happens to be the ticket Fran's NOT on...Mallomar, anyone?"

Matt Modine has a "secret weapon" in this race.

I worked on The Nanny.

Fran and her husband controlled every aspect of production after the 3rd season. They literally nit picked over every single decision for every department.

Fran brought in Dorothy Lyman as the main director, Dorothy was a cunt. It was a bit much that Fran and Peter had their hands in everything, a bit suffocating. Fran and Renee were very close for a long time but I would guess that after the Nanny experience Renee might feel that Fran might be too controlling and not work well with others if she were given control of anything.

Both Modine and Drescher have had great plastic surgery. They look terrific. i think Modine has never looked so good.

Christ, Dorothy Lyman was married to John Tillinger? That would turn anyone into a cunt.

r151 I worked the second season and that never happened.

We were on the Culver lot not the Sony lot.

[quote]An abnormally close relationship with Robbie Schwartz one of their young writers' assistants.

This part you have right.

Charles was not much glue as he has a passive but stable personality.

Before Lyman was brought in as director, Lee Shallat Chemel was the glue. Great lady.

Lee Shallat? gosh this thread is bringing back memories. Great lady indeed.

Matthew Modine’s son does behind the camera work. His daughter is an actress who was on Shameless.

Didn't she fire the original costume designer after the designer won an Emmy?

Someone on Ken Levine's blog once posted about working with her and said that she would demand all the funny lines to herself. When a writer would say that it wouldn't give the other actor much to do she would bark "Your Point?"

The 90's sure had some real divas of primetime TV.

R167, I read that too. But watching the show, I feel like the laughs were pretty evenly divided.. I never felt like Fran got all the "good" jokes. It wasn't a Cybil situation.

I agree, R168. All the funny lines seemed to be pretty evenly spread around the cast, not just Fran.

R169, if anything, the best lines were reserved for (in descending order) Niles, CC and Val.

It was probably a joke, sounds like something Fran Fine would say.. Everyone got funny lines.

r161, I'm sure Dorothy Lyman learned the cuntiness from her years working with Vicki Lawrence. I know someone who worked with Vicki and was so disappointed in her behavior as he was a fan of hers since he was a gayling watching "The Carol Burnett Show."

Anybody know why she had a falling out with Twiggy?

Why did they name Fran's mother after Danny Kaye's beard?

[quote]Anybody know why she had a falling out with Twiggy?

I didn’t know she did. If that’s true, it sounds like she has a lot of falling outs with people.

I heard Renee Taylor has poor personal hygiene.

I understood Fran to be very well liked by her castmates from "The Nanny", it's just that they're mostly non-working LA actors like that lunkhead Modine so they fall for his bullshit.

I'm a SAG-AFTRA member and I'm voting for Fran!

[quote]I'm a SAG member and I'm voting for Modine as well. He's been in the trenches fighting for us for a long time.

Modine has performed almost zero service to the union over his career other than running for office and not knowing the difference between SAG-AFTRA the union and the Pension Fund which is an entirely separate, independent legal entity that the union does not run, or control. He's either very dumb, or a shifty liar.

The last time the more right-wing Hollywood Membership First faction was in charge it was a disaster. They made a botch of everything, of course! Most actors barely work and only pay attention to changes that affect them should they actually book jobs. In other words they have a headlines only understanding of the issues at hand. i.e. dilettantes!

[quote]Nowadays any asshole who unpacks boxes on a Youtube channel can join SAG via the New Media.

Uhm, nope. Not true!

The number of replies pretending to be from SAG members here spouting complete bullshit about the issues is staggering.

SAG the union does not run the Health & Pension Plan....at ALL. Neither Gabrielle Carteris nor Matthew Modine can "fix" it, but Modine can sure pretend he has the authority to do so. He doesn't.

Maybe they should all just write in David Duchovny, he’s smart right?

[quote]Maybe they should all just write in David Duchovny, he’s smart right?

I don't know how smart Duchovny is but he's been said to have one of the biggest dicks in Hollywood.

R181 David has always struck me as a dummy (and yes I know he’s educated).

I can make an informed decision

if I can see pix of Modine's cock, along with pix of Duchovny's cock

[quote]I don't know how smart Duchovny is but he's been said to have one of the biggest dicks in Hollywood.

Yeah well Howard Stern said the same thing and David said he does not.

Zuma moght have felt jealous that Maggie got most of the attention.

R87 IIRC, Melissa GIlbert gained a lot of support from members who hated William Daniels' leadership of SAG and Daniels backed Harper which probably lead to Half Pint getting supporters.

R186 Maggie didn't even get a high school graduation episode

Okay, what was Lauren Lane like? I feel like a lot of us on DL relate to Miss Babcock more than we'd like to admit.

[quote][R186] Maggie didn't even get a high school graduation episode

But she got boned by James Marsden, so she's not complaining

R190, she also ended up with that really hot guy who was (on the show) a model

Actress Lee Purcell is running for National Board as UFS candidate. Interesting because she used to support some right wing causes years ago.

Is running for a place on the SAG board basically what people who no longer have success getting acting roles aim for?

Maggie got a rabbit test and a wedding whilst Shmuey and Gracie got the shaft.

R193 I kind of think so. if you look at the candidates from UFS and Membership First many on both sides do a lot of low key projects and their careers peaked years ago.

Someone upthread mentioned Esai Morales being a Trump supporter and being an anti-vaxxer. He has dabbled in Scientology, I wouldn't be surprised if he's pals with Kirstie Alley.

$cientology keeps a much lower profile due all the scandals and exposes over the years

Kirstie and the other clams are no longer big stars and they don't attract major stars in Hollywood they way they once did

But the $cientology has so much money hidden away - they can still bring pressure to bear on the right people and get things done that matter to them

And Kirstie can still go on Fox News and pretend she's a victim of the Hollywood Liberal Elite

Why the fuck are you even bring up Scientology in Fran Drescher/The Nanny thread???

^ A Clam - their Google alerts never fail them

Sorry Miss Miscavige, but shouldn't you be looking for your "late"...or um..."missing" wife

rather than trolling DL

A Special Episode Of "The Nanny"..."Where Is Shelley?"

"I have already won this election and every other election that has ever been or ever will be. Everybody says so, "Sir, you have won and will win more elections than any other human on the planet."

Doesn't Fran have enough to do with putting The Nanny on Broadway as a musical?

Patti Lupone is Yetta!

Christ, is this election not over yet?

You know, maybe they should just hire a lawyer with a background in labor and unions to run this shit show, not just washed up actors.

They should revive Yetta's Lettah's!

[quote]You know, maybe they should just hire a lawyer with a background in labor and unions to run this shit show, not just washed up actors.

That would make too much sense, though.

Is MembershipFirst really right-wing? Matthew Modine and Sharon Stone are not right-wingers. Maybe MembershipFirst is so extreme that some people think their right-wing?

Maybe MembershipFirst is the union equivalent of right-wing, but not right-wing as far as politics go?

[quote]You know, maybe they should just hire a lawyer with a background in labor and unions to run this shit show, not just washed up actors

The board are just speaking on behalf of the members, the real negotiations and strategies are done by the executives who are lawyers.

[quote]The board are just speaking on behalf of the members, the real negotiations and strategies are done by the executives who are lawyers.

So the SAG board and other elected officials are simply performers - one might even say "actors"

Fran Drescher is perceived to be the underdog in this race

She was so whiny and desperate in her last campaign speech the voters ears started bleeding

R211 I totally get the dog part.

Joely Fisher was interviewed on the KTLA morning news today about the election. She didn't mention Fran (or Rapp) by name, but said of them in the nicest way possible (paraphrasing):

"Our opponents in the election are two wonderfully talented actors, who are amazing people...but they've never set foot inside the SAG headquarters."

How diplomatically shady.

Here's the segment. Shade thrown 2:15-ish.

I really had no idea Joey Fisher was still alive.

It’s weird that Zima now casts her time on the nanny negativity. She’s done the reunions and always seemed to get along with everyone.

I never heard anything about Dorothy Lyman being a cunt. I remember that a lot of people working on the show were happy that she got the show on a 4 day shooting schedule.

R217 she hasn't mentioned it very often. She seems to be close to Shaughnessy and the other kids.

r217, she said something in the podcast about having a mini panic attack before the Zoom thing they did during the pandemic. I think she said something like, she did it for the fans.

I know I lower my opinion of people who are too big to participate in reunions. Tina Louise, Nancy McKeon, Delta Burke, Justine Bateman, and let's not forget the biggest see you next Tuesday, Eve Plumb.

Zima also participated in the 2004 reunion special on lifetime.

In the first season Gracie was the baby of the show and got featured a lot. She even had an imaginary friend and a therapist. Later on she became an afterthought. It must have hurt to be cast aside like that.

Fun Fact. She played young Lucille Ball in a tv bio.

R 221 That can’t be right, Lucille Ball was NEVER young.

R221 she described her experiences as being a prop. She's not wrong. After season 2 the kids were lucky if they had 3 lines an episode. They were usually just sitting in a group scene or being rushed out of a room.

Eh, they got well and very overpaid no matter how many lines they had, just more time to work with their on set tutors and get smart.

To be fair, Zima has said in a past interview that she’s in no position to turn down work and said she takes whatever she can get.

R215 That was hilarious! Yeah, if she hasn’t even stepped foot in the building in all the years she’s been famous, she really shouldn’t be running.

R224 I'd be happy about the money too, but you also can't fault her for saying she doesn't have great memories.

"I entered a room. I left a room"

Some people never get to enter a room.

Still curious about whether or not Lauren Lane was a bitch ...

You're confusing Lauren with C.C. Everyone loved Lauren.

That's the answer I was hoping for, R230. C.C. was one of my favorites as a gayling and I really liked Lauren and Fran's chemistry. Particularly in "The Whine Cellar."

This is a fun watch! Renee & Lauren are hilarious.

And for R231: Lauren talks about filming The Whine Cellar at 29:45

Rosie O'Donnell is supporting Fran for president, and Anthony Rapp for secretary-treasurer.

I know that Rosie and Fran have been friends for years, so I understand that endorsement, but I don't get the Rapp endorsement. I thought she was friends with Joely Fisher? Why is she jeopardizing her friendship with Joely over some guy who has zero chance of winning?

I think Rosie feels that Anthony has been given a bad Rapp.

Can someone let me know where I can find a site(s) that gives a to-the-point explanation on what each side represents and what each side claims they will do if they win?

Once again, rich people vying to represent other people who will never make $15 an hour and still get free lunches.

At least Zima didn't get fired aka Judy Winslowed from The Nanny.

Hanks A lot!

Did Fran and Peter ever do anal?

Here’s the MembershipFirst campaign video - which includes Charles!😂

Ellen Barkin is supporting Modine.

Paul Reiser is Team Modine as well.

Sharon Stone is emotionally unstable and I will NOT be voting for her.

I mean we all know Hanks has a dark and twisty side, but what exactly is Fran blackmailing him with to get the endorsement?

Fran is going to lose because her campaign is lazy. The last time she was on Twitter was July 31st, while Modine tweets all day every day for his campaign.

Is Modine channeling all his huckster manic energy from his last role as the College Scandal guy into this campaign? He strikes me as very method and holding onto the last character he played until the next one.

I wonder if Tom Hanks is supporting Fran because he had to compete with Matthew Modine for roles in the 80s (and Modine won that round).

[quote]Can someone let me know where I can find a site(s) that gives a to-the-point explanation on what each side represents and what each side claims they will do if they win?

Unless you're a member of guild, R236 , I can't imagine why you'd give a fuck.

R249 Some people are simply interested. You don’t have to be directly involved in something to be interested in it.

Yes, you're right, R250. There are multiple articles on Deadline & Hollywood Reporter about the election, and the differences between the SAG-factions. Maybe your Google is broken?

Who is Brenda Ickson supporting?

R252 She hasn’t worked in 3 1/2 decades. Is she even still a member? She probably doesn’t care.

R248, Tom Hanks is a drunk. He is probably not even sober enough to remember whom he is supporting and for what. He likely thinks he's voting for who should play Nanny Fine's mother in the movie version of the reboot of The Nanny on Broadway.

[quote]The Nanny on Broadway.

"The Nanny" is coming to Broadway?

R255:

The death of Broadway

Is anybody checking for a Broadway show for The Nanny?🤨

Patti Lupone as Fran and Christine Ebersol as Val.

R259, and Victor Garber as Mr. Sheffield.

When is the election, anyway?

As a SAG/AFTRA member since the 1960s, my vote is for Modine.

Ballots have been mailed out. My partner received his a couple days ago.

By mail? Physical mail?

R262 Are you a STAH?! ⭐️

R263 Is your partner a STAH?! 🌟

[quote] Patti Lupone as Fran and Christine Ebersol as Val.

LuPone as Yetta, no?

There's no Online Voting. Ballots must be returned by 6:30AM (PDT) on Thursday, September 2, 2021

I love how in the campaign video Whoopi Goldberg brags about how long she’s known Matthew Modine 🙄

LOL at the Zima’s recent tweet!😂 And look at the embedded tweet within hers!😄

ENTERTAINMENT LAWYER 08/17 **5**

This former A lister is paying a bot company to attack people while they run for SAG President.

What does Nicholle Tom have to say about all of this?

SAG-AFTRA’s Election Crossroads: Who Will Lead Next?

[quote]This #SAGAFTRA election is critical. The short sighted selfish leadership that kicked 12K actors off their healthcare during a pandemic is unacceptable. Vote @MatthewModine @MsJoelyFisher to save our healthcare and our rights otherwise what’s the point of having a union?

If Modine and his slate wins his supporters are in for a rude awakening when they realize there is absolutely nothing they can do about changes to their Pension and Welfare Fund. The trustees are half studio labor relations - they're not going to change anything that will be detrimental to the Fund because as Trustees they are bound to ensure its financial strength.

The SAG-AFTRA Election Takes An Ugly Turn from LA Magazine

As the race for control of the nation’s biggest actors’ union turns increasingly volatile, Unite for Strength—the SAG-AFTRA ruling party supporting union presidential candidate Fran Drescher—is calling on Matthew Modine and his upstart MembershipFirst party to denounce the “rhetoric of hate” from unnamed Modine supporters on the union’s board whom the Uniters claim are cultists and racists. Members of Modine’s camp, meanwhile, have retaliated by threatening to sue their opponents over the allegations and denouncing Drescher for spreading what they claim are anti-vax and 5G conspiracy theories.

As Deadline reports, Unite for Strength fired the first salvo in the latest union skirmish with a tweet on Sunday that accused Modine supporters on the union’s board of various acts of malfeasance.

“We challenge Matthew Modine and MembershipFirst to publicly renounce and discontinue harboring the MF (MembershipFirst) Board members who denied George Floyd’s murder, amplified death threats, joined up with the NXIVM cult, threatened to shoot supporters of vaccination requirements, called the January 6th insurrection a ‘set up’ by ‘paid operators,’ falsely spread that Black Lives Matter is a hate group funded by George Soros, and voted against a task force to increase diversity in the stunt community. We condemn this rhetoric of hate.”

wow

While Fran is at it why not also accuse Modine of firing on Fort Sumter.

This is getting juicy!

The SAG election between Melissa Gilbert and Valerie Harper got really ugly too. Melissa won in the end though.

From Backstage here's a list (not comprehensive) of celebrity endorsements for each candidate

Endorsing Fran Drescher:

Tom Hanks, Holland Taylor, Alec Baldwin, Rosario Dawson, and Debra Messing are among the actors who have endorsed Drescher.

Endorsing Matthew Modine:

Whoopi Goldberg, Liam Neeson, Diane Keaton, Mark Hamill, and George Takei are among the actors who have endorsed Modine.

The Drescher side is heavily weighted with the ultra self righteous. I wouldn't have expected that.

Matthew Modine has asked Anthony Rapp to join him at a town hall meeting for SAG members. Anthony has yet to respond but he doesn’t mind arguing with females like Joely Fisher and accusing her of lying.

Rapp is so cowardly and self righteous.

[quote] The SAG election between Melissa Gilbert and Valerie Harper got really ugly too. Melissa won in the end though.

My parents had the E! channel during that election and they were obsessed with which candidate celebrities supported. All I can recall is that Melissa Joan Hart was supporting Melissa Gilbert due to the many hours of watching Little House On The Prairie in the childhood. “I loved her braids”, Melissa mused.

I love how Modine added "I’m currently filming but will avail myself" to show that he was an actual working actor, unlike Rapp.

Also supporting Modine: Vincent D’Onofrio, Ed Asner, Mia Farrow, Ed Harris, Sharon Stone, Nick Nolte, Sean Astin, Jodi Long, Elliott Gould, Brad Garrett, Lisa Ann Walter, Frances Fisher, Sheryl Lee Ralph, Clancy Brown, Esai Morales, Patricia Arquette, Ellen Barkin, Shirley Jones, Jennifer Beals, Sandra Bernhard, Dyan Cannon, Margaret Cho, Neve Campbell, Linda Carter, Louis Gossett Jr., Shirley Jones, Bill Pullman, Rosie Perez, Elizabeth Perkins, Sally Struthers, David Alan Grier, George Stephanopoulos and Cindy Williams.

[quote]My parents had the E! channel during that election and they were obsessed with which candidate celebrities supported. All I can recall is that Melissa Joan Hart was supporting Melissa Gilbert due to the many hours of watching Little House On The Prairie in the childhood. “I loved her braids”, Melissa mused.

MJH is such an idiot so I’m not surprised. She probably also voted for her simply because they have the same first name.

Found it! On EW. Ballots went out Oct. 12 to Screen Actors Guild members to choose between ’70s TV staples Valerie Harper and Melissa Gilbert for union president. While the winner won’t be announced till Nov. 5, we asked some voters to weigh in.

CHRIS TUCKER ”The Little House on the Prairie girl because I liked that show.”

DAVID HASSELHOFF ”Melissa would be tough and Valerie would have the attitude, but neither can compete with the current president — my Knight Rider partner, William Daniels.”

ILLEANA DOUGLAS (Ghost World) ”I’d have to go with Rhoda. Valerie Harper’s a dancer, so she must have discipline.”

AMANDA BYNES (The Amanda Show) ”I’d go with Rhoda. Little House was so cliche and my dad used to make me read the books, so I’m a little bitter toward that whole show.”

MELISSA JOAN HART (Sabrina, the Teenage Witch) ”Melissa Gilbert because Little House was more my generation — we all watched and wore our hair in braids.”

DANA DELANY (Pasadena) ”Rhoda would be the scrapper. And didn’t Valerie once play a mayor on TV? She already has some political experience.”

BRECKIN MEYER (Inside Schwartz) ”I’m a Laura Ingalls kind of guy and always have been. She’s naughty.”

CUBA GOODING JR. ”Valerie Harper. And if Rhoda wins, she might make us some waffles.”

MING-NA (ER) ”Melissa Gilbert. On Little House she was always so moral, had strong opinions, and believed in herself.”

GABRIELLE UNION (Bring It On) ”We need a Celebrity Death Match, but I’d give the edge to Valerie Harper.”

MARY-KATE OLSEN ”Ashley and I are child stars, so I like that Melissa Gilbert is representing kid actors.”

R286 I love Amanda Bynes answer

R284, If Lynda Carter, Sally Struthers and Cindy Williams are supporting Modine, then that's good enough for me. Matthew Modine it is!

Does anyone know who Jaclyn Smith is supporting?

Patricia Richardson supports Membership First.

Wow ^ those are ugly re-purposed bridesmaid dresses

.......

When is the election?

R292, I think it's September 2nd

Fran's goons will be breaking skulls before this is over

Oy, you try to bring a little class to a place...

This is the thanks I get?

(Val, call Danny Imperialli and tell him to hire me back at the Bridal Shoppe just in case this doesn't work out for me)

This job looked so easy in the job description...

I thought I could do it in my bathrobe

I'm kinda known for that

Fran repeats claim that Modine's camp violated election rules.

Is Membership First out of control?

Fran is a one-trick pony.

Modine is a seasoned actor with an impressive array of performances under the belt (and a bigger cock so I've heard).

I'd vote for Modine in an instance.

When is this fucking election? Maybe the loser will start the big lie!

I wonder what they think now that she is president.

Are they still forcing actors to get boosters?

R38, Those look like matching beanbag chairs.