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How did Hilary Duff get away with blatantly stealing the sound from Depeche Mode’s “Personal Jesus”?

I can’t believe she got away with this.

I do like her version though. But still.

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by Anonymousreply 50Last Wednesday at 8:14 AM

It’s called a sample, OP. Have you heard no popular music in the last 30 years?

by Anonymousreply 1Last Tuesday at 2:01 PM

R1 tell that to Vanilla Ice and Robin Thicke.

by Anonymousreply 2Last Tuesday at 4:39 PM

R2, it's only a problem if you don't credit the writers of the song you're sampling

by Anonymousreply 3Last Tuesday at 4:41 PM

The same reason Rihanna got away with blatantly stealing Soft Sell's "Tainted Love" for "SOS". The same reason Janet got away with stealing "Ventura Highway" for "Someone to Call My Lover". The reason Britney got away with stealing an old Bollywood song for "Toxic".

It's called sampling.

by Anonymousreply 4Last Tuesday at 4:42 PM

Her voice sucks. She makes Britney sound like Kiri Te Kanawa

by Anonymousreply 5Last Tuesday at 4:43 PM

Britney is her idol. Britney’s was Janet and Madge.

by Anonymousreply 6Last Tuesday at 4:44 PM

If Britney was her idol then she have learned how to at least dance. She's a lazy artist who only got her pop career because she was a Disney star and inoffensive. She was a safe alternative to oversexualized pop stars, so parents were okay with their daughters buying her CDs. I do enjoy a lot of Hilary's singles like "Come Clean" and "So Yesterday" and I did watch Lizzie McGuire. But there's a reason her music career dwindled.

by Anonymousreply 7Last Tuesday at 4:48 PM

R1 Rihanna got sued by the estate of Michael Jackson for using "Mamase Mamasa Mamakusa" from "Want To Be Starting Something" in her song PLEASE DON'T STOP THE MUSIC.

They settled for an undisclosed sum

by Anonymousreply 8Last Tuesday at 4:49 PM

Marvin Gaye's family sued Robin Thicke for Blurred Lines too.

by Anonymousreply 9Last Tuesday at 4:50 PM

R7 she was also 15 at the time. She was “safe” and “clean” because she was a kid making pop music for kids. Only hers went mainstream

by Anonymousreply 10Last Tuesday at 4:51 PM

R9 and they won

by Anonymousreply 11Last Tuesday at 4:51 PM

R10 Hilary wasn't mainstream though. American mainstream radio was not playing Hilary Duff, Raven, Jesse McCartney, Jonas Brothers or the High School Musical songs. She was mostly on kids radio or getting a lot of airplay on MTV. They made a lot of money off of CD sales and merchandise but there was still a thick separation between teen pop music and mainstream pop. I think social media changed that.

by Anonymousreply 12Last Tuesday at 4:52 PM

OP is gonna be MAD when he discovers Bootylicious.

by Anonymousreply 13Last Tuesday at 4:55 PM

R12 they were playing Hilary, Jonas Brothers, and Jesse McCartney. Know what you’re speaking of.

All were fixtures on MTV too

by Anonymousreply 14Last Tuesday at 4:55 PM

Beautiful Soul by Jesse McCartney and Burnin Up by Jonas Brothers were radio fixtures. Z100 played them every hour.

As for Hilary, her song So Yesterday and Come Clean got radio play.

by Anonymousreply 15Last Tuesday at 4:58 PM

R14 I really don't remember any Hilary, JoBros or Jesse being on Top 40 radio at all. I do know their videos were on MTV and they were played over the reality shows and TRL was obsessed with them. Then again, much preferred 106 & Park.

by Anonymousreply 16Last Tuesday at 5:04 PM

Martin Gore of Depeche Mode is a credited songwriter for Reach Out and the sample was used legally. If other artists have been sued for illegal use that’s on them. OP was asking about the Hilary Duff song.

by Anonymousreply 17Last Tuesday at 5:05 PM

Mandy Moore was better.

by Anonymousreply 18Last Tuesday at 5:07 PM

[quote] Britney is her idol. Britney’s was Janet and Madge.

The mediocrity! It just keeps compounding.

by Anonymousreply 19Last Tuesday at 5:10 PM

I wish Lindsay Lohan got Hilary's songs because she has a stronger voice. Hilary whispers and mumbles her songs. Raven-Symoné is a good singer but Disney gave her wack ass songs and didn't even promote her music. I remember when she went on 106 & Park and threw shade at her audience for not buying her CDs.

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by Anonymousreply 20Last Tuesday at 5:13 PM

R16 Burnin Up by Jonas Bros was their first Top 10 on the charts, peaking at number 5 the summer of 2008. It was a summer hit and what catapulted them to the big stars they became.

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by Anonymousreply 21Last Tuesday at 5:15 PM

R20 doesn’t that work being that Hilary’s songs were literally written for her?

Lindsay and her had very different styles all around. Hilary had more success in the music field.

by Anonymousreply 22Last Tuesday at 5:17 PM

[quote] Burnin Up by Jonas Bros was their first Top 10 on the charts, peaking at number 5 the summer of 2008. It was a summer hit and what catapulted them to the big stars they became.

Big stars?

by Anonymousreply 23Last Tuesday at 5:17 PM

[quote] The same reason Rihanna got away with blatantly stealing Soft Sell's "Tainted Love"

Oh, dear.

by Anonymousreply 24Last Tuesday at 5:19 PM

R22 Hilary sold more and had more popular songs but her music career isn't successful anymore. Her last album didn't sell well. Hilary just got lucky because she was a popular teen star riding off the success of Lizzie McGuire. She was never going to last. She was basically a Debbie or Tiffany of the time except not as talented.

by Anonymousreply 25Last Tuesday at 5:22 PM

R25 oh I know her career is nothing now but she did have more success

by Anonymousreply 26Last Tuesday at 5:24 PM

It's called sampling, it's an entirely new song and rap and the OP has 0% knowledge of hip hop.

There's even a chance Hillary Duff got copyright consent from Depeche Mode.

by Anonymousreply 27Last Tuesday at 5:25 PM

Kylie Minogue sampled "Rock Steady" for "Look My Way". George Michael sampled "Forget Me Nots" for "Fastlove". So pop stars were doing it too.

by Anonymousreply 28Last Tuesday at 5:27 PM

Most of Will Smith’s hits were based around samples from older songs

by Anonymousreply 29Last Tuesday at 5:29 PM

Marc Almond and David Ball owe a little something to Gloria Jones people….

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by Anonymousreply 30Last Tuesday at 5:36 PM

Sounds like a bad ripoff of S.O.S by Rihanna

by Anonymousreply 31Last Tuesday at 6:00 PM

R31 right? Lmao. She has the definitive song

by Anonymousreply 32Last Tuesday at 6:23 PM

I like this song but the mv is still cringey. She's trying way too hard.

by Anonymousreply 33Last Wednesday at 6:48 AM

R8 - that's odd - considering Michael Jackson stole that from another song himself. Yes, Rihanna used a sample of MJ's song, but it's kind of rich considering he took it himself.

Manu Dibango - Soul Makossa - I believe it was from Cameroon. Other parts of that song have been sampled for other songs too.

Wonder if MJ paid anything - I doubt it as I think that was before the laws were put into place regarding sampling credits.

by Anonymousreply 34Last Wednesday at 6:54 AM

Good artists take. Great artists steal. Quincy Jones spilled the tea of how shady Michael Jackson was and how Michael would steal songs from others.

Led Zeppelin are the biggest thieves in music history. They even have a wiki page.

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by Anonymousreply 35Last Wednesday at 6:58 AM

While she is a mediocre (and I'm being generous) singer and lazy performer (she did attempt choreography for that Stranger song but looked stiff and awkward). I thought she had a lot of really catchy and well-produced feel-good songs (Come Clean, So Yesterday, Fly, Wake Up), way better than what she really deserved. I do wonder if she had found a new label during her period of popularity could she have gotten more hits and album sales. Disney obviously wanted to get rid of her once she turned 18 and her third album didn't do well. Hilary waited too long to do her fourth album and she was trying to do a Carly Rae or Kylie Minogue sound with it, I dug it, it wasn't a bad album honestly but it came out of the left field. She is not Beyoncé where she could just drop albums by surprise and expect it to be a hit.

Jesse McCartney had this song Leavin' where he tries to sound grown and macho and it's almost comical. Disney dumped him too probably he was older and also because pop star girls were a better investment.

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by Anonymousreply 36Last Wednesday at 7:15 AM

Damn, did Led Zeppelin just rip off every blues singer?

by Anonymousreply 37Last Wednesday at 7:30 AM

R36 his highest charting song, at number 10.

by Anonymousreply 38Last Wednesday at 7:32 AM

Come Clean will be forever associated with Laguna Beach.

by Anonymousreply 39Last Wednesday at 7:34 AM

Yeah Laguna Beach gave Come Clean a life of its own.

by Anonymousreply 40Last Wednesday at 7:35 AM

I liked Sparks a lot. I was sad people didn’t embrace it more

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by Anonymousreply 41Last Wednesday at 7:38 AM

MTV definitely was biased towards Hilary. Her videos won # 1 on TRL for weeks straight. Laguna Beach used "Come Clean" as a theme song. That Sweet 16 show used one of Hilary's songs too as a theme. I also remember Jesse McCartney, Lindsay Lohan, Miley Cyrus, Vanessa Hudgens and Ashley Tisdale were also getting a lot of love from MTV. It's odd to me actually how MTV (owned by VIACOM) was actively promoting Disney stars then,

by Anonymousreply 42Last Wednesday at 7:44 AM

R42 it’s about the music and what’s popular with the youth of the time. Not about who owns what.

by Anonymousreply 43Last Wednesday at 7:48 AM

What's even more bizarre is how MTV in the 80s and 90s refused to play tween pop stars and boy bands like Debbie, Tiffany, New Kids, Menudo, etc etc. They turned a leaf sometime in the late 90s obviously by embracing Backstreet Boys and Britney and later 2000s Disney stars.

by Anonymousreply 44Last Wednesday at 7:52 AM

Why is this board filled with trolls? Another exaggerated headline meant to make shit out of a woman. Give it up.

by Anonymousreply 45Last Wednesday at 7:54 AM

R45 Men and women both are guilty of plagiarism. Hilary was a manufactured pop star and ha a team that could get her the best songs, samples and production. You think people on this board don't make shit out of Justin Bieber, Shawn Mendes and BTS? Stop making celebrities out to be victims.

by Anonymousreply 46Last Wednesday at 7:56 AM

Hilary's final album "breathe in. breathe out." was so fuckijg good that even Tay Tay was accused of ripping it off. I forget which song because I don't listen to Taylor. But it's one of the few pop albums i can listen to from beginning to end.

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by Anonymousreply 47Last Wednesday at 8:08 AM

R46, except she didn't commit plagiarism. Geez. The people who wrote the song for her sampled another song and credited the writer of the song they sampled. That's not plagiarism.

by Anonymousreply 48Last Wednesday at 8:08 AM

This song has the scariest breakdown in poprock!

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by Anonymousreply 49Last Wednesday at 8:11 AM

R47 could they pick a shittier photo of Taylor 😄

R49 there's just no mistaking that Good Charlotte sound.

by Anonymousreply 50Last Wednesday at 8:14 AM
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