Provincetown Covid Cluster Results in New Mask Mandate

Advisory, not a mandate.

Beware of "Milky Loads," a far more serious threat in Ptown.

Bear week

friends just returned from there and their whole house came down with covid

Yikes, R4.

How the hell did that happen?

I specifically ordered the COVID-FREE Bear Soup!

Has Dr. Fauci commented on the Provincetown outbreak?

You may be done with Covid, but Covid's not done with you.

🎵 Covid is gonna getchu! 🎵

Come on folks, conga line!

Why don't you get a t-shirt with that slogan, R8?

I'm sure you'll be the life of the party.

Oh wait, you probably never get invited to parties.

In fact, you probably never even leave your mother's basement.

R4 are they vaccinated?

This Delta variant is no joke. While the vaccines are highly effective, Delta does have the ability to break through the protective barrier.

Somehow “protective barrier” never comes to mind when I think about Provincetown.

Indeed

I'd assume gay men would embrace a vaccine, but then I forget about the guys who can't take it.

R15. While Provincetown still has a sizeable and predominately gay summertime population, like everywhere else nowadays, the straights have weaseled their way in and at times, descended upon us.

WHORES!!

Safer to go condomless than maskless!

Those CPAPs are really gonna get a workout now!

Tea Dance = Covid Shuffle 🕺🏻

I was going to go to Provincetown in August but the place I've been staying at since 2000 is ALL booked up, but maybe it's all for the best considering this mask mandate etc and it's a BIG drive alone up there 279 miles approx.

Don’t blame the bears. This started weeks before their arrival - when the twink PROSTITUTION WHORES were there. You know, the sociopathic influencer trade batch that people like xxx pay to have around.

I know of two that got it and I thought to myself, this will show up on DL. Yes, they were vaccinated and they have Delta

this likely happened during the 4th weekend bash which is 1 of their busiest

Has anyone checked on Miss Richfield 1981. She poses wide-open-mouthed with anyone...

I personally know four people so far who are positive after going last week

I know 6 from Bear Week who are positive, 3 with symptoms.

^ Do symptoms include 32% body fat and an inability to shave their back hair?

A friend went to Ptown for the second week of July and got it. He was fully vaxxed.

He says he knows of more than a dozen people who were there around the same time and tested positive. All fully vaxxed.

There must have been a really strong Typhoid MARY to spread it to this many vaccinated people.

[quote] Ladies, visiting the Dick Dock is never a good idea. Whether it's Covid or Cooties - you're bound to catch something!

I swear I got HIV from sitting on a toilet seat!!

They estimated 89 out of the 150 they found tested positive this past week had been fully vaccinated.

Boston Globe:

Facing a surge of new COVID-19 cases since the July Fourth holiday weekend, Provincetown officials plan to hold an emergency meeting late Sunday afternoon to discuss actions needed to contain the disease’s spread.

Provincetown officials imposed an indoor-mask wearing advisory early last week after reporting what health officials are calling a cluster, which has grown to include 430 cases as of Friday.

Dumb sluts ruin everything.

^ Erma Bombeck or Ann Landers?

Take your pick.

God Forbid someone at wcvb spend 2 minutes to locate a SUMMER photo of P-town.

P-town is crowded and filled with small spaces with low ceilings.

And despite the rampant infection rates, the greedy innkeepers and hotel/guest house owners continue to charge top dollar.

Example: The Sea Glass Inn and Spa (formerly the Best Western Chateau Motor Lodge) is asking $481.00/night during August.

Fuck them and fuck Ptown.

I'm going for Carnival in a few weeks for our annual Ptown pilgrimage. I know a bunch of vaccinated people who've been there these past few weeks and who now have Covid (most with mild or no symptoms). I swear to fucking Christ if they cancel Carnival over this I am going to be extremely pissed. Everything was going so well...

Oh shut up, R40. Who gives a fuck about your orgy?

R39, yeah places like P-Town and Fire Island always screamed rich gays to me….

FOR THE ROW IN THE BACK:

🎵 Covid is gonna getchu… 🎵

Don't know about Fire Island, R42, but part of the allure of Ptown was that accommodations could be had at any price point, low, medium and high.

The perfect example of this was the Best Western Chateau, located on a hilltop on the outskirts of town. Reasonably priced but comfortable rooms. And CLEAN. You could eat off the pool deck and side walks, that's how clean the Gordon family, the original owners, kept the property.

Now, everything there, including restaurants, has been gentrified. I have yet to see anything spa-like about the Sea Glass Inn that would justify these ridiculous prices. .

I live here. It's no longer the town most of you remember.

Sadly.

looking at the weekly list of gays on Scruff traveling to Ptown the last several weeks, no they are clearly not all rich.

Ptown is not at all affordable, even in the off-season. I mean, WTF? I prefer Wellfleet, which is much quieter and more scenic.

[quote]I swear to fucking Christ if they cancel Carnival over this I am going to be extremely pissed.

R40. You're going to be extremely pissed?! That sounds bad. Ooohh, I'm sure everyone is quaking in their Speedos and is taking your threat very seriously. Girls, don't get Ms. Thing pissed! It won't be pretty.

R37. Yes, WCVB-TV Boston should know better. Get a damn summer photo of the amount of people walking on Commercial Street and visiting the dozens and dozens of shops and restaurants lining the street to show the density of Ptown.

I was in town for two weeks in July. My friends and I are negative and vaccinated. We did dinners and beach. We did NOT suck 50 dicks in the dunes, the dick dock and after hours parties. The people who complained about being positive were the same people, the week before, who were bragging about how much sex and how many partners they had the week before. Now, they are blaming the town. BTW they have all recovered. I am sure the numbers will go down to 2 this week, now that everyone knows what anonymous group sex gets you in 2021.

Ptown is not affordable. It's a great town and gay getaway, but the prices to stay anywhere are atrocious. And this is not because of Covid. It has happened for many years now. And so many places require a four- , five- and six-night minimum stay. It's very difficult for Bostonians to visit Ptown for a one- or two-night weekend stay. But regardless, the prices are insane and insulting.

Orleans, MA, in the "middle" area of the Cape, is much more affordable. I stayed in a basic, old school motel and it was very nice. Good Thai restaurant in town. I made day trips (by car) to Chatham, Wellfleet, and Ptown. I found Ptown to be too crowded, too congested (tiny, narrow streets), and too poor value. I don't "party" and I don't do random hookups, so I'm glad I stayed in a nicer part of the Cape.

Fuck no! I'm going in about six weeks, but not PTown. Wellfleet. And I'm not leaving the fucking house except for takeout and the emptiest beach I can find.

Supply and demand.

Provincetown is too popular for its own good. It's expensive because there is a steady supply of people going who will pay those rates.

Well rich gays, or gays with a lot of credit card debt r42...

I'm surprised there haven't been cluster outbreaks at Fire Island or Palm Springs yet. They're as popular as Provincetown

the latest...

I’m in PTown this week. It’s not a busy as it usually is but definitely much better than last year.

Hardly anyone is wearing masks outdoor and, even with the indoor mask mandate, there are still a few not wearing masks indoors. I assume July 4 and Bear Weeks were the busiest. Photos show gays shoulder to shoulder at the Boat Slip—not a mask in sight. Don’t know if the other weeks are that crowded. Carnival Week maybe. This is the first time I’m seeing tons of vacancy signs at B&Bs and, oddly, way more straight people than I’ve seen before.

It makes a kind of depressing sense.

Delta is so much more transmissible. From NPR: "On average, people infected with the delta variant had about 1,000 times more copies of the virus in their respiratory tracts than those infected with the original strain of the coronavirus, the study reported. In addition, after someone catches the delta variant, the person likely becomes infectious sooner. On average, it took about four days for the delta variant to reach detectable levels inside a person, compared with six days for the original coronavirus variant."

So even if everybody is vaccinated there's only so much the vaccines can do against Delta so it is inevitable, in a highly vaccinated crowd, there are infections. But generally the reporting says mild. But if an infected person is blowing out 1000x more virus and you're standing around in a dense crowd shouting at one another for an hour or ten, Delta gonna Delta.

I'd almost venture you're safer on your knees blowing a guy than standing up talking to him - and for Chrissakes, if ever there was a summer to be fucked without a kiss....

Bears are gross and hateful bitches.

R37 & R49 Yeah, all WCVB had to do was ask for a P-town photo from WCVB newsman John Atwater’s phone. Of course, the photo can’t also show his husband Adam Williams because he’s a news anchor at competing station WHDH, and perhaps because John and Adam don’t appear together in public photos very often.

It's always smart to close the barn door after the horse has bolted.

CDC is lying.

CDC had been fucking up right and left since this all began. I'm fully vaxxed, wear a mask in public, and I still am very skeptical of anything CDC says. It was their brilliant idea to announce that vaccinated people could stop wearing masks because OF COURSE unvaccinated people won't seize the opportunity to doff them. Idiots.

CDC has been correct. Vaccinated people can unmask.

It’s not the CDC’s fault if the unvaccinated do so too. The CDC can’t be held responsible for every stupid thing someone does

Clearly the CDC has been proven incorrect, R65, so shut up.

R66, please give an example. Just one

[quote]DC has been correct. Vaccinated people can unmask.

Interestingly, the WHO has been correct, despite all the slamming by the right.

The WHO said we need to mask up again and conservatives attacked. The CDC has been watching to see what happens in the US. Soon enough it will be the CDC’s recommendation too

Thoughts, R65?

This link works.

Ask and you shall receive, R65. In abundance.

Maybe, just maybe, if Trump and the Republicans hadn't blown Covid off as a Democratic hoax, or a Chinese plot to make Trump look bad (as if Trump needs anyone to make him look bad) way back in January of 2020, we wouldn't be having this discussion today and assholes like R66 wouldn't be shooting off enormous quantities of hot air out of his enormous pie hole.

I shouldn't be, but I'm surprised, at the number of gays I know swarming to Fire Island and Provincetown the last few months. Yes, vaccines are out, but heading to densely populated parties first thing? Yeah, not interested in playing guinea pig. I have a few vacations planned next month, but standing shoulder to shoulder with 1000 strangers...not on the agenda.

[quote] Maybe, just maybe, if Trump and the Republicans hadn't blown Covid off as a Democratic hoax, or a Chinese plot to make Trump look bad (as if Trump needs anyone to make him look bad) way back in January of 2020, we wouldn't be having this discussion today and assholes like [R66] wouldn't be shooting off enormous quantities of hot air out of his enormous pie hole.

Exactly how does being critical of the CDC's ridiculous move to tell vaccinated people it was ok to stop wearing masks equate to supporting Trump and Republicans, you stupid fuck?

R71, yes, the thought is circumstances have changed so CDC changed its guidance.

No one can foretell the future, not even the CDC. As the situation evolves, so do CDC pronouncements.

We don’t know what will happen tomorrow with Covid so it’s stupid to demand that CDC keep today’s guidance if things change tomorrow.

R72, no, I haven’t received anything convincing at all. The CDC has been correct, responding to fluctuations.

Do you really want the CDC to stick to one guidance no matter how Covid evolves? Science doesn’t work like that

I want the CDC to allow science to guide them, not pressure to restore the economy.

And the science at the time was that those who had taken the vaccine could unmask.

And now there’s a variant for which the vaccine may not be as effective. Time to remask, likely.

CDC is following the science

Sweetheart, give it up. You're wrong. The Delta was around AND in the US before the CDC made their proclamation. The CDC fucked up and so did you.

Now 860 cases have been linked to the Provincetown cluster.

The CDC says that its recent guidance to mask indoors in high risk places was partially based on what seemed to have happened in PTown—vaccinated people were infected with Covid (sometimes asymptomatically) and giving it to other vaccinated people.

I don’t slut shame. People should be free to take all the anon raw loads that their musky hole can handle. But for the love of gawd, keep kissing relegated to fat cocks and dripping fuck holes! No face contact!

Outdoor bareback sex has always been my preferred scene. I feel vindicated.

Stay outside and away from Covid. Don’t kiss anyone, don’t talk to anyone, just dump your load in an orifice and leave.

[Quote] Sweetheart, give it up. You're wrong. The Delta was around AND in the US before the CDC made their proclamation. The CDC fucked up and so did you.

The CDC doesn’t just offer guidance for the fun of it. It waits until the studies are done and verified and THEN it gives the guidance. So, although the Delta variant has been here for a while, the CDC watches and studies how it reacts. The CDC only just concluded that it affects the vaccinated and spreads as easily as chicken pox and only now has made its recommendation to mask up in active areas.

Science takes time.

Don't feed the bears, they may be dangerous.

The CDC was still wrong.

Wrong yesterday, or wrong in May, R86?

Wrong by jumping the gun and telling everyone to take off their masks if they're vaccinated. Logic told us it was a stupid thing to say.

Will the sick bears have to be put down?

I can't imagine, right after getting vaccinated, rushing to crazy crowded events. I'm going out, seeing friends, restaurants, all that jazz, but the idea of being packed in with thousands of strangers...pass

Whooooooooh!!!

I blew my husband under the Dick Dock last summer.

[quote]I blew my husband under the Dick Dock last summer.

I blew your husband there, too.

I'm gonna blow you and your husband.

Apparently 74% of those infected were fully vaccinated. Jesus. This surge is going to be terrible

[quote]Apparently 74% of those infected were fully vaccinated. Jesus. This surge is going to be terrible

And virtually none of them had anything more than mild symptoms. Meanwhile, it was Bear Week in Provincetown - hundreds or thousands of guys having sex all week - pretty ideal conditions for transmission. Plus, the outbreak has now fizzled out (per the mayor) and has not spread regionally (compare that to the Sturges event in South Dakota last year where the entire upper Midwest saw a huge surge in cases for weeks afterward).

The vaccines work. Provincetown is not a typical scenario and the media has been pretty irresponsible in how it's portrayed the whole thing (the "spreads as easily as chicken pox" thing is especially misleading and not what the CDC says).

The PTown Town Manager is the biggest whore there. Blows anything at dick dock. No wonder its spreading.

Mild symptoms or asymptomatic for vaccinated people. Geez, stop with the hysteria.

Very few actually got sick.

[quote] Apparently 74% of those infected were fully vaccinated. Jesus. This surge is going to be terrible

Yes, and what percentage of people in attendance during that same time frame didn’t get infected at all?

You do realize, I hope, that the more people in a particular population get vaccinated, the greater the number of positive cases will be among vaccinated people, right? This virus could still be circulating even if we got to a 100% vaccination rate. And guess what, 100% of the positive cases in that scenario would be among vaccinated people.

Please try to grasp this very simple concept.

If the test measures antibodies... wouldn't all vaccinated people test 'positive'?

Put the bears down. They are FAT and gross!!!!!

This started the July 4 week. Nothing to do with bear week. This fake news

Covid isn't the only virus making the rounds at Bear whatever.

so out of the 132 infected, how many were vaccinated?

this epidemiologist is a friend, I also had seven different friends get covid in Ptown.

I think his message at the end is very important

This is further proof that a hard cock makes some guys highly stupid.

Gays explain the science here

So fat pig gross bears only go to P-town during bear week? Sure, Jan. They were polluting the town during July 4 as well. Got what they deserved.

Cute Dr Levasseur is a friend

Of yours

Of Shep

Or of Dorothy

he's my friend, but yes, he's also a friend of dorothy

From what I've seen/read, the most at-risk group outside of old people are overweight middle-aged men.

I'm just sayin'

The bear doc at 105 bred me a few times. Nice cock

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

I keep wondering as I read this weather semen makes it easier to get the corona. I’m sure no one’s gonna cover this but I just wonder

R114, did he happen to mention the potency of milky loads.

Yes, the PTown event was gay men, being very close, and having lots of sex.

Still, if I have sex with a guy who has the measles, I’m still not going to get it because of the vaccine.

So the vaccines aren’t full proof but are still very effective to against severe disease. Vaccinated people can still carry and spread the delta variant.

Alex Morse likes college guys.

R118, who doesn’t

Morse was the youngest mayor of Holyoke, MA before he became PTown administrator

R111, he’s sexy as fuck

Where exactly is the dick dock at PTown?

This just shows the importance of getting to herd immunity—over 70-80% vaccinated. The US is at about 60% of adults.

We are protected as a community if we reach herd immunity

The people who are vaccinated and who get Covid very very rarely ever become very sick. All of the people that got Covid during the 4th of July in Ptown were vaccinated and only have cold like symptoms. But people who are vaccinated and get Covid can pass it on to unvaccinated people.

The positive numbers in Provincetown are way down. That will never be reported in the news though. They basically write off the town for the summer and don't report the good news and good behavior.

I don’t mind the stupid deplorables who are unvaccinated getting Covid and croaking. I just don’t want to give it to kids who can’t get vaccinated yet.

But after the kids are vaccinated by the end of this year (hopefully), the masking ends

[Quote] The positive numbers in Provincetown are way down. That will never be reported in the news though. They basically write off the town for the summer and don't report the good news and good behavior.

The problem was most of those positives took Covid elsewhere as most affected were tourists. 900 are now connected to that outbreak

[quote]One of the bars is like a 'dang dungeon where sweat drips from the ceiling and mold reaches up the walls,' Sullivan said.'It might have been designed for viral transmission,' he added.

sully knows nothing about virology

[quote]Still, if I have sex with a guy who has the measles, I’m still not going to get it because of the vaccine.

you might

[quote]The bear doc at 105 bred me a few times. Nice cock

he's SUPER happily married but before that was sort of a partier.

[quote]he's SUPER happily married but before that was sort of a partier.

Clearly this is a the hopeful yet suspicious spouse...

Will their fat necks make it harder for bears to be intubated?

[Quote] One of the bars is like a 'dang dungeon where sweat drips from the ceiling and mold reaches up the walls,' Sullivan said.'It might have been designed for viral transmission,' he added.

Which bar is he talking about?

[Quote] Will their fat necks make it harder for bears to be intubated?

No

The problem was most of those positives took Covid elsewhere as most affected were tourists. 900 are now connected to that outbreak

This town had been doing everything right for 2 years . The "Tourists" brought it with them.. (Possibly) unvaccinated from Texas and the south. It wasn't intentional, it's just the way it happened. And people were reckless for two weeks . Everyone back to behaving and the numbers show it.

R130 yeah he partied in my ass. He's a rough fuck.

Bears are gross even when they aren't helping to spread a deadly virus.

How many of the parties was Andrew Sullivan at?

[quote] The people who are vaccinated and who get Covid very very rarely ever become very sick. All of the people that got Covid during the 4th of July in Ptown were vaccinated and only have cold like symptoms. But people who are vaccinated and get Covid can pass it on to unvaccinated people.

Oh, you went and talked to every infected person in PTown to find out that they only had cold-like symptoms and that they won't be suffering from anything in the future tied to Covid? Aren't you the industrious one.

The article about Andrew Sullivan was good, but why call P-town “lgbtq-friendly”? It’s a town for GAY MEN.

[quote]If the test measures antibodies... wouldn't all vaccinated people test 'positive'?

Depends on the tests. PCR and antigen are looking for signs of infection, proteins indicating active infection. Antibody tests look for antibodies. Different animals.

No stranger to idiotic statements, Milky Loads offered this whopper: 𝑺𝒊𝒏𝒄𝒆 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒗𝒂𝒄𝒄𝒊𝒏𝒂𝒕𝒆𝒅 𝒂𝒑𝒑𝒆𝒂𝒓 𝒕𝒐 𝒃𝒆 𝒂𝒃𝒍𝒆 𝒕𝒐 𝒕𝒓𝒂𝒏𝒔𝒎𝒊𝒕 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒗𝒊𝒓𝒖𝒔 𝒂𝒔 𝒘𝒆𝒍𝒍, 𝒗𝒂𝒄𝒄𝒊𝒏𝒆 𝒑𝒂𝒔𝒔𝒑𝒐𝒓𝒕𝒔 𝒍𝒐𝒔𝒆 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒊𝒓 𝒑𝒐𝒘𝒆𝒓 𝒕𝒐 𝒓𝒆𝒎𝒐𝒗𝒆 𝒂𝒍𝒍 𝒓𝒊𝒔𝒌".

Well, yeah, idiot... if they do transmit and if a passport divides the herd in risk and less risk, who they transmit to still matters.

And no one claimed the vaccines eliminate all risk - they mitigate it. The tool.

The basically eliminated all risk (99.95% of it) until Delta came along and reduced the effectiveness to, supposedly, 19%.

Yes, 19% is what someone claimed on Twitter based on a study in Israel.!

[quote[Oh, you went and talked to every infected person in PTown to find out that they only had cold-like symptoms and that they won't be suffering from anything in the future tied to Covid? Aren't you the industrious one.

There are people called epidemiologists and public health experts (have you heard of them?) who interview everyone involved in an outbreak such as this one, who contact the people they were in contact with, who tally up their symptoms. How do you think we know how many people were involved in this?

Did they also tell your fortune, R144?

[quote]Sixty-nine percent of confirmed cases among Massachusetts residents have occurred in individuals who were fully vaccinated, officials confirmed, and those infected have been found to be predominantly symptomatic.

Did those of you saying the vaccinated who got infected were all asyptomatic and didn't get sick forget how to read?

While we all know what was going on in Provincetown, the media has been extremely careful to avoid pointing out that it was basically a giant gay male orgy.

And to the idiot saying that Provincetown is a gay man's town, sorry, but the lesbians were there first.

Okay, so it’s a gay and lesbian town, R147. Not a fucking “LGBTQ+” town.

Agreed, R148. At this point, gays and lesbians will have to start colonizing our own islands and starting a navy to keep straights, Qs, and Ts away.

R106 Or as Robin Williams put it, “God gave men a brain and a penis, but only enough blood for one at a time.”

[quote] There must have been a really strong Typhoid MARY to spread it to this many vaccinated people.

There was a rumor that a certain performer with an immensely gaping hole may have something to do it. Too much fisting and not enough washing

[quote] Oh shut up, [R40]. Who gives a fuck about your orgy?

I do, I was looking forward to shooting my loads up some hot twinks asses after being shut down by covid. The need to seed is intense.

[quote] I was in town for two weeks in July. My friends and I are negative and vaccinated. We did dinners and beach. We did NOT suck 50 dicks in the dunes, the dick dock and after hours parties.

R50 well, I’m sorry your vacation sucked - or actually lacked any serious sucking. P-Town is all about the sun, the fun, and the endless fornication.

R56 Well, isn’t that Grand.

[quote] Will the sick bears have to be put down?

Probably

[quote] I'm gonna blow you and your husband.

Now that’s just showing off

R96 he took my load

[quote] The article about Andrew Sullivan was good, but why call P-town “lgbtq-friendly”? It’s a town for GAY MEN.

No. It's absolutely not.

As someone pointed out above, [italic]the lesbians were there first.[/italic]

[bold]DEAL WITH IT.[/bold]

[quote] Where exactly is the dick dock at PTown?

It's in the mountains, Rose.

From the quote at r114:

"Sullivan, who lives in Provincetown, packs about 40,000 people in a town of about 3,000 during peak season."

HE packs about 40,000 people in town?

I doubt anyone's surprised. Same old slutty Andy.

there was a tv show based on this town, was it cancelled?

That was Providence, R161. Unless you're talking about some porn I'm unfamiliar with.

no, there is a starz (I think) drama called P-Town

Because P-Town was colonized recently, last two decades, by rich straights. Owners.

r161, that's Hightown. They shot a second season but it hasn't been released yet. (Starz also has P-Valley, which is about a strip club in Mississippi.)

If the CDC is reexamining its take and guidance on Delta-variant Covid infection and spread based on Provincetown-originating outbreaks, including vaccinated people's "breakthrough" ones, I think a little critical thinking is in order before pushing for the general population in so-called uptick areas to start needing to increase mask mandates and wearing indoors, etc., given that the Ptown upticks likely were first centered on a summer holiday weekend in a relatively small, densely packed tourist town where throngs of people crammed into places packed like sardines and interacting physically quite a lot. Not everywhere is that happening, and so to base increasingly restricted mask mandates again on the Ptown-originated infections' particular setup dynamics seems prematurely too cautious and not enough fully thought out to me.

thank you R165, that was the series I was thinking of. I watched the first season.

Hightown - I watched it. Meh. Lot of wasted potential.

R161 R162 R163 R165 Thanks for that gay version of a George Burns and Gracie Allen routine.

All joking aside, P-town is a good community in a very vaccinated state. Good contact tracing. It seems like they got enough of a grip on the outbreak that friends of mine could visit a week or so as if the covid cluster didn't happen. Granted this is a mixed gay/straight group and tea dance isn't on their agenda.

Is tea still on? It's looking subdued on Instagram.

R166, I'm actually starting to think that the CDC is just using this as an excuse to reverse the policy. It gives them cover to fix their original mistake and no one is questioning it because then they'll have to explain that everyone there basically got Covid at an orgy.

Your theory doesn't hold water because in Los Angeles, 20% of all new infections in the month of July were breakthrough, and they were a hell of a lot more than 883.

I laughed out loud at this bit in the NYT this morning: "By the end of the week, Mr. Katsurinis was taking reports of positive coronavirus cases — all gay men, with an average age of 30 to 35, many of whom had seen a doctor for other reasons, like flu symptoms [italic]or sexually transmitted infections, [/italic]not suspecting the coronavirus."

That's us!

also from NYT: At least 233 staff members at two major San Francisco hospitals, most of them fully vaccinated, tested positive for the coronavirus this month, and most, according to a hospital official, involved the highly contagious Delta variant.

Some of the cases were asymptomatic, most involved mild to moderate symptoms and only two required hospitalization, officials said. The infections were determined to be Delta-related because most samples in San Francisco were tested for the variant, which is now dominant in the city.

About 75 to 80 percent of the more than 50 staff members infected at Zuckerberg San Francisco General Hospital were fully vaccinated, Dr. Lukejohn Day, the hospital’s chief medical officer, said in an interview on Saturday. The University of California, San Francisco Medical Center said in a statement issued on Friday that 153 of its 183 infected staff members had been fully vaccinated.

The statement from the U.C.S.F. Medical Center said that two of the infected staff members required hospitalization. None of the infected staff members at San Francisco General have been hospitalized and most had mild to moderate symptoms, Dr. Day said. The asymptomatic cases were discovered through contact tracing.

Without vaccinations, Dr. Day said, the hospitalization rate would be much worse.

--

It's so disappointing. I thought we had made major strides returning toward normal.

Well, I never stopped wearing a mask when in public. This summer, I've been to two gatherings: 4th of July, about 30 people at someone's house, and a family birthday party a week ago. I quarantined for 5-6 days after each event. Everyone is vaccinated, no one wore a mask. So far we're all fine. But I'm all finished with social gatherings until I get my booster. My sister was going to Chicago to visit friends, (we live in South Carolina, ) and she was going to fly, now she will drive. Alone. My mother is torn between worrying about her driving alone and her flying during COVID.

Is this officially the "Andrew Sullivan Cluster?"

The huge problem with Andrew Sullivan’s “lets just let it rip” suggestion is that there is a huge part of the population that can’t get vaccines —kids under 12.

Sure they are unlikely to get the disease in the first place but it seems like Delta is infecting kids a lot.

Also, kids between 12 and 18 who have assholes as parents who won't let them get vaccinated because they'd rather have their kids die than go against Trumpkind.

[quote] No. It's absolutely not. As someone pointed out above, the lesbians were there first. DEAL WITH IT.

Yes, R158, I saw that reply, and replied to it @ R148 in acknowledgment of the lesbians’ original claim to the land. I don’t know why you’re responding to me as if I disputed that or even merely ignored it.

Unless you’re contending that P-town belongs to the lesbians even today and isn’t known primarily for being a destination for horny gay men who want to fuck. If that’s what you’re claiming, good luck with that.

[quote] Well, I never stopped wearing a mask when in public. This summer, I've been to two gatherings: 4th of July, about 30 people at someone's house, and a family birthday party a week ago. I quarantined for 5-6 days after each event.

Why would you quarantine after that? Did you wear a mask at both events?

Masking up is to help the people who are unvaccinated.

Most of whom are idiots.

Indeed

I saw this on GMA. Did Trevor Ault and Alex Morse blow each other afterward?

Live! from the Provincetown Covid Cluster. Trevor Ault and Rob Marciano are on the scene.

A hip chic talking about the outbreak

Why hasn’t Gio Benitez been in P-Town? Those are his ‘people’.

R180, No masks at the events.

I Was Part of the July Fourth Provincetown “Breakthrough” COVID Cluster. It’s Been a Sobering Experience.

It doesn’t seem so benign, even if vaccinated.—loss of taste and smell, fever chills. Sure, it prevented death but that’s it.

yeah, my friends who went had a great variety of reactions, a bad headache to more than a week of aches and pains and sinus issues.

^^ Sounds like my life year-round, even pre-Covid

yeah, the fact that sinus troubles is a common symptom of delta worries me as I get sinus issues at the drop of a hat

The bears ruin P-Town.

how?

R188, you’re saying there’s nothing in between those symptoms and death?

The PTown cluster occurred before Bear Week. it was July 4th weekend

R192

If you're going to blame anyone - though you shouldn't - this all started with the circuit boys from July 4th.

R195 beat me to it. Sorry to repeat.

Beat those circuit boys

Did the whole Gays Over Covid do anything to punish those circuit sluts?

The bears and their fat nasty body odor spread the virus. Gross!

R200, let me guess. You're an MD, PhD, MBA, MPH, JD who used to work for the CDC