In Florida news, two men found dead in Hotel Room at Former Versace Mansion

It's CURSED!!!!!

Did they fuck each other to death? OD? Did they try that new variation on fisting that everyone is talking about, where one guy puts his head up the other guy's ass - thereby rupturing one, causing him to bleed out, while the other suffocated? Drug deal gone wrong? Heart attack, followed by sympathetic heart attack? Maybe it was the ghost of Andrew Cunanan - not even death could slake his blood lust - or the ghost of Versace, taking his revenge on all who live.

Maybe they psychically read this post from the past and died of boredom!

Someone call sister Andrew Gillum and make sure he made it home to the wife last night!

Fentanyl

I'm doing a show on this

"Police said they received a call from housekeeping"

"Hola? Policia! Policia! Thees Concepcion at the Villa Casa Casuarina! O dios mios, thar ees dos dead bodies in the room! Come QUEEK!!"

Andrew Cunanan has risen from the grave!

Waiting for tonight, when you would be here in my arms… 😩

Did they have disco lights?

No doubt the details are sordid. Gay men really are our own worst enemies.

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More pictures... Donald Trump put in a bid for property, but lost.

The first thing that came to mind was some kind of tacky suicide pact but there's almost no information anyway.

It's only been several hours since bodies were discovered. Give it time R13......

The first thing that came to my mind was “Again?”

Murder/suicide or overdose.

It's the ghost of Andrew Cunanan.

No me recuerdo.

It will be interesting to see how many bodies are discovered when they backtrack these two men.

¡Casa de la Muerte!

[quote]Did they try that new variation on fisting that everyone is talking about, where one guy puts his head up the other guy's ass.

LIke Monica did with the turkey on Friends.

A drug deal gone bad, it's Miami.

Has anyone checked on Darren Criss?!

Did they have strobe lights, poppers, meth and rubber gloves for deep fisting? Was a hamster involved?

Updates?

On tonight's episode of American Horror Story: Hotel.....

Police say double suicide.

It is actually called "Pulling a Monica," R20!

These guys were young.

The scene was contained to the suite, and detectives are still investigating the deaths of Adam Rashap, 31, of Randolph, New Jersey, and Alexander Gross, 30, of York, Pennsylvania, police said.

[quote] Did they try that new variation on fisting that everyone is talking about, where one guy puts his head up the other guy's ass - thereby rupturing one, causing him to bleed out, while the other suffocated?

That is soooo not a thing.

Except, maybe, in San Francisco.

Never fails to make me laugh, r20...

I'm waiting to see how hot their are before I judge

???

A cute Adam Rashap is on LinkedIn.

It was suicide...probably after realizing the room costs $750 a night. WTF!!!!!

Adam is hot -- at least I think this is him

That’s him. AIDS volunteer work

Gun shot deaths.

How did no one hear two shots?

They stared at Donatella's nude body in the pool and turned to stone.

Adam was a pharmacy technician. Poor.

gotta be drugs. no brainer

R41, well, Adam had access to drugs. Lots of 'em.

Cops say it was gun shots.

I'm sure they had drugs in their system

Romeo and Romeo

Suicide

That's so sad.

R46 yes, we know, dear.

Shexy homoshexualsh commit shuishide at the Vershashe Manshion in Shouth Beach!

[quote] Adam is hot -- at least I think this is him

Was hot

Until more developments come from LE investigation it's almost pointless to bother reading media reports.

Most have now only a few bits about two deceased, but far more about rest of sordid past of Versace the man and that mansion.

Murder suicide may still be on the table. Why shoot themselves when pills and booze were available. And Liza on their IPod.

So that’s 3 shootings at the Hotel… should I book a room?

Were their lives so terrible that they decided to go in a bang?

Something went really wrong with the psych tech's life. He completed 3 years of medical school, (accruing huge debt, no doubt), did fine on the hardest test in the world, the USMLE Step 1, and then he doesn't bother getting his degree? It is not clear he graduated.

I, too, was dismayed with medical school. I even took time off to consider options. I found out that with an MD, there are so many non clinical options. Public health, research, MBA/pharma investing, malpractice law, etc.

Something went very wrong for him to chose not to complete the easiest year (4th year) and be eligible for Step 2 and internship.

Good love'n gone bad?

Sheesh, that house can't catch a break.

Yes, I was reading his LinkedIn and saw that too.

I can't believe that my hunch it was a suicide pact was right. I think it was a combination of a) the location b) the date c) the Covid pandemic which has been very difficult for some people to deal with.

I hope they charge their estates for a cleaning fee.

Does anyone have pictures of the men?

He must have had some psychotic break in medical school. Interesting that he said on his LinkedIn page that he realized med school wasn’t the right fit for him.

But being a pharmacy tech is???

He proudly lists his Board scores, so he was still trying to use his med school years to get him a job.

I assume Univ of Hawaii is hard to get into, especially from out of state because it’s in, well, Hawaii

He had a bunch of middling jobs after med school. He must have felt like a complete failure and thus the suicide

R62

To be fair with four years of pre-med, then several of medical school that person might as well do something with that background.

A good number of failed medical students end up in nursing, pharmacy, or other medical related fields.

Leaving aside professional goals and satisfaction people have to eat and pay bills you know...

R64, yes, but as pharm techs? Not even a pharmacist.

A pharm tech is the cashier at the pharmacy.

I suspect he took the job in order to have ready access to drugs, r65.

Pharm tech is faster than becoming a pharmacist. Most states (if not all) it takes four years of post grad to become a pharmacist. Someone from med school might have enough credits that could transfer, but still would likely have more credits and other requirements to complete. Pharmacists also require post grad/residency as well. So it's not like this guy or anyone else could simply bounce out of med school (without even graduating), and become a pharmacist.

OTOH again being a pharma tech or assistant would be a piece of piss for someone who made it through pre-med and three years of medical school .

R67, but you’d also be paid peanuts in comparison to being a doctor.

He had this pharm tech job for 6 years so wasn’t trying for anything else—yet he trumpets his med school experience in his LinkIn top byline.

Something went wrong. Maybe his grade were bad. Maybe he has psych probs.

He did kill himself. Life wasn’t going well

[quote]They stared at Donatella's nude body in the pool and turned to stone.

That would at least explain the motivation for the double suicide.

R68

Will you stop focising on med school!

The guy quit med school before graduating for whatever his personal reasons. That did *NOT* absolve need to find some sort of employment.

Student nurses who quit programs before graduation take nursing assistant/tech or other healthcare related jobs. What of it? Yes, the pay is less but they know that going in, and knew it also when left nursing school.

Law students to paralegals, and the list goes on.....

Again obviously if you quit professional education before graduating there goes that high paying meal ticket. But this poor soul obviously wanted out of medical school, period. Must I remind you again completing medical school isn't end of things. There would have been three to four years of post graduate (once called intern and residency). Then maybe a few years more if a doctor wants a certain specialty. In actuality graduating med school is just the beginning.

Not every newly graduated physician matches a post grad program their first round of applying. Until they complete post (med school) graduate training it isn't as if a new doctor is going to be raking in huge bucks.

Why shouldn't this person not list his accomplishments on various websites? Completed pre-med and getting into med school isn't too shabby, even if someone doesn't finish the latter.

[quote] Most states (if not all) it takes four years of post grad to become a pharmacist.

It takes 4 to 5 yrs, depending on the school. No post grad/residency required.

There are only about 3 classes that might have been transferrable. And even if that happened, it wouldn't have saved him any time. They only offer pharmacy classes in a set schedule. He wouldn't have been able to get ahead a semester or anything like that. The most he could hope for is one less class the 1st semester and 2 less classes the next semester and that's it. They'd still be full semesters. Pharmacy school is 18 credits a semester as opposed to 12

He could have earned $100,000 a year

I hope this story is juicy so I can create a miniseries.

r68, He became a drug addict in Med school, flamed out, then sought a position in which he would have access to drugs.

What qualifications do you need to be a pharmacy tech?

You need a pharmacy technician license. He could have easily passed that with his medical school knowledge

Did anyone else find Cunanan cute?

If you find Crazy Eyes cute, r76

For God’s sake, they’re just counting pills and making labels.

Was they found nekkid?

Give us the details. Were there two guns? Did they kiss passionately with guns held to their heads? Was there only one gun ? Did one kill himself without telling the other of his intent and the heart-sick other chose to follow suit?

I want to know details too. How did they know each other and how did the suicide pact come about? Was there a letter or other evidence (texts/emails) that it was a suicide pact? Why did they want to kill themselves?

American Gay Horror Story

Redundant with Ryan Murphy producing, R82.

[quote] Will you stop focusing on med school!

I am well acquainted with medical school education. The reason why this sticks out so much is I have never heard of ANYONE dropping out of medical school AFTER 3rd year. NEVER. Why forgo the benefits of an MD when you have your easier year left?

And he keeps touting that he actually went to med school. Sure, that may mean he's smart and capable, but the alarms go off because he left after the 3rd year. The obvious question is WHY.

His reasoning that it wasn't a good fit doesn't cut it, and, if I were a potential employer, I'd be very wary.

[quote] But this poor soul obviously wanted out of medical school, period. Must I remind you again completing medical school isn't end of things.

It would have been far more marketable if he had an MD at the end of his name, whether or not her went on to internship and residency. I know people with MDs who went to wall street, drug companies, health foundations--without having completed a residency. Their MD was the ticket.

He left before the MD. He had no ticket and was stuck working at a drug store.

He left Med school because he was a suicidal drug addict. Duh.

Sort of. He was half Filipino. I remember watching it on the news when he was still alive I guess his mom was pleading to turn himself in with that garbled Filipino accent

[quote]with that garbled Filipino accent

You're disgusting, R87.

And, by the way, how is your Tagalog? I do hope your accent is not garbled.

I would rather see Paul Mike White's interpretation of this over Ryan Murphy's.

Maybe he was stealing drugs from his workplace and about to be arrested and went to Miami for one last hurrah

Was the other guy also a CVS employee? What about him? What do we know about him?

Why would anyone want to go to medical school. My doc, who is a specialist, makes less money than my daughter with a bachelor's degree and both are in the 250K range. They have to be awfully dedicated to go into medicine unless they are going to be in one of the highest paying specialties.

You can easily earn $100,000 per year in sales. You have to have to have a degree, but selling steel or alumnum and/or pther industrial products earns you some decent bucks.

250k puts you in the top 10%, and probably higher, so it's still very well-paid. And being a doctor is a respected position, you're helping people get better (some find this aspect attractive for a career). However, the hours and debt may suck.

[Quote] Why would anyone want to go to medical school. My doc, who is a specialist, makes less money than my daughter with a bachelor's degree and both are in the 250K range.

But your daughter is a high priced hooker

He killed himself because he realized his entire life would have been as a CVS pharmacy clerk

Well... it's better than Rite Aid.

30 is young as hell. There were numerous other avenues he could have taken to change his professional life if he was unhappy in his job.

Who's the other guy?

R80

Yes, there were two guns, each man shot himself. Sounds gruesome....

Both men had histories of mental illness and depression, so there you are....

"My doc, who is a specialist, makes less money than my daughter with a bachelor's degree and both are in the 250K range."

So you discuss the doctor's personal finances while he has you on the examination table? And he charges you for this? Is there a co-pay?

Did these guys really shoot each other? Show me in writing.

Druggy, druggy, druggy. Statistically medical doctors have the highest rate of drug addiction, who would have thought?

Yet he was not a medical doctor. Skip 4th year, no MD diploma.

Everyone keeps saying he would’ve had easy access to drugs working in a pharmacy, but wouldn’t controlled substances be tightly controlled and monitored? There are cameras everywhere. The last time I had a severe episode of diverticulitis I asked for one Tylenol with codeine to get some relief and they wouldn’t prescribe it and acted as if I was a drug seeker. They have gone in the opposite direction with the opioid epidemic. I wouldn’t think it would be easy to be a drug addicted pharmacy employee anymore.

Yes, R104, but he had a prescription(s) for opiates.