Canadian Gossip - Part 3

Previous thread:

Idiot, OP. We were nowhere near being maxed out on Part 2. 😠

R2 Part 2 is paywalled, sunshine. Hence the recent lack of replies.

It’s Canada, R3, hence the lack of replies. And I say this as a Canadian.

It's a semi-niche thread/topic but it was updated almost daily, R4. Posting stopped once it got paywalled.

Canada gets it’d first indigenous Governor General

What’s going on with the creepy Kielburger brothers?? Their joint testimony a few months ago was hilarious.

Has anyone seen Jian lately? I wonder how he spends his days.

Gossip on newly single Connor Jessup? Very handsome and talented.

Any gossip on Nenshi and Bowman? They have both got to be gay.

R6, Mary Simon seems like a decent choice for Governor General. Her only drawback is that she doesn't speak French.

R8, do we know why Connor Jessup & Miles Heizer broke up?

R9, Nenshi definitely pings. Maybe he didn't come out while he was Mayor of Calgary because Alberta is still very conservative. And Bowman pings, too, although he's married to a woman and has kids.

Mary Simon speaks Inuktitut. Maybe it's time to recognize Canada's indigenous population.

Jody Wilson-Raybould won't run in next election

R12– Good riddance to bad rubbish

Green party executive launches membership review of its own leader, Annamie Paul:

Canceled now, R14.

WTF is going on with the Greens? I'm saddened and very disappointed. They're my party! I hole they're organized enough to run a candidate in every riding.

[quote] Canada gets it’d first indigenous Governor General

First Nations!

I hope the NDP lose every seat next provincial election in Ontario. As just one example, Suze Morrison is a horrible MPP in Toronto Centre. Her staff doesn’t return calls or emails. I’ve also heard complaints from community organizations. Hopefully, the riding’s Liberal candidate, David Morris wins.

Annamie should’ve run somewhere else

Which Canadian gay celebrities are well hung? John Moore?

David Common is 8”

David Common made a joke about shrinkage and hasn’t hosted Power and Politics since. I thought it was hot

David Morris used to Chair the 519. He’s a good guy

Did he, R21? I watch all the time. I must have missed it, lol.

I actually find David Cochrane hot tbh. I don't usually like bald guys, but I find him sexy.

Andrew Nichols has the face of an alcoholic

Years ago I used to work with Toronto radio host, Jay “Mad Dog” Michaels. He was a total asshole to his former on air partner, Billie.

Liza Fromer is allegedly a major league cunt who got herself blacklisted from ever appearing on TV again.

David Thurton is hot.

Legal action underway related to Greens’ internal turmoil, Annamie Paul

I know he’s in France at present, but is William White fever sweeping your country? Could he be potentially as big as Michael J, or is he more a Cory M?

Link to the Green Party lawsuit:

Whoops. This link should work.

Green Party lawsuit:

I want a big cock up my ass

I wonder if Annamie has ever given a blow job? Does she like her tits played with?

O’Toole gave supporters and other party insiders taxpayer-funded contracts

By David Akin

July 22

Individuals and entities connected with O'Toole's leadership campaign won $237,00 worth of taxpayer-funded contracts from O'Toole's office during his first six months in office.

I don't care that O'Toole hired his buddies, all politicians, including Trudeau do this. The problem is his hypocrisy. I hear that the knives are out for him already and that his own party hates him.

Still strange to me that after all these years we have no one with any hookup stories about Dan Levy. He’s almost 40 - there should be some Canadian DLers who know something. Unless he’s an incel - wtf is this lack of any gossip?

Any Seamus O Reagan stories?

R38, a few years ago a DLer posted that he once gave Seamus a blowjob.

Damn no more gossip huh?

Damn no more gossip eh?

While I understand the significance of Mary Simon's appointment...she is not a good public speaker. I guess as long as she doesn't attack the staff at Rideau Hall, she's an improvement over the previous GG.

Test

Canadian Actor - Stephen Huszar. Any gossip?

Any gossip on designer Brian McCourt?

Where’s Julie Payette hiding?

As part of her severance, Julie Payette receives a budget to maintain an office with staff. What is she doing?

I’d really like to hear stories of how many of you have had horny hockey players.

Are Canadian men well hung?

What about Francois Arnaud

Have Dany Fortin and Justin made up yet?

Ant rumors on hot daddy Whit Fraser

Not gossip, but Ford vowed today that students will return to schools in the fall. He even joked that he’ll drive them if he has to. I thought that was kind of a bold statement to make with school more than a month away. Things could change drastically between now and then.

Oh, R48, how I wish I had horny hockey player stories of my own to tell. Hockey players have the best butts and thighs.

Ford's a fucking moron. Probably the stupidest premier in all of Canada. How the fuck did Ontario vote for that clown?

Did anyone ever discover Brent Carver's cause of death?

DL fave Henry Cavill's brother, Charlie lives in Alberta and he is delish

Stephen Leece seems closeted to me

Sam Oosterhoff is a cutie. Pity he’s in Doug Ford’s party.

Calm down, folks. Unlike the NDP, we trust the people to make their own choices for their kids.

The best thing for us all, Doug @ R60, would for you to OD like your brother. You look like a walking heart attack so it wouldn't take much.

R61 My friend, we’re listening to the advice of the science table and the Chief Medical Officer. They don’t believe in vaccine passports for our kids. It’s time for the teachers’ unions and the official opposition (including the minivan party) to stop playing politics.

R53– So Dougie is quitting his job to take another one he’s under qualified for

Doug is still raising millions in fundraising though.

Doug, have you learned how to pronounce Covid yet? It's only been 18 months.

R65 My friend, I’m listening to the science.

Doug, you're not my friend. Can you say Covid yet? It's a simple question, Dougie boy.

R58 Leece is not closeted, he's gay but he not vocal about it (likely due to his leadership aspirations) it's not an open secret. He has been involved in the small gay wing of the PC party, and has also attended pride events and abstained from a vote granting university status to Canada Christian College. There are a ton of rumours about his time at Western. One guy has spoken on record about allegedly being sexually assaulted by Leece. There are also rumours that the CBC have heard from other men but haven't reported it because it's really a he said/he said.

R59 Major rumours about Oosterhoff too. On Twitter some men have come forward claiming having being hit on by Oosterhooff...there is one story from a guy who alleges that Oosterhoff attempted to grab his dick in the men's room in the Indigo and Yonge/Eg in Toronto.

Are the Canadian actors celibate? These threads always go into politics.

Or are Canadians too polite to fuck someone famous and give us details?

[quote] Or are Canadians too polite to fuck someone famous and give us details?

We're just having Nunavut, R69!

R67 My friend, Dr. Williams told me to pronounce it that way.

R70 How do you feel about Mary Simon, Nunavut Troll?

What about former hottie, Actor Nicholas Lea? Never married?

I used to fuck the CEO of one of Canada’s largest companies. He was into scat and hardcore BDSM,

Who, R74?

R75 I can’t say. He could do a lot of damage to me professionally if this was traced back

Sergio Di Zio lives in my neighbourhood. I see him walking in the morning. Very good-looking guy.

Connor Jessup Grindr sightings?

[quote]What about Francois Arnaud

He came out as bisexual last year. He was living with a guy during COVID. Not sure if they are still together.

Dan Levy's mother/Eugene's wife seems like a real piece of work. I wonder if Eugene Levy ever cheated on her when he was off working.

R68 Yup, Stephen Leece being gay is pretty much an open secret. There was rumour he was dating a Bay Street high roller but I can't remember the name.

Doug, @ R66, for the last time, I'm not your friend. What are your plans for schools in the fall?

Not buying that Leece is gay, sorry.

Folks, we’re gonna have the best reopening plan for schools in the fall. We have the best Minster of Education and Chief Medical Officer in Canada working round the clock to get kids back in class. This September I’ll drive and teach em myself if I have to. The teachers’ unions and their friends in the opposition need to stop fear mongering. I won’t support a vaccine passport.

Doug, why won't you support a vaccine passport or record of immunization against Covid? Manitoba and Quebec have them and things are going well in those provinces. Aren't Brian and François your buds? Talk to them.

Sasquatch is a very aggressive verbal bottom

Is Leece well hung? Top? Bottom?

Any gossip on any of the Canadian Olympians (past or present, either sex)?

anything on Jacob Tierney?

Thoughts on childcare? Would’ve preferred pharmacare

Re: Francois Arnaud -

[quote]He came out as bisexual last year. He was living with a guy during COVID. Not sure if they are still together.

The guy in question is fellow Quebecois actor Théodore Pellerin who is part of the main cast of "On Becoming a God in Central Florida." Théo is nearly 12 years his junior, and Connor Jessup and Xavier Dolan also follow him on Instagram.

As of 2 days ago they were still liking and commenting each other's posts, so they're probably still together.

that's hot re: Arnaud and Pellerin....... Arnaud is a top?

Thanks 91!

Cute

Go to 1:11 mark to see Arnaud. He’s so hot.

My friends, I don’t give a hoot what you stick your dicks into. All I care about is making life easier for the people with low taxes, less government and no labour standards

I hate that I am attracted to Stephen Leece and want to fuck him. I really hate myself for that.

R96 You want to pound his hole?

Any gossip on a deliciously bearish Canadian actor Ty Olsson?

Yes, r97. And slap his ass.

The Canadian actors in this show are all pretty hot. S2 seemed to set up for S3 but it never happened.

R96 He does have a nice ass, I'll give him that.

[quote] Stephen Leece

He has a disturbing forehead mole.

Sometimes it almost seems like the ndp in ontario is fully in cahoots with the pc party, based on their utter political ineptitude slash inability to get their message across, and -most importantly-pick a leader who can actually win! Andrea has proven time and again for YEARS to be an unelectable vegetable lasagna candidate! Why on earth won’t they hire proper political consultants who can vet viable leaders!?

R103, what do you think of Steven Del Duca and the Ontario Liberals? Will they have a better chance of beating Ford next year?

Dougie, you looked like you were about to keel over at yesterday's presser in Northwestern Ont. Are you okay?

R194 He was a terrible choice for party leader. Most people in Ontario don't know his name. If the Liberals win, it's simply to get Ford out.

R106 I also love how they gave a failed candidate, Kate Graham complete control of crafting their platform,

R106 None of the heavy hitters wanted the job (Sandra Pupatello)

[quote]Any gossip on a deliciously bearish Canadian actor Ty Olsson?

All I know is he's been banned from several conventions in North America due to being a literally raging alcoholic and publicly making out with underage girls.

That's a shame, R109. He's super fuckable.

Yeah he's been quietly written off a few shows too. Really fumbled the bag, as the kids like to say.

Is anyone else depressed by the economy? I’ve been looking for work since January after leaving an abusive work situation

Julie Payette getting her Order of Canada revoked

Yay! I’m so happy, R113.

I fucked Andrew Thomson who appears on CBC Power and Politics. He’s got a huge cock

No she isn't, R113. Some welder from BC filed a complaint and they're investigating.

R113 Payette's Order of Canada is not being revoked. As R116 sates, a member of the public filed a request to have her membership within the order reviewed. It's unlikely it will be taken away, unless she's charged with a crime or something. She may have been a boss from hell, but she was an accomplished astronaut and I don't think being a bitch is enough grounds to be removed.

So Alberta is going to kill us all? Build a fucking wall around that fucking province and the idiot deplorables that voted for Kenney.

Interesting Twitter thread.

R118 Alberta is trash outside Edmonton which almost exclusively votes NDP, but the rest of the province is TRASH.

R120, how do you figure Edmonton votes NDP? All their MPs are cons aside from one so there's clearly a lot of conservative trash there too. I agree it's more progressive than the rest of the province, but that's not saying much.

R108, Sandra Pupatello is running federally again for Trudeau's Liberals in Windsor.

Interesting no one cares to mention the 9/11 like drama I was subject to earlier this week. Some Canadian gossip thread this is.

R121 Federally, yes Alberta tends to vote Conservative but provincially Edmonton votes NDP, it's very bizarre.

R123 Dan Levy was talked about at length in the previous two gossip thread. I guess he's still the same old bitchy queen he was (allegedly) when we was working for MTV Canada.

R122 She should run in Toronto. Windsor is now solidly orange

R126, the Liberals won Windsor-Tecumseh in 2019, so the NDP actually lost one of their Windsor seats.

But you're right that it may be challenging for Pupatello to win Windsor West against long-time NDP MP Brian Masse.

[quote]Why on earth won’t they hire proper political consultants who can vet viable leaders!?

Two reasons... the leadership process is always grassroots driven, so only party loyalists, kooks, and other no hopers select the leader. Purity tends to come into it, for the right and the left. Arguably, for example, Peter MacKay would have been a (marginally I guess) better choice for the federal Conservatives but he they got Erin the Toole instead. What's 'er face Elliott would have been a better (more mainstream) choice for the provincial Conservatives in Ontario, but they got Doug. (Though I think Elliott proved herself close to useless in the pandemic.)

Second reason, the lefties are generally on a mission. They're less in it for themselves and more for their view how society should be structured. So they are less prone to corruption but more prone to very impractical and very dogmatic. And they really struggle with tone. They talk down to the majority, they scold, they wag their fingers. They would far rather be right (correct) than be in power so they struggle to moderate their views to reflect an electorate and get enough votes to win. That's shown increasingly at the federal level. Add up the Liberals and the NDP and you get a majority, but within the ranks the NDP can't draw enough Liberal support to prevail.

It's also why a union of the parties, in my view, would fail (and help the Conservatives, which would be awful.) The factions within the ranks will spend all their time on internal fights and undercut their credibility. The media will eat it up and report it and the harmful shitshow will make the Conservatives look good in comparison. In the end I don't think Canadians want particularly grand visions. They want competence and sensible compassion. That's why federally the more centrist Liberal party has won so many elections and is still called the natural governing party. Personally, when I vote, I vote Liberal. It's the safest bet. I'm not voting this election, nor are a number of my friends, because Trudeau's such a dipshit.

R128, a good overall analysis of Canadian political parties. Trudeau is flawed, but he's still the best alternative to keep the Conservatives out.

Yes, R129. I suspect they will win. No idea if it's a majority or not. Doubt it. Which will force him to depart sooner rather than later. Maybe that would be the best outcome for us. Liberals back, the great poet with much more time for pilates and pontificating. Freeland or Carney would be great alternatives. It's time for a smart woman, so I have a slight preference for Freeland. I will vote Liberal if there seems risk but my MP (Liberal, in Toronto) is safe, so I can with hold my vote in protest of that pompous ass... he's like a woke set of bagpipes to me, which I could live with, if I thought he was up to the job, but I don't. Between his WE values and his first thought of faculty lounge optics, I don't think he's up to the job. There's better choices.

Trudeau will win, not out of any great love for him but because most Canadians see the alternatives as worse.

It's a well kept secret but in Canada summers are in winter and winters are in summer. Right now in Ottawa, they are ice skating with penguins and drinking hot chocolate and laughing at us.

R132 The first part is true, if you live in Australia.

r133 = dastardly Canadian trying to deceive us.

No. Imposter. No please, thanks, or eh.

Oh .... who was the top?

Has Dan ever topped?

Wow, Paul looks so good.

Dan looks... well fed.

There’s another plate across from Dan that can be seen so I’m guessing there were other people there

Dan got thicc

Not really gossip because it’s true, Corey Monteith was extremely ordinary looking

I thought Dan looked well fed also.

Abacus poll on Accessible Voter Pools shows that the Liberals, NDP & BQ have expanded their voter pools over the past 2 years, whereas the Conservatives & Greens have seen theirs shrink:

Theodore Pellegrin posted about visiting Francois Arnaud while the latter is filming in Vancouver last week. They both posted Instagram stories about going for a hike and a swim in a lake together. Guess that answers anyone's question about whether they're still dating.

they are very cute together.

Yeti makes me wear a ballgag when he pounds me in the permafrost

Careful you don't fall through, Sask... it's melting in places.

Trudeau is expected to ask the governor general to call an election of August 8. Interesting article about why he can and why he wants an election.

Who ya'll going to vote for.

I guess Trudeau is trying to leave office before Angela Merkel

New poll from Abacus:

Liberals ahead by 12 as election speculation heats up

August 5, 2021

Liberals (37%)

Conservatives (25%)

NDP (20%)

Greens (6%)

Doesn't surprise me. The Liberals are the least of the evils. The shambles of the Conservatives and the Greens make them look even better. Good they have a sizeable lead... it is apt to narrow by election day.

3 Liberal MPs announced they are not running for re-election:

Adam Vaughan (Spadina-Fort York)

Karen McCrimmon (Kanata-Carleton)

Will Amos (Pontiac)

Vaughan is a bit of a surprise. McCrimmon is retiring for health reasons. Amos is less of a surprise after his naked Zoom/peeing scandal during the virtual House of Commons session.

I’m guessing Vaughan sees an opportunity at the provincial level

He gave an interview saying it was a lifestyle thing. He'll have plenty of pension pots from his various goes and his wife still feeds off the CBC trough. He's one of the most miserable personalities I've ever encountered in public life. Snide, short tempered, arrogant... the back bench must have been killing his ego and being an MP demanded he press the flesh even so. I think the interview was in The Star yesterday. Anyway, I got the impression he's done with politics.

In what world are articles that run in mainstream newspapers and other media considered 'gossip'?

More key officials depart Green Party amid staffing upheaval as election looms

Aug. 9, 2021

Someone here must know something about François-Philippe Champagne. Any gay rumors?

^ He's going to be on Power and Politics right away ^

R157, yes, there are gay rumours. He is 51 and appears to be unmarried without kids.

Here he is at Montreal Pride 2017:

What is Brian Orser up to these days? Does he still live in Canada?

R160, isn't Brian Orser still coaching at a skating club in Toronto? Last I heard he coached Yuzuru Hanyu and Jason Brown.

There is growing buzz in the Alberta media that Naheed Nenshi is planning on coming out before the end of the year.

What do you think of the announcement by Brian Pallister, the Premier of Manitoba, to call it quits?

I vaguely recall he said something stupid in relation to First Nations. He's old, he's connected, he's probably had enough of the mine field. The politicians all take care of one another... he'll land an ambassadorship or some such thing. It's not a bad retirement plan if you can stomach the rubber chickens and community picnics and seldom actually saying anything. I'd rather stick needles in my eyes.

Election prediction 1: when it is over, another Liberal minority, and Trudeau will be gone by June of next year, announcing departure at Christmas.

Election prediction 2: the call is this Sunday, unless....

Election prediction 3: they panic and decide to wait until next spring. The fourth wave is gathering the steam and the unnecessary election meme isn't far behind. That's harmful to your prospects. If it isn't called within a week, they're not going to go.

New poll says 2/3 of Canadians don't want a federal election right now. It's funny, one thing the Liberals do that's bad is drag their feet. They could have got the border open in both directions in June, according to some reporting, but dragged their feet. Then made the odd decision to open without joint agreement, essentially surrendering negotiating power or at least position. They've been letting election talk percolate for a month, and now it is going boomerang. They were consistently criticized for dithering on aspects under their control during the pandemic: border closure, airpots, inbound flights from hot spots. This lot has an odd sense of timing and there are enough examples of timing issues that it could be effectively messaged as a theme, which won't help them.

R163, he's loaded, he doesn't need to do anything aside from retire to his villa in Costa Rica.

He never appeared to me to be one of those crazy, right-wing premiers and always seemed a lot smarter than the likes of Ford, Moe, Kenney. I've never agreed with his politics, but he seems more of an old school fiscal conservative than anything. Remember how he called those western separatists idiots? His comments about settlers and Indigenous people were out of touch. He's in his late 60s and it's time for him to go, I suppose.

Globe reporting Trudeau to call a vote for September 20th.

Hmmm....we'll be in the middle of a 4th wave by then, R168.

Yeah, I think he's nuts. People seem so emotional. I live in the heart of Toronto... I can't tell you the number of neighbours and friends who would vote Liberal but just can't stand him (which isn't to say they won't vote Liberal but they aren't voting Justin.)

I talked a to consultant friend last night who, despite (and with great reluctance) is doing public consultations in more rural Ontario. He said the volatility and anger there, especially about Torontonians who've left this nightmare of a city and driven up real estate and other prices in the process, is huge.

They are making their calculation on the polls - and obviously nuanced polling that we will never see - but I predict two things: the most volatile election and electorate in a long time and, at the end, another minority. Perhaps the NDP makes enough gains to take the Opposition. But I don't think much changes. Trudeau will have to step down after leading to two minorities in a row.

I think you're 100% right. It'll be another Lib minority.

I just pray there's not some other skeleton in Trudeau's closet that we'll find out about one week before the election.

Me too. I loathe Justin but I don't want a Conservative government. NDP governments always worry me because the leader might be strong but I worry about the experience of the Cabinet. I lived through the Rae years. Great regard for Bob Rae, but the no talents and idealists that came with him... Christ, what a mess. They inadvertently paved with way for the odious Mike Harris Conservatives, who were worse in the opposite way.

Breaking news on CBC right now.

Justin is making a mistake calling an election right now. I think the liberals will win only because most voters (at least in seat rich Ontario) think the alternative is worse. The thing is, he's in a minority government, all he has to do is put forward a bill he knows the opposition won't support and then he can blame them for the election, but by calling one himself, he can't escape is something bad happens e.g. spike in cases.

Yup, he's being stupid. I think he's going to bleed to the NDP.

Confirmed: Trudeau will meet with the Governor General on Sunday and advise her to dissolve Parliament and call an election. Breaking on the CBC right now.

Media is already hammering Tam, Gould, and Anand about the safety of holding an election right now.

I'm with R175. Dumb call. Their sense of timing is catastrophic. Their understanding of how thing changes in COVID time is pathetic. The NDP will profit from this - and the Liberals could suffer from that doubly - the NDP could drain enough votes in a riding to put a Conservative over the top. Toronto will be fascinating to watch this time... will the young run to the NDP... are there enough moderates to hold the Liberal positions?

I am not intending to vote, as protest. They haven't earned my vote and don't deserve it. But, if my MP seems at risk, I will hold my nose and vote Liberal. I may need reconstructive surgery I am holding it so hard.

Panelist on CBC just raised a good point - what if something happens where the government has to make a decision while parliament is suspended? The guy is a conservative strategist, but still, he's not wrong.

The country still has a government. It's just in an election campaign to determine the next parliament, which could result in a change of government.

What the poet does Sunday is ask the Governor General to dissolve the current parliament for an election. If Parliament needed to be summoned again by the Governor General.

The so-called caretaker convention came into effect when the election is called. Under our Westminster system, during an election campaign the government must refrain from making significant decisions related to policy, spending or appointments. The routine business of government goes ahead, managed largely by the public service. In case of a national emergency, a caretaker government can take action, but it's expected to do so in consultation with the opposition parties. Why? Because during an election it is unclear whether a government enjoys the confidence of the House of Commons – the acid test for governance in Canada.

It's actually not a good point. It is a woeful ignorance on behalf of someone purporting to speak with knowledge about government in Canada.

Then again, it's a Conservative, so....

Thanks, R180. I knew there'd be a workaround, but still, seems like a pain in the ass and a risk with the fourth wave on the way.

What doesn't make sense is why Trudeau is doing this, aside from thinking he'll get a majority. The NDP has played ball with him since 2019, so has the Bloc, so what's the point aside from him being greedy and wanting a majority?

I actually hope things stay the same. I like a Liberal minority with the NDP having to pull them a bit left. Otherwise, "Liberal, Tory, same old story."

We're in the fourth wave. The opportunism is why the polling advantage will narrow. Front page of the Star: 2/3 respondents don't want an election.

This shows a disregard that will also revive the old Liberal arrogance canard. I have no idea what he's thinking, except it proves my bias: nice ass, but he lacks the maturity and wisdom to be PM.

He missed the window of opportunity. He should've called the election at the end of June or early July when Canadians were far more optimistic about the summer and fall. It's clear with the delta variant we are headed into another shitty few months and as R183 says, the polls will narrow. I still think he'll win but not convinced it'll be a majority.

I love how Liberal partisans on Twitter are justifying this when they've ripped on some of the provinces that had elections during Covid. Does Trudeau think that the people in BC are going to turn out while the entire area is on fire and multitudes have been displaced? I just get what he's thinking....

According to CBC, Elections Canada has been informed that they will not be able to use schools and community centres as polling locations.

I predict a low voter turnout with the same results we have now - a Liberal minority. If I didn't hate the Cons so much, I'd say Trudeau deserves to be punished and lose.

His arrogance manifests as cluelessness.

R185 If it weren't for the conservatives, no way I'd vote for the Liberals this time around but feel like there is no choice.

R187 Yup the Liberals are counting on people who are voting for them simply because they're not the conservatives to deliver a majority. I think they'll get a minority. Poll showing huge leads pre-election usually mean nothing.

And that's the cycle they keep us in, R187. Remember how Trudeau promised that 2015 would be the last first past the post election? That didn't happen. He did not say, "I'll try," he promised and did not deliver.

I refuse to fall for the Liberals attitude of "you have to vote for us or else scary Conservatives will get in." They have pulled that for years and I voted out of fear for years too. This time, I'm voting with my morals instead of fear, not to help out Justin one more time. I'll be voting Green, and if there is no Green candidate, in my riding, I'll vote NDP. I'm not buying into the conservative boogeyman that the Liberals always try and skate by on, especially since this election is not necessary. My aunt and cousins are sick of it too, and she lives in a currently conservative riding that is showing a tight race between Libs and Cons.

I do not hate Trudeau, I think he's been a "just okay" PM. I hate the rabid online trolls that make up shit about him when there is plenty of legitimate things to criticize him on. Those are the issues that I care about and that's how I'm going to vote. Why do Canadians always settle for mediocrity? "Meh, Justin isn't that great, but he's better than so and so." I'm done with that shit.

Look at it this way, IF, the Liberals lose, then maybe, just maybe, they'd learn a lesson and change. Would suck for now, but might be better for the long run. People have to demand better.

[quote]Why do Canadians always settle for mediocrity?

I don't know if it's a uniquely Canadian thing or a parliamentary system thing but I feel it's usual governments in Canada are voted out, not voted in. It isn't very often people are truly excited by a party, but, rather, punishing the incumbent. Look at Kathleen Wynne... Ontario basically vomited her up when the alternative was Doug Ford.

R190 it's the first past the post system we use to elect governments. The popular vote is also more narrow, but because of the electoral system a party only needs about 35% of the popular vote to get all the power. If we had a more proportional system, we'd likely more often than not have NDP-Liberal coalition governments. This is why Trudeau failed at his promise at electoral reform. If we switched to a more representative system, the Liberals (Nor the conservatives) would ever hold majority power again.

I hate O'Toole, but I don't think he'd be as bad as Harper. Hopefully we don't have to find out. I hate Michelle Rempel too, but she is very pro-gay, so there's that at least. There's always going to be wing-nuts with the Cons, though I suspect some of the lunatic vote has gone to Max. My old Liberal MP used to tell me she loved Max, lol.

R190 in fairness, Ontario almost elected the NDP in 2018 but then both the liberals and PCs started attacking the NDP instead of each other, the NDP ran out of money to seal the deal in the final two weeks.

New ABACUS poll:

Most Canadians won’t be upset if early election called; Liberals lead by 9 over Conservatives

August 12, 2021

Liberals (37%)

Conservatives (28%)

NDP (20%)

Green Party (5%)

R194 Those numbers will narrow as the election goes on. Liberals will win, the question is majority or minority. Also with the Cons sinking, I wonder if the NDP would actually have a shot at opposition.

I know you all want to talk politics and that's fine, but I was responsible for a $50,000 donation to UA Native Studies program.

I agree the Liberals form the government... likely a minority with the NDP having a good shot at opposition.

What struck me reading The Star yesterday was that the Conservative platform could be mistaken for reasonable. That may have the effect of strengthening the NDP showing in ridings where the Liberals would be more likely to win. I also think you'll see a handful of Toronto ridings turn NDP, esp where the condo crowd dominate, and the lower income.

And... strong start.... ;)

R198, some people are questioning that Nanos poll.

But obviously we'll give a lot of different polls from different pollsters over the next month.

give = get

On what basis are "some people" questioning the Nanos poll? Where? Link?

Everybody questions a poll they don't like.

I take that back. Every partisan, hack or crushing fool questions polls they don't like.

The rest of us observe with some degree of interest and move on.

What does EKOS say?

The thread about the election is here

François Arnaud posted photos of the cast of his new show hanging out on the water in the Vancouver area today, including Gugu Mbatha-Raw and DL fave Oliver Jackson-Cohen. His bf Théo Pellegrin already liked the post.

Arnaud and Pellegrin are a really cute pair. Arnaud is dreamy.

Charles Adler got fired! Finally. One less conservative on air. Shane Hewitt is next, hopefully.

Justin is a terrible politician. I despise him. I despise the Conservatives more, though.

If the Liberals lose this, they deserve it.

Any gossip about what's going on at CP24? In the last two weeks both Gurdeep Ahluwalia and Pooja Handa have suddenly announced their departure from the Breakfast show. Gurdeep annouced today it was his last day and Pooja did the same thing two weeks ago. Very odd that two hosts who have been on the show for years should suddenly leave with no notice or announce what they are doing next.

r209 on Twitter Gurdeep says it was his own choice, but I'm sure that's to make him look professional and look like a good prospect to new employers. Something is obviously up, even people in his Twitter comments are not buying it.

Anyone read Marie Henein's book?

Did anyone see Jean Chretien on the political shows today? He doesn't seem impressed with Trudeau Jr.

R212, Chretien seems annoyed that Justin Trudeau and his team haven't reached out to him and the party elders more. But Chretien left out the fact that he and Martin damaged the Liberal Party with scandals and a civil war. It was smart of Trudeau to distance himself from the previous regime.

Oh boy..............

Look at this Canadian duo getting into trouble….

Trudeau will announce his new cabinet today:

This article from CTV has a preview of a few of the changes to expect:

- Marc Garneau is expected to be dropped from the new cabinet.

- Environment Minister Jonathan Wilkinson is expected to be moved to Natural Resources.

- Heritage Minister Steven Guilbeault is expected to move to Environment.

- Defence Minister Harjit Sajjan is also expected to be moved, although he will remain in cabinet.

- Randy Boissonnault (openly-gay) , as one of only two Liberals elected in Alberta, is expected to be in cabinet.

Of course he's dropping Garneau, a guy who's been solid and not a fuck up. JFC.

JFC, they didn't even tell Garneau ahead of time that he'd be losing his spot in cabinet. Fucking disgraceful.

Here we go again.

Erin O'Toole kicks out Senator Denise Batters from the Conservative Caucus for questioning his leadership:

The Conservatives are imploding!!

Did anyone watch "The Fifth Estate" last night? Pretty damning exposé on the WE organization.

Ontario Health minister and deputy premier Christine Elliott will not seek re-election:

Has anyone noticed how hot David Common is looking these days?

Well, this is a switch that’s been a long time coming.

Just now R225? So much for their superior free health care system.

When did the US lift their ban, R226?

R104 apart from political flacks literally noone knows who del duca is. Like they don’t recognize his name. They dont even know Andrea horwath’s name and she’s tried to win for years and years. Embarassing really.

So what's up with Justin and Sophie? Sophie no longer goes with him to public events. Even the current visit of Prince Charles, Sophie is MIA while Justin has brought his kids with him instead.

R228 polls out today have Ontario liberals and Ford's PC within 4 points. Liberals are the only party with forward momentum. If the PCs drop below 32% in popular vote, they have no path to government. Where as the Libs can win in a minority with as little as 31%.

R216. why are cabinet ministers shuffled from ministry to ministry like that?

OMG! They killed Kenney! Well, his political career, anyway.

R232, it's hard to feel sorry for Jason Kenney. He's been a self-loathing closet case for years.

I doubt anything will kill Kenny's career. He's another one of those types that will never go away.

Interesting. Does anyone think he'll win?

JFC - Trudeau's in trouble again, this time over the mass shooting/gun control thing. Media isn't letting this one go.

I forgot to add the whole passport and airport backlog too.

Patrick Brown disqualified from Conservative leadership race

CBC News

Jul 05, 2022 11:27 PM ET

With two months to go before the Conservative Party chooses its next leader, Patrick Brown has been ejected from the race over allegations he broke financing rules.

Brown's campaign quickly fired back, saying in a statement early Wednesday that his disqualification is unfounded and an attempt to ensure his rival Pierre Poilievre wins the race. It added it would consult its legal team.

The bombshell news came in a statement released late Tuesday night by the party's leadership election organizing committee, which said Brown was being disqualified from the race after "serious allegations of wrongdoing" related to financing rules.

"We regret having to take these steps but we have an obligation to ensure that both our party's rules and federal law are respected by all candidates and campaign teams," said the statement from Ian Brodie, head of the Conservative Party's Leadership Election Organizing Committee, which oversees the race.

Those involved did their best to be fair to Brown and his campaign, Brodie said, giving them time to substantively refute the allegations.

"None of these problems has any impact on the integrity of the vote itself," he said, adding the party will share the information it has with Elections Canada.

[Rest of the article at the link]:

Set up by PP ^^

Brow hired the notorious Marie Henein to get the decision reversed!

Now he's dropped out, R240.

I don't think I can even find the words to express how much I detest PP. He is bad, bad, bad news.

So Theo Fleury is completely off his rocker, we all know that. Did anyone see his post about how Canadians are living through the holocaust? JFC.....

Fleury is such a lunatic that I'm starting to doubt his whole backstory. Even if it is true, he can't say outrageous things and then blame his past on his insane statements. All Twitter does when he says crazy things is, "oh, poor Theo, he needs help." I don't get why he's always getting a pass for the shit he says and does.

Is Jason Kenney gay or has he been far too busy to find a wife?

[quote]Remember how he called those western separatists idiots?

Brian Pallister also called antivaxxers idiots, unlike certain conservative politicians who said everyone's point of view should be respected.

Pallister is an old-fashioned Progressive Conservative, R245. He loves money and tax cuts, but he's not a science denying moron who tried to appeal to rubes. People with money like him, not hillbillies. I don't think he'd like Pierre Poilievre - remember how he made that dramatic plea for families to limit their gatherings at Christmas?? PP would hate that.

True R246. Poilievre has a bit of that "freedom of choice trumps all other considerations" ideology that many blue collar conservatives like. I'm glad Pallister spoke his mind about antivaxxers and didn't play politics, trying to appeal to everyone.

Will Glen Murray be re-elected mayor of Winnipeg? I doubt it. He's likable but he's not the kind of really clever, skilled politician who impresses people. His luster has worn off. People will want someone knew.

It's too bad Pallister isn't running for leader of the Conservatives. I don't like his politics, but he is respectable unlike most other Conservatives. Then again, he's actually a Progressive Conservative, not GOP of the North.

I have a lot of friends and family in Winnipeg and none of them think he'll win, R248. I didn't know this, but he left mid-term last time. Also, a lot of people seem to think that he's trying again for mayor because his political career died in Ontario and lost his bud to become leader of the Greens.

Yeah, the kind of conservatives that like Pallister are rich ones, R247, totally different type of person than PP supporters who hate Pallister because of all the covid measures he put in. Meanwhile, rich old ladies love BP because they felt he was protecting them.

True, R250. He left Winnipeg for Ontario to move on to bigger and better things. He didn't go as far politically as he had hoped, so now he's back in Winnipeg, trying to get his old job back.

Yeah, I think the city might hold that against him, R252. I like Glenn, but yeah, he's just sort of trying to score any political career at this point. Who knows though, he may win. I don't know anything about the other candidates or what the people think of them.

I wonder what Glen Murray will do if her loses.

Why is Michael Serapio leaving CBC?

R255, did he announce that today? I watched some of his coverage of the Pope's visit to Canada.

He did, R256.

A young Glen Murray, circa 1992.

You know the line: Aging is a bitch.

A more recent photo of Mr. Murray.

Stephen Harper has intervened in the Conservative leadership race by endorsing Pierre Poilievre:

Good heavens. I couldn't pay attention to what Stephen Harper was saying because I was staring at the giant wart near the corner of his mouth.

What do you know? It looks like people prefer a familiar face if Glen Murray is in front. I suppose many people don't think he did that bad of a job as mayor that they're willing to give him another chance.

Seems like Winnipeg wants another progressive mayor. Bowman was conservative by party only according to most. I think Murray was fairly popular from what I've heard, R263.

And meanwhile, Elizabeth May is preparing to run for leader of the Green Party again:

Damn troll 5884, Canadians are supposed to be sweet people. What did you do to get called out so harshly?

If Connor Jessup maintains his figure he's going to be a real knockout in about 5 years or so, once he loses all his baby fat and starts developing a man's body.

I guess May misses the MP salary, R265.

Scary attack.

Anyone here know Mike G?? Is he....losing it a little bit??

Mike G???

Canadian Twitter influencer, R271. He's recently posted that the Anne Heche car crash video is fake.

Wow. Way to treat a dedicated, award winning employee.

R273 Wow this is very shocking! Wasn't CTV News the most watched news broadcast in Canada?! Anyone got some tea on this?

Omar Sachedian has named Lisa LaFlamme's replacement. And he just tweeted this and is getting TROLLED. Bell's business move seems to be the old fire the older woman for the younger male anchor.

HOLY SHIT...CTV fired Lisa Laflamme!!!!! WTF?! Unless we find out she was bullying and physically assaulting staff or something, this was a FUCKING STUPID move.

What's happened to Charles Adler?

R276 He retired. Basically a few years ago Alder declared he was no longer a conservative and said he felt the Conservative Party has become a fringe far right wing group. Afterwards, the ratings to his radio show dropped and apparently he was getting death threats and basically at 67 he just decided to take his pension and retire.

I didn’t see this posted (if it was, I'll go die in a grease fire), but Serapio’s taking over as the English anchor for CPAC, R255. I imagine it's at least for the stability - his predecessor was there for 21 years.

Someone got in Freeland's face today. Alberta, of course.

Connor Jessup is taking raw load after raw load. But, that's nothing new.

In August, a hotel employee noticed something amiss with the framed original print of Winston Churchill's "Roaring Lion" portrait that was on public display since 1998 (photographer Karsh who had his studio and lived at the Fairmont Chateau Laurier for decades donated the famous print to the hotel). Turns out the portrait is a fake in a similar but slightly smaller frame, and based on tourist photos, the swap occured around eight months earlier.

I’m not sure this is really needed with all of the other problems in society right now. Thoughts?

r274, r275 of course, everything now has to be politicized. It's a common business tactic to fire or "not renew the contract" of long time employees who will be maxing out pay scales, and/or asking for big raises or incentives. Bell Media (and all media, really) has done that to other media personalities throughout its network, including women. [side note: this is also SOP amongst the lower middle/working classes in Ontario, and has been for decades. Funny how this topic is only being discussed now in a UMC, 'intersectional' context, i.e. gender, age.]

Is her boss a misogynist dick? Maybe, maybe not. Did it have anything to do with her dismissal? Again-maybe, maybe not. It probably had more to do with a power struggle. She had no problem with this system for the what 30+yrs of her broadcast career. That includes not being able to unilaterally change your appearance. Like it or not, that matters to ratings and that's well known. I can think of two other white, male personalities who were subject to this. The idea that she's being "classy" about this is just bullshit--she's letting others fight her battles, because she's hedging her bets. She also knows that the entire system is rotten and that she was a part of it for decades. It wouldn't be good for her future career to be in a twitter exchange with someone who points that out.

In fairness, I hate Lisa LaFlamme as an anchor and her phony, patronizing comments at the end of news segments, but I still think the above is fair comment.

You know, I kind of can't stand Crystia Freeland. She didn't deserve to be accosted like that, and the guy is trash, but I'd have been okay if a climate activist would have yelled at her.

Sexy Francois Arnaud and probable new BF Marc Ben David taking semi-naked pictures of him in recent Instagram pics

My sister went to the University of Toronto when Atom Egoyan taught in the Cinema Studies program there. She said he was really nice and a great instructor.

That's all I got.

Justin Trudeau will stick around as leader for the next election:

Sep 7 2022

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau told his federal Liberal cabinet Wednesday that he is staying on to fight in the next election, the Star has learned.

Trudeau addressed speculation about his political future behind closed doors at a cabinet retreat in Vancouver, according to several sources with knowledge of the discussion.

Oh no, R287. I think that's a mistake.

r287 big mistake. The Nova Scotia inquiry didn't do him any favours, nor I imagine will the outcome of the Emergencies Act hearings. The latter is more serious because of the potential human rights violations involved.

R288/R289, it's risky for Trudeau to run for a 4th term, but I would never count him out. Chrystia Freeland doesn't seem ready to take over as leader, and there's no guarantee that any of the other Liberal contenders could do better than Trudeau. It's possible Trudeau can win another Minority Government against Poilievre if his policies come across as too conservative.

Anyone here watching our own coronation tonight?

Any good gossip about your horny Canadian hockey players? Boys will be boys you know and sometimes with boys.

🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

Looks like our new couple Francois Arnaud and Marc Ben David went to a Lesbian wedding together, very sweet

👀

I actually don't believe any of the allegations against Murray.

The timing is certainly odd, R295 - four years later?

It's a hit job, R296.

Charles Adler sure has changed! He's putting the Cons on blast daily!! 🤣

Ruh roh!!

Thanks for the update, R300.

Oops. CTV fucked up. Glenn didn't win.

A gay politican was apparently elected in Saskatchewan, representing NDP.

R286... he lives on my street. Odd guy. Never speaks to anybody.

R303. the new gay MLA for Saskatchewan is kind of cute.

Elizabeth May was elected Green Party leader again today.

Her new leadership partner Jonathan Pedneault is kind of cute.

I wonder what Glen Murray will do now.

Omg! John Tory!!

For those unfamiliar: Toronto mayor John Tory resigned last Friday for having an affair with a younger staffer. All quite odd considering the previous mayor smoked crack in public unapologetically. . .

[quote]Maybe it's time to recognize Canada's indigenous population.

We've been doing that for decades now. You must be from a larger city or from outside of Canada.

It is odd, r309. Almost like he's got something bigger to hide and wants to get the jump on resigning before it comes to the fore.

It's also odd that there's robocalls currently happening asking constituents if they want JT to resign or not. Nobody is taking ownership of those but one would assume it's someone in his camp.

Look, he's no Rob Ford, but hes still a greasy, incompetent mother fucker. He's turned TO into a violent, homeless encampment. I hate his fucking guts bc he's an incompetent, not bc he fucked a staffer.

Totally agreed r311. His tenure has seen the city decline a lot, even before Covid. His refusal to raise property taxes in his nimby buddies has meant that all city services have suffered. Let alone the homeless issue and the recent ttc violence.

As I mentioned on the main John Tory thread, back in 1993 when he was campaign director for the now defunct federal Progressive Conservative Party, he allowed the attack ad on Jéan Chrétien's facial disability to be launched. It finished off the Federal Progressive Conservative Party and helped Jéan Chrétien win an even bigger Majority Government.

I saw that r313, very interesting. I didn't know that and it seems to track with my perception of his character. Or lack thereof.

Thanks r313, I hadn't been able to find that main Tory thread. I was 12 in '93 (MARY!) and didn't remember that ad, but it all makes a lot of sense. What a racket this city really is, EH?

Here it is, R316.

Are the rednecks in Alberta going to elect that wingnut tonight?

Supreme Court of Canada Justice Russell Brown, who was appointed by Conservative Prime Minister Stephen Harper, has resigned.

He resigned in order to avoid a probe of his misconduct by the Canadian Judicial Council. Brown had been accused of sexually harassing women in Arizona while under the influence of alcohol.

WTF Toronto? Chow is going to lose??

Toronto has elected its first female, immigrant, ethnic minority mayor

Does anyone have stories about David Common?

R320 & R321, yeah, Olivia Chow's win was closer than expected, but she finally did it. Despite the best efforts of the right-wing to stop her, she prevailed.

Toronto almost has its first lesbian mayor in Bailo and lesbian black mayor in Hunter

Green Party Leader Elizabeth May hospitalized for 'overwork, fatigue and stress,' husband says

Jul 10, 2023

Green Party Leader Elizabeth May says she actually had a stroke:

Has anyone here seen the latest polls?

MARY!!!!

The rumours were true! The real question here is the timing of this. For a while now the rumour was that Sophie and Justin would not announce their separation until after he left office. So either it has to do with the apparent fact Justin seems to want to run for another term or some other news (e.g. an affair) is about to break.

Have you guys been watching the news??

Holy, Trudeau and the Liberals are in trouble.

I just can't with PP and his gang of cons.

MARY!!

R329, unfortunately voters often want to make a change in government after 8 years of one party/leader in power. That is benefiting PP at the moment.

I would never count out Trudeau, but the odds favor the Cons in the next election based on the polls right now.

"Elizabeth May said part of the problem is she and her husband don’t have a family doctor. 'I haven’t had a health check up in years.'"

I know there is a dire shortage of family doctors throughout B.C., but surely she could find one in Ottawa and get an annual check up.

Manitoba NDP defeats incumbent Conservative government and elects 1st First Nations Premier:

Great news, R332!!

RCMP opens investigation into Doug Ford's plan to use Greenbelt land for development:

We break the MOLD

R334 LOCK HIM UP!!

Quint, Quint, Quint.

Does anyone know what all this buzz about Buffy St. Marie is about?

R338 Apparently a documentary on CBC's Fifth Estate is about air that will call into question her First Nations heritage. This follows her sudden, and highly unexpected, retirement announcement back in August.

Looks like Buffy might be Italian and not Indigenous at all.

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Brian Mulroney is dead to me.

Harlot!

The world owes Brian Mulroney a lot - he got the ball rolling on getting rid of apartheid and led the cause against acid rain.

Brian Mulroney was a stupid ass and deadweight. Good riddance.

R344 is correct that Mulroney was strong on the issue of fighting apartheid -- he and Margaret Thatcher were at odds over that. She was reluctant to take a strong position against it. And for a Conservative he was ahead of his time on the environment.

But his overall policies resulted in the destruction of the old Progressive Conservative party in 1993 and led to the rise of the more right-wing Reform Party and today's Republican-lite Conservative Party.

r345, thank you for your studied response and presentation of verified supporting documentation.

Let me guess, you're a mid-level aging and unionized civil servant who basically fucks the dog on any given work day.

What exactly did he "do" to fight apartheid. I think you are exaggerating this peabrain probably never gave it ten minutes' thought

Are you dense, R348?

For the benefit of R348, although learning something doesn't look likely.