Phylicia Rashad Just Ruined Her Career

“Oh no she di’int!”

Cancelled in 3... 2...

What miscarriage?

Bye, Phylicia!!!

I mean - what wrong has been corrected? He's still in jail, right?

Oh GURL....

Rashad is highly esteemed in the New York theatre community. Or WAS...

She turned off her Twitter replies, the coward!

He'll be released today, r5.

The prosecutor fucked up, yes. But, he's still guilty. Rashad should shut her mouth. But she done did stepped in it. Fool.

How long until she's dropped from this movie?

Condolences on the passing of Phylicia's career.

How are the students at Howard supposed to feel about this?

"Well, our Dean doesn't give a shit about rape victims, I guess."

The Republican idiots whining about "cancel culture" are the ones trying to cancel "Critical Race Theory", democracy, and anything else they don't like

I knew this cunt was on that fucker's side.

She could have just kept her mouth shut - but no. We have to broadcast every thought bubble to the world.

Fuck her.

One thing "The Handmaid's Tale" gets right is that when it comes to rape denial and blaming the victim women are the WORST.

I used to like her but this is too much. It was one thing for Phylicia to act dumb about the situation and be protective of Cosby's legacy. But rooting for Cosby on Twitter after knowing what crimes he committed is stepping out of line. She really doesn't give a fuck about the women he violated. It's a shame because Claire Huxtable was viewed as a black feminist icon for decades.

Another male-identified woman who always takes a mans side no matter what.

I never liked her high and mighty bitchy attitude anyway.

Mama...STFU!!!

Phylicia Rashad ain’t nothing but an -

OLD SETTLER

Countdown to Phylicia claiming she was hacked ...

It takes a LOT to cancel a black woman celebrity. I can only think of Whoopi (for the “rape-rape” comment) and Mo’Nique (for not shaving her legs).

R17: I was too young to watch the Cosby Show and know what the hell was going on, but as an adult now, the clips I've seen show it to be boring and, more often than not, her character was just a constant self-righteous bitch to her kids. I never understood why that show was popular or either of their characters for that matter.

She was probably pushing to get "Cosby Show' residuals amped up again.

Well that opens up a slot for the guest star in a drama Emmy.

I always thought of Clare Huxtable as the black Julia Sugarbaker. Haughty and prone to holier-than-thou lectures.

I usually don't wish rape on anyone, but...

He admitted to getting 'luudes illegally for the express purpose of giving them to women so he could have sex with them. She is at the very least saying that she thinks that's perfectly okay.

She's putting Howard U in a terrible position.

I don't know why or who's doing it, but it's the legacy. And it's a legacy that is so important to the culture

I wonder if the black community will welcome him back with open arms after he spent decades saying "I'm better than you all because I don't do hood-speak"?

A lot of people have been looking back on the show as adults and thinking the same thing, r23. I remember being old enough by the time the show was into its third or fourth season that I could recognize Claire was truly awful to the point of being abusive to Vanessa.

Quite frankly she always seemed more likely to know the truth then that numbskull brain dead real wife of his.

I'm thinking that Cosby's real wife Camille better better any possibly boy-toy (or traces of him) out of their home pronto, since Cos is probably out today. Any indication there be a re-trial?

better "get"

Rachel True mentioned on Alec Mapa's podcast that there was basically a line of women outside Bill Cosby's dressing room on "The Cosby Show." It's unsurprising that Rashad thinks he couldn't be an abuser. But rape is about power and plenty of people don't seem to truly understand that.

Am I still cancelled ? not anymore right ? not after THAT ?

She'll be fine.

Is Weinstein next? Will Woody and Soon-Yi renew their marriage vows? Is Matt Lauer headed back to NBC?

She'd made her gross opinion clear previously

[Quote] Who can reply? People @PhyliciaRashad follows or mentioned can reply.

Yellow move. Bye, Phylicia!

R4 should've been R1 🤣

[quote] Claire was truly awful to the point of being abusive to Vanessa.

Cliff was also a harsh on Theo too. It does seem to scream colorism to me since Theo and Vanessa are the dark-skinned kids. Denise was a moron but got forgiven so many times and Sondra was stuck-up just like Claire but it was never an issue. Rudy was just a cute kid, so got a pass for being bratty. But Olivia was way more spoiled and indulged than Rudy ever was. A Different World was far less colorist and Whitley got called out a few times for being a stuck-up light-skinned girl.

Do black women get cancelled? I thought they were mostly exempt

Actually, my daddy is the BEST

That's because you're an idiot who thinks it's race-based, R44

Very true r43, in the early episodes Cliff was mean to Theo. That was based on the stand-up that Cosby had done in the 1970s where he had a lot of jokes about his son being a screw-up. As the show went on, Theo was turned into the golden boy overcoming difficulties and Vanessa became the family punching bag.

HEY ,I'm innocent too

She certainly has balls. She spoke the courage of her own convictions whether you agree with her or not. Takes balls in this day & age to do that.

I don't have to agree with what she said, but damn she is brave to do so on a public forum. Its pretty amazing to face cancel culture to say what you believe in when you know you will get slagged off, mightily.

R16, no, they're not. There are more men than women defending him

r49 - it's not balls - it's an overinflated ego, trying to save the role she was most known for instead of being the side-kick for a rapist.

Remember that Cosby also tried to ruin Lisa Bonet's career.

R49, she's blocking replies so that she can't see the people criticizing her. That's cowardly, not brave

Fresh Prince was a better portrayal of a new money black family, it aged better too and the social commentary is still sharp. The Cosby Show was a bit too wholesome and idealistic. It wasn't completely unrealistic because there are plenty of upper middle class black families like them in the Northeast.

Some naive people on here who think she will be cancelled. She’s black… it’s not happening people

Theres an episode where Cliff and Claire are interrogating Vanessa's boyfriend Jeremy and Vanessa cried for him from upstairs because she is grounded. Claire storms upstairs and the inference is clearly that Vanessa is going to get a severe beat down.

People like Phylicia Rashad, Denzel Washington, Will Smith, Morgan Freeman, Don Lemon, Vanessa Williams and Whoopi Goldberg are "pull yourself by your bootstraps" type of black folk. Very condescending. They don't like to hear about victims and think that everyone can save their type of luck and success. They turn their noses down on less fortunate black people and they rarely speak about racism in the industry. Phylicia chooses supporting Cosby over other women.

*have

I don't know what her previous stance has been on Cosby, but this tweet in isolation isn't horrible. The court was right to vacate his conviction because his 5th amendment rights were very clearly violated. He's lower than pond-scum, but that can't be an excuse to turn a blind eye to his constitutional rights being violated.

Why Phylicia… Why!!!

holy shit, girl

If she'd said something about his Constitutional rights, that would have been one thing. Instead, she said this reversed a miscarriage of justice. That's a whole other matter.

You should read some of the reactions to this on Lipstick Alley. Since most of Cosby's victims were white women, the black women over on LSA don't seem to care.

That attitude is why black women will always be the lowest on life's totem pole.

Vanessa and Theo didn’t get it rougher for being a little darker. Shit. They were both sneaks. Rudy got treated the best. For their mulatta daughters, they knew Denise was a dumb ass hippie so they just tried their best with her. They kissed Sondra’s ass a little being she’s the oldest.

[quote] People like ...Don Lemon ... are "pull yourself by your bootstraps" type of black folk. Very condescending. They don't like to hear about victims and think that everyone can save their type of luck and success. They turn their noses down on less fortunate black people and they rarely speak about racism in the industry.

Not Don Lemon; he's all about racism and victimization lately.

The trolls on LSA aren't black women any more than the trolls on here are gay men, r62. And what kind of irredeemable asshole says an entire demographic of people should be oppressed because of what some trolls said on a forum?

Nah, the black women on LSA also continue to stan for Wacko Jacko because his victims were white. They don't give a fuck unless the victims look like them.

Again, lowest on the totem pole. And no one cares if that ever changes, lol.

Having conflicting feelings is one thing, caring about her former colleague, yes.

Defending a rapist, no.

I'm always sympathetic towards co-stars and former co-stars of people who are found guilty of crimes like this. Think 7th Heaven or Working Girl(in which Spacey made a brief appearance). It may be their only bona fide hit and they didn't do anything wrong. But as it turns out, with Rashad, she's probably just as bad.

R64 I've noticed that but for most of his career on CNN, Don Lemon seemed more conservative. He was very dismissive of the Ferguson protests, had a rant about black people not keeping their neighborhoods clean and held up a sign that had the N word and asked if it offended people. Like Oprah, he seemed to be much more harsher on his black guests. When Trump got elected, CNN probably told him to become super liberal and anti-Trump for a paycheck bonus.

Will I now be canceled?

There’s always racists people like 62 out there. Thankfully, they are far and few between.. THANKFULLY!!! That totally was.uncalled for and it’s appalling and sickening…..

bitch please r17 you never liked her. None of you on here did. You made fun of her because she chose to speak with sophistication about the "THEATUH" so quit the fake disappointment. And Bill has served time already. Leave the old man alone.

[quote] If she'd said something about his Constitutional rights, that would have been one thing. Instead, she said this reversed a miscarriage of justice. That's a whole other matter.

His conviction in this circumstance WAS a miscarriage of justice because his rights were violated. She's insensitive AF, but she's not wrong with this tweet.

Hopefully, another accuser's case is still within the statute of limitations and he can be rightfully convicted and rot in prison where he belongs.

Edit: Groan all you want but the allegations were sketchy from the start and I can’t crucify him (a good black man who did for the community) based on what 60 random white bishes have to say after DECADES.

She simply is old enough to know better. It sucks when black women stand by whatever shitty black man because of their racist experiences. While I get it in that context, it still hugely tuns me off.

So what celebs have come for her?

[quote]We have to broadcast every thought bubble to the world.

She probably thought the sofa cushion would muffle it.

Now that I think of it. Both The Cosby Show and 7th Heaven are similar. Both the actors that played the dads were rapists in real life despite their roles being warm father figures. Both shows had stuck-up judgmental mothers who hated their daughters especially the older ones. Both shows had a dumb older son who always was always fighting with the dad. The older daughters were dumb, stuck-up and couldn't keep a man and slut-shamed by the mom. The middle daughters were total airheads and also slut-shamed by the mom. The youngest daughters were spoiled brats who got away with everything. They added a bunch of characters to move into the house once the kids got too old. The only difference is The Cosby Show ended when it should have. 7th Heaven ran wayyy too long.

EVERYTHING in America is about race. Those white wimmenz knew that if they accused a black man of rape they would be believed plus win a financial settlement. They just recruited a few dumb sistas to throw some dumb folks off their game. If Bill was white, they knew they wouldn’t stand a chance going up against him. It was about money from jump street.

Well I’m an atheist so I’m already burning in hell. Ahhhh poor baby triggered that a black man is winning?

I’m the first the call out BM and their violence but I will never believe white women ever. Fuck them!

And where is the evidence?

Fonts love to talk about criminal justice system yet when we mention facts and ask for evidence against a system that targets black men then suddenly we are the problem!

Hope your son is never accused of rape and is forced into a plea deal!

Let me guess you also think MJ is a pedophile too?

I hear Oprah is hiring these days…..

The fact that Nick Cannon, Omar, and Kat Williams all have a career is enough to tell you that she won’t be canceled.

Phylicia seems to be trying to protect her legacy - but instead she ruined her legacy. I hope her sister, Debbie A. , is smart enough to say “no comment.”

r80 I believe that. I'm not saying ALL white women are lying on black men but by default I will treat their allegations as suspect. Their privilege and accusations have literally cause cities to be burned to the ground, lives lost and innocent black men to be lynched. The hybrid of these women can be seen in the KARENS of today's society. Same thing happened when that white bitch accused Kobe of raping her then she quietly shut up when she got what she really wanted, the money.

I’m extremely saddened by today’s events. He should have did more time for what he did.. And Phylicia saying what she said was absolutely uncalled for.

Yet and still it still doesn’t negate the harsh criticisms and down right racial hate that’s being displayed here on this thread.

It doesn’t.

Now I’m fairly new here and I didn’t realise that there was so much racism deep seeded within ithe LGBT community… Like why? I just don’t get it.

Since you’re cherry-picking quotes r79 and r80, why not post the replies from those upset about the decision? I guess that doesn’t fit your narrative that all black women stan for Cosby and MJ…

[quote]His conviction in this circumstance WAS a miscarriage of justice because his rights were violated.

Enough with this. Rashad has been saying for years that all the women are liars because there was an "orchestrated" conspiracy against Cosby to ruin his legacy.

She has never said anything about his Constitutional rights, and that's not what she meant by miscarriage of justice, and you know it.

R83, she wouldn't have gotten the money if Kobe hadn't given her hush money. He could have chosen to fight the charges but hushing up his victim was what he decided to do

BTW, not all the women who accused Cosby were white

[quote] Now I’m fairly new here and I didn’t realise that there was so much racism deep seeded within ithe LGBT community

OMG, this thread is a relatively tame one. Welcome, r84!

[quote] Enough with this. Rashad has been saying for years that all the women are liars because there was an "orchestrated" conspiracy against Cosby to ruin his legacy. She has never said anything about his Constitutional rights, and that's not what she meant by miscarriage of justice, and you know it.

Thanks for the info, r86. As I stated previously, "I am not sure what Rashad's stance has been about Cosby thus far . . ." This clarifies.

r84, I'm sure you think you sound convincing, but you're not. You're not the first person to say "gosh and golly gee, these anonymous trolls saying racist things means the entire LGBT community is racist" on DL. You're not even the 500th person to say that.

Do we have verificatia for Bill?

[quote]I’m the first the call out BM

R80, if you don't realize that the people saying stuff like this are trolls and not representative of all blacks or all black women, then you're too stupid to talk to.

But r87 if she were truly raped and traumatized by it, instead of it being consensual as Kobe stated then surely she would want to seek justice and then sue him in a civil suit after... right? You can't claim to be a victim then forget about it when a wad of cash is waved in your face

R88.. Oh ok.. Thanks.

I’m hoping the remarks made were out of love and not actual hate then.

Because of one person’s actions you can’t hold everybody accountable.

Thanks

CNN just covered the tweet. She's as good as canceled.

This is such a stupid AND unnecessary career move for her. She purposely did not comment on the situation when it occurred, other than to like a D-level publication that was easily dismissable. Now there's really no way for her to not address it, and her addressing it does not look good on her. She worked with him for decades during which he raped multiple women.

Not all black women are defending him

Let’s get #byephylicia trending on Twitter.

I hope that cunt gets shunned by the industry.

I went to Twitter and burst out laughing when I saw Debbie Allen was trending, because so many people have been tweeting that Debbie needs to get her sister on the phone and tell her to delete that tweet.

Please post your favorite Hot Cosby recipes here:

Stupid bitch. Wtf is she in his goddamn will? Not brave enough to face the Twitter universe shows what a coward she is just like him. And you know for a fact that he didn’t rape anyone because you were there huh?

Is she ... retarded?

R90 I guess I have a lot to learn then.

Bye Felicia!

They slept together

I can feel objective about a he said/she said but allegedly DRUGGING people jfc. Credit to Janice Dickinson, the first allegation I read about was in her memoir 20 years ago.

All she had to do was keep her fucking yap shut, but no...

You know who really hates women?

Women.

It's funny how racists like r62/r66 lways cite fucking Lipstick Alley as if it were (1) relevant, and (2) representative of all black people. Yet it never cites "black Twitter", which is currently (I'm probably low-balling) 75:25 AGAINST Cosby getting out, and is quick to shut down his defenders. Why do you think Rashad turned off replies? It's not "white Twitter" she's afraid of getting backlash from .

R109, you know who really hates women?

Rapists like Bill Cosby.

Was it RAPE rape?

I admire her loyalty but she just went way too far.

She's an Aunt Lydia who should shut the fuck up.

We know he did it. he confessed to giving women Quaaludes when he negotiated an earlier Non-Prosecution Agreement. But the prosecutors weren't supposed to use his confession to prosecute him - only they did.

The Pennsylvania Supreme Court let him go because they ruled he didn't get a fair trial because the prosecutors went back on a previous promise.. I think he's loathsome and I wish he could rot in jail, but prosecutorial misconduct is real and needs to be stopped.

Since her career is over she should start a craft brewery called My Craft Brewery.

[quote]a miscarriage of justice

She does realize that just because she played a lawyer on tv, it doesn’t mean that she knows anything about justice or the law in real life, right?

[quote] deep seeded within ithe LGBT community

Oh, dear!

[quote]She does realize that just because she played a lawyer on tv, it doesn’t mean that she knows anything about justice or the law in real life, right?

Yes, but she was once married to a cop. OK, it was the cop from The Village People, but still . . .

[quote] "I knew this cunt was on that fucker's side."

So did everyone else, R14. She stated as much years ago, when all this started.

Has Rachel Doleza...I mean Nkechi Amare Diallo commented?

In a sworn deposition, Cosby answered questions from Constand’s attorney, Dolores Troiani.

“When you got the Quaaludes, was it in your mind that you were going to use these Quaaludes for young women that you wanted to have sex with?” Troiani asked.

“Yes,” Cosby replied.

Billy Baldwin FTW

Miss OP, it’s DEAN Phylicia Rashād to you!

This here is a hi-tech lynching!

Oh wait. She was misunderstood.

🙄

"I fully support survivors of sexual assault coming forward. I just choose not to believe them."

bitch wants to have it both ways

Phylicia moved to the top of the “Cuntiest Cunt Who Ever Cunted” list today.

Not that she was too far down to begin with.

I have always disliked this smug self satisfied bitch. Fuck her!

She may not survive the backlash of this but she has "fuck you" money. She needs to get off of Twitter for a bit.

"I fully support survivors of sexual assault coming forward. And now that Bill Cosby has been released, there will be more of them. It's a win-win situation".

Will she do a photo op with him when he’s out? I’m sure he and “his people” will try to get her to do one.

What career?

I wonder how many other black entertainers will come out in support of him.

And will he get all his honorary degrees back?

R134, he was released on a technicality. Bill Cosby isn't launching a comeback, get real.

This is how she must be feeling:

I think what she supports is the notion that Black men are treated unfairly in the legal system. It’s the same type of mentality that celebrated when OJ got off - they didn’t care if he was actually guilty or not, it was about some type of vindication for Black men. And I get the sentiment, and maybe he was technically treated unfairly by the justice system (hence today’s announcement), but he admitted to committing some very dark crimes. At the very least, Rashad should choose her words better. If anyone failed anyone in this mess, it was the justice system failing the victims by not properly prosecuting the case in the first place.

Bill and OJ got off because they're RICH. I don't see how anyone with a functioning brain sees that as a win for the average Black American.

She wants to ensure she'll get a role on his comeback sitcom.

But many did with OJ, R138 - were you not paying attention?

R140 I get that they did, I just think they're fucking stupid. Bill at least did stuff for the community when he wasn't off raping. OJ was like..."Black people...never heard of em"

R139 They already had two sitcoms together maybe three if you include the Little Bill cartoon. Nobody is checking for that crusty old senile perv Bill. Phylicia shot herself in the foot standing by this man because she still had an acting career.

She's not really black.

There was absolutely no incentive for her to do this except to look like an asshole. It was a prosecutor's blunder that allowed his release, not some innocent man in prison for 40 years who was suddenly released. He's a rapist.

Now that Cosby is out of prison is he still blind?

His first stop on his way home was Walgreens, to pick up some little blue pills.

Understood it can be more fun to post snarky comments on datalounge, but please take the time to email Howard university your thoughts on ms rashad’s continued tenure.

Speaking up is important.

“Howard University, get rid of her!”

I'll get right on that r147 *eyeroll*

[quote] People like Phylicia Rashad, Denzel Washington, Will Smith, Morgan Freeman, Don Lemon, Vanessa Williams and Whoopi Goldberg are "pull yourself by your bootstraps" type of black folk. Very condescending. They don't like to hear about victims and think that everyone can save their type of luck and success. They turn their noses down on less fortunate black people and they rarely speak about racism in the industry. Phylicia chooses supporting Cosby over other women.

I can't stand most of the people in that group. Morgran Freeman never got cancelled for the scandal of him fucking his step-granddaughter. Denzel is rumored to be a serial cheater which goes against his image of faithful Christian husband. Vanessa Williams managed to reel back from the Miss American scandal

Vanessa seems like a nice person but she is the type who gets offended whenever interviewers mention her light skin privilege and how she greatly benefited from colorism. I don't get why she denies it because she must look in the mirror and see she doesn't look like most black girls and that gave her an edge in a colorstruck entertainment industry.

Aunt Viv has spoken!

One last thing

[quote]People like Phylicia Rashad, Denzel Washington, Will Smith, Morgan Freeman, Don Lemon, Vanessa Williams and Whoopi Goldberg are "pull yourself by your bootstraps" type of black folk.

I've spent time with Whoopi and Vanessa (years apart.) Both were incredibly kind. Whoopi may have changed since then. Vanessa wasn't that long ago. I didn't get that impression of her at all.

What has she been smoking? Does she actually think Bill is innocent?!

I’m surprised this bitch didn’t open the tweet with her signature line “Let the record show...”. She’s insufferable.

Cosby didn't look like he knew what was happening in that press conference. The lawyers kept answering the questions for him. He just sort of smiled.

Yup, maybe she shot herself in the head as well as the foot. so much to loose. That cush'. & very prestigious gig at Howard. Possible future jobs in the 'biz.

BUT, bitch still had the nuts to publically on social media speak her very unpopular opinion.

Would you possibly throw all of that away to speak what you believed? Whew..Man, not sure if I'd have that level of courage. I don't care the why's, the character analyzation, that's all conjecture.. Bitch took the action, she did it.

I respect that kind of courage when I see it, even when I don't agree with what is being said.

I support survivors of sexual assault speaking their truth... except when it affects my legacy. Those bitches were asking for it.

R153 Any specific stories you care to share about your time with them? All ears!

[quote] please take the time to email Howard university your thoughts on ms rashad’s continued tenure.

[bold]DEAN[/bold]Rashād goddamnit!

I mean I can see why she doubts the story. There are only like 50 women who claim the same thing. I mean if it was a 100 maybe then you'd believe it but 50. Nah.

R110, and not to mention that there are plenty of people on LSA trashing Cosby and Rashad. The majority of people commenting on threads about Cosby are disgusted that he was released.

[quote] Yup, maybe she shot herself in the head as well as the foot. so much to loose. That cush'. & very prestigious gig at Howard. Possible future jobs in the 'biz.

At age 73, what jobs do you believe she’s worried about obtaining or loosing?

Losing

Great. She works at my alma mater now. I'll get blamed for this too.

She's worried about something, hence the backstroke at R125.

[quote]At age 73, what jobs do you believe she’s worried about obtaining or loosing?

She just booked a movie, come to think of it.

[quote] I wonder if the black community will welcome him back with open arms after he spent decades saying "I'm better than you all because I don't do hood-speak"?

I would say black people who are fans of Eddie Murphy and the late Richard Pryor will not welcome him back with open arms. Cosby trashed Murphy and Pryor for the content of their stand up routines. IIRC, he bitched about Wanda Sykes using profanity and ghetto talk in her routines.

Debbie Allen was smarter. She just expressed her feelings in an interpretative dance.

Wanda Sykes? He bitched about her? Is there anything about this man NOT to hate?

yes r168 he famously said to Wanda Sykes on an Emmys telecast that on his show they spoke English implying she used Ebonics I guess. Sykes just let it go.

[quote] Now that I think of it. Both The Cosby Show and 7th Heaven are similar. Both the actors that played the dads were rapists in real life despite their roles being warm father figures. Both shows had stuck-up judgmental mothers who hated their daughters especially the older ones. Both shows had a dumb older son who always was always fighting with the dad. The older daughters were dumb, stuck-up and couldn't keep a man and slut-shamed by the mom. The middle daughters were total airheads and also slut-shamed by the mom. The youngest daughters were spoiled brats who got away with everything. They added a bunch of characters to move into the house once the kids got too old. The only difference is The Cosby Show ended when it should have. 7th Heaven ran wayyy too long.

I hated both shows. But, Stephen Collins came off as more low key in the media during the years he was working which was the opposite of Cosby who always finding something to bitch about and then act holier than thou.

[quote] I wonder if the black community will welcome him back with open arms after he spent decades saying "I'm better than you all because I don't do hood-speak"?

Worrying about the 54% of white voters who voted to re-elect Trump is probably a better use of your time. Being that if actually impacts your life. It most likely certainly if of greater concern to black people than Cosby.

I'm curious if you wonder how the white community will react every time a white celeb makes national news. Every negative (and even sometimes positive) story about a black celeb is used to make some type of judgement (usually negative) about the larger black community.

[quote] She's worried about something, hence the backstroke at [R125].

Voicing her support for women is not really a "backstroke." She can support women coming forward and also disagree with the Cosby prosecution. You hope that she's struggling at 73 and worried about her next job. However, she doesn't ever have to work again, she's worked consistently for the last 40 yrs and she most likely is not worried.

They came for Phylicia on Twitter

THEN they came for Debbie.

I was going to clap if they transferred that energy and came for Shonda!

This is the tweet. Ha.

[quote] Rachel True mentioned on Alec Mapa's podcast that there was basically a line of women outside Bill Cosby's dressing room on "The Cosby Show." It's unsurprising that Rashad thinks he couldn't be an abuser. But rape is about power and plenty of people don't seem to truly understand that.

Joseph C. Phillips made similar comments about there being various young women hanging around Cosby and that it was an open secret that Cosby cheated on his wife. I also recall some story where a former NBC employee came forward and said he was tasked with paying hush money to Cosby's mistresses. One of the women he mentioned being paid off was Shawn Upshaw who is the mother of Autumn Jackson who went to prison for extorting Cosby.

Debbie does work for Shonda. I wonder if Ellen Pompeo will have harsh words for Debbie. Pompeo is a bit of a loose canon on moral issues.

[Quote] she most likely is not worried.

If that were true, she wouldn't have tried to clean it up with a follow up tweet.

[Quote] some type of judgement (usually negative) about the larger black community.

You mean like "pull up your pants" Cosby did?

I still recall how nasty he was towards Wanda Sykes.

She has recently worked in a small supporting role on This Is Us. And she played the same bitchy part she usually does. One starts to think that when an actor plays the same kind of person time and time again, that might be their ACTUAL personality.

Disagree. Julie Andrews is a salty broad but she never plays one.

Julie Andrews is a fucking talentless drone. Phylicia is a talented drone.

The difference between 7th Heaven and The Cosby Show is that after the allegations came out about Stephen Collins, you never saw 7th Heaven in syndication ever again. The Hallmark Channel used to air it, but not after that. Meanwhile, The Cosby Show still airs on black tv stations. They obviously don't care.

Stephen Collins was never a star. And he sure as shit wasn't a pop culture king.

I never understood how’s he had a career, terrible actress.

Hasn’t this been her position since the beginning? Ditto Kesha knight pulliam and Malcolm Jamal Warner? Pulliam showed up to his trial as support. I think the only main cast member to remotely say anything negative was Lisa bonet who told her daughter she was shocked by it.

Diana Ross tweeted support for MJ after leaving neverland came out and got some blowback but not much. Ditto Diane Keaton and scarjo who both said they believed woody Allen.

Get your tickets now---

[Quote] I never understood how’s he had a career, terrible actress.

Charles Busch?

We'll see how this pans out. I'm 50/50 on whether she is canceled because of the race card, and I really hate to say that. I kind of don't even want to post this, but what she said/how she feels is amazing given the evidence/confession. She should have never opined about this turn of events and kept her feelings private. I do think she might lose her Dean-ship though. It will most likely be as a result of a "health issue."

[quote] Stephen Collins was never a star. And he sure as shit wasn't a pop culture king.

He had a lead role on a series that ran for 11 seasons. How do you define star?

[quote] Hasn’t this been her position since the beginning? Ditto Kesha knight pulliam and Malcolm Jamal Warner? Pulliam showed up to his trial as support. I think the only main cast member to remotely say anything negative was Lisa bonet who told her daughter she was shocked by it. Diana Ross tweeted support for MJ after leaving neverland came out and got some blowback but not much. Ditto Diane Keaton and scarjo who both said they believed woody Allen.

Generally speaking, people tend to support their friends and loved ones, even when they are accused of terrible things. Most people don't believe that their close friends and loved ones are capable of committing terrible crimes. That's a pretty normal pretty standard human reaction. Why do people act like their shocked about it. Twitter mobs are not going to change that. Demonizing Rashad is not going to change that, nor is it going to change the outcome of this case.

People bring all of their daily life anger and frustration to the internet and direct it at celebs. Which doesn't improve the quality of anyone's life.

[quote]The Cosby Show still airs on black tv stations. They obviously don't care.

Have you paid attention at all to the coverage and on twitter? Black people aren't defending him. Joy Reid went off on him and the decision.

[quote] We'll see how this pans out. I'm 50/50 on whether she is canceled because of the race card, and I really hate to say that. I kind of don't even want to post this, but what she said/how she feels is amazing given the evidence/confession. She should have never opined about this turn of events and kept her feelings private. I do think she might lose her Dean-ship though. It will most likely be as a result of a "health issue."

When did Cosby confess to assault and what was the evidence?

[quote]Generally speaking, people tend to support their friends and loved ones, even when they are accused of terrible things.

Not once they have been convicted. You dont see a lot of people standing up for John Wayne Gacy. Most family and friends go into hiding becuase they know the person did something wrong and dont want to admit they were close to them during that behavior. Unlike Phylicia and Twitter.

John Wayne Gacy was my babysitter. And a fine painter. He was quite handy around the house. We loved him, even though he was a bit unkempt at times. Loved to play in the basement with us kids. Nobody is all bad.

PR can escape being canceled if she comes out as trans or NB.

[quote] Dean Rashád would like to announce that thxy are a non-binary, pansexual, trans person of color. Did you know that a trans person gets murdered every 3 seconds in the continental United States and once every 4 seconds in Hawaii?

[quote] Mx Rashád's pronouns are Hx Majesty / Hx Majesty's. Mx Rashád is not amused by people now calling Hx Majesty "Phil" and also stated that Hx Majesty has also had a name change to DEAN Rashád. Attempts to refer to Dean Rashád by Hx Majesty's dead name are LITERAL VIOLENCE!!!!!

I’ll get my own coffee, bitch!

r193 when he confessed to obtaining ludes for the purpose of having sex with women? duh?

A whole lot of people are just fine with raping, especially of hoes; they're just not stupid enough to post it out loud.

[quote]BUT, bitch still had the nuts to publically on social media speak her very unpopular opinion.

Courage had nothing to do with it, R157, she simply misread the room.

She thought a large number of people would be on board with his release and wanted to be the first and loudest to champion Cosby and his return to make herself look good.

[quote] Not once they have been convicted.

Not true and why bother arguing that when Cosby's conviction was just thrown out.

[quote] [R193] when he confessed to obtaining ludes for the purpose of having sex with women? duh?

In other words he never confessed to assaulting anyone.

[quote] Courage had nothing to do with it, [R157], she simply misread the room. She thought a large number of people would be on board with his release and wanted to be the first and loudest to champion Cosby and his return to make herself look good. —She thought wrong.

Her opinion was well known and its never changed. Despite the internet outrage.

Good luck getting an almost 80 yr old to change their opinion

Claire Huxtable was a cunt.

Phylicia Rashad is a cunt.

Not much acting.

Want to bet she finagles him a guest actor arc on This Is Us, those whores will do anything to boost their finale season ratings.

Was it a miscarriage of justice, or a miscarriage-miscarriage?

I've never heard of her.

Judging by her age she is near death anyway.

He got out of prison due to the incompetence of a prosecutor, not because he's innocent - BIG difference there, Phylicia

But she's probably sitting home all day drinking rose & the details are lost on her

People have posted multiple times that Rashad has said for years that she thinks this is all a conspiracy to ruin a famous black man. Let's stop pretending like she's just clueless, okay?

R140, with OJ there were several instances of cops being racist and perhaps even violating his rights, like when they climbed the fence to get onto his property for no reason, plus some sketchy evidence collection. The prosecution came in with a weak presentation because they were convinced that convicting a black man would be easy, like it always was. People weren't glad OJ got away with it because he was black, but because his case at the time was uniquely positioned to show the bias in the justice system against blacks and poor people. The general feeling was that the cops and the prosecution didn't deserve a conviction because they didn't follow the rules or put in the work.

It's been decades so now it's all been reduced down to "blacks wanted him free because he's black" but that's reductionist and not accurate.

Cosby wasn't a victim of the system, he was protected by the system, including with that 2005 agreement with the DA that has now allowed him to go free again. Very different situation.

Has Lisa Bonet commented?

Howard University disavowed a sympathetic tweet on comedian Bill Cosby and his abrupt release from prison by his TV wife Phylicia Rashad, the incoming dean of Howard’s fine arts college.

Howard said in a statement that Rashad’s initial tweet about Cosby “lacked sensitivity towards survivors of sexual assault.”

R11, What a dope!

Who?

🤔I think Philicia's been giving it away to Big Daddy for years.

COSBY Show re-boot on NBC Fall 2022.

It's only due to tweet size limits that Dean Rashad didn't post a doctoral thesis of her thoughts in her signature pretentious, patronizing style meant to e-DU-cate and i-LLU-MI-nate all the poor, ignorant schlubs.

R49: God I DETEST people like you. "I hate the N*gg***s and all the Jews should be deported so don't control the banks!" Idiots like you then say "WOW, he speak his mind, how brave, kudos to you."

FUCK. OFF.

R201: Hi Phylicia. You're a cunt and everyone hates you.

[quote] The difference between 7th Heaven and The Cosby Show is that after the allegations came out about Stephen Collins, you never saw 7th Heaven in syndication ever again. The Hallmark Channel used to air it, but not after that. Meanwhile, The Cosby Show still airs on black tv stations. They obviously don't care.

7th Heaven was yanked from that UpTV channel for awhile. UpTV later started reairing the show because viewers had contacted them and said that they were able to separate the show and the fictional character of Eric Camden from the Stephen Collins scandal. Reruns were on for awhile and they show got yanked again.

I think The Cosby Show only airs on TV One. IIRC, BET pulled it right away.

The Cosby Show is available on Amazon Prime. 7th Heaven is on Prime and Hulu. It would be interesting to know the streaming numbers for those shows on streaming platforms.

A crime is a crime and I don't mean to suggest one is worse than another.

But I think somewhere, the entertainment folks decided a man who *allegedly* had sex with women without their consent was somehow a bridge there were willing to cross.

Whereas a man who admitted he was attracted to children (Collins) was a bridge too far.

[quote] Black people aren't defending him.

People keep forgetting this whole thing picked up steam again because of Hannibal Burgess. It’s nonsense that he has widespread support from the Black community.

In fact, I think it’s fitting to revisit Buress’ bit:

It’s even worse because Bill Cosby has the f--kin’ smuggest old Black man public persona that I hate," Buress said during his joke at the time, according to Business Insider.

"He gets on TV, ‘Pull your pants up Black people, I was on TV in the ‘80s! I can talk down to you because I had a successful sitcom!’ Yeah, but you rape women, Bill Cosby, so turn the crazy down a couple notches. ’I don't curse on stage!' But yeah you're a rapist, so… I'd take you saying lots of ‘motherf--kers’ on Bill Cosby himself if you weren't a rapist."

But Cosby has NOT been exonerated, only released on a technicality, and his crimes are still a matter of public record. #MeToo isn't about locking people up for life, it's about peoples' right to talk openly about things that actually happened to them without their attackers being able to threaten and intimidate them into silence.

[quote] Have you paid attention at all to the coverage and on twitter? Black people aren't defending him. Joy Reid went off on him and the decision.

In response to choosing to continue to air The Cosby Show, TV One said:

"Research showed, according to TV One, that 81% of black Americans are likely to watch, with 86% indicating that recent events didn't negatively affect their decision."

So, yeah, they obviously don't care.

And since you're obviously comfortable cherry picking quotes from famous black people, listen to what Damon Wayans said:

"I don’t believe he was raping," Wayans told the radio hosts, Angela Yee, DJ Envy and Charlamagne Tha God. "Bye, b------. And they’re like, oh, really? Rape,” Wayans said. "Some of them, it’s un-rape-able. I look at them, (I think) no, you don’t want that. Get outta here, get up and get outta here."

Can’t they just digitally remove him from the show and replace him with a emoji or something?

[quote] Wayans said. "Some of them, it’s un-rape-able. I look at them, (I think) no, you don’t want that. Get outta here, get up and get outta here."

Yeah that makes a [italic] LOT [/italic] of sense. I'm sure women everywhere will feel reassured that an ignorant, inarticulate misogynist like Wayans has said his piece.

[quote] Why do people act like their shocked about it.

Oh, dear!

What sucks about this is that American audiences’ lack of interest in the career of a middling talent like Rashad will be attributed to her being cancelled/racism, when in fact nobody has ever given two seconds thought to her existence.

7th Heaven and The Cosby Show are irrelevant to Gen Z unlike Full House and Fresh Prince. Black-Ish is like a Cosby Show 2.0

R222 is a toxic racist. You live for stuff like this don't you old white man? But you really aren't aware of what Black people think or who they support. Not at all. You're the cotton pickin cherry picker. And quite dumb.

R208. Thank you for your excellent post and intelligent analysis.

You can't really compare Cosby and Collins. Yes, Collins was the star of a popular TV show, but Cosby was iconic for decades. Before the news blew up, most Americans knew the name Bill Cosby, even if they weren't fan (I'm too young for the Cosby show). How many people knew the name Stephen Collins?

[quote]The Cosby Show is available on Amazon Prime. 7th Heaven is on Prime and Hulu. It would be interesting to know the streaming numbers for those shows on streaming platforms.

That's what I think really pisses her off; she should be pulling in good $$ from residuals, instead of having the crowning achievement of her acting career be cast aside.

Stephen Collins was highly fuckable.

Bill Cosby was not.

Buck would never have said that.

Neither would Susan Dey, for that matter.

I really doubt Stephen's fuckability had to do with 7th Heaven being on two streaming services. It's an Evangelical Christian show with a lily-white cast, so conservatives love it and they are a big audience. The Cosby Show a standard 80s family sitcom.

Malcolm Jamal Warner was hot in later seasons, so that made up for Bill's lack of sex appeal.

Cosby can’t be tried again for these specific charges, correct?

Correct, r234. The court ruled they be vacated and not brought again.

[quote] (I'm too young for the Cosby show).

Humble brag.

R234: The Court said no due to the civil suit agreement. Additionally, the indictment came on the day before the statue of limitations would have run out, so that would be further complications.

Looks like Cosby is planning a tour.

OG tweet gonzo

[quote] before the statue of limitations would have run out,

Oh, dear!

Yes, it was a bronze statue of imitations R240. Not all black people are blue black or chocolate coloured. Don't be offensive. Or so fucking prissy. Jeezus those Oh dear old farts stink up this joint.

Be like Bianca.

R231 Bill Cosby was a very attractive man when he was young. I definitely would've let him fuck me then.

Twitter is not the real world, and of course black people on Twitter who have been influenced by white liberals are going to be against him ON Twitter.

Black people off of Twitter is a completely different story. More like Rashad and the Waynes brother way of thinking.

A lot of these women are angry because they thought Cosby was going to make them big Stars. And when things didn't go the way they wanted it to, they got mad and decided to make trouble for Bill.

A lot of people believe this is the way things played out. Never underestimate the hunger for fame and fortune by some people. Those are powerful motivators to play Crosby's games.

R31, I always thought that Vanessa must have been an unintended pregnancy because Clair was much harsher on her than the other kids, even calling her a "wench" at one point, which ever so amused me.

Shared a cab with Phylicia years ago when she was fresh off her Tony win, and she was actually quite lovely -- chatty, interested, warm, and with none of the "Grand Lady of Theatah" mannerisms DL sometimes roasts her for. The public Cosby support is incredibly ballsy given the times we are living in, though I don't agree with it.

Cosby's a pig - but how many of these women were shaking him down to stay quiet?

R244, and yet, Cosby's own testimony contradicts what you say. He quite clearly admits to using qualudes to get women to have sex with him. As long as they did not cry or scream the next morning, he considered that retroactive consent.

He also considered the incapacity to move that you have on qualudes to be consent.

He said this clearly in his deposition.

Vanessa could be whiny and bratty but she was a normal teenage girl. The show was a bit realistic on how some parents definitely have their unfavorite.

I don't think it's ballsy if the person in question need never work again. Not only that, she's old and she doesn't have to worry about her age cohort.

Phylicia Rashad does not bow down to racist white liberal Woke mobs. She's old school, and she's not afraid of 2021 Gen Z bullshit standards of PC ways of behaving.

Then explain her lame follow up tweet, hon.

[quote] Phylicia Rashad does not bow down to racist white liberal Woke mobs. She's old school, and she's not afraid of 2021 Gen Z bullshit standards of PC ways of behaving.

Like respect for women?

[quote] Phylicia Rashad does not bow down to racist white liberal Woke mobs. She's old school, and she's not afraid of 2021 Gen Z bullshit standards of PC ways of behaving.

Bill Cosby was the type of Black man that Toni Morrison and Alice Walker wrote about in their books. The predatory abuser who took advantage of the patriarchy and misogyny in the Black community. Phylicia is the enabler because she is beneficiary of Cosby and wants to protect his reputation in order to protect hers. She is selfish.

Why did these women go to his hotel room in the first place? And why did they take pills a dr did not prescribe to them?

I feel as though, these women have been treated in an infantile manner. They wanted certain things, and when they didn't get them they were pissed. This is a popular opinion by many people.

What Cosby allegedly did and these women wanting to be stars and it not happening for them can all be true at once. As far as I'm concerned, no one is innocent in this whole sorted mess.

“A lot of these women are angry because they thought Cosby was going to make them big Stars. And when things didn't go the way they wanted it to, they got mad and decided to make trouble for Bill.”

That is nonsense. “Pill” Cosby was known by people in show biz as a drugger and rapist of women even before any of the women spoke out.

What kind of an idiot thinks 50 women are lying and one man speaks the truth? We all know men are liars.

R249, Rashad is still a working actress with two recent Emmy nominations. The Cosby support could definitely fuck things up for her; even if she doesn't need the money, most actors want to keep working and be widely liked. That's why you see so much virtue signaling these days--celebrities jumping on bandwagons they don't necessarily believe in because they think it will make them look good.

[Quote] no one is innocent in this whole sorted mess.

Does that mean everyone is equally guilty, hon? Your post reads like deflection. It sounds similar to the Wayans' "unrapeable" comment above.

R253 Those same stories can be translated to white families as well. Just look at the way eleanor roosevelt grew up, with abusive uncles and abused her as well.

This isn't a black thing, this is a man thing. Men have always been abusive assholes, not all but historically some patriarchs abuse their roles in the family. Race doesn't even matter in this situation, because those stories exist in every ethnic group. That's definitely not unique to black men.

I don't think so. She certainly got that call from the administration to put out a follow up tweet, but I doubt she'll be fired. Only if it meant a decrease in donations or some other big monetary impact would she be let go. She was just named Dean this summer. We'll see if there's lingering effects.

I think race does matter in this context. There are many white sitcom dads. There aren't all that many black ones. Cosby was almost, if not quite, a unicorn.

R256 It's kinda like when we saw all of these over privileged white celebrities who've never cared about social issues or police brutality ever in life, especially the young ones. Suddenly, last summer you saw everyone falling all over themselves to jump on the George Floyd bandwagon, along with major companies etc.

Now that pandemic is fading, crickets!

It was all PR protesting, nothing else.

R261, if you think there is a race aspect to selfish greed, you have no lucidity about your experience of the human species.

A major black HBCU, university like Howard university is not going to fire someone as important as Rashad, because she exorcised her first amendment rights.

An HBCU is not going to bend to a liberal white mob. I'm sure they probably told her to be careful next time. But getting rid of Rashad is definitely not out of the question. Black institutions are one place white people have very little power or control.

That shit is dead!

Is definitely out of the question.

[Quote] That shit is dead!

Cosby? Not yet.

Tweet Deleted.....Molly you in danger gurl.

... Would the poster(s) upthread care to take back their opinion of Rashad as "courageous"?

R261 the ugly truth is, in a world without covid induced lockdowns, there are no George Floyd protests, and if there are, they're on the scale of Ferguson, Mo. People were looking for a reason to go outside in may/june of 2020 and the injustice of Mr Floyd's death gave them one.

The size and ferocity of the protests were reflective of anger at injustice yes, but in no small part also cabin fever.

She must have gotten the message. Tweet's gone.

Now grampa, is that cabin fever like Cabin in the Sky or Cabin in the Cotton, R268? Y'all sound so wise like about the coloured people's unrest. What is so small about Ferguson? BLM, Obama, Beyonce, protests, riots, Super Bowl, Trayvon Martin, WOKENESS - and the resulting bringing down of X flags and monuments is just the beginning. POC. Protests are changing our world you old fucking racist freak. They are largely responsible for what got rid of your president and fuhrer, DJT. The truth is not ugly. The truth is beautiful. Phylicia spoke her truth. If there are consequences, so be it. The times they are a changin, again, gramps. You best have a nap.

George Floyd got a lot of attention and some justice, but it ain't done old man. There are so many wrongs to be set right. Say their names. Maybe you mean well....

Twitter is far more reflective of the real world than DataLounge. I bet you don't even know how to get on the Twitter Machine, pa.

[quote]What Cosby allegedly did and these women wanting to be stars and it not happening for them can all be true at once. As far as I'm concerned, no one is innocent in this whole sorted mess.

Fucking someone for a chance at stardom is one thing; being drugged by the guy who will fuck you for your chance at stardom because he prefers you lie there like a corpse is another.

They could have ODed, or hemorrhaged if he got rough down there. Do you really think Cos was the type to wait around til the ambulance came?

Ennis knew.

Cosby is a rapist. Old gay men seem to think that if they woke up with their clothes off in a strange place with a bloody hole, they had a good night. Gross.

[quote] because she exorcised her first amendment rights.

Oh dear …and your mother sucks cocks in hell.

[quote] What Cosby allegedly did and these women wanting to be stars and it not happening for them can all be true at once. As far as I'm concerned, no one is innocent in this whole sorted mess.

A.) Gross. B.) It's "sordid," you moron.

R80. Cosby himself gave testimony that he did, in fact, sexually assault those YT bishes. He admitted to it. Stating that you would never believe a white person is the reason why Blacks are stereotyped. The same twisted rationale was used to free OJ. This line of thinking is not helping your call for equality. Instead, it reinforces it.

Bill Cosby IS Old Mister! Time for a Color Purple remake

Phylicia does Sondheim:

R138. OJ and COSBY got off because they are RICH. So then does that mean all the killings of innocent black men by the police is because they were POOR? How many poor whites do the police kill because they just ‘white trash’. It’s not the same thing - race plays a factor.

I predict she will keep successfully befuddling poor James Earl Jones with pompous pronouncements about "Theater."

I didn’t read this thread, because I don’t really care, but my hag had a fling with Ahmad Rashad when he was married to her…early to mid 90s. He told her that they had no relationship and hated each other, but they stayed married for a few more years. He told hag that he wanted to marry her, even though he was still married. He seems charming AF, but is an obvious cheating whore. I feel bad for phylicia getting duped into a shitty marriage. I have no idea why she is defending Cosby. Dementia?

[quote] He seems charming AF, but is an obvious cheating whore.

OMG, sign me up!! He sound just my type.

How did a 73 year old with no academic background become the dean of a prominent College department? It doesn’t make any sense, what could she possibly offer them besides her fame in terms of running a department and maybe fund raising all for possibly months and at best 2-3 years?

Ms. Rashad is a Tone and Emmie nominated actress. She can play a dean as well as anyone.

R284 Like I could almost understand if it was her sistah Debbie, at least she played a teacher and she could just repeat this speech as her motivational interaction with students all the time.

[quote]A major black HBCU, university like Howard university is not going to fire someone as important as Rashad, because she exorcised her first amendment rights.

I think that depends on the reaction of the students; right now they're on summer break, but if they return & Cosby is doing some self-righteous grandstanding in the press and pissing everyone off, they might be angry enough at Rashad to force the administration into making changes. But I agree that the school probably told her to shut up & stay off twitter and left it at that.

R16 No, they aren't, you sexist dumbass.

[quote] Stephen Collins was highly fuckable.

If you're a 13-year-old girl (or "young lady" as he calls them), come on down!

The Constitution is not a "technicality."

Bill Cosby was promised immunity for making a statement under oath (rather than exercising his 5th amendment rights). That is an injustice to use the statements, whether it's Bill Cosby or someone else.

What I don't understand is how he is now considered 100% free. The appeals court could have allowed the prosecutor to recharge & retry him *without* using his self-incriminating statements. I.e., the prosecutor can still have its witnesses (Constand, etc.) testify about what happened to them. Still submit exhibits, expert witnesses, etc.

Sorry, I think double jeopardy kicked in.

I’ll dare any of you cunts to tell a court or a judge that so-and-so promised me, pinky swear that I won’t get in trouble, etc…

And find out what happens to your sorry ass.

Go on now!

As we keep trying to explain to you, and which I suspect you are pretending not to understand, no one is saying the Fifth Amendment is a technicality.

What they are saying is that the court heard prior to prosecution that there had been a verbal-only agreement, but that the DA had said he reserved the right to revisit the case at a later date and potentially bring charges. This is in the AP article linked earlier in the thread, so don't ask me for a link, just go find it yourself.

The court said that the agreement was essentially non-binding and that the new DA could revisit the case just as the former DA said he reserved the right to do. The prosecution proceeded.

Later, the PA Supreme Court disagreed and said the agreement WAS binding. THAT is the technicality. Not the Fifth Amendment.

The years-long coddling of Cosby by the press and law enforcement before his conviction, and now his conviction being overturned and being released from prison -- none of this has to do with his race, despite what the racists here are saying.

It 100% has to do with his wealth and celebrity.

In other words, this has nothing to do with race and everything to do with CLASS.

Which is why our right wing trolls are beating the dead horse of race right now. That's what they want you to believe, that Cosby got off because he's black. It's their usual divide-and-conquer tactics -- get the gays on DL to hate "the blacks" because Cosby, all to distract us from the real war, which is class war.

I can't understand why she did this in the first place. Muting comments, she must have known she would get a massive pushback. And now she even deleted her tweet.

The whole deleting the tweet thing makes me giggle. Anyone over the age of 2 knows that is ridiculous.

R289, maybe given his age and health, it wouldn’t be worth the time.

The responses to her "heartfelt wish" tweets are brutal, 😆.

[quote]How did a 73 year old with no academic background become the dean of a prominent College department? It doesn’t make any sense, what could she possibly offer them besides her fame in terms of running a department and maybe fund raising all for possibly months and at best 2-3 years?

She went to the school.

She's an expert in her field by sheer virtue of her award wins and long career.

She has been a guest lecturer, an adjunct faculty member, and taught master's level classes over the years at many places including Carnegie Mellon, NYU, Stella Adler, etc.

Hell, she taught Chadwick Boseman at Howard!

And in spite of all that training, she always seems like she’s got a giant flag pole shoved up her ass.

[quote]I didn’t read this thread,

Stopped right there. If you don’t care what others had to say, why should we care what you have to say?

R290 has no idea what double jeopardy is.

[quote] The appeals court could have allowed the prosecutor to recharge & retry him

They could have, yes, but if they found the error so egregious as to be a miscarriage of justice, that’s a remedy available to them as a sort of sanction.

[quote] Jeezus those Oh dear old farts stink up this joint.

Welcome to Datalounge! I don’t think you’re going to enjoy your stay.

[quote] That's what I think really pisses her off; she should be pulling in good $$ from residuals, instead of having the crowning achievement of her acting career be cast aside.

I agree, she's probably pissed about not making much as she did in residual for the show. I do wonder if actors receive some kind of residual when a show is put on a streaming platform.

Malcolm-Jamal Warner bitched a few years ago about losing money via residuals.

Here is an interview with an attorney who is also a Cosby victim.

Her take on this case as well as O.J., Casey Anthony, etc. is very interesting.

Can't we all just be like Kirstie Alley? Stop being so "open minded."

[quote] Can't we all just be like Kirstie Alley?

Half of DL is already there by being overweight and perpetually 10 seconds from a crying jag.

She has issued an apology statement.

She needs to go, apology or not. Sh also said when the Cosby scandal hit that “these women do not matter.” She doesn’t mean it, her apology is insincere.

Her apology is a desperate attempt to save her job at Howard. She supported Bill Cosby throughout his trial and her tweet just validates that. She does not believe these women. Her statement is crap.

R298 the woman has won ONE Tony award and has been denied multiple Emmys, probably due to her blind support of Cosby. Her celebrity has everything to do with her getting that position.

I would have more respect for her if she stood by her tweet instead of offering a fake apology and promising to ‘listen.’

Howard came down on her, hard:

"This week, I tweeted a statement that caused so much hurt in so many people - both broadly and inside the Howard community," wrote Rashad, who played Cosby's wife on "The Cosby Show." "I offer my most sincere apology. I have since removed that upsetting tweet." Multiple Howard students confirmed to CBS News that they received the email.

"I am sorry," she added. "I intend to earn your trust and your forgiveness."

[quote]the woman has won ONE Tony award and has been denied multiple Emmys, probably due to her blind support of Cosby. Her celebrity has everything to do with her getting that position.

Sad you don't seem to realize there are other awards that matter to black people other than Tony and Emmy Awards.

That person said she didn't have any background in Academia. She does. She has taught for years. End of statement.

Having worked in an educational environment, you'd think she'd be smarter at giving her two cents... Evidently not.

^ And that's the truth R315. Most people already know that Rashad has defended Cosby from the beginning. But to make this statement upon his release.....should make Howard question her ability and judgement. I think and hope she's done. It's not about standing by your friends. It's about HER boastful public rejoicing (over a technicality) that set a serial rapist free.

R314 NAACP, black reel and people’s choice awards don’t matter shit in the entertainment industry ok. I doubt black people give a second thought to them period. Sad that I had to point that out to YOU.

Knew it. They told her to what she could for damage control so they don't have to fire her.

I’m upset he’s been released and he’s a monster, but I wish people would stop saying it was a technicality that got him released. It wasn’t.

Seriously, ENOUGH. Leave the woman alone. Apart from a tweet in support of a friend and former colleague who probably gave her a semblance at stardom, she hasn't done anything to warrant being cancelled by the feminists. She also apologized twice in that her tweet was taken to mean that she didn't support rape victims.

Sometimes, when it's someone you have been working with for over a decade, it can be difficult to imagine them a certain other way. The actress playing Rudy and Vanessa also supported Cosby because they knew a different man. There are also some who claim that it was a conspiracy against him; that he was targeted... etc. Leave Mrs Rashad alone and worry about other more important things.

Nice try, R320. So she was being 'supportive' of rape victims when she said earlier, "Forget these women. What you're seeing is the destruction of a legacy."?

r320 = Debbie Allen

[quote] Leave Mrs Rashad alone and worry about other more important things.

Mrs DEAN Rashād!!

I'll get my own coffee, thank you very much.

That was before she married Ahmad Rashad, R324.

Then what was it r319?

Most lawyers seem to agree that the prosecutors ignored a previous agreement.

R320, if you want to be “left alone”, you don’t make public statements glorifying a rapist. If you do that, you have to deal with the criticism.

R326, read the dissent in the opinion vacating Cosby’s sentence. There is very good reason to believe that there was no prior agreement.

[quote] Most lawyers seem to agree that the prosecutors ignored a previous agreement.

Yes and that’s no “technicality.”

You have a constitutional right not to be forced to say anything that might incriminate yourself in a criminal proceeding. The DA thought it would be tough to get a conviction against Cosby, but as the burden of proof would be lower in a civil case, he thought the civil case was the best way to hold Cosby accountable. So he agreed that he would not press criminal charges.

As a result, Cosby could be freely deposed in the civil suit and compelled to testify. He was, and he said incriminating things.

Then the DA’s office decided to bring criminal charges against Cosby, and used his statements in the civil trial against him.

Now put your feelings about scumbag Cosby aside for a second. Is that some shit or what? It’s no technicality like chain of custody or something — that directly subverts core protections of people in a free society.

Ummmm....R328, that is what is meant by a technicality. He was not released because exculpatory evidence was found. No doubt about Cosby's guilt was raised.

He was released because the rules of legal proceedings were not followed. The right to not self-incriminate is important and good. But that does not mean its application cannot be a technicality. It is.

^^^He is legally innocent. But not actually innocent.

^^no he’s not. “Not guilty beyond a reasonable doubt” is way different than “innocent.”

If there were legal misdeeds that meant that Cosby's conviction had to be voided, why did it take three years for his lawyers to figure it out?

R331, that is what "legally innocent" means.

[quote] Ummmm....[R328], that is what is meant by a technicality. He was not released because exculpatory evidence was found. No doubt about Cosby's guilt was raised.

Don’t um me - violating someone’s constitutional rights is not a “technicality.” It is one of the gravest injustices that can be perpetrated against an American.

[quote]He was released because the rules of legal proceedings were not followed.

Again, no. This was not a violation of criminal procedure rules. It was a violation of the constitution.

Who takes an old law clerk named "Bootsy Gumdrop" seriously? I think that your points are correct R334, but Cosby opened himself for his sealed testimony from the civil suit being opened when he shot off his big mouth about his other accusers and his relationship with Constant. It was a sketchy decision, but it was the PRESS that accessed and publicized his admissions from the 2005 civil deposition. That testimony was no longer sealed by law after 2 years. Why a criminal court judge allowed it to be admitted is most likely your point. A Bootsy Gumdrop is hard to pay mind to. Cosby had legal recourse -so why DID it take so long to overturn his conviction if the court was in violation of criminal procedure rules?

Oh, I forgot to post my briefs.

Every firm has a Bootsy Gumdrop, who thinks that making sweeping emotional arguments makes them look better than simply citing the law.

Alright, Bootsy! It is a lot more fun to cite the constitution than the laws that apply the constitution. So work yourself up into a lather and enjoy it!

Every firm has an r335 - r337, who cites a radio station as her “briefs.”

That dumb old constitution! It’s so laden with emotion.

Wouldn’t it be fun to twilight zone r335 into a situation in which she were subjected to an involuntary commitment proceeding, but not afforded any due process rights, so away she goes because some conflicted judge says so? You know, like happens in Russia, a country without that silly, emotion-kaden constitutional protection?

Or maybe r335 - r337 should be brought up on criminal charges and then requires to testify in her only trial, because nothing is sillier or more emotional than the constitution.

All of these protections just being “technicalities,” of course.

Every firm has a r335 - r337, who see these things as “technicalities” — and as a result date rapists like Cosby walk free.

Meow Bootsy. What an old fruity bat you must be. You sound like the banned poster known as miss warwicke. Only ancient white fags feminize other gay men when they feel threatened. Sorry to upset your fine legal equilibrium. Or is it librium R338?

You know about scat than the law. That's for sure, queer cat. Now SHOO!

Booty Gumdrop is the SCAT queen! That poster fools no one. He posts all those EST scenarios about shit on the guestroom walls. What kind of sick minds old men have on this site. Today he's a lawyer? No sale.