Worst queer movie you've seen?

You lost me at queer.

I see your 'Piccadilly Pickups,' and raise you 'The Fluffer.'

The oddest gay film I ever saw was a low-budget film about a half-Vietnamese/half-black son of a POW. One of the main characters ends up getting inexplicably choked at the end. I saw it in the '90s on Sundance, can't remember the name, and can't even find any synopsis about it online, which makes me wonder if I just dreamt it up.

That Alan Ball movie starring Kevin Spacey. American something, I can't think of the title and it's too awful to google.

Brokeback Mountain.

I think the movie you you are thinking if, r3, is called "The Delta". I saw it on Sundance, also.

Weren't Piccadilly Pickups those little English muffin pizzas Dear Abby used to advertise on TV?

R6, yep! That was the one.

I was taken to "Another Gay Sequel" and found it disgusting. I wish i would have walked out.

Ben & Arthur

The Another Gay Movie series is for guys who grew up during the Something About Mary and American Pie Era.

It's not really for prisspots.

I have the winner. Saw this at the gay film festival in Philly. Too shitty even for TLA or Breaking Glass Pictures.

A young waiter Sebastian, meets an older man, Max. It seems that Max has a fascination with violence and is looking to indulge his fantasy. So, when the two men meet a perfect stranger, it seems only fitting that they kill him. The two then move from feeling guilty to feeling exultation, and soon they're on the hunt for more victims to feed their rush.

Speaking of

Nothing is worse than Visions of Sugar Plums, nothing. It is terrible in virtually every respect. One of the written by, directed by and starring the same person. It has 'actors' who you wonder had ever actually acted before and the worst black drag queen in the history of cinema (a big claim, I know). Just appalling.,

[quote]It's not really for prisspots.

It was really for assholes.

R14 did the director kill himself after? No other credits

The Another Gay Movie series is for people whose sense of humor hasn't developed past middle school.

And I 1000% agree with r14 about "Vision of Sugarplums." A terrible vanity project.

Piccadilly Pickups

User Reviews This Is Not Movie But Porn 31 May 2020 | by davidsask – See all my reviews Weird artistic? People with bad accents. Lots of penis. Alexis Arquette could not have gone lower than appearance in this garbage. oh and yah a guy does blackface throughout. Zero rate.

A steaming pile of shit called "Hey, Happy!", it's sort of done in the style of a John Waters movie, but, it's unbelievably awful, possibly one of the worst movies ever made. If this movie is shown on tv, change the channel, if you can't find your remote control, throw your television set out the window.

I hated Love, Simon. The most bland movie I've ever seen, and it was advertised as groundbreaking because it was a gay coming of age film when movies like Gregg Araki's "Totally Fucked Up" et al. exist.

Are we including formerly gay movies, or just "queer" ones?

A Different Story with Meg Foster and Perry King (although I recall watching it repeatedly for the shower scene, even as a teenager I knew the movie was awful.)

From Wikipedia: Janet Maslin's original review elaborates: "The movie's use of [Albert and Stella's] homosexuality is indeed exploitative, insensitive, and offensive in a variety of ways. Even worse, it is unconvincing ... Albert's homosexuality is nothing but a gimmick, something for the screenplay to coax him out of."[1]

Moment by Moment

I totally agree with R1 - I know queer is being embraced by some, but to me it wounds.

I love horror and cheap exploitation but this was just awful

Cowboy Junction. A complete piece.of shit.

[italic]Hurricane Bianca[/italic] and the sequel. Rachel Dratch must have been about to have her electricity cut off to be involved with this bilge.

Mulligans. It was so cutesy and trite. A college aged guy falls for his friend's father (the actors are 8 years apart in age). The father suddenly realizes he is gay too and there is a lot of hand wringing and longing, all of it painfully uninteresting.

Any or all of Brent Corrigan’s “serious” movies.

Tubi and Prime Video are full of this crap, plus there's a whole streaming service (Revry) devoted to bad queer cinema.

Anything and everything on Here! At least the series Dante’s Cove and TheLair fall into the so-bad-they’re-fun category—what Sontag called unintentional camp. Thea Gill should be ashamed, but a girl’s gotta eat, I guess.

THE FLUFFER is a good movie.

Better than 90% of films about gay subjects.

Valley of the Dolls

R28 omg, yeah that movie could've been salvaged by casting an actual college aged actor to play the Lolita. Charlie David...no girl.

R3 is probably talking about the Delta.

Not terrible, just very dark. It’s about racism.

Of course I now want to see each and every one of these. For science!

Another Gay Movie has nowhere near the comedy chops of PIE or MARY, Mary.

Just because it’s ripping off those movies or that genre doesn’t mean they’re equally good.

AGM is dumb fun, but the eye candy is plentiful. At least it's dumb on purpose, unlike all the "serious" gay indies from Casper Andreas and Rob Williams. The sex scenes at the end are hot.

The sequel is just pathetic however.

How has no one mentioned An Angel Named Billy or Angora Ranch!?

For that matter, how has no one mentioned Ben & Arthur?

I watched the Mulligans a couple of weeks ago… I must admit, I watched cute guys and it had an 18+ rating. I sure was waiting on some good man on man sex. It could have been a Lifetime channel movie

R10 YES!! Ben & Arthur gets my vote. I forgot the title, I knew it was Ben something. When the attorney gets shot in the car I LOL’d , her acting reaction was terrible. The movie stank. Wasn’t this the brainchild of Michael Habboush?

Maybe not the worst but the worst mainstream one as it was so sappy. The hot male leads may have saved it a bit.

Another vote for Love, Simon. Treacle made with artifical sweetener. A nuclear blast would have improved it.

The entire Casper Andreas oeuvre of Kickstarter funded gay themed movies.

I was made aware of them via Datalounge as several of them seemed to feature former DL faves as their bait, and there was definitely some targeted marketing going down on this site.

And this guy whose photos have also been on the DL

[quote]Wasn’t this the brainchild of Michael Habboush?

It was the brainchild of writer/director/star Sam Mraovich, who decided to convert to Mormonism after making the movie.

The Toilers and the Wayfarers is the most unsexy, trite, low-budget garbage. Boring AF in B&W.

Relax! it’s Just Sex is also insufferable.

But the melodrama about the gay man raping a straight guy at the end is accidentally quite funny.

Ironic how this movie fails miserably when it’s trying to be funny, then succeeds hilariously when it’s trying to be serious.

R11 Yeah, those films don't satisfy my on a comedic level, but a few of the guys are pretty hot.

Heaven’s A Drag

“Adam & Steve” was a vanity project by actor Craig Chester with no juice.

r43 The hottest Charlie's Angel.

If you want horrible writing that’s at least worth it for the eye candy, then stick with Dante’s Cove or the Eating Out franchise.

At least they have super good taste in hot guys.

What about that Fire Island film from a few years ago with (hottie) Ramon O. Torres? A gay couple I know who have literally no taste said they couldn't finish it, it was so weak.

Anything from Breaking Glass Pics or Ariztical is garbage

I don't really know Craig Chester, but I've been around him when he had a little heat years ago. I recall thinking, "Who is this person swanning around acting like something hot?"

LIE DOWN WITH DOGS

Agreed, r57. PAINFULLY unfunny tryory.

[R57] you beat me to it. A college friend of mine was actually in that, and managed to keep his name off the IMDB credits....

This needed qualifiers added to the movie like “…trying to be a comedy” or “…featuring drag queens!”

"Ben and Arthur" is "The Room" of gay cinema. From the IMDB review page:

"I was most tickled by the casting of a flamboyantly gay actor to play the right-wing religious zealot brother. His opening scene, sitting in his immaculate apartment, stroking his kitty cat, was hilarious."

"If an auteur gives himself 2 credits before the main title and about 15 more credits before the movie starts, and the first shot shows the auteur rolling around on a bed in lycra bike shorts, it won't be a surprise to observe that said auteur has the kind of body that should never be seen in spandex. The kind of look that might be useful to a homosexual aversion therapist."

To quote Ben:

"My heart, my stomach, I mean, my LIVER, everything... it just fell right out onto the floor!"

[quote]"Ben and Arthur" is "The Room" of gay cinema

I dispute that. For as insane at The Room is, Tommy Wiseau put a lot of money into it and hired competent people to work behind the camera.

If Ben & Arthur has a straight equivalent, it's Birdemic.

DADDY. Was hard to swallow.

"Leather" - the dialogue was so embarrassingly cringeworthy that I was literally yelling at the screen. Every unflattering gay stereotype is present and this is a gay film not trying to paned to women!!!!!

All the Rage. Terrible acting and a cringe ending.

Chuck and Buck. Fuck and suck. Just awful.

All the "Eating Out" films look annoying as hell when they are advertised on streamers. If I want pure sex, I'd rather watch porn. "Stranger By the Lake" is an example of an actually good gay movie.

R66 Disagree Mike White is a genius.

All of David DeCoteau’s films are just awful. Full of eye candy, true, but nothing else in terms of a plot, good acting, decent special effects... How he was able to continue to churn out one bomb after another I’ll never understand.

Shortbus

[quote]DADDY. Was hard to swallow.

Tell me about it, r63

Dammit, I'm kind of fascinated by the sheer awfulness of Ben & Arthur.

I say BEN AND ARTHUR is the SHARTNADO of gay cinema.

I'm with r68. CHUCK AND BUCK was intriguing and well-reviewed.

My god, when Netflix was still DVD only, I rented dozens of low budget vanity films. You know, the ones written and directed by the leading man? Literally dozens of them. I believe that they were so bad that they did not make the cut to be streamed.

Anything starring Matthew Montgomery, aka Ramirez. Just painful to watch.

I hate when people use queer as gay like they're same thing.

Worst in terms of production and content was that West 40's shit on youtube. You eldergays went on and on about the teaser for this pile of shit over like 2 threads. I thought maybe it could be funny or insightful. It was horrific in every way, not an ounce of clever wit and was more like West 50's. Terrible!!!!!!

Anyone remember Peter Paige's vanity project, Say Uncle? About a gay man whose young godson moves to Japan with his parents, leaving him sad and lonely. His solution? Go to the local playgrounds by himself and play with strangers' children. He's absolutely GOBSMACKED when people are outraged. It's just messed up.

But David DeCoateau's movies are almost never about gay subjects, r69.

He may have made a bunch of videos for the gay gaze in the aughts, but there were no gay stories, characters or sex.

I can explain why he was able to churn out so many in the aughts: REGENT MEDIA WERE RIPOFF ARTISTS. Not just in the way DeCoteau always has ripped off concepts of better movies for low-budget copycats. But his producers at the time started HereTV, bought The Advocate and OUT Magazines and got a massive loan from Merrill Lynch to start a gay media empire.

The problem is, they didn't control quality of ANY of their product or distribute it in standard ways the industry distributes, so they lost a lot of money. Merrill Lynch has even accused Paul Jarchow and Alan Colichman,of embezzling the loan money and parking it in secret shell companies offshore. There's an ongoing legal battle over it

So DeCoteau benefitted from producers who just wanted to fake moviemaking, almost like the actual version of Mel Brooks' spoof THE PRODUCERS. DeCoteau got a little bit of money to make two dozen films of just hot guys walking around that California mansion in their underwear calling out, "Hello? Anybody home?"

I'm not saying DeCoteau was in on the scam — but he definitely took advantage of it and delivered the cheapest possible products with scant, repetitive plots which amounted to underwear modeling.

Unfortunately, somebody's eventually got to pay the piper in these types of Ponzi schemes and DeCoteau's gravy train at Regent Entertainment ran out.

Now he has one at the Hallmark Channel ‚— UGH!

Now back in 1998, long before DeCoteau met Jarchow or Colichman, he directed a dirt-cheap indie with gay characters called LEATHER JACKET LOVE STORY.

That was indeed, garbage.

On A Queer Day You Can See Forever.

My Sister's So Gay OWNS THIS THREAD.

Seriously, I dare anyone to post anything that's inferior to this crap.

I don't know why I hate The Living End so much, but I've watched10x shittier movies and still hate it the most.

No one cares what you and your self W&Ws think, r76.

That one with the downlow romance between the Army and Yale football players, with all the scenes in the West Point locker room, and the Yale Club in NY, and those cute guys with perfect asses and big cocks, and the silly meet cute in Oak Bluffs in Martha's Vineyard. Horrible movie.

My vote goes to " Ov vey! My son is gay"

This movie was probably everywhere for free but still no one has watched it.

Fans of bad gay cinema are amateurs until they see "Traveling To Olympia."

I know there's currently a DL thread on it extolling its alleged greatness, but my vote goes to Cruising.

Maybe because I saw it shortly after coming out, but I found it to be repellent, and on top of that I found the ending confused. (I also hated the 1960s movie The Sargent, which I had seen on TV.)

To the person who mentioned Oy Vey My Son Is Gay: check out the equally dreadful Kiss Me Guido.

FF’d OP.

Kiss Me Guido at least had a good soundtrack and a talented supporting cast. And Nick Scotti was damn nice to look at.

R90 Didn’t it have a spin off TV series as well?

Between OP and "queer film" and the arguing about Another Gay Movie up thread, I'm gonna need some of you to DIAGF or at least be permanently locked into a room where nothing but the Left Behind series plays.

Circuit.

Directed by Dirk Shafer and includes appearances by Nancy Allen and Bruce Villanch, the movie is about a guy that quits his job as a cop and moves to West Hollywood and gets involved in the circuit scene. Terrible acting, terrible film quality and terrible ending. But the guys were hot.

I actually listened to the commentary track for Circuit. Shafer mentioned that he wished he could have done a three hour cut. Eesh.

Really, including released to movie theaters and direct to DVD, there really are too many bad gay movies to pick just one piece of shit.

Sometimes it's astonishing just how bad they are. How do they get financing?

I was going to vote for 'Adam and Steve' but I forgot about all the cheap direct to DVD films I've struggled through, or gave up on and turned off. Or continued to watch just like people that can't stop watching a car accident.

r78 Wow, I forgot that Peter Paige existed...

I remember mildly enjoying Kiss Me Guido.

Why are so many movies on this list from circa 2000?

Was there a bad queer movie boom during that era?

Broken Hearts Club, hands down. A few decent attempts at performances but not an authentic moment to be had.

Another one for Love Simon. It sucked so bad I didn’t even finish it. Total waste of money.

Also the movie 1985 had so much potential but didn’t achieve what it was supposed to IMO.

And finally the movie Weekend which a Brit film which I usually adore British films but I don’t see how it got all the praise it did. It was incredibly boring and I just couldn’t get through the rest of it.

The so bad it's good/camp/cult movie I loved was Girls Will Be Girls. Basically a feature length drag show but since it was based on existing drag characters it just worked.

Making Love might get some traction here and while not perfect, it was a valiant effort, superb acting (where was Kate's Oscar nod) and I loved the Asher Brauner character; he told Claire (Kate), lady, I get angry when I get parking tickets but yeah, I'm a happy person, mostly (paraphrasing)

Matthew Camp’s SOCK JOB still lingers in total obscurity. It might be for the best.. I know one friend who saw it at the filmmaker’s apartment and said it was, “really wild.” And also “slow.” There was an interview with Matthew somewhere years ago where Matthew claims it’s basically unfinished.

What about that movie Max Emerson made, I think about sex workers, I heard that was quite awful?

R105 it was released by Breaking Glass Pics. Enough said

Is this an early candidate?

“Saturday Night Live” cast member Bowen Yang and stand-up comedian Joel Kim Booster are set to star in a modern romantic comedy called “Fire Island” that is set at Searchlight Pictures.

Andrew Ahn, the director behind the acclaimed indie “Driveways,” is directing the “unapologetic” feature that’s inspired by Jane Austen’s “Pride and Prejudice.”

“Fire Island” is set in the iconic Fire Island Pines and centers around two best friends who set out to have a legendary week-long summer vacation with the help of cheap rosé and a cadre of eclectic friends.

Booster also wrote the original screenplay. Filming will begin this summer in both New York City and Fire Island.

But props to Asian leads in a gay romantic comedy.

[quote]Sometimes it's astonishing just how bad they are. How do they get financing?

Most of them are ultra low budget or micro budget and look like they were filmed with an iPhone.

Hey, hey ,hey, the much lauded art house film Tangerine was actually filmed on iPhones, don’t shit on auteurs.

his caption on this was actually pretty funny...

Will DL being doing a worst of the worst film festival at some point based on our recommendations?

R76- WE’RE HERE WE’RE QUEER

GET USED TO IT

Victor Victoria. A horrible cringe fest, saved only a little by Leslie Ann Warren.

He's writing a gay rom com so we can add that to the list in 2023?

R51 : It's still mildly entertaining though. And actually had some kind of a budget.

I really do hate Call Me By Your Name. This review captures why I hate it better than I can express.

"Really, who doesn’t want to relive 90 minutes of that is-he/isn’t-he cat-and-mouse tension that was abandoned after high school for our own mental sanity? Is anybody really nostalgic for that pre-internet time period when everybody was still closeted because of the homophobic culture and there was no way to casually find out that the person 100ft away was gay and looking? Do people really yearn for more depictions of a culture where the homophobia was so casual it kept people from expressing their true selves? I sure didn’t want to revisit that era, and I didn’t need to see all the heterosexual sex that I have to endure in heterosexual movies all the time. Straight people, if we can’t have gay people loving it up in your movies, kindly keep your fucking out of our gay movies."

there used to be a fairly successful IGBT film festival here in town and you could get a pass and see a whole lot. I recall walking out of a couple films. usually serious drama mysteries or something like that , VERY poorly acted.

R64, Andrew Glaszek is HAWT, however.

[quote]I hate when people use queer as gay like they're same thing.

Good luck! That booze cruise left Provincetown harbor a long time ago!

"Gay" is too judgmental apparently, as it overtly excludes Trannies, and they are the reason for the season now.

The Velocity of Gary

R120

Except for the make-out scenes between Vincent D'Onofrio and Thomas Jane.

CRUISING wasn't a queer indie or from the Queer Cinema movement, which started in the 1990s, r88.

It was a major motion picture studio release in 1980 with an A-list actor and director. It was also a homophobic point of view, so gay activists have traditionally decried it. BDSM culture doesn't cause gay men to be serial killers.

I thought WEEKEND was overrated, too, r101.

I think it came from a time when major studios had abandoned queer filmmaking and many indie directors flopped and rightfully left the business. There was also a normcore appeal — people wanting to praise regular, boring guys instead of divas clamoring for attention, freaks or gorgeous types. This movie and thinking led to LOOKING at HBO.

Unlike a lot of indies, WEEEND's story holds water and doesn't do anything annoying. But it's pretty boring.

But GIRLS WILL BE GIRLS was deliberate camp, r102.

Everything they did was by design, effective and funny on-purpose. That makes it a good film. I liken it to DIE, MOMMIE, DIE! which I also loved.

This thread is talking about naive camp — filmmakers who make terrible mistakes that don't work narratively yet are funny by accident.

Yes, r105, HOOKED was a garbage vanity project from Max, who doesn't know the subject matter or have an interesting take on it.

He was shilling that shit all over DL prior to the release!

We can certainly tell ANOTHER GAY SEQUEL got barrels of money from product placements, r95, for all the lube, sex toys and condoms it shoved down our throats alongside the urine and crabs.

Some film franchises are entirely driven by product placements as nothing but ads ‚— like all those "Movie Movie" parodies by Jason Friedberg and Aaron Seltzer that nobody asked for.

Don't forget about the late 90s to mid-aughts output of one Jorge Ameer, who apparently still makes films, but no one ever hears of them or sees them. And that's a good thing.

I agree with the person above that the '90s were the decade of bad gay movies. In fact, I gave up watching any of them after seeing so many bad ones. Then in the past five years or so, there have been dozens of great ones. I just Google'd "best gay films of 2017", etc. and started watching them and they were all great!

[italic]Butch Camp,[/italic] a comedy about a gay man suffering from low self-esteem who signs up for a course in how to become more masc and confident... run by Judy Tenuta in dominatrix drag.

Windows with Talia Shire and Liz Ashley as a psycho lesbian.

R130 Whaaaaaa?! Well, I loved that kooky film. What’s bad to some is weird and funny to others.

R131. You’re right. It really is a weird little film. But it’s still baaaaaaad.

By "kooky" you mean "homophobic"

I love John Waters and came of age when he was a pop culture icon (Hairspray, Cry Baby, Serial Mom, Pecker…). However, since I had never seen his older films I decided to check them out since a few were featured on The Criterion Channel for Pride month.

Female Trouble was a subversive masterpiece I enjoyed as much as his later films (my personal fave is Serial Mom). Meanwhile, Pink Flamingos was a vile piece of shit (pun intended). I know it’s considered mandatory for LGBT people to like it, but I thought everything about it was just horrible. The acting, the plot, the scenes that were included purely for shock value…it sucked.

I'd recommend all of these free cheaply-made, self financed movies.

Almost all of them have laborious, over-written scripts.

Re "Girls Will Be Girls" -- the director crowdfunded a sequel, which was filmed several years ago, and then abandoned the project.

I was talking with Jeff Roberson (Varla Jean Merman) at a party and asked him about it. He rolled his eyes and said "I haven't heard from him in years. If you can find out anything, let me know."

R128 Agreed. The quality of most gay films have gotten progressively better in recent years.

Like from 2017 up until now gay films have really stood out more, thankfully IMO.

Gawd, I finally saw GIRLS WILL BE GIRLS and couldn't get through it. I'd heard it was campy and funny, and I like drag, but it was painful.

The minute I left the movie theater after seeing "Philadelphia" I started to really hate it. It's really not a "gay" movie, it's an "issue" movie, but it still is a giant steaming pile of shit!

Another one that got a lot of praise was the movie Parting glances. I mean like why? It was awfully boring and didn’t live up to what the film was supposed to be about which was..AIDS.

I completely disagree with the poster who did not like "The Living End". You might not get or like Gregg Araki, but his films are not the trash you find on amazon. The 90's was all about the new queer cinema was epic.

R84 if you really didn't care you would ignore the post, cuntess.

R112 Nowadays, people who call themselves "queer" are usually ugly tranny fuckers/defenders and fetishist/narcissist straight people. Just no.

You both definitely are one of these saggy ass proudly tranny fuckers/defenders. so, take my block. wasting time with people of your kind is worthless.

Go Fish (1994)

Home movies of ugly lesbians shot on cheap B&W film.

Thread closed.

Sat through this at a preview screening when I lived in Los Angeles. You had to stay through the whole film to get your "gift"

The Journey of Jared Price. Meandering, pointless garbage. Just looked up the credits and it was written and directed by the ghoul Dustin Lance Black. Yuck.

Better than Chocolate was one of the worst. Most movies made in Vancouver suck but this turd was about Vancouver. All the lezzies I know who saw it at the time hated it. The lead girl who played the girl trying to come out killed herself a few years later. She was probably ashamed of how horrible the movie was.

OP Queer?

R145 Queer is not a pejorative word when gays use it to call themselves, you clueless stupid fuck.

Pink Flamingos---God Awful and unwatchable slop.......Divine was only good in Hairspray---and even then just barely....

Lesbian movie "Clair of the Moon" makes all the above look like " Citizen Kane."

I remember when Dustin Lance Black was first announced to direct What's Wrong With Virginia, his PR team spun it as his directorial debut, conveniently forgetting that before he let Gus Van Sant fuck him to get the Milk job, he'd directed three really terrible, barely seen gay films that had been universally panned. And when Virginia was basically deemed a disaster and sat on the shelf for two years before getting a tiny contractual release, no one should have been surprised. Black can't direct traffic.

No, r141, the majority of gays have no problem referring to themselves or their culture as "queer" and there's nothing you can do about it.

You're the fringe opinion in the minority. As usual.

So fuck off and die already, you broke, unemployed coward who's been banned from every media platform except chickenshit anonymous DL.

Beatific Vision

Michael's boyfriend of 15 years Chad suddenly dies from cancer. Leaving Michael little time to grieve before Chad comes back as an "spirit" who attempts to set Michael up with a new man that he has chosen for him.

Arizona Sky

Utopians

R46 – the Mormons’ gain is also our gain

My favourite bit of Ben And Arthur is when he goes to audition to be a go-go dancer, and does his go-go dance….with no music.

Was Sock Job ever released? Either to cinemas and/or disc/streaming?

R142 Ugly lesbians LOL. Like there are any other kind. Just like saying limp-wristed effete homosexual. That'd be redundant.

I happened to see Girls Will Be Girls recently too. It had some good performances - I couldn't believe Jeffrey Roberson was not a woman - and some dreamy guys but it thought it fell apart in the climactic tv special which was grimly unfunny.

This would be a shorter thread if it were titled “Gay Movies That Were Actually Good.”

R145 We don't use it as queer has nothing to do with gay you fat smelly stupid cunt.

Speak for yourself, cunt at R150. None of the gays or lesbians in my circle likes the term 'queer' or uses it. Straight cunts who like to lecture LGB people love using the slur though.

R158 That's because you're a bunch of backward cunts who live in the past. You don't speak for anyone but yourselves.

[Quote] deliberate camp

No such thing. Deliberate? Precious at best. Camp, no.

The clip from "Ben and Arthur" at r153 is hilarious -- not just because he has to dance in street clothes to no music (and does so horribly), but the club owner has him do it in the dark and then brings up the lights when he's done. WTF?

[quote]My favourite bit of Ben And Arthur is when he goes to audition to be a go-go dancer, and does his go-go dance….with no music.

That's great.

Now, let's see your penis.

[quote]The clip from "Ben and Arthur" at [R153] is hilarious -- not just because he has to dance in street clothes to no music (and does so horribly), but the club owner has him do it in the dark and then brings up the lights when he's done. WTF?

There is SOOOOOO much WTF in the entire movie. Sam Mraovitch is like an alien come to earth trying and failing to impersonate a human being.

Go back to your tar pit, dinosaur @ r158.

Yes, intentional camp is a thing and the comedians who pull it off are brilliant.

r160 is quite dull and naive. Naively campy, even.

[quote]Nothing is worse than Visions of Sugar Plums, nothing. It is terrible in virtually every respect. One of the written by, directed by and starring the same person. It has 'actors' who you wonder had ever actually acted before and the worst black drag queen in the history of cinema (a big claim, I know). Just appalling.,

You beat me to it. I came here to mention this movie. Awful, awful, awful, and I am not hugely difficult to please.

The Journey of Natty Gann

Point Break

Nell

Whatever that movie may be or not be, the scene at R153 is funny.

Panic Room.

There are dozens of shitty gay movies made around the world every year it seems. All lousy labours of love. Some of them have a little charm. Certain countries shart out a few per year, it seems to me: Philippines and Taiwan for example. Almost every country seems to cough up one every few years and there are 195 countries. Just pick a story line and you'll find one. Love affair between a bisexual middle aged married handsome car mechanic and a young gay music student? I'm sure there must be one from Bosnia or Peru.

Straight frau bitch cunt at R164, go back to One Million Moms. Just because you are bored and want to feel special by identifying as "queer" does not give you the right to label gay and lesbian people as such, especially if they find the term a slur.

R173 STFU, Boomer dinosaur. We all have to line up and kick you in the cuntbone till you're dead.

Can we just do “worst queer” next?

The Hulu movie with Kristen Stewart.

Moonlight

Anything by Todd Verow, Shortbus, and the poster who mention Leather Jacket Lovestory was right it was badly filmed, badly acted, and made gay men look like soulless, selfish, creeps.

Here's the funniest review from some Karen about the movie Shortbus. For Karen sex can only be between a married man and woman. Oral and anal makes you not human! Jesus fuck. I liked Shortbus. Most Hollywood movies suck so the suckitude of Shortbus didn't bother me.

My professor showed this film in class today and I was disgusted! (The class is sexuality and eroticism in global perspectives) I'm an anthropology major and this class is classified as anthropology so I took it thinking it was about sexuality in different cultures.

I was totally and utterly disgusted by the sex in this film. Sex is supposed to be an intimate thing between a married man and a woman who love each other and want to show it, not public! Do not watch if you're offended by public and animalistic sex. There was even oral and anal sex in it, which to me is not human!

R179 Christ, that Karen’s in for a whole world of hurt with that major, being that she can’t put aside even the most simplistic of her own cultural and religious assumptions when studying another culture or group of people. I hope that professor uses that movie to weed people out of the program.

I actually loved Shortbus. The film has a sensivity and a tenderness that I found quite surprising. Yes, lots of sex, but also lots of love to all and everyone.

R181 I think I just read Miriam Shor has like a cameo in it, but I don’t remember that?

R182 I had to google MS, and no, sorry, also don't remember her.

There was a straight couple having sex in that orgies scene but her name is Shanti Carson .... they look a bit similar thought.

R179 lol, she took a class on SEXUALITY AND EROTICISM with thinking like that? She's a stupid bitch

I Love You Baby- A man named Marcos moves to the big city to live with and work for his aunt and uncle but also one day wants to own his own restaurant and fall in love. One day Marcos meets Daniel and the two quickly hit it off and start a relationship. One night at a karaoke club with boyfriend Daniel and friends. Marcos gets hit on the head by a disco ball while on stage. A short while later Marcos decides that he's straight and leaves Daniel for a woman. Daniel tries to get Marcos back by dressing up as a woman.

So many queer movies are like boring art school projects. Overboard with symbolism and edgy cinematography than a coherent story. Plus many put the message over the quality of writing. They'll always cast cute guys and have tons of sex and nudity. But the acting is usually poor. Too many to name here. Logo TV's movie lineup was mostly of these.

An "AIDS comedy."

"I Now Pronounce You Chuck and Larry" was stupid and not funny to me. The premise isn't offensive to me but it just sucked and for the straight fratbro crowd.

A Slice of Terror. About a bullied gay who hypnotizes his bullies & ritualistically kills them, with a pizza slicer, if I recall. To add insult to (murder) he makes the hypnotized (straight) victims make out before he murders them.

Bobby Trendy has a cameo & wears some scary-ass fright wig. Michael Habboush is in it, possibly wrote, directed, produced, casted, & provided the music for it too!

I remember the characters’ names would pop up over their heads as they died, & two characters were Oscar & Meyer.

I did think one of the guys was super hot; he was very short & I don’t remember his name, except I remember reading that he was in the Bowling for Columbine film, & had been expelled or suspended from school for wearing a kilt. Don’t ask me how or why I remember that, I certainly can’t pull it up on the internet after all this time.

R189 - that sounds wonderful! Just my kind of bad movie.

Oh! And it has Sam Mraovich in it!

Of Ben & Arthur!!

It's a must see now.

I quite like the Casper Andreas movies (Goind Down in La-La Land, Between Love and Goodbye, Velvet Tendencies, etc.), also the ones by Rob Williams (Make the Yuletide Gay, Long-Term Relationship).

The big market to support gay movies made by gay men for gay men just isn't there. It's always about appealing to the gay allies (like Fraus), too.

And on DL it's ok to start threads about how shitty gay life and gay entertainment is, because praising what you like is against everything DL stands for, apparently.

Top Gun.

In the last century I used to work on the selection committee of a gay film festival.

The complaint at the time was why didn't we pick better movies?

The truth: we were picking the best movies. You should have seen some of the shit we had to see and then rejected.

I swear to god there was a film about a man who loses his son in the woods. A dozen years later he finds the son who is some kind of teenaged feral Tarzan. The fall in love.

Did I mention this was a musical?

Not just any musical: a French musical.

And as hilariously bad as this was: Not the worst movie I saw.

R194 - that sounds great! What was it called?

Call me by your name, pedo.

I hated Kiss of the Spider Woman when it was released. Have never watched it for a second time.William Hurts's portrayal is more like a trans woman than a gay man. I argued with people (mostly straight) who thought it was beautiful.

I was taken to see Making Love (1982) by the first man I had sex with... Two mistakes.

Ben Hur.

Call Me By Your Name

Anything made by Todd Verow, Matt Riddenhoover, or John Cameron Mitchell.

Trick - 1999, with DL favorite, Tori Spelling.

I loved the first one, but the sequel Not Another Gay Movie was terrible. Mainly because it starred Perez Hilton and most of the main cast was replaced.

Amazon recommended a gay themed movie called "Complete Strangers" and the plot synopsis seemed somewhat interesting, so I decided to watch if over the weekend. Jesus, what a piece of shit this one was.

The director who cast himself as the lead has got to be one of the worst actors I've seen in a while. Every line was delivered in a monotone and his facial expressions were just comically bad making him look like he was constantly sucking on a lemon.

I kept wanting to turn it off but after having wasted 30 minutes of my time on it already I was determined to at least find out where they were going with the new boyfriend who was sorta hot in a creepy kind of way. And then the "shocking" twist in the last two seconds of the film. I guess the writer/director started with the twist and then built the rest of the meandering plot around it.

Budapest and the other filming locations in the woods looked lovely though. I'd rather have wasted my time watching one of the fluffy Don Strachey mystery movies instead.

God, what a boring and pretentious woke piece of shit review of Cmbyn at R116. The author surely is projecting when he uses word boring about hundred times in his text.

We can talk about the flaws of Cmbyn for hours, but the mimosa author being offended by Marzia’s tits as a gay version of Victorian auntie, because he wanted gay purity, is too much.

I agree about the Cmbyn being a pedofest, because Guadagnino with casting choice turned a love story between two boys from Cmbyn novel into a pederast seduction.

R172 Peru might have a gay movie, but Bosnia doesn't. It is still taboo in ex Yugoslav countries. Only Slovenians have made films of this theme. A very good Consequences. There is a good Croatian film about lesbians Nice dead girls. Serbian Pride is a good and well intended comedy about a war veteran helping in securing the first Serbian Pride out of gratitude to gay vet who saved his dog. And he gathers a group of rugged, perilous, homophobic war veterans from Croatia, Bosnia and Kosovo to help organize and secure the Pride, but there is no gay affection in film.

There was a pair of movies, one called Capital Gains (about two finance bros) and another whose title escapes me (a cop and an FBI agent team up to stop a serial killer) that while watching, I couldn't shake the feeling were based on those m/m eroticas that fraus write. Turns out, I was correct. Both books by the same woman too, I think.

Sorry, it's Capital Games.

The Serbian Parade trailer

[quote]I agree about the Cmbyn being a pedofest, because Guadagnino with casting choice turned a love story between two boys from Cmbyn novel into a pederast seduction.

Oliver is 24 in the novel R204. Hardly a "boy".

24 is still very young. Imagine a real 24 yo actor playing Oliver, what difference would it make.

Any movie that describes itself as "queer" or that "attempts to portray the LGBTQ+ community on screen" is going to be complete shit.

I was just quibbling about this film with a friend today. It’s by no means a bad film, but in A Special Day (1977), Marcello Mastroianni plays a gay man who lives next door to Sophia Loren’s long-suffering housewife, and when they bond, they just fuck.

It’s so unnecessary. 😭

[italic]Pig Hag[/italic] (2021): Depressing indie film about a miserable fat girl and her gaggle of gay friends (among them that fugly YouTuber Michael Henry).

Filipino movie Remington and the Curse of the Zombadings. A child named Remington has a knack for spotting gays and calling them out. One day Remington during a trip to a cemetery ends up insulting a grieving drag queen. So the drag queen curses Remington that he will become gay at age 21. When Remington turns 20 and he finds out about a string of homophobic murders just as the "gay curse" beings manifesting in him. So he tries to find away to break the curse.

[quote] "I totally agree with [R1] - I know queer is being embraced by some, but to me it wounds."

Same, R24. I'm "of a certain age", and can appreciate "taking back" a term, but I'm not a fan either. It's derogatory as far as I'm concerned.

[quote] "Mulligans. It was so cutesy and trite. A college aged guy falls for his friend's father (the actors are 8 years apart in age). The father suddenly realizes he is gay too and there is a lot of hand wringing and longing, all of it painfully uninteresting."

Agreed, R28! I rented this from a REDBOX, amd forgot to return it. So there's a copy on the shelf that continues to collect dust. Anyway, the actor playing dad IS hot, which made the entire thing even more depressing and anti-climactic.

I thought "Pride" was pretty awful, but then again I find Dominic West unwatchable (and, in this case, dreadfully miscast and incompetent as a gay man). To be fair, i lasted about 15 minutes.

The Jason Dottley Porn Video gave me nightmares. It was like watching a frail old man masturbate right before he catches the bus to his Chemo Appointment. It was horrifying.

Has anyone seen "Some of my Best Friends Are"....It's from the early 1970s and I never heard about it until I came across it online...Good or Bad?...Takes place in a gay bar...

R218 I liked it. I had never heard of it either but watched it on Tubi or something last year. It's bizarre and low budget but worth a watch especially given the time period since there's not a lot of gay movies from then.

Recent Filipino movie May-December-January.The closested gay guy has a crush on his straight best friend. While the straight best friend has a crush on the closeted gay guy's mother. Straight friend begins a relationship with gay best friend's single mother. Later on the gay guy's childhood medical condition once thought fixed now resurfaces but this time it's fatal. So the mother convinces her "straight" boyfriend/son's best friend to have sex with him before he dies.