Why can't 'total bottoms' learn to top?

You type like a fat total bottom who is trolling OP.

Emphasis on the FAT part.

Topping? Yuck.

Is there such a dearth of tops now that bottoms are forced to fuck each other?

[quote] Do you think there are some latent transgender issues in them?

This is an interesting question, OP. I've been seeing more and more mainstream porn where the bottom effectively takes on a completely feminine role. The top doesn't reciprocate oral, the bottom wears a jock or assess undies, never exposing his cock. I do wonder if there is an element of transplay in terms of hormones.

I do actually find total bottoms a turn off. You really enjoy the feeling of being fucked but you don’t want to give it to another? But total bottoms say well it just what I like. And I like total tops. Why do you feel only secure in your designated role?. Talk to total bottoms about this and they usually becomes defensive. Total bottoms like total tops are boring. Mix it up! Try it out. Try and truly give another man pleasure.

I don’t know. Generally, I tend to (maybe even prefer to) bottom when it comes to fucking. I have topped many times in my life. The one thing, however, is that I’m not ever going to be a cum dump type bottom. I don’t care in the least about some guy who just wants to bounce in, fuck me, and bounce out.

Why would ANYONE want to bottom?

I like lots of hot making out and just totally losing it where you can flip fuck because it's just so hot you want to be in them, in you. Prep was the key to allowing my to enjoy topping. Fucking in a plastic bag with no sensation didn't work for me but bareback does.

Being a top requires skill. You have to get it up and keep it up unless you're just a hopeless, selfish, unfit loser.

Being a bottom just require lube.

Because they want to annoy you, OP.

I can only top bb and I cum in less than a minute. That's got to be disappointing to most so I prefer to bottom. But in the last year, I've bottomed only 3 times. The pandemic really halted everything.

[reply 5] As a total bottom I will tell you I really gave it the old college try to top but when he got on all fours and asked me to fuck him, I kind of lost respect for him. I still kept going but lost my erection. I did learn though I enjoyed rimming and he liked when I did it to him. It makes me regret I never got my tongue up in my roommate's delicious hairy ass.

I really believe it’s a psychological component at play here when it comes to which one prefers the other or not.

But being vers I think displays a good amount of confidence in oneself to capture both roles and enjoy it.

Just my take is all.

Pure laziness.

[QUOTE] You just squeeze your dick in a hole and move back and forth.

What an insult to tops everywhere. It’s not that simple bruh. OP, you call yourself “vers” but you probably suck as a top (as is usually the case with versatile guys). Stick to bottoming and leave topping to the experts.

Being a bottom just require lube.

sure, hours of prep, pain during and after, ass full of cum, higher chance of HIV

Exactly. Tops can eat spicy asian takeout and be ready to fuck right after. We don't have that luxury

Bottoms are born that way and it's their predestined fate, whereas fat bottoms are wretchedly cursed. Imagine you are fucking a fridge full of rotten food.

"I’m not ever going to be a cum dump type bottom."

That's what I said!

[quote]Do you think there are some latent transgender issues in them?

No such thing.

But they could be brainwashed into thinking women are all behaviour and clothing and that being a woman has nothing to do with having a female reproductive system. So I guess if they're late for their brainwashing appointment... maybe that could make them "latent trannies"...?

Probably just self esteem issues.

>>sure, hours of prep, pain during and after, ass full of cum, higher chance of HIV

No skills required for that, although I suppose tolerance for pain is an attribute.

I agree that total bottoms are a turn off. Even though I am s total top, I won’t fuck guys who claim to be total bottoms. Just comes across as either selfish or insecure in their masculinity.

r22 do you see the hypocritical irony in what you've just said

Why can't fraus like yourself can't learn to leave this board alone OP ?

Some weird, strangely homophobic bullshit on here. What’s with the bottom shaming…and suggesting bottoms are actually trans? Total tops who refuse to fuck total bottoms? That makes no sense.

No wonder everyone is single and alone!!! You all are exhausting!

I don't trust anyone who is 100% either way, you need to know how to top to be a good bottom and you need to know how to bottom to be a good top.

R4 I think that's becoming more and more common actually - I keep seeing chastity devices and bottoms who have their cocks locked away and effectively useless and I find it a massive turn-off. It's very reductive to me. I want to fuck a man with everything that entails, not just a hole.

[quote]As a total bottom I will tell you I really gave it the old college try to top but when he got on all fours and asked me to fuck him, I kind of lost respect for him. I still kept going but lost my erection.

I could have wrote this. I feel exactly the same.

R23 No, because total bottoms have an attitude of “I am not a man” and “I just want to be fucked”; basically saying that they don’t want to do any work but want all the pleasure. Plus, a total bottom clearly wants to think of themselves as a woman. That to me shows deep mental issues.

This thread is hysterical. Literally.

I'm just seeing 4ch trolls failing to quote

[quote] You just squeeze your dick in a hole and move back and forth.

It’s so much more than that. It’s being dominant and using that dominance to make another man completely yours. That is something you innately know how to do, or it isn’t. It cannot be learned.

R30 " Plus, a total bottom clearly wants to think of themselves as a woman. That to me shows deep mental issues."

You're either a frau or a trannie, gay men don't think that way.

Latent autism actually

I've only ever been with one total top; he fucked me to a fare thee well over a 3-day weekend. Lovely. The others were all flip-fucks.

You have to be able to give and receive IMO.

R35 This makes sense to me. I think there's something to this.

You need testosterone to top. The urge to pump and dominate and squirt.

Bottoms are trans. They want to be entered like a woman.

"Total bottoms" cannot learn to top. Compare it to a person whose trying to stuff a marshmallow into a piggy bank.

Try not to get too excited watching the video.

R38 are all bottoms low t?

It just comes down to your sexual identity. I think total bottoms just like feeling taken and dominated. I think the most fulfilled bottoms know their role, accept that role, and play it. It even comes down to the type of men you’re attracted to. Total bottoms tend not to go for the twinks and fairies who seem for femme than them.

And I think total bottoms exist to make men decide who they are, sexually speaking. Some guys don’t know if they’re really gay until they either top or bottom. I’ve seen it happen with men on both sides. One guy I hooked up with years ago was this mild-mannered, soft-spoken college kid who had never been with a man before. We played around once and he enjoyed getting head, so I told him he could fuck me if he wanted. He turned into a fucking ANIMAL. Pulling my hair, slapping my ass, telling me to take his cock, literally putting me into what positions he wanted, completely wrecked my hole. He insists that was the first time he’d ever been with a man. I don’t know and don’t care. It was fucking hot.

Anyway, sometimes you need a compassionate, well-trained, submissive bottom to help you decide what it is you like. If a man presenting his ass to you is a turn off, you might need to get a few toys and some lube because you’re probably a bottom yourself. Or you’re not actually gay.

WHEW, that was hot r41.

I agree, too. I think all these bottoms who say they're verse are in denial. There is an inner peace that comes from knowing your role, accepting it, and excelling at it.

Why can't "total tops" learn to bottom?

Many seem to have erectile dysfunction, or so they say.

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[quote]Do you think there are some latent transgender issues in them?

I don't think that all bottoms want to mutilate their genitals because they hate their dick <--- Actual trannies.

Once guys start experiencing ED, it's just easy to bottom or go oral only.

Double dildos exist for a reason, R47.

R43 why would they want to? They’re in short supply and in high demand. We already have plenty of bottoms. Why not be a big fish in a small pond?

[quote] You just squeeze your dick in a hole and move back and forth

That has to be the most boring top on the planet if that's all he can do. You know, there are other moves a good top can make to spice things up.

[quote] You just squeeze your dick in a hole and move back and forth

And that's why gay porn has been so boring for the last 20 years. That's all most of those guys can do. Stick it in, move back and forth until they shoot a load.

Why should they, unless they want to? Are you the sex police, OP?

A question, and many replies, all indicating that none of the people posting have ever had human interaction with others, or had an orgasm outside of the palm of their hand.

Lol r53 I like that turn of phrase.

[quote] Prep was the key to allowing my to enjoy topping.

"Prep was the key to allowing myself to be a whore 24/7."

Who cares?

Nobody in their right mind would ever want to get fucked by a queeny bottom bitch anyway.

Total bottoms are lazy fucks.

Good bottoms do what we're told.

“Beeeeeeep” Wrong answer!!!!! These fraus need to stay off this board like seriously stop projecting what you have no personal experience about.

Bitch wanted to use my bathroom. I told her I was out of tp, but she dropped a deuce anyway. When she came out and into the meeting you could totally smell the bitch. That ain't right.

Wrong thread. I should have posted that under "Bottoms That Don't Douche".

I don't get it. Bottoms know how to tap.

Not everyone can stay hard enough to top.

Interesting question, OP.

R15 Stop making science of plain old fucking. Generations of men, our ancestors, were doing it, if not we wouldn't be there. Billions of men are still doing it. Even teenage boys. And animals. Even frogs.

Relax, it is not brain surgery.

R33 My dad is not a dominant guy, yet he made two children. You don't have to be some Dom freak, just have a healthy erection.

R66 Your dad didn’t have to get it up for another man, though.

R67 My dad isn't attracted to men. But if someone is, why not? You think you need some dominant trait to fuck a man. Not just horniness?

R68 I think you do some extent. Women are naturally submissive, or at least men see them that way. It’s different with men. You could have a guy twice your size be a proud and eager bottom. You could have a twink that’s a dominant top. Men are naturally dominant, so I think in sex gay men choose a role to play. Or at least, you need to understand power dynamics to fully appreciate sex.

I like for my partners to feel in complete control and like my mouth, cock, and ass are theirs to enjoy. I think that’s part of the reason why so many masc guys like me. I’m not super femme or anything but when it’s time to play I know my role. I know how to make a man feel like a man.

As an aside, apropos of nothing, and I mean no offense, I’ve noticed this is very true with men of color, especially black men. In my admittedly anecdotal experience it seems like gay black men are either “please Daddy break my back down” or “you’re gonna get all this dick” with little in between. I’ve known plenty of black men who are almost offended by the idea of bottoming. White men seem to be more on a spectrum and malleable.

R69 These guys, who take the idea of bottoming as an offence are damaged goods. They can look like Denzel Washington, but a sane person would stay miles away from them. If you want to be a total top be a straight man.

A man wants someone to have good time with, someone laid back, nice and warm.

I only think that sometimes total bottoms lack confidence. Look, if Harry can penetrate Meghan, anyone can do the penetration.

I think that porn very much cemented binary clichés. The latest wave of chastity play and tranny porn is only a symptom. R66, R69 exactly. I also imagine that having to compete against porn-star tops can be intimidating. You need healthy self-esteem to not look like a hulk and fuck like a jackhammer and still declare you want to top, especially if you're a little shy or inexperienced.

I don't like anal sex much anymore, but when I topped I came within a minute. That can't be fun for the bottom so I stick with oral only.

What a stupid question. Bottoms are basically just females who rarely get hard. They don't have the testosterone. Dykes have a thousand times more than most bottoms. Most dykes would smash bottoms little pussies to smithereens and they don't even have actual dicks. But they have the intention to destroy pussy bottoms.

Lol r74 🤣

I'm a greedy bottom who prefers total masciline tops, married and curious too. I never had a problem here. The type of man that wants and enjoys attention, experimentation, massages, warm baths, blowjobs and fucking a tight clean ass. I give them that attention, and that's what I like to do for them, I thoroughly enjoy it, no excuses, no apologies. :-)

^^masculine^^

The bottomless pit of a greedy bottom.

R76 has a point. Married guys, guys on the fence, really respond to that type of attention. When you make them feel like men they get super turned on. That’s how a lot of women lose their men to be honest.

Guys, these are closet cases that get tired of living a lie. Straight guys don't need that kind of attention from a man. If the wife loses them, it would be for another woman.

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Interesting thread. I've always been a total bottom. Never felt the desire to top and always felt weird trying to date another fem twink or queen, like we were sisters. I've just been attracted to muscular, dominant, masculine men who only want to top. I'm now married to one. A lot of gays wouldn't "get" our relationship or they'd think we were heteronormative or something. But one thing is for sure: we know our roles, who we are and what we want. We are not in competition with each other.

[quote]Never felt the desire to top and always felt weird trying to date another fem twink or queen, like we were sisters.

A vers masc guys is always an option, there's so many out there who give and take. I find exclusive anything a total turnoff.

I'm a bottom who tops occasionally now and it's unleashed a kind of dominance in me that I didn't know was there. But as a bottom my first thought is for bottoming and it's purely psychological... someone's inside you, in control, total submissive even if it's not a "sub" scene (which I'm not into.) I don't know why I like bottoming so much practically speaking. Most of my fucks have been terrible. Terrible. My first might as well have been a jackhammer. Painful.

[quote]Compare it to a person whose trying to

Oh, dear!

[quote]r3 Is there such a dearth of tops now that bottoms are forced to fuck each other?

No one wants to be faced with this horrifying choice.

Almost like cannibalism!

They get back there and just burst into tears.

They can’t handle having a cock. It’s mental illness

"We can put a man on the moon; I say we teach you be a Top on another man, you big fag!"

They don't want to stick their dicks in shit.

I prefer bottom, I can top but damn I cum like a fountain if you hit my spot.

I love wearing a jock when I get fucked. But I ain’t no trans!

Total tops can sure become total bottoms, though.

That bon mot, R92, was certainly worth bumping a two year old thread, R92.

Bottoms love to get with women so that they can feel OK with themselves. The part that sucks is that if the woman is not a les herself, it would be wrong to deceive her.