Marvel Star Anthony Mackie Objects to Falcon and the Winter Soldier Romance: ‘Homosexuality Has Been Exploited’

I can’t stand him. Why doesn’t he just come out (no pun intended) and say he doesn’t want to do a gay scene?

Anthony is a little problematic and I worry how he’s going to handle the media scrutiny now that he’s the new Captain America. I also don’t think he’s all that well liked

BREAKING: Homophobic black man turned off by gay stuff.

I like him much more than r3

His character was literally introduced getting cruised by Steve Rogers in a park.

Fanficcers comprise a large contingent of the dwindling fanbase for the superhero genre, and also a lucrative contingent given that they are often young people with money and time to burn. This group tend to be vocal and near-militant supporters of gay content and context in their media. Mackie is absolutely stupid not to cater to them.

Interesting and funny that Seb Stan, he of the thousand gay roles since he started in the business decades ago, chooses to say nothing on the subject.

[quote]The idea of two guys being friends and loving each other in 2021 is a problem because of the exploitation of homosexuality. It used to be guys can be friends, we can hang out, and it was cool. You would always meet your friends at the bar, you know. You can’t do that anymore, because something as pure and beautiful as homosexuality has been exploited by people who are trying to rationalize themselves.

This guy is in the wrong profession. He ought to be a PR agent for John Travolta and Henry Cavill.

Umm, Anthony Mackie's career literally started with a gay role in Rodney Evans' 2004 film Brother to Brother.

He's not wrong.

Having them hookup would have ruined the friendship - just like having Steve and Bucky hookup.

There is a place in this world for true friendship, fellowship, and brotherhood.

That wasn't the only time he has played gay R8

1. What he said was a mess.

2. It is true that two guys on a show will often be "shipped" together by fans and can't just be friends. It is okay to point that out.

3. Attacking people that write fanfic and online groups that are super into this sort of thing is stupid. Those people are part of your promotional bread and butter.

4. The show totally had moments where they were gaybaiting the audience intentionally so he shouldn't be bringing it up at all. People made up those stories and had those thoughts about the characters based upon what they saw. They literally rolled around in a field together.

He is correct.

I’ve never heard anyone call homosexuality pure and beautiful before.

If the homosexuality you’re engaging in is pure and beautiful, you’re doing it wrong.

Methinks the lady doth protest too much.

A homophobic black man? Amazing!

Maybe I should watch this show.

Any idea what he is trying to say? Gay people are trying to rationalize (?) themselves so straight guys can't be friends anymore? It's like word soup.

I don’t think he’s homophobic. He’s played multiple gay characters on screen and on stage.

It’s one thing for underground subcultures to ship Sam and Bucky, quite another to expect or demand make their characters actually something other than platonic friends or bros. The latter is a ridiculous demand for these characters

Agree, R19. While comic books used to occassionally have the words: "BECAUSE YOU DEMANDED IT!" on the cover to advertise a superhero team-up Marvel isn't going to risk putting two of their straight male heroes in a gay relationship "BECAUSE TWITTER AND TUMBLR SHIPPED IT!".

If that shit happened there'd have been Kirk/Spock eons ago, when they were being written as a couple in various zines.

Fuck off, R15. In his full quote he referred to homosexuality as beautiful.

Bucky only has love in his heart for one man: Steve Rogers.

Don't think he's homophobic, just stupid. He's played gay before as well.

Seb doesn’t mind a gay role or twelve nor does he mind pink money, but this intensity and size of this particular gay fandom might be getting a bit too close for comfort for him. Maybe he had a word with Mackie?

Remember, Stan has been glass-closeted his whole career (except that one little slip in his edgy early twenties where he admitted to ‘bisexuality’ and quickly retracted it), and he’s originally from an LGB-unfriendly country and culture. Playing gay textually or subtextually is freeing when only a few thousand people watch it, but it’s different and more exposing on this scale.

Wasn’t Anthony Mackie gay in an episode of Black Mirror? I don’t think it is homophobe shit. He just thinks trying to push for gayness in the MCU is getting sad and desperate. The fandom is a bunch of fat, blue haired non binary tards.

[bold]Not homophobic and not dumb.[/bold]

He just thinks male characters should be allowed to be loving friends AND straight. I think that's valid.

He thinks 2 male characters being friends, being trusting and open with that friendship - a platonic love - should be allowed to be JUST THAT. Not only that, it should be allowed and promoted WITHOUT people going "ooohhh they're probably gay for each other."

And because tv and movies DO now "exploit" gay relationships to an extent and tend to still have gay men be stereotypes of "feelings," having 2 straight men be compassionate towards each other "seems gay" because tv and movies still tend to be of the reactionary "no homo" mindset when it comes to male friendships.

R26 well, that’s been happening with and to lesbian relationships in media for the last decade, but of course you all laughed at that and said it was nothing to go crying to the press about. Cute, funny.

Doesn't seem very intelligent. What does he mean by "exploitation of homosexuality"? That suggests he believes that in doing so, homosexuality itself is being exploited. Does he mean "exploitation by homosexuals (and their allies)"? What's he talking about?

While I don't disagree with his statement (two guys, who share a mission, don't have to be romantically or sexually involved), it's interesting that his statement comes out after season one which was promoted and reviewed as the leads having bromance energy.

Hmmm. In any industry today, most contemporary straight male friends and coworkers make good-natured jokes about their chemistry and their ‘bromance’. Some even lean into the suggestive idea that they could be gay (for a laugh).

The fact that Mackie is shrieking defensively at media outlets about it suggests to me that there is something less platonic to hide.

You can interpret his words whatever you want, you can think he is an actor who doesn't want his character to be gay or you can think he just don't like the usual hollywood gaybaiting that leads nowhere (i think playing a character who is in the middle of a constant gaybait for the fans, teen wolf or 911 style must be incredibly uncomfortable for a gay actor).

The truth is nothing he said is wrong and only he knows the intentions of his words.

Anyway, Marvel needs gay characters way more than bromances made for fan fiction

I agree with him. I hate how people (usually woman) constantly ship fictional men who clearly aren't gay. I'd rather see actual gay stories. Plus, Marvel movies/shows are so sexless.

[quote]Some even lean into the suggestive idea that they could be gay (for a laugh).

That's the problem, R3. All those characters do it "for a laugh" because, oh gosh!! how silly and stupid it would be if they were actually gay, right? "Hahaha! It's almost like we're fags!! Hahaha! No homo!!"

That's exactly what he's talking about. How about 2 straight male characters just be loving friends WITHOUT that "joke" or without any "innuendo."

Another black homophobe. What a surprise.

Shut up

He’s right about this but his explanation makes me question his intelligence.

Anyway, isn’t the fanfic the result of lonely white blue haired young women?

[quote]it's interesting that his statement comes out after season one which was promoted and reviewed as the leads having bromance energy.

Well, it wasn't so much of a statement that came as it was that the interviewer brought it up and he responded.

It was also one of the points of his Black Mirror episode, which the interviewer also brought up to compare it with Falcon/Winter Soldier.

In his Black Mirror episode, two bros became lovers but only virtually since one of them didn't have the emotional capacity to do it in the real world. On his current show, they're just bros and they can be emotionally open with each other in some way.

As for gaybaiting TV shows with bromances:

You could be like Teen Wolf and play along with it then eventually try and shut it down, hurting fan's feelings.

Or you could be like Supernatural and lead fans on for decades until, finally one of your characters validates the fans by implying he is gay or at least bisexual (Castiel telling Dean he is in love with him!) ... right before getting killed off in a brutal way.

[quote]Anyway, isn’t the fanfic the result of lonely white blue-haired young women?

Actual articles have been written about it, R36. At one point, after a scene where he mentioned "tiger" photos on a dating app tons of articles were written in the US and the UK implying Bucky might be bisexual.

Eventually, Variety had to ask the director of the episode and she said what Mackie said:

[quote]“It’s really love, right?” she said. “They love each other — at the end. They don’t love each other at the beginning, but they come to a friendship place where they love each other. So I’m not really sensitive to masculinity as any kind of barrier between that love, or how it should manifest. I’m completely fluid when it comes to any of that. So there’s no defined sexuality to any of it. So it’s, really, I think, just affection.”

R37 that longwinded spiel could have been summed up in a word.

I feel like he knows they've been gaybaiting and that's what his "exploitation of homosexuality" comment was about, but he doesn't want to upset the studio by criticizing them, so instead he went after shippers and fanfic writers and people with an agenda, which came across as hostile at best.

The problem is that in the last decade this is not the invention of women fans, there are a clear intention from the writers, directors and sometimes even actors to make the viewer believe that there's something going on between the characters.

And when fans are dissapointed they react (generally badly) saying that you can't portray a male friendship without people interpret that as gay which is absolutely false

He's bumbling through the answer like he was hashing it out with his publicist in the car on the way to the interview. Marvel definitely coached him on talking points here that he barely hit. (FAWS director Kari Skogland got the same instructions from Marvel to walk back her previous bi-baiting, and executed a little better. But not much.)

So he's sort of correct, but I don't think he got there intentionally, and I know he can't have a coherent conversation on the topic.

Also, he's a fucking awful actor. Second season of Altered Carbon was unwatchable, mostly because of him, and yet here he is working constantly and shitting the bed with regularity, on-screen and off.

[quote]And when fans are disappointed they react (generally badly) saying that you can't portray a male friendship without people interpret that as gay which is absolutely false

That's my issue with fans and probably it's what irritates Mackie as well. It's fine if that's who fans interpret the relationships between character even though there is seemingly no rationale behind it (example: people feel Tom Hiddleston's Loki and Owen Wilson's Agent Mobius have a thing for each other). But when the romance fails to pan out -something that was only in fans' heads - they go apoplectic and say that the show was gaybaiting. Don't blame the actors or the writers for not co-signing off of something that is largely, if not completely, your own head canon.

[quote]In any industry today, most contemporary straight male friends and coworkers make good-natured jokes about their chemistry and their ‘bromance’. Some even lean into the suggestive idea that they could be gay (for a laugh).

And when they do this and the characters don't get together the fans go apeshit. This happened with Teen Wolf. After the finale of Benedict Cumberbatch's "Sherlock" fans were so distraught that Holmes and Watson didn't declare their love for each other (something the writers were clear was never going to happen) that insane fans were posting about wanting to self harm themselves.

Imagine how society will be with these deranged stupid kids. When the whole invasion of Europe by Africa is completed, these idiots will know how it is to have real problems and fight for basic survival. Their retarded queer theories and fanfics will go out of the window quickly.

R37 since the fallout from the SUPERNATURAL canonisation, most writers are being noticeably more cautious about their gay content.

[quote]When the whole invasion of Europe by Africa is completed

What the holy hell are you talking about!?!?!?

Homophobe. Typical

r46 Typical retarded zoomer seeing homophobes everywhere.

I so thought that he’d be the successor to Denzel Washington...in a way he is, with all the homophobia but none of the Oscars.

Mackie is not a homophobe. He’s had no problem playing gay characters. This was pointed out at the beginning of the thread.

Hoping Eternals showcases a great gay romance, like the actors have been hinting at.

[quote] Another black homophobe. What a surprise.

You needed to make this about race because? Bigots complaining about alleged bigotry doesn’t = a great argument. Meanwhile Mackie is kissing men on screen. Meanwhile the majority of white voters vote Republican. The Republican Party is perpetually anti gay and continues to legislate against gays. Yet, I’m sure that you don’t refer to any Republican, including your relatives and loved ones as white homophobes. Yet they are the homophobes who actually impact your life.

R51

Unfortunately, those racist bigoted conservatives have taken over this forum.

So because he played a gay character in the past he gets a free card for saying homophobic shit? You need to stop making excuses. What he said was homophobic, end of.

R49 if you pay someone handsomely enough for very easy work, you can get them to do and say and support things they might not normally. Mackie is a well-paid actor who enjoys his fame.

R42 But fans are only part responsible for this.

It's true that sometimes they ship couples that are clearly not meant to be and the show never really hinted anything, but there are a lot of cases where the ship is not casual and the show really gay baits and they do it again and again and again because the fans love that couple, but then decided the guys are really straight and piss off the fans generally in the worst possible way and even don't understand the bad fan reaction.

And what they did with Castiel was a big fuck you to the fans (even if they basically confirmed the ship).

To be honest i don't see homophobia in what Mackie said (but it's poorly expressed) but a lot of people didn't have the same reaction

We are in 2021, there's absolutely no reason for hinted gays or relationships. Not everything has to be explicit but the whole bromance specially in superhero films seems a pathetic way of their lacks of guts to have real gay characters

R42 The reason a lot of fans (not the looney ones) get outraged is the bad writing. You can show a close relationship between two men and being clear they are straight. In fact you can do the same with a straight and a gay character and show jokes and being clear they are just friends.

People reacted badly to Teen wolf because the show was totally dishonest. TW is one of those shows that are apparently gay friendly but in the end it was all gaybaiting, shirtless guys and that's all. The writer didn't even was able to put a gay character in the middle of the gang which it would have been incredibly easy.

It's pathetic that some gay writers have so much fear to upset thei straight fans of their shows that the gay characters are totally in the shadows when you have a show who was destined to straight guys like Spartacus that didn't have a problem to treat their gay characters exactly like the rest. A show when you can complain about gay deaths (you know a bad writer because when he doesn't know what to do he kills the gay character) because there was a lot of beloved straight characters with the same fate

The problem are the stupid fans. There is no gay baiting, just idiots projecting their own fantasies. For them, a conversation about the most anodine subject between to men, is an indication of love and desire between them. There are gay characters in other shows, just watch them and shut up. And why they don't make a big fuss about women in series or movies? Very curious.

This thing about representation is nuts. Lot of people is never respresented in cinema in prominent and serious roles, why not amputated superheroes or toothless superheroes? Kids these days are watching porn since they are born, and this is the problem with them. They don't know if they are women or men, gay or straight, and make everything about sex. These are characters based in comics, not hentai.

Most fans are overly invested one way or the other. Since they buy the tickets, the merch, pay the streaming fee to watch the movie / show nobody in charge dares to set boundaries (until it either gets out of hand or the cash cow is milked dry), because that could result in a backlash, getting canceled, boycott, financial loss, etc.

I'd have a lot more respect with showrunners and actors if they set things straight, so-to-speak, right away instead of letting the fans go crazy.

Sorry, I'd have a lot more respect for showrunners and actors ...

Makes you wonder about things…

Makes you wonder how retarded you have to be to project your fantasies into a slowed down video of a (most likely) innocuos conversation. I inform you that if you slow down the sound, people appears to be drunk.

I fear COBRA KAI could be headed the way of baiting in the next couple of seasons.

R57 That's not true, and i can even use a show that has a lot of diversity like 911 but it's not shy to gay bait about Buck and Eddie all the time. And it's not the fans that misconstrue everything when you make a crossover and the gay character of Lone Star things that Buck is gay too (that's fan service for the fan fiction).

Some people just don't like to be fooled.

If the writers want to portrait a friendship and a big portion of the fandom think they are a couple it's because the writing is bad (or it's intentional).

And Bucky is character written to not be clear about his sexuality, so it's not that rare that some people thought they could be a couple (this is not a Spock/Captain Kirk situation)

Half the show was about him being black, there's no place for those filthy homosexual things.

Most of the posters on this thread live in a fantasy world where what an actor does on screen reflects his personal opinions.

Macky may very well be a homophobe (especially considering its prevalence in the Black community). He's also an actor doing his job because he has bills to pay.

^^^ Mackie ^^^

[quote] Bucky is character written to not be clear about his sexuality

True. The ‘is Bucky gay’? argument originates back to the mid-20th Century. Like the Robin mantle for Batman, the character/alias of Bucky Barnes has always carried a slight homosexual connotation.

And, if you watch the very first Captain America film by Marvel (2010-2011, iirc?), a casual viewer not even looking for it can catch several moments of Stan’s Bucky looking at Steve with lust in his eyes. Notice in particular the final third of the film, when newly buff Steve rescues Bucky from Red Skull. This could easily be chalked up to bad acting and misfired chemistry, poor blocking and editing, or vague writing as much as anything deliberate, but when it happens many times and catches the attention of many thousands of people...well.

What is unclear is why this subtext can become so prevalent. Arguably, a genre film with popular source material will not need to bait in order to attract fans and sell them product. Further, as others have said, actors & writers do no have control over the end cut of a movie; that lies in the hands of directors, editors, and execs. So who lets this subtext pass, and why? Perhaps then, referring back to my first point, certain genre of film carry an intrinsic and inevitable homosexual connotation—I’m thinking of Westerns, slashers, and period teen films as well as superhero movies. It’s as good an explanation as any.

All this I say as a non-Marvel fan who hasn’t bothered keeping up with the movies (THE FIRST AVENGER is the only MCU film I enjoyed seeing and would ever rewatch), and as someone not at all interested in shipping comic book characters (soccer players, though, that’s a different story). If subtext is there, then it’s there—but perhaps it doesn’t matter why or how.

Not crazy about him but agree that it seems like pandering which is what I think he means.

This thread is taking me back to being a teen in the early 2010s, feeling so excited that my gay-adjacent cult favourite actor Sebastian was playing one of my favourite comic-book characters and getting a shot at the big-time. I still get a little teary and tense watching Bucky fall from the train, and no other ‘tragic’ or ‘epic’ moment from the MCU really matches the simple shock and tragedy of watching a friend ‘die’ in a warzone needs little embellishment—except maybe Pietro/Quicksilver’s needless death in AGE OF ULTRON.

By contrast, I sat completely unmoved through CIVIL WAR, ENDGAME, and several episodes of WANDAVISION. Once space aliens and enormous secrets agencies and ancient time-travellers get involved all at once, the fun is sucked out of everything and the movie becomes exhausting and tedious.

No other Marvel film is as fun, detailed, well-realised or as emotionally accessible as THE FIRST AVENGER, in my opinion. That was the right foot to start out on—too bad the subsequent films didn’t follow suit. When it comes to superhumanity wibble, the X-Men movies for all their flaws have more to offer.

I think he has a massive hard-on for Stan and is acting all weirdly and verbosely defensive because he realizes it's so predominant in him that it's showing through all the time. His "can't a bro just be a bro without the gay shit" is still homophobic no matter how many roles he's played gay in. He's either internally homophobic or externally homphobic.

Has he ever addressed the decided lack of gay characters in over a decade of Marvel movies or are his comments about homosexuality restricted to why it shouldn't be around, especially in his show because, ya know, we want it to remain all pure and shit? I know you all hate Brie Larson but at least she's been vocal about how shitty the lack of gay characters in Marvel has been.

[quote]Macky may very well be a homophobe (especially considering its prevalence in the Black community). He's also an actor doing his job because he has bills to pay.

He's so homophobic that he's played gay before ...

Followed by the black people hate gays.

Just shut up.

What the hell is going on with this board!?!? It's just every single thread.

[quote]And, if you watch the very first Captain America film by Marvel (2010-2011, iirc?), a casual viewer not even looking for it can catch several moments of Stan’s Bucky looking at Steve with lust in his eyes. Notice in particular the final third of the film, when newly buff Steve rescues Bucky from Red Skull. This could easily be chalked up to bad acting and misfired chemistry, poor blocking and editing, or vague writing as much as anything deliberate, but when it happens many times and catches the attention of many thousands of people...well.

This isn't me attacking you but I watched it too and I saw absolutely none of this. I think this relates to the point Mackie is trying to make. I just thought Captain America and Bucky were long time, friends and he looks at him that way because he admires him or because he's close to him and they're great friends.

I took what I saw at face value and didn't read anything into it and that's what they want us to do but they have no control over how people feel about what is written.

Blah blah blah, the moment there is two male actors sharing screen time, zoomers think they are gay. Case closed. Heterosexual men have male friends too. You missread everything and throw the toys out of the pram when you don't have the sex or romance scene you have built in your imagination.

Despite Julliard and media training, he always comes off as dim and inarticulate. The MCU deserves better.

“ It's fine if that's who fans interpret the relationships between character even though there is seemingly no rationale behind it (example: people feel Tom Hiddleston's Loki and Owen Wilson's Agent Mobius have a thing for each other). But when the romance fails to pan out -something that was only in fans' heads - they go apoplectic and say that the show was gaybaiting. Don't blame the actors or the writers for not co-signing off of something that is largely, if not completely, your own head canon.”

THIS👏🏾

R72, it does not happen every time two men share screentime. What an idiotic statement considering practically every movie or tv show made has two or more men sharing the screen constantly with no romantic chemistry every being discussed. Obviously, there is some other type of chemistry beyond "bros" that is being picked up on here.

R5 R8 The word “literally” is unnecessary in your posts.

R72 It's funny how some of you are able to deny the obvious (i'm pretty sure most of you are not even gay).

Hollywood did this from the very beginning (that has some sense because you can't show homosexuality on screen). There are a lot of male frienship on screen that nobody mistake for anything else, if so many people see more than a friendship maybe it's because the writers want them to see that no matter how much you deny it.

And in some cases it was teased and promoted (to retract lately)

[quote]He just thinks male characters should be allowed to be loving friends AND straight.

Oh, WHEN will Hollywood allow men to be buddies openly on film? It's tragic the way heterosexuality can't be expressed.

No, maybe the writers don’t have the myopic notion that male friendships shouldn’t feature passionate affection. It’s oppressive and erroneous to think men can’t be affectionate and intense with each in a strictly platonic manner, outside of biological family.

R79 You insist in the same shit again and again and again

Take your meds r80

R81 You are ridiculous pretending everybody see what they want to see

This kid seems to have the MCU/ Bucky/Sam thing all figured out

Conclussion: zoomers don't fuck and all their relationships are imaginary... well, not even "their" relationhips, but the ones of the straight characters they ship thinking they are gay.

R84: The safest sex is imaginary sex where fictional characters stand in for you/a partner. When the writers/characters/actors/storyline fail to cooperate --or worse, they state the "reality" that you've constructed didn't exist and never will -- meltdown city!

You know, I don’t believe parasociality is the entire problem here; nor do I believe that parasociality is the civilisation-wrecking bugbear it’s being made it to be.

Superhero movies are so dull, I really don't get the crazed fancunts that they gain. And these shipping things are done mostly by white fat girls with blue hair. It's pretty embarrassing, I can see why mcu actors would want to distance themselves of these water goblins.

Author C. S. Lewis once remarked that “those who cannot conceive Friendship as a substantive love but only as a disguise or elaboration of Eros betray the fact that they have never had a Friend.”

[Quote] You could be like Teen Wolf and play along with it then eventually try and shut it down, hurting fan's feelings

Anyone who actually watched the show knew nothing was going to happen and that the characters weren't gay.

[Quote] Or you could be like Supernatural and lead fans on for decades until, finally one of your characters validates the fans by implying he is gay or at least bisexual (Castiel telling Dean he is in love with him!) ... right before getting killed off in a brutal way.

Ah yes, the same show that outright made fun of shippers multiple times and always treated Destiel as a joke. And Castiel saying "I love you" doesn't equal coming out.

He uses the English language about as well as T.I.

This is simply word salad to say that he is homophobic. A homophobic black man - shocking. We are elevating these homophobic criminals to the determent of everybody else. Why on earth would anyone support BLM who is gay or Jewish?

Ah yes R91, gays and Jewish people should support blacks being shot by cops, well done you

R88 C.S. Lewis was a Christian apologetics nut.

I get what the guy is saying...but he clearly doesn't know how to articulate it. He could have said this without coming off homophobic.

He could have just said 'well, it's not canon, but if it makes you happy, enjoy. We're just here to entertain you".

If this gets him that defensive...something else is going on.

He’s not homophobic. What he means is that these characters aren’t actually gay despite the shipping and that it diminishes real gay relationships, and does promote toxic masculinity, cause guys can’t be too close without fucking each other, apparently.

Basically, he is agreeing with us about the baiting BS (which is on Disney and these other studies). He just didn’t do the best job of explaining (probably to not piss off Disney).

*studios

He is correct. Let friendship be pure. Stop injecting sexuality into Platonic friendships. Learn boundaries, even in fiction

I bet the Eternals real gay relationship (Phastos and his husband) won’t get the same attention from these shippers putting 2 straight characters together. That’s why Anthony Mackie is right on this one. Real gay characters/relationships end up getting the short end of the stick.

And he has played gay before so that is not an issue. A real gay character.

A homophobic black man. This is so disappointing

Agree, R98. Their characters won't get as much attention because a lot of those fraus fetishize homosexuality and homosex (or in this case, two characters they threw hissy fits about not being homosexual or engaging in homosex in canon). It's not as much fun to fetishize an established relationship. Too adult, not enough "wooby" and "cinnamon roll too pure for this world" bullshit. "Adulting" and real adult relationships aren't interesting to them.

R100 it's not just fraus that act like that.

Captain American is white not black so if we can believe he's black, why can't we believe the bromance is gay,

Mackie comes across as an idiot in interviews. He should stick to scripts.

R102

Fucking troll.

Eight point zero

[quote]Captain American is white not black so if we can believe he's black, why can't we believe the bromance is gay,

Wrong again, r102.

- Sam Wilson, The Falcon, became Captain America in the Marvel comics. In his backstory, Sam Wilson was black - and has always been so.

- Samantha Wilson Is The Captain America Of Earth-65 - a black woman.

- Roberta Mendez Used Advanced Technology As The Captain America Of 2099

- Danielle Cage Is Luke Cage & Jessica Jones' Daughter Who Becomes Captain America In Her Future

Personally, I prefer that Falcon and Winter Soldier be best friends - the kind that you'd do anything for, including sacrificing yourself. True friendship is so often lacking in the world today.

He’s right. Think about it. Rhoda and Joe married and it ruined the show. And BTW Anthony, you’re Rhoda.

Who? Speak English dude

He’s completely right about this, but expressed it awkwardly

He is correct

I want to breed Anthony Mackie’s ass.

Oh dang

[Quote] but expressed it awkwardly

I don't think there's a way he could have mentioned this without someone taking it the wrong way.

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