Ingrid Bergman was a better actress than both Bette Davis and Katherine Hepburn

Hi, Isabella. No matter how many Ingrid threads you start, on DL, they won't bring her back.

Ingrid Bergman better than Hepburn or Davis?

ABSOLUTELY not.

She was a HARLOT!

Those 3 humans are not alike. Why does one have to be "better" than the other? Why can't we just appreciate their acting abilities without comparing apples to oranges?

Ingrid Bergman would not have been a good fit for "Breakfast at Tiffany's", Hepburn would not have been a good fit for "Spellbound", and neither one of them would have been a fit for "What Happened to Baby Jane".

And only one could do Golda Meir!

[quote]Ingrid Bergman better than Hepburn or Davis?

Perhaps at being a whore who cheated on her husband and got pregnant.

Ingrid was unable to do American accents.

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[QUOTE]Ingrid Bergman would not have been a good fit for "Breakfast at Tiffany's"

Oh, dear

Ingrid in a rare reel of CASABLANCA alternate ending

Ingrid was much better than mother-daughter duo Katharine and Audrey.

She was far more beautiful, but certainly not a better actress. Better than Hepburn? HA! Hepburn and Davis are the grand dames of classic Hollywood acting.

R10, why? What am I missing?

The remake was far superior, r11.

I could never decide if I like Katherine Hepburn the person and don't think much of her acting, or the reverse. I think its the former. In person she was an amusing bitch. Her acting, above a young age, was pretentious yet hammy.

This is a master class in film acting, r16.

r14 Assuming you are serious, Audrey wants to have a talk with you.

R14, it was Katherine Hepburn being discussed, not Audrey ;)

I don't know why daughters of famous film stars want to follow in their mother's footsteps, it reeks of nepotism and it never works. Audrey was pretty and had her mother's aristocratic allure, but she never did anything close to THE PHILADELPHIA STORY in comedy, or LONG DAY'S JOURNEY INTO NIGHT in drama. Elizabeth Taylor was no Vivien, and not even as popular or enduring as Robert, even though she had the better of both in looks. Same, with Jane Fonda, Liza , Jaimie Lee et all. Find you own path ladies (same goes for boys)

I SHOULD HAVE BEEN NOMINATED IN THE LEADING ACTRESS CATEGORY

Bergman never does anything for me and I don't find her beautiful. What's the allure?

I don’t know r22. I feel the same way about Dietrich and Garbo.

She had hips to give birth to bunches of little vikings, and strength to make them survive the harsh Nebraska winters in 1940's middle America

Wasn’t she responsible for women letting their eyebrows grow in? After years of tweezing them, Ingrid’s natural brows became all the rage.

It's interesting that Audrey Hepburn never wrote a "Mommie Dearest" book about her mother Katharine.

Did money change hands?

Ingrid was no Lana

Ingrid was not well served by her association with Selznick. He basically farmed her out to other studios at a big markup over the salary he paid her. As a result, she ended up in a variety of films, some very good, some mediocre. Bergman herself was not an especially ambitious actress, and was content to work under the terms of her Selznick contract. I think one of her best American performances was in her first US film, Intermezzo (1939), which was a remake of a film she had made in Sweden a couple of years earlier.

You can understand why audiences were captivated by her natural, non-glamor girl beauty and her glowing performance. She really was a breath of fresh air compared to most studio-bred stars.

The full film is available on YouTube:

R26 Money didn't need to change hands, Katharine Hepburn was born in a wealthy east coast family she didn't earn her fortune through acting only, and Audrey was raised with a silver spoon. Katharine being away working was probably her best gift to little Audrey anyway

But OP, she was no better than Sophia

in the rare interviews where Audrey evokes her childhood, she speaks very fondly of how, after watching her mother looking like a cellluloid princess in her scintillating comedies, she would roam momma's closet, don her oversized cloths, and pretend for hours in front of the mirror, that she was a butch lumberjack in the New England wilderness

R7 = Vivien

R14, oh dear to me. Going to sleep now.

Hedda is such a pill, but Ingrid at least brings her standard luminosity to the role.

ar thz ol timey dead peeps?

I have never read anything about anyone being friends with Bergman, or being invited to stay at her place, or being at a party with her. She seems to have been strictly business. Made sure she fucked her co-star /director (by Coop : never was a woman more in love than Ingrid. The minute we finished the movie, she didn't return my phone calls), always very serious in interviews. The only notion that she was somehow a human being comes from Tab Hunter, who writes that they met at the Raphaël in Paris, and she invited him to see her show...

But how does she compare to Katharine (with an A) Hepburn?

in terms of being friendly, KH tried to salvage Monty, Garland, and Vivien, and def had plenty of close friends. Acting wise ? They were both hams with MOVIE STAR personas, phony AF. Bergman had ton of facial expression to sell per minute, she was very sexy, beautiful, seemed to act with her heart, Hepburn was cerebral, could be a damn good actress, but had terrible vocas mannerisms. Apples and oranges. Let's say that Bergman could do almost everything Bacall did, and vice versa. Bacall could do nothing Hepburn did. Loren could do everything Bergman did, the reverse is not true. I think Hepburn was the better actress of the two. She could have played almost all Bergman's roles. Davis is swallowing them all. Nothing compares to Davis at her best, except ffor Vivien leigh at her best (streetcar). IMO