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Why are people suddenly irked by Lin Manuel Miranda? It's because they're beginning to pick up on the truth - he is a WHORE

I'm not talking about his rampant overexposure, but the fact that he represents a very unique kind of American whoredom - the Race Whore. I came to this conclusion because of a lyric in 96,000 which unsettled me, where the black characters says he's going to make Tiger Woods his caddy. This is a really racist line to give to a black character who is supposed to be a protagonist - and I'm not someone who likes Tiger Woods as a person. But as a dark-skinned person (much darked than LMM) for Tiger Woods to be suddenly equated to being a caddy to me, would be the equivalent of say, Ryan Murphy writing a line for one of his protagonists in which she says she wants to make Viola Davis her maid.

So basically Lin Manuel Miranda's schtick is that he is selling himself as some kind of benign postracialist, when he himself is profoundly racist. And by selling, I do mean literally selling - he makes a ton of money and his career is basically based on him being some kind of arbitrer of racial sensitivity and enlightenment (remember he signed that ridiculous WE SEE YOU manifesto). And I think people are beginning to pick up on that, even if it's not PC to publicly articulate it like that.

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by Anonymousreply 23June 18, 2021 2:07 PM

It's simply that social media has unleashed mobs on both the right and left. This is what the left side does, destroy people for minor infractions which change and grow daily. The right wing mob creates and believes in insane anti-democratic conspiracy theories. The right is more directly dangerous but the left is damaging the culture and feeding the right's base by providing it with "justification" for its beliefs.

by Anonymousreply 1June 17, 2021 12:14 PM

It's not exactly a perfect analogy because LMM does not have a reputation for being a bully, but Joss Whedon was someone who was also selling himself as a feminist ally but even before the bullying was out in the open as it is now, people were picking up on his phoniness even if they couldn't directly call him out as a hypocrite.

by Anonymousreply 2June 17, 2021 12:16 PM

Guess what, Op?!

NO ONE CARES!

by Anonymousreply 3June 17, 2021 12:18 PM

No, I don't think that. I think Miranda's intentions - and I say this with utter indifference to his plaintive sincerity, the noisy Hamilton, and whatever the hell The Heights was about - are good intentions and he has done things through his art to advance ideas and representations that are important in society and to many people individually. I think he missed the mark with his latest film and was excessive in his self-flagellation when hunted down for it, but even then, he was trying to support diversity rather than deny it. Basically, he means well, tries hard and produces results. I think you missed the mark by interpreting Tiger Woods as a lyrical caddy as some racist trope, rather than a picture of the powerful humbled, though to be entirely honest, I haven't given the matter as much thought as you and I hope, I do, the resulting squint isn't permanent.

But in short, I think your opinion is much more problematic than anything Miranda has done. You seem to seek to turn an ally, to use that cloying term, into an enemy. But that's the beauty of a free society and free speech. It entitles us all to say things that can make us look the opposite of what we would wish. Fortunately, we are free to later say things that might change that outcome.

by Anonymousreply 4June 17, 2021 12:20 PM

OP is a Man 6.

by Anonymousreply 5June 17, 2021 12:20 PM

I'm not a fan of social media dogpiling but I do think it's interesting in that how unspoken sentiments will suddenly gain traction through social media and have the effect that it's having now - harming LMM's well-oiled career.

Awful film but F Murray Abraham has a great line in Bonfire of the Vanities where he says 'Yesterday I was a respected Jewish liberal. Ten minutes of news like this and all of sudden I'm a hymie racist pig?' And that's what we're seeing right now with social media. I'm not saying it's fair, but it is a thing that exists that should be examined.

by Anonymousreply 6June 17, 2021 12:24 PM

Everyone needs to get the fuck off Twitter.

Disclaimer; I'm on Twitter.

by Anonymousreply 7June 17, 2021 12:26 PM

What’s coming to light is that the emperor has no clothes. Nothing more, nothing less.

by Anonymousreply 8June 17, 2021 12:27 PM

“We have a generation of young people on social media so terrified of having the wrong opinions that they have robbed themselves of the opportunity to think and to learn and to grow,” she argues. “The assumption of good faith is dead. What matters is not goodness but the appearance of goodness.”

“In certain young people today like these two from my writing workshop,” she notes. “I find a cold-blooded grasping; a massive sense of entitlement; an inability to show gratitude; an unrealistic expectation of puritanism from others; [and] a passionate performance of virtue that is well executed in the public space of Twitter but not in the intimate space of friendship... People wield the words ‘violence’ and ‘weaponize’ like tarnished pitchforks. People depend on obfuscation, who have no compassion for anybody genuinely curious or confused.”

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by Anonymousreply 9June 17, 2021 12:27 PM

OK this is interesting

The line was originally that he’s doing to make DONALD TRUMP his caddy in the OBC

So LMM/John Chu/whatever actually MADE the line more offensive for the movie.

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by Anonymousreply 10June 18, 2021 11:39 AM

You would have thought they would have stuck with the Donald Trump line given the developments of the past ten years since the original Broadway production. Were they afraid of offending Trump? Turning off deplorables? I don't think they were the target audience in the first place.

Curious to the reason behind such a seemingly unnecessary change.

by Anonymousreply 11June 18, 2021 11:48 AM

Just another twitter mob that the real media is giving legitimacy to like the one against Ellen. It always happens to white and Latino people, never to black people.

by Anonymousreply 12June 18, 2021 12:39 PM

If he changed it to avoid defending the deploreables, then he really is a piece of shit.

by Anonymousreply 13June 18, 2021 12:44 PM

We've always had celebrities who were a huge phenomenon for a few years and then quickly fell out of favor. This isn't anything new. You could see it coming from space with LMM as people started grumbling a few years ago about how overexposed he was, and how grating his overly positive (and very affected) persona was.

Personally I'd beware anyone who tries to say he is the victim of cancel culture, because he's more a victim of his own limited talent and one-note personality.

by Anonymousreply 14June 18, 2021 12:55 PM

Lin-Manuel Miranda is a narcissist. His work isn't about anything except promoting Lin-Manuel Miranda. He plays with an eclectic mix of current ideas and issues, but his organizing principle is not social justice, or racial equality. His organizing principle is Lin-Manuel Miranda. And he came along at a propitious time to be a young Latino in show biz. Had he come along 30 years ago... nada. He's also not so very much from the 'hood as he tacitly allows people to believe he is. That's the beginning of his inauthenticity.

Lorraine Hansberry, August Wilson, James Baldwin, Ntozake Shange, and many, many, other important artists who were not white never achieved any sort of success comparable to Miranda's. But they wrote substantively about social justice and racial equality and we respect them. Miranda is just slick and we don't respect him because of it. We don't respect him and we resent him his success.

All that money makes him easy to resent. Now would be a good time for him to go back to being an artist. But he never really was an artist. He's a promoter.

by Anonymousreply 15June 18, 2021 12:58 PM

Who is the "we" here that resents him? I don't disagree his persona is grating but he created entertainment that was a commercial success. That requires broad appeal. That's never going to change.

by Anonymousreply 16June 18, 2021 1:18 PM

[quote]...he created entertainment that was a commercial success.

Then. Not now. He created these works on his way up. Before he was over-exposed. Before he was a Disney star.

by Anonymousreply 17June 18, 2021 1:21 PM

I think Hamilton is still printing money the world over. Or will be once we can breathe in the same place again. You're pissing into the wind about Miranda. He has achieved exactly what he and the system intended. If you want artistic purity, go to a fringe festival and watch something pure and forgettable.

by Anonymousreply 18June 18, 2021 1:32 PM

The woke: the 21st century equivalent of a lynch mob.

by Anonymousreply 19June 18, 2021 1:40 PM

[quote]But as a dark-skinned person (much darked than LMM) for Tiger Woods to be suddenly equated to being a caddy to me,

Absolutely bizarre..

by Anonymousreply 20June 18, 2021 1:41 PM

Just found out that the late Toni Morrison hated his Broadway play Hamilton...

by Anonymousreply 21June 18, 2021 1:52 PM

Give me the name of another current golfer. Phil Mickelson? Jordan Spieth? How many people would recognize them more than Tiger Woods? Could they have chosen Tiger because, I don't know, maybe there is no other golfer as well-known as he is? I doubt that his race even entered into consideration when they decided to change the lyric from Donald Trump. Now, why they chose to change the lyrics at all is a more intriguing question for me. Did they do it to appease the Deplorables? Did they do it to avoid the backlash that would inevitably come? As it turned out, it was all for naught. Because a different backlash came anyway. That's the nature of today's culture. Nothing will ever be good enough or right enough or pure enough. Artists should just accept that fact. And we should just accept that our culture is slowly being killed under the guise of being protected.

by Anonymousreply 22June 18, 2021 1:55 PM

His explanation for changing to Tiger Woods doesn't make sense. Originally he had intended the lyric to be about a rich "Monopoly man" type person who had everything he owned in gold, which makes sense for the line about him being his caddy, meaning he's so rich that even billionaires are gonna be his caddy. Changing it to Tiger Woods changes it to basically saying "I'm so rich even famous golfers are gonna be my caddies" and that's a whole other dynamic.

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by Anonymousreply 23June 18, 2021 2:07 PM
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