Senate passes bill to establish Juneteenth as a national holiday

I'm actually shocked by this.

Republicans are usually NEVER on board with anything to do with recognizing black people.

I don't think they could've blocked it.

Wow

This is great

I'm always in favor of another paid day off.

Don't we already have a holiday in June?

No, Memorial Day in May and July 4th.

Thanks, R6.

June 19 is awfully close to July 4.

It would be a perfect way to bookend a two-week vacation!

[quote] Don't we already have a holiday in June?

Yes. June 15th is also National Bug Busting Day, Nature Photography Day, and World Elder Abuse Awareness Day.

Is this the only holiday that marks the end of the civil war? It’s shocking it’s taken so long.

We just celebrated Flag Day yesterday.

What am I, chopped liver?

r9, how do you think Memorial Day started? It commemorates the most important thing about the Civil War, which is the sacrifice by so many soldiers to end slavery.

What national holidays do we have strictly for other races?

This hits right up against gay pride week.

[quote] This hits right up against gay pride week.

I wonder if the date was chosen on purpose, to make it sort of an all-encompassing civil rights type of holiday?

[quote]I wonder if the date was chosen on purpose, to make it sort of an all-encompassing civil rights type of holiday?

That's what Martin Luther King Day is supposed to be about.

no, r15, I think it was chosen because Juneteenth has a long history, way before Stonewall, and it was a black people's holiday pretty much invented by black people. Gay pride can still happen just as much. Two separate tracks that don't really intersect.

[quote] What national holidays do we have strictly for other races?

There is no meaningful White Guilt for other races.

I had NEVER heard of Juneteenth until BLM marched through it in 2020! I'm from California where slavery never had a presence, so I'm assuming that's why we've never heard of it out west. But, I'll take the day off work if the US Senate insists!

Same here, R19.

Never heard of it until 2020.

Kind of sad, don't you think?

Now, we need federal holidays in March, April, and August

As a gay POC Im thrilled. So perfect that its right in the middle of pride month. Im glad people who never heard about it now know. I read about Juneteeth when I was bookworm kid who devoured books about black history. I never thought it would make it to the national stage and here we are.

Don't they have enough holidays already?

[quote] What national holidays do we have strictly for other races?

MLK Day

[quote] What national holidays do we have strictly for other races?

Columbus Day.

You know, the one that celebrates a genocidal, disease carrying invader from Europe?

It’s great to have another holiday, and to memorialize the end of slavery, but why does it have to have that idiotic name?

I agree, R26.

Emancipation Day would have been a better name.

Plus, any excuse to expand a person's vocabulary is a good thing.

Civil, Labor and Human Rights are important. Moreover, Americans need more PAID Vacation Days, more days off. This is a good thing, any way you look at it.

Thrilled about the holiday, really don't like the name though. It kind of trivializes the meaning and importance of day. jmo.

There are African-Americans who are also LGBT. HELLO!

Who's writing all these stupid comments, Russian Trolls? I mean really.

It is June 19th because on June 19th, 1865 General Gordon Grant arrived in Galveston, TX to take control of Federal Troops and enforce the Emancipation Proclamation.

Juneteenth is a portmanteau of June and 19th. It has been called that for over 100 years. None of this was just made up for a holiday. Juneteenth has a long history that most white people in America are never taught.

Personally, I never learned about it until 1998 when I was 28 and moved into my place which is a couple of blocks from where the yearly festival is held.

CAN WE SUDDENLY HAVE IT THIS YEAR?

[quote]It kind of trivializes the meaning and importance of day. jmo.

r26 and r29 it doesn't. Nobody in the south was saying "June Nineteenth" in the 1865, especially slaves. The point of the holiday is to commemorate and memorialize the actual people it was for, the name doesn't need to be whitewashed like everything else. The fact that the day itself is just on the verge of becoming a holiday and known to many is the result of whitewashing American history. It would be like renaming Yom Kippur to something generic if it was a national recognized American holiday.

Yes, we understand that, r26. It doesn’t make “Juneteenth” any less idiotic. I don’t care if people have been saying it from the time of Olduvai Gorge.

R33 it’s dumb, end of. Just give it up already.

Was Christmas called Decembth? That’s nice. NOPE.

R33- Thank you for explaining that to us. I can't believe that did not know this until a year ago.

r35 you just give it up already. Calling a historical date idiotic because your small brain cannot wrap your mind around regional dialects that birthed it is the idiotic thing to me. But Im sure you will gladly enjoy the holiday anyway when the bill is passed. This I hope you understand: FUCK YOU

[quote]This hits right up against gay pride week.

It’s all about stickin’ to the gays.

[quote] There are African-Americans who are also LGBT.

I think they’d disagree with you.

[quote]Kind of sad, don't you think?

That’s what makes it so fucking stupid. I’m tired of all this woke garbage. But that’s okay—I’ll respond in the voting booth next year.

I think the best joke about such holidays was one by Chris Rock talking about McCain/AZ being against the MLK holiday "You've got to be really racist to turn down a day off."

[quote]You've got to be really racist to turn down a day off."

🙄

[quote] really don't like the name though. It kind of trivializes the meaning and importance of day. jmo.

True. Do we really want to use a name that sounds like something made up by Jim and Huckleberry Finn?

R42, I'm sorry it's not Larry the Cable Guy, you stupid fuck.

[quote]I'm sorry it's not Larry the Cable Guy, you stupid fuck.

🙄

[quote] I think the best joke about such holidays was one by Chris Rock talking about McCain/AZ being against the MLK holiday "You've got to be really racist to turn down a day off."

Except when you don’t get paid for taking the day off. Or you have to work it anyway because you have a job in retail, entertainment, food service, hospitality, healthcare, fire and police work, etc.

[quote] This hits right up against gay pride week.

And don't think that wasn't on purpose.

It was R47.

Juneteenth has existed since 1865. Only now was it made into an official holiday, so WTF are you idiots even implying?

I love how this shit is a thing all of a sudden. I love it. There’s a Republican challenging Whitmer here in Michigan who wants to cancel all these “celebratory” months. I voted for her, but probably not again. He seems enticing though I won’t vote Republican. But I like his message.

r50 I can see why you'd want to cancel anything celebratory...living a shithole life in Michigan does that to a person

[quote] I can see why you'd want to cancel anything celebratory...living a shithole life in Michigan does that to a person

I know! Good luck, Democrats.

Right, R47. General Granger purposely waited until the 19th of June 1865 to announce to the slaves in Galveston that they were free just to fuck over Pride.

[quote] This hits right up against gay pride week. I wonder if the date was chosen on purpose, to make it sort of an all-encompassing civil rights type of holiday?

OMG you can’t be fuck’n serious. Yeah, right they were planning Gay Pride dates and celebrations back in 1865.

R51, says everything about that asshole that he's more offended by holidays than living among the types of people who try to kill the governor because she had the audacity to try and protect such useless idiots from a virus.

We really do just have a country full of violent morons who get more offended over a holiday than pretty much any despicable, violent actions by white conservatives.

[quote] It’s great to have another holiday, and to memorialize the end of slavery, but why does it have to have that idiotic name?

Because that’s what the newly freed slaves in 1865 called it. What would you prefer - June 19 day? That sounds stupid.

And you wonder which dumb, gay cunts are MAGAts. Racist idiots who think a fucking day from 1865 was purposely chosen to ruin present-day gay pride. Jesus fucking Christ.

Are you even capable of feeling shame at all or does supporting Trump and the Republicans just automatically mean you don't possess the gene to feel shame?

R57, they're psychopaths. No, no shame.

The announcement and/or enforcement of the Emancipation Proclamation did not reach enslaved people at the same time. In different states the end of legal slavery was announced on different days. June 19th was the date in Texas, and has been celebrated for more than a hundred years. Celebrations were initially on different dates depending on the state, but always around the second -to-third week of June. Most white people are unfamiliar with it -especially those who do not have friends in, or close association with, the black community. I made it through college without knowing anything about it -but learned from black friends at work. There have been many efforts through the years to make it a national holiday -it's about time it happened!

I'm white and I've known about it most of my life. But I grew up in Texas where it's always been a prominent celebration. I think it's great that it's now getting more recognition.

It's after midnight so happy ....

Bloomsday

Fresh Veggies Day

International Day of Family Remittances

International Day of the African Child

Ladies Basketball Day

National Fudge Day

No Orange Clothes Day

Wish Fulfillment Day

World Sea Turtle Day

I want June Teeth Day.

Juneteenth is a fucking stupid name. Even if it has been around for a long time, it sounds illiterate. If people want things to be taken seriously on a national level they need to stop sounding illiterate. Woke? Juneteenth? King and Queen everything? Niggaz? Ho? WAP? Language shapes perception. Frederick Douglass is spinning in his fucking grave.

[quote] It sounds illiterate.

Yes, it sounds like Gibberish.

So this means everyone will have the day off? Columbus day isn’t really a day off anymore for a lot of people. Can we have a tranny day soon too? The Tranteeth? Or the Elleneth?

r63 please do not mention WAP in the same post as Juneteenth. So fucking offensive and you are totally, completely missing the point of leaving the name as it has been. The holiday is not about you or what you think sounds better. Just be glad you are about to get an extra day off. Find a black dick to suck on Saturday so we don't have to listen to your ignorant mouth.

Has Kamala given her approval to JuneTeenth?

R66, I'm sorry your reading comprehension abilities are so poor that you can't actually understand what I wrote let along counter it with any kind of actual arguments.

r68 you WISH I would waste my time arguing with you. What you wrote is complete bullshit and we'll just leave it at that.

Why do I think Trump will step into this and fuck it all up?

[quote] Calling a historical date idiotic because your small brain cannot wrap your mind around regional dialects that birthed it is the idiotic thing to me.

I didn’t call the date idiotic, you half-wit, I called the ultra-cringe babe for it idiotic. Regional dialects lol. My sister has lived in the south for thirty years, she has three kids, and NONE of them who ever use such a doofy-sounding term as “Juneteenth.”

Stupidest holiday name since “maundy Thursday.” Even stupider! 🤣🤣🤣

babe = name ^^^

R71? The name isn't recent.

Juneteenf

June teef

[quote]My sister has lived in the south for thirty years, she has three kids, and NONE of them who ever use such a doofy-sounding term as “Juneteenth.”

You are so lost if you think we care about what your bitch ass sister and her ugly ass kids have to say. Fuck you her and your mother for having all of you.

La Shana has Never Heard of June Teeth!

Hmmm... Well I heard of it the first Juneteenth I lived in DC.

If we can have Columbus Day, we can certainly have Juneteenth.

If we can have Columbus Day, we can certainly have Juneteenth.

We no longer can have Columbus Day, Thanksgiving, or any other holiday. They are oppressive.

Emotions are still running high after the Randolph Township's Board of Education’s voted to remove the names of all holidays on the school calendar.

The Italian American One Voice Coalition rallied Sunday against the decision to mark holidays as a "𝑫𝒂𝒚 𝑶𝒇𝒇” and not be specific about any holiday.

Randolph education officials met Thursday to discuss and ultimately vote on removing holiday names from the calendar.

It was a heated meeting, in which some showed their anger over a board vote in May that renamed Columbus Day to Indigenous People's Day. Members of the Italian American One Voice Coalition say it’s an insult to Italian Americans of New Jersey.

“That kind of takes away peoples’ nationalities to celebrate their heritage,” says Lisa Hubbard, of Dover. “So, I don’t think that’s a good idea.”

The group is demanding that the Board of Education reverse the decision to remove all named holidays from its calendar. It is threatening action against the school board, giving it 30 days to rescind both the Columbus Day and removal of holiday decisions.

Oh, R69, that's just so pathetic. Everyone on DL knows exactly what that old dodge means. You have nothing. And, no, Ebonics won't be making a comeback either. It's like women wanting a holiday to commemorate Susan B. Anthony and the Suffrage movement and asking for it to be called Titsday. Juneteenth will be taken as seriously by 95% of America as Kwanzaa is currently seen.

We need all the holidays we can to commemorate the progresses of the Civil War. Memorial Day, Juneteenth. Keep em coming.

I think this is great news.

I’m glad the holiday is getting recognized, but Emancipation Day sounds MUCH better than Juneteenth.

June Teeth is a new invention.

[quote] You are so lost if you think we care about what your bitch ass sister and her ugly ass kids have to say. Fuck you her and your mother for having all of you.

Fuck you too, welfare baby! You dropped your food stamps, LeShawn.

June teefs

[quote]living a shithole life in Michigan

I think Democrats should stop focusing on the Rust Belt because they do not want their votes. Datalounge is a reflection of the Democratic Party and people here, for the most part, do not like the Midwest, so they should just forego Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. Not campaign there, not pay any attention to anything there. Just focus on the South and Southwest—you’ll definitely lose a few cycles, probably this entire decade, but maybe in the 2030s things will turn around for Democrats and at least Democrats will be away from whites, white gays, blue collar, working-class people, completely, and you won’t need them anymore because you have Texas, Georgia, etc.

I live near the community center where Juneteenth is celebrated every year in my town so I've known about it for a long time, and it's been held here for over 30 years, with some pretty notable guest speakers. I'm glad it's been getting national attention and now federal recognition, it's about time. The first one was held in 1866!

[quote]so I've known about it for a long time 😉

My reply at r87 is worded terribly, it sounds like I think my town held the first Juneteenth and that's not true at all. We just have a local celebration.

[quote]We just have a local celebration

😉

Wow -Lots of racist comments in this thread! I wonder how many of the people arguing against the name of the holiday really would like to argue what the holiday stands for: the end of legal slavery in the US? In the last couple of years I was shocked to discover that there actually are people here who think ending slavery was a bad idea...

If you really think Juneteenth is a great holiday but a terrible name -Where are your rants about the un-spellable Hanukkah/Chaunuka? How come no one is saying Diwali sounds like the actress who played the daughter on The Mothers-In-Law? Oh. I guess there really is more to the hate than the name...

KWANZAA!

[quote]What national holidays do we have strictly for other races?

How about this, you idiot: We spend the next few hundred years enslaving you and then continue treating you like shit in every other way after you're "freed," all so you can have a fucking holiday?

R84, initially, I thought that poster was harsh, but now I agree with him. Fuck you, your sister and her kids. You're clearly a scumbag, racist family.

Quote: "What national holidays do we have strictly for other races?"

Are you fucking kidding with this? People like you are what is wrong with this world. You refuse to evolve with the rest of us so you hold everyone back.

Republicans love to see all this infighting. That’s why they supported this shit. You all fell right into their trap.

They should all just put on ignore. R96 is right. It has really ramped up more than usual in the last few days, at least it seems it has to me.

When blacks have a fit about Juneteenth coinciding with Pride with regards to marketing or anything like that, Republicans are just going to sit back and laugh and laugh and laugh, because they know how blacks feel about gays. They’ve got the popcorn ready.

The word Juneteenth has nothing to do with Ebonics or any of the other ridiculous stuff racists are saying. It's been called Juneteenth since at least 1903 but probably dates back to about 1890. Look stuff up sometimes, guys, it won't kill you to learn something.

R97, you do know R96 is an asshole who is playing both sides, right?

I actually put him on ignore. He already admitted he'd be voting Republican earlier in the thread. He's some Michigan shithead.

[quote]This hits right up against gay pride week.

[quote]And don't think that wasn't on purpose.

The first one was in 1866. Even after you were told this holiday dates to immediately after the Civil War, people were still saying it's a plot to ruin Pride Week. This is insane.

[quote]I actually put him on ignore. He already admitted he'd be voting Republican earlier in the thread.

The amount of lying just to brigade. Read my history.

R99, they pride themselves on their ignorance. Trump and the GOP made it OK to be as stupid, hateful and ignorant as humanly possible - and you can still become president. Just be a white racist moron when you do it.

R101, it was an excuse for the usual racist, white gays to attack black people - don't take that away from them!

I would like to take this opportunity to remind everyone that Juneteenth doesn't represent the anniversary of the end of slavery in America. While Texas was the last of the rebel states to free their slaves, the Emancipation Proclamation only applied to the states that rebelled. Delaware and Kentucky didn't rebel, and therefore were allowed to keep their slaves until the ratification of the Thirteenth Amendment on December 18th, 1865. Slaves held in tribal territories were not freed until new treaties were signed in 1866 - with the exception of the Cherokee Nation which abolished slavery in 1863, shortly after the Emancipation Proclamation.

Texas continued to fight in the Supreme Court over the right to hold slaves until 1874, which was when freed slaves in Texas finally received full legal status.

What will happen businesses combine Juneteenth with Pride?

It's not insanity, it's stupidity, r101. Dataloungers are, by and large, stupid. They don't want to know the truth and they don't want you to post about it. They willfully fall for any lie that gets posted that allows them to bitch and moan about the same eight to ten topics they're always bitching and moaning about.

The other day someone posted some fake screenshot of a TikTok video that didn't exist and more than one person told me that *I* was the stupid one for knowing it was fake, THEY were the smart ones for believing it without questioning. That is how stupid people on here are these days.

Don't tell people to look something up because they will fucking FF you into oblivion for even suggesting it. Don't bother their beautiful minds with FACTS, they have racist things to say and facts get in the way of that.

Now excuse me while I sit back and wait for the 4000 replies of "triggered" and "stated her boundaries" and other such witty and intelligent ripostes.

[quote]The amount of lying just to brigade. Read my history.

I took your advice and sorry, but they were right about you. You said you voted Republican because the candidate was anti woke, and you're only correct on a technicality because you said you "probably" wouldn't vote for that Repuglican again, but you DO vote Republican. You're on the AG Garland thread complaining about Democrats and Muslims. You're on here complaining about the woke and liberals. You're a right winger, stop denying it. You also don't know what brigading is.

R106, it's why a thread involving criminality or a homophobic slur by a non-white person, is like a dinnerbell was rung and it gives them an excuse to make it about every other person of that race or religion who had nothing to do with it.

[quote]You said you voted Republican because the candidate was anti woke,

I never said this. I love the lying. My history is there.

[quote]but you DO vote Republican

Muriel needs to do something about making things up to get people banned.

i have the person from Michigan on ignore, but let me say this to them: Your fucking state produces some of the most vile militia people. Violent, white supremacists and and you manage to separate them from other white people, yet you don't extend that courtesy to other people of a different race and religion and are on here bitching about "woke" nonsense like that has in any way truly affected your life. I've got news for you: The woke people aren't the ones who threaten you as a gay person. Your white militia brethren are the ones who wouldn't want you in their utopia.

You need to wise up and stop being so god damned provincial acting like a fucking holiday is a reason to vote Republican, but the attempt to kill your governor after the Republican clown made her a target is just "meh." All of the friggin, psychotic right-wing conspiracies are fine, but don't you dare be "woke" enough to believe that not every Mexican is a rapist or every Muslim a terrorist.

I'm pretty sure it's not the same person, but I'm reminded of that one DLer from Michigan who was [italic]infuriated[/italic] with Governor Whitmer around this time last year for limiting his ability to plant tulips.... in the name of freedom.

Then he started screaming at others about mask mandates and social distancing and got red-tagged, but has probably returned by now.

[quote]I'm pretty sure it's not the same person, but I'm reminded of that one DLer from Michigan who was infuriated with Governor Whitmer around this time last year for limiting his ability to plant tulips.... in the name of freedom.

Good God, the quintessential DLer!

I love the fanfic.

The federal government should have preempted this by making January 1st be Emancipation Day. That way we could satisfy people wanting a holiday for this, but not have an extra day for idle people getting paid for no work.

Juneteenth isn't widely known among whites - but it's always been a holiday for African Americans, particularly in the South.

I remember when we moved to the South when I was young - this is late 70's. First, Memorial Day was not acknowledged as that was a Yankee holiday. Everything was open - including school, post offices, etc.

Then Juneteenth was an unofficial holiday among the black communities. We had never heard of it, but we were white Yankees.

June 19th - Emancipation Day

Is that really hard?

For those arguing that it's been called that since 1865 so it's not illiterate sounding. Ninety nine percent of blacks in America in 1865 were illiterate. It is illiterate and sounds like it came about because they weren't sure what the actual date was. We have June and we have 19th in the real world. There is no such thing as a Juneteenth.

There was no such thing as Christmas, either, R117. until someone came along and named it.

When you have an original idea, we'll let you name it whatever you want. Until then... bless your heart!

YASSSSSSS, R111!!!

You just read that Michigan asshole for FILTH!

R118, it is June 19th. If people started calling Christmas Decemberith, I'd think they were fucking stupid and illiterate, too. Let them make up a new word for it that doesn't sound like something a not so bright toddler muttered.

Lord, but you really missed the point, R120. Juneteenth has ALWAYS been called Juneteenth. That's its given name. It is not a bastardization of some other name. "Decemberith" is a bastardization of something that already had a name. Just cuz you don't like a name doesn't mean it is invalid or wrong.

I don't know what part of the south you moved to, R116. In Texas, we have always had the day off for Memorial Day. I started first grade in 1971 and our school year always ended on the Thursday after Memorial Day. We would be off on Monday, come back on Tuesday and Wednesday to finish up any remaining class work. play games, and watch movies. Then we would usually have an early dismissal on Thursday.

For those of you bitching about the name, how about we let the African-American community call it whatever they want to call it? After all, it is a holiday and celebration created by them for them.

Prideteenth!

[quote] Juneteenth has ALWAYS been called Juneteenth.

And you think that makes the situation better?

[quote]Prideteenth!

Blacks will behead gays for that. 🤭

[quote]We have June and we have 19th in the real world. There is no such thing as a Juneteenth.

And we had Ben. And he had Jennifer. And they became Bennifer. It's called a portmanteau.

[quote] It's called a portmanteau.

It’s called trying to explain away vocal laziness after the fact. No one at the end of the Civil War said, “Instead of saying all the syllables for the date, let us create a portmanteau as a name for this special day.”

Frankly, r127, who really gives a fuck? If people want to celebrate a particular day and call it Juneteenth, why would I get upset about it? I've always thought it sounded kind of clever. I first read about it a gay black novel, maybe one of E. Lynn Harris' tales of life on the downlow.

R121 says Juneteenth has ALWAYS been called Juneteenth.

Not since 1990.

'I think the best joke about such holidays was one by Chris Rock talking about McCain/AZ being against the MLK holiday "You've got to be really racist to turn down a day off."'

So Chris Rock didn't know that everyone already had the day off? It was just a name change and they moved it from February to January?

We need federal holidays in March, April, and August

R130?

[quote]If you really think Juneteenth is a great holiday but a terrible name -Where are your rants about the un-spellable Hanukkah/Chaunuka? How come no one is saying Diwali sounds like the actress who played the daughter on The Mothers-In-Law? Oh. I guess there really is more to the hate than the name...

Hanukkah and Diwali aren't Federal Holidays. And even though everyone says Fourth of July...it's official name is Independence Day. Just like Juneteenth should officially be called Emancipation Day.

Holiday started in Galveston.

There's a lot racist elitist gay white assholes on this thread. One thing you can always depend on white gays to do, is to reveal their true selves on this thread.

Especially if it's anything to remotely do with race or ethnicity.

It's a whole different level of stupid to try and claim black people did this to interfere with gay pride knowing how old the holiday actually is and yet still being such an asshole that you can't even admit you were wrong.

Juneteenth has been around for more then a century. Gay pride has only been around for a half a century.

Juneteenth Wins, Bitches!

[quote]Please go educat yourselves

Okay.

[quote] It’s all about stickin’ to the gays.

By all means, embrace your victimhood more tightly.

Fool.

[quote] Juneteenth should officially be called Emancipation Day.

"Emancipation Day" was actually January 1, 1863, when Lincoln signed the Proclamation. (January 1 is already a Federal holiday).

We've chosen to observe and honor Juneteenth using its historical name, which is the best call. Maybe it will cause people to look up the name and learn about its significance. Using "Juneteenth" seems more meaningful. It ties the observance to specific human beings in history.

June Teeth is trivialising the language

[quote] so they should just forego Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania.

Oh, sure. Three states that helped put Joe Biden in the White House, and all three of which voted for Trump in 2016.

Am I the only person who hates the neologism "Juneteenth"?

It isn't a neologism, it's a baby-talk word coined for the illiterate.

It's a portmanteau, r143, and the whole fucking thread is about how the word is hated. And did you WW yourself? God.

R144, most people aren’t joyless cranks like you. Deal with it

R145, Sor-ry! And no, I didn't rate my own post. FYI, I can't seem to rate any!

Oh, and FYI, a portmanteau is a type of neologism.

You're welcome.

R86, Check a map. Pennsylvania is decidedly in the East. One of the original 13 colonies.

And furthermore, r145, at least 33 posts are in support of the term "Juneteenth." There is a sizable other contingent that comprises posts about other topics!

You Crackers are never fucking happy.

You just shit all over everything, don't you?

Gay white men are the most bitter assholes I have ever encountered.

Fucking freaks!

Not who you're talking to r147 but a neologism is a new blending of words, hence the "neo." It's specifically referring to words that have been created but are not yet become accepted within the language. Since "Juneteenth" has been in use since at least 1903 I don't think it can be properly called a neologism.

* "have not yet become," not "are not yet become" at r151

Well, it is to me, r151! Pb-b-b-b-t!

I think my real issue with "Juneteenth" as a word is that it could as easily mean June 13, June 14, June 15,...you get my drift. Nothing to refer exclusively to June 19th, the specific date to be commemorated.

Of course, the same might be said about Christmas and December 25th.

And as surprising as it might sound, I taught for many years to high schoolers a course in Black Literature, from slavery days to Sojourner Truth to the Harlem Renaissance to Nikki Giovanni, Eldridge Cleaver, Richard Wright, and the Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr. ("Letter From Birmingham Jail")---and never happened upon "Juneteenth."

Hmmmm. I suppose all my White Privilege blather just serves to prove that "Critical Race Theory" ought be taught in American public schools!

𝐉𝐮𝐧𝐞𝐭𝐞𝐞𝐧𝐭𝐡 𝐢𝐬𝐧'𝐭 𝐞𝐧𝐨𝐮𝐠𝐡.

Squad member, Rep. Cori Bush said on Wednesday night that black Americans now need reparations and 'liberation' after the House approved a bill making Juneteenth a federal holiday known as 'National Independence Day'.

President Biden is set to sign the bill at an event with Kamala Harris on Thursday afternoon after it passed through Congress, with 14 Republican members voting against and saying it conflicted with July 4.

'It’s Juneteenth AND reparations. It’s Juneteenth AND end police violence + the War on Drugs. It’s Juneteenth AND end housing + education apartheid. It’s Juneteenth AND teach the truth about white supremacy in our country,' she wrote in a tweet Wednesday night. 'Black liberation in its totality must be prioritized,' the Missouri Democrat encouraged.

Just imagine how it's going to be commercialized with companies and the media going overboard to prove their wokeness.

It doesn't work as a portmanteau because it can stand for anything from June 13th to June 19th. It's stupid.

Cori Bush is going to be sad to learn that that was it. The slate is now clean and everything is even. She should have thought it through before accepting the holiday.

[quote] a bill making Juneteenth a federal holiday known as 'National Independence Day'.

This name is lame.

Far better than June Teens, though.

[quote]What national holidays do we have strictly for other races?

In what way is Juneteenth "for" a specific race? It commemorates a historical event.

What is an "other race?" Other to whom?

[quote]In what way is Juneteenth "for" a specific race?

Is Juneteenth for everyone?

R153, I never heard of Juneteenth until very recently.

It’s woke gaslighting. “of course it’s always been a part of our history. But you’re too out of touch/ignorant/privileged/stupid to have heard of it”

Like Marsha P. Johnson, whose halo is nearly platinum now, thanks to the apocryphal (revisionist) polishing.

It is the Marsha P Johnson of holidays.

Frankly, it was a very minor historical event. Kind of a footnote. We should have had a Gettysburg Day, Antietam Day, or Appomattox Court House Day long before a Juneteenth.

Hip hip hooray!

I just did a search of the Dallas Morning News archive for the term "Juneteenth" and the earliest reference to it was in an August 5, 1898 article covering the state Democratic convention. It was mentioned (in a racist way) by a politician in a nominating speech.

Juneteenth (both the term and the celebration) may be new to most people. But here in Texas, it's been going on since 1866 and has been referred to as "Juneteenth" since at least the 1890s (and presumably well before then). It receives coverage in the local media every year. I remember seeing reports of it on the news as far back as can remember.

If you want to keep arguing that it's a made up holiday that didn't exist until recently, we can only assume you're a racist. Or a troll. Or a racist troll.

[quote] the earliest reference to it was in an August 5, [bold]1898[/bold]

Dayum. That’s some good detective work.

I didn’t even know the Dallas Morning News went back that far, much less articles still online.

I fear you’ve sent me down a rabbit hole now.

My public library has an online database that has the Dallas Morning News archive back to 1885.

It’s like sneering at people for not knowing about Lanin Hats. Or some other regional subculture thing.

Oh, you didn’t KNOW? Well, SOME of us grew up knowing. Pity you’re so SHELTERED and IGNORANT.

[quote]t’s like sneering at people for not knowing about Lanin Hats.

It's more like saying Lanin Hats aren't a real thing and that the term "Lanin Hats" didn't exist until you just wrote it in your comment.

R166, Your operative word is "Texas."

Juneteenth simply has never had the national recognition, not in schools or media, as the more recent Kwanzaa.

Cinco de Mayo means pretty much nothing in my Eastern PA location, either, other than beer-drinking.

And your point, R171? There are posters here implying two things:

1. Juneteenth is a made up holiday that didn't exist until just recently, apparently due to "wokeness".

2. "Juneteenth" is a made up word and shouldn't be used to refer to the holiday, regardless of the history of the word.

I'm just pointing out that the holiday is not a recent invention and that the word has a historical precedent. But when presented with evidence of those two things, either with documentary proof or personal first-hand experiences, the racists troll continue to reject that evidence and continue spewing their racist bile.

I am curious how many people bitching about the name Juneteenth are white. I bet the percentage is high. Since this is a holiday that is about black people being freed from SLAVERY, I say that we let black people name the holiday. They named it Juneteenth over 100 years ago. If they want to keep that name, it isn't up to us honkies to tell them different.

I'm not interested in having men tell me their opinions on abortion, and I am not interested in hearing from white people why they don't like the name Juneteenth.

[quote]I am curious how many people bitching about the name Juneteenth are white. I bet the percentage is high.

Just like the people bitching about Pride are probably black. That percentage—also high.

When do we get Stonewall Day?

Never. ^

I hope gays don’t fall into that stupid shit. I really hope gay people are above this garbage.

[quote]When do we get Stonewall Day?

Well if we have to wait as long as African-Americans did to finally get Juneteenth recognized, you can expect it in 2124.

Is this in effect for 2021?

It is not fair that blacks have another holiday, but we don't have one. When is gay pride going to be made a federal holiday?

I think we should start voting for holidays. I vote no.

[quote][R86], Check a map. Pennsylvania is decidedly in the East. One of the original 13 colonies.

Western Pennsylvania, ie the Mon Valley and Ohio River Valley, is decidedly part of the Rust Belt.

[quote]Far better than June Teens, though.

Wait, that wasn't what I voted for?

[quote][[R86]], Check a map. Pennsylvania is decidedly in the East. One of the original 13 colonies.

[quote]Western Pennsylvania, ie the Mon Valley and Ohio River Valley, is decidedly part of the Rust Belt.

Girls! Girls! Let's just agree most of PA is a shithole.

[quote] "Juneteenth" has been in use since at least 1903

Where is the evidence for your claim?

Google says this illiterate word was invented in 1980.

Any thought of reparations will soon run smack dab into Medicare's paying for the new Alzheimers medication.

R184, Shut the hell up and check a GD map.

The comment I refuted was that PA is in the Mid-West, not "the Rust Belt."

To be extra clear:

In observance of Juneteenth, I will be drinking Colt 45 and smoking Newports on my front porch all day.

[quote]Like Marsha P. Johnson, whose halo is nearly platinum now, thanks to the apocryphal (revisionist) polishing.

Marsha P. Johnson is almost a magical deity now, like Jesus Christ.

The Goddess— seen here at her best!

Festivus should be a federal holiday now. I already have my unadorned aluminum pole.

[quote]Google says this illiterate word was invented in 1980.

Moron R187, even that graph shows the term had some usage in the 1930s.

And Google Ngram searches and charts the appearance of a term in a specific body of books over a period of time. I can't possibly imagine why a term created and used by a marginalized and oppressed group wouldn't appear frequently in the written works of the time.

June Teats?

Joon Teef.

Soon we’ll be calling Christmas Day “CHRISSAY.”

And we will bow down— like our president bows down in R193.

Here's the Aug 5, 1898 reference of "Juneteenth" in the Dallas Morning News.

^ Is Mr Hall some cowboy?

I love it! The name is perfect. Why not a holiday to celebrate this?

An article about Ms Opal Lee who pushed for it. (sorry if she's been mentioned)

Yes, R202, we saw Miss Opal Lee at R193 when our president prostrated himself for her.

The first holiday named after a misspelling in some 1885 Texas newspaper. Bet the block printers ran out of N, I, and E blocks and June Nineteenth became Juneteenth and they were like, 'meh, who cares, not like it will matter after Saturday.

Uh oh. She must be a racist.

[quote]"Throughout history, Juneteenth has been known by many names: Jubilee Day, Freedom Day, Liberation Day, Emancipation Day, and today, a national holiday," said Vice President Harris

Literally any one of those would have been better. Black people should be insulted that the two words now most associated with their current movement, woke and Juneteenth, make them sound like celebrations of illiteracy.

Wait, so this holiday takes effect TODAY???

Do we all have today off?

WTF is going on?

I'm so confused.

You're confused, R205, but Kamala's ecstatic.

My husband just asked if my office was closed today for the holiday. No—are any private businesses closed for it? Announcing a federal holiday the night before it takes effect is an HR nightmare.

R203? Are you even familiar with her story? If you are and still have that snide reaction, then there's no guessing here: You're just an asshole.

Federal holidays don't apply to private workplaces. This is not an "HR Nightmare" unless you are the head of HR for the federal government.

Private workplaces give employees off for the big holidays like Christmas and 4th of July, but there's no law saying they must. Many workers have zero paid time off in the US to begin with.

Why in the hell is anyone even offended by this? Jesus Christ.

You think it's normal to be outraged by this and then have the nerve to bitch about cancel culture or not take seriously anything the Republicans are trying to do or what Trump did or what his scumbag supporters did?

This thread is the perfect example of why gay white men are hated and not embraced by everyone in society.

The racism the bigotry and the intentional ignorance of culture and historical American events.

So much for the bullshit stereotypes about the gays being well educated and culturally knowledgeable about history and "understanding" of actual oppressed and marginalized groups etc.

DL is the living embodiment of, it's best to remain silent then to open your mouth and remove all doubt of ignorance!

As I've stated before, gay white men are not marginalized or oppressed. They are still white and male, which make them just like any longer white man. Apart of the oppressor class and apart of the problem. Just because you like a dick up your ass and in your mouth and seaman blasted all over your body, does not make you a minority marginalized or oppressed. You are still white men and being white in this racist country Trumps everything else.

White men can also conceal their gayness, black people cannot conceal blackness etc. You can't have it both ways. If you're white, that automatically cancels everything else out abiut you in the eyes of other REAL minority marginalized groups.

Being a gay white man does not grant you entry. You are after all White! And there's a lot of power in whiteness in America. White men are not marginalized or oppressed, even if you are gay.

You are still a white man!

But honestly, is today considered a federal holiday?

Apparently, the Yahoo article at R205 said that today IS a holiday.

R211 is a loon.

Today is a federal holiday, with mail service both Friday and Saturday this year since canceling one of those at the last minute would cause disruption.

No he isn't, R213. He's right. The instinctive response of the presumably white males on here was that it was essentially some black plot to interfere with Pride. And rather than admit they were wrong when they found out it was something that preceded Pride by over a 100 friggin years, they look for other ways to be their racist selves.

Happy Marsha P Johnson Day!

[quote]As I've stated before, gay white men are not marginalized or oppressed.

Bull. Shit.

[quote]White men can also conceal their gayness,

Everybody always figures it out. What fucking universe do you live in?

R216, and yet so many of them so easily gravitate to the GOP

[quote] [R211] is a loon.

r211 is a cunt and a loon.

No, a cunt would be an idiot who thought the date was chosen to interfere with pride. You can't even admit that. That's why you're such fucking assholes.

[quote] R211 is a cunt and a loon.

Can we just combine that into a "cuntaloon?"

That would be “coon”, R221.

Or coont.

Yaaas.

Instead of passing employment and housing non-discrimination, we get this.

R224, get the fucking GOP to agree to anything beneficial to the American people. They're taking credit for the Covid Relief bill when not a fucking one of them backed it.

r221, back in the day, we would just say r211 is on the rag.

[quote]—Father's Day

Wut be dat??

White Man Day^.

To me, Juneteenth is White Racism Day.

The day that racists in Texas were forced by Union troops to FINALLY announce to enslaved Texas negroes that they were freed TWO YEARS AGO.

White Racism Day

The day Republican troops freed the last remaining slaves from their Democrat masters.

Ahh, the days when the Democrats were the racists before the big flip.

Lincoln would not recognize the party of Lincoln, today, because he would be a Democrat.

So would Eisenhower.

Will they flip back?

perfect day for a break in the summer,an event worthy of recognition

[quote]an event worthy of recognition

Marsha P Johnson Day?

"the blacks" really trigger you people, but good.

Good.

You seem triggered by the trigggered.

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Thanks again for the insights, Meghan.

You really got me.

What is really going to drive the white supremacists out of their minds about Juneteenth is it's one federal holiday they can't make all about them.

How long before we get national gay day?

Why do we want a stupid holiday? Can’t we be above this? It’s really not a good look.

"How long before we get national gay day"= no such thing as black homosexuals

[quote]How long before we get national gay day?

March 25. It will get coupled with Anita Bryant's birthday.

[quote] How long before we get national gay day

We'll have to wait in line Blacks now have 2 national holidays, so expect Hispanic, Asians, and other groups to start demanding one, as well.

[quote]What is really going to drive the white supremacists out of their minds about Juneteenth is it's one federal holiday they can't make all about them.

But it is about them.

Junteenth or as I call it, the day Texas racists had to be told to free their slaves by order of the army TWO YEARS after they were freed.

Juneteenth is White Racist Day! It IS all about them.

[quote]so expect Hispanic, Asians,

They don’t have time. They’re too busy working.

How many BBC chasing bottoms on the DL want this holiday to turn into them being bound, gagged and in a sling while taking multiple loads from BBCs?

[quote] You are still a white man!

Oh ok so people can still be hated and stigmatized based on the color of their skin? Roger that!

June Queef!

Marsha P Holiday!

One of the greatest things about having juneteenth become a federal holiday. Is that it will forever be in the consciousness of the American public every year in june. And for generations to come, people out of curiosity will Google what juneteenth is and what it was all about, and they'll end up falling down a rabbit hole of American history as it pertains to slavery.

This holiday is a great way to get an education and it will ensure, that what happened to black people in America through slavery will never be forgotten because there's a day to commiserate it's history. Not to mention all of the documentaries and specials that will air about it every year.

I'm pleased about this. This will educate Americans about the horrors and evils of America's original sin perpetuated against black Americans.

[quote]The day Republican troops freed the last remaining slaves from their Democrat masters.

I like how you wanted it really known what a stupid asshole you are by using "Democrat[sic] masters"

Are you guys even capable of being embarrassed when you use this tiresome argument? How fucking pathetic are you that you think the label "Republican" from those days in any way, shape or form resembles what a Republican is today? Oh, yes, the South is just chock-full of those "slave-freeing" Republicans.

Strom fucking Thurmond switched to Republican because he simply couldn't bare to be associated with those "Democrat masters"!

Stop complaining, it's another day off of work.

[quote] Is that it will forever be in the consciousness of the American public every year in june.

Only in an alternate universe. For Whites, non-black Hispanics, AAPI, etc., it will just another day in June, just like Jewish and Muslim holidays are ignored by people of other faiths.

I had to work R253.

First time I ever heard of Juneteenth was in 2015 when I was in Delancey Street in downtown LA.

The NYPL is already closed today to celebrate. That was quick.

[quote]This holiday is a great way to get an education

Good idea.

[quote] One of the greatest things about having juneteenth become a federal holiday. Is that it will forever be in the consciousness of the American public every year in june.

Oh, dear!

[quote]there's a day to commiserate it's history.

Oh, DEAR!

Bill Maher about the new federal holiday Juneteenth:

“Being the very newest of our holidays, white people, I must say, are very confused. Do we barbecue? Is there a mattress sale? What is the right time to start drinking? 2!”

Juneteenth shouldn't be a national holiday given that slavery continued. It would take another decade before Texas stopped fighting the federal government and gave African-Americans full rights, well full rights is debatable.

I want the next federal holiday to be election day and gay rights. Make Harvey Milk a federal holiday.

June 1-19 will now be the lead up and celebration of Juneteenth. Pride month will now be from June 20-30. Ten days is enough for you gays, anyway, right? I've literally seen more Juneteenth celebration ads and programming in the last week than anything gay-related in the first 20 days of the month.

They should have combined Emancipation Day and MLK's birthday into a January holiday like they did with President's Day. Although, I'm sure President's Day will be cancelled soon enough because, ya know, not enough wokeness representation.

Ah, yes. The days when the Federal government put some muscle behind its orders. Same with Little Rock.

Now? Interminable waiting to punish violent and murderous traitors!

Enslaved people, which are people who were free but became slaves, were just part of the total number of people who were slaves. There were also people born as slaves. When talking about slaves, people should include both enslaved people and people born as slaves.

I'm glad Juneteenth is now a national holiday. And recently the House passed making D.C. our 51st state. Now all they need to do is include Puerto Rico as the 52nd and Guam as the 53rd.

USVI as the 54th.

This is just going to turn into an annual excuse for the blacks to go on the rampage and vandalize etc, just like Cinco de Mayo is for the Mexicans.

Gentleman Callers Appreciation Day. My birthday is July 9.

Princess Diana holiday is long ovetdue.

Hopefully your stuff is the first vandalised r266

Juneteenth means nothing to me but I can't say that out loud. I never even heard of it until last year.

" I never even heard of it until last year."

You don't wonder what that says, r270?

You ingrates like r266 and r270 should be glad you have another day off from work to suck and take a dick after pride. Do your part and make it a black one.

r270, White racists kept the emancipation secret from Texas slaves for two years and from other whites for 136 years.

R270, That’s a reflection of your deep, entrenched ignorance

It's just seems a bit excessive to have another holiday.

What are they going to do when all the other groups now demand their own holiday, too?

In Europe, the entire month of August is a holiday. Stop with the capitalist talk, r275.

R273 The Vietnamese were bombed and slaughtered only 50 years ago.

Yet today the average Vietnamese American income was $82,400 in 2019.

Instead of wallowing in the past , they've moved on. That's intelligence.

Juneteenth celebrates the anniversary of the air show at Omaha, Nebraska on 19–21 July 1946, where the Navy Flight Exhibition Team was first introduced as the Blue Angels.

A day that will forever live in the heart of Americans.

Cinco de Mayo isn't for the Mexicans. It's an excuse for 600 pound Americans to drink sweetened alcoholic beverages and eat Taco Bell.

"Juneteenth" sounds illiterate. I think any other group of people would be embarrassed to have a holiday for them have a name that was such poor English.

This was something local to Texas, a state most other Americans despise. It doesn't make sense to have it as a national holiday. The date of the Emancipation Proclamation would've made a lot more sense.

It's about the white racism of not telling TX slaves they were freed two years earlier...

[quote]It's about the white racism of not telling TX slaves they were freed two years earlier...

It was an issue local to Texas, why should it be a national holiday? Celebrate the Emancipation Proclamation instead.

It's about NATIONAL white racism.

[quote]"Juneteenth" sounds illiterate. I think any other group of people would be embarrassed to have a holiday for them have a name that was such poor English.

The holiday is about black people, not about white man's English

[quote]Celebrate the Emancipation Proclamation instead.

Here's another factoid for those who apparently never met a black person in their life, or are ignorant in matters of black history. Black people already celebrate the Emancipation Proclamation by having "Night Watch" services on December 31, New Year's Eve. Today they are usually church services held to bring in the new year. If this did come in the form of a federal holiday in the United States, we would have two consecutive federal holidays.

Is anyone else sick of all this?

I'm totally sick of having yet another federal holiday observed during the height of the summer months.

I really don't need ANOTHER three day weekend, do you?

Hehe

r288 how about you go to work and the rest of us will have a holiday.

R265: Yes of course the USVI should be the 54th too. Just to keep the number of stars on the flag an even number.

I wonder how many of those who were freed would have gone to go back to Africa, if given the option.

Exactly, R292. Liberia seems to have failed.

"Go back to Africa". That is a reasonable comment, not racist at all. Their tiny pointed white snoods are on display just because they are receiving an additional three day weekend, between Memorial day and the fourth.

[quote]I wonder how many of those who were freed would have gone to go back to Africa, if given the option.

I'm glad they didn't, so their posterity could one day benefit from their suffering and free labor that built America. And check racist bitches on the internet.

That wasn’t what I said, R294. I really do wonder how many would have chose to go to Africa and how many would have thought it would be better to stay.

My parents are the children of immigrants and I always think that if it weren’t for the circumstances of the past, I would have never been born. The same applies to black Americans. If it weren’t for slavery, they would never have been born. Slavery was a terrible, atrocious, unthinkable thing for those were directly affected, but if it didn’t happen, black Americans would not be here now.

Chose = chosen

whatever, bitch.

Meanwhile it is a dream for many Africans to immigrate here. Strange considering the country is so racist.

Shouldn't they be warned to stay away?

No one, not even "the blacks" is interested in immigrating to the USSR.

[quote]Slavery was a terrible, atrocious, unthinkable thing for those were directly affected, but if it didn’t happen, black Americans would not be here now.

You do realize it was totally possible black people could have come to the US at some point without being slaves right? Like your grandparents did?

Like you really thought you said something there, didn't you?

[quote]I really do wonder how many would have chose to go to Africa and how many would have thought it would be better to stay.

You really have no clue what that trip was like for African slaves, do you?

r299, no, black immigrants to the U.S. do well for themselves.

[quote]I'm glad they didn't, so their posterity could one day benefit from their suffering and free labor that built America.

They didn't build shit in the Northeast, that was all micks and guineas.

Interestingly, African immigrants to the US hate African Americans. They say all the same things about them that racist white people say - they're lazy, violent, ignorant, no fathers to raise the kids, criminal etc. It's really shocking when you hear them go off on the subject.

Because they hate being lumped in with them, R304. And, there's no leg to stand on in the argument that African Americans have it worse because those black immigrants from everywhere are, in fact, lumped in with them and treated the same as them by the very same people that African Americans blame for keeping them down.

R172 most Mexicans, or people who are actually from Mexico both in the USA and Mexico, do not celebrate cinco de mayo. Mexican friends tell me how more Chicanos or Mexican-American gringos celebrate cinco de mayo than most Mexicans do, unless they are super close to the USA border. My Mexican friends from Acapulco and Mexico City do not celebrate cinco de mayo at all.