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This Is One Reason Switzerland Is The Best Country On Earth

An incredible 6 mile cable car trip from Zermatt to Klein Matterhorn (not THE Matterhorn).

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by Anonymousreply 106Last Monday at 3:08 PM

[quote]An incredible 6 mile cable car trip from Zermatt to Klein Matterhorn (not THE Matterhorn).

Of course it's not THE Matterhorn. That's in Disneyland.

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by Anonymousreply 106/10/2021

Incredible.

by Anonymousreply 206/10/2021

Thats where I ski. The first season I wasn't comfortable with the final passage over the huge chasm to arrive up to Klein Matterhorn. There is an age limit on that telepheric. Assholes foreign skiers often don't respect it. The kids look out, panic and vomit all over everyone's boots. One douche dad had a real hissy fit and was berating his kid for "ruining" their expensive holiday and how much it cost and blah blah blah and finally I told him to shut up, the kid shouldn't be be on the lift, and if he can't afford Zermatt go home and don't come back.

by Anonymousreply 306/10/2021

I rode that cable car in the fall of 2019, right before the pandemic hit. Zermatt is truly gorgeous (but I still prefer the Lauterbrunnen valley.)

by Anonymousreply 406/10/2021

Beautiful Switzerland the greatest country on the planet for too many reasons to list

by Anonymousreply 506/10/2021

Here's another reason. A beautiful drive from Saanen to Geneva Airport.

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by Anonymousreply 6Last Saturday at 11:51 AM

It's beauty is otherworldly. I was especially struck by how they treat their cows (their cows actually have a bill of rights) and how many old phone booths had been turned into book swaps. Switzerland is amazing. The only thing I don't like about it is that it's really expensive compared to the surrounding countries.

by Anonymousreply 7Last Saturday at 11:55 AM

Switzerland is beautiful and civilized because they know enough to keep the third worlders out.

by Anonymousreply 8Last Saturday at 11:55 AM

No thanks OP. That gondola would have me hyperventilating and panicked.

by Anonymousreply 9Last Saturday at 12:02 PM

I'm going to think twice before getting on one of these things again.

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by Anonymousreply 10Last Saturday at 12:06 PM

The thread title is 100% bullshit by the way. I've been to Switzerland several times, and while there is a lot of natural beauty, the postcard like scenes aren't in every fucking place. Also, the Swiss tend to be aloof at best, outright assholes at worst.

And to this day it remains the only place I've been where I paid $8 for a bottle of water and nearly $50 for a burger and fries.

by Anonymousreply 11Last Saturday at 12:10 PM

Yes, but if you live and work in Switzerland you can easily afford the prices and have plenty left over to travel the world.

by Anonymousreply 12Last Saturday at 12:21 PM

'Also, the Swiss tend to be aloof at best, outright assholes at worst. And to this day it remains the only place I've been where I paid $8 for a bottle of water and nearly $50 for a burger and fries.'

And that's how they keep undesirables out.

by Anonymousreply 13Last Saturday at 12:50 PM

[quote] And that's how they keep undesirables out.

This is really pretty true, actually.

by Anonymousreply 14Last Saturday at 12:51 PM

Switzerland is beautiful but it is boring as hell. No interesting history.

Plus they’re assholes to outsiders.

by Anonymousreply 15Last Saturday at 12:51 PM

You mean like the French?

by Anonymousreply 16Last Saturday at 12:52 PM

R15 like the USA has interesting history. LMAO

by Anonymousreply 17Last Saturday at 1:44 PM

Oh honey, R17, the US has a fascinating history. You just sound ignorant saying that.

by Anonymousreply 18Last Saturday at 1:48 PM

The US has the best history of any of the settler colonial nations, that's for sure. Canadian history sucks but Quebec's is way more interesting.

by Anonymousreply 19Last Saturday at 2:01 PM

R11 there’s no country in the world that is beautiful and picturesque everywhere, indeed they all have cities which are often not entirely beautiful; but in Switzerland one is almost always in close proximity to some area of natural beauty.

You are right that the title is bullshit. Switzerland is one of the most beautiful countries in the world visually but lacks an exciting city like London or Paris; a city with lots to do, but this is true of most countries and according to other dataloungers there are very few cities worth living in anyway. But having said that, once again Switzerland is in a great location with easy links to Paris and most of Central Europe is just a couple of hours away by train in any direction. If one lives in Geneva for example one can easily drive a few hours and reach the south of France for summer escapes or in another direction reach some wonderful ski resorts and Paris is reachable within 2 or so hours by train.

I’ve used this gondola before but I actually prefer it during ski season when the mountains are covered in snow, everything looks better in snow to me. I don’t find it scary at all, the cable car with people crowded onto it is a hairier experience particularly when it’s windy and the car shakes from side to side near the approach of the little Matterhorn but it won’t operate in very bad conditions so there’s never anything to worry about really.

by Anonymousreply 20Last Sunday at 12:09 AM

R10 you’ve got more chance of dying in a car crash

by Anonymousreply 21Last Sunday at 12:17 AM

R3 I’ve never witnessed anyone panicking like those kids you describe, lucky me I guess.

[quote] and if he can't afford Zermatt go home and don't come back.

Charming! I hate braggarts.

by Anonymousreply 22Last Sunday at 12:26 AM

I lived and worked in Fribourg for many years. Switzerland is a beautiful country. The people I found to be very private. If we went to a bar on a Friday night after work, it would always be the Brits, the French, the Spanish and the Italians that would chat away and gossip and have a good time. The Swiss would be, I hate to use this word, but they were aloof.

The country is spotless. The scenery is magnificent. The prices in the shops will make your eyes water. Unless you happen to be Oprah and you're shopping on the Bahnhoffstrasse in Zurich, for a handbag, when YOU'LL be told that you can't afford it!

The mountains are stunning. The lakes are beautiful to cross on paddle steamers. The cuisine is superb. If you get the chance to go, then go, but take plenty of cash and when you've got yourself your budget, save even more and double it, you'll need it.

I once went to the ATM to draw some cash to pay a bill. This was 10 years ago. I put my bank card in, my pin in, I pressed the button for 1,000 Swiss Francs. Sure enough, the machine gave me 1,000 Swiss Francs.....but in one note! That's an approximate $1,100 note!

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by Anonymousreply 23Last Sunday at 12:31 AM

Switzerland is oddly very provincial. It’s people very insular.

by Anonymousreply 24Last Sunday at 5:08 AM

R16, actually the French may be rude to some (never to me though and I’ve been there a few times), but the Swiss basically ignore you. It’s worse being ignored

by Anonymousreply 25Last Sunday at 5:09 AM

R25 that’s simply never been my experience. If both french and Swiss are rude to you, maybe you’re the problem in the equation.

by Anonymousreply 26Last Sunday at 5:12 AM

R26, the problem is I’m brown

by Anonymousreply 27Last Sunday at 5:18 AM

Switzerland is the wealthiest country in the world in terms of per capita financial security. Jealous, bitches?

by Anonymousreply 28Last Sunday at 7:25 AM

Not particularly R28. It's very pretty but seemed insular and the whole neutrality thing seems kind of pussy-ish to me.

by Anonymousreply 29Last Sunday at 7:27 AM

It was lovely living there, but I don't miss it.

Apart from Basel, everywhere was beautiful. You'd hop on the train or a bus and within a few minutes you were in stunning countryside. The snow capped mountains beckoning you. Rolling fertile hillsides with the clanking of the cow bells. The steep hillsides covered in vineyards.

by Anonymousreply 30Last Sunday at 7:30 AM

Switzerland's central location also makes it ideal in terms of visiting other European cities on weekends. For instance only 3 hours by train from Geneva to Paris. About the same to Milano.

by Anonymousreply 31Last Sunday at 7:57 AM

Personally I think the Tibetan Plateau is way more stunning, more to do, more interesting culture and history, and the people are very humble and gentle.

by Anonymousreply 32Last Sunday at 8:02 AM

Dog and cat slaughter are a thing there. Anyplace like that is a nasty shit hole.

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by Anonymousreply 33Last Sunday at 8:18 AM

Yeah the Tibetan Plateau, famous for its ski resorts.

by Anonymousreply 34Last Sunday at 8:28 AM

They sure loved stealing all that money in the war.

by Anonymousreply 35Last Sunday at 8:32 AM

Very homophobic place. No, thanks.

by Anonymousreply 36Last Sunday at 8:37 AM

R35 - not just that, but they were the money launderers for the world's crooks and criminals for all of the 20th century.

It is pretty - and boring as shit. Most Swiss have a stick up their ass. They only want people with money to immigrate.

by Anonymousreply 37Last Sunday at 8:44 AM

John McPhee wrote a wonderful book about how boring, peaceable, Switzerland is armed to the teeth, with explosives in the tunnels and the passes on the border to protect the country from invasion.

by Anonymousreply 38Last Sunday at 8:45 AM

[quote]They only want people with money to immigrate.

A wise choice. Nobody ever said the Swiss are stupid.

by Anonymousreply 39Last Sunday at 8:46 AM

Actually Switzerland has had a certain level of gay rights since 1942, ahead of its European neighbors. A recent referendum outlawed discrimination against gays and criminalized homophobia. Gay marriage is sure to pass in September's referendum.

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by Anonymousreply 40Last Sunday at 8:48 AM

Just out of curiosity because I don't want to immigrate but how hard is it to do so?

by Anonymousreply 41Last Sunday at 8:54 AM

Marry a Swiss gay.

To call Switzerland homophobic is laughable. Look at the statistics of discrimination (9) and attacks against gays (9) from this annual OSCE report. The lowest in Europe per capita.

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by Anonymousreply 42Last Sunday at 9:05 AM

What’s the matter horn, babEH?

by Anonymousreply 43Last Sunday at 9:05 AM

R38, it’s been said that Switzerland doesn’t HAVE an army. Switzerland IS an army.

The Kaiser went to watch the Swiss forces on maneuver and learned there were 500,000 men in their military. He was admiring their maneuvers and said to. The Swiss commander, “very impressive, but 500,000 men? What would you do if I invaded with a million men?”

“We would shoot twice” replied the Swiss commander.

The Swiss are a very tidy, peaceful people now, but most people don’t realize that Switzerland exists at all because, in the Middle Ages and Renaissance, Swiss infantry soldiers developed a method of fighting to defeat the mounted knights who then dominated warfare, and became a fearsome, nearly unstoppable force. That’s not completely forgotten in Switzerland today.

by Anonymousreply 44Last Sunday at 9:12 AM

r42 because there aren't that many Muslims. They refuse to allow large-scale immigration, unlike their neighbors.

by Anonymousreply 45Last Sunday at 9:12 AM

Where's swiss-chick?

by Anonymousreply 46Last Sunday at 9:17 AM

"their cows actually have a bill of rights"

Ours have one as well (we all share it), but they get really pissed off when you call them "cows".

by Anonymousreply 47Last Sunday at 9:17 AM

R45 and your point? The Swiss aren't homophobic, I would think.

by Anonymousreply 48Last Sunday at 9:23 AM

I’ve never known Switzerland to be homophobic. Certainly not on the scale of places like Russia or Poland.

by Anonymousreply 49Last Sunday at 9:24 AM

Or the USA.

by Anonymousreply 50Last Sunday at 9:27 AM

Most anti-GLBT attacks in Europe are from Muslims r48

by Anonymousreply 51Last Sunday at 9:27 AM

[quote] Just out of curiosity because I don't want to immigrate but how hard is it to do so?

Depends on many factors, but generally unless you have a skill that is in great demand (often a medical specialty) or marry a Swiss guy, it's nearly impossible to immigrate there legally if you're not an EU citizen. I've been looking into it for nearly two years, and haven't found a feasible pathway. You need a job offer from a Swiss company willing to sponsor you.

by Anonymousreply 52Last Sunday at 9:31 AM

University is another foot in. One can attend an American Uni there for a graduate degree, for instance, and make connections during that year. This happens a lot.

by Anonymousreply 53Last Sunday at 9:47 AM

America can learn a lot about Swiss gun culture.

Military personnel keep their guns at home during their military service.

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by Anonymousreply 54Last Sunday at 10:52 AM

[quote]Military personnel keep their guns at home during their military service.

Americans are too fucking insane for that. It would be a catastrophe.

by Anonymousreply 55Last Sunday at 10:56 AM

Most of them are kept dismantled. Occasionally, a soldier looses the plot and shoots someone up, but not very often.

It was weird getting the train to go shopping in Zurich and for the compartment to be full of soldiers going off to weekend camp with all their kit and rifles.

by Anonymousreply 56Last Sunday at 10:59 AM

[quote]Most of them are kept dismantled.

Americans would never do that.

by Anonymousreply 57Last Sunday at 11:16 AM

Immigrants are banned from owning guns in Switzerland.

by Anonymousreply 58Last Sunday at 11:35 AM

To use Jon Oliver's characterization of Belgium, which applies to Switzerland even more so (Belgium gave us more culture and history): a vile chocolate gulag with no objective reason to exist.

What "culture" exactly are they trying to preserve: yodeling? milk chocolate? cuckoo clocks?

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by Anonymousreply 59Last Sunday at 12:00 PM

Jon Oliver is a smug insufferable twat.

by Anonymousreply 60Last Sunday at 12:13 PM

[quote] a vile chocolate gulag with no objective reason to exist.

Chocolate itself is a reason to exist.

by Anonymousreply 61Last Sunday at 12:40 PM

Oliver is right about Belgium. I was there for a few days and wondered, What’s the point of this country?

by Anonymousreply 62Last Sunday at 12:50 PM

[quote] Oliver is right about Belgium. I was there for a few days and wondered, What’s the point of this country?

Chocolate, art, and architecture. Belgium is a beautiful country.

by Anonymousreply 63Last Sunday at 1:19 PM

Switzerland is rather xenophobic. Thank god they finally passed gay marriage 6 months ago. I say skip it and go to a more gay friendly country like Spain.

by Anonymousreply 64Last Sunday at 1:26 PM

My husband is Swiss, I'm a Spaniard, we're in the USA now but we're moving back to split our time between the two countries. Jealous, bitches?

by Anonymousreply 65Last Sunday at 1:30 PM

Zurich has great museums, an opera house and the Tonhalle. It's a great city.

by Anonymousreply 66Last Sunday at 1:33 PM

I love Belgium. The Coast is beautiful. The linguistic roulette wheel of driving the E40 out of Bruxelles/Brussel, we're in a Flemish area, now we're in a Wallonian district, now we're back in Flanders, when you drive along the motorway. Liege, becoming Luik, then returning to Liege, when you get in the French bit again.

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by Anonymousreply 67Last Sunday at 1:34 PM

2nd most unfriendly people in Europe (that honour goes to Austria). Beautiful landscape, but I could never live there long-term.

by Anonymousreply 68Last Sunday at 1:35 PM

What I love about Switzerland is that it seems populated entirely by Virgos.

by Anonymousreply 69Last Sunday at 1:38 PM

Anal retentive, controlling assholes R69?

by Anonymousreply 70Last Sunday at 1:39 PM

R68 You may have a point about Austrians. Vienna is one of the few cities that I won't bother going to again.

by Anonymousreply 71Last Sunday at 1:42 PM

Switzerland is hella expensive. Fortunately, their hostels are inexpensive and super clean and comfortable.

by Anonymousreply 72Last Sunday at 1:47 PM

[quote] 2nd most unfriendly people in Europe (that honour goes to Austria).

I can see that in Vienna to a certain degree (though I still adore that city and will return as much as possible); but, I found the people in the other places I've visited in Austria to be very warm and welcoming - especially in Innsbruck, but also Salzburg, Graz, etc.

by Anonymousreply 73Last Sunday at 1:49 PM

Not really r65

by Anonymousreply 74Last Sunday at 1:50 PM

I think it is easily the most disgusting place on this planet.

by Anonymousreply 75Last Sunday at 2:01 PM

[quote] I think it is easily the most disgusting place on this planet.

Why's that, R75? I've heard Switzerland called many things, but never disgusting.

by Anonymousreply 76Last Sunday at 2:05 PM

[quote]Switzerland is beautiful and civilized because they know enough to keep the third worlders out.

Have you paid attention at all to the behavior of American racist trash, you asshole?

by Anonymousreply 77Last Sunday at 2:07 PM

Yes, r77 I have. But that's not relevant to Switzerland.

by Anonymousreply 78Last Sunday at 2:14 PM

It is relevant in the sense that there's an attempt to make it only about certain people based on race/religion, rather than simply saying they don't allow any outsiders, R78.

It is so beyond idiotic considering that Switzerland is home to people of every background - who all happen to be very wealthy. That is *actually* what makes that country run. The ethnicity of the person is of no consequence if they have the money to afford it.

by Anonymousreply 79Last Sunday at 2:18 PM

They're not too keen on the green agenda either.

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by Anonymousreply 80Last Sunday at 2:34 PM

My Italian friend in Rome said if he ever moved anywhere else in Europe, he would not move to Switzerland. Yes, it's beautiful, but so is Italy. He finds the people uninviting, cold and distant.

by Anonymousreply 81Last Sunday at 2:47 PM

Going from Switzerland to Italy or vice versa is culture shock.

by Anonymousreply 82Last Sunday at 2:48 PM

I have worked with the Swiss and if fortune smiles upon me I will never do so again.

The most vile people I have ever been forced to deal with.

They can stick their mountain views up their milk-chocolately assholes.

by Anonymousreply 83Last Sunday at 3:08 PM

R83, details please.

by Anonymousreply 84Last Sunday at 3:29 PM

Without giving too much away, I worked for a prominent consulting firm in NY with Paris connections. We were contacted by a very highly regarded Swiss firm to find a consultant with ties to Parisian investors. During the course of this search two things became rapidly apparent:

The French hate the Swiss.

The Swiss hate the French right the fuck back.

Other things I learned the Swiss hate: Americans, New York, consultants, Parisians, the Swedish, the British, the Germans, the Italians, black people, Jewish people, Asian people, Indian people, etc., etc., etc.

They also hate treating the people they actually do hire like anything other than a pile of barely sentient dogshit.

After three months of them literally screaming at us on various 1 AM calls, my firm voided our contract and told them to piss up a lighting rod.

Maybe we just found a barrel of bad apples?

If so, our next Swiss client, another highly regarded firm, must have taken up offices at the very bottom of that fucking barrel, because they were even worse.

I will never work with a Swiss firm ever again. I hope they trip on their quaint quilted-apron strings, roll off their fucking glaciers and impale themselves on their yodeling horns.

Racist, snobbish, evil-tempered, greedy CUNTS.

by Anonymousreply 85Last Sunday at 3:39 PM

[quote] My Italian friend in Rome said if he ever moved anywhere else in Europe, he would not move to Switzerland. Yes, it's beautiful, but so is Italy. He finds the people uninviting, cold and distant.

Northern Italy is nearly the same scenery as in Alpine Switzerland, and the people are nicer.

by Anonymousreply 86Last Sunday at 3:49 PM

[quote] Jealous, bitches?

This will end in tears. Watch your man when he goes back to La Casa, those Swiss are known hussies.

by Anonymousreply 87Last Sunday at 3:52 PM

R85 - you forgot condescending and smug. And so anal-retentive, they make the Germans look like Italians.

I had a French friend go shopping in Lausanne. He parked slightly on a parking line. He came back from shopping and a Swiss citizen was sitting on his hood waiting for the police to come and give him a ticket.

I don't disagree with your assessment.

by Anonymousreply 88Last Sunday at 3:57 PM

I had a French-speaking Swiss acquaintance who would seize every possible opportunity to trash his German-speaking compatriots. I was a bit surprised at the beginning because I always thought of Swiss people as reserved and civilized. I later realized that this animosity is common from the FS citizens towards the GS ones because they are more rich.

Those who mentioned cows and impressed by how they are treated in Switzerland should visit India then.

by Anonymousreply 89Last Sunday at 4:02 PM

[quote]It is relevant in the sense that there's an attempt to make it only about certain people based on race/religion, rather than simply saying they don't allow any outsiders,

It is the Muslims who are the troublemakers. End of.

by Anonymousreply 90Last Sunday at 5:47 PM

Not only is Switzerland baffling having the four languages, French, German, Italian and Romance, but what surprised me was that in the German speaking part, the dialect in say Bern is different to Basel or Zurich or Schwyz etc, and some of them can hardly understand each other in conversation.

by Anonymousreply 91Last Sunday at 7:06 PM

^^ that's went they revert to high German. They all learn it in school.

Americans generally loathe living in Switzerland for long periods. There are many rules and Americans are usually loud and big self centered slobs. One has to adjust, to think of the welfare of one's neighbor as well. Its a communitarian mindset vs the American me first culture.

by Anonymousreply 92Last Sunday at 8:23 PM

R59 I’ll take chocolate, yodeling and cuckoo clocks over the crime and woke madness of the USA.

by Anonymousreply 93Last Sunday at 8:28 PM

[quote] My Italian friend in Rome said if he ever moved anywhere else in Europe, he would not move to Switzerland. Yes, it's beautiful, but so is Italy. He finds the people uninviting, cold and distant.

I’d rather cold distant people than some lecherous, smarmy, over familiar, sleazy guy (the type that approach you in some Italian cities) but that’s just me.

by Anonymousreply 94Last Sunday at 8:39 PM

The flip side to the rules is a kind of innocence and formal niceties I haven't experienced any where else. For instance for about a year I had to work very late in Geneva so by the time I drove home to Lausanne there were no parking spaces available. If I was really tired I'd say fuck it and park on the sidewalk. Those tickets were very expensive.

Sometime in the future after I'd stopped this practice I received a very formal letter from the Lausanne authorities thanking me and congratulating me for not having parked on the sidewalk for a year. My friends and I laughed like hell, couldn't believe the sweet tone of this letter., I still have it. It could not be more Swiss or more charming.

by Anonymousreply 95Last Sunday at 8:47 PM

[quote] There are many rules and Americans are usually loud and big self centered slobs.

This is so true. When I first visited Switzerland, I was shocked by what rule followers they all seemed to be. So many systems and structures there had me often thinking, "This would never work in America - everyone would be scamming the system." I found that in western Austria and southern Bavaria as well. It was refreshing, but very strange to me.

by Anonymousreply 96Last Monday at 7:21 AM

Are the Swiss still hoarding all the gold, jewelry, fine art and cash the Nazis stole during WWII?

by Anonymousreply 97Last Monday at 7:28 AM

There is a difference between "community-minded" and "carking autocratic busybodies" and the Swiss have no idea what it is.

If they could issue tickets for having water spots on your drinking glasses, they would.

They're so fucking anal retentive that the country used to be perfectly flat and only looks the way it does after the last thousand years of the Swiss sitting on it.

by Anonymousreply 98Last Monday at 7:44 AM

Most desired passport on the planet.

by Anonymousreply 99Last Monday at 8:06 AM

R95 That's sweet!

Don't get me started on washing my car on a Sunday though. I have receipts.

by Anonymousreply 100Last Monday at 8:29 AM

Knowing what we know about writer Patricia Highsmith, it's fitting she found Switzerland her new home when she left the US.

by Anonymousreply 101Last Monday at 8:38 AM

Why’s that [99], It’s only ranked no.7

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by Anonymousreply 102Last Monday at 8:45 AM

I have been to Zurich and Geneva, but never to the Italian-speaking part of Switzerland around Lugano.

Is that area much different and more laid back, or are they basically still rigid Swiss people who happen to speak Italian?

To other's points about access, it's only about an hour and change from Milan,

by Anonymousreply 103Last Monday at 9:04 AM

[quote] Is that area much different and more laid back, or are they basically still rigid Swiss people who happen to speak Italian?

It's more laid back that Zurich and Geneva. They're mountain folk. Still aloof and somewhat rigid, but more laid back for sure.

by Anonymousreply 104Last Monday at 9:06 AM

[Quote]Why’s that [99], It’s only ranked no.7

I said desired passport, not powerful passport whatever that means. Plus when the terrorists arrive the Swiss are always set free. Neutrality has great rewards.

by Anonymousreply 105Last Monday at 9:37 AM

R103 My experience of Ticino canton was that it was laid back. Lugano and Locano were pretty. Chiasso on the border wasn't. TSI TV is cool.

by Anonymousreply 106Last Monday at 3:08 PM
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