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Why weren't baths and gay clubs such as the Mineshaft not immediately closed after Aids started?

It might seem rather disturbing in light of all of the information of the contraction of Aids, but why didn't they close those places that lead to the spread of Aids?

And why didn't people grasp that this is a mostly sexually transmitted disease and that using condoms could prevent it? Surely, with knowledge of other STD's this could not have been so hard to figure out. When it started to affect primarily closed networks, who engage sexually with each other in a rather promiscous fashion, i. e. gays, it should have been easy to figure out the spread.

I am so sorry for all the deaths. If I were alive back then, I would have helped the sick.

by Anonymousreply 2306/09/2021

*It took them like 1986 to close them.

by Anonymousreply 106/08/2021

šŸŽµ We wanted to fuck, fuck, fuck 'til the mayor took the penis awa-a-a-y.

by Anonymousreply 206/08/2021

You mean you just lived through Covid and you're asking stupid fucking questions like this?

by Anonymousreply 306/08/2021

Because you could have safe sex even in at the baths and it's not like COVID where transmission is possible without any physical contact.

by Anonymousreply 406/08/2021

People didn't believe it was sexually transmitted. Some people thought it was caused by poppers. Others thought it was the drugs used to fight the opportunistic infections that destroyed the immune system.

And some people thought closing the baths and such was a way to control gay men's sexuality.

by Anonymousreply 506/08/2021

Beause Republican officials thought the more of us that got infected and died, the better for the country it would be.

by Anonymousreply 606/08/2021

I'm actually kind of scared to start having sex being a bottom and all. Yesterday I watched a documentary about Aids in Germany and there was one guy, who contracted Aids after a condom broke.

This is so scary. That could happen to me as well. Should I not start having sex when I am abroad??

by Anonymousreply 706/08/2021

R6 But why didn't the gays figure it out themselves? They could have all started using condoms?

by Anonymousreply 806/08/2021

Faux naif, spergy weirdo alert.

by Anonymousreply 906/08/2021

R7 Ever hear of Prep?

by Anonymousreply 1006/08/2021

Greed. The bathhouses were very profitable. As soon as the sexual transmission was known to be a real thing, many like myself stopped going. Others simply refused to let go of what had become their identity. There was a popular belief that closing the bathhouses was the beginning of the end of liberation. The bars would be next. I never understood that attitude. If a gay restaurant was serving tainted food, being closed down by the health department would not be a violation of my civil rights. People were dying and I knew a man with AIDS who deliberately had unprotected sex at the baths. He was bitter and didn't care who he took with him to the grave. I was disgusted with him and still have not forgiven him. He died quickly.

by Anonymousreply 1106/08/2021

R8, they did figure it out. Safer sex guidelines were created by the gay community, not any other agency.

by Anonymousreply 1206/08/2021

R11 That guy is so awful. All of the poor men he must have infected. And I am sure he was not the only reckless person. It's good that you are still here with us, eldergay daddy.

I cannot imagine going to a gay bath now. I just image waddling through pools of cum in all its various conditions.

R10 Yes, should I go on it?

by Anonymousreply 1306/08/2021

Wrong, R6, it was Republican officials & their ilk who led the campaign to shut these places down. It was gay activists who resisted.

by Anonymousreply 1406/08/2021

Is GermanGayGuy (R)Umpy? He's annoying in similar ways.

by Anonymousreply 1506/08/2021

FR13 If you're concerned about contracting AIDs, yes.

by Anonymousreply 1606/08/2021

R16 I will look into it.

by Anonymousreply 1706/08/2021

Is he stupid? Or a troll? Either way, tiresome.

by Anonymousreply 1806/08/2021

You need to understand it was considered a gay cancer and they were not sure how it was transmitted. Straight people could have unprotected sex and not get it.

by Anonymousreply 1906/08/2021

I forgot to write this story in my book, but after inventing Post-Its I took Jack-leen Onassis to The Mine Shaft and she decided right then and there, as I was shaking my touchie on top of the bar for free drinks, that she would abandon her efforts to save Grand Central Terminal and work to preserve the layers of nacreaous permacum at the club instead. Watch for my updated book!

by Anonymousreply 2006/08/2021

Lots of cities never closed their sex venues - like Amsterdam. People took care of themselves and the government provided education in the baths. I never liked the idea of forcing it all to shutdown - even if I understood it as an emergency response. It got caught up in the whole 80s zeitgeist of crushing and banning anything pro-sex.

by Anonymousreply 2106/08/2021

Terrible, R11. There were such about then. I knew a cute-enough short Polish guy, big dick, in Riverhead NY who had the virus. Still kept going to rest stops near the courthouse. Died, taking two he was sleeping with with him.

by Anonymousreply 2206/08/2021

R10 There was no such thing as Prep in the 80s or 90s.

by Anonymousreply 2306/09/2021
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