Why weren't baths and gay clubs such as the Mineshaft not immediately closed after Aids started?
It might seem rather disturbing in light of all of the information of the contraction of Aids, but why didn't they close those places that lead to the spread of Aids?
And why didn't people grasp that this is a mostly sexually transmitted disease and that using condoms could prevent it? Surely, with knowledge of other STD's this could not have been so hard to figure out. When it started to affect primarily closed networks, who engage sexually with each other in a rather promiscous fashion, i. e. gays, it should have been easy to figure out the spread.
I am so sorry for all the deaths. If I were alive back then, I would have helped the sick.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||06/09/2021|
*It took them like 1986 to close them.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||06/08/2021|
🎵 We wanted to fuck, fuck, fuck 'til the mayor took the penis awa-a-a-y.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||06/08/2021|
You mean you just lived through Covid and you're asking stupid fucking questions like this?
|by Anonymous||reply 3||06/08/2021|
Because you could have safe sex even in at the baths and it's not like COVID where transmission is possible without any physical contact.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||06/08/2021|
People didn't believe it was sexually transmitted. Some people thought it was caused by poppers. Others thought it was the drugs used to fight the opportunistic infections that destroyed the immune system.
And some people thought closing the baths and such was a way to control gay men's sexuality.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||06/08/2021|
Beause Republican officials thought the more of us that got infected and died, the better for the country it would be.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||06/08/2021|
I'm actually kind of scared to start having sex being a bottom and all. Yesterday I watched a documentary about Aids in Germany and there was one guy, who contracted Aids after a condom broke.
This is so scary. That could happen to me as well. Should I not start having sex when I am abroad??
|by Anonymous||reply 7||06/08/2021|
R6 But why didn't the gays figure it out themselves? They could have all started using condoms?
|by Anonymous||reply 8||06/08/2021|
Faux naif, spergy weirdo alert.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||06/08/2021|
Greed. The bathhouses were very profitable. As soon as the sexual transmission was known to be a real thing, many like myself stopped going. Others simply refused to let go of what had become their identity. There was a popular belief that closing the bathhouses was the beginning of the end of liberation. The bars would be next. I never understood that attitude. If a gay restaurant was serving tainted food, being closed down by the health department would not be a violation of my civil rights. People were dying and I knew a man with AIDS who deliberately had unprotected sex at the baths. He was bitter and didn't care who he took with him to the grave. I was disgusted with him and still have not forgiven him. He died quickly.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||06/08/2021|
R8, they did figure it out. Safer sex guidelines were created by the gay community, not any other agency.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||06/08/2021|
R11 That guy is so awful. All of the poor men he must have infected. And I am sure he was not the only reckless person. It's good that you are still here with us, eldergay daddy.
I cannot imagine going to a gay bath now. I just image waddling through pools of cum in all its various conditions.
R10 Yes, should I go on it?
|by Anonymous||reply 13||06/08/2021|
Wrong, R6, it was Republican officials & their ilk who led the campaign to shut these places down. It was gay activists who resisted.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||06/08/2021|
Is GermanGayGuy (R)Umpy? He's annoying in similar ways.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||06/08/2021|
FR13 If you're concerned about contracting AIDs, yes.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||06/08/2021|
Is he stupid? Or a troll? Either way, tiresome.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||06/08/2021|
You need to understand it was considered a gay cancer and they were not sure how it was transmitted. Straight people could have unprotected sex and not get it.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||06/08/2021|
I forgot to write this story in my book, but after inventing Post-Its I took Jack-leen Onassis to The Mine Shaft and she decided right then and there, as I was shaking my touchie on top of the bar for free drinks, that she would abandon her efforts to save Grand Central Terminal and work to preserve the layers of nacreaous permacum at the club instead. Watch for my updated book!
|by Anonymous||reply 20||06/08/2021|
Lots of cities never closed their sex venues - like Amsterdam. People took care of themselves and the government provided education in the baths. I never liked the idea of forcing it all to shutdown - even if I understood it as an emergency response. It got caught up in the whole 80s zeitgeist of crushing and banning anything pro-sex.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||06/08/2021|
Terrible, R11. There were such about then. I knew a cute-enough short Polish guy, big dick, in Riverhead NY who had the virus. Still kept going to rest stops near the courthouse. Died, taking two he was sleeping with with him.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||06/08/2021|
R10 There was no such thing as Prep in the 80s or 90s.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||06/09/2021|